pvp

[sterile bluff]

dewit!

get her

let her thicc thighs smother the enemy

[crisp skiff]

Might have to avoid pvp for now and focus on getting Monarch and get my HMS ships fully upgraded.

[sterile bluff]

i am turning him into a fellow HMS of culture

[ripe latch]

well , imagine build china wall on amagi to conquer server

[shell heron]

time to become food. going to move til I get AotN

[shell heron]

I moved. got 2 more matches left but it's gonna be a +9 and possible +8

[inner zenith]

just pvp and work on HMS ships at the same time 👀

[sour oasis]

PvP xp goes to Research right?

[crisp skiff]

no

Only on Sortie

[sour oasis]

I hoped too much.

Heh, I see Caylm at #4 on Avrora. Don't tell me you still have tickets left.

[shell heron]

2 more

I refuse to eat a +9

[sour oasis]

Not even for... +10 merit?

[plain carbon]

@crisp skiff imo you cant get much better than this

[ripe latch]

some good food for my torps

[ionic magnet]

i can see the tears from that nanoda

[ripe latch]

[crisp skiff]

If only I have that T0 Main gun which I don't have

[plain carbon]

Yeah french event

I only have 2

[ionic magnet]

big waste to use it on ykkz

[plain carbon]

its not, the fire rate is great for her skill

[ionic magnet]

esp when you only have 2

if you want fire rate you slap 76mm

if you want AA you go 100mm

only those two no other guns are acceptable

[crisp skiff]

The Rainbow torps is not good on Yuki

[ripe latch]

he forgot stag on yuki to get more dmg from this gun

[crisp skiff]

I've gived the rainbow torps on my Bel

[plain carbon]

The rainbow torps are great, just the first salvo melts

[ripe latch]

[plain carbon]

You sound like the typical heavy cruiser user in pvp @ripe latch

[ripe latch]

only cl

maybe up azuma lvl and put on def..

but food

[ionic magnet]

need more food

cant catch famine

[ripe latch]

ppl put yuki on tank slot

with noshiro on corp

more food

[crisp skiff]

Also I really don't have the high performance fire control radar

[ripe latch]

refresh to vs or not

[ionic magnet]

[plain carbon]

uses Ibuki

thats a free win

heavy cruiser users in PvP

[crisp skiff]

cv trash tier?

[ionic magnet]

depends which cv are we talking about

[ripe latch]

make cv hms corp and kill every fleet without hiryuu

better see how yuki die with 6k hp after 2torps...

[ionic magnet]

thats a free win
i wish

[upper sparrow]

free win

[plain carbon]

heacy cruisers are the worst in PvP

[ripe latch]

[ionic magnet]

you spelled destroyers wrong

[plain carbon]

🥱 shouldn't discuss with lobobs

[crisp skiff]

That kinda makes Ibuki sad

[upper sparrow]

oh man he is the one who say rudder+oxy torp as ykkz BiS, nvm then

also 138.6mm on yuki

[plain carbon]

I only hear lowbob cries.
Sad you cant direct pvp with people to show them whats really good.

GvG needs to come

[upper sparrow]

[ripe latch]

u not understand , its carry yuki

[ionic magnet]

wait i thought youre just memeing

you mean youre actually serious

[upper sparrow]

do you mean make ykkz into dps god @ripe latch

[ripe latch]

if he hate CA on pvp , i'm can put 6 boilers and found him

@upper sparrow try all variants , but she dps not really good

even with stag

[plain carbon]

eh, who cares, I hit rank 1 either way.
I'm out. Too much stupidity here.

[ripe latch]

[upper sparrow]

rank 1 as food

[ripe latch]

food found food?

[ionic magnet]

if youre not willing to listen, not my loss

[upper sparrow]

we love u nozo fan boy, ur rank 1 is mean food for us

[ripe latch]

maybe found him and kill with foxs + ihr?

[upper sparrow]

let food be food for eternity, dont tell him

[plain carbon]

@ripe latch thats my old setup, yes.

taht was before warspite retro was out

[ripe latch]

[plain carbon]

Fucking lowbobs, people like you dont need to realize how inferior they are.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/459799032714362892/695538915435741194/boi_done.gif

[ripe latch]

yuki funeral

with ihr + rainbow

[upper sparrow]

ok rank 1, we are plebs compared to u

[ionic magnet]

LOL

[shy hazel]

Hello Food with attitude

I like that

now get out

[sour oasis]

Form giant Megazord!

[ionic magnet]

GvG when

tho my guild is rotting rn

[shy hazel]

when i start playing again

[ionic magnet]

[sour oasis]

[ionic magnet]

i thought you quit already

oh wait zack got reno

[shy hazel]

i mean yes and no

zack plays it and i never touch it

[shell heron]

hooo boy. I saw what was the recommended yuki build.

sure is something

[ripe latch]

food run out

[ionic magnet]

i'll take a break too when this bitch west virginia finally drops

[shell heron]

non suppressor yuki means some nice roasting by HE

🔥

[ripe latch]

foodyuki

ppl play z23 on amagi...

[ionic magnet]

you got problems with nimi?

[shell heron]

yukikaze is the true starter

[ripe latch]

sure , but random give me 20 commons on 25 builds

another common

[shy hazel]

nimi is trash

[ionic magnet]

dirty laffey user

[shell heron]

not using javelin

[ripe latch]

easy way - clear 3-1 / 4-4 , get hellcat and divebomber , put on sara and kill anyone

but get enty so lucky

[coral wren]

so im missing yuki, what pvp vanguard can i go for? i have belfap and juneau

[elder crane]

can we see what you have as options?

