pvp

[strange tide]

8/10, I'd be number 1.

[worn perch]

Use Fire Extinguisher on her

[keen silo]

2nd one is better

if you want to go for first one, use british torps on her (straight line)

[candid sluice]

Rainbow 610s suck even with blacktorp

[sour oasis]

When will this get made and will it be good.

[strange tide]

Weow, I have Arceus points.

[keen silo]

[uncut agate]

Hiryuu

[strange tide]

Hiryuu.
In the face of Mafia.

[uncut agate]

has EN viewership
bases his PvP experience on CN/JP PvP

[trail temple]

He wants EN to be more proactive, not reactive

[candid sluice]

Average quyet quote

[pure heart]

I’m still hunting lower ranked players, they’re easier prey

[flint python]

quyet still not revealed the secret of the while shell?

[dull hollow]

im sitll convinced that CN has a different engine for combat

well last i checked was also like 3 year ago

who know with the amount of time they update the game

if we merged now

[strange tide]

I could snag number 1 now if I go for all fights and get 15 on all of them.

Or I could just wait longer.

[pseudo copper]

Nah, he thinks EN as unworthy of his knowledge

Just teases us

[candid sluice]

doesnt even tell us what white shell does smh

[strange tide]

Yama META skill level from a PvP fight.

[cinder wolf]

[late heath]

CN/JP have PvP?

[strange tide]

Yes? Of course?

[late heath]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-dumb-you-dont-get-it-gif-8906259

[pseudo copper]

Hw 2 beat this, 2 high fp

[keen silo]

[candid sluice]

sorry bro lemme swap to my loli fleet real quick

[cinder wolf]

just refresh, dont risk it bro

[pseudo copper]

Thanks, ily

[keen silo]

16k fleet power pepesweat

shit is too hard

[strange tide]

Someone do their fights already!

[trail temple]

DM them

[pseudo copper]

Just ping em here

[trail temple]

They might not have discord or their discord name is not the same

[candid sluice]

send a friend request ingame and ask them to move

[trail temple]

Send an FR in game and say something like "Hi, you have any exercises left? lel"

[flint python]

just blackmail them

[trail temple]

Turns out my words have been used before

[untold crater]

Collusion

[keen silo]

[worn perch]

@strange tide thank for moving

[candid sluice]

Behold the new meta, manju enty

[untold crater]

If manjuu didn't auto kill, Enty would survive at 1 HP for like 24s assuming VG is dead

[keen silo]

[dull hollow]

jp basically doesnt have pvp

ded server

[untold crater]

I see JP getting 2610...

[cinder wolf]

yeah but that when unultra still playing jp

he's en player now

[forest vapor]

Does this fleet have a shot at hitting top 100 in PvP? I'm a post-Shimakaze player

[tough dirge]

depends

if you dont have to fight meta sure. so probably not

frontline seems okay but backline is very important

also i thought people tanked with anchorage

[strange tide]

[brisk atlas]

So says:
If your opponens score, !not rank!, is higher than yours by at least 35 points, you will receive more points for beating them. Whats the first opponents score in here?

[strange tide]

That's their rank. You don't know the score, you need to try and guess that they have a big difference from your own.

[brisk atlas]

right, thats where i got confused, but beating the first one still always gives more points?

[strange tide]

It doesn't, it always gives the minimum amount of points for the rank if they're higher rank than you. If they're lower, it'll actually give you less points.

[brisk atlas]

aight, think I got it now, thanks for the exposition

[candid sluice]

if your opponents are in top100 you can check their score on the leaderboards and compare it to yours to see if u will get a bonus

[cinder wolf]

pins are so outdated

[candid sluice]

lmao the tierlist from 2019 is still pinned

[strange tide]

+18
+18
+17

Oh fuck, tonight's maintenance night, I should go down to 0/10 before maintenance.

[strange tide]

I'm basically at an extra +11 on this reset right now.

Yeah, if I did all 6 fights I have left, I'd be at 760.

[cinder wolf]

another unultra in making

[forest vapor]

My backline is trying to do its best impression of a budget Mafia fleet. No Nagato or Shinano either, so IJN fleets are not really an option either (are Amagi/Hiryuu better than Warspite/Chise if I eventually do pick up Nagato?)

[tough dirge]

Why go old meta if you can go modern meta

[cinder wolf]

when your nj stands for no jersey

[forest vapor]

Tbh I'm waiting for a NJ rerun mostly for the skin

Though my cubes will somehow have to survive through Shinano + 3 more URs

• any other cute ships that might come out this year

[candid sluice]

You’re gonna have to wait till 2024

[light crystal]

I bet even the Aquilium will come out sooner

[trail temple]

Top 100 at any point of the season, sure, not difficult at all. Top 100 at the end of the season, more difficult but possible. Basically comes down to if your team can get wins quickly, if it can't you won't be able to get bonuses when you otherwise could

[untold crater]

There is maint today? Time for salty to overcap

[strange tide]

I won't fuck it up this time.

[trail temple]

I'll rush to 0 on Amagi if you do

[candid sluice]

However slow my internet is I will never drop to 0 on maint

My mom didn’t raise a wussyboy

[keen silo]

[trail temple]

He says as maint gets extended and thus loses 5 exercises only for Unultra to swoop in and claim 1st place on Amagi

[untold crater]

unultra will claim 1st regardless

[trail temple]

Yeah true, it's expected, unlike the supposed upset in avrora

[strange tide]

I'm at 8/10. I'd get 839 if I did all fights now.

Got like two +17s back to back.

[last swan]

Rip Latias top 1 dream

[strange tide]

What do you mean? I'd be 1st by 11 points.

I'm at 8/10, assuming I did all fights, I'd get another 120 points at least.

[late heath]

need to sandbag more

my score is about the same except that i'm only 9/10, wait i jsut dox my points

[candid sluice]

You wouldn’t be first if u did your tickets cus other ppl have better scores with more tickets

[late heath]

if you need more points, just send salty a message asking for collusion

[candid sluice]

Yeah I gotchu

[trail temple]

https://tenor.com/view/master-much-to-learn-you-still-have-gif-10612124

[strange tide]

I don't know if I should do this.

