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im all in for it
If they did that I think i'd stop doing PVP

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and why in this channel...



finally good fleet
man dis game sure wants to make me having bs rng a daily thing huh
3 bb backlines + 2 vg firing at 1 remaining ykkz, she gets to survive till my backline gets wiped
yeah sure makes 100% logical sense
trash game give me low dmg to enemy backline
🖕
idk sometimes i see weird shit as well but w/e
some matchups just make it seem like its out to get u
which im guessing is cuz they generate their rng seeds using player names
on my observation , player lvl somehow influences to win or lose
its mostly the same few u hav trouble with
never others
even if the others hav about the same gear
or better gear for some cases
lel dats just game mechanics tho
game mechanics - 12 trp where 8 miss
random to side donator , change my mind 
Vanguard v vanguard hitrates are ~60-80% for the most part
yea burn to 1hp and suddenly all ur backlines decide to target the other enemy with >50% hp 
😡
It's worse when somehow all plane suicides don't target it
Like bruh
That's, what, 8+ separate rolls
nah imma go twin 410 type 3 
if those guns all miss i can report the guy already cuz dats too many pellets
aside from ihr procs


oh wow, +5 this split after 3 fights
best round in a long time
actually, ive not looked into my pvp equips for a long time
here I am stuck at +0 for the 3rd day in a row for this split
noshiro (left most)- nep gun, rainbow torp, hazer AA, pearl, ankimbo
juneau - 138, quint mag, hazer, boiler, AI chip
YKK - 100mm, rainbow torp, hazer, fire ext, boiler
nagato (flag) - hood gun, bel gun, staag, beaver, gold FCR
amagi - hood, belfast, staag, white shell, radar
wsk - 457, bel, staag, white + black
does that look solid enough
always think about adding more hit for the backline....
Arrrgg. I'm on my 4th straight 0:30 UL research and no rainbow prints. 🎲
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@alpine summit shells are ng
SG radar's hitrate boost is on average about/almost as (depends on the ship) good as the stat/skill boosts on either shell, and you get 15 eva on top of that, which for a low-base-eva ship, is a massive boost to eHP
should have a ton of SGs around, can swap one in on wsk
standard setup for BB/C (without HPFCR) is either rudder/badge+SG or 2 SG, depending on how much you need survivability vs damage output on the ship
HPFCR slots in instead of an SG radar, providing slightly more damage and a forwards adjustment on firing times, at the cost of the 15 eva
definitely a no go on rudders, using rudders for pve
You'll eventually get enough rudders to have some extra for PvP
3 ihr enough 
If rudder isn't an option then I'd just put SGs on backline
Thats what I use
Rainbow is fine on ykkz because she survives a long time
I also prefer the 100mm to the 76mm because barrages aren't reliable
im fine with sending my 457 and rainbow torps to pvp....they are basically one offs
was fire ext on ykk fine too?
100 mm is generally preferred over 76 mm because Hiryuu still exists
not like you rely on ykkz's barrage output anyways, and the 30 AA on her low AA reduces the plane damage she takes by a lot when she gets hit by them
fire ext is standard on her generally
Fire ext + boiler is standard
Hi PVP, I hope you're having a nice weekend. Finally pulled Yukikaze! I did like 50 light pulls today.
cant hav a nice weekend if i keep getting nonsense rng 
So hows everyone's gensui rush going?
Why rush first reset? 
Unless camping AotN
I'm planning on rushing on first reset of saturday unless I get a really good gensui.
yas join rusher squad
You can still sandbag and sleep at the same time
I did that this season and was fairly close to the top the entire time
Getting good ending for Kurumi > Azur Lane PvP
Also dropping ticks two seasons in a row
Running some full russian memes, is this the best gun for gangut? Her skill requires it
But I don’t know if it’d be better just to abandon the skill and go a better gun
Yes that gun is pretty much required
Her skill makes that gun actually really good on her relative to normal ones
Which she really needs since her base is atrocious
Somewhere between Mikasa stats and real BB stats
Also how can you run a full russian team with only two backlines?
Simple, just take one of the lent ships
Repulse is an option
Wait, renown actually, I think?
One of them
1 sec
Nah, was royal sovereign, remembered that wrong
But Giulio Cesare is an option
She was transferred over to soviet navy as reparations from italy
Nah, she wasn't transferred over, though she worked w them for a while
I misremembered it, was hms royal sovereign
Soviets got really mad RN gave them that old of a BB rather than at least a QE class or something
lul
Apparently she was so poorly maintained only one turret rotated at all when the soviets returned her in 49
And her engines were completely shot
Iirc couldn't even hit 10 knts or something like that
So yeah, when RN got her back, instant scrap
Not that her condition would've mattered for that lol
i remembered why i preferred double cuda hiryuu
im using her to sponge double focus
so she usually ends up FCing after guns
xD
Gave up on gensui rush this season, but I did make it to fleet admiral.
I lost 2-3 times from just not paying attention. 😂
Let me check
I'm 59 points from top right now.
Top = 2220
0/10, I just did my runs after accidentally losing those fights. 🤷
I'll try

