pvp

[past egret]

To bad she got creeped

[sterile bluff]

by who?

[empty grove]

Someone crept her?

[past egret]

[sterile bluff]

hood crept monarch confirmed

[zenith tundra]

and still best ship in pve from pr1

[sterile bluff]

also best for pvp

pretty sure

[empty grove]

If he means rossiya, isn't she just a weaker monarch

[sterile bluff]

rossiya is just different

[past egret]

FDG? Warkai?

[empty grove]

Sovet

[sterile bluff]

i wouldn't say weaker

just different

[empty grove]

W/e her name is

They do different things tho

[sterile bluff]

rossiya's barrage is completely different than monarch's

[empty grove]

That's why monarch is utilised in 13-4

Rossiya has that slow meme too

[zenith tundra]

comparing broken UR stuff to poor monarch

[empty grove]

So it's the only thing I can think of that could even potentially creep her

[zenith tundra]

rossiya is just worse on bosses then monarch anyway

[empty grove]

I don't think i've ever once thought about a PVE comp tho

Outside of lowering oil cost

[zenith tundra]

i never used monarch in pve lol

[empty grove]

I haven't either

I got her to 120 & benched her

[sterile bluff]

..................

monarch is like... second best BB for pve

working my ass off getting her to 30 rn

[karmic forum]

She does work against Taihou

[zenith tundra]

no one said she is bad

[karmic forum]

And nobody has FDG to a useable level so shes basically the best BB atm

[zenith tundra]

just not really needed

[sterile bluff]

but how can u never use her

[zenith tundra]

i don't like her

[sterile bluff]

!!!!!!!!!!!!

just look at those thighs bro

[zenith tundra]

i had her 120 when i started in jp so i never needed to use her which save me the trouble of using a ship i don't like

[karmic forum]

If a ship is powerful, I'm going to raise them regardless of how much I like them

[zenith tundra]

i'm raising georgia very slowly for the same reason. she is good just don't like her

[sterile bluff]

...

who do u like then

besides fdg

and other rainbow ships

[zenith tundra]

if u mean the ships i like, almost all are already 120... essex, centaur, amagi, sara, gascogne, noshiro. still missing 120 on roon and seattle

[sterile bluff]

...

essex

Essex event when? D:

i need her

[empty grove]

Should be soon

[sterile bluff]

it better be soon

[empty grove]

We need that air raid one with shangri-la

[sterile bluff]

yea

air raids with essex

that's the one im talking about

[empty grove]

[jagged steppe]

...

[zenith tundra]

farm more

[jagged steppe]

im doing it

i thought she will never drop

but she drop twice wtf

[zenith tundra]

this is why u wait for after event to buy stuff

shangri-la bad

getting outrdmg by a 20lvl under intrepid

like how

[hot creek]

is there a chart that shows how many bp = dev levels anywhere

[zenith tundra]

/devbp

[strange moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/512967149975896084/697348939774689361/devbp.png

[zenith tundra]

idk one more detailed

[hot creek]

yeah i need a more detailed one

[zenith tundra]

what are u looking for? maybe i know it

[jagged steppe]

maybe he want each lvl

from 20>21>22 etc

and stat

[zenith tundra]

good luck with a stats one since they are still based on levels and oath level

[hot creek]

yeah one for each level. dont need the stats

[zenith tundra]

for what dr?

it's 22 from 21 to 24 and 45 for 25 and then 30 from 26 to 29 and then 60 for 30

[jagged steppe]

they doing pvp guide in gameplay help to kill taihou

[hot creek]

DR. I just wanna see how behind famine I am

[zenith tundra]

those are the numbers

20 22 222
21 22 244
22 22 266
23 22 288
24 45 333
25 30 363
26 30 393
27 30 423
28 30 453
29 60 513
30

at dev 28 he is at 423+ bps

[hot creek]

cool thanks.

[sterile bluff]

lmao wtf is that jump from 23 to 24

22 to 45 bp per dev lv?

?????

[zenith tundra]

dev 25 takes 45

from 24

[sterile bluff]

and then goes back down to 30???

[zenith tundra]

yes

[sterile bluff]

...

didn't know they would go down...

and holy shit from 22 to 45

that's an insane jump

[zenith tundra]

every 5th level it takes around 2 times the 4 before

[sterile bluff]

ok

i see

so limit break levels take more

[zenith tundra]

it's every 5 not every 10

so it's not only limit break levels

[sterile bluff]

i consider 5s "small limit break levels"

[zenith tundra]

if u consider limit break as in * increase is only every 10 dev levels. it's every time they get a bonus outside of stat increase

[sterile bluff]

ye

that's what i consider "limit break", gaining smth outside of stats

so every 5 lvs

[zenith tundra]

that's not the term for it tho since limit break means star increase for every ship including non pr ones

[sterile bluff]

ye ik

also im such a pogger

i got 9 monarch bps yesterday

thought it was impossible XD

hopefully i can finish her in a month

[ionic magnet]

@jagged steppe arent they talking about taihou in 13-4

[zenith tundra]

taihou in pvp is a meme anyway

[sterile bluff]

why is G-412 always dropping the bps i don't want D:

i want to complain to god

[inner zenith]

when will EN get blue print pr exchange

😭

[upper sparrow]

zack posting nuclear code

[sterile bluff]

honestly im not too excited about bp exchange

cuz the ratio is

umm....

yea...

