pvp

[finite valve]

isn't it the same for FGO anyway?

[empty grove]

FGO aint even worth mentioning

Nah

FGO has rare prisms for burning 4* +

[frail orbit]

Dun even give a f4ck for FGO nowadays

Muh pulls are cursed since 2017

[empty grove]

Also the spirit origin "safety net" where you can exchange for one 5* when you get 10

Sounds good?

Nah, you need to NP5 the character first

The entire system is geared for seismic whales

[frail orbit]

BLACK KEYS ALL OVER THE PLACE DAHM YOROKOBE

[empty grove]

Like 10k a month whales

[ionic magnet]

if youre looking for a real shitty gacha system its honkers

[forest lake]

I quit when I didn't get Eresh with 210 SQ

[ionic magnet]

[frail orbit]

^

[finite valve]

isn't genshi or genshin the next game that ppl are interested in?

[forest lake]

Getting Eresh was the deciding factor whether I was gonna go back to being active or just straight up quit

[frail orbit]

Ye, genshin

[finite valve]

sound like a fun system

[forest lake]

Turned out to be the latter so

[frail orbit]

Still on CBT anyways

[empty grove]

You aint losing much by quitting

[finite valve]

well with it being the next game of the series

[frail orbit]

As honk and al whaler

[forest lake]

In fact, I gain much more

[finite valve]

you can bet your ass the system will be the same

[frail orbit]

Anyway hooloo

Honk screwed u up in what way tho

I dont see any problem with it but perhaps thats bkoz me being whel in the 1st place so

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[finite valve]

how was the rate of shard farming?

[ionic magnet]

lets just say i havent gotten a decent pull in 4 months

[finite valve]

i thought most ppl say you can just farm for shard?

[frail orbit]

Focused?

[ionic magnet]

cos im lacking 1 piece of a set mostly

[frail orbit]

Same but hey

[empty grove]

Know what I wish I could exchange for

[frail orbit]

Am not even having Dirac or Kafka smhw

[empty grove]

A login

[frail orbit]

Sandy?

[forest lake]

[frail orbit]

Or avr?

[empty grove]

Cursed vodka

[forest lake]

Both ded anyway

[frail orbit]

Same

[forest lake]

[finite valve]

both sandy and avr are dead

[frail orbit]

Ded as always

Last time was like

[empty grove]

I'm contemplating just stopping at 60k this event

[forest lake]

Smh all these plebs in pleb servers

[frail orbit]

When I checked my acc

Just to check rollback or nope

Thankfully no rollback

[empty grove]

Nah

A rollback is a good thing in this instance

Say you dumped 300 for all ships

Rollback

[frail orbit]

Not for me

[empty grove]

You get the ships & the resources

[frail orbit]

60coobs luccsaccing

[forest lake]

Rollback and take 600 for all ships

[empty grove]

60 is 60

[frail orbit]

And I need muh coobs for research purposes anyways

[empty grove]

[frail orbit]

501 remaining smhw

And gonna use em all to rush research

[empty grove]

I haven't had over 50 cubes since PR2 came out

[frail orbit]

F

[forest lake]

I semi quit and luccsacced continuous 10h cube comms

[frail orbit]

Besides

[jagged steppe]

[frail orbit]

That fleet tech

Am looking for 10k fleet tech smhw

Since raion apparently getting 11k atm if am not wrong

[empty grove]

Im at 12k

Weak

[vague token]

[frail orbit]

Fek off I know am lacking more 120 smhw

[finite valve]

my tech are screw toward JP

as usual

need to lvl up US and HMS

[empty grove]

Think USS is my highest

Once swiftsure drops i'll have all tech maxed

[frail orbit]

And it's just a bit of more shit to get all my ships MLBed Keks

[empty grove]

I need 11 more 120 IB

[frail orbit]

9957 here

[empty grove]

& i've got all bronze medals

[frail orbit]

Mine needs more of IJN backline smhw

And USS too

Tho IJN is my highest shit

[empty grove]

I wish I could go back to using non IB

So many of their ships are garbage

& all backline is 120

[frail orbit]

Am nowadays more into western tea sucker smhw

Well ye

Not even 110ing Horst n Gnei

Like whatever
Lv 100, just gonna wait for better ship than u sure smhw

Also skipping baguette event so

[elder crane]

The 12 120 for medal is impossible kek

[frail orbit]

No JB Dunkek for me

Til rerun

[elder crane]

I ain't using this garbage

[frail orbit]

[elder crane]

24 is

How

Is there even 24 KMS ships :kek:

[zenith tundra]

i'm going for 24 120 ijn slowly

[frail orbit]

No triom too

[zenith tundra]

is avrora in maint again?

