#pvp | Azur Lane Official | Page 704

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:25 AM

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For pr4 univ prints

light crystal Jul 8, 2021, 7:25 AM

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I think Quad mags are gonna be fine. Baguette torps might be needed for NJ barrage, gonna hafta see

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:26 AM

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i mean i also

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only have so many quad mags

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to goa round

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so

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if I can just slap a random shitter torp on big fluffy

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and look away

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like how I slap the 406 Normal ammo on Muse Gascan

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ill do it

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MegaLuL

light crystal Jul 8, 2021, 7:26 AM

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DunktsukiStare

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U can get those from KMS gold crates

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:27 AM

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do u know

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:27 AM

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quad mags = 20 s shield
blocks aquila strike 2 I guess

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:27 AM

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how rare that is

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ive seen like 3 drop

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life time

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:27 AM

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but I think is more important to smoke up for NJ barrage

light crystal Jul 8, 2021, 7:27 AM

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Or also whale from those Universal gold crates u buy from Akashi

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:27 AM

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weeeeel

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:27 AM

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u can craft them in meta lab tho

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:27 AM

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meanwhile

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:27 AM

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so

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i built like 5

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but i rly dont wanna build more

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keqcopium

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:27 AM

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I have had 10 drop from crate pretty sure

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:27 AM

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z35wow

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:27 AM

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i opened like

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:27 AM

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and I have like 300+ gold KMS crate

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:27 AM

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all 1.2k of my golden kms crates

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i got 3

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Sleeperi

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:27 AM

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back in DC

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:28 AM

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15 fucking quints tho

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:28 AM

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I opened ~50

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:28 AM

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keqcopium

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:28 AM

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to get 5

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:28 AM

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Did u enjoy your 500 messers

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:28 AM

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AkagiLUL

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I got 1 quint

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and like 5 quad gold mags

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I think I have like 12-14 now

light crystal Jul 8, 2021, 7:28 AM

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So build for Ancho: Drakegun, Baguette torps, STAAG (Cuz lol AA), Rudder/Kicks/Boiler.

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I dont think u wanna be that fast tho?

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Cuz u can move out from smoke, right?

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:30 AM

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Anchovy doesn’t even have good aa??

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Wtf

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:31 AM

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her job is to make ur front unkillable

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that's about it

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why would u even drake gun her

covert swallow Jul 8, 2021, 7:31 AM

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because why wouldn't you

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BuckyPride

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:31 AM

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i mean if ur swimming in 3-5 sure

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:32 AM

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U running multiple heavy cruisers in pvp? YorkBruh

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:32 AM

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yeehaw

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we on that

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ibuki azuma big fluffy life

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keqL

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:32 AM

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Yes give 234 to azuma YorkBruh

light crystal Jul 8, 2021, 7:33 AM

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candid sluice U running multiple heavy cruisers in pvp? <:YorkBruh:588629709328482325>

I already said this ages ago

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She loses AA mounts so she can have 4x 203mm's instead of Balti's 3x 203mm's

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:33 AM

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but in actuality swapping the drake gun to a CA for just pvp is like way too silly

and big fluffy has no shelling steroid and only average shelling performance

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so ill just stick like the

twin barrel HE gun from some event ago on her

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and call it a day

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Sleeperi

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or the pr3 normal ammo

light crystal Jul 8, 2021, 7:34 AM

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dull hollow why would u even drake gun her

Wtf am I supposed to use Drakegun for anyway lol

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:34 AM

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keep it on drake

light crystal Jul 8, 2021, 7:34 AM

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Not PvE, cuz fuck that shit kek

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:34 AM

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who else is trash clearing for u

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in opsi

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svfrog

light crystal Jul 8, 2021, 7:34 AM

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Not Drake

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:34 AM

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weirdFish

light crystal Jul 8, 2021, 7:34 AM

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So yeah, sucks being u I guess

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:34 AM

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if it werent drake it would

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whoever that CA is

light crystal Jul 8, 2021, 7:34 AM

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AkagiLUL

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:34 AM

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unless ur gonna run Azuma and Agir

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:35 AM

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You could always ya know swap equips

covert swallow Jul 8, 2021, 7:35 AM

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my mob clear for strongholds is just torp boats + preload backlines

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who need CA EntyLUL

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:35 AM

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torp botes

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ConcernCoffee

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:35 AM

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Not using opsi mobs for lvling up smh

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:35 AM

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how do u kill the bosses

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:35 AM

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Perseus

covert swallow Jul 8, 2021, 7:35 AM

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^

light crystal Jul 8, 2021, 7:35 AM

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dull hollow how do u kill the bosses

With backline.

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:35 AM

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i mean like

light crystal Jul 8, 2021, 7:35 AM

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BiskoLUL

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:36 AM

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She singlehandedly wipes 90% of opsi content lmao

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:36 AM

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even with fdg nj and azuma drake jda front

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i sometimes lose ships to stronghold bosses

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and the very occasional tirpitz in corr 6 first time clear

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svfrog

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how u get by with torp shitters in the front

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:36 AM

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Ya tirp is nightmare for lvling vg

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:37 AM

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my definition of opsi trash clear is everyone that's not a Beacon boss btw

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oyylumo

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since i just want to press auto on 1 guy and never look away

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cant think of any torp botes that provide tangible torps while being tanky enough to survive

covert swallow Jul 8, 2021, 7:37 AM

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duca

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:37 AM

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considering that both drake and azuma even with jda

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:37 AM

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What’s beacon boss

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:37 AM

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occasionally run it down

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and die

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SuzunaDerp

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in strongholds

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:38 AM

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Regular map zone bosses Percy can take out by herself

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:38 AM

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okay this is aaaaaaaaa

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:38 AM

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I don’t use mobs in abyssal lol

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:38 AM

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MP does do both barrage herself

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for the 9+3

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:38 AM

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so it's

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back to 12

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svfrog

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:38 AM

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imma just go to sleep

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and come back tomorrow

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:39 AM

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Ya but cross fleet lol

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:39 AM

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place ur bets everyone

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will big fluffy

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:39 AM

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Real question which ship u guys focusing first

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:39 AM

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be preload

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or not

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doesnt matter it's all BP gated

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:39 AM

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Cus I have no idea who to go for

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Exp grind wise

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:39 AM

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i pick and choose whoever based off my ships im leveling in the pipeline

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so most likely big fluffy because the USN shitters

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from nj event

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:39 AM

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Fair enough

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:39 AM

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have coasted into 115

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off dorm

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so they are ready to go outside

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:40 AM

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What’s Marco Polo gimmick btw

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The cross fleet shit?

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:41 AM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460645783021289472/862596700240609280/bb.jpg
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460645783021289472/862596857271287838/aa.jpg drop rates got buffed

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:41 AM

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candid sluice What’s Marco Polo gimmick btw

SAP mods

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150% vs medium

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not as shit as AP vs light

crude mortar Jul 8, 2021, 7:42 AM

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is the new plane actually good?

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:42 AM

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https://streamable.com/7fqspd also her barrage lasts longer than hentai mc

Streamable

RN Marco Polo's 1st Skill Barrage (SL10)

▶ Play video

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:42 AM

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also beeg eff on guns

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:42 AM

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crude mortar is the new plane actually good?

is like +40% dmg over helldiver on paper

crude mortar Jul 8, 2021, 7:42 AM

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wait

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is it dive bomber?

