pvp

[obsidian kite]

10k crit would be ez

With 1 torp

Problem with torp memes is survivability

And if all the torps miss

[vague token]

cant do damage when you're dead

[sour oasis]

🔫

[ripe latch]

2.3k hp and they want more survivability

[vague token]

need MORE

[karmic forum]

This reset is about as dead as the last one

[vague token]

back to back events do that

[karmic forum]

Nobody is even farming the event though

[alpine summit]

in my head cannon

pvp seasons with multiple maints

are more dead

though i think they should be easier to get bonuses if i really think about it

since people have less time to do their matches

...it just never plays out that way for me

[karmic forum]

Lots of people go to 0/10 before maint

If I went to 0/10 id probably skip the next reset

[naive dome]

i get +3 yesterday after maint though

[elder crane]

why do you guys suck so much
(Why you run Hiryuu with torpmemes)

The issue isn't survivability
On average, the sheer ridiculous frontloaded dmg they do makes up for it
I've done the usual nuke-vanguard or main fleet instakill(/proc for Hiryuu)

This though, is the issue

Sometimes everyone just decides to slacc

[upper cove]

I've never seen hiryuu do that much damage in any context

[elder crane]

That's the second time, even more extreme

This was the one I posted a while ago

But hey, Jint actually landed two torps here
And Amagi didn't get blasted by enemy torpmemes, Nagato did instead

[naive dome]

hiryu is good at cleaning up

[elder crane]

Also good at *hard carrying
As long as their vanguard is dead and they don't have a Hiryuu of their own

[upper cove]

My hiryuu always just vibed and did nothing in the end

[elder crane]

Ryuuseis, man

Ryuus

[upper cove]

Cause I didn't run nagato

[elder crane]

Even without Nagato

[upper cove]

Was doing amagi hiryuu warspite

[elder crane]

I've had Hiryuu MVP over 410AP warkai in that team

[upper cove]

And warspite just went yeet before hiryuu had a chance

[elder crane]

457 warkai always MVPs though

It's only ever in the close matches that Hiryuu does this much
Which is fine since only the close matches matter

[upper cove]

When I was running that team I had hiryuu mvp in total twice, and both times it was by like 100 damage

[naive dome]

imo warspite shines against tanky vg, hiryuu shines again squishy vg

[elder crane]

Who cares if you murder them harder
More important to eke out a win

[upper cove]

I'd rather murder harder

Which is why I ditched hiryuu and her useless ass

And slapped in dev30 fdg

[naive dome]

if the fight gets to 1vs1 between fdg and hiryuu, hiryuu pretty much always win though

[upper cove]

Now the only thing that can stand to my backline is 457s and Washington isn't very crowded in that department

Except That's never the case

Cause hiryuu dies like first or second

When I'm attacking at least

[naive dome]

sure, if you're specifically targetting her

[elder crane]

The point is Hiryuu will 1v1 their FdG better than your own FdG will

[upper cove]

Idk why I wouldn't target her

[naive dome]

you wouldn't specifically target fdg, would you?

[upper cove]

Depends on their comp

But I wouldn't go all out like on hiryuu

Probably spread the targetting

[ripe latch]

vg with haloist luck

[quartz scaffold]

[upper cove]

Vibin warkai

[crude mortar]

[lusty phoenix]

can warkai one shot enty?

[proper sorrel]

with enough level advantage yes

if they're more or less equal level, then no

[upper cove]

or with a retarded FP building setup

[proper sorrel]

or try some weird dmg boosting shit

[upper cove]

or getting really lucky with hiei proc

[lusty phoenix]

what Build?

[upper cove]

QE/hyuuga

[lusty phoenix]

will littorio gun Boost DM+ dmg?

[upper cove]

might need to add the FP AA gun and monarch gun

litt gun doesn't effect barrage

[proper sorrel]

why not use twin 457

[upper cove]

imagine having 457

[proper sorrel]

well pheonix has two

[upper cove]

does it look like my name is phoenix?

[lusty phoenix]

does anyone use georgia in pvp?

[upper cove]

no
only way georgia could work is if you nuke the VG out of existence before she fires tbh

[proper sorrel]

yes

[upper cove]

inspect element

[proper sorrel]

[crude mortar]

[ripe latch]

i'm not haloist but his luck always with me

[crude mortar]

may the haloist luck be with you

amen

[ripe latch]

[sour oasis]

[karmic forum]

So what you're saying is that you should use Georgia in torpmemes

[upper cove]

it might just work

[elder crane]

Problem is you need Nagato for torpmemes
And Hiryuu works better than Georgia
And you still probably want Amagi so your fleet doesn't explode too much
Though maybe you could try Georgia> Amagi
Really, what you want is vanguard dead and then it's a drawn out slugfest between the two main fleets
Which is at odds with each other, especially in a post-Azuma world

Or like, ykkz was the OG ship to make trading off vanguards not a very viable strategy anymore

[upper cove]

even if hiryuu works better than georgia

I'd opt to replace her first

[sterile bluff]

imagine if they changed georgia's barrage in pvp so that it always hits the main opposite of her

[crude mortar]

[upper cove]

go torp meme for initial nuke > amagi fast barrage if VG is still there > hoodgun on nagato (with some stupid rng rolling) if the vg is still there > georgia fires

[crude mortar]

imagine if they update pvp

imagine if they remember pvp exists

[sterile bluff]

tbf a lot of barrages are altered for pvp, no reason to not change georgia's

[upper cove]

if you get all the way to georgia firing in that comp and the vg still exists just try a different strat

[crude mortar]

congratz on getting 1 extra pallet on suruga

that deal 500 damage

or less

[upper cove]

huge

[sterile bluff]

i need formi

i desperately need her

[upper cove]

ya that's the alternative
time formi with georgia in pvp

seems like a mega meme strat tho

[sterile bluff]

i need a CV with thicc deck armor

[upper cove]

[ripe latch]

one suruga can block double fire georgia

[upper cove]

I've seen georgia one shot fdg so I'm not sure how suruga will fair if the conditions are right

[sterile bluff]

d0 fdg?

