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glacial sand
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why was i tagged here? πŸ‘€

shy hazel
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never updated my gears since zack took it

elder crane
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why not

crude mortar
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remove equip to farm event

shy hazel
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they asking if u is the souken

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in avrora pvp

glacial sand
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avrora? yes

shy hazel
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and why is u naked

frail orbit
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Caught naekid be liek

sour oasis
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Oh u556Wave your defense fleet is all backline, naked vanguard?

glacial sand
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coz im using my gears on my farming fleet

crude mortar
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they all naked

sour oasis
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Ah. It's still an effective defense fleet.

shy hazel
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ur a disgrace to pvp

glacial sand
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i haven't touch my defense fleet since ages anyway

shy hazel
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have a real def

crude mortar
sour oasis
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Namagi ate my vanguard forcing a Hiryu vs Hiryu match.

empty grove
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@karmic forum I still on your list?

ionic magnet
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did you just got stalled by a naked def fleet

karmic forum
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No I saw you on leaderboards

empty grove
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Ohh

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Ping me if you do

shy hazel
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look F

empty grove
shy hazel
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hooloo judging your fleet

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he is implying its shit

glacial sand
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my whole fleet is naked... how did you end up 1vs1 hiryu?

frail orbit
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@crude mortar lul u rush all 5 ehh

crude mortar
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there you go

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my ultimate defense fleet

karmic forum
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Sad nagato

shy hazel
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wtf are those levels

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arent u ashamed

empty grove
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That pic gives me anxiety

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Thanks

shy hazel
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be proud pvper

ionic magnet
crude mortar
sour oasis
shy hazel
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grind nagato to 120 in 10 hours

crude mortar
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im trying to enjoy event dialog

shy hazel
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as far as i remember

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i skipped all event dialog since a year ago

crude mortar
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im trying my best to enjoy azur lane

frail orbit
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Stella

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Just get a bit lenient on him lah

ionic magnet
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EN peeps can read?

shy hazel
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no

sour oasis
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Then why pvp RoonSip2

frail orbit
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Let him have some thang on it

shy hazel
frail orbit
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@ionic magnet imagine #pvp being EN

ionic magnet
crude mortar
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im playuing azur lane unironically

empty grove
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Tryhard

shy hazel
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but i still find it funny

empty grove
shy hazel
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how come a naked fleet ganked u

crude mortar
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*im trying to play azur lane unironically

shy hazel
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F indeed

ionic magnet
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maybe he got haloist rng ThinkZed

glacial sand
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ok, i just read chat
you probably fought me when i was doing pvp, my current attack fleet has the same backline as my defense fleet that's why they had gears @sour oasis

shy hazel
ionic magnet
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nuuu

shy hazel
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why u throw a rescue float

crude mortar
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souken is here?

shy hazel
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it was the perfect time to diss F

karmic forum
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So you're saying that the actual gears updated while the fleet score didn't

shy hazel
crude mortar
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welcome to azur lane

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first time?

empty grove
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Yes

karmic forum
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If thats the case then theres some real potential to cheese sandbaggers

shy hazel
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gears and ships update

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like 15 mins

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or server side shizz

empty grove
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I've been pushing my matches at last 5 mins

shy hazel
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we tested it long time ago

empty grove
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It's worked out fine so far

crude mortar
glacial sand
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@crude mortar yes, im here πŸ‘€

crude mortar
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I need zerg rush fleet

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what to use

ionic magnet
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go continue hiro legacy

shy hazel
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thats why i told u

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just tag em if they here

karmic forum
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So updates every 15 mins starting from the hour

shy hazel
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pvp is a club anyways

crude mortar
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who continue hiro legacy

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mr f?

shy hazel
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they wont be here if they dont want to be tagged in pvptopic

ionic magnet
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you eri MutsukiStare

shy hazel
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no pls

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hiro is about talking garbage toxic

glacial sand
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im here to steal team comp SandyMeme

shy hazel
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erika is just inferior kiro

crude mortar
shy hazel
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now that i think about it

empty grove
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Gif posting in my PVP channel

shy hazel
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i don think zack was able to manage

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to get gensui once

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when he used my accnt

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no gensui notif in mail

karmic forum
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Zack was juggling EN and JP at the same time

empty grove
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Or he claimed & deleted

karmic forum
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A true madman

empty grove
shy hazel
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so who is top dog this season

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hooloo?

empty grove
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Someone named Kogasa

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I wonder who it is

ionic magnet
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stop jinxing

shy hazel
ionic magnet
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kogasa ThinkZed

karmic forum
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they got +5 on the first gensui I think

shy hazel
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tag ppl randomly

karmic forum
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If they're sandbagging that is

shy hazel
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inb4 its 0/10

frail orbit
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At least shibe lost 4

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From fleetposting

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Shizz mate got 457 ffs

empty grove
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Having 457

ionic magnet
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3c said the new pr3 AP gun is on par with 457

frail orbit
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AND WHO TF IS 3C

empty grove
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Is that for PVE

frail orbit
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IMAGINE

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2020

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AND STILL ON 3C

ionic magnet
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its slower but has 3 shots so ThinkZed

empty grove
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Ok

frail orbit
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At least

empty grove
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I just saw Stella's fleet

frail orbit
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It's fine on FDG

empty grove
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Lmao

frail orbit
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But whatever

empty grove
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Gold

frail orbit
ionic magnet
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oh rip i forgot to post that

crude mortar
ionic magnet
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post the whole fleet fam

frail orbit
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@empty grove anyway u rushed 2nd 457?