+3 and I used all of my refreshes
Getting an insta rusher is a big bonus
Meanwhile I only got +1
Don't recognize anyoneee
@shell heron Please get a better reset this time so I can rush
If they're slightly under 2200 then theres a good chance they will rush this reset
I don't like that I'm still this close to the top
Im still amazed at +7
Theres a chance that Kouhei will rush
But I look at that list and I see possibly two viable targets
Top 2 guys must be at 0

Anyway, I'll be happy to get at least +2
F

I barely made to top 100
You can still make gensui fwiw
three of my opponents are top 30 but none can give me +1 right now
and only one has less than 2200
Oh kamui got a +1 at the end


forgot about time savings
Because people who rush to 2200 probably won't move again
Belfast / Yukikaze / Juneau, who tanks?
bel
I think a +70 is mathematically out of the question
Chibi goku isn't enough for +70
So Yuki is mid?
Chibi won't be enough because he always rushes asap
Belfast/Juneau/Ykkz is how I would position
Oh nm, he is now +70 over me
I've missed more 70 +2s than i've gained

Should defend your title

see his profile picture
Too busy playing DAL gatcha to care about PvP
hes seirei simp
same tbh
ofc he miss charge
I missed two

Yea I need to play other games.
i might not go back to tryharding 
I was 20 seconds from missing one today
I'm surprised that my list is dead
not much rushers this reset 
Three people who could have rushed for gensui but none of them did
im 2 mins late and still got it easily
I'm 52 points from top with 4/10 can I really still make it?
I'll just waste refreshes & pray
No you can't
Not trying then, see you next season!
Just take your time and sandbag some more
you dont look at top score
CYA NEXT SEASON
just look at top10
You definitely eat the +1
wife
I'm f2p
One of these is not like the others
Ya if cunny goes up, he would only hit +69 on me

I see Erika's jank defense fleet there

🤮

+71 is definitely +2 right

126
Just +70 is janky
So +70 sometimes gives +2 and sometimes doesn't
I feel like even if you don't trust it
You always take it
Cuz how often do you get a plus 70 anyway
Waiting too long is worse
The earlier you push on someone tho, the higher likelihood you get someone that hasn't moved or is currently moving
Damn
Refreshes paying off
i just rushed 100 points in like 20 mins, I hope I made someone happy
Get aotn?
yeah
If so nice
Cuz that is all that matters in the end
another one bite the dust
You can probably make top 10 with a lot of luck
Especially if I decide to rush this season
I've made aotn missing 10

Oh wait wtf you're at 5/10 already?
First time I got so little bonuses for 3 days straight
i made it to aotn this season missing 5
nice
After the reset all my opponents were sleeping apparently
Gensui rush giveth gensui rush taketh away
I gave up, I did just enough fights to win my 2500
I'll forget about pvp until next season
Looks like I'm due for another bad gensui this season
Good luck everyone
I'll push to 0/10 next reset probably
I saw caym at +2 over me before this reset
sure
We all saw
Time to change in eld
can eldridge "evade" fire DOT ?
how to rush when no one moves zzz
well then richie seems like the counter of eld


yo can someone explain to me how the hell cheshire is supposedly dealing more AA dmg than sandy retro?
aagm+1 is one hell of a drug
but sandy gets +2 doesnt she?
so how does that stack up at all
ive seen so many people say that cheshire is better all because of AAGM+1 but nobody can explain the math behind it or tell me how that stacks up when sandy has like a 40% higher base AA stat and whatnot
||could it be that everyone is just blabbering after just3c?||
umm, sandy doesnt get any aagm+1
but sandy gets +2 doesnt she?
@fair prism no. only one AA gun mount
also, not a pvp question. Ask #gameplay-help . If you're not satisfied with their answer, check out ALEN or another sub-community
technically aa is a pvp mechanic too i don't see a problem with answering that here
anyway with sandy 1st skill proc she still does more dmg then cheshire even without 2nd aa mount
not to mention that skill buffs everyone aa not just sandy
so aa wise sandy way superior to chesire
Yup +0 reset
If any of you get me on their list at the end of the reset I'm probably rushing when I wake up tomorrow
what's ALEN?
AL English Comm (ALEC)
Proposal to name the nagato-amagi-suruga comp "Namaruga"
Sounds better than "Namasu" to me