[upper cove]

no like d25

[ripe latch]

[sterile bluff]

lv1 skills?

[ripe latch]

washington stories

[upper cove]

I mean sure it was low rank so I can't say I've truly tested it

[ripe latch]

[crude mortar]

I have d30 georgia

she hit hard

[upper cove]

but considering how much damage came down there I'm gonna say it wasn't a super fluke

[crude mortar]

only if she hit tho

[sterile bluff]

I have d30 georgia
she doesn't hit jack shit

[crude mortar]

90% of the time it just didn

hit

maybe 99%

[sterile bluff]

georgia just rly hates the ocean

[upper cove]

that's cause you aren't doing it right

[sterile bluff]

i don't have formi

[ripe latch]

ws kai can shot georgia , so

[upper cove]

between noshi/jintsuu/yuki and
noshi/ibuki/yuki
which is the better torp meme

[ripe latch]

[upper cove]

georgia's barrage is far more powerful than warkai's
just has way more rng attached to it too

[ripe latch]

its here tested she B - they not hit everyone

[sterile bluff]

inb4 ws 🅱️arrage boost applies to every 🅱️arrage

[upper cove]

if she doesn't target the frontline, georgia's only problem is hit rate tbh

[upper cove]

🅱️

discord pls

between noshi/jintsuu/yuki and
noshi/ibuki/yuki
which is the better torp meme
answer my question

[ripe latch]

on offensive - jintsu
on def - noshi ibuki

[upper cove]

and who gets the rainbow quints

[ripe latch]

if u want sync torps - yuki

[upper cove]

why you keep deleting messages

oh and what kind of aux do I use

I know the 610quad +black torp is a thing but beyond that

[crude mortar]

see

I knew it

[ripe latch]

ez +10

[crude mortar]

no

I cant say b word

[upper cove]

ok so like

beyond the black torp

what else

[ripe latch]

@crude mortar 🇺🇸 🅱️

boilers and oxy + pearl

[upper cove]

so none of the full oxy memes

[ripe latch]

usless full oxy , they not hit everyone

[crude mortar]

even if you delete their vs

[ripe latch]

[crude mortar]

your vg running into their main too fast and get rekt by bb cl gun

[upper cove]

gotta go fast ♿

[ripe latch]

one hidden tactic - 4 boilers + 1 oxy and 3 kms trp can hit main

[upper cove]

aight the goal here is to rack up so much speed that your vg shoots forward and rams the flag and instantly shotguns that ship

[sour oasis]

I like extra boilers. Only damn way I can avoid FdG /torpedo spam these days.

[ripe latch]

extra speed do nothing and enemy vg kill u vg

its works vs comps without juneau as example

[sour oasis]

No. My problem is enemy vg kills my main before they kill my vg. It's

[ripe latch]

maybe u main usless bec they not hit enemy vg?

[sour oasis]

Torp meeeeeemeeeees

[ripe latch]

haloisted

[upper cove]

just don't get hit 🧠

[sour oasis]

Yeah, 🎲 a little unfair when enemy vg can snipe my back ships from beyond aux gun range.

I have to hope my vg runs into them to prevent that. So weird. I kinda almost want to have in my PvP.

[upper cove]

I'm actually gonna test out this georgia thing against good comps

later tho cause moving gears around is gei

[ripe latch]

🧠 someone used she on def with triple gun + double sg, not hit 3 times

may the haloist luck be with u on tests

[upper cove]

I'll be doing double SG but idk about triple gun

[elder crane]

Not sure why you'd triple gun the ship that's entirely about her barrage

[upper cove]

I mean her main gun is actually quite good

[crude mortar]

maybe using that new gun that reload 31s

[upper cove]

but that barrage is

[elder crane]

MGM+1

Nuff said

Especially for PvP

[upper cove]

mgm+1 doesn't mean bad main gun

at all

[elder crane]

It... does though? Not like she has a preload to go with it

[upper cove]

not having a preload is a good argument

[elder crane]

MGM+1 without a preload, sure

[upper cove]

but having high eff with only mgm+1 is kinda normal

[elder crane]

You know what I mean

High eff MGM+1 and no preload is 🚮 for PvP though

And preload isn't standard

So if you don't mention it, it's assumed to not be there

[upper cove]

I didn't say it was

[crude mortar]

where is zack when we needed

[elder crane]

So yes
If you say
MGM+1
And that's it
Assumption is no preload too
And the ship has 🚮 main guns

[upper cove]

[crude mortar]

azur lane pvp channel without zack

[elder crane]

I mean her main gun is actually quite good
@upper cove
Literally you btw

Her guns are 🚮

[upper cove]

which zack

I don't know the pvp legends

[crude mortar]

@elder crane you know your sandard and his standard isn't the same

[elder crane]

Georgia guns aren't even average levels

They're literally in general below average

[crude mortar]

his average is lower than your average

[elder crane]

They're worse than Hood guns

And no one reasonable is going to call Hood's guns good

[upper cove]

aight I'm gonna have to hit you with the on worse than hood's gun

not even the pvp part

just in general

[crude mortar]

but I use hood gun on amagi

[elder crane]

In general among BBs for PvP

[upper cove]

we're talking about actual hood not the equip

[elder crane]