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Or PR3?

empty grove
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PR3

frail orbit
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For research

ionic magnet
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what a sad juneau

frail orbit
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Gud grief then

crude mortar
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why is juneu not kiroshima

frail orbit
empty grove
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Not oathed

ionic magnet
frail orbit
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U know Stella being Stellar in this case lah

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When he's just unoathed Jun

empty grove
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Just have two at 120

crude mortar
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who is stella account owner anyway

empty grove
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One oathed & one non

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EZ

karmic forum
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The stella that chats here

ionic magnet
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stella is ded

frail orbit
karmic forum
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Stella is dead, now its Pecorine

frail orbit
crude mortar
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same person?

frail orbit
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Just call him

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StellaPec

ionic magnet
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same loser

frail orbit
crude mortar
ionic magnet
shell heron
frail orbit
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same loser
@ionic magnet same loser got looser ehh

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Ask me
Then yes, pun intended

ionic magnet
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time to hide before peco comes back

frail orbit
lament lichen
karmic forum
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Vy are you ever going to come back to PvP?

shy hazel
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imagine calling me loser

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the hooloo who didnt have nagato for 1 and a half year

shell heron
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why hello there MalinStare

shy hazel
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and im not the one doing pvp

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i have someone doing it for me

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i forgot cay's ingame name was Cayim

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Cay sounds better

frail orbit
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@shy hazel well for me ye u looser

shy hazel
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no

frail orbit
shy hazel
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all of u sandbaggers are losers

frail orbit
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2020 and no fdg d30

shy hazel
frail orbit
shy hazel
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isnt u the one

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who has dev 5 azuma

frail orbit
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Nope

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D29 on main

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And none on mikumo's

shy hazel
frail orbit
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Got 2 acc controlled by me keks

shy hazel
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anyways ask zack why nothing is on d30 yet

frail orbit
shy hazel
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he dont wanna spend cubes on research

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which is good move anyways

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pr3 dont matter rn anyways

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14 months before pr4

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thats the gap in jp/cn server before pr3

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anything inbetween that is wasted bp

coral wren
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stecorine

shy hazel
crude mortar
vague token
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wait im on there? xD

empty grove
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He's calling you a cockroach

vague token
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the memes will never die

shell heron
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Juneau is the real roach of pvp

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never dies when you want her to

shy hazel
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i mean

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on the tryhards i personally know

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i only know 4

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kiro is the extra meme

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its my respecc

crude mortar
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put yourself on that jun

shy hazel
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give jun a skin

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maybe ill oath

vague token
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we'll get a juneau skin when we get amagi skin

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aka never

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;)

frail orbit
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@vague token fok u

alpine summit
shy hazel
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poke hooloo

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@ionic magnet

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in fact dont stop until he bleeds

alpine summit
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na, probably 0 chance any of mine will be a +1 for me

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would have to refresh and pray i think

ionic magnet
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i got 2 charges left UniSip

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whats your score

alpine summit
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2215

ionic magnet
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yea i cant give you bonus

karmic forum
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You can give him +2 if you wanted to BuckySmug

ionic magnet
alpine summit
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well, i went ahead an did aotn last set

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so i should of expected a had set

shell heron
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I see you Hoo

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only 2 behind you now

shy hazel
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cay

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i cheer for u

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grab hooloo by the butt

shell heron
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you hear that Hoo. I'm coming for that booty

ionic magnet
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i better step up my gaem then

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peco giving me true guildmate love

crude mortar
coral wren
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ehem whos better monarch dev 30 or amagi? on pvp ofc

karmic forum
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Amagi

coral wren
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what about enty or centaur?

karmic forum
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Centaur fits in a good comp

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Enty is better as a standalone

topaz blade
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What would be a "good comp" for centaur?

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QE?

karmic forum
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Warkai/Formidable/Centaur

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check the pins

frail orbit
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Anyway

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Tri 381 suitable for Wakai w/ HPFCR?

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For killing slow VGs anyway

coral wren
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i have centaur but dont have the bulins, so im planning to swap enty for the moment

topaz blade
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Why is the VT18 divebomber rated so low on the pinned tier list?

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I thought it was BiS for pve

frail orbit
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Derp crash dmg

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Flood chance so low anyway

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Since its torps just gonna either hit VGs or be a dud

topaz blade
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Is there a crash dmg reference sheet/table somewhere

karmic forum
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You can look up the numbers for the relevant planes on the wiki

shy hazel
topaz blade
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Oh wow I'm blind lol

shy hazel
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because pve isnt best for pvp

hot creek
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fack. sat at 6/10 since I thought already finished.

shy hazel
ripe latch
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aotn but -1

shell heron
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you're on an easy server.

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easy r1 for you

shy hazel
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sounds

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pretty normal

ripe latch
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but we have sandbaggers too

hot creek
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actually im not sure. maybe I did finish my matches.

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guess i'll find out soon enough

unborn gull
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for hiryuu aux slots is twin steam catapault recommended or a diff setup?

hot creek
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use Rudder/Avgas

crude mortar
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aotn but +3

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but already eat -1 yesterday

coral wren
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my nagaloli still hasnt dropped

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no meta for me...MonarchSad

crude mortar
coral wren
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If I’m running a namaryuu fleet but I don’t have noshiro or azuma, who would be better between belfast and jintsuu?

proper sorrel
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none of those are for tanking

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probably belfast

ripe latch
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no meta for me...MonarchSad
@coral wren do fdg

coral wren
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you honestly think i have her kekwers

ripe latch
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just do it BuckySmug

shy hazel
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β˜‘οΈ

coral wren
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btw should i get the beaver tag

shy hazel
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yes

obsidian kite
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Can i be a French main!

opaque granite
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What is the highest rank for PVP?