[zenith tundra]

it's not even that good of a shop unless u have extra bps sitting around

[sterile bluff]

6:1 ratio was it?

that's legit trolling

[inner zenith]

at this rate dont we all have extra pr1's sittin around

[sterile bluff]

not me

[zenith tundra]

getting it now or later doesn't really mean much. even with the 10 dr bps per month limit u need 240 pr bps for all 10

[sterile bluff]

oh yea i forgot there's a limit too

[inner zenith]

)=

[zenith tundra]

if u aren't consistently getting extra bps it just doesn't do anything past the 1st month since u cannot retire bps for ships that aren't dev 30

[jagged steppe]

does enterprise skill cause enterprise's figher to deal double damage to enemy plane?

*fighter

[sour oasis]

Does it matter? (I don't... think so; the effect is written that it only procs on airstrike)

Also, in EN, only one Mikasa Z-flag happened right? (Oh good. I was paranoid there was a bug and some got 2 flags)

[marsh bane]

Only once, yes.

[zenith tundra]

maybe only during airstrikes but it shouldn't affect interception fighters

oh yeah i remember that flag event was fucked up in en

[sour oasis]

It was in October, and it was so long ago, I forget why I had a copy in my mail.

[zenith tundra]

i think there were some problems and some people didn't get all pieces so they compensated pieces

[empty grove]

They removed my extra piece

[zenith tundra]

F

[marsh bane]

I regret collecting that mail, would've loved to keep one flag piece in the mail

[sour oasis]

Would that piece ever be useful? Or just as mail trophy?

[zenith tundra]

i don't think. maybe u can use it to get 2nd flag earlier then other people

but not really

[sour oasis]

Upcoming event has 0 new boats. Really? I can sleep now??

[zenith tundra]

it's not an event

they just add fw ships to perma pool with rate up

for a bit

[sour oasis]

I don't care. I just am so tired.

Hope they do that with PRAN ships next Lunar New Year. Or U47.

[zenith tundra]

expect ce rerun

that's the safe bet unless they do more new events

[marsh bane]

@sour oasis Just as a mail trophy, I hadn't lost any pieces from that bug so I had enough, I didn't have to collect it oh well

[zenith tundra]

i would just use it to trigger people with a 2nd flag early

[empty grove]

Rip 3rd quin too

[sterile bluff]

anyone active D:

im bored

lets talk about pvp

[whole terrace]

Hi @sterile bluff

[sterile bluff]

sup

how's life

[whole terrace]

Not bad

And yourself?

[sterile bluff]

pretty bad

[whole terrace]

Ah rip

My life would be better if I could actually get some bonus points

[shell heron]

Just become food. Less stressful that way

[sterile bluff]

bruh

my life might become good depending on what my next research drops

[whole terrace]

Lol what do you need

[sterile bluff]

bps

as always

BPs

[forest lake]

[sterile bluff]

HOLY F

...

facepalm

got a fkin roon bp

don't wanna see her face

@zenith tundra which one? Going for monarch bps

this is like...

just wtf is this rng

going to sleep btw

considering the Cs

[shell heron]

none of them look great but C-185 looks most reasonable

[zenith tundra]

1 of the 2 free one

[sterile bluff]

ok

fml

[shell heron]

Oh, I'm pretty behind

[sterile bluff]

D:

im behind on bps that's for sure

[shell heron]

at least you didn't fall for the sanrui bait

got a fate5 sanrui that I almost never use

[finite valve]

biggest bait for pvp

sanrui use for 1 ss then drop

useless piece of shit

[sterile bluff]

sanrui useless for pvp?

nani?

[finite valve]

she been useless since forever

[sterile bluff]

...

[finite valve]

most ppl got baited due to CN comp

[sterile bluff]

she's not... useless

[shell heron]

useless is not completely true

just outclassed

[sterile bluff]

but in today's day and age outclassed = useless

so i see ur point

[whole terrace]

Outclassed by who?

[shell heron]

Azuma exists. Arguably Bremerton might do her job equally if not better

have to wait on testing for that

[sterile bluff]

sanrui is just for tank right?

[shell heron]

If you want tank, there's nep and noshiro

[finite valve]

problem with sanrui is her gun

slow attack speed

gun angle also are worse

[sterile bluff]

im thinking of raising ibuki

cuz twerpedoes are life

[shell heron]

Azuma gets away with that, but she's pretty much the 4th main fleet member

[sterile bluff]

lol

[finite valve]

still haven't seen much azuma or fdg in pvp

long way away

[sterile bluff]

cuz it's en

just look at zack

[shell heron]

waiting on people to get dev20+

[sterile bluff]

and his jp shit

[finite valve]

there are ppl who already dev 25 or 30 one of them already

[whole terrace]

I see a lot of azoomer

[empty grove]

Show me a dev 30

[shell heron]

you mean famine? cube projects

I'm seeing dev20+ now but no dev30 yet

[sterile bluff]

i quickly realized i can't afford cube projects

lmao

i was so naive

[empty grove]

That's sack or whale territory

[sterile bluff]

maybe like 1 H per day is doable

[shell heron]

If I wasn't such a cube hoarder, I would be smart and do them

[sterile bluff]

but even if it's 1H it'll be rly harad to accumulate cubes

[empty grove]

I'm ready for the servers to die again

[sterile bluff]

oh god

anyways it's getting late af

goodnight

[shell heron]

[whole terrace]

Bye

[empty grove]

Rip

[shell heron]

inb4 servers open and emergency maint

[stable dawn]

So with fw coming back but not as an event, how will we get hpfcr?