For PvE you can make the time dilation argument

[upper cove]

I mean I can see some arguments against mgm+1 ship in pvp

[ripe latch]

damn , need found she tests again

[elder crane]

Anyways, I'm going to calc Hood's eff mutiplier on dmg for main guns
And it's going to be better than Georgia

I meant in general as in not compared to the top ships

[upper cove]

and I'm going to do the same
and not expect one to win cause I need to find the info

[elder crane]

Even if you include trash like renown and repulse in your average
Georgia guns are below average for PvP

[crude mortar]

mgm +2 >>>mgm+1

[elder crane]

it's literally 50% more dmg on that mutiplier lol

[ripe latch]

#pvp message

ok

zack test

🚮

[crude mortar]

tldr dont use georgia

[upper cove]

you didn't know georgia's barrage could split into 2?

smh

actually I think in the right conditions it can split into 4

[crude mortar]

multi track barrage drifting

[ripe latch]

miss miss miss

[elder crane]

Hood is MGM+2 with 140% eff, backed by 343 base FP
with standard aux gun that's +20, and in PvP you often won't run +FP so I'll ignore that
19.446 total multiplier on gun base dmg
Georgia is MGM+1 with 165% eff, backed by 436 FP
same aux
18.348 total multiplier on gun base dmg
tbh I didn't expect that to be even nearly that close lol
I keep forgetting how shit Hood FP is lol

[upper cove]

and you forgot a really

key

important factor

[elder crane]

Amagi ends up at 22.3155 for comparison

[upper cove]

georgia has another 20% multiplier against every backline that isn't hiryuu

[elder crane]

and she has 45% fast load

[ripe latch]

20%

[upper cove]

10% against hiryuu

[elder crane]

and Amagi has a worse barrage than Georgia

and she still always runs twins

well, maybe not worse than Georgia for PvP lol

[upper cove]

I mean you run amagi for big fast pressure

cause zoom load

[elder crane]

you run her cause her defensive buffs are broken af

[upper cove]

that too

[elder crane]

for dmg she's not that special

[upper cove]

I mean her entire kit is just

turbo charged pvp wackiness

[elder crane]

there's many ships that can do Amagi dmg or better
but she has that insane defensive buff kit with it

[upper cove]

I means it's the mix of adding a defensive kit to a ship that has good damage to begin with

[elder crane]

I'm in the camp that you'd still see amagi without her dmg in many teams

She's used without Nagato, without 4 IJN, and with double defensive aux sometimes

[upper cove]

in the cases where she's full defensive ya it's kinda

but I run her with SG/rudder and she's perfectly capable of getting like 70-80% of warkai/fdg damage on end screen

[elder crane]

wait tf is your shitty-ass warkai setup then

that can't even do over 2x the dmg of amagi without Nagato or 4 IJN

even non-457 Warkai should comfortably do that

[upper cove]

double SG? I guess if she 100% hits her first barrage it skews much more in her favor

but she always misses like one of those 2 shells

[ripe latch]

100%

[karmic forum]

@alpine summit you planning on rushing?

[alpine summit]

i cant make 2200 this reset

but if you want, ill get to +35 for you

[upper cove]

what a bro

[alpine summit]

well, actually, i might be able to get to 2200

its a pretty far way

[elder crane]

even with staag and 2SG, warkai vs rudder+amagi is nearly 10% to miss both of first barrage

[alpine summit]

there are only 2 guys at 219x

[karmic forum]

Seems possible if you wait

[upper cove]

ye missing barrage is common but getting one hit is good

[alpine summit]

ill let you know by 2 hours

if ill rush

[upper cove]

I'll at least compare the numbers more closely when I can attack again, people on my list aren't moving

[alpine summit]

if you dont hear from me, probably sleeping

[karmic forum]

Thanks

[alpine summit]

i missed 5 attacks so, im definitely out of the running

[elder crane]

but still, outside of shit RNG on warkai and god RNG on Amagi, or if you're vs a shitty team that dies too fast, you shouldn't see Amagi near 80% of warkai dmg

I missed like 8 now
+1 yesterday

[alpine summit]

minus 8 gonna make aotn hard

doable, but kinda hard

[upper cove]

she really doesn't lag that far behind from what I've seen
but I don't pay attention every battle

[alpine summit]

oh is it time to turn off my meme fleet too

[upper cove]

ya it's about that time when we start stalling people I'd say

[sour oasis]

"Minus 8" compared to what? @alpine summit

[royal oyster]

if I have 2 5/10 people above me and one who's a +1 if he after he does 5, do I bail or do I hope they're not sleeping?

[alpine summit]

minus 8 attacks lmao

[sour oasis]

That score is from -8??

[alpine summit]

no, my score is from minus 5 attacks

[sour oasis]

It's still only 20 points behind a typical Cay 2600 EoS run, 54 above a pure-rush 2500 EoS run.

AotN is almost guaranteed, but EoS likely 50-100 range.

[elder crane]

-8 is still fairly easy AotN

just not any EoS rank at all

well, mostly cause 7 of them was week 1

it might be -9 btw, I forgot how many I missed week 1

[karmic forum]

What's your current score?

[elder crane]

2063 10/10

when you're below sandbag points, you still get a lot of bonuses in week 2

[alpine summit]

-9 sounds right, if you are 4 attacks behind me missing 5

[elder crane]

I get like +2 a reset still these past days

[karmic forum]

I think top 100 EoS is still possible if you hard sandbag

[elder crane]

well, I still need to AotN rush so no

[karmic forum]

But yeah probsbly just AoTN on Saturday and cya next season

[elder crane]

anyways
pretty sure AotN is still possible if you literally skip the entire first day in a season

full -15 matches

[karmic forum]

Challenge accepted?