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I can't seem to move up from Captain, it's stuck even though the point bar is full

smoky elk
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.......> Captain (>#1000) > Rear Admiral Lower Half (1000-501) > Rear Admiral (500-301) > Vice Admiral (300-101) > Admiral (100-51) > Fleet Admiral (50-11) > Admiral-of-the-Navy (10-1)

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each rank-title take time to unlock, won't grant u one even if u rushed to high rank-number early

opaque granite
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Thank you!

frail orbit
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@crude mortar u rushed again ehh

weak latch
ripe latch
shy hazel
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why rush when u can try eos

sour oasis
ripe latch
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why rush when u can fight vs stella comp BuckySmug

safe meteor
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Warkai, FdG or Amagi, who should equip the beaver badge?

ripe latch
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amagi , better survive potential AkagiLUL

safe meteor
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sounds good

sour oasis
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I'm still not sold on extinguisher > 2nd boiler for Yukikaze. I'm looking at the pvp equipment spreadsheet, was VH armor plating + extinguisher ever an option for her?

ripe latch
sour oasis
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Eh, heavy armor vs a fleet that's going to be using HE sounds plausible. (Death vs torp-meme I know)

midnight heron
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how u using vh on yuki tho nani

sour oasis
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I prefer double boiler, but I was suggested to use extinguishers. I'm seeing my team get hit with more BB salves with 1 less boiler now. If I stick with extinguisher (and keep getting smashed by BB) would tossing the remaining boiler for vh plating be any better?

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Or are more meta BBs backline using triple HPFCR now (which is a possibility, and I really want to go double boiler again)

whole terrace
ripe latch
whole terrace
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You can go for double boiler if you prefer, but Yukikaze is particularly vulnerable to fires due to low HP, so you won't cover that weakness

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Are you having issues with boiler + FE?

midnight heron
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tbf its so much rng whether u get hit by bb shots or not regardless of how many boilers u use

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u can stack max boilers and still get cucked by stupid ai

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many times u get hit is when you backtrack to where u just moved away from for no gud reason

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or ur vg just decides to park at 1 spot for like a second

hot creek
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wew looks like I did finish my matches last night and the guy i compare my points to just happen to do an extra so i thought i was down πŸ˜“

vague token
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the important part is when you shoot

ionic magnet
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looks like everyone only got +1 at most last reset

vague token
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preload guns catch vg sometimes cause at the start defense usually pivots

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so you could have 100 boilers and it wouldnt matter cause they're doing direction changes xD

ripe latch
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roulette

midnight heron
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lately i just stop giving a fk and go full offense just cuz lul

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im still gonna miss tons of shots and take tons of dmg while enemy will just rng evade everything even when i use rudder/sg on backline so why bother

ripe latch
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china roulette SandyMeme

midnight heron
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just double sg/sg+white shell and reset WarShrug

ripe latch
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time to back enty meta

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shot this degen amagi

alpine summit
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you tend to win more than you lose if you rolling meta fleet

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the deck is still stacked in your favor

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the only times i lose is when hiryuu decides to go into the invul after both vans die

sour oasis
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🎲 Glowow

ripe latch
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i'm lose only when my ws kai cannot hit enemy hiryuu with her skill 3 times a row AkagiLUL
🎲 LuluDeer

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any equip

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old woman can't see enemy MonarchMad

alpine summit
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+2 on the chart posted in pins right now

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hoping to make my way to top 10 at least

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chart is assuming some huge +12s tho

cinder crater
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What's the best full PR fleet for pvp

sour oasis
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Are you counting DR as PR?

ripe latch
shell heron
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Full PR ships only

sour oasis
ripe latch
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yaptune azuma saint / fdg monarch georgia
one guy on washi play around this

sour oasis
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Time for KMS to shine! BiskoLUL

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Actually, counting PR3, are there enough research ships to run a compete 6-ship 1-faction fleet?

sterile bluff
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wdym "compete 6-ship 1-faction fleet"?
we can do complete 6-ship 1-faction fleets long ago without pr3

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if u mean competitive 6-ship 1-faction fleet then that's possible for a long time without pr3

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aka ijn meta PES_LMFAO

karmic forum
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@alpine summit how many ticks do you have left?

sour oasis
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@sterile bluff wait. There's six IJN PR ships in PR 1+2?