[coral wren]

um it is the new server... so nothing except the 2 above mentioned, and lets say portland and jabulin.

[sour oasis]

Whatever kills your opponents. They should be equally weak.

Portland will probably be a decent stopgap and as a bonus you can use her on campaign.
If you are masochistic, you can use Eldredge...
Belfast will eventuality be replaced too. You can try to build up a torpedo fleet once you unlock Ayanami (eventually Jintsu).

[crisp skiff]

So if I hit the wifi button on my phone while I'm about to lose in a exercise match will it not count as a lost?

[sour oasis]

you can also pause and leave

[crisp skiff]

kk

[ripe latch]

porty bel and yuki

[crisp skiff]

It worked tysm

[ripe latch]

gif how now pvp work on amagi
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/497012141120028673.gif?v=1

[crisp skiff]

nvm it started to work

[past egret]

Pvp on Amagi server

[coral wren]

heh

ill try to dominate there

since im a loser in avrora

[elder crane]

if you're starting in Amagi server, PvP is all about ship levels for many weeks

idc if you have a better fleet, I have 20 more levels, ez win

[sour oasis]

🚜

[elder crane]

alternatively
you're 20 levels down?
glhf
you might even have trouble with ungeared enemies if you're 20 levels down, lol

[upper sparrow]

just play

[sour oasis]

Don't stop playing until you're

[ripe latch]

alternatively
you're 20 levels down?
glhf
you might even have trouble with ungeared enemies if you're 20 levels down, lol
@elder crane not trouble but hard

58 lvl vs 75

ppl have akagi from 10 runs

u try 30 - nothing

[coral wren]

okay then

now moving on to my avrora account, is it worth exchanging for F4U in core data shop?

its a gold one.

[ripe latch]

someone buy oil to rush lvl

[coral wren]

lmfaooo

[upper sparrow]

the key to conquer amagi server
-just play
-just get lucky on build ship

[coral wren]

they gon realise its a waste

ye

i got belfap there

[elder crane]

VF-17 best fighter in PvP in general

[coral wren]

but im using akaga

[elder crane]

in PvP, it's between that and reppu

[coral wren]

and im afraid that both dont have the same planes

should i still use it?

[elder crane]

why would you want them to have the same planes in particular

[coral wren]

umm ive just heard rumors that having the same speed helps

looks like im mistaken

aight then ill grab the plane

[elder crane]

they don't even have the same slot effs, which might make you want to gear them diff on planes

[coral wren]

decided akagi, she has 125%

my oath on her is also 200 so thats gonna help

[ripe latch]

farm f4u/bf109 / barracuda / helldiver

[coral wren]

next is torp bomber

[upper sparrow]

is that akagi on amagi server

[coral wren]

what are the good ones.

[elder crane]

yep
VF-17 Akagi and Reppu Kaga make sense based on what their effs are
since bomb damage is affected by effs but not suicide
ofc both same plane makes sense too depending on what you want
just the other way around, well, you better have a good reason to do that

[coral wren]

nah not akagi on amagi xD

its akagi on avrora

ill get akagi on amagi

trust me

i will.

i dont care how long it takes

[upper sparrow]

good luck then

[coral wren]

wait bluerendar

[elder crane]

both cuda, both ryuus, or 818 Akagi and Ryuu Kaga would be my selection

[ripe latch]

where my yuki food

[coral wren]

oh

ya 818 and ryuusei

is ryuusei farmable in visitors died in red

is it in war archive

[frail orbit]

Ye

Same w/ reppu

[coral wren]

ooo

i should probably grab a reppu for kaga

[frail orbit]

Also to note Akaga were basically

[coral wren]

its better than hellcat right

[frail orbit]

Brainded atm

[coral wren]

lmao

its my waifu and i dont have nugget or amagi

[frail orbit]

Reppu burst AA better tbh

[coral wren]

so... ye thats what i do

i see...

[frail orbit]

As in

Kill planes ASAP

Depends whether ur Reppu being a bait or not

[elder crane]

Ehh
on AA it's shitty
but who cares about that in PvP

in PvE it becomes an issue

[frail orbit]

Besides

[coral wren]

ohh

[frail orbit]

We got Pirates

[elder crane]

the issue is that the fast flight speed is actively counterproductive in PvE

[frail orbit]

For AA

I meant Rendar

Everyone gonna go Akaga right

[elder crane]

Nah, WaSD meta for sure I think, until PRs come online

[frail orbit]

This assuming gonna go on mirror

[elder crane]

if nothing good reruns before then, it'll be HMS > USN but with both in meta, probably

[frail orbit]

Ahh well WASDNC/WASDE

[elder crane]

WaSDH or WaSDE probably

Maybe WaSD-Hiryuuretro?

[coral wren]

new server?

[elder crane]

other one will be Hood/Cent/QE HMS

[frail orbit]

Just Amagi server being so 2018

[elder crane]

with eventually Monarch over Hood, I think

[frail orbit]

Brings back memories smhw

[elder crane]

basically CN meta pre-Nagato I would think

[coral wren]

hmm

what about akaga

can i beat those fleets with akaga

[elder crane]

Akaga was shit without Nagato/Amagi

[coral wren]

ahhh i see....

whats a good middle i should go with then

in the new server

[sour oasis]

Akaga was great when the only counter was Enty

[elder crane]

it was, like, not unusable, but like

[coral wren]

ill use akaga and wait for nugget to come

[elder crane]

it's basically the level of Nakaga right now

[coral wren]

sad

[frail orbit]

^

[elder crane]

which is just

[coral wren]

cri

but umm whats a good middle

with akaga

in the new server currently

il farm for them im pretty sure

[frail orbit]

Nothing

[coral wren]

eh..