[harsh knot]

Changes topic lol

[strange tide]

I felt it was relevant here because hey, Anchorage is relevant.

[candid sluice]

Ah yes the old anchovy skill1 crisis

[keen silo]

dalao

[untold crater]

Wow people actually bought the lv1 crap?

Crazy what propaganda will do

[strange tide]

To be fair I learned about that from some guy who I was told was really well informed, in another server before I came here.

Said some guy started being incredibly stupider as time went on, and now doesn't want to play the game unless he can "do OpSi in 15 minutes", like most of what he says about AL is how much he wants to NOT play the game.

[untold crater]

EN

[strange tide]

He also loves to say that Drake is shit.

[late heath]

Drake is shit though

But good waifu

[untold crater]

For pvp? Yep for PvE? She's easily the worst DR

[late heath]

Cause Kurisu VA

[untold crater]

Well, idk, I also hate Kron

[candid sluice]

hes right on the drake part but not on the anchovy part

[cinder wolf]

but bro, more torps = more smoke equals good

[strange tide]

Do I do it or wait?

[candid sluice]

u are 5/10 already

[cinder wolf]

that server pvp even sadder than amagi

[strange tide]

Yes but I'm afraid I'll oversleep again (even though I don't really have anything to keep me up).

[strange tide]

I guess Sandy isn't what it used to be.

Or people just don't care about PvP in Sandy.

[candid sluice]

if u a wuss then go 0 out

[strange tide]

You know what's hilarious? If I did go 0 out, I'd be 1st.

Fuck it I'll wait.

[tall nimbus]

[cinder wolf]

yeah like everyone else here

[candid sluice]

you should try being 1st and the end of the season

that would be epic

[light crystal]

epic skill issue

[strange tide]

Listen, AotN is good enough for me.

[pseudo copper]

Always aim for as high up as you can go, that way the disappointment is greater

[candid sluice]

if you dont aim too high then you aim too low

good enough... isnt

[pseudo copper]

I aim towards beating Unultra but never will come close

[candid sluice]

we can never be on unultras level

[keen silo]

bruh

[light crystal]

accept the quyet standard, and dalao cn taktix

[pseudo copper]

I'll only do so once he spills the secrets of the white shell

[keen silo]

does unultra use the dalao cn tactics to win in amagi server?

[pseudo copper]

Dalaos try to copy Unultra

[sharp ferry]

whats a good vanguard for exercises? Currently using Azuma/Suzutsuki/Kazaguno. would it be better to use like Azuma/Sandy/Helena?

[candid sluice]

it would be better if u use anchorag shima luigi

[keen silo]

depends on fleet

but usually anchorage shima + something

[sharp ferry]

my fleet is Jorsie/UvH/FdG for backline to deal with all the carriers

[untold crater]

ancho shima juneau/duca works there

[candid sluice]

@strange tide WAKE UP

[pseudo copper]

@strange tide about to overcap?

[strange tide]

No I'm here.

[candid sluice]

did u overcap

[strange tide]

Nah. Literally 102 points away from number 1 and I can get at least 108.

[cinder wolf]

step it up, cant beat unultra with that pacing

[strange tide]

Also holy shit Souli's there.

[strange tide]

[cinder wolf]

not even unultra pace

[keen silo]

wtf you keep a sheet for this?

insane bro

[untold crater]

I thought everyone kept sheets?

[strange tide]

Nah this is a sheet that got posted here a while ago: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516951413411020819/699431632364372088/unknown.png

[cinder wolf]

gaming moment

[strange tide]

I'd be ahead by 11 points right now.

Granted, there are likely some people who are at similar ranks than mine, are at 5/10 as well, and have more.

But I'm pretty satisfied with the fact I'm 1 point ahead of the curve according to that sheet.

[keen silo]

[candid sluice]

pwo gamer

[strange tide]

Ahead of the curve.

[keen silo]

your starting pace was lowkey pretty slow so not really ahead

[strange tide]

I'm on reset 2 of Thursday, when it comes to fights, right now. I'm 1 point ahead.

My starting pace was slower, yeah, but I actually managed to get higher scores than some of the resets of the sheet at certain points.

[trail temple]

This isn't realistic. A 12 at 10/10 or 9/10 is most likely

But a +12 at 4/10?

[keen silo]

andy why u crushing his dreams

[trail temple]

I didn't crush his dreams, maths did

[keen silo]

[trail temple]

Even JP wouldn't be able to do that, and if they did, 2600 would probably be a crap score for that season

[keen silo]

also a 2600 season not realistic in servers other than avrora and lexington

[trail temple]

That sheet looks more like a 2590 when you take out the weird +11s

And start including +9s

[keen silo]

this tbh

i dont think its possible to get +12 at 4/10

unless ur pace is fucked before

[candid sluice]

who made that chart

[trail temple]

It was before my time pretty sure

[keen silo]

its in pins salty

[candid sluice]

lmao pins

why are they still there

[pseudo copper]

P much every pin is outdated or in this case wrong ig

[brazen socket]

Would shima like the black torp?

[latent birch]

reinstalling AL in phone now. i still prefer these old exercise ranking badges than the newer.

[candid sluice]

if u use teatorps with her

[brazen socket]

Is it still meta or recommended to use other torps with her

I only have 1 quint and its on duca

[candid sluice]

she works with either teatorps or mags

but if u use teatorps u gotta use blacktorp

[brazen socket]

Ahh

[candid sluice]

and if u use mags generally u wanna build her with hp

[late heath]

even better, Kashino with tea torp

[mental temple]

Is there any reward for pushing into certain rankings when the season ends, or is it purely for competition?

[untold crater]

Competition

Final reward for pvp is AoTN rank

Everything else is for fun

[oblique cobalt]

Yeah just competition & merit, which is mostly used for Purins if you need em'
can get like ~30k merit a season if perfect with all rewards

[trail temple]

It's also 100 merit per win while you are Admiral of the Navy

Instead of 90

[worn perch]

holding consistent +100

[trail temple]

If you are just doing PvP for merit, that's easily the best way to do it

[frosty sleet]

What is the current meta fleet and it's loadout for pvp?
Stop playing pvp long time ago, want to start again to collect merit for gold bullin

[cinder wolf]

new jersey variants

[candid sluice]

new jerjey + the three italian hoes

[worn perch]

nj ancho

[river marsh]

can't get higher than rear admiral per season

im working on maxing my ancho

dev 25 atm

[hardy bay]

[worn perch]

she bursted since dev20 for me, its your other ships

[untold crater]

Probably just gear issue

[river marsh]

probably

since i don't pay much attention to pvp

i just chill around the top 650-800 every season

[calm mica]

Wait, you don't get a +12 off the guy that has 2639 points?

