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best u can do is probably old ijn
Yeah you’re missing way to much to counter mafia
Maybe PvP is not for me
kronk good? 
do u have nano
Nano?
the fat milf carrier
Oh yeah
But I though she only good in PvE
u might have a chance with airstrike nuke and anchovy stall vg
She’s good in PvP. She’s just slow
lots of preload stuff, kinda see a pattern here
Has to get an airstrike out before getting destroyed
smth like anchovy yuki jun and pray nano doesnt get shafted by shima
got Chise?
preload
Aquila replacement
budget preload
akagi kaga?
yea u missed out on a lotta meta ships 
poor mans pvp
back to enty li proc fishing
I mean when they are out who know they gonna be meta before several month testing right?
only way pvp meta gonna shift is if they release a preload ijn carrier/bb with 344 slots 
some broken ass bb with preload/fast load with execute skill
oh this became a main chat now?
jesus christ, just tried mafia (what I was told it was at least) and it just insta-kills the frontline like..
preload good
game too ez now
put on real equipment they will be better
except NJ and shima, they carry for now
they still have skills lvl 1 and are lvl 70 cause I don't have bulins, but will try to raise them from now on

What she gonna pray on after I wreck her with aquila
Found this nice picture
Buy the way anyone have some salt I need it for my fries
what
Don't touch my Salty
Hood with 16 barrels 
Attack fleet advantage
Why do people say not to put UvH on off-flag
gimps her main gun damage
Damage reduction + damage reduction = a ton of damage reduction
and the damage debuff is additive
BB/CV do 20% less damage without any gear effects or skills in exercises
And off-flag UvH has damage reduction too
P much only source of damage is her barrage then
Haha
Check #server-news
yoo u just defeated the legendary EGORR
ENTY OP?!?
Enterprise is really nice carrier
Hmmmm
Idk why do people use the 76mm AA gun on Shima
Shima has very low firepower but very powerful aoa
Eh
By using the 76mm you can easily abuse the AoA
- shima gun damage sucks sucks, like its really really really bad
- shima has barrage that has a proc chance tied to main gun shots
therefore, you can speed meme the main gun slot to get faster barrage procs
Plus, 10x0 = 0
I use the German twin 128mm
no matter what gun you use
since shima's fp stat
and efficiencies
are really really bad
Oh
its basically 0 damage from that slot
Sam in pvp 


This was pretty much the expected outcome 
Yeah
shinano is good she is jus slower than mafia fleets
this is pvp not gph so
pvp and pve have really different enviroment
last 5 exers using uvh off-flag instead of vv, not that bad
literally why i said she was slower than mafia?
i used shinano to top 10 eos
u think i dont know she can be used in pvp?


UvH is bad imo
Vs any good fleet she does 1-8k dmg
Not comparable to VV or Riche or FdG or even WK
You can squint at it and say UvH’s slow if it hits vanguard can be pretty funny
But most good fleet won’t be hit by it
Yes, the CN meme
Also bad yeah


It is mainly so that the NJ’s 10 sec barrage can cripple vanguard
Well there are other things to consider
Tbf swordfish AQL wasn't bad until anchorage
Like the targetting
yeah
Which is never consistent

Swordfish Aquila does work for a time until the opponent just out gear you using Wyvern

Ofc I don’t doubt the pvp capabilities of you all
A lot of people here are consistent eos top 10s


Yea but what's a EoS T10'er compared to a week 1 R1'er?


You mean
Week 1 early food

rip those test subjects not qualified as good fleet 
imagine losing to nard
misaka bad 
pvp is pvp lol
i faced someone with manju enty is this the new meta??

But lv125 enty only has 7k without gear
What gear gives the other 63k
Lmk so i can put it on my NJ
Lemonju +13
Dual autoloader not meta anymore???
Sadly not
So your nj can strike the opponent nj down before she can even attack once
Oh thats just the 30% quicker radar
guys whats the name of the equipment i use to give enty 70k hp??
pearls tears 
Only Enty could do it
i heard if u get 70k enty u will also get a mail from yostar themselves
My eyes
Too much ur ships
you can exploit 70k hp by equipping 2 toolboxes
one at +6 the other at +9
stagprince secret
Essex's eyes of heaven
Whatever happened to that guy? 
Hmm maybe actually
Was a long time ago
When was the last wall of shame? They stopped doing that right?
im not sure actually
he got a warn mail thats it lmao
fr? wtf
Imagine you do that for EoS and only get warned..
But with a ship that can actually kill VG instead of a CV
monkas
lucky he wasnt competitive enough


the true endgame
is catapult + beacon better than double catapult in pvp?
Fuel/oil tank is better
cata + oil tank?
generally u want gas beacon
50/150 fuel better because plane crash damage scales with plane HP

wait how do you get this
and no i don't intend to violate tos myself
nvm don't share.
Player had enterprise with 70k HP in pvp
Ah yes peek pvp
Where are you peeking? 