[elder crane]

btw
even without WaSD
base HMS > base AKaga

[frail orbit]

Unless

[sour oasis]

Biggest ship you got

[frail orbit]

U want Hakaga

[elder crane]

that's QE Hood Warspite (no retro)

[coral wren]

hood?

[frail orbit]

But then

Derp

[coral wren]

i see... hood...

aight then

its decided.

[sour oasis]

Why not

[ripe latch]

hiryuu for akaga corp...

[elder crane]

Hood or Enty basically, and neither are that good in that setup

[frail orbit]

Better go on HMS

[coral wren]

what about vanguard

[frail orbit]

Tbh

[coral wren]

meh

[elder crane]

That's the one wildcard I would say

[frail orbit]

VG remains the same

[coral wren]

?

[elder crane]

Hiryuu retrofit

[coral wren]

ohhhh

[frail orbit]

Yuki Jun XX

[coral wren]

i can use hiryuu??

nani

[frail orbit]

Ye

[coral wren]

sounds like something

INteresting

[sour oasis]

I would be deadass surprised if there was a Hiryu retro in Amagi right now

[coral wren]

akaga, but i dont die...

thats cool

[frail orbit]

Hiryu if for invulnerability

But not today

[coral wren]

lmao

im ditching hood then

heh

[ripe latch]

hiryuu give u more time to spam airstrikes from akaga

if enemy not die - repeat

[elder crane]

Hood would be my focus probably

since easy to level in PvE

[coral wren]

i see...

[elder crane]

again, levels > all for now

[coral wren]

mhmm

[elder crane]

especially if it's on a pretty good ship

[frail orbit]

Also centaur too

[coral wren]

my moods are low

so cant do much

[elder crane]

Cent is like, glhf

[coral wren]

not mine, my ships

:p

[frail orbit]

Long lasting ones

[elder crane]

0.6% for her, I think?

[frail orbit]

Ye

[coral wren]

ew

[elder crane]

so yeah, hf

[frail orbit]

But if u got her anyway

[coral wren]

my friend pulled cent and atago in their first week of playing

one day ill chop down their hand and use it for building

[frail orbit]

Kill him now

[ripe latch]

but cent needs gold planes , now 2bb > any cv corp

[elder crane]

Yep, if you got Cent, go Hood/QE/Cent for sure imo

[coral wren]

lmao

i see..

ill be loyal to mein cult

akaga best

[frail orbit]

Well

Depends

[coral wren]

lmao

i get it

[elder crane]

the problem with Akaga is that you give yourself like a 2-3 week handicap

[frail orbit]

Pirates+Reppu on her

[coral wren]

so the VG um

[elder crane]

cause that's how long it takes to farm them

[frail orbit]

Torp gonna be Ryusei

[coral wren]

haha

its okay

[frail orbit]

Why not

[elder crane]

and staying in 3-4 that long will mean you're wayy behind on levels

[coral wren]

i got them both in 3 days i think my first time...

should be fine

[frail orbit]

Unless u want crash dmg but
Is that the point with Centaur on non FC comp?

[coral wren]

[elder crane]

average is 200 runs

[coral wren]

lmao

i see

[elder crane]

so glhf

[coral wren]

it okay

[elder crane]

took me 10 days

[coral wren]

what about VG tho

im more concerned

i have belfap only

yuki might just say no u

[ripe latch]

not donator

46 lvl

[frail orbit]

Yuki/Jun/Belfap

[elder crane]

yep, that's also why I think Cent is bait

[frail orbit]

Or

[elder crane]

better to pull light for Ykkz

[frail orbit]

Anything yuki/jun

[coral wren]

hm

so i have to get yuki

ew

before her i think just portland then

[frail orbit]

Port slow tbh

At least on this level

[coral wren]

oh

then starters maybe

[frail orbit]

Her lumbering tatas kinda derp atm

[coral wren]

hmm

[frail orbit]

Nimi, perhaps? But kinda slow too
Rendar, handle this one okies xD

[elder crane]

Port is fine cause PvE leveling basically

which is why Jun might be a bit questionable

[coral wren]

is leveling her hard?

[frail orbit]

Ye that too

At this level Jun is basically

Ded too fast

[elder crane]

Jun isn't too bad tbh
but the low HP multiplier at low levels isn't going to do her any favors

[frail orbit]

But I suppose she gonna go in it anyway

No one already have pearl rn

[coral wren]

oh yea the pearl..

4 ships, 13 stars.

how do i get there the fastest

[upper sparrow]

the issue is that the fast flight speed is actively counterproductive in PvE

wdym? @elder crane

[elder crane]

faster flight speed = reaches end of screen faster = less time to shoot at planes

which doesn't matter in PvP, where being shot at less matters more (and baiting AA)
in PvE though,

[upper sparrow]

is that so?