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Neptune (V) πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§
Monarch (M) πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§
Cheshire (V) πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§
Drake (V) BuckyPride πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§

Ibuki (V) πŸ‡―πŸ‡΅
Izumo (M) πŸ‡―πŸ‡΅
Kitakaze (V) πŸ‡―πŸ‡΅
Azuma (V) BuckyPride πŸ‡―πŸ‡΅

Roon (V) πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ
FdG (M) BuckyPride πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ
Mainz (V) πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ
Odin (M) πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ

Saint Louis (V) πŸ‡«πŸ‡·
Gascoigne (M) πŸ‡«πŸ‡·
Champagne (M) πŸ‡«πŸ‡·

Seattle (V) πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ
Georgia (M) πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ

vague token
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i didnt expect so few eagles

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lol

sterile bluff
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@sterile bluff wait. There's six IJN PR ships in PR 1+2?
@sour oasis oh it has to be pr? then no lmao

alpine summit
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@karmic forum 3

karmic forum
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3/10 or 8/10?

alpine summit
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8/10

sterile bluff
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lmao next american BB has to be montana

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calling it rn

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montana or ohio

karmic forum
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You're probably good for top 10 then

shy hazel
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meta pvp

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its impossible to have full one faction fleet

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unless u convert jun to ijn

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remember ijn aurora era

ripe latch
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kms AkagiLUL

obsidian kite
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Has anyone met a full French fleet maxed?

vague token
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i think i saw one

shy hazel
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isnt that the trash fleet that someone is circulating in youtube

crude mortar
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kms jun

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ijn jun

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hms jun

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mnf jun

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ffnf jun

karmic forum
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Hoo ate a -1 MutsukiStare

alpine summit
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man, almost messed that up...did 3 fights in 2:45

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was way too close lol

shell heron
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Or a +0 HehSpite

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I got a +2

frail orbit
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Annywayy
Anyone hv gasco fs5 barrage vid ASAP?

ionic magnet
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i got 0 bonus

frail orbit
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Not on wiki pls

ionic magnet
karmic forum
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Oh rip

ionic magnet
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even waited last 6 mins

karmic forum
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Aurumai is also tied with you guys

ionic magnet
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nothing moved UniYan

alpine summit
shell heron
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And I caught up

ionic magnet
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yea even the regular sandbaggers are not moving anymore

karmic forum
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Some of them just gave up as well

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Saw edwarzo go up

ionic magnet
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just get gensui and slacc

karmic forum
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Mango also has been rushing

ionic magnet
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yea thats weird

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kamui too

karmic forum
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I guess they gave up trying to catch up to you guys

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Or they don't really care

alpine summit
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do you guys actually memorize who rushes

karmic forum
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Chibi Goku

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Is the god rusher

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Always rushes

crude mortar
karmic forum
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Always at the start

ionic magnet
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more like if you sandbag every season youll know them eventually

karmic forum
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If you get him coming into a new reset consider yourself blessed

vague token
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the only weird parts are early since the pool of players is huge

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you dont know when they'll rush

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xD

karmic forum
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How many refreshes are you guys at?

frail orbit
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4

karmic forum
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I never know when to use them to fish for +1s or keep them to get better opponents into a new reset

frail orbit
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Just gib up smhw

shell heron
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I think 2 now

ionic magnet
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i got 3 left i think

alpine summit
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i used 3 resets just now to get low def guys...started fighting at 8:57 lol

frail orbit
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Am on mass sadly

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Neeway

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Gasco fs5 brg pls

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Vid

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Bili2

ionic magnet
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nothing changed with her pattern

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on fs5

karmic forum
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Getting +0 is pretty bad but missing a tick is even worse

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Play it safe or else you'll regret it

empty grove
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I missed 5

ionic magnet
shell heron
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Today is the last day for using resets freely anyways

karmic forum
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Oh right

shell heron
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Any used tomorrow is for avoiding -1s

karmic forum
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Saving resets for the end tomorrow

ionic magnet
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last day is always ded to me anyways

karmic forum
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Saturday and Sunday are dead days except the last reset usually

empty grove
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Btw

mint hornet
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was the fancy converging gascogne barrage not real 😦

karmic forum
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I guess so

empty grove
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Have fun potentially needing to use a refresh on the two lead ups to final

karmic forum
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Because nobody moves?

empty grove
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Nah

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Cause you get people under you on 6/10

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Happened to me last season

karmic forum
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How many points did you have at that point?

shell heron
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We got lucky last season and didn’t need any UniSip

karmic forum
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Seems like a problem only for those in the lead

empty grove
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Would have been like

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2602

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If I held base to EOS

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So probably 2502

ionic magnet
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was the fancy converging gascogne barrage not real 😦
yea the wiki peeps fixed the gif already

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only dmg was enhanced basically

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pattern is the same

shell heron
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I am disappointed

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I wanted f5 on her too

empty grove
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Disappointment goes hand in hand with AL

ionic magnet
vague token
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where did they even get that other gif from

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is it in the game somewhere?

mint hornet
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champagne's fate sim 5 barrage

ionic magnet
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just misinterpreted codes or smth

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cos you know AL codes can be 🍝

empty grove
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Wait

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Is HooLoo in the lead now?

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Or are you on 9/10

ionic magnet
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9/10

empty grove
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Was gonna say

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You might actually hit 2608

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Kogasa with +1 per reset & no minus should EOS on 2604

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Wait

ionic magnet
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and my list right after that first match is so terrible

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all rank 100ish

empty grove
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03, it's already the final one today

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I would have just refreshed

ionic magnet
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i did and got kamui + 3 i dont recognise

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ill bet on kamui AkagiLUL

karmic forum
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Bet on the sandbaggers at this point

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I'm convinced that Chibi Goku must be going for maximum merit

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The guy's consistency in rushing is just insane

shell heron
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Chibi is always doing that every season

alpine summit
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i can already feel it, this will be a +0 split for me

shy hazel
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maximum merit

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while i dont know what to do with 1.2 merit

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would have 1.4 if zack didnt use some

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need better content

vague token
naive dome
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is homing or non-homing torp better in pvp ?

frail orbit
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U gotta get 2 rainbow homing or u ded

naive dome
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i don't even have one. What's the 2nd best alternative ?