Namaga sounds better, yes
Namasu sounds like Javanese word for dogs
And it's usually a pejorative term


when u play vs top donator 
Hallowed is his name for this meal 


should I use 818 at all ?
does that mean you are about to run double cv?
or just using 818 on hiryu like normal plebs
It's an option, but what exactly are you trying to hit w in that window 
Is wfc still viable in pvp?
yea 
what about warspite nagato amagi?
I want to run that comb later...
missing amagi though rn.. so I just use enty instead
work , problem with fdg or azuma dev30
rng if sakura proc and u win, not proc - full azuma hp

Amagi is much more important than Nagato there, sooo
Nagato Warkai Enty should be enough to RNG wins vs anything though

why use nagato when there's no other ijn backliner though ?
🅱️ 
What would you use though?
If her RNG barrage procs, she's still amazingly strong
richie or amagi?
Nagato is still one of the scariest ships on defense

He literally just said no Amagi
Richi could be an option tbf
pretty sure a lot of pvp is also
i have these units at 120 and i dont feel like changing it much
Kamui is still 2 up of me 
Kamui went to 4/10 at some point
He was at 45/95 during gensui 2
Also I have dev30 DRs now 
Nvm I can't do math still 10 behind
My cube projects have been cursed recently. Going to be a while before dev30 fdg for tryhard def fleet
@karmic forum think you can move one more. You're 3 points from a +1 
nakaga everywhere 
@shell heron done moving

I have a feeling Cay did not wait for me
so who is in the lead this season?
Kamui
i know cay is at least +2 on me
2347 iirc
oh my, +5
i could see myself make up +2
cant see +5
was there anyone else?
im sure there must be in the gap between 2342 and 2347
Kamui, CZ Delta, and Cay are ahead of you
I saw famine 40 spots below me. Now they're 40 above me. Still only a 10 point difference 
I refreshed because im at work taking my "break"
Although I got you on my list again. Collusion time? 
Why hello there 
How many pts?
2344
im probably getting +0 this round
only 1 refresh left, and my guys started below me in points
didnt want to risk the reset with only 1 left
you saw that dumb rankings people
time to give our lord and savior a skin

tho im p sure its just enty whos gonna be top 1

Not like I sleep before reset anyways 
what's the best counter to azuma ?
Kamui's a bit in the lead, I'm at 45 rn. Ate a -1 and a +0 the other day
Counter to Azuma? Hope Noshiro torps can chunk her or use a better Azuma 
no hard counter without gimping the rest of your comp just for a counter
crit rate is nice, but torp...
on azuma
besides i don't wanna drop yuki or jesus

noshiro helps everyone xD
share
But I accidentally used 10 extra bps on azuma
oof
when you move, is it a +2 for me? I caught the current rank 5
my azuma just went d29
dunno to wait or not 
I'm already a +1 though
its actually faster than previous estimates tho
my fdg is still dev24 and my azuma is 3bps into dev30
Cay you're still at 2344 right?
I'm going to wait ~1hr to see if my list moves
Just trying not to eat the first -1
Although I guess it doesn't really matter at this point
I wonder if you were a +2 if I had waited for you to move earlier
I pushed to 0/10 so probably
I was working as well so I couldn't see your message at the time
why am i feeling that i have more bps than u
lost opportunity. I still have Kamui and CZ to chase after
I am now
I was pretty stingy before
when people say they always get at least one DR print from cube projects
that's a lie
I pretty much spent the last two months spamming cube comms

Had to skip the ISSS rerun basically
I was at dev 25 both both of them beforehand
So it was around ~200 bps from a few weeks before PR3 announcement to now
still long way to full power azuma for me X_x
but she's pretty much fine at dev 25 with nosh support
about 85/85 prints for my DRs
it just feels so far away
and i stopped feeling so secure in my cubes after the last few events
2 events took around 400, and two others took 300
It's been two weeks since my last 457 BP 
Tried reformatting EoS scores, need opinions on how easy it is to read
The idea is to have all of the scores in one image so I can just post multiple seasons to this one album
Or maybe I just use something other than imgur
Thorough.
Hes been rank 1 for most of Avrora's seasons in the past few months
Exception being the two last seasons where he dropped matches
He also pushes the latest out of any sandbaggers
there were a few recently where Hoo and me beat him
well we had the same score once, but I got it first
Yeah theres a few seasons where he loses but hes had more r1s than anyone on the server


something like that
Which, JP? (I'm thinking that most pvp players baggers are from +8:00)
I'm pretty sure he has to wake up in the middle of the night for a reset
@karmic forum thank you for moving 
Got a bit distracted by EoS lists but yeah I'm done
now time to see if that +2 close the gap a little between me and CZ/Kamui
Hmm
If you get me on EOS push, ping me & i'll dump matches
My luck wont be able to make up for the two down