[elder crane]

which also means avgas is super pepega in PvE if you need plane AA

[vague token]

and reppuu

dont use reppuu in pve unless it's all you have

[frail orbit]

^

Basically

PVE and PVP diverged so much

[karmic forum]

I use reppuu in PvE when AA doesn't matter

Although they'll probably be replaced by VF-17s as I get more

[sterile bluff]

i wonder what would happen if u used namaryuu for 13-4

[karmic forum]

If anyone has the oil and access to 13-4 feel free to test that out

Probably dies to planes is my guess

[sterile bluff]

i wanna test it out if when i get namagi

[frail orbit]

Closest thing we got for that

Is Nakaga on 13-4 mob

Even then its basically suicide

On boss perhaps
But someone tested it on safe, and I personally never used that on lethal so

Since I triforced my way through 13 4 lethal with Double E cent

[sterile bluff]

on hempy's guide he said he used nagato + bunnies

it's extremely rng but it works

[vague token]

team burning level progress is going well

chappy 105, kirishima 115, bremington 100, gascan u 100

[forest lake]

[vague token]

wish we had more armor plating

[drowsy heron]

Should I use both hiryuu and soryuu in PvP team or only hiryuu? (playing on Amagi)

[proper sorrel]

you can use both right now i guess

[drowsy heron]

I have Hood and saratoga

[proper sorrel]

then again Washington + South Dakota + Hiryuu/Enterprise would be the most common main ships once people can get hands on south dakota imo

[drowsy heron]

Ok thanks for the answer 👍

[coral wren]

Almost 3 min pvp

[proper sorrel]

ah yes

[vague token]

[fallow wren]

Almost 3 min pvp
obviously you haven't pvped in amagi

[proper sorrel]

why are your pvps taking that long 👀

[fallow wren]

i have no equips and people running unicorn

i can't get anything good out of tech boxes

[proper sorrel]

then grind on maps

[fallow wren]

i have 4 oil when i got akagi yesterday

[proper sorrel]

oh sh

[fallow wren]

i guess it's time

[proper sorrel]

im skipping the bunnies and foxes and just trying to pull enterprise off special build

[fallow wren]

i've been pulling from heavy only so i have no CVs

[proper sorrel]

i'd like it within 3 or 4 days from now

[fallow wren]

if it weren't for akagi drop i can't even do 1-4 hard lol

[runic sorrel]

[proper sorrel]

i'm gathering retrofit blueprints from 2-1 for laffey kai

[runic sorrel]

You guys make a new account in amagi server?

[proper sorrel]

my only account on EN

[fallow wren]

i have 3 accounts now on EN

[runic sorrel]

[fallow wren]

i'm gathering retrofit blueprints from 2-1 for laffey kai
port kai > laffey kai don't @ me

[runic sorrel]

[proper sorrel]

i am also quite fixated on those 2

port or laffey.. port or laffey..

[runic sorrel]

I always put port Kai in my team

Best girl

[proper sorrel]

to pvp?

[runic sorrel]

Yes

[fallow wren]

port kai tanks for so long its great

[runic sorrel]

[fallow wren]

are u attempting FW at all

or are u just focusing on getting to a higher world

[proper sorrel]

rushing to 6-4

[runic sorrel]

I'm doing FW

Im grinding exp and looking for some ship drop

[proper sorrel]

though i would like a ship to replace my tai yuan in my mob fleet

[drowsy heron]

What is FW?

[fallow wren]

fallen wings

it's in archieve

[drowsy heron]

👍

I grinded 3-2 all day yesterday finally got hiryuu so now I'm leveling her up to go in my mob fleet

[proper sorrel]

very nice

[ripe latch]

noshiro with pearl...

108lvl..

[ripe latch]

when u buy coubs and more from akashi shop

[sterile bluff]

ehh i would save cubes on amagi for ce

[midnight heron]

no guarantee its coming anytime soon tho

[sterile bluff]

im pretty damn sure its next event or sometime following that

[shell heron]

I saw portland mentioned again

[ripe latch]

[sour oasis]

Huh. Donald Trump (Avrora) is way too lucky with their +1s. I swear I was +6 them last weekend, but I'm now I'm probably -8.

[coral wren]

Just level them up and retro Warspite right?

[sterile bluff]

[ripe latch]

but u have sword to finish retro?

[coral wren]

Yep

[eager cedar]

Take out Baltimore for Juneau

[coral wren]

Don't have Juneau

[ripe latch]

[coral wren]

Who could I temporarily replace Juneau with?

[ripe latch]

just rush 7-2/8-4 .6-3 , easy to take

[sterile bluff]

how do u not have juneau

[ripe latch]

u fleet need heal

on pvp

[shell heron]

nobody understands the value of juneau jesus until they scrapped a bunch

but getting one shouldn't be too hard

her heal on death is too good

[sour oasis]

You can try to get a tank to replace Jesus, but might as well go all in on torpedoes at that point. (And don't forget the pearl)

[sterile bluff]

twerpmemes

allow me to introduce u to my religion

[coral wren]

@sour oasis So could I use Eugen in Jesus's stead?

[sterile bluff]

nah

eugen bad

just go twerpmeme

do u have noshi?

jintsuu

[coral wren]

Nope

[sour oasis]

Just double down on offense

[sterile bluff]

non of those 2?

ibuki?

[coral wren]

I only got Ryuhou and Suruga from that event

[sour oasis]

When you lack defense, just add more offense.

[sterile bluff]

ok then get jintsuu

she's in 10-4 i think

pls tell me u have ayaya

[coral wren]

Nope

[sour oasis]

Though if they're going to grind, Juneau should be easier to get...

[sterile bluff]

^^^

[coral wren]

I'm low level

[sterile bluff]

u r low level...

and u have formi and centaur...

[sour oasis]

What how

[sterile bluff]

bro i've been trying to pull centaur for months

what commander lv r u?