shy hazel
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just use them ol' hms quints

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also other than rainbow homs

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quad is also great

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in some cases better than quin torps

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if u want faster reload

frail orbit
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@elder crane where are u at now for the tix?

shell heron
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That tie didn't last long. back to being behind hoo

ionic magnet
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yea that 2nd bonus is so risky tho

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had to wait for last 6 mins

shell heron
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one match with poor rng would have ended your season

ionic magnet
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but gotta reach that 2.6k

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i saw sienna moving so BuckySmug

shy hazel
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why oh why

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why didnt hooloo got delayed

shell heron
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4 matches in 6 minutes is way too risky for me. Unless it's an easy match

shy hazel
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need more voodoo

ionic magnet
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fought 2 namaryuus and 2 memes

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so that helped kek

shell heron
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memes are an easy 30s per match HehSpite

ionic magnet
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anyways need 3 more pts for 2.6k

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kogasa has this season in the bag

shell heron
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3 should be easy

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but you need more incase of -1s at the end

empty grove
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I've had like 5 points from the final set before

ionic magnet
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yea worst case is two +9s prolly

empty grove
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It's still up to RNG

ionic magnet
shell heron
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I seen those a few times

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+3 is more common

empty grove
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Maybe we'll have two people hit 2600 for the first time in ages

shell heron
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stop it. voodoo magic will curse us both

empty grove
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No 2600s

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3 on 2599

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The curse is set

shell heron
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what is this, 2018 again

empty grove
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I'm pretty sure I hit 2600 in 2018

shell heron
empty grove
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Hmmm

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Lemme check my screenshots

ionic magnet
shell heron
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then again I don't stay up for EoS back then MakinaSmug

empty grove
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24 december 2018

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Lets see if it was 2600 tho

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EZ

ionic magnet
shy hazel
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the old ui

empty grove
shy hazel
#

kind of want it back

ripe latch
#

that refreshs killed UniFlox

ionic magnet
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bring back fox meta

shy hazel
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drifthood quit iirc

upper sparrow
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Looking that is so satisfying af LustyBlush

midnight heron
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finally got my aotn even after missing 5 matches at start MutsukiCurse

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idk how tier lists gonna work anymore as well cuz i just fought someone using rich/ws/amagi with buki/noshi/yuki and it works fking well for w/e reason

ripe latch
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tier list now not work bec we have new ships without tests on comps

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only riche

hidden robin
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is it gud idea to give Amagi VH armor + Washing machine ?

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or just go full eva ?

ripe latch
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double radar or ihr + radar

hidden robin
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ihr ?

shy hazel
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VH ARMOR

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is better for other cvs

ripe latch
shy hazel
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amagi has built in anti hit

vague token
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and a lot of base hp

hidden robin
#

does HP equation (on exercise wiki) also count HP from gears ? Or just the girls' based HP ?

vague token
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it does include it

sterile bobcat
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How many/which ships actually counter warkai in pvp? Assuming there's any real counters in the first place

ripe latch
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own war kai best counter AkagiLUL

coral wren
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why do ppl use a lot of bbs in pvp

ripe latch
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more hp then carriers

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only one viable cv - hiryuu
other - formi / cent

hardy jewel
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Should i replace warspite for richie?

coral wren
ripe latch
#

war kai with retro or not?

hardy jewel
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not

ripe latch
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replace

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but put her on center

hardy jewel
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but i have hood as flag

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should she off-flag or replace her with sarakai

ripe latch
#

its on amagi server?

hardy jewel
#

yes

ripe latch
#

any bb/cv have? around enty or hiryuu?

hardy jewel
#

this is super late
but rn my pvp backline is Enty-Richie-Hood

upper sparrow
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Thats good

ionic magnet
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warspite non kai is PortDoll

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just stick with that comp til you get her sword

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and yea put richie on flag

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hood is better on the sides for sniping hiryuu

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@hardy jewel

hardy jewel
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ayt thankss

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but my hood is lvl 117 and richie is 102

ionic magnet
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and your warspite?

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anyways thats still fine

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just get more levels

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dont you have amagi tho

hardy jewel
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nope

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wars is like 105

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i started last month or so

zenith tundra
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@shell heron finally got around testing ws richy amagi vs amagi ws fdg. 12-3 final score.

crude mortar
whole terrace
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I tried it alongside warkai amagi monarch/hiryuu, and it’s my favourite
Riche clearly adds more damage overall than hiryuu/monarch variant, especially on the vanguard
Issue is having to tank with amagi or warkai which is clearly worse
VH on amagi might make it better
Not much separates the three teams, though.

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After all ur just swapping one ship

zenith tundra
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namagi ws has 90% wr vs amagi ws fdg while i got 80% with richy over nagato

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pretty sure it's worse with richy

whole terrace
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what gun do u use on riche?

upper sparrow
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@zenith tundra u use amagi to encounter warkai snipe?

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*tanking the snipe damage

zenith tundra
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can't u see comps?

upper sparrow
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sorry im being EN my bad

whole terrace
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looks like u tanked with ws?