That & still playing DAL so no PVP focus


||and amazing pvp channel mod||
im guessing it takes amazing luck to get a really high score
with beginning of season shenanigans and active people in general
first 5 doesn't matter too much as long as it's at least 140
it's the next few days that sets up where you start from
i just hope i dont do 2599 again
2599 is enough to get top 10 EoS easy
any higher is active sandbagging
I don't recall every getting +10 on the last day. maybe +8 but that was rare
But it can happen, and luck is a big factor. (the pinned table shows +9 or +10)
+9
I did get those bonuses
but dropped my run on the last reset
because
happened
Getting over 20 bonus points in the last three days of the season isn't easy.
That's why I like to focus on the first week ||it saves me when I'm sleeping through a refresh on the second||
pretty average that season compared to my scores recently
Oh?
I was considering remaking that score reference for an actual tryhard season
but it's good enough for people who just want AotN
I mean I'm +8 compared to where I was before
I should 3m exp my 🥖 too
hmmm 
That score reference of yours was +100. You want it more try hard?
if that only ends at 2600. not good enough
Gotta hit 2608
So.. Just three 
damn it. Kamui is now 3 up on me
cant ask for more than that
but i wonder if goku will push more
hard to tell if he spent it all

my boy qimi gonna sweep that hooloo scrub

na, went ahead and got the +1

honestly i should get my gensui here
as im pretty sure im not gonna get another +1
ya, might as well push

or ummm, im probably gonna make top 10 anywa
i guess i should save my refreshes just in case
doubt any of these guys can get +1
right guy is out of the picture
left guy too
would have to pray pretty hard for 2nd guy

with waifu fleet on def too
jamaica
Going pretty well, I guess

@crude mortar 

oh my
he is actually a +1 already
did anyone know if good old trumpy boi rushes?
Hes inconsistent
He hasn't rushed down to 0/10 this season yet
If he does push it will probably be later
well, as long as he does his fights
im guarenteed +2 on him
so i might as well wait
He might not since I'm pretty sure hes at 0/10
sad
I would probably just take the +1 a couple of minutes into the reset
he does have great names for his botes
i feel like it is hard to tell unless you just know who to look for
I had 2501 before the last reset last season for reference
Kamui and CZ are at 2450
+1 for them should be very possible
i got +2 last run, and already at least a +1 here

Might have been the classic ykkz vs. hiryuu
How do you get something pinned on this channel?
Just ask the mods? Or does one of the regulars have pinning privs
just @ everyone and it'll get pinned 
If its beneficial to the club. You can ask a mod to pin it. Thats how score reference got pinned
The previous one was pretty unrealistic. Max of 2658

Its just an archive of EoS scores
I think its pretty nice to have them all in one place
Although I only started recording two seasons ago
I can also dig further back for the older seasons but those are usually just top 10 scores only
Do you normally ss the entire top 100?
Not really
just give holo unlim resets and see 2659 
I'll probably dig up the earlier seasons and add them to the album if thats alright with you
If you have them sure
Turns out that Trump did push again
Its hard to make that call sometimes
How many you got left?
Its your call
This was for earlier but when you land on a new list and its early into the reset you can look at your opponents in the top 100 leaderboards
You can tell if they moved recently if that are near the bottom of their point tier
my yukikaze just managed to be inside nagato's hitbox
and still whiff all 4 torps
no pats for her
Lexington
2499 for r11 seems incredibly low
Yeah, I p much missed a round
I should check the Sandy leaderboards as well
So I have high hopes I'll get it if I do every round


tbf if you're in a position to get a +13 something must have went wrong with your season