[elder crane]

when you're below sandbag rank, you get some insane bonuses even in week 2

[sour oasis]

I did that last season. Missed day 1 (just 10 tickets) and managed to AotN Saturday fairly easily.

[alpine summit]

i dont know how insane insane is

missing 5, i still only get +2 a refresh

[karmic forum]

Ouch I see someone at 2199

[alpine summit]

+3 if im lucky

[elder crane]

usually in week 2 you're lucky to get +1 a reset

[sour oasis]

I would imagine -15 tickets requires super sand bag skills though.

[elder crane]

if you've been full sandbagging normally

so yeah

[karmic forum]

+1 each reset is fairly doable if you know who's reliable

[elder crane]

I don't think you can even average that though, for say, monday-thursday

much less always get a +1

[karmic forum]

+1 is the expected result

[alpine summit]

i just want sky asunder to move

sky is probably a possible +2 for me

[sour oasis]

If you sync your rushes with someone else's ||no collusion|| you can get +1 each refresh.

[elder crane]

mmm, tbh I'd like to see someone do that
enter week 2 with at least +15 over earliest gensui
and then average +1 per reset monday-thursday

I don't think it's possible

[sour oasis]

Hard to match with someone that immediately rushes after a refresh for that elusive +2 bonus.

[karmic forum]

You're bound to hit a +0

[elder crane]

well, without collusion that is

hitting is fine
I just want to average it
so if you +2, you can take a +0

[karmic forum]

The expected value if you're in the lead is a bit under +1

Most of the time you get it

[elder crane]

yep, that's what I mean

[karmic forum]

But you get more +0 than +2 for sure

[elder crane]

it's below +1 per reset on avg

[sour oasis]

Only if you're leading

[elder crane]

so you're lucky to be able to chain +1 per reset for multiple resets

meanwhile
me with my -8 matches

+2 every reset, sometimes +3

and I think one +1

[karmic forum]

Do you get +12 often?

[alpine summit]

dont think you can make up the -80 tho

[elder crane]

no way ofc

[karmic forum]

Because I don't think I've gotten a single +12 last season and this season so far

[elder crane]

but it makes up enough to still be a comfortable AotN rush

[sour oasis]

For top-50 EoS, no. For AotN, yes if it's super early.

[alpine summit]

well, rush is always a thing

if you rush 5 matches in 5 mins

you are at effective -3 only

[sour oasis]

Losing tickets on week 2 is super demoralizing.

[elder crane]

I've done with -90 before, without too much trouble

[alpine summit]

which is definitely very possible

[elder crane]

I also failed one -90 before, but tbf I missed 5 of those matches week 2 that time

missing matches in week 2 is suuuper painful

but anyways
feels like a match missed right at the start, after accounting for extra bonuses, is more like a -5 at worst rather than a full -10

[alpine summit]

i tend to like the overnight reset for my missed matches and need aotn rush

that one i feel has the best chance if you are really behind

[karmic forum]

Depends on how hard you want to work towards recovering

[elder crane]

so I think 15 matches missed right at the start still has a good shot at AotN

[ripe latch]

eos > healthy sleep

[karmic forum]

Famine ended up at 2599 after missing 3 early for example

You can definitely make it up but it will require staying up for each reset

[sour oasis]

I'm just waiting for faceless to rush into top 100 so I can have a +2 (and maybe rush into AotN before next refresh)

[karmic forum]

First gensui rush is pretty slow

[elder crane]

I don't think you need to do any more sandbagging than usual if you already slightly sandbag

[karmic forum]

Second one is where everyone rushes asap

[elder crane]

you just naturally get more/higher bonuses just doing what you already do

yeah, cause the ppl that most want to rush can't hit it this reset yet

[sour oasis]

I just don't like dragging anchor period. I like being at 0/10 whenever possible.

(well, if I didn't -5 tickets on day 2, I might have been able to rush for AotN this refresh)

Rushrushrush 🇷🇺

[alpine summit]

[sour oasis]

Shut up

[ripe latch]

[sour oasis]

[ripe latch]

this guy choose sleep

[sour oasis]

"Sleep is the little fear... It is the death that brings total obliteration. "

Nik a benne gesserit?

[ripe latch]

[sour oasis]

It's a sci-fi thing. Nevermind.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=iyCPQunvoGE

[ripe latch]

[crude mortar]

[ripe latch]

+10

[upper cove]

howe

[crude mortar]

+11 +11 +11 +11

[sour oasis]

And here I am eating +10's like a pleeb.

[crude mortar]

+11+11+11+11

[karmic forum]

Rusher's luck

[upper cove]

how is the score difference so wild over there

[crude mortar]

its gensui rush

you new to pvp?

[royal oyster]

gensui rush on my server is one guy making it to 2197

[sour oasis]

Avrora is Avrora

[karmic forum]

We have multiple gensui rushers as opposed to the one rusher in Washington

[upper cove]

nah I just never paid that much attention

[sour oasis]

We try harder

[upper cove]

also refreshing my list won't give me someone above my rank

despite being rank 129

nvm https://puu.sh/GmM5L/9de239633b.png

[karmic forum]

I've never seen a dead refresh at rank 129

[upper cove]

it kept giving me rank like

[upper cove]

150

I was like bruh

[sour oasis]

[crude mortar]

I need to refresh to get 1-5

[sour oasis]

Dew it

[crude mortar]

[upper cove]

[sour oasis]

Avrora. We try harder. ||Because sleep, what's that?||

[upper cove]

I need rank 1-3 to get bonus

I'm at rank 48

think I can get that reset

[crude mortar]

win from rank 9 to 8

OWARIDA

[upper cove]

https://puu.sh/GmMek/e5c490b83c.png

[ionic magnet]

[ripe latch]

[karmic forum]

No pressure erika

[ripe latch]

erika face

[crude mortar]

do I eat

+9+9+9 and cya next season

its not like eos matter

[ripe latch]

bye bye healthy sleep

[ionic magnet]

[crude mortar]

hello healthy sleep

[ionic magnet]

yus +2 gib

[crude mortar]

im getting +4

and -3

[ripe latch]

[crude mortar]

wtf

+8

[ripe latch]

cya

[crude mortar]

WTF?