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I don't normally like doing that because if ur warkai dies first it puts u at a pretty big disadvantage. But the alternative is focusing FDG which is also bleh

shy hazel
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so is nagato era over now

whole terrace
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Richy better than i expected though, I was wrong about her

zenith tundra
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she is not really better other then prople liking her rng more then nagato

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i was using twin 406 on richy @whole terrace

whole terrace
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i see, ty

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I was using mk6

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will try twin 406

ripe latch
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but nagato barrage deal more dmg than riche BuckySmug

zenith tundra
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they both perform kind of the same tbh. nagato has a better max dps and a worse minimum dps so overall more rng but usually buffs make up for it when she doesn't do much

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richy if she doesn't proc barrage has no utility

upper sparrow
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The only thing we need now is a French Noshiro for pvp BuckySmug

zenith tundra
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algerie

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same useless shit

ripe latch
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fat noshi NagaShock

upper sparrow
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Noshi useless? NoshiScare

zenith tundra
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as far as cn/jp meta 100% not worth using over any of the 3 best vg ships

ripe latch
#

nanoda better

whole terrace
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Noshi still a lot better than options outside those three

zenith tundra
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and still 100% useless if u have dev 30 azuma

whole terrace
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Have u tried swapping noshiro in for yuki or juneau?

upper sparrow
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useless if u have dev 30 azuma

YEP

zenith tundra
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i did try swapping noshiro for juneau when testing against some comps without juneau or instead of azuma when opponent was not using azuma but she never really stand out as a better unit

upper sparrow
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Yeah i"ll get her.... In next 3 month probably AkagiLUL

zenith tundra
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i did specify cn/jp meta in my statement but i guess people didn't notice that

whole terrace
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i noticed. Biggest benefit is protecting lead juneau/azuma from getting blown up so it helps with consistency. It works on EN since torps are still an issue and lower dev azuma's

elder crane
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Noshiro has some uses for a more offensively-oriented build as well
None of those are better than standard meta

fossil yarrow
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Damn close enough

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Sigh...

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But I got top 10 anyways

shy hazel
#

the countdown to season end begins

shy hazel
#

raven

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oh

sour oasis
#

Barring any bonuses, I'll have +112 (100?) ladder points compared to a pure rusher... But I slept through a refresh NickySleep so it doesn't matterPortDoll
The catch up system sorta works.

somber axle
#

Hi PVP, is 102 Juneau good to use? I need her to start getting exp faster.

proper sorrel
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might as well to get her leveled up

somber axle
#

Alright, thanks.

elder crane
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stick her in middle of vanguard and it shouldn't be too bad

somber axle
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That's Ayaya's spot since she's most squishy.

elder crane
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Well, if you put Ayaya mid instead of a 102 Juneau, you ayaya will be not-mid very soon, and not get Juneau's heal PortDoll

somber axle
#

Are you saying Aya will die before Juneau and not get her heal?

elder crane
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no, I mean Jun will die really fast

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once Jun dies, Aya won't be mid anyways

shy hazel
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u need 110 for any ship

sour oasis
#

Well, only if your expectation for pvp is to win. Picking and choosing easier opponents and slowly getting xp to form a strong fleet is the first step.

elder crane
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and she'll die so fast that Aya won't get any value off her heal, for the most part

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might as well stick Jun in mid and Aya at the rear, so Aya at least gets more value off the heal

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I'm assuming aya is at least 10 levels higher, if she's lower, then yeah, Aya in middle

somber axle
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Aya is 119

elder crane
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yeah, for sure Jun in mid

somber axle
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Ok

elder crane
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at those levels, Jun prolly has around half the eHP of aya, lol

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maybe lower

sour oasis
#

Two back to back U researches. Mostly steam catapults. (Stupid 🎲)

somber axle
sour oasis
#

That looks like an able offense. Don't even need Nagato and Hiryu.

somber axle
#

I don't think JB actually contributes much, she's mainly there to tank Warspite.

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Because Amagi does not want to.

vague token
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ill try gascan fate 5 eventually, i dont think jb adds anything to rich

elder crane
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Richi+JB fails to smack enemy vanguard about half as often as just Richi alone, it's fiiine

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JB very rarely RNGing a squisher enemy main fleet unit is also hilarious

vague token
#

kek

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im sure it's fine

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i just dont like having to take a cd penalty for the preload gamble

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rich is like perfection cause you can get preload and no cd penalty xD

elder crane
#

On that note, I wonder if something like Richi Formi Hiryuu Jeanne Aurora Azuma could work

somber axle
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If I only field one carrier in JB's slot, who should it be? and is it worth it?

vague token
#

im using rich/formi/hiryuu atm

elder crane
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given Jeanne's shield actually doesn't set evarate to 0 (unlike lusty), it might help with aurora's Nagato issues

vague token
#

hiryuu is uh

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very volatile

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if you dont proc fc she's sub azuma dps usually

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eg you could have just had literally anyone else be more useful

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but then you proc final counter and you get a billion planes on screen

elder crane
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Well, literally only matches where she procs FC matters

vague token
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and she hits 30k XD

elder crane
#

if she doesn't proc FC, match must've been an easy win WarShrug

vague token
#

it's just annoying how feast/famine it is

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cause it's basically, you had either 2 mains carry you

elder crane
#

Also Richi JB Hiryuu is starting to have issues with specifically Namaryuu
Nagato barrage hurts
Richi-JB can't outtrade Namagi unless my vanguard is alive, and ofc you need your Hiryuu to proc after theirs to win

vague token
#

or you probably would have lost

#

but because FC is so strong

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you didnt lose

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xD

elder crane
#

I think vs the best teams I'm around 70%ish winrate, which is PortDoll

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Any other team so far though has been 85+%

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Warkai setups especially
either they can't kill vanguard and I outtrade them
or Hiryuu FC very stronk lol

vague token
#

yeh

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i cant decide on third vg with rich/hiryuu/formi

elder crane
#

what's Jeanne's shield's HP again in PvP?

vague token
#

uh

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6% of base 3223

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so probably pearl/boiler adds 700 or w/e

#

so like 6% of 3900?