[frail orbit]

Ye

Alongside sandy

[zenith tundra]

maybe i can login in the rush after maint

[elder crane]

Avrora hasn't really left maint

[frail orbit]

Not gonna smhw

Perhaps gonna losing gensui race but whatever

[elder crane]

Not for us who have always failed login gatcha

[frail orbit]

As long as my gems for balti skin is there

Am in

[elder crane]

Over a day since I last played AL now

[zenith tundra]

i got in like 2hrs before last reset and then when i woke up for reset i stupidly logged out and gg

[frail orbit]

Same smhw zack

[empty grove]

I managed to log into sandy

But avrora is munted beyond repair

[finite valve]

just embrace the meme

[empty grove]

Bruh I just want my core data

[zenith tundra]

i wouldn't mind doing dailies for gold since i didn't get reno...

[frail orbit]

Who cares about core data smhw

Nothing even good sans 831 for me

[empty grove]

VF-17 is getting added soon tho

[frail orbit]

Formie's DB slot being so rudimentary smhw

[empty grove]

[frail orbit]

Topkeks

Imagine EN getting pirates

[empty grove]

& I like my meme Oxy

[frail orbit]

Not even today

[empty grove]

Ofc not

EN always gotta me months behind

[frail orbit]

Already having 12, 6 at +10 so whatever

[empty grove]

I'm on 15

Still need more

[zenith tundra]

technically jp and cn didn't get pirates today too

next month

[empty grove]

Next reset huh

[frail orbit]

Ye but at least they got guaranteed keks on next reset

For sub yes

But am not even usually running torpmemes so whatever

[zenith tundra]

is that for fleet power padding? like overall fleet power ranking

[empty grove]

18 is what i'm going for anyway

[frail orbit]

Unless PVP
Bkos screw gunbote, muh torps is better bb slayer

Am looking for a 16 minimum anyways

[empty grove]

You mean that fleet power ranking?

[zenith tundra]

yes

[empty grove]

Yeah nah

That shit is literally all ships at every LB stage

All geared out

[frail orbit]

Imagine still using rainbow dildo for fleet padding

How so lv80ish

[empty grove]

I mean

Only the whales with too much money do fleet power ranking

Since it does nothing for you at all

[zenith tundra]

technically speaking max fleet power is having all vg ships with 2 oxy equipped

[frail orbit]

Ye

But who cares about fleet power smhw

[static gull]

me

[empty grove]

Ok

Then

Time for

Base

[frail orbit]

👌

[empty grove]

LB

[static gull]

i like big numbers

[empty grove]

lB 2

MLB

[frail orbit]

[zenith tundra]

i don't really care for fleet tech that is actually useful...

[frail orbit]

Am only looking for at least 12k-13k fleet tech smhw

What's the maximum fleet tech tho on EN?

[static gull]

fleet tech?

fleet power mb

[empty grove]

As many 120 as you could get now is the max

[frail orbit]

That, we know

[empty grove]

Unless you wanna calc it out, go ahead

[frail orbit]

But considering am skipping baguette for OSCE

Whatever

Feels like wont gonna hit 12k asap smhw

[finite valve]

non of the end game function worth a damn for AL

[frail orbit]

#medstudagony

[finite valve]

you already can clear most content even with out those

is not even for min maxing

just something to brag about

[empty grove]

My fleet tech is just a consequence of getting medals

[static gull]

i wonder will we see 150 cap level for example or smth similar

[frail orbit]

And thats the point of this game anyways

Getting waifu

And brag em all

[finite valve]

150 should be max

only for CN JP tho

[empty grove]

So many 120 now it lost all meaning

[zenith tundra]

al is a bit too casual for anything past 120 xp tbh

[finite valve]

isn't it the same for any waifu game?

[empty grove]

I'm talking about commander level

[finite valve]

get core team to max lvl

get new waifu

[zenith tundra]

oh commander level

[finite valve]

rise and repeat

[empty grove]

It's capped at 120 on EN for some reason

[frail orbit]

At least no worry for my dock smhw

[zenith tundra]

u should have it with w13 don't see why u shouldn't

[frail orbit]

Already at 700 dockspace

Should I max it to 2k tho

[finite valve]

just use AK dock space where you can't get dups

[jagged steppe]

I dont understand

at all

[finite valve]

[jagged steppe]

for what?

[frail orbit]

[finite valve]

for the 2 new kai?

[empty grove]

I'm confused too

Since the check in you'd be missing is the last days

[jagged steppe]

shouldn't everyone supposedto have like infinite of this thing?