[frail orbit]

Might as well make another smurf at Amagi keks

[shell heron]

why not.

experience the good ol days of pvp

[finite valve]

best bet is to ask everyone to ping intern to give radar reward by mail

[shell heron]

enty duels and foxes

[marsh bane]

inb4 6h + 24h MT incoming

[zenith tundra]

amagi should be up way faster then the others unless devs are .... and not updated the server already

[sour oasis]

bps
Event farm and buy them next time

[zenith tundra]

[forest lake]

What's that

HPFCR powercreep?

[zenith tundra]

they are war archive keys

[drowsy heron]

I asked about PvP team for the new server last week. Now I have new questions. 👍😀

I need tips on common or rare ships that I can use as replacements before I get all the ssr ships

[zenith tundra]

amagi pvp meta won't be a thing for like a month thb. u'll just use whatever ships u level for pve

[drowsy heron]

Ok

[zenith tundra]

it the end it depends on what u get from pulls.

[drowsy heron]

The hood event is a daily login thing? Nothing that can be rushed?

[zenith tundra]

i got a hood for free in jp

as soon as i login

[drowsy heron]

Ok

That's nice

Any of the rate up ships worth going for?

[zenith tundra]

~~ completely useless for a jp player that isn't new ~~

washington is good for pve and she can be used in pvp too

at least for a bit till better ships appear

[drowsy heron]

Cool I'll see if I can get her then

Thanks for the help, I'm sure I'll ask more questions down the line 😀

[zenith tundra]

as i said pvp meta won't be a thing unless people intentionally level up stuff for pvp. since is a new server they also need to get lucky getting them

[drowsy heron]

That's true

[zenith tundra]

amagi is already up nice

[hot creek]

got in on sandy

[zenith tundra]

al sucks without auto

[midnight heron]

time to transfer to amagi

[zenith tundra]

i would transfer my jp account to amagi. would be fun with all 120 maxed meta in pvp

[midnight heron]

oh theres free hood as well

instant retire

[zenith tundra]

free hood on amagi isn't bad

[elfin summit]

wonder what pvp be like on Amagi now

[midnight heron]

just hood kek

[zenith tundra]

need level 15 for pvp

[elfin summit]

I mean, that finally should be fun for a long time

like, diversity etc

[zenith tundra]

sure till ce rerun next week

[elfin summit]

is it announced already?

[zenith tundra]

not official

[midnight heron]

amagi hood enty

[zenith tundra]

wasda

amagi hood ws

[elfin summit]

pre-kai ws

[midnight heron]

new server got no sword

[elfin summit]

[zenith tundra]

still a good snipe with hood

not like u have much more then that

wonder if amagi bunnies will be viable

[midnight heron]

not without retro

which gonna take some time to farm

[zenith tundra]

pvp meta won't be till 120

that's a long time

[midnight heron]

inb4 some hardcore bitch does it in 1 week

lul

[zenith tundra]

more like a whale

[midnight heron]

damn whales belong in the sea

[ripe latch]

damn , 3-4 farm again

[zenith tundra]

i'd rather farm bunnies

[midnight heron]

i actually dread sos farm more than 3-4 farm lul

dat shit took all my game time

[ripe latch]

but bunny have better drop rate

[zenith tundra]

nice list

[midnight heron]

bulli while u can

[zenith tundra]

u get - points from those tho

[midnight heron]

wait y do u hav 10/10

when server just opened

[zenith tundra]

so it seems

also refreshing list does nothing

LOL

[midnight heron]

cuz no one else doing pvp lmao

rekt

[zenith tundra]

we don't even have leaderboards

[midnight heron]

do 1 battle and u become the 1st

[zenith tundra]

nope

i need to sandbag

[midnight heron]

sandbag on nonexistent opponents

[zenith tundra]

i'll just wait for people then

i have time till reset

also season started and end in 3days

[midnight heron]

lul

might as well rush then

[zenith tundra]

idk if i play on amagi tbh so i'll just get 1st rank on the 1st season

[midnight heron]

theyre prob using the standard/universal timer for all servers

[zenith tundra]

it's so it's in sync with other servers

[ripe latch]

[midnight heron]

teach me pls senpai

[upper sparrow]

sure till ce rerun next week

WAIT WHAT, CE rerun is not a myth?

[zenith tundra]

it's not official

but should be next rerun we get

[upper sparrow]

[frail orbit]

[meager dawn]

But wont we have to wait for CN/JP to have that rerun announced before we can even get it

[upper sparrow]

i should hoard muh cube and not roll for minnea then

[zenith tundra]

it's not like is confirmed. it might even be 2 weeks before next event

someone actually rushed to 160+ pts time to sandbag

[hot creek]

just refresh into him

[zenith tundra]

+36

+34

F +32

got over 100

154 start lol

[upper sparrow]

is there any worth equipment to farm in FW map?