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:42 AM

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yes

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:42 AM

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UR DP yep

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:42 AM

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keqcopium

crude mortar Jul 8, 2021, 7:42 AM

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the fuck

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:42 AM

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with 510x3 bombs

crude mortar Jul 8, 2021, 7:42 AM

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why did i

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:42 AM

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10 face prints lmao

crude mortar Jul 8, 2021, 7:42 AM

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+13 gold hell driver x3

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:42 AM

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why would you indeed

crude mortar Jul 8, 2021, 7:42 AM

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copiumtime

covert swallow Jul 8, 2021, 7:42 AM

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it's from research tho

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so gotta get 50bps PortDoll

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:43 AM

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crude mortar +13 gold hell driver x3

dw is 6 month per plane anyways

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:43 AM

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I only did 2 thank fucek

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One more than I should’ve done

crude mortar Jul 8, 2021, 7:43 AM

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ehhsex copiumtime

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/540426432635994134/862112466858541066/ezgif-1-c726a2e4ac90.gif

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:43 AM

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im -13 my wyvern anyway

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yes

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:43 AM

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I'm +13 my *second wyvern anyways

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:43 AM

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YorkBruh

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:43 AM

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dw in 6 month

crude mortar Jul 8, 2021, 7:43 AM

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what is the reload speed compare to gold helld

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:43 AM

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I'll have enough print

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to +13 this shit too

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12 s base

crude mortar Jul 8, 2021, 7:44 AM

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is it slower

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:44 AM

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also also

covert swallow Jul 8, 2021, 7:44 AM

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fRKztmMzTI0JAYFyrSTcCk155AX3A6h780GduKfak84Ip3WOpJSbC-yiZUQL88BSkCP7oV_mmRWVnaoFYXJaa7KmqmGe8Spwl-1L.png

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:44 AM

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rocket fighter

covert swallow Jul 8, 2021, 7:44 AM

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24% chance armor break

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:44 AM

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KMS fighter has rockets

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4 of them per plane

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:44 AM

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That’s sick

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Is it like ticon rockets

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Or tb

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:44 AM

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the AB this time actually matters yeah

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cause 3x24%

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per plane

crude mortar Jul 8, 2021, 7:44 AM

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agir aquila

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/540426432635994134/862112466858541066/ezgif-1-c726a2e4ac90.gif

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:45 AM

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candid sluice Is it like ticon rockets

apparently so

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:45 AM

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Nice

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Almost guarantee hit

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:45 AM

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mods iirc is skew towards medium though since AP rockets?

crude mortar Jul 8, 2021, 7:45 AM

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man

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if anchorage is CL

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:45 AM

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think i would still pick the 1000lb fighters tho

crude mortar Jul 8, 2021, 7:45 AM

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this ship gonna be legit in pvp

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:45 AM

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110/140/50

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:45 AM

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crude mortar this ship gonna be legit in pvp

is legit anyways

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:45 AM

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just due to radius coverage

crude mortar Jul 8, 2021, 7:45 AM

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in pvp?

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:45 AM

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What’s load time compared to experimental

crude mortar Jul 8, 2021, 7:46 AM

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are you sure you want that smoke

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:46 AM

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yeah she pops immunity at start

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and then again for NJ barrage or Aquila strike

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whichever you want

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:46 AM

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elder crane yeah she pops immunity at start

preload not confirmed

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:46 AM

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oh right that thing

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:46 AM

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other sources dont have preload in their data

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Sleeperi

light crystal Jul 8, 2021, 7:46 AM

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@elder crane So AQL/NJ/MP, Juneau/Ancho/Seattle is legit eh?

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:46 AM

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if no preload her value drops half off a cliff

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:46 AM

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if it's not at start them mmmm

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yeah

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is still probably okay

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:46 AM

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So what’s anchovy’s role in pvp

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:46 AM

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still has some value but a lot of it was lost

crude mortar Jul 8, 2021, 7:46 AM

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does she had x2 preload torp or 1

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cant read moonroon

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:47 AM

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if it works as proper

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:47 AM

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No preload apparently

crude mortar Jul 8, 2021, 7:47 AM

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what

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:47 AM

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if the moonrunes on dim is correct there is preload

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if it's not

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there's no preload

crude mortar Jul 8, 2021, 7:47 AM

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anchorage no preload?

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:47 AM

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there are other CN mine posted

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that do not have the preload text

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in theirs

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for big fluffy rage

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:47 AM

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yeah is either one preload a la duckies or none

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:47 AM

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sleepHanaDuck

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yeah

crude mortar Jul 8, 2021, 7:48 AM

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dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:48 AM

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that's dim text

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see the other CN mine

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:48 AM

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yeah that's one source

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:48 AM

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no text

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is up in the air

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:48 AM

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Is cn trolling us again YorkBruh

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:48 AM

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u could probably run suztsuki and big fluffy

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for memes

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keql

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:49 AM

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Eh they’re all blueprint gated anyways see u all in 1-2 months for first dev30s

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:50 AM

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1 month wut

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:50 AM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475414043348172811/862111728615424000/ezgif-1-cc19abba32f8.gif

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:50 AM

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tbf is new research system so who knoooows

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:50 AM

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jp server has the worst PR rates so

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:50 AM

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something something rebalanced so gold rarity projects actually good now

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:50 AM

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ill let u guys know in 3-4 month

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:50 AM

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If u can get 10 prints in one face

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:50 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/616363000382750747/862350417232396288/sex_car.webm

▶ Play video

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:50 AM

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my guess is

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:50 AM

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I don’t see why u can’t

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:50 AM

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rebalansed

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so blue rarity projects

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now all 🚮

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:51 AM

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But how does the rates affect blue cube

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:51 AM

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for some reason jp always gets shitter rates in cross global gacha

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honkai's is atrocious

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CryQin

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 7:51 AM

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candid sluice But how does the rates affect blue cube

who knooooooows

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:51 AM

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YorkBruh

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Speculation time

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:52 AM

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whos ready for the new DB meta

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1 yr from now

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everyone stacking DB

crude mortar Jul 8, 2021, 7:52 AM

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just use alot of aa stat

timid current Jul 8, 2021, 7:52 AM

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when we get a ship with 3 db slots

light crystal Jul 8, 2021, 7:52 AM

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So Ancho's Proload torps are not a sure thing? But if Dim's datamine has it, then it should be true ThinkZed

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:52 AM

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Haku

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is a ship

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with 3 DB slots

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SuzunaDerp

timid current Jul 8, 2021, 7:52 AM

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KEKW

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:53 AM

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i think?

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maybe i blind

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ah nvm

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her slot 1

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not

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Sleeperi

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she can hold

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7 dive bomber tho

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er

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nvm

timid current Jul 8, 2021, 7:53 AM

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🚮

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:53 AM

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wait is it 23 4

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or 3 4 2

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SuzunaDerp

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:53 AM

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424 YorkBruh

covert swallow Jul 8, 2021, 7:54 AM

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I'm just gonna assume she gets preload torp at dev10 since it's in dims datamine

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until someone can prove me wrong

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:54 AM

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there's already

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other CN mine

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which according to 3c fwiw

is more accurate than dim histoircallly

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no preload

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:55 AM

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What other differences are there

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:55 AM

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oh haku is 2 4 4 if u go DB

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but if u go torps on her

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it's like...

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2 4 2 LUL

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 7:55 AM

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YorkBruh

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Literally db nano

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:58 AM

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rly hard to say if her barrage is gonna make noise or not

light crystal Jul 8, 2021, 7:58 AM

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Well, I'm going to be running on assumption of Preload. Gonna know for sure in a few hours. If not, that's going to make me recalculate priority

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:58 AM

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crude mortar Jul 8, 2021, 7:59 AM

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wait

covert swallow Jul 8, 2021, 7:59 AM

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yea I'm going anchorage, and if she doesn't have preload torps I'll just do something else instead

crude mortar Jul 8, 2021, 7:59 AM

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does anchorage give shield to herself only?

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:59 AM

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crude mortar Jul 8, 2021, 7:59 AM

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it doesn;t say give shield to whole vg

spark galleon Jul 8, 2021, 8:00 AM

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https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Ef4y1L7vt skip to 2:30

碧蓝航线4期科研大体阅览_碧蓝航线

crude mortar Jul 8, 2021, 8:00 AM

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spark galleon Jul 8, 2021, 8:00 AM

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Anchorage has a preload in her little practice sim thing

light crystal Jul 8, 2021, 8:00 AM

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Ok

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Priority set then

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OwariWOKE

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 8:01 AM

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dim wins

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POG

covert swallow Jul 8, 2021, 8:01 AM

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thank you

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 8:02 AM

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crude mortar

wtf shitty miboyo game

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in my wholesome manjuu chat

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terifrownarms

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 8:03 AM

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Is that a su*cide reference NimiPing

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 8:03 AM

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no

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HoSWTF

waxen lion Jul 8, 2021, 8:08 AM

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dull hollow dim wins

as if CN was ever fully right in anything

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 8:13 AM

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well dim's been wrong before as well so it was pretty much up in the air

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glad that she got her preload tho

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InaNod

lime folio Jul 8, 2021, 8:58 AM

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Lmao

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Back to IJN chad

flint python Jul 8, 2021, 8:59 AM

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DunktsukiStare

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 9:19 AM

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AlbaDoubt

trail temple Jul 8, 2021, 9:25 AM

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You can do that

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In fact I'll promote it to everyone for you

light crystal Jul 8, 2021, 9:41 AM

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The deciding factor for her being Tier 0-1 was always going to be whether she had a true Preloaded airstrike or not. So as-is, she's Tier 1.5-3 at best.

karmic forum Jul 8, 2021, 11:44 AM

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Is this confirmed?