[frail orbit]

Anyway kuru

Hows ur dockspace

[empty grove]

2k

[finite valve]

dk bro

[empty grove]

[frail orbit]

Fok

[finite valve]

also what is the last login reward?

[frail orbit]

[jagged steppe]

12cube

[finite valve]

something stupid i suppose

[empty grove]

2.1k gold

[finite valve]

[frail orbit]

Are u ultra whale or something smhw

[zenith tundra]

for jp is 2.1k gold

[empty grove]

12 cubes today

Ye

[finite valve]

yeh useless shit

2.1k gold

[frail orbit]

Keks

[finite valve]

i can get that much from 1 day of playing

[empty grove]

I wouldn't care if I could log in once

[frail orbit]

Sasugay miruku

[finite valve]

[frail orbit]

[finite valve]

4chan going to have a fucking field day comparing AL to FGO

the meme is real

[empty grove]

I got on

[jagged steppe]

fgo>al

kappa

[empty grove]

I'm stuck on loading tho

[frail orbit]

FGO no marriage so whatever

[jagged steppe]

dont double click

[finite valve]

[jagged steppe]

if u stuck at loading

[empty grove]

Ok hm time

Fuck

[jagged steppe]

you double click

it send u back

[frail orbit]

^

[jagged steppe]

and popup network error

just click once

and wait

[zenith tundra]

i double clicked and logged in lol

[empty grove]

I was trying once on my phone or PC each minute

PVP can SMD

I need my dailies

[frail orbit]

Same

[zenith tundra]

and got sent back to login

[jagged steppe]

need my daily com

but no time

ono

[vague token]

i just want to research X_x

[frail orbit]

And I need to spend my gems for Balti
And research coobs smhw

That tattoo

[empty grove]

I would buy gems but

I aint risking that shit getting rolled back

[frail orbit]

Same

Wait til the server stabilized enuff

[empty grove]

Holy shit is it laggy

[jagged steppe]

what sv u on?

[empty grove]

Avrora

[zenith tundra]

it's laggy till it kicks u out

[empty grove]

I'm doing what I can before it annihilates me

[finite valve]

mine up keep popping error message

[zenith tundra]

time to do pvp after missing another 5 attempts...

[frail orbit]

Just gonna wait til server stabilized enuff

And do dailies on honk

[zenith tundra]

doing pvp is a bad idea... stuck on connection refused message after

[frail orbit]

See

Thats why just skip today gensui race smhw

[finite valve]

gensui should be tomorrow tho

is only thursday today

[frail orbit]

Ye

[zenith tundra]

ok seems like everything is just as before only different people logged in....

[static gull]

thank god playing pvp now is a piece of cake

press the button once and you are free for 20-30 minutes

and you have spare time to do some work

[zenith tundra]

stupid sub sirens suck dick. losing 30% hp of backline only to stupid sub suicide dmg is a shitty mechanic

[vague token]

sounds like you need more asw

instead of just eating suicide damage

;)

[zenith tundra]

fuck asw

[vague token]

well then you get what you pay for xD

[zenith tundra]

why do u need that shit for 1 possible battle

it makes 0 sense

[empty grove]

Please tell me they have base defence again

[vague token]

i mean, it hits you for literally 1 fight

then you hit retreat

switch in 1 asw ship

then go back in

[zenith tundra]

no extra bonus pts if that's what u want

d2 already has 3 sirens and 3rd one is unknown which one is

[empty grove]

Disgusting

[jagged steppe]

I remember thgere is sub reveal ship

[vague token]

warspite can use asw planes too

since pvp is destroyed just toss 2 there

toss koln in

you're good

;)

[empty grove]

Ok dailies done

[zenith tundra]

the problem is fighting 105 enemies with trash asw gear

[empty grove]

Guess i'll try to get my x3

[vague token]

what level is your koln lol

im pretty sure 100 chaser + some carry ship and 100 koln with maybe a carry tank should be fine

[zenith tundra]

i'll use dido qe and maybe ryuuhou in d3

[vague token]

oh

ok

well im not there yet since i just got in

xD

[empty grove]

Wtf is this

Heavy mist

[vague token]

i love fog of war

[ionic magnet]

how do you guys get in

[empty grove]

Have you hit safe on a map yet zack?

[zenith tundra]

it's just stupid because u don't need asw for literally anything but 1 fight

[ionic magnet]

[empty grove]

On JP

[zenith tundra]

even bosses don't need asw

yes

[empty grove]

Does that fog vanish?