[spiral trout]

how come some people have different music when u fight them in pvp?

[candid sluice]

there are a few aux gears that change the background music

[spiral trout]

wait what

what are they

[steel coral]

goldburn is probably the most common

[spiral trout]

how do i get it

[toxic sleet]

Can’t get it anymore, it was part of the SSSS collab

[spiral trout]

oh god thats painful

tysm

[cinder wolf]

dnt need the aux when you hv spotify

[light crystal]

Hey Manjuu chan, wanna raise some quick funds? Sell me more of those cool Aux skins, I'll pay up to 500~ gems a pop

Gotta peeveepee in style

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/584990482397134850/964083843806134313/Screenshot_20220413-040320_Azur_Lane.jpg

https://tenor.com/view/gascogne-azur-lane-chibi-dance-gif-19031028

[keen silo]

[trail temple]

Nah I don't have people like Unultra who don't take +9s even when fighting someone below him, and even then I have to go at like 2 minutes to reset if he moves

I won't even get Yukana'd, I'll just straight up overcap

[untold crater]

[keen silo]

[forest vapor]

Tfw my strategy to fight meta fleets is to reset until Richie manages to crit Shimakazes through Anchorage smokescreens

[dry socket]

tfw my strategy is hoping to hear "yo wa nagato" 15 seconds in

[light crystal]

As long as you're not a Helena enjoyer, you got my respect. To hell with counting the 60% proc, just don't count on it at all

[dry socket]

[pseudo copper]

It's not 60%, it's 0%

[light crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

[craggy comet]

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

[candid sluice]

imagine using helena

[light crystal]

imagine using aquila

[candid sluice]

dont need to

[candid sluice]

he doesnt know

[light crystal]

that he doesnt know

[keen silo]

just use weebs

[oblique cobalt]

& bulins

[cinder wolf]

just use whoever you like

[river marsh]

aquila good

she's carries me in pvp

[keen silo]

she carries @light crystal too

[light crystal]

one must have aquilium in their lives

[untold crater]

you guys use those Italian ships?

[river marsh]

yes

i have a pre-load italian fleet

with VV, aquila, and duca

[strange tide]

Oh, well I got distracted during these last 10 minutes and overcapped at 6/10.

There goes that curve I was ahead of.

God I'm actually really pissed off at myself for this.

[keen silo]

its early season can still make up for it

just bag harder

[strange tide]

Yeah well I fucked myself by trying to bag this one last fight before the reset.

[keen silo]

go faster then

[strange tide]

I swear to god I don't get why you people keep fucking laughing every time I get pissed off at shit like this.

And well, the begging didn't help. I was hoping to get another +11 since I was at 2 points behind the curve, but welp, I went from 2 points to now 12.

Fucking great.

Now unless I get +11/+12 every fight I'm permanently stuck behind the curve and with a ton of points missing.

[keen silo]

1137 isnt even a bad pace

[strange tide]

Hell, even if I got +11/+12 every fight, I'd still be 10 points behind what I'd REALLY be at.

[keen silo]

u are only 20 behind me

doxxed my own points

[strange tide]

And now that'll be forever eating away at me because I'll look at my points and go "I'd be at X+10 if I hadn't missed that one fight".

God I fucking hate this.

[keen silo]

U r at 2593 pace

[strange tide]

These four fuckers aren't going to fucking move either, I fucking bet.

[keen silo]

u can still get 2580 up

if u bag decently

2580 should be more than enough for top 10 eos in sandy

or at least top 15

[strange tide]

Yeah great.

God why do I fucking get distracted by shit at the worst times?

[keen silo]

pretty sure 2580 is already a good eos score for sandy standards

[strange tide]

Why didn't I just go 5/10 and do one last fight for +11 later even if it'd put me at 9/10?

Why am I so fucking stupid with shit like this?

[keen silo]

top 10 in sandy last season was 2573

shouldnt be hard to get that even with very light bagging and slow pace

[strange tide]

Well if I miss rank 1 because of this, I'll be incredibly pissed off because I was so fucking stupid.

Yup, these pieces of shit aren't moving.

Fucking fantastic.

[keen silo]

its the first 10 minutes of a 12 hour reset

[strange tide]

Oh look that 169 would be a good one to fight, JUST A SHAME THAT EVEN THE FUCKING TOP 100 ISN'T 35 POINTS AHEAD OF ME.

God I'm so fucking pissed off by this.

[pseudo copper]

It's normal that people don't move, don't rely on people unless you know they are gonna move

[river marsh]

my pvp fleet is getting better, i only need like 2-3 restarts to win pvp matches

there you go

rank 46

[latent birch]

see. what's stoopid about al pvp is it depends on your enemy's move. rng bless u get enemies that attack

[river marsh]

do you guys stack 10 attacks or use the 5 attacks once they reset?

[keen silo]

🛍️

[latent birch]

use it all

[river marsh]

so, use the attacks the moment they reset?

[keen silo]

yes do that please

we all need more movers in our life

[forest vapor]

From what I understand, it's technically more optimal to wait until other people attack first, but that doesn't work if everyone does the same thing

[keen silo]

just bag harder

[river marsh]

can you guys stop attacking me in pvp

im dropping ranks so fast

[latent birch]

theyre not attaacking you. they jsut gain points from attacking everyone else

[forest vapor]

Personally seeing if I can hit top 50/fleet admiral this season

[river marsh]

i can hit rank 30 but can't maintain it for more than an hour

[forest vapor]

Don't think I have the fleet to actually go for AoTN

[keen silo]

why are y’all rushing before 2200 points?

[strange tide]

You don't lose rank by being attacked, ranks are determined by points only.