[ionic magnet]

[crude mortar]

+9 then +8

what the f

is +8

wxcuse me sir

is it possible to eat +8

im rank8 enemy rank 15

[ionic magnet]

yea 35 pt difference

[crude mortar]

getting +4

then -1 -2 -2

CYA NEXT SS

[ionic magnet]

[crude mortar]

im out

im done getting my 1/6 of purin

gotta repeat this process 5 more times to get the purin

[karmic forum]

Wait hoo

That's not enough for +2

[ionic magnet]

what a sad

[alpine summit]

roomier, the gap between ranks look really sad

[ionic magnet]

[crude mortar]

time to sleep

[ionic magnet]

thanks for rushing tho

[crude mortar]

wtf

did you have me on the list

[alpine summit]

rank 9 is 2199, then 15 below that, and 11 below that, and 10 below that lol

[ionic magnet]

yea lol

[karmic forum]

Do whatever you feel is right

[crude mortar]

[ionic magnet]

look at my first pic

[crude mortar]

rofl

[alpine summit]

i can get you to a +1 pretty easily

[crude mortar]

if I didn't eat -1

you sohuld've get +2

[alpine summit]

want me to go ahead and roll the +1?

[crude mortar]

its -2

[karmic forum]

It's up to you

[storm jewel]

+1 -2 these codes i need to learn to gitgud

[alpine summit]

would have to wait for more people to indulge on getting to 2200

[crude mortar]

next reset not this

normal rusher didn't get 2200 this reset

[alpine summit]

i can basically guarantee 2200

[karmic forum]

Fwiw I think you can reach over 2200 if you rush now and use your refreshes to avoid -2s

[alpine summit]

would have to take more than minus 6 to miss it

[ionic magnet]

thanks rng

68 pt gap this time

[karmic forum]

Still a good result at least

[storm jewel]

are u gonna hit that rank1 hooloo?

[ionic magnet]

ill wait for more ppl to move first

then pray to roll another +1 after

[storm jewel]

[ionic magnet]

its p much a "free refresh" so might as well wait a bit for higher chances of another +1

[shell heron]

I thought I was gonna get a 69 gap

turns out my target had one more to move

+2

[ionic magnet]

[karmic forum]

Comeback Cay is at is again

[ionic magnet]

there it is

[shell heron]

only 10 behind

easy comeback

ok sure. right into r2 for another +2

[crude mortar]

[ripe latch]

[upper cove]

[ripe latch]

anyway +10 so eat

[upper cove]

ah you moved
guess I'll take some bonus points

[ripe latch]

no bonus (same rank)

[sour oasis]

I should have rushed before Kanzaki

[upper cove]

https://puu.sh/GmMR1/c670227669.png

what the fuck

you were 40 ahead of me

[sour oasis]

Gotta ⏳ 4 hours

[alpine summit]

you cant see them since they are off screen

but somehow, i managed to kill warspite first, even though she was opposite warspite

then nagato 2nd, who is center

and amagi last

.....while yuki and noshiro are the only ones alive in that picture

for the enemy

i have no clue what happened this fight with noshiro and yuki surviving longer than the enemy backline

[karmic forum]

All your BB salvos must have went to the backline

[alpine summit]

somehow they killed wsk first too

[sour oasis]

Lucky torpedo swam past their vanguard and critical hit their back?

[ionic magnet]

could also be defensive gears on amagi and offensive on warspite

[alpine summit]

@karmic forum

[karmic forum]

Thanks wife

[alpine summit]

https://tenor.com/view/my-teen-romantic-comedy-yahari-oreno-seishun-love-comedywa-machigatteiru-oregairu-no-noway-gif-6088988

[karmic forum]

Into a +1

Looks like I'm in it this season

Time to chase famine once again

[alpine summit]

did you actually get a +2 from me

[karmic forum]

Yeah

You had a pretty good rush

[alpine summit]

well, its time for good sleep rest of the reason

[karmic forum]

Did you even eat a -1?

[alpine summit]

was close to eatting a -3 lmao

last reset i had 1 refresh left and the guy was rank 87th

refreshed into rank 1

actually went +3 on the rush

[somber axle]

I rush this reset

Need 2 runs for 2200

[royal oyster]

it looks like a +0 reset in my dead server

[shell heron]

I'll take it. +6 this reset

[rocky shadow]

Sometimes if rush in right time you can get +1

[shell heron]

had to refresh 3 times on the last match but found r10

[rocky shadow]

Specially if you in 200-300 rank

[royal oyster]

I had to refresh 3 times to avoid a -1

[rocky shadow]

The chance you get enemy in rank below 100 is high

If you want get aotn -1 is unavoided

[empty grove]

Garbage reset

[upper cove]

if you want aotn early

[karmic forum]

Hoo is in the lead somehow

[upper cove]

probably possible to avoid if you go for EoS aotn

[empty grove]

Kinda wish I missed a match now

Came out of the shower with like 6 minutes till

[rocky shadow]

Getting aotn earlier so i can sleep well

[somber axle]

Success, done with pvp

[upper cove]

my rush barely worked

lmao I'm already out of top 10

[somber axle]

2 fights left

[upper cove]

same

[vague token]

lel

[karmic forum]

@deep glacier you gonna rush?