[ionic magnet]

wot jp

[zenith tundra]

clearing mode removes the debuff yes

[empty grove]

Ok nice

Guess i'll level gascan this event

[jagged steppe]

yo

I got x2 12cube today

they giev conpensation of 27th

but today still 26

[empty grove]

Ok so

That means they expect it to persist

[zenith tundra]

they are giving login rewards

[empty grove]

I guess I aint logging out

[jagged steppe]

they expect it to crash again

[vague token]

gotta do my dailies reee

[jagged steppe]

so they giuve conpensation

in advance

OR

they just misread

the date

and give wrong item

[empty grove]

Both

[zenith tundra]

this event is so messed up... why do cv nodes have bb and bb nodes don't. wtf sense does it make

[vague token]

it's themed with the fog of war

[zenith tundra]

it's themed with shit programming and random bullshit

[static gull]

nice

2088 top score on sandy, very interesting

[empty grove]

Ok so

[crisp niche]

are exercises working now?

[empty grove]

Apparently PVP boots you off

[crisp niche]

ok that sounds like a no

[empty grove]

I aint touching that shit

I sacked on getting in

Aint risking

[vague token]

need muh pve

[static gull]

it's like that person somehow managed to use 5 attempts without losing them at night

yeah, more pve missions or pvp

[zenith tundra]

if u miss the initial window after servers reopen u don't get in anymore. it's pretty clear that more people then the server can handle are trying to play at the same time.

i don't see an actual fix anytime soon

[hot creek]

oshit I got to home screen

but it doesnt let me do anything else

connection refused

someone was able to do their pvps on sandy?

[zenith tundra]

i was stuck on connection refused after a pvp attempt and had to get out

since then couldn't login again

[midnight heron]

im more confused as to how ppl r getting into servers when its maint

[zenith tundra]

it's not really a maint

it's a fake one

so people don't try and login

[forest lake]

Wait nani

I got a - 1 despite winning rank 1

[zenith tundra]

[forest lake]

At least I got a +1 later on to compensate

But could've been +3 this reset

[zenith tundra]

at least is not another -50

[shell heron]

Wait you can get in?

[zenith tundra]

some people are playing

u cannot login anymore unless really lucky i guess

server is full for sure

[forest lake]

Washy server

[empty grove]

Did anyone try pvp yet

I di all my dailies I wanna know if I should try & fuck myself

[zenith tundra]

i tried earlier and here i am looking at login screen

[hybrid ember]

i need a fleet for pvp, any recommendations pls

[shell heron]

Avrora has been dead for me all day.

[zenith tundra]

dunno if u want to try

[empty grove]

Yeah fuck it

-5 w/e

Already beyond fucked anyway

[forest lake]

@hybrid ember just recycle your pve fleet for now

[hybrid ember]

my pve fleet keeps losing in pvp

[shell heron]

I see the making of belfast/Juneau/yukikaze for vanguard

[zenith tundra]

out of those use enty hood and rodney for backline and belfast yukikaze z23

there is nothing u can do with those levels

level up in pve 1st

[forest lake]

Well nothing can be better than your pve fleet already
Just invest into them
You can't get really far into pvp with those levels

[empty grove]

Stuck on my phone too

[hybrid ember]

Well nothing can be better than your pve fleet already
Just invest into them
You can't get really far into pvp with those levels
@forest lake i only fight those that have low power, but some can actually beat me despite having low power

[shell heron]

Levels are very important. 5 levels up is already huge

[zenith tundra]

u won't beat any 120 1:1 at those levels tbh

if they are equipped

[shell heron]

Power doesnt mean everything. Optimal gear wont give max power normally

[midnight heron]

power is newbie trap

[shell heron]

Lvl 50 max is a little low for pvp. Forget lvl 120 1:1. Lvl 100s would be rough

[hybrid ember]

oof

[shell heron]

For now. Keep belfast,yukikaze,enterprise and hood in mind for leveling.

[frail orbit]

Only power that is relevant is just 2
Level up ur ships and ur skill

As in ship skill

[shell heron]

If you find a juneau. Level her too.

[zenith tundra]

don't level juneau before better pve ships

she just sucks in pve

[shell heron]

Fair enough. Not useful until ch12

Even then she's only there for aa

[midnight heron]

no shes there to heal

[shell heron]

On pve?

[midnight heron]

ah well 1min to reset rip my main's dailies

[shell heron]

Honestly should have seen this coming and not did pulls and did dailies instead

[midnight heron]

i didnt even login once lmao

[shell heron]

I had 5 minutes before they booted me mid build

[midnight heron]

when they announced server up i was asleep, and woke up to "sandy/avrora will be going into maint again"

[zenith tundra]

i don't get why they don't use at least a queue system.... if the servers are full let people que to login eventually. like this is like impossible to ever get in

[midnight heron]

thought someone screenshotted a queue popup

[zenith tundra]

not on avrora

most likely not sandy too

i saw it on washi

[midnight heron]

[empty grove]

I've sent a que screenshot before

[zenith tundra]

that's why i don't get why they don't implement it on avrora

i have que for sandy too

it's just avrora that's fucked up

[ashen lion]

Good luck guys, lol.