[keen silo]

you do aotn is ridiculously easy just attack the weakest fleet and rush when you can

ez aotn

[river marsh]

so you don't lose points in pvp?

[strange tide]

No.

[river marsh]

oh

[forest vapor]

That doesn't always work when every fleet has an NJ/Anchorage in it

[keen silo]

u can beat that

u have 20% dmg reduction its ez

[forest vapor]

It takes like 5 resets

[river marsh]

honestly, i have an easier time dealing with nj/ancho fleets every since using a pre-load italy fleet

[keen silo]

build a better fleet

[forest vapor]

Richy/Warkai/Chise is the best I have

[keen silo]

Looks ok

that should be enough if your gear isnt bad

[forest vapor]

Usually have problems with not being able to kill Vanguard before NJ gets hits in

Especially vs Anchorage and Shima

[keen silo]

what is your vanguard

[forest vapor]

Juneau, Yuki, Anchorage

[keen silo]

looks fine

[forest vapor]

Hmm

[keen silo]

its your gear then

[forest vapor]

I can win most fights it just takes a bunch of resets

[river marsh]

juneau abuser

[forest vapor]

I tried azuma before shimas just 1shot her

[river marsh]

i don't use tanky ships in pvp anymore

i use ships with high eva

like poi and shima

and noshiro

noshiro is good cuz she reduces torp dmg that your vanguard receives

[keen silo]

u dont use ancho?

[forest vapor]

Don't have anything Shima and before :(

[keen silo]

I already see errors

using pve gear

and no manjuu on juneau main

[river marsh]

dev 25 ancho

im still working on maxing

[keen silo]

bruh shes good at dev 25

cuz she gets all tank stats

[river marsh]

also she's only lvl 100

[keen silo]

ah

[river marsh]

i haven't leveled her up yet

[keen silo]

Juneau shima duca would work then

[forest vapor]

Pve gear?

[river marsh]

gear you use in sorties

[keen silo]

double shell on richy is pve

gears

same as rocket plane and double cata

[forest vapor]

Oh really, what changes in pvp?

[keen silo]

u need more speed to dodge stuff

also u need survivability

[forest vapor]

So what, like Gyroscope/engines,

[keen silo]

yea

and other stuff like treaty on richelieu

[forest vapor]

Oh okie

[keen silo]

maybe

idk

[forest vapor]

Thanks

[strange tide]

The road to recovery begins.

11 points below the curve.

Well still 12 since I'm supposed to get a +11 on the first fight of the reset.

And I'm supposed to get two +11s on the Saturday reset so technically 14 points behind.

God I fucking hate myself.

[river marsh]

i legit have no idea what you're talking about

but i hope you're doing ok

👍

[latent birch]

glad im done having to be a tryhard in pvp

[strange tide]

Yeah I don't really expect myself to do this again after getting AotN this season.

[latent birch]

being top doesnt give real reward

[strange tide]

Or at least try to sandbag this hard.

Honestly I just want to get AotN since I've been playing for 4 years and I was stuck with Captain as my highest rank forever.

[latent birch]

[trail temple]

oof

[strange tide]

Yeah, I only got Rear Admiral Lower Half like a couple of months ago thanks to a very lucky PvP streak during one season.

Other than that I just stuck with Captain and only did the fights I could 100% win with that old fleet I had.

Meaning I didn't really get many points.

[untold crater]

[trail temple]

Reminds me of a guy who used to play on Avrora, he never got AotN because he kept overcapping. As soon as he got AotN, he quit

[river marsh]

highest i ever got was top 20

[strange tide]

I mean I overcapped but not like by mistake, I just never cared about doing PvP.

[river marsh]

what is overcapping?

[trail temple]

top 20 at the end of the season or top 20 sometime during the season?

[untold crater]

We laugh because this shit happens so often to us that overcapping is just a whatever thing

[river marsh]

what's eos

oh

end of season

nah, it was during the season

[trail temple]

Yeah soz, pardon the jargon

[strange tide]

Not doing fights and going below 5/10, so when the fights refresh you go over 10 and cap at 10/10.

[river marsh]

ahh

so losing potential attacks

cuz you're at capped

[strange tide]

Yup.

[trail temple]

[latent birch]

in a nutshell, never attacc unless your enemy attacc. that's how u win pvp. and also, rng giving u enemy that attacc

[untold crater]

What RNG? I know ppl that just ask ppl to pvp

[strange tide]

And don't get distracted and overcap at 6/10 like the idiot that I am.

[untold crater]

What's your goal? If it's just AoTN it doesn't matter if you overcapped by 1

[strange tide]

I know, but it fucking BOTHERS me that I missed that one fight and just lost 10 points like that.

[untold crater]

It's not exactly 10 points tho

[trail temple]

One of the guys overcapped by 3 and still took out 1st place at the end of the season, in fact that was both 1 and 2

[untold crater]

Now your score is lower, which means you can get more bonuses

[strange tide]

Somehow I doubt it.

But let's see.

[untold crater]

What server was this?

[trail temple]

He's not wrong though, the higher you go the less bonuses you get

[trail temple]

Only the sweatiest

[untold crater]

I've gotten 2579 pts with 5 missed exercises, do you think I would have gotten 2629 pts?

[strange tide]

Honestly if we look at last season's, who knows.

[untold crater]

This is just mathematically logical.

[strange tide]

Definitely above 2600.

[trail temple]

No way

[untold crater]

Delusional

[trail temple]

[untold crater]

Especially back then

[trail temple]

Over 2600 in EN, only Avrora gets that

[untold crater]

I would say I would maybe get 2585

[strange tide]

I see.

[untold crater]

I think you missing 1 exer will end up you finishing maybe 1-2 pts lower at most

Especially since we're not even halfway through the season

[strange tide]

Well if I get enough bonuses I can get back on the curve, but then I'll have the "I could be 10 points ahead of the curve" thought in the back of my mind at all times.

[untold crater]

Do this

[zealous wasp]

curve?

[trail temple]

It's the wrong mentality to have

[untold crater]

Each time you get a bonus that is less than 45 points more than you

[strange tide]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516951413411020819/699431632364372088/unknown.png This shit in the pins, I'm using it as a reference. Apparently it's shit, but fuck it it's all I have.