I lost 2 battles due to not paying attention
Big meme
probs will finish at #30 this season
Whose fleet has been the hardest to beat for you guys?
I found faceless' fleet pretty difficult until I chose to snipe FDG instead of amagi
Surprising since theres no amagi
he got 2 bamboozle alrdy anyways
I'm thinking that Nagato/FDG/Amagi is going to be pretty annoying to face
nah
im using hiryuu rather than wskai
so its very easy to gank non hiryuu comps
the only scary def ship in this game still is hiryuu
in the end for me
Hiryuu comps lose to random stuff like torps and wfc though
typical rock paper scissors pvp
The toughest comps for me are when they make their Amagi/Hiryuu really tanky
So its a guessing game
that one guy was the only exception tbh
sad, wont get +2 from any of these
not sure how some fleet using richy ws amagi can tank hiryuu airstrikes like its nothing
🖕
stat reductions dont magically make planes deal no dmg when ur jun is dead
I can't tell if Edwarzo has one more tick or not
I'm planning on pushing soon
Im not surr if edwarzo is sandbagging this season
I wasn't keeping track of scores
Hold up. Let me do a match first and see of I catch you
He was either at 35 or 45 last reset

Yeah as if you're gonna be that lucky
I'll wait a bit more though
it seems r1 is between CZ and Kamui
Operation catch kogasa: failed 
I need to move anyways. Those are names i dont see on EoS high rankings
I cast voodoo magic on them. May they eat -2s at the end 
Which is pretty good considering a rushed for a full day
Oddly enough being ranked high but not near top is a good spot for bonuses
The boomers are getting replaced by the new blood
I know far right guy was near me in score
But I'm not sure if I want to wait for him
Probably won't give me +2 either tho
im probably gonna end up at 2597 or 2598
@shell heron Do you have the EoS for the season from November 25 - December 8 2019?
Discord seemed to have died that day
I'm digging up the EoS scores for all of the past seasons and putting them into one place
prob not. I don't keep screen shots for too long
especially not those over half a year ago
rip
If anyone wants to see the leaderboards of past seasons:
https://imgur.com/a/OxKsklM
If anyone wants to see the past
I'm still working on it though, only done around a years worth of PvP
Should I ping the mods to pin the album?
Thanks
who else would it every other time 
was that the 48 hour maint one?
Oh hey I reached the season where Cay got stalled 
Too bad the scores are incomplete

Whose fleet has been the hardest to beat for you guys?
its still famine's comp last season for me
rich warkai fdg jun azuma ykkz
tho only slightly over the usual torp namaryuu/namaspite
warkai+fdg focus is annoying already then you add richie 1k burn ticks
This was the season that I rushed at the end due to bad gensui
I probably would have gotten second if I kept sandbagging in hindsight
This season was stacked
I see plebs and our not lvl 120+ player level yet 

Hoo do you have nagato at 120 yet?
ah no actually slacced a lot recently
104 iirc

grinding affection took longer than expected
but atleast fdg is in her final form soon
I didn't realize how many seasons had no 2600+ scores
Oh yeah Edwarzo did have one more tick
I'm 5 bps away from FDG d30
good
more ppl to test with
cos for some reason famine is a rare food
that you can only catch once every 5 seasons or smth

I've had Famine on my list two times this season

Didn't get a chance to test stuff though
itis only recently that ppl other than fam gets 2600 again
when covid happened
ppl dont do jobs anymore and wake up all resets

but it's fun being in the crazy crowd 
Let me look at the scores real quick
I dropped 5
lets see if this is hard
good for you
very very healthy sleep for 2days
Yeah PvP scores seemed a bit low before march
might considering eating -1 next season
They're pretty high right now to a level comparable to earlier PvP seasons

My sleep schedule still hasn't recovered from last season
wouldnt say it was that hard
Although I'm gradually being able to sleep earlier now
fk this im going for 0/10 next season before sleep
all 3 backline lived
cya next 2 season
trained dog needs no alarm anymore 
I still have alarms for the resets where I'm awake
Because sometimes I get distracted by things and forget
I wake up after I sleep for 4 hour to do pvp then sleep 6 more hour and everytime I did that I have a very bad mood that day
and its been 14days
I wouldn't use a refresh to fish for a +1
better to use a refresh to avoid a -1 or -2
lol oh wow, he still had charges
he is in 1st place now
doubt i could of gotten a +3 from him
dont think +3s are a thing
They're not
i mean, it's like impossible unless they were already ahead of you
cause you'd need them to be 105 over you
or w/e
if you have 10 tickket and that guy 105 over you you get +3 it become 103!
Someone had a screenshot of the max +49 last season or so. After they stopped doing pvp midway
need alot of +3 +2 to beat that guy
and if they got +5 from bonus, then you were probably already behind too much to recover xD
he ended up exactly 100 over me
so was missing 5
that was a potential +3
if he was doing really well
old ui best ui
oh god
