[zenith tundra]

gold cata and hellcats in d3

nothing that cannot be got from boxes tho

[ripe latch]

they put ai on pvp

[zenith tundra]

they indeed do so when no one has done pvp yet u have someone to attack

[ripe latch]

well now season its found zack or someone from #pvp

[proper sorrel]

this is going to be interesting

[ripe latch]

5x6

[proper sorrel]

is Washington, South Dakota, Enterprise, Juneau, Yukikaze, Belfast the current pvp meta on amagi?

[zenith tundra]

LOL

how do u get 15k merit for that

[ripe latch]

[proper sorrel]

takes about 3-4 weeks to get south dakota no matter how good you are

no one has it yet ofc

also 20k

which would mean 4-6 weeks?

[zenith tundra]

meta rn is highest lvl pve ships u have

[ripe latch]

3 weeks looks like

[blazing scroll]

Portland is back

[proper sorrel]

Washington, Saratoga, Hood it is.. i guess

[blazing scroll]

[ripe latch]

kekw noone put on hood 2second gun

[blazing sequoia]

@proper sorrel 4-6 is a long time tho

[proper sorrel]

im assuming you meant no one

[blazing sequoia]

I usually get a purin a week or so

[proper sorrel]

i keep reading it as noon

[blazing sequoia]

2 weeks is probably the fastests to get South Dakota

[proper sorrel]

Soda 😋

[ripe latch]

foxs + washi on meta soon

[proper sorrel]

why washi

[ripe latch]

barrage

[zenith tundra]

hood is a way better barrager

[proper sorrel]

i feel like hood would do better

[blazing sequoia]

More like Akaga and Hood

[proper sorrel]

washington wants south dakota

[ripe latch]

but foxs + any bb

[blazing sequoia]

The two Metas are gonna be WaSD and Akaga for a while

[proper sorrel]

meta though

[ripe latch]

enty washi south

[proper sorrel]

more WaSD than Akaga though

[blazing sequoia]

And between all these fleets, Enty is gonna be thrown around

Owarida

[karmic forum]

Is it the middle of the season for Amagi?

[zenith tundra]

end of season

just like other en servers

[karmic forum]

Ok so the max rank you can get is probably really low then

[zenith tundra]

4 days of pvp

[ripe latch]

eldrige meta

[zenith tundra]

maybe u can get to captain rank

[karmic forum]

I feel bad for the new players who are just going to get rolled over by the smurfs

[zenith tundra]

everyone starts the same tho

[karmic forum]

Yeah but you guys have a clear direction and are probably farming a lot more

[ripe latch]

[proper sorrel]

so fast

[zenith tundra]

i'm sandbagging for later

[ripe latch]

but pretty start now to get merit

[proper sorrel]

oh no i am missing out on attacks

[shy hazel]

u quit avrora zack?

[zenith tundra]

nah just killing some time on amagi

[shy hazel]

i see niko

another pvp memer in av

u want to like

experience the old pvp

[zenith tundra]

as i said just killing some time

[karmic forum]

I won't be making an account on Amagi but feel free to report your experience here since I'm curious what the "old PvP meta" looks like

[zenith tundra]

i don't think people understand that there is no point talking about meta when ships aren't max level...

[karmic forum]

My bad, I meant the early PvP experience since I joined a few months after Av was out

[zenith tundra]

early pvp experience is dealing no dmg with some random pve ships

[proper sorrel]

why is no one setting up their defense fleet in amagi q.q

[shy hazel]

albeit

[ripe latch]

old meta so... boring

[shy hazel]

it starts with fw ships uprate

si rather than true early ea

era

will be kind of diff

[split socket]

early pvp experience is just undying eldridges and owaridas

[proper sorrel]

anyways my fleet be like
saratoga, hood, washington, portland, laffey, monty

[ripe latch]

early pvp its ayaya or helena owarida

[shy hazel]

person who rerolls most pvp ships and grind it

wins

but the thing id

no one loses

cos no one will bother to put def fleet

[proper sorrel]

i put up my defense fleet

[shy hazel]

yes your lvl 30~50 fleet is scary

[proper sorrel]

7800 total power already

[shy hazel]

[proper sorrel]

oh shoot someone has level 27 enterprise

[shy hazel]

grind foxes and wasd asap

[ripe latch]

no, ppl start farm pr1

and 3-4

[proper sorrel]

mhm

[shy hazel]

not like u can do both

[ripe latch]

farm usless ships

[shy hazel]

i doubt foxes would matter then

wasd is best bet

wesdenty with electric loli

which no one will get till near pvp season end

cos needs merits

[ripe latch]

but on first season better get wins and buy south or electric

[proper sorrel]

im probably going to get soda first

[shy hazel]

backline is btr ofc

[ripe latch]

sara backline

[proper sorrel]

mhm

[zenith tundra]

testing amagi ws monarch vs namagi fdg and won with monarch at 1 hp

lol

[sour oasis]

At what dev is Azuma > Louis (Fate5)?

[zenith tundra]

20

[sterile bluff]

morning

zack did u mention ce rerun next week?

i fkin burned 100 cubes for minne

HAHAHAHAHA

[zenith tundra]

https://discordapp.com/channels/456397991847395339/516951413411020819/697792107666079845

[sterile bluff]

next week tho?