[coral wren]

Like 60-70

[sterile bluff]

[sour oasis]

And they're all near level 80

[coral wren]

Lemme check

[sterile bluff]

im being megatrolled by AL XD, all this time still no centaur

wishing well when

[sour oasis]

When I was level 60, most my ships were level 70.

[coral wren]

Ah I overestimated

54

I mean 64

[ripe latch]

[sour oasis]

That S-rank 🎲

[sterile bluff]

im legit like...

[ripe latch]

so early to come pvp

[coral wren]

Eh?

[sterile bluff]

btw check ur lab

[sour oasis]

Are you on Amagi server?

[sterile bluff]

ur research is finished

NO FUCKING WAY

[coral wren]

@sour oasis Sandy

[sour oasis]

Worth an ask

[sterile bluff]

ahh, my server then

[coral wren]

And I don't have a single PR yet

[sterile bluff]

get ibuki for twerpmemes

[sour oasis]

Yeah. You just lose @ PvP until you get a good team of level 115

[coral wren]

I've been working on Saint Louis for months. On the 2000000 exp

[sterile bluff]

oh no, not saint

[sour oasis]

PvP for you is just a source of merit and exp

[coral wren]

About half way done with that. Just have to finish that and then I have Saint.

[sour oasis]

I like Saint. She's pretty good at EX events.

[ripe latch]

pvp its just best way to get 120lvl ships

[sterile bluff]

i mean there's nothing wrong with starting pvp at lower lvs

[coral wren]

I only have two ships at 100+

Enty and Minneapolis

[sour oasis]

Nothing wrong at all. I encourage it. Just don't expect many wins.

[sterile bluff]

^^^

i just observed different comps and stuff

i spend most of my time thinking of how to survive owari da with my twerpmeme vg

[sour oasis]

PvP is a great place to get XP (which you get even while losing)

[ripe latch]

5 min to get some food

[sour oasis]

I just took Enty on the chin until I had one of my own. Then it came down to a coin flip at the end.

I should be around rank 200 I'm guessing.

[ripe latch]

juneau and enty best way to 500 rank

[sour oasis]

It might be Avrora is Hell, but that only took me to 1000.

[sterile bluff]

i have sworn to crush enty

as soon as i get the sword...

[sour oasis]

Just get bunnies. Bunnies make everything groovy.

[sterile bluff]

🐰 🐇

[sour oasis]

👯

🤕

[coral wren]

I made some progress retroing Warspite. Won't be able to finish due to purple books and level though.

[sour oasis]

How TF does PvP 4 work. I know Famine wasn't in my list when I played last. Does it re-randomize upon 6h window?

[sterile bluff]

you need purple books for ws retro?

[shell heron]

it's weird sometimes. your list might change overnight

[ionic magnet]

dont think it happened to me before (atleast when i pay attention like after gensui rush)

[karmic forum]

What if you played a PvP match/refreshed your list in your sleep

[sour oasis]

I almost caught up... But I lost a match and can't find a +10

[ripe latch]

if u put hiryuu kai u cannot lose match

[upper sparrow]

brainded meta

[ripe latch]

just w8 for fdg dev30 and we can close pvp tab

[safe meteor]

what weird pvp meta is Amagi server now?

they got like Washington, South Dakota, Enterprise, Hood, Warspite, Kaga, Akagi thats it?

oh and Centaur

vanguard Juneau, Yukikaze, Belfast

[sterile bluff]

well in theory they can have those ships...

but my 100 pulls tell me otherwise

jk

didn't pull 100 times but still quite a lot

literally got nothing except a clevebro

[sour oasis]

if u put hiryuu kai u cannot lose match
What if they put Hiryu Kai

[sterile bluff]

they u put warkai

[sour oasis]

What if they put Warkai. When it comes down to it, it gets hard to mirror 💍

[sterile bluff]

then u put dev30 fdg

[sour oasis]

I've seen 4-star 120 FdG with rings already and am afraid.

[sterile bluff]

then whip out ur dev30 azuma

[upper sparrow]

[sour oasis]

You might as well say 💸 💍 pay 2 win

[sterile bluff]

this is exactly why akashi is the most overpowered ship in the entire game

[sour oasis]

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Most-Excellent_Superbat3_2236.jpg

Actual comic book superhero.

I've F2P'd into 1st before. I can do it again. 🎲

[sterile bluff]

[ripe latch]

dev30 azuma :🍖

[shell heron]

what do you mean? those under dev20 azumas are superior

why else is there so many more around

[ionic magnet]

tfw only top3 can give you bonus pts and you got the top1

[shell heron]

just take away resetting and no bonus points

watch our winrates tank

if someone catches me next reset, I can move a full 10 for you

my max score looks like 2575 so far

[ionic magnet]

didnt get you

gonna be hard i got 2 refresh left

[forest lake]

Looks like a 2580~ for me

[elder crane]

Look at these 2550+ tryhards

[forest lake]

I barely check pvp now and yet I still get 2570+

[elder crane]

I just did my usual "lol missed 6 matches kek"

[forest lake]

[sterile bluff]

How tf

7513 dmg

......

[elder crane]

given that killed, it's obviously vs low lv

[sterile bluff]

Spitesword when

[shell heron]

I did miss 2

by missed I mean lost 2 because I didn't pay attention

[ionic magnet]

fought 3 azumas last reset

its getting scary ngl

[inner zenith]

Azuma 😍

[meager dawn]

azuma rise up

[forest lake]

Time to rape those Azumas with my gigantic torpedo

[hot creek]

Time to finally apply my prints?

soon™

[crisp knoll]

I could never wait until I collect full bp lol

[ionic magnet]

is that enough for d30?

you guys are fast

[hot creek]

nah. d25 and some extra

still got like a month and a half left til both are d30.