[untold crater]

Take a point off those "10 points ahead"

[keen silo]

2600 is impossible

[trail temple]

Especially for Sandy

[keen silo]

only in avrora and lexington maybe

lexi has to have every tryhard playing

[trail temple]

Amagi got close

[keen silo]

at eos

if not not possible

[trail temple]

Washington's hit it

Don't recall Sandy ever though

[untold crater]

What

[trail temple]

More to the point, it's not recorded

[untold crater]

PhoenixF is sandy, no?

[latent birch]

highest i got. and this is so old.

[river marsh]

boomer

[untold crater]

I'm 99% sure PhoenixF has gotten 2600, correct me if I'm wrong

[latent birch]

coomer

[untold crater]

There wasn't even Admiral of the Navy rank back then?

[latent birch]

its called Fleet Admiral

[untold crater]

Yeah

That's the 2nd highest rank now

[strange tide]

Fleet Admiral is th- Yeah.

[keen silo]

dam that was old meta

day 1 meta

[untold crater]

Wait wtf

"next rank: admiral of the navy, rank 0"

[strange tide]

Just go beyond the beyond.

[untold crater]

Only AI (easy) can get AoTN

[trail temple]

Going through the history, I'll let you kow

[untold crater]

Or just ask him

[trail temple]

Done that already

He hasn't replied so I'll just do this in the meantime

[untold crater]

hmm yea lmk

[trail temple]

Highest I saw was 2595

[keen silo]

lexi 2.6k this week

trust

[untold crater]

Even that idk

I know I saw PhoenixF get 2598

I might just be schizophrenic tho

[trail temple]

He hasn't done 2600 since Amagi's been around

[cinder wolf]

[candid sluice]

Dying servers smh

[trail temple]

EN needs to stop losing

[candid sluice]

Server wide skill issue

[light crystal]

Server wide AQL issue

[candid sluice]

self awareness issue

[strange tide]

Hey look if I hadn't missed that one fight, I'd only be 4 points away from number 1 if I did all 5 fights now.

Also god damn no one moved in the seven hours I was gone for.

[blazing crescent]

Is there a hard counter to Italian fleet other than your own Italian fleet?

I spent all my resets and now I'm stuck at 6/10 against a meta defense fleet

And I kind of don't want to use Italian out of principle

This is my fleet without optimized pvp gear

even after 3 retries I couldn't beat the enemy pasta fleet that has Juneau Anchor and NJ

[mental temple]

Would Kron - Kiev - Ibuki or Kron - Kitakaze - Ibuki be a better fit for general PVP?

[worn perch]

Ibukii used to be little relevant long time ago, not anymore and none of those seem to have pvp perk

[dry socket]

between kiev and kita

probably kita

torpedoes might be slightly more useful

but neither of them are really good in pvp

[mental temple]

Ah, they're just the best I have. Other options just include Neptune lol

[empty sinew]

no hard counter but you're in luck since the one you're fighting isn't using Shima so just switch your Noshiro (little value since no enemy Shima) for Juneau and reset ftw

and since you're using 3BB, make sure one of them at least has HE (Ulrich in ur case) for the vanguards and put FdG opposite of opponents Aquila to reveal

also naval treaty on flag since you don't want to die early to their frontloaded damage

[blazing crescent]

Thanks for the detailed recommendations.

Also I was distracted since I asked and now I missed the reset time

[blazing crescent]

I'm no pvp expert but if your options are limited I think Neptune isn't half bad. Because she heals for such a big ammount and CLs were buffed some time ago for pvp iirc

[north sentinel]

This fleet is a direct counter to mafia, you can replace agir for shima or vice versa. its very reliable.

[steel coral]

Triple BB

[river marsh]

1232 points rn

gonna hit rear admiral next reset

[vagrant rapids]

this guy is based

[river marsh]

i feel personally attacked

[tall nimbus]

more like skill issue

[river marsh]

[vagrant rapids]

I mean it did make me laugh

[blazing crescent]

Thanks I'll try that out 👍

I wouldn't have expected Ägir to be good in pvp since she's so fat slow.

[cinder wolf]

mafia hard counter finally

[candid sluice]

[last swan]

[keen silo]

[silent yew]

is black dildo better than rainbow dildo for pvp?

[cinder wolf]

in most case, yeah

[silent yew]

on duca. if that changes anything

aight

shouldn't need more than 2 . right?

[cinder wolf]

get at least 3

[silent yew]

for who?

[cinder wolf]

whoever torpers you use

[silent yew]

all vg uses it?

oh u talking in case i'm using 3 torpers in vg. smh

hope i get the last 6 prints quickly

[silent yew]

also. is anchy considered a torper? 👀

i'm starting to level to use her later. i know she's a good tank but idk about ehr dmh

[cinder wolf]

she has torps but not for dealing dmg

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/6pPpVfW-LxBt0ll6ODNThGeyN59W7AuzwEQurgI3fIg/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/697475157739962509/902144573256663110/nj_get_real_.gif

the idea of using black torps

[silent yew]

YEET'd

[keen silo]

her torps are for smoke timing

[brazen socket]

Would you guys 125 juneau or is 120 enough

[worn perch]

125

Too many ships that smoke her too early these days

[brazen socket]

Man

[worn perch]

120 is ok

Ig 5 lv makes not much difference

[keen silo]

it doesnt matter

just reset more

[brazen socket]

Reset issue
Difference in reset

[candid sluice]

125 her

She melts against other 125s if only 120

[untold crater]

Difference in Juneau

[north sentinel]

juneau issue

[late heath]

125 200

married the goddess

[keen silo]

[steel coral]

mine's at 120/50

[river marsh]

reset in 32 mins

[pseudo copper]

Same here

Stranger 120 Juneau is way to go

[keen silo]

imagine not oathing juneau

125/200 gang

[hardy bay]

🚮

[gray beacon]

[grave pebble]

Don't even using juneau

Why is she even good in the first place? I never understood

[pseudo copper]

She dies so others can live

[grave pebble]

Wdym?