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 12:19 PM

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You didn't see my later comment?
At the time apparently MP fired both barrage so it is 9+3
Not sure if changed now, I don't think so?

karmic forum Jul 8, 2021, 12:22 PM

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Dim still has the original numbers including the cross-fleet barrage on S1

flint python Jul 8, 2021, 12:22 PM

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karmic forum Jul 8, 2021, 12:25 PM

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elder crane You didn't see my later comment? At the time apparently MP fired both barrage so...

I must have missed it

forest lake Jul 8, 2021, 12:30 PM

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how good is suzu in dealing with the meta?

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is her smoke too slow

uncut agate Jul 8, 2021, 12:30 PM

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She's good

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 12:30 PM

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It times well against preload

forest lake Jul 8, 2021, 12:31 PM

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ic

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i was thinking anchorage would be good for the meta

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pair up with agir and azuma to delibrately slow down the fleet so they stay in the smoke

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 12:32 PM

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She definitely has potential

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Requires some testing first

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Agir azuma is asking to get blasted by torps

forest lake Jul 8, 2021, 12:32 PM

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hopefully 40% eva rate helps

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or perhaps marco polo can help with that

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 12:35 PM

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I'd rec JdA over one of the others or NJ 10 s barrage can wreck that

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Especially since all med/heavy means SHS portion can nuke too

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 12:36 PM

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Yeah nj barrage melts slow vgs

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 1:15 PM

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Exactly
But I guess Anchorage fast torp can cover NJ normal reload and then JdA can cover 10 s barrage

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Doesn't seem completely unreasonable

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 1:19 PM

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So new meta vanguard is immunity and smokescreens? YorkBruh

flint python Jul 8, 2021, 1:26 PM

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Stalling PortDoll

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 1:35 PM

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candid sluice So new meta vanguard is immunity and smokescreens? <:YorkBruh:588629709328482325...

I have beeg doubts but I don't think it's unreasonable to try out
Is nothing that has ever been like it that was good so really hard to say

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 1:36 PM

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Yeah looks like that vg has zero damage output lol

thin cosmos Jul 8, 2021, 1:44 PM

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hi everyone long time no see. Since I grew NJ thinking about change team.

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Aq/NJ should be fixed but not sure other 4

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 1:46 PM

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Hi welcome back

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Who are your options?

thin cosmos Jul 8, 2021, 1:48 PM

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italinan torp damage reducing combo or traditional IJN torp+fdg or current suzu/azuma/Juneau +fdg

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 1:49 PM

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Well the two big fleets around now are Italians (Aquila vittorio duca) and mafia (basically Italian with nj Seattle)

thin cosmos Jul 8, 2021, 1:51 PM

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for Italian, what about other3?

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and about mafia?

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 1:51 PM

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Those three are pretty much whole Italian fleet other three you can slot in whoever

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And mafia is literally those three Italians with nj seattle juneau

thin cosmos Jul 8, 2021, 1:52 PM

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so seattle repalced azuma and steal tanking vg

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now I see what's going on there

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 1:53 PM

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You could say that

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How long have you been away for?

thin cosmos Jul 8, 2021, 1:54 PM

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hmm I was here when AQ

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Korean server change meta very slow so veneto and duca almost not seen yet

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 1:55 PM

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You should be the first

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It would make a lot of people upset BiskoLUL

thin cosmos Jul 8, 2021, 1:56 PM

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but aren't they counter for torp?

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no one use torp, then what is good point for reducing torp damage?

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 1:58 PM

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NJ damage resistance and torp bulges

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That’s why Seattle is used now to receive nj buffs and being great ship overall

thin cosmos Jul 8, 2021, 1:59 PM

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the problem is oath((

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some of new meta ships are already 120 without oath and makes me sick

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 2:01 PM

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That’s unfortunate but what can you do YorkBruh

thin cosmos Jul 8, 2021, 2:03 PM

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ok thx for info and I should test my self

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 2:04 PM

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Would definitely be nice to see your testings again

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Especially since I don’t have my own Aquila to test with YorkBruh

thin cosmos Jul 8, 2021, 2:06 PM

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aquila and NJ doesn't need test

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definitely OP

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 2:07 PM

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I meant more like testing fleet compositions with them in it

thin cosmos Jul 8, 2021, 2:08 PM

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aha I see.

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but I have to grow veneto and duca

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 2:09 PM

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They will be quick to raise no worries

thin cosmos Jul 8, 2021, 2:09 PM

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also no good sandbags l

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 2:09 PM

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They’re strong ships regardless

thin cosmos Jul 8, 2021, 2:10 PM

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so plz don't expect videos as before

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 2:11 PM

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No worries we have a lot of time

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Especially with a whole new season of pr

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Speaking of which does kr get that update?

thin cosmos Jul 8, 2021, 2:12 PM

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I don't know when

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 2:13 PM

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You guys don’t have maintenance right now?

thin cosmos Jul 8, 2021, 2:14 PM

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yes!

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only helena meta come in this week

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 2:15 PM

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Wow you guys are way behind

thin cosmos Jul 8, 2021, 2:15 PM

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😩

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 2:20 PM

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btw would be interesting to test out suitorps with mafia

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yes the standard comp has a good amount of torp red built in

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and yes the setup so far seems to work anyways

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jun naga duca or duca naga seattle etc idk what ends up optimal for that

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 2:22 PM

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Does uss have any torp botes

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 2:25 PM

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no
that's an option too
just screw it and go full torps
sounds sketch though

thin cosmos Jul 8, 2021, 2:26 PM

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so what you want to test is torp can overcome torp reduction?

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 2:27 PM

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nah the idea behind suitorps is that in this kind of meta, vanguard survivability maybe doesn't matter so much
as in NJ/VV just guns down anything anyways

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so if can trade off excess survivability for some other impact, could be good

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torps still do a fair bit of dmg despite the reductions
is better than pushing through a higher HP seattle or whatnot who still just dies to secondaries anyways while not doing much, is the idea

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aurora is another thing I was considering

thin cosmos Jul 8, 2021, 2:31 PM

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I see what you are saying

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and it's quite obvious so I thought it was already tested

elder crane Jul 8, 2021, 2:33 PM

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it was tested with italians but I don't see anyone testing it with mafia

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last time something like this was run was back in WaSD meta so PortDoll

thin cosmos Jul 8, 2021, 2:36 PM

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what about auxi for back line?

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2 aggressive or evasion return?

crude mortar Jul 8, 2021, 2:39 PM

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double agressive gear?

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https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-do-that-here-black-panther-tchalla-bruce-gif-16558003

Tenor

flint python Jul 8, 2021, 2:43 PM

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EntyLUL

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 2:54 PM

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wdym

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that's the only gear i use on my back

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dps only

bright helm Jul 8, 2021, 3:27 PM

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Why did I get 13 rank points and not +15 if my opponent was 100 lower than me?