Break rule get warn
That’s not my mail 

When will the suffering ever end? 
It’ll not end unless you married Kashino and level her to 125/200
Then why haven't you gotten 2600 yet? 
Too afraid to admit that unultra NTR'd your Kashino? 
After all, you can't spell UNULTRA without "NTR"

I actually went to 2669 but it was so high I didn’t show up on the board
Kashino power was too overwhelming
I beefed up my fleet, still couldn't beat him this morning
No one in Amagi can, except Rumi cauz Rumi is a cheater 
Do you use Helena in pvp???
If you’re a masochist yea
I avoid Unultra

Does mean I lose more points

best CL gun for BB in pvp?
Seattle gun
When I unlocked Seattle she didn’t come with any guns?
How do I get you can only do the PR ships once
pr2 CL gun
U don’t get it from unlocking seattle it’s the blueprints from season 2 research projects 

Pict?
What about essexgun
🍋

rip meme

Would Independence or Saratoga be better suited for PVP, combined with Centaur?
indep kinda slept on
indep birmingham 
Saratoga still manages a quite higher airstrike damage right?
no
What combination of plane would work best, excluding the Wyvern?
only wyvern sadly
skypirate
Better than nothing
second best
I guess I'll get a Tigercat + Sky Pirate and be happy then lol
honestly id go cuda over skypirate
Do the BF-109G and JU-87D have a place in PvP?
skypirate so slow and cuda offers crash
oh shit my bad bro
Converging torps are eh
junkers is inconsistent
Ah, bombs would be better in that sense then?
Straight torps are fine
just regular parallel torps
parallel torps are better
Ah, alright. Barracuda will stay put then
is it time to go back to indep birmingham?
We have someone do it on Avrora already
shit
Ever since indep retro was a thing
yeh i saw a few
Sadly it isn't Trump
agency

818 gud
not rainbow 
818 and Ark aren't the only things that causes slow. I think.
I'm sure Shinano does it, but I'm sure it's not just those.
Shinano doesn't have a slow herself
Centaur has a slow, Formi, Peter and August have a stop
elden ring made me forget to do my exercises before the 2 am reset
AGAIN
missed 2 seasons now

Very competitive pvp
I have 11 rings sitting around...do oaths really make that much of a difference because I was saving them for sitting on and then marrying all of the fletchers except for fletcher herself
for pvp? no
If you wanna min-max your stats, that's about it
It’s a nice boost for sure but not make or break
If you married Kashino, you’ll get better rng
Use your 10 ring to seal goetia into the void
Don't forget to chant the incatations too
It used to be important during the old days of Akaga meta, but as now everything has preload the extra reload from oath is meaningless
No
So what is the team people use now in pvp?
Italians, new jersey, anchorage, shimakaze...
standard mafia 
juneau
What is standart mafia , i have no idea what that team is
Aquila Veneto NJ
Anchorage Abruzzi Shimakaze
vittorio veneto aquila nj
anchorage shimakaze duca
Dont have either? Prepare to lose
she kinda is
Unless you want your vanguard dying in 2 seconds
no she isnt

Gotta love invulnerability skill
many people here dont use anchorage and have consistent eos t10

guess shes required to win
Seattle also works
What people use in achorage place?
probably azuma or some other CB
Juneau
Also duca vs shima which one better in middle?
Shima
Standard CL stuff pretty much
speed/pearls + 533 mag probably
Speed eh? Not toolbox ? Also what is 533 mag
the black torpedo in Aux slot
meta has changed a lot from old nagashinaryuu days
enty OP?!
She's serviceable
shes not horrible but cant compete with mafia/weebs
I retire al
Vs preload team usually she died before she summon plane or only able to summon plane once
What you dont want to laugh at manjuu on enty?
Counterside is the game with summon minion gameplay?
you play it
you’re in that discord
bro.. i am rank 1 pvp there 
Ill still call it counter shit
its gacha
How did you know lmao , but damn kinda hate how high pvp is full of whales (either you have UR unit or lose ) still can win but damn i hate how unfair ur unit
id call all gachas shit
You dont need to be whale for UR
I see your name before
But damn your memory is great , i am like 4-6 months since i said anything in that discord
or if theres literally anything more fun than idle sitting
you still play even?
Nah quit after i cant get the phoenix girl
Yuna?
yea quite unlucky lol