[upper sparrow]

meanwhile me with 160 azuma bps

[ionic magnet]

[meager dawn]

d30 DRs need more BPs than f5 PR1s

[mint hornet]

How impactful is sandbagging in the very beginning of the season vs a day or two in? Tried doing it for the first time 2 weeks ago and it seemed like I just got people who didn't pvp when I did one attempt and waited at reset

[hot creek]

not a huge difference. sometimes at the start you just get unlucky. if you are sandbagging all season, scores tend to equalize whether or not your had a good start or not.

[mint hornet]

Gotcha

[meager dawn]

low level ships

[jagged steppe]

[sterile bluff]

bruh

today

i legit got 5 monarch face projects in a row with only 1 G-412 in between

[ionic magnet]

finally reached 2.6k

now i can retire from sandbagging

[forest lake]

Oh I forgot Yat Sen had oath

[elfin summit]

EN did it

what's top JP now btw?

[ashen lion]

See you in the next month

[shell heron]

A 2600+

[forest lake]

Oof

[elfin summit]

keq

[ionic magnet]

2 mins more

[empty grove]

A season where people actually did pvp

[forest lake]

[forest lake]

Whelp 6th on Washy for me

[elfin summit]

2600+

[forest lake]

[elfin summit]

[ionic magnet]

2.6k club o/

[ionic magnet]

i miss my old sleeping schedule

not gonna do that again

[shell heron]

Sitting up there with famine this season

[drowsy heron]

Third on Amagi, lost 2 battles or I would have had first

[empty grove]

I got paired against 3 proper torp memes

[jagged steppe]

wtf are this

[elfin summit]

what's meta on Amagi now?

[shell heron]

And you said you're gonna be easy to beat

[elfin summit]

[empty grove]

[drowsy heron]

No meta yet, mostly leveling squads

[empty grove]

I remember the early meta

Level the highest & stomp everyone else

[shell heron]

Was one of the proper torp memes me?

[empty grove]

It was you twice

[shell heron]

[ionic magnet]

@shy hazel look i made it are you proud of me

[hot creek]

@ashen lion updated leaderboard

[empty grove]

[shell heron]

Those scores

The avrora scores are weirder this season. The people I expected to get 2595+ didn't

And hoo got 2600+

[keen sparrow]

im bugged

[empty grove]

Relog

Or waste a refresh

[shell heron]

Did you try relaunching app?

[keen sparrow]

sandy never pass than 2590+

[hot creek]

i think holykov still had a match left. I am not sure if he managed to make it last second or not but I saw him moving last second, I loaded the leaderboard T minus 5 seconds before reset. If he did have a match left and managed to make it, he would have taken r1 regardless a +8 or +9

[ashen lion]

F for Holykov

[ionic magnet]

lol

[hot creek]

rip. He totally had that.

[empty grove]

Lol

He's fucked

He got cay'd

[shell heron]

Stalled into next season

[ionic magnet]

[keen sparrow]

[hot creek]

I kind of feel bad for him lol.

[forest lake]

[empty grove]

If I saw that I was gonna go over, i'd just take the loss & quit out

[shell heron]

I wonder what stalled the guy.

[keen sparrow]

just rush 30min before end n eat all +9

[shell heron]

Damn. If it wasnt final reset. You could have tested against proper torp meme.

Since you got me twice

Have yet to see one myself

[empty grove]

I only ever see them in the final 10 mins

[shell heron]

I'm still missing fate5 buki so not exactly maxed yet

[ionic magnet]

dont wanna try my luck vs these namaryuus
i just ate three +9s 20 mins before end

[shell heron]

And you still got 2600+

[coral wren]

So what is sandbagging?

[hot creek]

waiting til your opponents play their matches before attacking them. You get extra points doing that.

[shy hazel]

pog

hooloo dog made it to 2nd

[ripe latch]

[hot creek]

No enty?

[ripe latch]

why enty , if on fleet her small sister?

[whole terrace]

GG on second place Hooloo

[sterile bluff]

Sooo who won?

[shell heron]

Unless Famine sleep on some matches. I don't expect anything less of him

[frail orbit]

Hooloo avrora?sandy?amagi?flexington?

[ripe latch]

flexin

[sterile bluff]

uhh we're supposed to have 10 attempts rn right... ?

[ripe latch]

ppl have enty/yuki oath( ) / washi *5-6 / akagi / kaga

so fast

[sterile bluff]

wtaf...

[marsh bane]

[midnight heron]

cant win dat

[sterile bluff]

i want nanoda

[keen sparrow]

[upper sparrow]

who is juneau sister

[sterile bluff]

juno i think

[marsh bane]

Nah, Juno is J-class, Juneau is Atlanta-class like

[sterile bluff]

[ionic magnet]

she looks dum dum like her sister sandy

[ripe latch]

[sour oasis]

For most of my PvP fights, Juneau is usually the last surviving vanguard stupid doesn't even know when to die

[frail orbit]

Guess her "big" little sis' dumbness being infectious eh?