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 3:28 PM

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Because you attacked someone lower rank than you

bright helm Jul 8, 2021, 3:32 PM

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He was rank 36 and mine 145

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I even closed the app before attacking

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R28 and I r40, 12 points sadge

delicate owl Jul 8, 2021, 3:39 PM

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oh that's because you're already a captain

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12 is the base points there

bright helm Jul 8, 2021, 3:40 PM

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Thought 15 was for every rank, that makes sense

light crystal Jul 8, 2021, 3:57 PM

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elder crane I'd rec JdA over one of the others or NJ 10 s barrage can wreck that

I think Juneau/Ancho/Seattle would be overall better. Mostly on the grounds that I still want Seattle AA in there. Ancho and JDA bgoth have meh to pitiful AA, and only Juneau for AA carry might not be enough

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Gotta thin down CV airstrikes so Backline doesn't take as much damage from them 🤔

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If it means chancing NJ's 10s barrage with VG, so be it

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 4:19 PM

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"fixed PR rates btw"

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see u all in 10 years

light crystal Jul 8, 2021, 4:31 PM

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Only pvp worthy ships are Ancho and MP anyway UniSip

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Well, the strongest, probably. Interestingly enough, all PR girls from this PR generation have viability this time.

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 4:38 PM

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dull hollow "fixed PR rates btw"

Was that a blue face

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 4:55 PM

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blue face

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august's slow looks like it lines up such that it freezes enemy

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when ryuusei get dropped

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idk if sim stages carry over in practice

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also keep in mind distancing in pvp is rly weird as well

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hmmmm

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but she has no prelaod so i dont see it other than a meme comp

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so is haku a 2 4 4 or 2 4 2 if u go DB focused

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svfrog

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idk how it works

flint sun Jul 8, 2021, 6:21 PM

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is azuma better than seattle in the PVP meta with duca, nj, aquila, etc? who should I focus?>

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(idk if that meta died yet idk lol)

uncut agate Jul 8, 2021, 6:23 PM

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Seattle fs5 is better

upper cove Jul 8, 2021, 7:22 PM

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dull hollow so is haku a 2 4 4 or 2 4 2 if u go DB focused

By slot she's 2/4/3
The middle slot is always dbs, and the first and last are whatever you put in them

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:23 PM

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even tho it says

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+2db

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on her thingy

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svfrog

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i read somewhere that the +2 doesnt affect

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the other slot

upper cove Jul 8, 2021, 7:26 PM

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When it says +2 dbs it's referring to what the slots are at default, and also it has nothing to do with what's in the slot at all from a code perspective AkagiLUL

royal oyster Jul 8, 2021, 7:26 PM

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she's 3/4/2

upper cove Jul 8, 2021, 7:28 PM

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Also ya what vice said, I thought she had +1 tbs for a minute there

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 7:45 PM

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rip the 2 4 4 dream

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haku continues to nosedive out of the tier list

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Dab2

timid current Jul 8, 2021, 7:46 PM

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good 🙂

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 10:10 PM

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dull hollow blue face

I think they fixed purple and gold faces more and actually scaled those print counts

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 10:11 PM

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yuh

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i bought a purple

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it coming in like 3 min

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Prayge

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is it retroactive

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or pr4 only

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 10:11 PM

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Ya I got a gold face done in abt an hour

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Will see if I get the legendary 10 prints

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 10:12 PM

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do any of the PR ships

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grind based off russian fronts

timid current Jul 8, 2021, 10:12 PM

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lmao no

dull hollow Jul 8, 2021, 10:12 PM

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pepeyooooo

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lmao i gues the rainbow gear rate is still a meme then

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 10:16 PM

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I did 30min rigging too kinda disappointing YorkBruh

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Some luccsac in guild has like 4 rainbow db prints tho

candid sluice Jul 8, 2021, 11:14 PM

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@dull hollow yeah gold faces scaled quite a bit

flint sun Jul 9, 2021, 12:22 AM

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wait so what was changed from the usual researches?

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I got like 4 more gold bp's than usual

wooden pendant Jul 9, 2021, 12:22 AM

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alot if u want go to gameplay-help pins for full details

flint sun Jul 9, 2021, 12:25 AM

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wat dis

dull hollow Jul 9, 2021, 12:41 AM

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6 bp

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keqcopium

candid sluice Jul 9, 2021, 1:27 AM

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Much better than the 3-4 I usually get YorkBruh

dull hollow Jul 9, 2021, 6:23 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458485823587876877/862941723599306772/Screenshot_20210709-022208.jpg

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my poor fluffyrage

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fkin macro polo bias

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im going to bed on a purple research for her too

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MonaSigh_therues98

mint hornet Jul 9, 2021, 6:50 AM

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KawaPat

flint sun Jul 9, 2021, 9:10 AM

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Uh? I understand the first half of this comp

candid sluice Jul 9, 2021, 9:11 AM

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Wife

upper cove Jul 9, 2021, 10:11 AM

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booba

dull hollow Jul 9, 2021, 7:15 PM

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my life rn

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/587495729224744991/863133094228131860/unknown.png

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light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 7:23 PM

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dull hollow

I'm intending to get both Ancho and MP to try out 🤔

dull hollow Jul 9, 2021, 7:23 PM

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see when i am 0:343

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light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 7:25 PM

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YorkBruh

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I've been spamming some Cubesearch here and there

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I really don't like it that the D700's dont give random BP's anymore, I liked it the way before more tbh

dull hollow Jul 9, 2021, 7:27 PM

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im pretty convinced

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overall BP progress

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will be slower this season

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becasue no more randsom

light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 7:27 PM

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I agree

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Because regular Cubesearch is still random, you're incentivized to do more of those in order to increase BP rates overall. I've got the cubes for that, like lots of other do, but the main issue is they don't give equip BP's, so u fall behind on those now

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Before, u could just do D research, get good source of both girl and equip BP's, but not anymore

worldly cape Jul 9, 2021, 7:54 PM

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I realized Independence Retrofit isn't too reliable when attacking because most of the time her barrage torps spawn right behind the enemy vanguard

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Does she still slap hard? Yes

timid current Jul 9, 2021, 7:59 PM

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all attack cvs derp like that

karmic forum Jul 9, 2021, 8:14 PM

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worldly cape I realized Independence Retrofit isn't too reliable when attacking because most...

Thats an offense problem unfortunately

dull hollow Jul 9, 2021, 8:17 PM

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it's ok the wyverns will bully the backline for 2.2-3k+

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depending on what target they hit

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SuzunaDerp

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wait it actaully shows you the launch speed now

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since when

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wonder if we can time august memes

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for pvp then

uncut agate Jul 9, 2021, 8:31 PM

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it's been showing launch speed for a very long time now

dull hollow Jul 9, 2021, 8:41 PM

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yuiso3

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til

light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 8:47 PM

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Yeah, Cubesearch is the way to go. RIP getting equips done tho ♿

dull hollow Jul 9, 2021, 8:51 PM

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ive got a

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10 cub research queued

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let's see here it leads

mint hornet Jul 9, 2021, 9:14 PM

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FumizukiCross

sour oasis Jul 9, 2021, 9:44 PM

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It leads here ||🪦||

sour oasis Jul 9, 2021, 9:45 PM

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light crystal Yeah, Cubesearch is the way to go. RIP getting equips done tho ♿

~~Just whale~~

dull hollow Jul 9, 2021, 9:50 PM

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which one hits harder

dull hollow Jul 9, 2021, 9:50 PM

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mint hornet <:FumizukiCross:588629686381182978>

i have 1.1k cubes

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Sleeperi

mint hornet Jul 9, 2021, 9:51 PM

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fair

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I saw a pic of one that dropped 7 prints?
only two of which were DR
SiriusCry

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/849877520899244032.png?v=1

light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 9:57 PM

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sour oasis ~~Just whale~~

How would whaling solve the issue?

candid sluice Jul 9, 2021, 10:11 PM

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What’s the drop table of G projects

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U could get both ship and equip prints from them

light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 10:14 PM

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U mean the non faced ones?