[empty grove]

Was Rift rushing or should I just refresh off

[karmic forum]

Refresh

[naive dome]

gdi i just missed 5

[karmic forum]

He rushed last reset

[deep glacier]

@deep glacier you gonna rush?
@karmic forum I can fight right now if you want

[empty grove]

Too much collusion

[karmic forum]

That would be nice

[empty grove]

[karmic forum]

[deep glacier]

Ok~

How many points do I need to give you a bonus?

[deep glacier]

Fumu~

Sorry if I'm a bit slow

[shell heron]

it has always been 35 difference starting at captain for +1

[alpine summit]

Couldn't rush if I wanted to now, out of refresh and looking at a minus 2

[karmic forum]

Holy fuck that's rough

[deep glacier]

I finished a few minutes ago

[karmic forum]

Thanks

[deep glacier]

urw

If someone else sees me maybe I can give another bonus

I still have 5 tickets

but since I'm 10 or so points behind

it can be difficult for me to give +1 for those in the lead

[karmic forum]

It's fine I already ate

[deep glacier]

Look who's here

http://i.imgur.com/tx2krx7.png

[quartz scaffold]

Does getting defeated give points

[ionic magnet]

got last match magic again earlier

5th match +1

this season is pretty tight

[royal oyster]

meanwhile I think I got another dead list with no refreshes left. maybe I should just rush to aotn and be done with it

[alpine summit]

How close are you to numbah Wan overall

[royal oyster]

I was 5-6 behind, probably further back now

[somber axle]

Getting top 10 end of season is just for the e-peen.

There's no reward for it, I will just get Admiral of the navy and leave everytime.

[ionic magnet]

wdym

its fun getting cucced on last day after you worked hard for 2 weeks

[royal oyster]

I made a mistake and thought someone was 6 points behind me for a +1, since he was in the top 100 for the last couple days, but since I didn't see him after reset I guess he was 56 points behind

[karmic forum]

That's my secret

I sleep early until gensui

And let gensui luck decide whether I will get a high EoS rank

Also rip Kamui I think he got a +0 reset

[somber axle]

I revisit this once I get dev 30 azuma.

But by then, she will probably get powercrept.

[shell heron]

wait 5 +1's so soon Hoo?

[empty grove]

[ionic magnet]

no i just meant i got +1 on my last match earlier

[shell heron]

ah

I had to refresh for that one

[empty grove]

I got +1 on my last two matches

0 prior

[shell heron]

+2,+2,+0,+1,+1

[ionic magnet]

+1 +1 +1 +0 +1 for me

got 1 refresh left now tho

[empty grove]

This gensui has been garbage for me so far

I had two shit refreshes on turnover

So just left it

No one moved

[ionic magnet]

i refreshed twice to get my first +1

then saw 2 ppl from prev list push right after i refreshed

[empty grove]

That's the best feeling

Also eating a +1 on someone you think is holding

& then 30 mins later you see it could have been a +2

Equally as good feeling

[ionic magnet]

lol that too

[royal oyster]

sure if it procs

yes, since she has a preload she shoots immediately and might get her barrage off

[cerulean estuary]

oh i see , i seem to forgot her pre load ( lacks sleep )

[vague token]

acquire sleep

[sour oasis]

Slept through at least three tickets, had to eat a 9-point win and an 8-point win, but managed to snag AotN without too much difficulty during the rush and project myself to have an EoS score of 2560. This felt like a very weak season. It was the event update probably threw most players off?

[royal oyster]

I rushed down to 4/10 to get aotn with a +1 and a -1. now that I'm nestled between some rushers maybe it'll be less dead

[sour oasis]

Unless they sleep

The server order recently changed right? The game is recommending Lexington for new players and Amagi is at the bottom? (still 'hot' though)

[royal oyster]

lexington is probably too dead so they're trying to load balance

[karmic forum]

This season seems about the same as last season tbh

Scorewise

[empty grove]

Did they even unlock Avrora & Sandy

[karmic forum]

They did

[empty grove]

[royal oyster]

last season had the update bug

[karmic forum]

Avrora was even "hot" for a while iirc

[empty grove]

Auto updates off & avoid optional

Hasn't failed me yet

[karmic forum]

Auto-update is useful for my other apps

I wish I could just select AL to not auto-update

[naive dome]

i overslept, missed 5 fights and now struggle to get what should have been an easy aotn 😦

[ripe latch]

[quartz scaffold]

Another check off the bucket list

[prisma prism]

Looking like I'll finish top 10 this season again. I wonder how high I'll rank this time

[cerulean estuary]

is howe somewhat viable/useable on pvp?

[prisma prism]

I've heard some of my guild mates say yes

[hot creek]

howe seems pretty decent. accuracy buffs are always appreciated.

[upper sparrow]

We are still waiting for someone here to actually test her

[elder crane]

Seems like she'd be pretty good w warkai amagi
Would be kinda like warkai+Monarch focus fire, except instead of relying on lol 70% and a barrage that's useless after the target dies, you have an acc boost for everyone that continues to be useful

I don't see it being metabreaking though

[sour oasis]

Anyone in Avrora fight Caelestia 60? Is it just me or do they have two twin 457 users in their backline (Nagato, Amagi, Warspite). Whenever a 3rd salvo hits my Hiryu (first being Divine Marksman, followed by WS bracket and likely an IJN volley), she immediately activates final counter.