[ripe latch]

but minne not worth to spam coubs

[zenith tundra]

ws monarch amagi >> ws monarch qe

like literally much better

[proper sorrel]

by like how much

okay stupid question

[zenith tundra]

5-0 to 1-4 against namagi fdg

[proper sorrel]

wtf

[zenith tundra]

i could try with yukikaze vg instead of dido

but same setup it just doesn't do well

0-1 even with yuki

nagato barrages just murder hms backlines

ok 2-1 with yukikaze

already better

to sum the matchup goes like this: nagato barrages more then once u reset

this is with ws mid which seems to be worse then ws bot since she cannot kill fdg fast enough and nagato can just barrage free
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSj7_N7Bnco&t=9s

[proper sorrel]

interesting

[blazing sequoia]

Warkai is better off-flag tho

[zenith tundra]

i wrote it above that is worse then ws bot

[blazing sequoia]

Ik

Still, Warkai in flag is just letting rng play for you

When you could just manipulate her barrage

[zenith tundra]

it's literally that u cannot burst down fdg after amagi death

so u need to focus nagato instead

it's still 4-1

but it's much easier wins with ws bot

[blazing sequoia]

[zenith tundra]

dido qe with ws bot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2bQyD6CBAE&t=74s

u still lose quite a bit to nagato rng

[proper sorrel]

so ijn beats hms?

[zenith tundra]

more like qe not worth running over amagi

[proper sorrel]

mk

[zenith tundra]

this is with amagi and ws bot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVxIErf89Hw

[sterile bluff]

soo monarch ws amagi

ill probably go for that then

if ce ever reruns

[midnight heron]

qe too weak

[sterile bluff]

it's funny cuz monarch's skill dialogue literally says "the queen has no power over me"

it would be hilarious if qe boosted everyone except monarch

[zenith tundra]

i'll record with amagi ws fdg for fun just to show off best comp

[proper sorrel]

lol

[sterile bluff]

we all know best comp is fletcher fleet tho

[proper sorrel]

1:1 fleets in pvp for dat oil efficiency

[sterile bluff]

exactly

[whole terrace]

qe not worth running over amagi

Well, one is broken, one isn't

Not worth running over centaur either in my experience. Still solid for people who don't have better

[frail orbit]

Inb4 crying in QE retro when

Also finally 2nd VF-17
Mission accomplished

[proper sorrel]

now flex on every1

[sour oasis]

Hood retro when (really, why the free Hood)

[proper sorrel]

why not

free eugen, free enterprise, free hood

[sour oasis]

Also, new Amagi players get Uni to complete the loli starter set

[proper sorrel]

mhm

[sour oasis]

When was there a free Enterprise?

[proper sorrel]

last year

[sour oasis]

Oh, the beginner banner choice thing (where you could pick enterprise sandy hood?)

[proper sorrel]

no

you get it as a login reward

like the hood one today

[sour oasis]

I can't remember. Well, it sounds nice. (Also, man is tutorial harder these days?Hornet killed me.)

[proper sorrel]

how did that kill you

[sour oasis]

Started an account on Amagi for and Hornet blasted Long Island away.

[frail orbit]

Last time I make a smurf on Sandy

Not that bad keks

[sour oasis]

Granted, this is all that I saw half the tutorial

I worry for newbies.

[proper sorrel]

restart the game smh my head

[sterile bluff]

lmao

[zenith tundra]

there is hide in the top left side....

[sour oasis]

Much better
(I thought it was funny)

[sterile bluff]

lmao ill start on amagi too

with my epic starter + hood comp in pvp

[zenith tundra]

3rd attempt has a cool 20s amagi kill and fdg ending full hp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN5pfXx3eL8

[scenic mantle]

[sterile bluff]

i joined amagi

and i killed bismark the moment she fired at hood

is that even possible?

LMFAOOOOOO

[proper sorrel]

wait how did you kill bismark

[sterile bluff]

idk

like when bismark fired at hood

i killed bismark while her salvo's still in the air

[coral wren]

How can I improve my pvp fleet?

[blazing scroll]

Uss yukikaze

instead of z1

[coral wren]

Is she that much better?

[blazing scroll]

ye

[coral wren]

She has just been sitting in my dock.

What about the backline?

[blazing scroll]

That's fine

[coral wren]

Should I still watch out for Akagi and Kaga?

[eager cedar]

They are not that common anymore

For eos gensui

[coral wren]

Didn't they directly counter Enty?

Also the fate of Sandy. Replace her for now until retro or keep her?

[eager cedar]

Well, the meta has shifted greatly in that entry is not used unless you don’t have the meta comp

[blazing scroll]

You can use baltimore instead

[coral wren]

Well what is the meta comp?

[eager cedar]

Namaryuu

[sterile bluff]

thays a nice pve fleet ya got there XD

[eager cedar]

Look at pins

It will give you an in depth explanation

En, you are starting to see more dev20+ fdg/azuma

Imo, you should just focus on lvl your pvp ships

I highly doubt you will be able to get past fleets like this, and there are plenty of them out there

You’re already handicapping yourself with your ship lvl

[karmic forum]

I'm waiting for a ring pack before I start affection farming Azuma and FDG

[coral wren]

I could never hope to get passed that fleet there mainly because of level.

Dev20?

The 20 levels after 100?