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Could be a strat

candid sluice Jul 9, 2021, 10:15 PM

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Yeah that’s what I’m thinking

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Since those should still drop prints from multiple ships

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D projects only drop for the ship face on it

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So if u wanted to complete the whole season u would need to take a variety of Ds

light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 10:18 PM

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I like it more the old way

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Should've given us the choice to have this new assortment, or the previous one tbh

candid sluice Jul 9, 2021, 10:19 PM

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Yeah I kinda prefer old too but I can see where devs were coming from with the change

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U can blame those players whining abt pr grind for the changes YorkBruh

dull hollow Jul 9, 2021, 10:43 PM

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so

tangentially related to my ticonderga adventures in 12-4

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a solo kizuna ai at level 116 can kill the 12-4 boss too

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atpRtsd

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time to use kizuna ai in pvp

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conformed

light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 10:47 PM

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candid sluice U can blame those players whining abt pr grind for the changes <:YorkBruh:588629...

I think new change encourages Cubesearch for optimal speed. My take is also they just wanted a Cube sink lol

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Which is fair, but muh equips Wotspite

candid sluice Jul 9, 2021, 10:50 PM

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I mean cube sinking was the fastest way with or without the changes

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And yea no equipment blows

dull hollow Jul 9, 2021, 10:54 PM

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light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 10:54 PM

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But the current changes incentivise even more Cubesearch than before tho

dull hollow Jul 9, 2021, 10:54 PM

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10 cube seems

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haroldE

light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 10:55 PM

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Maybe I should just be prioritizing Cubesearch then

dull hollow Jul 9, 2021, 10:55 PM

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Eh

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Dev 30 is one time

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Gear is forever

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I stick to coins

light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 10:55 PM

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🤔

dull hollow Jul 9, 2021, 10:56 PM

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Esp since rumor that the db also intercept

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Like wyvern

light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 10:56 PM

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But the thing is getting advtange early for peeveepee

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You're here, u should know of the tryhard ways DunktsukiStare

dull hollow Jul 9, 2021, 10:56 PM

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If u want pvp

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Coin make even more sense

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Always grab the face of big fluffy

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Or marco

light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 10:57 PM

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There doesnt seen to be anything critical other than the planes tho

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And I already got my AQL with 3 planes +13

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So eh

dull hollow Jul 9, 2021, 10:57 PM

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The rockets fighter can also make splash

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Last pr3 i did lots of cube

Tho mostly coz purple gold coins research

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So bad

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So u take blue or purple to shuffle

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chance at drek

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This one idt i will spam cube

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Will spam purple non face

light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 10:58 PM

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🤔

dull hollow Jul 9, 2021, 10:58 PM

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light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 10:58 PM

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I've been spamming Q's as much as possible

dull hollow Jul 9, 2021, 10:58 PM

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Idk what the letters mean

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I never pay attention

light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 10:59 PM

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So far

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Q's are the 1/2/4h Research u pay plates for

elder crane Jul 9, 2021, 11:17 PM

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light crystal I think Juneau/Ancho/Seattle would be overall better. Mostly on the grounds that...

Juneau with Anchorage is mmmm idk, might take too long to die
Also the idea was slow ships to stay in smoke, and being able to rudder
Trailing Seattle there is defs at risk being hit since Anchorage has CA speed so team can't reliably dodge stuff and yet 2 CL is fast enough that they'll leave smoke

light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 11:18 PM

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The issue is you still want AA on ur VG, to tank Airstrikes with

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This is why I've been thinking Imma drop VV, cuz she just doesn't tank well. I'm going to test MP and see how well she does. Alternatives are WK, FDG and maybe even Amagi.

elder crane Jul 9, 2021, 11:20 PM

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Meh
Aquila is only 1/3
And if vs indep-an essex, I don't think that setup is good period, if that team is good you'd run something else

light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 11:21 PM

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Regardless wut u do, AQL is needed. NJ also, for DPS. Then that leaves the third ship. MP, FDG, WK and Amagi are th current contenders I'm thinking about

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Perseus deletion ability will increase now because of the new Fighters

elder crane Jul 9, 2021, 11:22 PM

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If 2 BB is the meta then AA is not super critical
Aquila only represent 1/3 of the dmg at best anyways

light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 11:22 PM

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I think you still want to have good AA

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Well, the new planes look really good tho

elder crane Jul 9, 2021, 11:22 PM

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Aquila 4/8 slots are still wyvern

light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 11:22 PM

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So u probably would want to want to defend against those

elder crane Jul 9, 2021, 11:23 PM

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DB is only in 6 months pretty much

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And german fighter is maybe nice but only 2 lower eff planes

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WarShrug

light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 11:24 PM

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Perseus is gonna be a real nuke with them + Wyverns now

elder crane Jul 9, 2021, 11:24 PM

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Plus with steath AA helps much less

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Percy is maybe interesting again yeah, we'll see

light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 11:24 PM

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Ancho should counter against that

elder crane Jul 9, 2021, 11:24 PM

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But idk if delete vanguard matters much these days

light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 11:24 PM

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So the dynamic will be interesting

elder crane Jul 9, 2021, 11:24 PM

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Which german fighter is only good for that

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Is my main concern about anchorage
Yes can survive longer as vanguard
And then?
Med armor doesn't survive much more vs BB secs either

light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 11:26 PM

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Ancho + new planes will change the meta for sure

elder crane Jul 9, 2021, 11:26 PM

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Anchorage is good probably but doesn't change how team works I think

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Is still going to be issue that vanguard pushed through with more HP, and then... what exactly WarShrug
Current experience points to it not being a massive deal

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Unless can somehow leverage it

light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 11:28 PM

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The team that loses their VG first is at a major disadvantage

elder crane Jul 9, 2021, 11:28 PM

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That was the idea with Azuma Agir since both maybe do enough damage to matter

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In current meta? Not that much

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Cause secs gun down stuff real fast

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2 Half HP stall vanguard ships worth less than I'd say 20% HP each on main

light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 11:29 PM

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Well, bulking up Backline survivability is alsp a pressing issue for me

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Which is why I'm eyeing MP, FDG, and Amagi. WK is WK, focused DPS.

elder crane Jul 9, 2021, 11:30 PM

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Honestly ykkz is pretty reasonable for just that
Although I still think is chance for suicide vg to be good a la WaSD meta

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Problem w Amagi is she literally does no dmg by today standard esp without Nagato or 4 IJN

light crystal Jul 9, 2021, 11:31 PM

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I tried YKKZ before, it did not improve WR against Mafia. I tested it about 10-20 times on same Mafia fleet.

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Also tried Amagi and YKKZ

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Like u said, Amagi's DPS is an issue

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So I'm banking my money more on the other 3 BB's... I could run AQL/Perseus/NJ, but running preload like that is not my style, so eh

thin cosmos Jul 9, 2021, 11:36 PM

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my question is without VG, our team can stand 1 attack?

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as I see very hard to stand 20s attack

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13 gears dps just insane

flint python Jul 10, 2021, 12:20 AM

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The kms rocket plane doesn't intercept? MutsukiCurse

dull hollow Jul 10, 2021, 1:27 AM

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Jesus purple LOOOOL

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Ok game is still a scam

candid sluice Jul 10, 2021, 1:30 AM

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YorkBruh

covert swallow Jul 10, 2021, 1:54 AM

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is it possible to get 1bp from a purple? because pre pr4 changes I was getting purple drake researches that only gave 1bp all the time

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2bp isn't that bad

mint hornet Jul 10, 2021, 2:05 AM

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Haven't seen a 1bp purple so far (or anyone raging about it)

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Min might be 1 2 3 for DR

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I've heard 2 2 3 for Pr

candid sluice Jul 10, 2021, 2:07 AM

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2 min for blue now? Damn

dull hollow Jul 10, 2021, 4:11 AM

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atdan 1v9

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lmao howtf she scum so much damage

flint sun Jul 10, 2021, 4:19 AM

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Healing aquila = Aqheala
Preload aquila = Aquila
GlowNaruhodo

flint python Jul 10, 2021, 5:36 AM

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AkillA LeanderEhh

candid sluice Jul 10, 2021, 6:14 AM

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Trust in atdan supremacy

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Feet will carry you

radiant brook Jul 10, 2021, 7:58 AM

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covert swallow is it possible to get 1bp from a purple? because pre pr4 changes I was getting p...