[shell heron]

well that wasn't worth it. I moved on a +32 and now my list is dead

[vague token]

you too huh

i got 33 and then dead

[shell heron]

would have been better waiting for that one guy to possibly move more

but hard to predict day 1

[vague token]

[shell heron]

on the other hand. a 118 dev20 azuma does pretty okay

on offense at least

fought famine's dev25 last night and it wasnt deleted

[karmic forum]

158 start I guess this means that I'm actually sandbagging this season

[shell heron]

an actual good start

here I am with 137

[zenith tundra]

i got 156

[shell heron]

almost like I never sandbagged at all

[zenith tundra]

i tries starting the same way in both servers and in en got 156 while jp 141... that's fun

[sour oasis]

So many new players, this list is all luck (or massive database searching)
I'm at 139 after 5

[zenith tundra]

i got 3 bonuses early and was waiting for 4th to move again another 5 but in jp never happenes so rip bonuses while en happened so i got +34 and +29 last 2 attempts

also half awake didn't notice lvl 69 leftmost opponent. using refreshes after reset rip....

[cinder crater]

Am I the only one who likes to try to solo someone's fleet with a vanguard ship

Like I solo'd this fleet with just Roon

[zenith tundra]

well soloing 120 fleets doesn't work so i don't think people try that

[cinder crater]

I know but if a lower level fleet ever pops up

Sometimes it's sorta fun

Especially when the new season starts and every option is weak

You might as well

[zenith tundra]

as a sandbagger u just look at how much they moved not the fleet strength

[keen sparrow]

132 at start same like alwys

[zenith tundra]

[cinder crater]

What

[keen sparrow]

i never pass than 135 at start

1 bonus 4 dead

[zenith tundra]

lvl 81 people actually moving

[keen sparrow]

[zenith tundra]

i have to waste refreshes left and right due to low level people

wtf

[sterile bluff]

how am i even supposed to see my bonus

[zenith tundra]

u do math based on base score to see bonuses

[sterile bluff]

what's the base score -_-

[zenith tundra]

there is a chart in pins

[sterile bluff]

oh ok

ehh wtf

i have lower pts than u

zack

thought i was doing good

[zenith tundra]

156 is like my best start

[sterile bluff]

lul

im at 145 rn

but it's fine honestly it's not like ill actually win anyways

[shell heron]

what matters more is these next 4 days

this is when the big bonuses stack up

[sterile bluff]

huh so with "max sandbagging" everyone's supposed to be at 139 rn???

according to pins

[zenith tundra]

that chart is weird

[sterile bluff]

lol

[zenith tundra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/528067922984173582/577409146744340490/unknown.png

[shell heron]

I use my own recorded scores

[sterile bluff]

what a gaymer

[zenith tundra]

base points would be 122 start

but that was 2 resets ago

[shell heron]

but if you want reference to where you should be when sandbagging. here's mines

pretty reasonable seeing as it was one of my recorded seasons

[zenith tundra]

i had once a 281 2nd reset... never again, but usually even with lower scores i end up with ~1059 into captain

[shell heron]

sounds like a pretty good 2nd reset

usually I only get 2 bonuses

I feel that pvp score reference pinned should be removed. the scores don't really reflect normal scores

[zenith tundra]

149->281... as many bonuses in 2nd reset as 1st

[ionic magnet]

yea better replace that one in pins with cay to be realistic

[shell heron]

I want famine's records more

[zenith tundra]

the pinned chart feels more like a rusher chart then a sandbagger one

plus it does have some issues like +1 at 2570

[ionic magnet]

well famine is beyond max sandbagging anyways

[shell heron]

I'm more questioning the max sandbagging. I want to play in the server where it's possible to get +1 every single match

[ionic magnet]

not the first time it confused new peeps tbh

[zenith tundra]

not only that but if u aren't at 10/10 u can't possibly get more then 2 +1 after captain

[shell heron]

you can

on gensui rush day

[ionic magnet]

@lime rivet can help us unpin the sandbagging chart and replace with cay's chart instead?

[ionic magnet]

owo thanks

[zenith tundra]

again if u are at 5/10 u cannot get more then +2 per reset without missing attempts because technically speaking people after u use 2 attempts can only be 30pts ahead

or less

[shell heron]

that is true, normally anything above +1 is impossible

only people that can give you +2 is sandbaggers

[zenith tundra]

i meant 2 +1

[shell heron]

but you're asking sandbaggers to stop sandbagging

[ionic magnet]

i said ill stop sandbagging but here i am again..

[shell heron]

aiming for r1 this time

[zenith tundra]

u got rank 2 last season why stop?

[shell heron]

you stop when Famine is defeated

[ionic magnet]

i was 2 pts ahead before last day too

famine share your secrets

[zenith tundra]

did u refresh for bonuses? or just save them

[ionic magnet]

just saved to dodge +9s

but ended up eating 3 in the end

[zenith tundra]

rushed too early?

i saw famine at 2565 when u were 1st already

[ionic magnet]

well i did 20 mins before end

is that still early

[zenith tundra]

when i rushed really early wasted my refreshes to avoid a +9 at 3/10 and ended up with a +8 lol

[ionic magnet]

i dont trust wfc to beat all these namaryuus in 10 mins

like 6-7 charges remaining

[karmic forum]

Opponents aren't moving, maybe I don't have to sandbag after all

[zenith tundra]

i would push from time to time like save 2-3m per attempt. if u get something fast u wait for next attempt

did u check opponent levels? i keep landing on some weird low level lists

[shell heron]

I like between 2-3 min per attempts left

space them out or slow down if it's an easy match

[ionic magnet]

i got scared cos some random namaryuu made me reset twice

[sterile bluff]

imagine using namaryuu

wait nvm i can't cuz no namagi...

hello darkness my old friend

[zenith tundra]

i ended up using namaryuu against ws teams and namagi ws against namaryuu

[sterile bluff]

why not use waryuu

ya both both of them

[zenith tundra]

namaryuu mirror is cancer

[ionic magnet]

so amagi fdg ws is really better?