[grave pebble]

And stop bullying her if it's like that

[pseudo copper]

She's dying for our sins so it's fine

[winged depot]

she heals your fleet by 25% hp if she sinks

[grave pebble]

Hahahahahahah

[grave pebble]

WOAH

The whole fleet?

[winged depot]

or idk the real number really, she's just annoying to fight

yes

[grave pebble]

Or only vanguard

Oh ok

[pseudo copper]

She also has high AA meaning she can reduce preload crash damage before dying

[keen silo]

atlanta class

[river marsh]

watch him become a juneau abuser tomorrow

i hate that heal so much

[fleet laurel]

any guide how to get higher pvp point? when should i use the exercise tickets?

[trail temple]

Yeah, I believe Azur Lane Meta provided a video or two about it

Other than that, don't know of other resources

[keen silo]

ALM did indeed do a few vids on it

[candid sluice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kd-isT5Jac older video but tells u about the basics

[trim kettle]

Would it be worth to put pearl tears on her?

[strange tide]

Yes.

That's actually her most used Aux.

[keen silo]

[untold crater]

Not always

35% immediate heal can cause quite a bit of it to be wasted

[candid sluice]

spread out your heals

[cinder wolf]

but

big numbers

[keen silo]

bigger is better

[candid sluice]

big number good

[late heath]

Kashino give most milk

Higher # = good

Run Kashino

[sour oasis]

Just don't lose. If you use all 15 tickets a day and don't lose, you will have a high number.
To get higher, you will have to:
[1]fight only higher ranked opponents (the left-most is usually almost guaranteed to be higher)
[2]space out when you play (check every 2 hours)
[3]refresh your list of 4; sometimes you want to find an even higher ranked player
[x]ask people on your list to move ahead of you

[untold crater]

[?] Use Kashino

[steel coral]

all I'm saying is I never lost once with ranger/kashino/mutsuki

[worn perch]

[ripe sundial]

PR1 Flex

[untold crater]

Akashit my favorite PR1 ship

[cinder wolf]

damn someone actually finished pr1 already, thats so fast

[forest vapor]

I'm only halfway done PR1

Mostly focusing on PR2 after grabbing Anchorage and Odin

[cinder wolf]

[keen silo]

[strange tide]

Gee, if I hadn't missed that one fight, I'd have enough points to get to 1st if I did all my current fights.

[thin quartz]

does beating more powerful enemies give more points than weaker ones?

[strange tide]

Not necessarily.

It depends on your and your opponent's rank, or particularly your points.

If your opponent has at least 35 points more than you do, beating them will give you more than the average.

You can't see someone else's points, you have to simply guess they have enough of a difference based on their rank compared to yours.

[thin quartz]

kk thx

[trail temple]

It's only 35 when you're above Captain rank or 1050 rank score, it's less at lower ranks

[strange tide]

Well, that does explain why you can get like... +35 on the first day of a season.

[last swan]

What if I use 3 DD nuke in pvp

[light crystal]

Nice NJ Manjuu bro.

[forest vapor]

Bruh I just spent 15 mins trying to beat a juneau/shima/duca Mafia fleet

Duca would just never die

Finally won because Corgi clutched and dodged a NJ salvo

And beat down Duca with secondaries

[worn perch]

Yeah Duca sometime outlast even Anchor

[river marsh]

duca in pvp good?

[worn perch]

Sth sth noshiro vibe

[strange tide]

Someone's actually using Main DDGs.

[royal beacon]

Preload

And die

[light crystal]

She was reasonably tankey from what I saw, could tank one AQL preload and Stealth still, and has alot of Damage Reduction bonuses stacks for PvP on top. DPS was pretty meh tho, so point in tanking if ur wasting a backline spot and not do anything else, like DPS or support for the team

[worn perch]

She snipe shimakaze or pop juneau

[untold crater]

Seen quite a few DDGs outlive NJs

[strange tide]

I hate being 15 points behind the curve instead of 5 because I fucked up.

[coral wren]

Does this fleet look too easy to defeat?

[river marsh]

oh shit

vice admiral rank

tryharding pvp rn

[coral wren]

if my yukikaze-noshiro-yuudachi vanguard got destroyed by bush-jupiter-hobby,it would be NS Mura 2-1 Tottenham Moment.

[stable dawn]

[trail temple]

That is easy, unless RNGer goes off

[untold crater]

Or Casablanca tbh

She also has QT iirc

[coral wren]

Wait so the vanguards are bad?

[untold crater]

Yes

There is no world your VG should lose to that

Maybe if you have unequipped and underleveled vg

[coral wren]

Noshiro:lv 105
Yukikaze:lv 124
Yuudachi:lv 125
vs
that same vanguard.
who would win?

[dull hollow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/528197562998718474/965506138814693406/unknown.png hello is this the local mafia i would like to request a hit

[untold crater]

Yours, assuming you have proper gear

[coral wren]

then imagine having
shimakaze,ägir and kronshtadt as your vanguard only to be beaten by a bunch of blue dd unknowns.

[untold crater]

I could easily beat that VG with even 1 of your ships

Maybe not the 104 Noshiro but the rest yea

[untold crater]

Gear issue

[strange tide]

Man images I post are getting reposted a ton.

[river marsh]

[candid sluice]

check the nicknames before u post

[untold crater]

Why do you keep counting your missed exercise as 10 pts?

[strange tide]

Because it was a 10 points fight?

[cinder wolf]

[untold crater]

Okay,let's say your next mover is +44 points ahead of you, you take it and get your +11, would you still say you're "10 points behind"?

[cinder wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/little-boy-calculator-thinking-gif-14915197

[harsh knot]

[mental temple]

Do BF109G's have a good place in PVP, or would some Tigercats be better?

[trail temple]

Yes and no

They fire all their rockets at the target so when they connect, you'll deal a chunk of damage

And since vanguards are typically light or medium, rockets work well

But, they can still miss, and when you miss, you'll deal no damage. They have crap plane HP, crap crash damage and don't intercept

Although, I'd say the Hornet is the better one to have out of all 3

[mental temple]

Sounds like thwy're only good at wiping a Vanguard and not much else

[trail temple]

It's really good at wiping the vanguard (when Anchorage is not the target), yes

[mental temple]

Aye, thank you

Also, howe would be better than WarKai for PVP, wouldn't she, especially when paired with two HMS?