Blue/purple/gold guarantees 1/2/3 respectively now

flint sun Jul 10, 2021, 4:34 PM

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With speculation of the skills, do any of the new PR ships seem like a potential change to PVP meta?
Aquila meta ded yet?

waxen dawn Jul 10, 2021, 4:39 PM

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Aquila is not going anywhere anytime soon but Anchorage might change things up a bit.

flint sun Jul 10, 2021, 4:40 PM

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Mmm I see

light crystal Jul 10, 2021, 5:53 PM

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They all have PvP potential tbh, but yes, Ancho the easiest to adopt into current comps.

slender tartan Jul 10, 2021, 5:56 PM

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good aux's for yukikaze(pvp ofc)?(i have slapped whatever i found on her). also aquilla needs the 2 CV aux's from core shop or she gonna be fine with steam catapult?

light crystal Jul 10, 2021, 6:15 PM

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You probably wanted either Aviation Tank or JetFuel on her, so her planes don't all just die.

slender tartan Jul 10, 2021, 6:21 PM

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ty

dull hollow Jul 10, 2021, 6:24 PM

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candid sluice Feet will carry you

im feeling it

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now we wait for a proper feet skin

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garnteed to improve her damage by 5%

candid sluice Jul 10, 2021, 10:32 PM

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BLESS ATDAN

sour oasis Jul 11, 2021, 12:27 AM

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candid sluice Feet will carry you

You know that statement is true outside of atDan.

timid current Jul 11, 2021, 12:55 AM

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not if you play al all day and never get up to walk

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PepeKek

sour oasis Jul 11, 2021, 3:03 AM

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~~Then the EMTs will carry your corpse out~~

dull hollow Jul 11, 2021, 4:27 AM

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shinano buffs when

dull hollow Jul 11, 2021, 5:09 AM

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6th wyvern when

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So i can run this in pvp

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YoimiyaWheeze

trail temple Jul 11, 2021, 5:15 AM

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ThonkEyes

light crystal Jul 11, 2021, 5:27 AM

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DunktsukiStare

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~~Triple CV in PvP, imagine that~~

candid sluice Jul 11, 2021, 5:30 AM

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if only planes could intercept preload

dull hollow Jul 11, 2021, 7:11 AM

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well this is awkward

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see u in 10 years

trail temple Jul 11, 2021, 7:42 AM

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kekprise

brazen socket Jul 11, 2021, 2:18 PM

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How likely is anchorage gonna be meta?

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In pvp

flint python Jul 11, 2021, 2:19 PM

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yes BuckyPride

radiant brook Jul 11, 2021, 2:19 PM

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Few months from now to find out

candid sluice Jul 11, 2021, 2:28 PM

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Potential

ebon kraken Jul 11, 2021, 3:54 PM

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Plebcorn

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Inb4 "4/4 ~~torp meme~~ anchorage cancer"

elder crane Jul 11, 2021, 6:16 PM

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Is fundamentally limited in how cancer she is unless returns to CV meta

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Although maybe it really kills off 2/3 CV teams

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If you run 2 BB, then secondaries will kill fairly fast anything pushing through
So unlikely Anchorage doing so is major advantage, since she's not a torp boat or anything

light crystal Jul 11, 2021, 6:25 PM

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inb4 the actual true future is KMS PrinzLaugh

dull hollow Jul 11, 2021, 8:40 PM

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jp keeps setting these fkin useless bling fleets

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inde ate them for breakfast as usual

crude mortar Jul 11, 2021, 9:03 PM

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new jersey was a mistake tbh

light crystal Jul 11, 2021, 9:24 PM

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Not really, it's pushed ppl from using the same ol boring IJN Cv comps

dull hollow Jul 11, 2021, 9:53 PM

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im pretty sure

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aquila did that

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YoimiyaL

candid sluice Jul 11, 2021, 9:55 PM

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Aquila was the mistake YorkBruh

crude mortar Jul 11, 2021, 9:55 PM

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both

light crystal Jul 11, 2021, 10:05 PM

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Then by that logic, IJN CV's were a mistake, Wyverns were a mistake, Amagi was a mistake, WK was a mistake, Juneau was a mistake... Do u see a pattern here? Just adapt to meta with better meta and move on DunktsukiStare

crude mortar Jul 11, 2021, 10:30 PM

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yes

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all of them are mistake

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sandbagging system is also mistake

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azur lane was a mistake

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/540426432635994134/862112466858541066/ezgif-1-c726a2e4ac90.gif

light crystal Jul 11, 2021, 11:03 PM

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You were a mistake, the internet was a mistake, anime was a mistake, humans were a mistake BuckyPride

timid current Jul 11, 2021, 11:49 PM

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pepehands

dull hollow Jul 11, 2021, 11:54 PM

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everything is a mistake

just be grumpy

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475414043348172811/862111728615424000/ezgif-1-cc19abba32f8.gif

spark galleon Jul 12, 2021, 12:10 AM

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Pvp was a mistake

solid phoenix Jul 12, 2021, 12:47 AM

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Hey, I was wondering: Why is the current meta fleet of VV/NJ/Aqui mainly using VV as Flagship?

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AFAIK both VV and NJ's barrages are indifferent of flagship position, but NJ has more health and a tiny bit more EVA than VV

trail temple Jul 12, 2021, 12:51 AM

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Personal preference

dull hollow Jul 12, 2021, 12:55 AM

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Reject virgin veneto

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Embrace chad independence

light crystal Jul 12, 2021, 12:59 AM

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Not so much personal, but it is tactical. FS tends to get pounded hardest, so you'd naturally want to have NJ be on safest spot to farm the most damage.

elder crane Jul 12, 2021, 1:00 AM

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VV is the most expendable pretty much

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Both as in actually and on aux slots

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Plus CL secondary range things

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I've swapped to 457 FdG instead and it's been hmm hmm
Not really sure about it
Suicide vanguard so far works exactly as expected though
Although it doesn't really seem to be better vs top mirror-esque setups, at least on offense
Well at least I get quicker matches, I think

candid sluice Jul 12, 2021, 1:03 AM

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also cl aux longer range over dd aux so vitt mid

elder crane Jul 12, 2021, 1:04 AM

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Yep, DD gun doesn't reach anyways but CL gun ranges better from center

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Is mostly though that VV weakest overall and also since preload, is less critical to keep alive than NJ

solid phoenix Jul 12, 2021, 1:09 AM

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Aight good to know, thanks

flint sun Jul 12, 2021, 1:50 AM

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If I use Duca in pvp, would fdg or some other kid still be better than vv?

elder crane Jul 12, 2021, 2:25 AM

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that's the question rn

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doesn't seem to be anything significantly better at least

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appears to be minor upgrades atm if at all

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plus if you're going to use FdG then you'll probably want 2 457 so... yeah

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although if you saved up proto data or went for it maybe you do have that

sour oasis Jul 12, 2021, 4:35 AM

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Any reason to have more than 2 457 for now?

elder crane Jul 12, 2021, 4:35 AM

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for PvE unlikely since Aquila seems unmovable

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with the only serious non-Aquila running USN CV/L anyways

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is quite nice for PvE though

dull hollow Jul 12, 2021, 5:20 AM

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i couldve had

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3

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keqcopium

worldly cape Jul 12, 2021, 8:54 AM

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Inb4 Nagato Retrofit becomes a thing and gives her an "All IJN CVs in sortie get preload" skill

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~~Please don't Manjuu~~

stable dawn Jul 12, 2021, 8:58 AM

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We call that Yamato

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AkagiLUL

candid sluice Jul 12, 2021, 9:08 AM

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you know its gonna happen just a matter of time YorkBruh

flint sun Jul 12, 2021, 10:59 AM

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Would those weird ass looking tanks be better on aquila even in PVE?

distant token Jul 12, 2021, 1:49 PM

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elder crane doesn't seem to be anything *significantly* better at least

what do u think about riche over VV

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and then run sanrui or jeanne over duca or smth

dull hollow Jul 12, 2021, 3:01 PM

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sanrui
in 2021

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YoimiyaWheeze

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anyways

i actaully think

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the non face coins research

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2:30 and 4hr

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might be the overall best rn

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Sleeperi

candid sluice Jul 12, 2021, 3:02 PM

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That what I’ve been saying YorkBruh

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That’s if u want to get prints for all the ships

dull hollow Jul 12, 2021, 3:12 PM

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i guess it's not too surprising coz

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esp the 4hr one

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is the most expensive

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coins vs time

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so it pays the best

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u also get highest chance for rainbow gear

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im pretty sure

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the 1:30 seems like

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huge scam tho

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idk

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never had good days with that pice of shit

candid sluice Jul 12, 2021, 3:39 PM

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I got the majority of my 457 prints from 1.5G so can’t shit on it too much

elder crane Jul 12, 2021, 3:55 PM

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distant token and then run sanrui or jeanne over duca or smth

Richi is basically worse VV with more RNG herself
Sanrui as with all current CA is.... yeah
JdA is pretty solid but doesn't really need Richi to help
At minimum VV buff will matter more

distant token Jul 12, 2021, 3:56 PM

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GlowNaruhodo

flint sun Jul 12, 2021, 7:04 PM

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Would those weird ass looking tanks be better on aquila even in PVE?