Yeah, you can most definitely finish top 10 at the end of season without Anchorage
can verify i was top10 
:EssexPoint:
verify dn
i try to avoid using child labor when i can


"when i can"

Can verify, I got rank 1 with Akaga Hood/downes/Cassin/laffey
so it's not Juneau meta anymore?
imagine if you could make dupe PR ships and the only way to get Seattle gun was to grind another Seattle from the lab 
Don’t even need to whale for resources to get UR tbh, I only swap for skin/ring and rn I’m sitting on 500+ cubes & max gold cap despite only able to grind once/day for the past few days since I was pretty busy to the point of missing a few exercises which I rarely does 
She's still on the meta, but she's no longer the "Always bring to win" ship
welp no aotn for me this seeason, forgot that i was at 10 limit and wasted5 attempts
Can still hit AotN

EoS depends on your pace
Can always make up those points with a bit of bagging
Mission accepted: bagging salty

Mini flex?
Damn
😄
Its hour in
That will change in give or take
30 minutes
Because right now this is sandys
I still have 10 battles left to use 
Nice! gl! 🙂 I think I'm on Amagi server though so maybe we can both win 😄
Define win
Bc no winning in pvp


There’s no winning, there’s suffering from lack of sleep just to run exercises at 2 AM
kekboom
Or just do the amount you need to before its late at night
Real gamers sleep at 11 and still get eos
Do u still get eos
Then u are not a real gamer
does anyone know the gear for chesshire?
234 quadmag sexybofor rudder 550/heels
Only if you still have 5 exercises left
real gamers don't sleep

pvp spepelaff
pvp atk fleet
wat backline do u have
whats the next best option youd recommend?
i need to see your available options or the recommendation will always be mafia
whats that
better to verify
no chise either
Think it can be faster for us and you if you take a ss of your backline ships ig
Can put em in a thread or just post em here since channel isn't that crowded ig
alright
wait so vg is fine? ill get them to 125 eventually
one sec i can do vertical screen shot easier on my phone
its a good vg
Vanguard is fine, issue is backline
dont really need to switch up vg
issue is perseus and to a lesser extent independence cuz she sucks without cleve class inside
the big glaring problem is perseus
thats why we wanna know which backlines u have
pvp gear =/= pve gear 🙂
Why a lot of "good" comps do badly
main fleet cv , bb or everything?
all
Everything
should me top of your screen
its 2 images
just play weeb
Wait you have Chise
u got 125 shinano and 120 hiryuu, u already got the key units
bruh u got aquila right there
And Aquila
bruh
then raise her
go max aquila
Do you also have VV?
dont look like he got vittorio
your aquila is already lvl100 it wont take long to raise her
probs like 4 days max
o true
but then does aquila get replaced? in that case ill go for the final option instead
or if she doesnt thats fine
replace your pers with aquila when shes leveled
vv aquila nj is the meta backline
Aquila rn is not being replaced, but pvp meta changes every so often
yeah this is what i was thinking
Good thing is generally pvp meta ships are also great in pve
so i keep pers in for now
So no loss there
do you have vittorio
no
Except like a few
is the million dollar question

thats fine if youre working on aquila lvling in the meantime
lets see your ships equips while youre at it

gear > units
Prob Riche imo
FdG ig can work?
fdg sounds like some copium
ye
i mean theres no real replacement for the buffs she gives to whole fleet
but if youre just looking for fastload he just richy
yea probably
alright so pers -> aquila is the only change ill make then?
Yeah, that's the issue I had, but Riche will prob work best for what's there
drop indep for richelieu
Indep -> Riche, and Riche on flag
nice can do that right now
Then please take ss of the gear you are using on every ship
and use her right now?
get her levels up , in the meantime just use perseus
im bothered, ill do it
if u wanna save her to farm next event then its fine
so as it is right now they should always win yeah
think if u fight any weak fleet u win easily
yh they beat weak fleet before too
if what youre using currently is beating your opps then its fine
i mean against meta fleets
but if u gonna go against real fleets u gotta level aquila
so whats the hardest fleet to beat?
what server r u on, also its typically mafia
sander
alright
ye thats also strong
nvm u dont have hiryu raised
i dont see
Oh wait she is
its the bottom of the first screenshot
But not retro'd
what fleet is that?
this is the team @valid rampart
NJ, Hiryuu, Shinano
for atk ?
yea
sure can do, just missing june
juneau can be replacedi think
just keep luigi then
ah
or yukikabruh if u have
Mafia, weeb and triple bb are the strongest pvp comps rn

triple bb 
Do yall use triple CBs in pvp?
Hell no
I hate this 
Tf happen? How are you losing.
nj has all my ships devstrike
Good lord
She is lv 99 my ships over 100
should i use HvP or riche standalone for Pvp?
man it smells like sweat in here
Who tf is HvP
Henrich von Parseval
Who tf is that
New UR
Is salty Belfast your alt
Shhh don’t tell anyone