[shell heron]

why else do I use WSkai to snipe Hiryuu early? I lost twice last season because of her

[zenith tundra]

i only reset twice ever with amagi ws fdg. once vs a namaryuu and another vs namagi fdg after opponent nagato barraged 3 times in a row

[shell heron]

that and maybe my nagato said no barrages while their's procced twice

[ionic magnet]

i need namaryuu also so i can stall peeps
and thats just not happening with wfc

[zenith tundra]

amagi suruga fdg

that's ur alternative without nagato

that's a fun comp to fight where u cannot kill stuff with ws

[shell heron]

suruga is surprisingly tanky

only fought a few 120 ones but they are last to die

[ionic magnet]

i stopped levelling suruga

well fdg is gonna take a while too

[zenith tundra]

i'm thinking about using suruga vs ws instead of hiryuu

dev 25 is good enough for a stalling fdg

stella didn't level suruga either tho. lvl 99

[ionic magnet]

mines just dev19

[zenith tundra]

wow as bad as mine on stella acc

[empty grove]

Early bonuses also mean less compared to the last 3 days from my experience

[ionic magnet]

we'll have nagato rerun first before i have fdg/suruga ready at this point

[empty grove]

Considering people can gain on a +10 point lead due to match luck

[zenith tundra]

it's not hard to level a bb

early bonuses tend to kind of even out around when u enter captain rank. i seem to always end up within like 2-3 pts every time even when i have a 14pts behind start

[empty grove]

Yeah

I usually always end up 1050-1060

Think my best was 1068 on a season I ended up getting stalled on due to being so far ahead I had to wait till last min to not eat a -9

[zenith tundra]

-1 better then -10

[empty grove]

Yep

100% greed on my part

[outer owl]

what is the strategy to get top10/100? I always win left most and I fight 5 after reset and 10 before reset. Should I refresh until I find high rank opponents?

[zenith tundra]

if u want to sandbag u have to wait for people to move before attacking

[outer owl]

what do you mean move?

[proper sorrel]

attack

[zenith tundra]

u don't use attempts at once unless it's before a reset

they use their attemts

[proper sorrel]

but then again i'd assume all the top players would do that

[outer owl]

so 10 mins before reset?

[zenith tundra]

depends on comp and how much u have to reset

if u never reset 10min is enough for 5 attempts without problems

[outer owl]

is there a best time to fight? I should be fighting 5 before server reset? then I do 10 after the 2nd exercise refresh?

[zenith tundra]

again if u want bonuses u have to wait for opponents to use their attempts before u attack. that means checking ur list every now and then to see if people actually moved. if u have to go to bed and miss an entire reset just go down to 5/10 before going to bed

[shell heron]

your list does not update ranks until you relog

[zenith tundra]

~~ relog simulator ~~

[shell heron]

but when people actually move can be immediately or could be hours after reset

[outer owl]

so is it better to keep 10 exercises before server reset?

[shell heron]

5

you get an extra 5 on server reset

[tough dirge]

owarida

[outer owl]

so i should never leave my exercises at 0/10?

[eager cedar]

you dont so you can maximize sandbagging points

or just become food

[tough dirge]

only when u go for coma

2 day coma

[shell heron]

correct. that increases the chance of people moving ahead of you. 5/10 is where you want to stop

[zenith tundra]

unless u completely miss 2 resets in a row never go to 0/10

[tough dirge]

usually stay at 5 so you dont have to force at the last moment w/10 attempts

[outer owl]

oh ok great i have been doing 0/10

[tough dirge]

its ok

the servers crash every maintenqnce anyway

[outer owl]

so the best way would be to do 5 before they give exercise?

[tough dirge]

so before the 15th maintenance go 0/10

[shell heron]

it's still day 1. you can start now and get a higher rank than you would rushing

[tough dirge]

its less risk

but then ur food

[outer owl]

day 1 should i be doing 0/10 or 5/10?

[tough dirge]

5/10 always

tomorrow go 0/10 becayse who knows servers are gonna die again

for like 18h

[outer owl]

ok thx didnt know there was a strat called sandbagging

[shell heron]

or until you hit Admiral of the Navy and decide to stop

[frail orbit]

Only rushers and food go 0/10

[tough dirge]

me neither, am also new here.

[outer owl]

what are rushers?

[tough dirge]

my only succesful season was below 300

kekw

[zenith tundra]

1st reset is about how u want to do it. i usually go down to 1-2/10 because i get early bonuses out of rushers

[shell heron]

people who use all their matches ASAP.

[tough dirge]

rushers use all attempts and go for high ranks right off the bat, i assume

[shell heron]

yes, they get a temporary satisfaction of early high ranks

[outer owl]

what bonus from rushers?

[proper sorrel]

not much

[tough dirge]

only bonus is being high rank because others havent used their attempts yet

but youre going to lose it at the end of the timer

and possibly wont be able to catch up due to others bonus for sbagging

[shell heron]

bonus points are added based on the difference between your score and their's.

[outer owl]

how does the game count merit? this guy in my server (1st) is 355 and im only 340 but i win all my matches?

[tough dirge]

Because hes been sandbagging