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The aviation fuel tanks yeah

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(from the core shop)

sour oasis Jul 12, 2021, 7:48 PM

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Saint Louis is kind of nice in a poverty-stricken FFNF setup (the only kind) if you lack event ships from other factions.

drowsy arrow Jul 12, 2021, 8:05 PM

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Sorry to bother, but is there a detailed guide somewhere for strongest pvp comp including equipment for pvp, with NJ + Aquila + whatever else?

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I've been stuck on IJN comp and been getting crushed. Badly

sour oasis Jul 12, 2021, 8:15 PM

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drowsy arrow Sorry to bother, but is there a detailed guide somewhere for strongest pvp comp ...

~~If you ask, you probably can't afford it.~~
Generally it's Vittorio on flag, NJ and Aquila on the wings. The best use +13 rainbow UR gear (triple 406 mk7, Wyvern, J5N, etc.)
Front line typically stalls; they're not bereft of offense, but you'll be seeing a mix of Noshiro, Azuma, Luigi/Duca, Seattle, Juneau, even Helena.

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But PvP is about rock paper scissors. You don't need a mirror to beat them. Just a bit of luck.

drowsy arrow Jul 12, 2021, 8:16 PM

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Why do I see people use Aquila on flag from time to time?

sour oasis Jul 12, 2021, 8:16 PM

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Variety. It's not a perfect "most efficient" solution.

slender tartan Jul 12, 2021, 8:16 PM

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sour oasis Jul 12, 2021, 8:17 PM

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See. Another variant.

drowsy arrow Jul 12, 2021, 8:17 PM

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So above is with NJ as flag?

slender tartan Jul 12, 2021, 8:17 PM

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just make something like that (this is actually the fleet im building right now)

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not necessary NJ flag

sour oasis Jul 12, 2021, 8:17 PM

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NJ is.. Really really nice.

crimson bear Jul 12, 2021, 8:18 PM

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Anyone already test the affect of PvP bonuses on CBs and AEs? I haven't updated my guide to include those new ships classes yet.

sour oasis Jul 12, 2021, 8:18 PM

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If you have NJ, at 120 (possibly oathed), you almost can't go wrong. You can use poverty PvE equipment, she'll carry you pretty far.

sour oasis Jul 12, 2021, 8:21 PM

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slender tartan

~~Where is your ||troll aux|| elite repair Manjuu~~

slender tartan Jul 12, 2021, 8:23 PM

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XD. im not that guy who uses immortal bird on juneau. in fact i despise her A LOT. but drastic circumstances require, drastic measures so there she goes. getting geared, and upgraded..................... RoonSip (send help)

sour oasis Jul 12, 2021, 8:33 PM

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FumizukiCross MakinaSmug MurmWat ManjuuKnife

light crystal Jul 12, 2021, 9:43 PM

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slender tartan

Noooo

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Bad gun on NJ

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U want 457

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And on VV, u can put Mk7

calm mica Jul 12, 2021, 9:54 PM

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NJ's good with anything, but VV and any preload BB needs an HE gun

waxen lion Jul 12, 2021, 9:56 PM

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slender tartan XD. im not that guy who uses immortal bird on juneau. in fact i despise her A LO...

Haha immortality bird go chirp chirp

candid sluice Jul 12, 2021, 10:34 PM

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flint sun Would those weird ass looking tanks be better on aquila even in PVE?

not really unless you need the speed for a specific purpose, else steam cata is just better

sour oasis Jul 12, 2021, 10:50 PM

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light crystal And on VV, u can put Mk7

What's the difference swapping the guns?

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(My theory is likely recent players have the triple 406.7 as their best option versus the 457)

light crystal Jul 12, 2021, 10:55 PM

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🤔

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Might as well put FDG gun on NJ then if u dont have 457 tbh

dull hollow Jul 12, 2021, 10:56 PM

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run 2 cv and ur bb gun budget is ez

light crystal Jul 12, 2021, 10:56 PM

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She has 100% proc barrage on shelling, and u want to spam it, because it hurts both VG and Backline

dull hollow Jul 12, 2021, 10:56 PM

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~~just need 2 wyvern~~

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idr who said shinano beats mark but

my mark always scores the highest vs the guild boss thing for me

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unless im overkilling it so badly that shinano doesnt get a chance to dps

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KEK

flint sun Jul 12, 2021, 11:03 PM

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slender tartan

UwU same

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I put manjuu on juneau instead of the aa thing

slender tartan Jul 12, 2021, 11:05 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/bird-dancing-birb-gif-20931615

Tenor

flint sun Jul 12, 2021, 11:06 PM

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slender tartan https://tenor.com/view/bird-dancing-birb-gif-20931615

agreed

dull hollow Jul 12, 2021, 11:25 PM

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these days manjuu seems like bad deal on junny

she takes a while to die as is

running yukikaze seems pretty self sabotage to me but idk

once i tasted the double invulnerability birnghamham meme i cant go back

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it's too funny

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CryQin

sour oasis Jul 12, 2021, 11:26 PM

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BuckyPride

dull hollow Jul 12, 2021, 11:27 PM

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like when i ran manjuu on junny i had so many battles where

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she dies last

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and im like

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"yes very useful thank you"

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with preload as it is rn it's generally unlikely

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that junny's heal gets wasted anymore

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coz ur gonna take a good chunk of damage in first 5s

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10, if vs enenmy nj

sour oasis Jul 12, 2021, 11:29 PM

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~~0s if people still torpedo meme~~

dull hollow Jul 12, 2021, 11:31 PM

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yeah that was the usecase before coz

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it let her absorb torps

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but nowadays good preload comps just dumpster most torp memers anyway

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full torp def is still funny tho

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coz it has the highest alpha potential

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meaning no matter how good of a comp you attack with

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there is always a slim chance

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the torp guy auto wins

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coz of rng and torp placements

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keqL

candid sluice Jul 13, 2021, 12:14 AM

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ya manjuu jun might be too slow now with nj and anchovy YorkBruh

flint sun Jul 13, 2021, 3:22 AM

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hm, AA it is I guess

trail temple Jul 13, 2021, 5:29 AM

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Omg, almost lost

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Musashisweat

meager valley Jul 13, 2021, 5:40 AM

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almost lost Amagiweird

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don't you have a manjuu on her

trail temple Jul 13, 2021, 5:42 AM

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Nah, I wouldn't do that

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(look at the commanders)

candid sluice Jul 13, 2021, 5:53 AM

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YorkBruh

light crystal Jul 13, 2021, 6:14 AM

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trail temple Omg, almost lost

Now do have fun doing the same against me, Hamaal, Kaine, Adolfo, and Chinese name guy BuckyPride

meager valley Jul 13, 2021, 6:41 AM

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and do your mom YorkBruh

light crystal Jul 13, 2021, 6:42 AM

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Were u always green here? DunktsukiStare

terse birch Jul 13, 2021, 6:42 AM

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murmkek

meager valley Jul 13, 2021, 6:42 AM

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im green as of today kainegei

light crystal Jul 13, 2021, 6:43 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/814081515448565812.gif?v=1

meager valley Jul 13, 2021, 6:43 AM

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thought it would be a good idea to get the role since changing the PvP mechanics page wasn't exactly a small change...