Nah, it's K E N N Y
What is best fighter for pvp ? And does this one good?
Is warspite retro good for pvp?
You got the right fighter for PvP there
Can be good still, but not top pick
oki
sea hornet 
That plane is good if it doesn’t shoot water
Well most of the upper PVP have the following; Vanguard:: Anchorage, Shimakaze and Duca or Juneau. Backline has: New Jersey, Aquila and Vittorio Veneto aka mafia fleet.
Personally I replaced VV with UvH and it seems to be working pretty well.
Real answer is replace all of them

If going for meta
Meta ships
Is it worthwhile to try shooting down aircraft?
reducing plane hp = yes
actually killing the plane = no
In pvp?... Only if you're fighting a CV based fleet
But you rarely see those anyway
And just killing VG will be more effective since CVs can't do anything to VG when they're too close for TB
Does reducing plane HP do something?
Yes
Plane crash damage is directly tied to the planes remaining HP
If a plane has 10% HP left when it crashes, the crash damage will be 10%
Thanks
30% minimum
Literally using shima over buki is a massive upgrade 
Mb should have said that
Was for example but yeah, 30% min
salty teach me the way for PVP
Rush for him
Give me your points
Give me your lolis

XD
Salty lolis


Now there's an SKK with good taste
Race queen is pretty based
Issue in skill
I rather issue in loli

guys is imperio good for pvp???
No
Since +60% bonus dam is on 2nd straike
No preload
And when you reach 2nd reload, enemy Aquila nuke all yall VG already




aoste moment
Who even is 🇦 🇶 🇱
AQuiLa
is impero good for pvp?
i wonder 
No preload and doesn’t get the buffs that Aquila does
impero bad for pvp then? 
Scroll up bruh I already asked 

who i missed it bro
where'd you get that from 
found it nvm
guys is imperium > aquila???
say less bro
k


guys is formidable good for pvp????
stops vg so mst be good
What 3rd ship can i fit in backline with nagato and hakuryuu?
Hiryuu ig
Can't drop aq if you didn't get her
She was. A long long time ago. 




The comp can still blow up the vg, but it requires very precise timing
Although I have a feeling that August could be better than Formi if you're going down that path
use the same team but put shima mid nj top
Marry Kashino
that too
I don’t have Italy ready
then use weeb and pray u dont die the first 10secs
I died
Oh shit boomer
You would need a mirror of that same fleet and pray that your rng is better. It’s harder for you if you missed out on those six event ships.
5*
stop the cap bro
u just need the cheatcode nj

Hello everyone
Does someone here knows a lot about pvp fleet building? I need a lot of help in this topic
show your ships and equipment
Well i have a lot of ships not developed but i dont mind doing this if necessary since i only focused on building a stable mob and boss fleet
do you have the cheatcode new jersey
hm it looks like u started fairly recently yea
i think its fair to say you wont be building a full meta fleet soon
Well, somewhere around november/december yes
Of course not, but maybe its possible to build something that works good there since my clan told me pvp is something completely different than campaign
did u not play during shimakaze event?
I didnt had that event
well lets see what we are working with
Started after the new jersey event
first off your two rainbows are an auto addition to the team
shimakaze event was after new jersey
Oh
depends who the third vg ship is
Well normally i use her together with rikka in my mob fleet
Allright and in the back i used to use enty and essex
backline wise ulrich enty sex probs just cus levels
early on levels > ships for the most part
put ulrich mid and enty top
Hmmn ill do that, thanks a lot
ill just fleetbuilder it
what equips u got on rikka atm im curious
cus i havent played around with her so dunno proper eqs
Just her event stuff and i made good experiences with that
I need to get the rudder for her and for sandy as well
hm i guess that works
also get yourself the beaver badge from collection
very good aux item
pretty easy to get too
Who should i give it to then?
kront
so with what you have right now this is what i came up with
eventually u wanna swap out those toolboxes for +eva equips like rudder and beaver
also the planes can use major upgrades
but strictly using what u have rn thats p solid
I am glad you changed not that much, that shows me that i am slowly understanding gears and stuff like that, literally thanks a lot to you, appreciate it!
just disclaimer u wont be beating real fleets with that cus its just something for u to start with
I understand but it should be enough to farm some small stuff in pvp
yeah it should be able to beat the small fishes
anw if u have any more questions feel free to ask
I'll probably do that xD
Soon i will have ägir unlocked, can i use her then in this composition?
Atm i want her for my boss fleet
she seems unnecessary but could replace either kront or rikka
though with how long it would take to raise her i dont think its necessary
just focus on gathering better equips
Can you give advice to mob and boss fleets as well maybe?
Cuz over time i replaced some ships here and there together with my guild
So @candid sluice i have one last question about pvp for now. If i change equip on those ships in my dock, is the equip still on the ships i deployed as def fleet?
is famie9 winning this season?
bringing back this classic
O.o
r/tihi
Your pvp def fleet & dock fleet use same gear set
kronk in pvp 
Kronk would be good DPS, but sorta long windup. Viable I guess. All three CB's are
amagi banned 
im avrora now 
is avrora good in pvp????
not as good as amagi
Not as good as Kashino
Yea your pvp fleets used loadouts from your dock
Washington to is better
Avorva in top tier is the mafia fleet.
I wonder why every fleet that have NJ and preload cv the damage seems high, i mean sometime my vanguard or backline lose half hp
It is because NJ or something?
That's just what NJ does
The preload CVs both get their attacks in before you do and remove the stealth on your own CVs so that NJ can pick them off
Huh, has this always been here?
veneto gun and aquila planes?
veneto uses 406 mk7