#

then pvp multiplier?

elder crane
#

so like 550 ish

vague token
#

yeh

elder crane
#

Azuma hits for less than that per shot, right?

vague token
#

my dev 26 azuma hits for 300-350

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per shell

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on offense

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defense would do less

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although that's no nagato

elder crane
#

so can tank 1 azuma shot without breaking

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evarate vs azuma is 60%ish?

vague token
#

ish

elder crane
#

hmmm, Jeanne shield might be able to survive Azuma then, to make it to Nagato

vague token
#

i guess i could try jeanne

elder crane
#

if that works out, should help Aurora consistently make it to 20 s for Richi/Formi

vague token
#

only downside is juneau has to be lead or triple bb will just ignore her

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xD

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the struggle

elder crane
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I don't use Juneau in the setup actually

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lean on Hiryuu harder CleveXD

vague token
#

fair enough kek

elder crane
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Jeanne Aurora Azuma is the plan
Delet vanguard, out-trade to proc their Hiryuu if they have it, Hiryuu cleans up

vague token
#

yeh

elder crane
#

problem is my jeanne is lv107/95aff right now I think

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Maybe I'll try Belfast for now?

vague token
#

when in doubt use noshiro

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maybe

elder crane
#

Issue is that Aurora has issues consistently making it to 20 s

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Mostly because Nagato barrage, with a dash of Azuma, I think PortDoll

vague token
#

aurora mid to hide?

elder crane
#

that's with Aurora mid CleveXD

vague token
#

swap to chapayev for more hp but only hits ykkz

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xD

ripe latch
#

with azuma meta belfast not bad

glad mulch
#

is ibuki can work better than jintsuu when paired with noshiro and yukikaze?

ripe latch
#

very slow, if using - boiler + torp , other - free food . someone play with pearl + boiler/torp and this true degen

glad mulch
#

Why not wash machine

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My Ibuki lost DMG after firing her first 2 torpedoes, and her survivability was poor compared to jintsuu

ripe latch
#

jintsu better , but not enough hp to tanky

glad mulch
#

so far with jintsuu and noshiro I can survived from big 7

ripe latch
#

u afraid nagato barrage? MutsukiStare

glad mulch
#

just want to try ibuki because it's finished with D30

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@ripe latchyup, as possible I keep away from namagi

ripe latch
#

put juneau AkagiLUL

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trp comp not have much hp to tanky this barrage , only yuki can survive

elder crane
#

Ibuki on offense is PortDoll

#

that setup works, it's just worse than stall though
on defense, it's much better

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more likely to hit torps, and RNG is a good thing

ripe latch
#

UniFlox trp team on def

glad mulch
#

Well thx guys

I just don't have enough DMG when using juneau

ripe latch
sterile bluff
#

Should i use my catchup on Smilebuki or extremeNep ? ThinkSex

ripe latch
#

why yaptune if now we have drake?

sterile bluff
#

Also niko i rly like ur pfp pogU

ripe latch
sterile bluff
#

I RLY like it pogGasm

proper sorrel
sterile bluff
#

But srsly tho Smilebuki or extremeNep

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Catchup is only enuf to d30 one of them

proper sorrel
#

idk from a pvp perspective ibuki

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there are some other ships you can use that can fill a similar role to neptune anyways

sterile bluff
#

Ibuki better than nep for pvp?

elder crane
#

Ibuki for uniqueness, Nep for being generally good but outclassed by better

ripe latch
#

choose saint bec we have riche , she buff work on pvp AkagiLUL

sterile bluff
#

Outclassed by who?

elder crane
#

Noshiro and Azuma in PvP
a lot of shit in PvE, but I think technically only minnie fairly strictly so

proper sorrel
#

neptune is still the best mob fleet tank, but there are other ships like minneapolis who can fulfill neptune's role

elder crane
#

and Sheff/Bel/Sanrui in PvP is about as good

sterile bluff
#

So shes basically the best i can get cuz i dont have noshi nor d30 azuma πŸ™‚

orchid forge
#

hello I am noob

proper sorrel
#

hello noob, im dad

sterile bluff
orchid forge
#

I was wondering about pvp meta

sterile bluff
#

Fdg warspite amagi

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LMAO

coral wren
#

Hi noob zWave

sterile bluff
#

have a nice day πŸ™‚

orchid forge
#

my jank warspite team beat nagato team in pvp for first times these days

#

and is confuse me

proper sorrel
#

rng

elder crane
#

you don't really need Nep for mob fleet though
boss is the troublesome one when it comes to needing a strong fleet
and Nep doesn't perform that well in reduced-ship fleets

ripe latch
#

and Sheff/Bel/Sanrui in PvP is about as good
@elder crane usless . if u want survive comp - sheff juneau bel

orchid forge
#

ohh

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is nagato team superior

elder crane
#

I mean one of those three

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duh

ripe latch
elder crane
#

if you're running stall, Juneau and ykkz is nonegotiable

#

the only question is third option

proper sorrel
#

isn't it better to use jda instead of bel?

elder crane
#

Sheff/Bel/Sanrui/Nep are all fairly comparable
Noshiro/Azuma are straight-up better