[uncut agate]

Howe is definitely worse than Warkai for PvP

in any situation

[pseudo copper]

War Kai is better, Howe not meta rn and can't recall her ever being useful in pvp

[uncut agate]

She never was

[safe meteor]

btw, is there a pvp tier list that you find good?

[pseudo copper]

Yeah, why I say never recall her ever being useful

[mental temple]

Why so?

[uncut agate]

I don't think there's any good pvp tierlist? maybe check out the one on slaimuda

[safe meteor]

i was there with the discussion on that tier list

do you think any ships that are weird or should be added on the list?

[uncut agate]

Her barrage is random and not very strong. Warkai has priority target and her barrage has guaranteed crit

[safe meteor]

(Except Aurora, not sure how she got there, i was against it)

[candid sluice]

a good chunk of that list is weirdly positioned

[mental temple]

🤔 I've heard that her barrage is often better, besides the targeting

[candid sluice]

tierlist bad

targeting is what makes warkai barrage good

[safe meteor]

it was able to delete Medium armor CV back in the days

[pseudo copper]

PvP != PvE

You have to treat the 2 very differently

[safe meteor]

vanguard sailing speed is also very important in pvp

[dry socket]

warkai does an insane amount of damage with her snipe

think about it

you overkill in pve

esp w poor timing

[safe meteor]

also, you dont have random suicide boats in the back that Warkai snipes

[dry socket]

but in pvp that's a massive hit on one of the backline

[safe meteor]

or they dont even move

stationary backline in pvp is perfect condition for Warkai barrage to snipe on

[safe meteor]

btw, what ships are weirdly positioned?

[dry socket]

there's always the kaine tierlist

where that is idk

[candid sluice]

u tell me

[safe meteor]

yea, would like to see if that list got updated again

[candid sluice]

pull up the list and i show

[pseudo copper]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1x6mFbmO6Ls9C4PvN2A7R9Jyzux35yLWHJOduy4V6yJE/edit

[uncut agate]

Howe's barrage isn't strong, it's mostly for the accuracy and rld buff that she provides in PvE that she's good

[pseudo copper]

Wait

Wrong link

[candid sluice]

kaine list outdated too

[pseudo copper]

There we go

[candid sluice]

sep 20 2021 lol

[safe meteor]

whats outdated?

[candid sluice]

tbf not much has changed

[dry socket]

mafia's still up there

[candid sluice]

except anchovy

[safe meteor]

i see Shimakaze, that should be the lastest change?

[dry socket]

the russian comment kind of

didn't age well

[safe meteor]

do you think Juneau is still T0 compared to Anchorage?

[candid sluice]

yea just shima

[safe meteor]

and Seattle in T0.5 instead of like Shimakaze or Duca

i guess those things are a bit "outdated" nowadays?

[dry socket]

the comps are still valid though

[candid sluice]

it just hasnt been looked at in a while

a bunch of those ships fell off

[safe meteor]

VV should prob go into T0.5 with the rise of Torp ships

and FdG down, since triple BB is not a thing in pvp lately

[trail temple]

All the top players have left and the knowledge with them

[safe meteor]

but i guess not much else has changed lately?

[candid sluice]

mainz t1 new meta

[dry socket]

triple bb probably t1?? doesn't feel that strong

[safe meteor]

they are a step below like Shinano + NJ + Hiryuu kai, or the Italian Maffia

can they even spot CV without a CV?

[dry socket]

isn't the strat there just

delete vg

[safe meteor]

yea good luck with Anchorage existence

[candid sluice]

other than vg wipe only other way is thru burns

[trail temple]

The premise was on the idea that burn can reveal

[candid sluice]

which is unreliable

[pseudo copper]

Yes, but inconsistently

[trail temple]

But yeah, not consistent

[pseudo copper]

Very inconsistent from when I tried it

[candid sluice]

hence why richy and fdg are there

[safe meteor]

actually

it missed i think like UvH ?

since it hasnt been updated since then

[candid sluice]

we dont talk about uvh

[safe meteor]

oh?

terrible pvp ship?

[dry socket]

uvh pvp

[safe meteor]

i think it was with how the penalty stacks?

like 20% penalty for BB and gets added with UvH penalty into something like 65% penalty?

[trail temple]

and then include the 20% reduced damage that defender fleets take if UvH is on defence

[safe meteor]

so defenders only have 15% dmg left compared to other BB that should have 60%

[heavy seal]

If UvH on offense you meant?

[safe meteor]

defense gets another 20% dmg penalty

[cinder wolf]

uvh pretty decent on offense if you can afford fp stacking

[worn perch]

uvh is the "it could work" kinda ship

[heavy seal]

Defensive fleet deal less damage than offensive?

[safe meteor]

ye

the vanguards on defense also start closer to your side, so your BB hit them with guns, but they can hit you easier with torps

[cinder wolf]

she's more consistent than vivi at least

[uncut agate]

I hate that actually, the tradeoff isnit worth it

[candid sluice]

more space for em to shoot down planes and torps closer to your backline

id rather no attack bonus but both vg start at mid

[cinder wolf]

remove buff and reset button

wanna see ppl tryharding def fleet

[strange tide]

Got distracted, missed another fight at 6/10.

I'm fucking great.

[heavy seal]

https://i.gifer.com/Cib5.gif

[untold crater]

Oh no

Anyways

[cinder wolf]

aotn 2hard

[untold crater]

Mean while on tw I missed 12 exercises

[strange tide]

It's funny, I miss a fight, and suddenly I get three +11 fights in a row.

But I'm at 1527 when I should be near 1551, so I'm 24 points behind.

Yeah, the fact I'm basically on par with rank 1 now is very bad.

[candid sluice]

so youre telling me missing tickets is the new meta?

[strange tide]

If it was I wouldn't be getting a harder time to be rank 1.

[candid sluice]

i missed about 40 attacks am i doing well?

[trail temple]

Nah, defence. As the others have mentioned, all ships on the defence fleet deal 20% less damage

[trail temple]

We call that Priconne/BA PvP, and we already know how that will go (spoiler: if people think pvp is shit now, then they will hate it if you did that)

[cinder wolf]

ba pvp is fun tho

[light crystal]

Needs some Aquilium infusion to fix it.