[eager cedar]

Development level for the pr ship, 20 is the general agreed lvl that people will start to use them for pvp

[sterile bluff]

lol not just level

[marsh bane]

no PR ships go from dev1 to dev30, "enhancing" for better stats

those are different from the normal levels up to 120

[sterile bluff]

that fleet is the current meta

[coral wren]

Ah I don't have a single PR ship

Still farming for Saint Louis

[proper sorrel]

don't worry i don't too

okay worry a bit please

[eager cedar]

It’s fine, only like 4 pr ships are actually used

Monarch and Neptune for hms fleet

And azuma and fdg

[karmic forum]

Is Azuma in the back to protect from torps?

[sterile bluff]

also ibuki and saint

[eager cedar]

Ibuki is torp memes

[sterile bluff]

yep

[coral wren]

What if someone were to use only PR? Say FDG, Gascogne, Monarch, Azuma, Roon, and Seattle

[eager cedar]

And sanrui was bait

[sterile bluff]

and twerpmemes r awesome

[eager cedar]

So I don’t consider them as seriously used

That is a flex fleet

[sterile bluff]

nah i see ibuki pretty often

some twerpmemes r legit

[coral wren]

I think that just says you play this game too much

[sterile bluff]

i don't im a noob

[coral wren]

@sterile bluff No the fleet I mentioned

[sterile bluff]

lmao

u can do flex fleets pretty easy

but like

if they r all dev30

[coral wren]

Would that fleet even be viable?

[sterile bluff]

then that's pretty damn hard

[eager cedar]

No

[sterile bluff]

uhhh

no

gascogne seattle and roon aren't viable

but if u replace those 3 i can see u having a decent pvp fleet

[eager cedar]

Right now, you’re biggest concern is lvl your fleet to at least 115

[coral wren]

That'll take a while

[eager cedar]

Then you’ll start having a chance against winning meta 120 comps

[sterile bluff]

alright anyways i need emotional support

which one?

D:

[eager cedar]

Just go at your own pace

[sterile bluff]

i don't wanna do cube

[eager cedar]

The meta isn’t changing anytime soon

[sterile bluff]

and the Ts are long af

don't want that roon either

[coral wren]

Unless another PR is released

[eager cedar]

Just do the cube

[sterile bluff]

i can't

too poor

[eager cedar]

Pr3

[sterile bluff]

ahhhhhhhhhhh

i don't wanna refresh either

ffs

my rng in research these days is

[eager cedar]

Just refresh

[sterile bluff]

what if i get a worse one

[eager cedar]

Just get better rng

[sterile bluff]

ok nvm screw it im doing the cube

only 3 cubes

[coral wren]

So who kicked Enty off tier 0?

[marsh bane]

Just get better rng
Yeah it's literally that easy

[sterile bluff]

enty was t0 in pvp?

[eager cedar]

She was day1

[coral wren]

Pretty sure she was...in Fallen Wings

[frail orbit]

Imagine actually using Big E nowadays

No hope to even getting revived

Also Murican sans Juneau in general is useless

[coral wren]

Her skill still makes a difference from what I see.

[frail orbit]

Yeah but remember
Hiryuu has longer invulnerability

[eager cedar]

You sometimes see some main fleet like this

[frail orbit]

Sure

Cant fault em but hey

[eager cedar]

It’s funny tho

You can afk from a fight you should win

[frail orbit]

Here we're talking objectively anyway in terms of performance

[eager cedar]

And entry decides to proc

[coral wren]

Enty always procs for me.

[frail orbit]

Ehhh I find that to not be a problem nowadays

When enemy Enty procs

[coral wren]

It's Hood who never procs for me.

[frail orbit]

Just Wakai snipe the shit ASAP

[sterile bluff]

enty: exists

warkai: "belli dura despicio motherfucker!"

[eager cedar]

It happened to someone here a few days ago

[coral wren]

Also Chocco fleet

[frail orbit]

Am using WFC mainly here

[sterile bluff]

mark my words warkai will be the first ship to get 2 retros

[coral wren]

It legit upset me last time. I lost to them.

[frail orbit]

Note that

And am rarely having any problem with E

[eager cedar]

It’s probably a lvl thing

[frail orbit]

Namaryuu tho

U gonna wait or just reset

[blazing scroll]

I'm still waiting for Enty kai

[sterile bluff]

no

[ripe latch]

smallspite when

[sterile bluff]

spitesword when

[ripe latch]

6-9 months

[sterile bluff]

NO

it's a tiny minigame event they can add it whenever

[ripe latch]

pvp on amagi ♿

[ionic magnet]

i see everyones having fun smurfing

until they release nagato amagi and its the same cancer all over again

[proper sorrel]

lol

[ripe latch]

@ionic magnet >fun

[ionic magnet]

come to avrora instead
could use some food

[ripe latch]

[ionic magnet]

wasp is supposed to drop in A3 right

been here for almost 3 hrs now

[proper sorrel]

level 21

[ripe latch]

farm lvl

farm foxs

[proper sorrel]

you're at 3-4?

time to rush a bit

[ripe latch]

3-2

want bunny

[proper sorrel]

i been taking my time leveling both of my fleets

oh yeah i need hiryuu

[ripe latch]

mlb not need

[proper sorrel]

o.o

[ripe latch]

before 6 chapter still not

ppl put enty on pvp

[proper sorrel]

i need to overboard my thatcher and shropshire very soon

it is holding me back like hell

[frail orbit]