[jagged steppe]

laugh in avrora

what ais queing?

[zenith tundra]

current avrora gameplay is looking at hms intrepid in the login screen

[zenith tundra]

i logged in on sandy 2min ago

wtf maint is that

[midnight heron]

[empty grove]

Ok

No chat

I legit had a 30 second load time clicking on someones name

[zenith tundra]

if u can farm who cares about chat

[coral wren]

Are we back

[empty grove]

I wanted to know how many people were on

I don't wanna hard farm either

[coral wren]

I missed about 10 ticks at this point

[empty grove]

Everyone did

PVP would crash you too

[coral wren]

what the hell is this update

[empty grove]

I wanna check friends

But at the same time, I don't wanna click it

[zenith tundra]

just too many people for al servers

[coral wren]

Is JP and CN having the same problem?

[empty grove]

Lol no

Actually

I think China was

[coral wren]

man when did Sandy got too popular

[zenith tundra]

jp maint ended exactly on time and i've been playing with 0 problems

[empty grove]

& JP had one server go off

In this instance atm tho, only EN is affected

[coral wren]

It's like every degenerate is active at the same time

[zenith tundra]

servers just can't handle the amount of people

till they do something about that there is no hope

[coral wren]

Game is suffering from success

well at least it's not full like earlier

I ended up falling asleep because of tht

Ah yes. Network error

[empty grove]

It's still dead tho

Only a few people got on

[coral wren]

Lol I got Bremen on my Lexington

[empty grove]

My sandy alt got all but the elite in 2 10 pulls

Damn alts

[zenith tundra]

if it lags that badly that u cannot see chat the server must really be full

[coral wren]

Cooper and marble?

[empty grove]

Nah

Chat is fine

Cooper is the elite

Missed her

The loading screen was on clicking a name

Like view profile/medals etc

[coral wren]

I got them together with intre

Then bremen

I'm not really playing on this lvl 25 account tho

[empty grove]

Also

Why tf is this boss a sub

[coral wren]

You just wait until it rises

[empty grove]

You can do it without ASW right?

[coral wren]

Yes

[zenith tundra]

a3/c3/b3/d3 are subs

they surface really quick

[coral wren]

Its gonna go up in like 20 secs

[empty grove]

Easy enough then

[coral wren]

Still can't get on

[midnight heron]

[coral wren]

I'm gonna sue yostar if my shipgirls starves to death

At least let me feed them

[midnight heron]

well they already shindeiru since emergency maint

[coral wren]

[midnight heron]

all dat passive exp gone compensate exp pls

[coral wren]

They should give us enough apologems to buy the newest l2d

[midnight heron]

whats worse is the fact dat they cant compensate for time loss for event grinding

[vague token]

i mean they could extend to 3 weeks

xD

[coral wren]

They could extend the event

[midnight heron]

well i wish

[coral wren]

I mean they should

Got on but im scared to do pvp

The thing didn't even move since earlier lol

[vague token]

just gonna ignore pvp now lol

next season

[midnight heron]

i managed to pvp on lex no problem

[coral wren]

yeh I don't wanna get dced

Try pvp on sandy

You'll get dced after a match

[midnight heron]

if login is even allowed

[coral wren]

Even clicking refresh is bad

[midnight heron]

didnt even get free daily cat box

[coral wren]

I'm just glad I could feed my babies

[zenith tundra]

imagine being actually able to play without stupid stuff like this

[midnight heron]

by now i wud be feeding corpses

[coral wren]

Gonna start playing on jp soon

jk it's too late

no matter how shitty it gets , I'm not gonna abandon this

unlike GFL. I quit that shit last month

[midnight heron]

if they allowed save porting maybe i wud

[zenith tundra]

they should make a new server in en and allow people to port to it for free

[coral wren]

Is there a way to move your account?

[zenith tundra]

nah

[midnight heron]

no

[coral wren]

new server

I heard there's more servers in CN

why do we only have 4

or was it 5

[static gull]

they should make a new server in en and allow people to port to it for free
@zenith tundra is it your hypothesis?

[zenith tundra]

it's 17 in jp and like 23 in cn

[coral wren]

wtf

No wonder they don't suffer server problems

[zenith tundra]

i think that is a solution to move some of the traffic from avrora/sandy to a completely new server that would benefit everyone

[coral wren]

free for all

[midnight heron]

en got less budget

[coral wren]

yeah

Not enough weeb

can you do pvp on that PS4 game?