[river marsh]

i thought you quit AL

[strange tide]

If you like to suffer.

[cinder wolf]

cant relate

[keen silo]

go touch some grass everyone

[forest vapor]

Are these scores of people who have zeroed out their exercises or people who are still sitting on 5/10

[strange tide]

I assume zeroed out their exercises, since for me to be equal to them, I'd also have to zero out mine.

[forest vapor]

Oh I see, I still have a chance at top 100 then

First season where I'm aiming to break past Vice Admiral

[strange tide]

Oh yeah, top 100 is piss easy if you're keeping up with your fights.

Even if you're not sandbagging, it should be very easy to get.

[cinder wolf]

so is aotn

[strange tide]

I missed 5 fights and was unable to get AotN.

[keen silo]

u just didnt bag hard enough

[trail temple]

There was one season I missed 8 exercises

[keen silo]

[untold crater]

Let's see this season

[trail temple]

[forest vapor]

Rip my cat distracted me and I lost a fight

F

You look away for 7 seconds and NJ kills everyone

[arctic sluice]

Should I replace Essex with Independence

[keen silo]

you should replace your entire fleet

[arctic sluice]

No I don’t have NJ

No shimmy either

[keen silo]

it doesnt matter

warkai based fleet probably still better

[arctic sluice]

What’s exactly wrong with the fleet

[pseudo copper]

Not being good

[keen silo]

[heavy seal]

Independence is surprisingly good in pvp. In recap its damage is on par with Aquila.

[candid sluice]

This looks like a solid new player fleet at best

[worn perch]

the enterprise carry early powerspike

[trail temple]

That's basically my Amagi fleet

[candid sluice]

[light crystal]

[keen silo]

[harsh knot]

lmao

[forest vapor]

Enterprise carried a bunch of PvP fights I had no right winning when I was new

[candid sluice]

enty long island early game pvp carry

[light crystal]

Embrace RNGer.

[forest current]

I'm trying to get more into PvP but I am having a hard time finding a current gear list can someone link or DM me one

🙂

[strange tide]

So most gear tends to be the same as PvE, so if you're having trouble with gear, you can refer to this: https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

There are only a few exceptions for PvP, that being Pearl Tears, which you'll basically exclusively use in PvP.

The Beaver Badge ends up being useful as well so your vanguard can dodge stuff.

[river marsh]

is +10 per win good?

i almost always get +10

and sometimes +11

[strange tide]

+10 is the average.

+11 is when your opponent had about 35 points more than you, so you got slightly more.

So yeah.

+10 is good.

+11 is even better.

[river marsh]

thanks

👍

[pseudo copper]

Can get +12 and +13 , but if your pace is good, is not too common

Esp +13, you are unlikely to get that unless you overcapped

Or rather low on ladder and lucky ig

[candid sluice]

no pvp gear is way diff than pve

[keen silo]

[strange tide]

Don't tell me that for BBs you don't use either the MK6/7 or Georgia Gun.

[keen silo]

Gear list depends on team

i dont use georgia gun for pve

only on uvh

[strange tide]

Yeah but like, in a general sense, you'd use a similar set of gear as PvE.

[strange tide]

I do. On NJ.

Especially when bosses are Medium/Heavy.

[keen silo]

There are some standard mafia fleets going around u can refer to @forest current

[candid sluice]

ah yes double shells mk7 nj and dluble toolbox shima are great equips for pvp

[strange tide]

But Double Shells Georgia Gun NJ is what I use.

[candid sluice]

and thats why you cant get aotn

[uncut agate]

can't get AotN simply by not doing exercises

[river marsh]

i could easily get aotn but i simply refuse so that others can be aotn

[strange tide]

But I win every fight.

[river marsh]

you say you win every fight, yet you cannot reach aotn rank

[keen silo]

[candid sluice]

i can use long island and win every fight still dont mean ill do well

[keen silo]

[strange tide]

I missed 5 fights last season, I lost too many points to get the rank.

[river marsh]

ffs

im rank 135

[uncut agate]

I got AotN two seasons ago after missing 10 exercises

[keen silo]

miss 15 can still get

just bag harder

[river marsh]

so close to admiral rank

[keen silo]

[strange tide]

How the fuck.

Well to be fair I probably did a bunch of below average point fights last season before I decided to actually go for high rank, so there's also that.

Also it's possible I might have missed more than 5 fights because I wasn't caring about PvP at the start of the season, but still.

[zealous wasp]

bag harder

[strange tide]

[untold crater]

Pulled a latias

[strange tide]

Well, assuming I don't miss any more fights, I can get around 2570+.

[keen silo]

u will get a lot higher

if u bag harder

[river marsh]

possible aotn?

[strange tide]

Who knows?

[worn perch]

Keep missing fight this season

[frank pebble]

How accurate is this

[jolly lichen]

probably ignore the blue bolded text, then the rest is probably ok

we have tea torps for pvp now

and just general manual usage, because fans are overrated

[candid sluice]

what year was that vid posted

looks like its outdated

[cinder wolf]

jannies need to clean up the pins as well

[jolly lichen]

eh looks clean enough, give me something pin-worthy and I'll consider it

[keen silo]

the pins are very outdated

[river marsh]

even his recent vids are outdated

[frank pebble]

A year ago

[late heath]

Just build your own comp, aka use Kashino

[dull hollow]

so does the devs vs the playerbase count as pvp

[frank pebble]

Better than automated bots following lines as they shoot dots

[candid sluice]

lol yea i thought as much looks like it was made during ijn meta

[cinder wolf]

yeah clean and obsolete

[cinder wolf]

during french meta

[candid sluice]

when was french ever meta

[dull hollow]

i mean richliue and bart were slapping ppl for a good while

before nj came in the gap between toppy teams wasnt so wide

[frank pebble]

how would I improve this setup (alternate ships)?

[uncut agate]

do you have the Italians and NJ?

[frank pebble]

no. I assume italians are aquila

[uncut agate]

I see, what about Shimakaze, Richelieu, Seattle, Noshiro and Birmingham?

switch out Ark Royal for Independence retrofit