Still decent if early pvp is nick

[ripe latch]

🚮

[frail orbit]

At least til someone has Akaga

Context is Amagi server anyway

[eager cedar]

pvp smurfing

[finite valve]

does hms > foxes?

pretty sure pvp in amagi just going to be hms or foxes

[elder crane]

What doesn't

Oh, you mean release HMS
very much so

[finite valve]

also with ppl pulling for FW

wasd going to counter foxes

[elder crane]

WaSD will for a moment be better though

[finite valve]

so that leaves wasd vs hms

going to be 1 boring ss

[elder crane]

Tbh idk actually
with lv 120, and a bunch of stuff in perma, HMS might do fine vs WaSD even before Monarch starts coming online

QE, Hood, Cent, Jun, Aurora, Ykkz, probably

problem will be getting Centaur mostly, I think

[finite valve]

not to mention free hood right of the bat

[elder crane]

Still
Cent

[finite valve]

now they just need to get lucky and get ws in exchange

[elder crane]

she's, what, like 0.4% or something stupid like that?

[finite valve]

[elder crane]

WS isn't good enough without full retro, pretty sure

[finite valve]

still good in early ss

[elder crane]

yes, but not vs WaSD

which is probably what you'll see a bunch of

[finite valve]

well not like you can get anyone better

cen is build only

ws you might get lucky

cen is harder to get

[elder crane]

Yes, but then you might as well go for WaSD for now, probably

[finite valve]

[elder crane]

probably CE will rerun before WS retro event anyways

[finite valve]

if it was me i probably goes enty foxes

still manage to pull some win even vs wasd

[elder crane]

Hood foxes does better iirc vs WaSD

at least at lv 100

idk how that changes with lv120 and better vanguard selection though

[finite valve]

ykk and jesus

last 1 belfap as usual

dk why ppl still use belfap after so long

[elder crane]

Waifu
and she's decent enough

Aurora for sure though if you manage to luccsacc her

Jun/Aurora/Ykkz

[karmic forum]

You're justified in using Balfast if theres enough Akagas around

[elder crane]

problem with running foxes is having to farm them

[karmic forum]

The good thing about going with Akaga is that you can just spam cubes on light

[elder crane]

AKaga pre-Amagi/Nagato was never much of an issue anyways for offense side

[karmic forum]

Instead of having to invest in Heavy for WASD

[elder crane]

on the other hand
rateup cons is much easier than stuck in 3-4

which also kills your game progress

[finite valve]

i remember the early game in avrora

[karmic forum]

Not having access to SD also kills your progress

[finite valve]

everyone and their mother was farming 3-4

i say fuck it and move to 8-4

[elder crane]

lol
early on is just who levels more

[proper sorrel]

but thats very early game

[elder crane]

8-4
early game

:kek

[finite valve]

only after my HQ was at 30+ i gone back to farm foxes

[elder crane]

it's going to be "who levels more" for like 2 months

which is more than enough time to pick up and level SoDak

the problem with that ofc is you're leveling SoDak

[proper sorrel]

2 months sounds like a long time

[finite valve]

pretty sure most ppl going to lvl hood first

no reason not to

[karmic forum]

Probably just hard level until the next event comes

[ripe latch]

lvl hood

[karmic forum]

Hope that its CE and you might have something going there

[elder crane]

Pretty sure FW initial run was before ch 8, no?

or around that time

[finite valve]

you can farm qe in like w5 right?

[karmic forum]

For EN?

[finite valve]

i think it was 5-2 or 5-4 something

EN first event was cranes

[karmic forum]

It was a bit after ch.8

[finite valve]

after that should be german and FW?

[elder crane]

Z force, cranes, FW, then germans

[finite valve]

ah yeh z force

[elder crane]

October 26th - November 15th 2018

for FW

[finite valve]

where i lucksacc atago in 10 builds

and get pow in 1 run

[elder crane]

Eyy same with PoW

Atago evaded me until perma addition though

where she was like the third pull lol

December 13th - December 30th 2018
For DC

Oct 8th 2018 for ch 8 in EN, so yeah, right before FW

[karmic forum]

I joined right as Z force ended and luccsacc'd atago

[elder crane]

So yeah, about 2 months in for ch 8, and ch 8 is where I started getting lots of lv100s

so expect the first two months of Amagi server PvP to just be "who levels more"

[karmic forum]

Does Amagi have access to all chapters?