[zenith tundra]

current situation is not sustainable in the long term... people will quit unless they don't care about that

[midnight heron]

nah crosswave is pve only

[zenith tundra]

i don't think u can do pvp in crosswave

[polar wren]

such a shame too

Crosswave was the perfect opportunity for live pvp

and it was pissed away

[midnight heron]

but yea if playerbase keeps growing but servers remain the same we gonna hav problems

[zenith tundra]

the problems are already here

i played like 15min in 26hrs

[polar wren]

yea i dont call 25 hour maintenance going to have a problem

i call it having a problem

[midnight heron]

thing is we dk if its due to the increased ppl staying home for covid19

or an actual playerbase increase

if u get the diff

[polar wren]

i am inclined to believe that people being at home would decrease the amount of players not increase

[static gull]

I checked Intrepid and if im not mistaken, she is better than enty

[zenith tundra]

so what en servers will have problems till covid19 is dead?

[polar wren]

a lot of people play mobile as a back up when they dont have their computers or consoles.

there are plenty of casuals doing that

[midnight heron]

[polar wren]

so people being at home would mean they have other platforms. should decrease the amount of players logging in

[midnight heron]

my phone is actually quite laggy so i mainly grind on emulators

pvp still fine since it doesnt require much time

[zenith tundra]

she does a lot but not much really relevant to current meta. her dr and fire negation are way too low hp threshold. her dot might be interesting but who knows if actually better then other stuff @static gull

[polar wren]

Yea, i also use an emulator, but i am not talkin about the few of us, i am talkin about the thousands and thousands of casual players

[coral wren]

This problem only started after maintenance

[static gull]

who cares about meta

[coral wren]

I had no trouble with pvp n stuff before maint

[polar wren]

Yea, which is why i am inclined to believe that they fouled it up during maintenance and its nothin to do with an increase in players

[midnight heron]

it started since sandy had login issues on previous maint

those were warning signs

[coral wren]

Pvp breaking specifically makes me wonder if it's really a player problem

[polar wren]

rip my PVP season tho

[midnight heron]

it blew up dis maint

[polar wren]

it blew up this maintenance but it was having problems last time

[coral wren]

every maintenance yeah

[zenith tundra]

major event means more people which completely killed servers

[midnight heron]

but when sandy had problems there was no event iirc

[coral wren]

Last time it had connection problem, there was no major event

It was fixed quickly too

[midnight heron]

which is y i said its hard to pinpoint where the exact issues lie

covid? server? or playerbase?

[coral wren]

Also other servers would be suffering too if it's just player problems

why avrora and Sandy specifically

that's the question

[zenith tundra]

if we go with covid19 hypothesis it makes sense that more people are playing

[jagged steppe]

^

[midnight heron]

sandy spread the server virus to avrora

[coral wren]

it's been like that since January though

[zenith tundra]

avrora had the most amount of inactive people which means it was the easiest to get more overpopulated

[coral wren]

Well not every country went on lockdown right away

Damn

[jagged steppe]

litterly everygame I know

getting ++++ player from jan

even a dead game like this

a comptlely dead gme

[coral wren]

Wish you can track club penguin players

[jagged steppe]

still gain alot of people

[zenith tundra]

if they allowed the creation of more account then it could handle due to inactive people it's easy to see why now that people are playing more it has the most problems

[static gull]

just create a few huge servers

wtf cn has more than 20

[zenith tundra]

they aren't making anymore which is a problem too

[midnight heron]

we need a player count of each region

[jagged steppe]

they dont expect to have more player

actally any game in the world dont really expect to randomly gaining bunches of player

[static gull]

no, i mean, al need just 2-3 servers for en with a great capacity and stability

[zenith tundra]

ok so last week was a sign that more people are playing. this week it's plain and simple clear that there are too many players. now they need to come with countermeasures

[ripe latch]

0 best, 10 pools still nothing

[jagged steppe]

increasing server capacity doesn't work like that

[ripe latch]

[jagged steppe]

you cant just buy more server

and bam

more server capacity

it doesn't work like that

[zenith tundra]

they need to create new ones and allow people to move to them

[static gull]

and close current one

[jagged steppe]

it work like this

[ripe latch]

[jagged steppe]

you need one bigass database

and many server

[midnight heron]

||just download more ram capacity||

[jagged steppe]

if server1 full then using 2nd server to access database

i dont know if they does this

or just using 1server:1database

if they design the program to be like

many server to access 1 database

its easy to increase capacity

but I doubt it

[static gull]

Anyway i don;t understand for what reason they spam with servers if game has no online cooperation like mmorpg

[jagged steppe]

for ranking

[zenith tundra]

i don't think it is like that. it would allow people to move from server to server easily which isn't the case

[jagged steppe]

fgo had 1 server cuz it had no ranking

[static gull]

or switching between servers yes

[midnight heron]

theres limited cooperation like suruga/essex events if you count those

[zenith tundra]

anyone ever passed past connectionrefuse? stuck ingame but cannot ever pass that message

[jagged steppe]

what sv?