[quartz scaffold]

What's the fleet power

If the fleet power is high enough and you see 2 ap shells per salvo coming from 2 different ships then it probably is

[stable dawn]

oof missed 5 on gensui day

[crude mortar]

[ripe latch]

[inner quiver]

gensui?

[ripe latch]

aotn on jp

[sour oasis]

I think main fleet was 15.8k?

I thought two AP shells would have pushed it to 16k+

[ripe latch]

shells
put triple cv

[sour oasis]

My mistake. Main fleet not even 15.4k. But I swear I saw two AP salvos not counting Divine+.

[quartz scaffold]

Likely just 1 457

[sterile bluff]

how do i fight namaryuu

do i snipe hiryuu or amagi?

they r running yuki juneau belfap vg

[ripe latch]

hiryu

[shell heron]

real question or meme?

I pref hiryuu myself. get that final counter off early

[sterile bluff]

real question?

[shell heron]

dunno. we had meme questions here before

how do I beat portland?

[ripe latch]

[sterile bluff]

how do u beat portland tho

[ripe latch]

but porty strong so its question not a meme

[shell heron]

yes so is Roon

[ripe latch]

[sterile bluff]

holy shit i can't beat namaryuu

i blame it on rngesus

and lack of 457 and d30 fdg

[sour oasis]

Didn't you just make a 120 warkai?

Warkai snipes Hiryu to activate their Final Counter while VG not dead. Or Warkai snipes Amagi and you destroy their VG so Hiryu left on island.

[sterile bluff]

yea but still

i don't win

[sour oasis]

...

[shell heron]

without a 457. my warkai uses a triple 410 AP with HSFCR

[quartz scaffold]

What's your fleet

[sterile bluff]

my vg gets fkin demolished

[sour oasis]

What's your offense look like?

[shell heron]

it works to procc or get her really low

[sour oasis]

I don't even give my Warkai HPFCR and she's 119 and still winning.

[sterile bluff]

:juneau:

[shell heron]

I'm not playing with the chance of rudders making my first 2 salvos useless

[naive dome]

before I had nagato/richie, I found enty hiryuu to be decent against namaryuu

[inner quiver]

centaur? belfast ?

[sterile bluff]

yea

[quartz scaffold]

No Hiryuu?

[sterile bluff]

i don't use hiryuu on offense

[sour oasis]

Is Centaur a good fit with Warspite and Amagi?

[sterile bluff]

seems to be so far

[sour oasis]

I use Hiryu on offense

[sterile bluff]

it's either centy or monarch

centy is more consistent and better

[sour oasis]

I question Centaur without more HMS backline. To me, Enterprise would do the same and have a chance to be be invincible.

[naive dome]

centy is super squishy though

[sterile bluff]

yea but centaur has the buff

[sour oasis]

Mmm. Monarch and Warspite.

[sterile bluff]

and slow

monarch is rly ehh tbh

even if she procs her barrage (which never happens ) she misses like half of it

and after she snipes the main opposite of her, her job is finished
whatever happens next is non of her business

[sour oasis]

Slow only works if your offense is torp-meme. Or you have barrage to perforate enemy vg

Isn't it also not 100%?

[naive dome]

imo centy needs another CV to capitalize on her slow

[sterile bluff]

Isn't it also not 100%?
centaur's barrage? fuck no lmao

[sour oasis]

Centaur flash

[sterile bluff]

oh the barrage?

nope

it's 100% for centaur

formi's slow is 100% on first launch and 80% on subsequent launches

[sour oasis]

Upgrade Belfast to something more offensive to finish their VG, maybe go torp-meme.

[sterile bluff]

im getting

but the grind is hard man

[sour oasis]

Ah. That 80% always irks me.

[sterile bluff]

already got 343 bps waiting

and after that i gotta get her gear and 120 her

and i don't have spare nepguns

[sour oasis]

By irks me, I mean it never works for me and always for my opponent. Like 70% Lucky E.

[sterile bluff]

anyways is namaspite good on offense?

should i replace centy with ?

[sour oasis]

Yes. With the right guns. Hope for 100% barrage activation.

[naive dome]

tbh i prefer richiamaspite on offense if you're looking for fast clear

[sterile bluff]

richy is pvp?

[sour oasis]

Rich. Jean. War. Torp-meme. Win in 30s or your reset is free.

[ripe latch]

+10

[sterile bluff]

ok apparently namaspite is still t0 on the new tierlist so ill use it

[shell heron]

Nagato buff on Amagi, Yuki, and Azuma is still huge

[sterile bluff]

i don't have azuma

only amagi and yuki

no noshi either

[shell heron]

[naive dome]

richie is very meta on non ijn fleet

[midnight heron]

recently tried richy cuz fdg maxed and shes bloody op tho i cant say the same for bart simpson

pretty much never gonna use naga again

[sterile bluff]

i want maxed fdg too

only at 300 bps

[quartz scaffold]

[sterile bluff]

how r u so lucky risbian

[quartz scaffold]

[sterile bluff]

u have d30 fdg right?

u r in my guild i think

[quartz scaffold]

Yep

[sterile bluff]

[quartz scaffold]

Oh what's your username I didn't know lol

[sterile bluff]

鸡白is my ign

[sour oasis]

Guild?

[sterile bluff]

uhh it's lunar's guild

[quartz scaffold]

[sour oasis]

No one talks in my guild

I've got 10 left for twin 457... Since May. I've casually raised 40 FdG prints since then.