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jda has CA speed, so PortDoll

proper sorrel
#

was she that slow? i so forgot eek

elder crane
#

still maybe just as good, probably not better, haven't seen anyone test it properly though

ripe latch
#

bell smoke + 3 ihr = invinsible PortDoll

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so this comp .. degen

elder crane
#

= catch every BB shell and bomb when smoke not active

#

and dies

ripe latch
#

bb missed

elder crane
#

or if they leave smoke

#

not outside of smoke

#

any good team will be running accuracy equip on BBs

ripe latch
#

double radar SandyMeme

elder crane
#

main problem with IHR on vanguard is that everything other than torps that's threatening to vanguard is dealt with better by simply outrunning it

proper sorrel
#

could you technically nullify bel's smoke with sendai's flare

elder crane
#

and it's already hard enough to fit in enough boilers usually

#

yes

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but as a ship, Bel >> Sendai for the most part, so you still end up behind

ripe latch
#

sendai flare radius fixed so now she usless

elder crane
#

that and vs accuracy-equip BB/C and vs vanguard units in general, IHR is not actually more eHP than just a toolkit lol

#

not 120/200 smh

ripe latch
#

never oath

elder crane
#

she has a good run for me, πŸ‡«

#

Hmm, I wonder, how many oathed ships do I have that are permanently retired?

ripe latch
#

before fix , they debuff + nagato buff = rip dev20-25 azuma from first salvo

proper sorrel
#

do you have a oathed fortune or smh? lol

elder crane
#

problem with that is sendai = RIP Sendai
BuckyPride

ripe latch
#

double boiler and go BuckyPride

elder crane
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haven't actually oathed fortune actually

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Azuma herself can just gun her down, lol

karmic forum
#

I oathed Sendai and she's still at 110 AkagiLUL

crude mortar
#

what sendai bug?

elder crane
#

Washington, SoDak, Hood, Baka, Suruga, Portland, Uni, Sendai, Dunkek
and ofc waifus
Laffey, Yuudachi, Takao, Atago, Eugen, Cleveland, Edinburgh
and a few I'll probably never use, but technically maybe,
Jintsuu, Bismarck, Liepzig

ripe latch
#

Takao, Atago

SeattleOfCulture

sterile bluff
#

ok i think ima go for nep instead of ibuki since nep is 0.5 on tierlist and ibuki is 1 KEKBombHighFPS

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logic 100 weSmart

proper sorrel
sterile bluff
#

what? BuckySmug

elder crane
#

oh shit I need to do 3 matches

sterile bluff
#

better hurry BOI

elder crane
#

who put Ibuki at T1 lmoa

#

shit tierlist

sterile bluff
#

idfk

elder crane
#

oh, for PvP? then sure

sterile bluff
#

yea

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LMAO

crude mortar
#

ima use ibuki for the sake of triggering people

sterile bluff
#

this is pvp channel after all BuckySmug

midnight heron
#

how dare u trigger me

elder crane
#

though that's outdated anyways

proper sorrel
#

go for neither and shill Izumo BuckySmug

elder crane
#

with better stall options out, Nep should be T1 with Ibuki probably

sterile bluff
#

wut r the better options?

crude mortar
sterile bluff
#

besides azuma and noshi

alpine summit
crude mortar
#

yes

elder crane
#

literally those two, but they're so much better that it hits her viability pretty hard imo

sterile bluff
#

so only 2 better options that i don't have

elder crane
#

stall is about being consistent, but no point in being consistent if they're consistently better

proper sorrel
#

i would wait another reset?

shell heron
#

I check their score first. If its not more than 10 below me I keep them

sterile bluff
#

so nep is still the best i can get rn πŸ™‚

proper sorrel
#

since you're at 5/10, you can wait a lil longer

elder crane
#

Ibuki setups on offense ngl probably do just as well on offense vs Noshiro and/or Azuma setups than Nep does

proper sorrel
#

nvm

shell heron
#

I see your +2 this reset as well hoo.

elder crane
#

I took a -1 for my mistakes MogamiSigh

sterile bluff
#

i have since given up on twerpmemes pepe

elder crane
#

had to take a +9 for a fast fight

sterile bluff
#

they never fkin hit on offense Omegalilwoo

crude mortar
#

resetmore

elder crane
#

Ibuki you build as a hybrid if you're not memeing

sterile bluff
#

offense AI is so fkin stupid

elder crane
#

she's actually fairly tanky

alpine summit
#

I've had 2 plus 0 splits this season so I don't think I can expect too high

sterile bluff
#

tbh i should also consider pve too since i can only d30 one of them ThinkSex

crude mortar
#

im running 6 rainbow for the sake of triggering people

elder crane
#

PvE Ibuki is T0 torp goddess, along with Aya, situational which is better

alpine summit
#

And plus 1 splits seem so common....

sterile bluff
#

yea but... i don't rly need trp goddess rn ThinkSex

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omg this decision is so hard Omegalilwoo

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i wish i could have enuf catchup bps to d30 both of them PepeHands

elder crane
#

Nep is soft-outclassed by a ton of stuff for PvE imo PortDoll

sterile bluff
#

like wut tho

elder crane
#

and Minnie arguably hard-outclasses her

#

anything tanky basically

#

full fleet = you're running a healer anyways, and leaning on main fleet for DpS, imo

sterile bluff
#

welp i'd have to ask gph about this

ionic magnet
#

I see your +2 this reset as well hoo.
@shell heron yea cos of the random rank 2 food on 4th match AkagiLUL

ripe latch
proper sorrel
#

pog