[zenith tundra]

avrora...

[midnight heron]

servers wud probably explode if they allowed real time coop tho lul

[jagged steppe]

I didn't get that msg yet

[static gull]

if you use emulator just close the game and try anew

[jagged steppe]

many servers are like it give an option for developer to do things in future

[zenith tundra]

but i'm ingame not in the login screen

[jagged steppe]

like server event

or ranking

but it bad for player

if you have freind on other sever

and one day the game had coop

then u're screwd

and then again they just add cross server friend

i've seen this shit on many game

countless time

[static gull]

game is 3 years old and has no coop mode, what are you talking about

[zenith tundra]

i don't expect al to get stuff like that

[jagged steppe]

it not happen doesn't mean it will n ever happen who know

if you're game devloper

[ripe latch]

still ddos idea so good, another build pool - trash

[jagged steppe]

you just gonna make sure its possible even you dont do it

[midnight heron]

its rly rare to see mobage with full coop or if it even existed

[frail orbit]

Just AL being a waifu game smhw

[jagged steppe]

game nowaday

no coop

[frail orbit]

No tryhards dehm

[jagged steppe]

cuz game made for casual

[static gull]

I'd like to ask developers, but we can as far as i know

[jagged steppe]

cuz casual game made more money

all hardcore game dying since many years ago

[static gull]

yeah, people become weak

[jagged steppe]

no

people nowaday are born with good family

people like 30-40 years old born at the time everything is hard

kid nowaday not working hard as hard as older gen kid

[midnight heron]

i think devs avoid coop cuz ppl dont like being forced to coop

[static gull]

and how it affects on young generation

[jagged steppe]

lets say

if you're 40 years old

30 years ago

you need to walk

to school

[zenith tundra]

i hate being forced to coop for anything in a game

[static gull]

what

[jagged steppe]

you need to do million shit

it make you used to working hard

[blazing scroll]

The best thing would be borrowing other people's boats in pve

Like a rep

[static gull]

at mid-30 i wont play games i guess

[blazing scroll]

I don't see anything else co-op related

[jagged steppe]

I mean

[midnight heron]

borrow dev30 fdg

[jagged steppe]

the game 10-20years ago

are made for hardcore

the game nowaday

made for more casual

but in contrast

when the game made for casual

its easier to addictec

d

when people addicted to the game

they become tryhard

[upper sparrow]

avrora and sandy mt again

[static gull]

i see what you mean, but i was talking about high level content

it must be hard

[zenith tundra]

does it really even matter? it has been 26hrs of maint for a lot people already

[jagged steppe]

im100% sure everyone here start play this game casually and addicted to it and tryhard to it and then want tryhard content

[static gull]

that's what i wanted to say

but w13 isn't that thing

[jagged steppe]

but the nthis game dont have enough tryhard content

[blazing scroll]

I was a try hard from the beginning, but I'm casual now

[static gull]

and guilds were created for something that isn't even in game

[midnight heron]

im addicted casual who doesnt bother with tryhard pve

[blazing scroll]

[midnight heron]

havent even touched w13

[jagged steppe]

they tell me to not logging in

[zenith tundra]

that's the 1 message everyone is saying tbh

[jagged steppe]

I go pvp

and got kicked out

lmfao

[upper sparrow]

im addicted casual who doesnt bother with tryhard pve

[jagged steppe]

mean hes addicted to the game

and do pvp

[midnight heron]

inb4 maint last till monday cuz weekends

[jovial sedge]

Why sandy must suffer

[upper sparrow]

[ripe latch]

anyone have sandys gif emoji?

[static gull]

sandy is numba one in everything

[jovial sedge]

Even not working server

[upper sparrow]

@ripe latchthis?

[ripe latch]

but need more..

[static gull]

like this?

[jovial sedge]

[jovial sedge]

Yet arknights ok

Same yostar

[midnight heron]

where u get nono

[upper sparrow]

oh the lil mod not coming here now, they just "aight imma headout" and just bothering general now

[jovial sedge]

No one was prepared for this

[upper sparrow]

its hilarious a new lil mod give a warn to zack and other just bcs discussing about pr research

[ripe latch]

lil mods just lockdown channels and go sleep

[static gull]

meanwhile dev's are in a process of repairing sandy

[jagged steppe]

in this ch?

or in other ch

[ripe latch]

other

[upper sparrow]

in this ch?

wdym?