dam aoste famous


guyz i need help
This is my first season I'm trying to compete in pvp
I'm a Captain ranked 7014 in the leaderboard , and I was wondering why I'm not advancing to the next rank
Do i need to be in top 1k ?
Gotta....yeah top 1k
My defence fleet is weak, bacause I wanted to help people who compete in pvp. Do i loose ranks when they beat me ?
Rank-wise...kinda since they'll be able to pass u
I have meme fleet tho since attackers can always retry if they close to losing
Don’t focus on ur defense focus on better offense
If I retreat, do I loose one "exercise ticket" ?
Nope
ayay captain
I see
Thanks for the help guys
That’s why defense don’t matter much
Since u can always reset
It only matters if you are attacking seconds before a reset time
How many exercises in a day do you guys do ?
I mean, I do 10 but I guess the game gives you more opportunities, if I'm not wrong
if u wanna maximise your points u gotta do all your attacks and win
also attack ppl higher ranked but thats a different story
Might be tough to fight the meta defense setups tho if you're kinda starting off
Yeah... I'm pretty much a casual player, so I don't think that's always going to work
I have smthing like 4/6 of the UR ships, but I don't use them
I just want to rank up as much as I can while having fun
use new jerjey at least
Main URs in PvP are like... Shina/NJ/Shima
I hope the new UR ship they'll add will also be good in pvp, then
they have to be balls busted to change the meta atm
Juneau 4ever
My wife Uzuki wins the competiton hands down
Came back to PvP like 3 seasons ago, gotta be honest I never rly used her b4 but had to 125 her in order to have an optimal attack setup
yea levels give a massive advantage
What rank (like commander and so on) are you guys at ?
i missed a lotta tickets this season so im far down
Ya asking about Base/Commander level or exercise rank?
Managed to get AotN, sitting at rank 127 now tho with reset attempts left
Is it really neccesary to push rank? I think highest is AotN or smthg?
@frigid knot wtf hi momo
Eh? and Hi. I think only few know my ign. XD
Well I know u r Tirpitz
theres really nothing after aotn except merits on wins
rest of it is just leaderboards chasing

Aahh..ranker flex. Too much effort for nothing after AotN..just my opinion
Just AotN mail reward merit
if u get it u can take it easy for the rest of the season
some ppl just wanna get big number
But in fact, only those same names somehow sitting atop every season.
At least in server I m in
what server r u
Tru
Got all on each server.
theres only a handful of ppl on each server that chase leaderboards
well see
Yup. Agreed. They r so rushing for some time. Then found it s quite useless after..then retired
Btw, Lex n Avr r both my regular acc
I started in order to get Purins
Too many purins, they r troublesome
Now i'm just hoarding merit tho
wdym
maintaining your pvp rank is one way to pursue a successful azur len esport career
Wish somehow better exchange on merit shop. Like gold plate or gear design blueprint
I ve got enough of it. XD
skins in merit shop when
If I can share my merit, I d give to anyone who need it
Naw purins were well low when trying to mlb the SSRs
Cubes? 4K left after event
40gold purins here, dunno who to LB



