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i doubled checked the info for ALM's PvP guide and it turns out everyone was wrong about the incoming/outgoing damage mods on ships

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maybe they changed BMs at some point

light crystal Jul 13, 2021, 6:46 AM

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🤔

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I'm interested in Agir. Does the CB have special mods in PvP as well? DunktsukiStare

meager valley Jul 13, 2021, 6:47 AM

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tldr CBs have CA mods, AEs have DD mods.

light crystal Jul 13, 2021, 6:47 AM

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Are they qualified as simply CA's?

meager valley Jul 13, 2021, 6:47 AM

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so AEs can be really fucking tanky ConcernFroge

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we just need a busted one ig

light crystal Jul 13, 2021, 6:47 AM

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AE?

meager valley Jul 13, 2021, 6:48 AM

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Munition Ship

#

ie Kashino

light crystal Jul 13, 2021, 6:48 AM

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🤔

candid sluice Jul 13, 2021, 6:50 AM

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wtf did u contribute in wiki drako YorkBruh

meager valley Jul 13, 2021, 6:51 AM

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NO

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i just asked and they game a random person the role

light crystal Jul 13, 2021, 6:52 AM

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They game random persons.

candid sluice Jul 13, 2021, 6:54 AM

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they giving wiki role to anyone? YorkBruh

meager valley Jul 13, 2021, 6:55 AM

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YorkBruh

candid sluice Jul 13, 2021, 6:55 AM

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you should upload your pvp guide to wiki

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then maybe ppl will stop losing to aquila

meager valley Jul 13, 2021, 6:56 AM

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i don't have a PvP guide WorryThink

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EN wouldn't read it anyway PepeLaugh

candid sluice Jul 13, 2021, 6:58 AM

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doesnt cn wiki have a pvp guide

meager valley Jul 13, 2021, 6:58 AM

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ChenShrug

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ig EN uses the ECTL instead Akagikek

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with the 2020 PvP guide

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~~i can't believe 2020 was last year~~

candid sluice Jul 13, 2021, 6:59 AM

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that thing still lists nagato amagi as a fleet YorkBruh

radiant brook Jul 13, 2021, 7:00 AM

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ALM is busy and he is the sole person working on the guide

candid sluice Jul 13, 2021, 7:00 AM

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YorkBruh

radiant brook Jul 13, 2021, 7:00 AM

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All but one of the evals are not interested in pvp

candid sluice Jul 13, 2021, 7:00 AM

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hes got an entire channel to help him out

meager valley Jul 13, 2021, 7:00 AM

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YorkBruh

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AoTNs can't make a guide

leaden sky Jul 13, 2021, 7:01 AM

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Why dont u guys make a team for pvp too

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Like ectl harold

candid sluice Jul 13, 2021, 7:01 AM

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the few braincells that top10 can tho YorkBruh

meager valley Jul 13, 2021, 7:01 AM

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top10 is allergic

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DunktsukiStare

ebon kraken Jul 13, 2021, 7:01 AM

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A guide for pvp

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PepeKekLUL

meager valley Jul 13, 2021, 7:02 AM

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thistbh

candid sluice Jul 13, 2021, 7:02 AM

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does kaine still do his guide

leaden sky Jul 13, 2021, 7:02 AM

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kekDisco

candid sluice Jul 13, 2021, 7:02 AM

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i remember andy made one too

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just make a "how to not lose to aquila" guide then we good YorkBruh

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no one moving cus they all lose

meager valley Jul 13, 2021, 7:09 AM

#

how to not lose to Aquila 101

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don't play PvP Yep

leaden sky Jul 13, 2021, 7:18 AM

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meager valley how to not lose to Aquila 101

Just refresh bro

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harold

light crystal Jul 13, 2021, 7:25 AM

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Just use good AA core to tank preload with, and good DPS to kill afterwards DunktsukiStare

meager valley Jul 13, 2021, 7:41 AM

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WorryThink

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just win PepeLaugh

radiant brook Jul 13, 2021, 7:52 AM

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Just don't bother with PvP unless you get that Uber OP PvP character from an event

sour oasis Jul 13, 2021, 8:11 AM

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"PvP was a mistake"

meager valley Jul 13, 2021, 8:14 AM

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stable dawn Jul 13, 2021, 8:35 AM

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isn't that like every pvp game though

meager valley Jul 13, 2021, 8:37 AM

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WorryThink

light crystal Jul 13, 2021, 8:38 AM

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Have you seen the Duel Arena in RS? AkagiLUL

trail temple Jul 13, 2021, 9:57 AM

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candid sluice i remember andy made one too

On the backburner because meta change and pr4, kinda threw everything out the door

grizzled hemlock Jul 13, 2021, 12:29 PM

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meager valley how to not lose to Aquila 101

just use triple BB

waxen lion Jul 13, 2021, 5:29 PM

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light crystal Have you seen the Duel Arena in RS? <:AkagiLUL:531988392699887616>

sand casino

drowsy arrow Jul 13, 2021, 5:31 PM

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What's the next best thing besides Wyvern for Aquila pvp?

waxen lion Jul 13, 2021, 5:32 PM

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yes

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get wyvern

slender tartan Jul 13, 2021, 5:40 PM

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probably a golden barracuda or a ryuusei will be good enough untill you can get your hands on a wyvern.

dull hollow Jul 13, 2021, 7:20 PM

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spend all ur money on august torpedo meme

#

keqL

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rockets*

dull hollow Jul 13, 2021, 7:47 PM

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has anyone

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tried the bismarck reduction meme

waxen lion Jul 13, 2021, 7:48 PM

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Don't

meager valley Jul 13, 2021, 8:04 PM

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dull hollow rockets*

12/25 rn ConcernFroge

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im doing my best

dull hollow Jul 13, 2021, 8:14 PM

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waxen lion Don't

but i want to see the 1 damage secondaries

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keql

flint python Jul 14, 2021, 12:22 AM

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How do I gear vanguard if only 1 black torp

candid sluice Jul 14, 2021, 12:35 AM

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dont use torpmeme YorkBruh

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blacktorp teatorp noshi and magtorps other two ig

flint python Jul 14, 2021, 12:35 AM

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I'm asking for gear only YorkBruh

meager valley Jul 14, 2021, 12:39 AM

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flint python How do I gear vanguard if only 1 black torp

you don't

spark galleon Jul 14, 2021, 12:40 AM

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For torpmeme to work you really have to go all out

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If you half-ass it it just won’t work

flint python Jul 14, 2021, 12:41 AM

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I just wanna level Noshiro in pvp

candid sluice Jul 14, 2021, 12:43 AM

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just magtorp her YorkBruh

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only luigi can get away without blacktorp

light crystal Jul 14, 2021, 12:49 AM

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candid sluice only luigi can get away without blacktorp

🤔

#

Duca works best with Quints tbh

candid sluice Jul 14, 2021, 1:03 AM

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her slow torps make magtorps hit more consistently

light crystal Jul 14, 2021, 1:19 AM

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Hardly, not to mention u lose the ability to have them track after the next torp salvo anyway

radiant brook Jul 14, 2021, 1:30 AM

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Torps are just a bad idea after mafia meta just slaughters light armour teams

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Jintsuu -> Seattle since you have catch up

candid sluice Jul 14, 2021, 1:40 AM

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dude im saying rainbow quint magtorps are good on luigi YorkBruh

light crystal Jul 14, 2021, 1:45 AM

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dude

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I was having an EN moment ok, excuse me

#

BuckyPride

candid sluice Jul 14, 2021, 1:47 AM

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YorkBruh

#

happens to the best of us

light crystal Jul 14, 2021, 1:50 AM

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On that topic today, I had a game earlier where everyone but my 1/3 Duca was dead, she ended up solo'ing 2 IJN CV's thx to said mag torps, it was hilarious BuckyPride

candid sluice Jul 14, 2021, 1:53 AM

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ya ive had times where i had to reset with my 2 carriers against one luigi YorkBruh

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carriers cant do shit against vg in their face

crude mortar Jul 14, 2021, 7:43 AM

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how can you not deleting luigi

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runcer