[finite valve]

foxes was the last SR i farmed when starting

[elder crane]

yes, they have access to same perma content

[karmic forum]

Probably just going to be gated by hq reqs

[finite valve]

should

[elder crane]

I farmed foxes in 10 days right after release

[karmic forum]

Which means people running 3:3s and guzzling oil will end up being ahead

[finite valve]

best bet to farm in amagi is brute force straight to 8-4

[elder crane]

nah, oil limited

[finite valve]

there you can either farm 7-2 or 8-4

[proper sorrel]

why to 8-4

[elder crane]

I ran out of oil multiple times farming foxes with 17 oil mob fleet

so yeah

[finite valve]

8-4 is a good place to farm for exp

7-2 is for gold

[elder crane]

1:1 right off the bat, unless you whel

[karmic forum]

Just buy oil

[finite valve]

either place is good

[elder crane]

8-1/2 is a lot easier imo

[proper sorrel]

im already at 200 oil

pretty sure im stuck for a while

[finite valve]

6-4 is also a good stopping point if you want

[karmic forum]

Abuse mahans for the hq exp

[finite valve]

i say 8-2 is better

8-1 is too bottle neck

[proper sorrel]

i'll try to bruteforce my way to world 6

[elder crane]

it's not bottleneck enough to cause issues though

man, having clearing mode will make it sooo much easier for Amagi

[finite valve]

yeh

[elder crane]

to farm ships and XP

[finite valve]

no ambush

LMFAO

the pain of farming for vet player

now they can just use full CA or CL to farm

those days when you need at least 1 DD in fleet for ambush reason

those were the days

[elder crane]

Well, you can mahan pad anyways tbf

[finite valve]

well yeh sure but full CA farm bruh

[elder crane]

what a waste of oil

• I say, as i use nep+Baltimore in mob fleet right now

[finite valve]

[ripe latch]

ok first bunny get

[empty grove]

We all know some guys just gonna empty his wallet on oil & 3:3 to flex

[sterile bluff]

ok what should i do then?

farm 3-4 or just get bunnies

it's sad cuz it's sandy that's on exchange in amagi rn

[ripe latch]

dead server

[sterile bluff]

bruh

[ripe latch]

3-4

[proper sorrel]

i sent my boss fleet on commission so i can't grind

[sterile bluff]

should i save my cubes on amagi for ce or try to pull a yuki?

[ripe latch]

yuki on first chapters and low lvl usless

[sterile bluff]

wut

yay just pulled clevebro XD

being a noob feels awesome

[eager cedar]

I’m surprised there hasn’t been cheaters already for challenge

[sterile bluff]

challenge?

on amagi?

o_O

[ripe latch]

[sour oasis]

I still expect Amagi server to disappear after April.

[sterile bluff]

why tho

i love amagi

[eager cedar]

I’m still waiting for that alleged amagi skin

[sterile bluff]

I'm still waiting for amagi herself

[eager cedar]

Amagilet

[sterile bluff]

amagi D:

[ripe latch]

if amagi server get online - they will realese skin for her

[sterile bluff]

lmao

[sour oasis]

I got news for you @ripe latch...

[ripe latch]

@sour oasis

ppl get 30lvl+

[shell heron]

oh we're skipping right into WASDE meta on the new server I guess

wonder how long it will take for the 1st full 120 fleet

[proper sorrel]

more like who will be the first person to get to w9

[sterile bluff]

ppl have SD already?

wtf

and enty?

[proper sorrel]

oh a lot of people have enty

[sterile bluff]

how...

[proper sorrel]

special

[sterile bluff]

...

dat rng...

[proper sorrel]

no one has SD

it's quite impossible for anyone to have soda right now

[sterile bluff]

ill just wait for amagi

then do ws amagi qe or something

or ws amagi hiryuu

yea that sounds good

[shell heron]

getting 20k merits day 1 is kind of impossible

[sterile bluff]

so how are we skipping right into wasde meta?

[proper sorrel]

Saratoga, Hood, Enterprise is possible

but they're kind of reliant on skill level so they won't be that strong for at least a week or two

[sterile bluff]

why sara and enty?

that seems kinda random

[ripe latch]

put sandy on pvp and get keks ws cv fleet

washi and south + enty only

[sterile bluff]

too bad i don't have wash on amagi

[ripe latch]

hood pretty good too

[shell heron]

what was missing at the beginning was Washington.

[sterile bluff]

ill just stick to hms honestly

easiest way

[shell heron]

but she's perma now with limited rate up

[sterile bluff]

ws is gonna be on exchange anyways

hood ws hiryuu

[ripe latch]

perma

[sterile bluff]

🐰

[proper sorrel]

bunneh

[sterile bluff]

bunneh OP

[craggy kernel]

Washington isnt great for PVP IMO. Even when she came out, she'd get mauled by the fox+BB comps

[ripe latch]

imagine get foxs from first month

[craggy kernel]

And her SODAK invincibility doesn't trigger if Washington dies first

[finite valve]

if you get lucky

you can farm 1:1 if you manage to get ships to 70

[craggy kernel]

wait, is 3-4 considered hard these days?

[finite valve]

depend on who asking

but even in early game 3-4 was no where hard as ppl make it to be

[ripe latch]

if get 2 purple bombers - try sara

[finite valve]

you just need 4 ships at 70 0lb

[sterile bluff]

3-4 is... cancer...

[finite valve]

with some shit AA

[sterile bluff]

i ain't going thru that again...

[finite valve]

and you done

3-4 problem is just AA on the boss

after that is ez

[proper sorrel]

once you get good aa yeah it's easy

[sterile bluff]

by 3-4 do u mean foxgrind or map itself?

[finite valve]

get ships to 70 and put in some AA

[ripe latch]

pff put sandy and easy

[finite valve]

both

[sterile bluff]

foxgrind is cancer

[finite valve]

3-4 was never hard

[sterile bluff]

map is easy tho

[proper sorrel]

map isn't easy for beginners
you get overloaded with planes

[finite valve]

is just that ppl use stupid shit to farm foxes