Equipment >> waifu ship >>> trash ship

[midnight heron]

bruh wtf is dat name lmao

[ripe latch]

ez to remember

[ebon kraken]

How many on avrora are running 2 457s so far

[bleak osprey]

[karmic forum]

There is only one person on EN who has two 457s

[ripe latch]

[ebon kraken]

Same guy with 10+ seattle guns if im not wrong

[karmic forum]

Well maybe there's more than one now but you'd have to be a madman to farm 2 457s and not play PvP

[ebon kraken]

Don't think any of the high-end rushers not on here have them yet

[karmic forum]

You'd have to skip PR3

Or be super optimal with research and luccsacc hard

[ripe latch]

not have idea why u want 457 more than one

[karmic forum]

Which is how Phoenix did it

[ebon kraken]

He was like 2/5 done with his 2nd while everyone was only almost finishing their first or smth iirc

[karmic forum]

Either way you'd have to lose sleep doing research in the middle of the night

[ebon kraken]

Though who would you guys use 2 457s on in def though

[karmic forum]

If use fdg/Amagi/ws if I had two 457s

I consider that a CN/JP only comp

For defense I'd still use namaryuu if I wanted to stall

[ripe latch]

https://prnt.sc/u82w7g

need tests with that

low budget 457

[karmic forum]

Anybody have PR3 gear yet?

Or is everyone still stuck in PR2 prison

[ripe latch]

maybe focus , but need test only this gun

[karmic forum]

Oh wait I can make one right now

[ripe latch]

[ebon kraken]

Agreed on namaryuu, since most outside of here don't run double sg warspite

[ripe latch]

ws kai with this gun or fdg , but pretty fdg have bonus so maybe on she

[karmic forum]

Wtf why is it so slow

It's as slow as the mk6

Faster and better mods than the ap 410 at least

Lower alpha damage

[ripe latch]

just see only armor break

works or not

[karmic forum]

Doesn't really scream meta breaking

[ripe latch]

champag gun maybe

[karmic forum]

It does work

[ripe latch]

low alpha but can spam

[karmic forum]

The armor break works but the gun is so slow that you can't even take advantage of it

[ripe latch]

ok , gun 🚮

[karmic forum]

It's better than the ap 410 at the very least

[alpine summit]

stats look almost identical to the 410, besides being ap+

well ap^ or whatever, since 457 is ap+

and 110 mod @_@

[ripe latch]

[elder crane]

Since the load time is basically identical, look at dps for the dmg numbers

Champ gun has a solid ~8% advantage over 410AP, about where litt gun is, except instead of worse dispersion it has better dispersion (tbf doesn't matter for warkai) and it doesn't gimp reload after 2 shots

It actually does slightly more dmg per reload than 457
...ofc it loads a few seconds slower though
And with HPFCR it probably fires right into rudder proc timing, so no HPFCR option

I'd take it on warkai if you lack 457, solid NO for FdG

[upper cove]

The 406mle ye has the highest alpha damage for medium/heavy

Where as before 457 and 410 were tied

Which made 410 kind dumb looking

[ripe latch]

top30 3 refresh - 59-70-80

???

why top200

not on list

[crude mortar]

maybe haloist luck be with you

[karmic forum]

Chibi Goku isn't rushing

This is probably the biggest plot twist of the season

[ebon kraken]

Apparently rushing the whole season can still net you AoTN at the right time

Never thought +28 top 10 would've been possible at any point on avrora

[solid phoenix]

Hey, I just did this on Avrora

[crude mortar]

congratz man

you're the best

best player of avrora

[ripe latch]

[crude mortar]

[upper cove]

some guy on washington has you beat

pausechamp

[crude mortar]

[upper cove]

[sour oasis]

⏳

[ionic magnet]

@alpine summit are you still rushing?

[ionic magnet]

i wouldnt sandbeg if chibi goku would just wake up already

[sour oasis]

Where are they right now?

I haven't seen them anywhere.

[vague token]

it's chibi goku though

gl getting the right time

[crude mortar]

[ripe latch]

[true vale]

Did you put that hiryuu in the fleet just to trigger people?

[crude mortar]

@true vale

[true vale]

I guess that's a yes

Hasn't leveled in 2 months

[crude mortar]

no gold

I still didn't get all new ship

[sour oasis]

[true vale]

What do you mean 'no gold'?.. You don't need gold to level ships

[crude mortar]

retrofit?

[true vale]

You need oil.

[sour oasis]

Also cognitive unlock

[crude mortar]

lvling 100-150 require alot of coin too

*120

[true vale]

It's 4 levels before that, at least have the courtesy to get her to 100

[crude mortar]

if I wanna lvling her

I could get her 120 within 12hour

[true vale]

Or, you know.. Pick a less annoying defender.. Like Warkai

😄

[crude mortar]

do you know those ship doesn't even equip gear

[true vale]

Nagato doesn't have gear

Talking in #pvp

[crude mortar]

I dont use nagato in pvp

[sour oasis]

[crude mortar]

I use alot of haram ship

amen

[true vale]

And here I was feeling bad that my Warkai isn't carrying a rainbow

Also, does it just feel like that to me, or is it usually better to put juneau in mid on def..? Not that it really matters but eh.

[crude mortar]

I should've

[karmic forum]

Rip all those 100 merits

[crude mortar]

roll one more nagato

and lvling her to 30

[ripe latch]

erika lazy man

[crude mortar]

to trigger people

its not about how fast they beating my fleet

its about giving them anxiety

[true vale]

Just put a 6-star fdg and warkai in there, that's what triggers my anxiety.

[crude mortar]

are you having some problem vs warkai and 6star fdg?

[karmic forum]

@whole terrace What are the chances you can use three charges to give me a +1?

[true vale]

Well, yeah. 6-star fdg is pretty strong and she eats shells like it's her freaking diet

[crude mortar]

I dont have any problem vs those at all