[jagged steppe]

where id they discussing about pr?

*did

here?

[upper sparrow]

in this channel

[jagged steppe]

when?

[upper sparrow]

just search off topic or smthing in search bar

[ripe latch]

#tech-support

[blazing scroll]

Imagine trying to mod PvP channel

[jagged steppe]

imagine being a super stricted mod in a casual waifu game

[static gull]

lol

[frail orbit]

Well gameplay help sure got loaded anyways

This is why #pvp is a haven

[jagged steppe]

heaven

[frail orbit]

[ripe latch]

u fight against dev - log or disconnect

[midnight heron]

[frail orbit]

Lul

At least have seen mine not getting rollbacked

It's already fine for me

[upper sparrow]

here if u want to know @jagged steppe

[jagged steppe]

ROFL

[upper sparrow]

pr is not related to pvp now

[jagged steppe]

is that mod still here?

[upper sparrow]

[midnight heron]

just acknowledge it and move on lul not like they gonna ban u for dat

[frail orbit]

No more Russian nightmare pls

160 coobs til all hit smhw

I need muh research coobs smhw

[blazing scroll]

More like move on and continue in an hour or something

[jagged steppe]

they cant just ban pr chat right? it make no sense

as long as you casn use pr eq/ship in pvp

bruh

[zenith tundra]

must have been related to my last 3 lines when i was talking about why i couldn't use cubes for research

[jagged steppe]

the solution so simple

create #pvp-offtopic

[ionic magnet]

that mod is obv new

[upper sparrow]

lets end that topic about that lil mod i feel bad now

[ionic magnet]

he'll know the rules soon enough

[jagged steppe]

[upper sparrow]

the rules is no rule here amirite

[blazing scroll]

[midnight heron]

#pvp-lawless

[zenith tundra]

u know sometimes i don't mind mods around...

[jagged steppe]

^

imagine having pvp-lawless

and mods are like

[ionic magnet]

well sure

but pr research really

[zenith tundra]

general has slowmode on. i don't think they can allow channels like that to exist on long term

[jagged steppe]

gameplay help also slow mode isn't it?

[zenith tundra]

gameplay help is permanent

[jagged steppe]

someone do it

[zenith tundra]

u can ask in #discord-feedback

[jagged steppe]

should I?

[zenith tundra]

they will say no

up to you

[frail orbit]

Thing is

Aint gameplay help basically flooded tho

Even yesterday was like

Wtf is this

[upper sparrow]

should i use new torp bomb on formi, or still stick on ryuusei?

[frail orbit]

Dehm so much for those spam login trouble smhw

Nah

[upper sparrow]

using form-centy btw

[frail orbit]

Ryusei/Cuda

[jagged steppe]

other channal had like 100 million people talking

[frail orbit]

Ryusei for aimed

[jagged steppe]

this ch ad like 20?

[frail orbit]

Cuda for max crash dmg

[frail orbit]

That new torp parallel
Also 300 crash dmg smhw

[zenith tundra]

i'm pretty sure u can use it but night need to check timings

[upper sparrow]

not new torp bomb on centaur then?

[jagged steppe]

218 here only around 10-20 talking

[frail orbit]

Nein

[ionic magnet]

cudas > ryuusei > new plane

[frail orbit]

Ryusei/Cuda, period

[ionic magnet]

[frail orbit]

Depends on what u really want

[jagged steppe]

new plane flood damage is garbage right?

[blazing scroll]

Cudas remain OG

[frail orbit]

Ye

[vague token]

what is the avi ratio on the flood

[frail orbit]

Also if u have no HPFCR just crash dmg

[jagged steppe]

is interpid helldiver bonus that bad?

[frail orbit]

If u have HPFCR then go for aimed

[jagged steppe]

im sure nobody had lv10 of her skill yet

[upper sparrow]

im sure zack or blue say new torp bomb has better damage than cuda, or im drunk at that time

[frail orbit]

Yes

[zenith tundra]

1st vt-18 is bugged right now so wait for flood dmg fix. 2nd no one tested it since pvp is pretty much suicide so nobody can say for sure

[frail orbit]

But thing is

Parallel dont do shit usually

Cuda do shit tho

And thats bkoz

Crash dmg

[jagged steppe]

sujicide

[frail orbit]

Highest crash dmg

Aka kamikaze

[zenith tundra]

if the dot is good why not...

[frail orbit]

Or suicide dmg

[ionic magnet]

new plane has better torp dmg but slower and lower crash dmg

[frail orbit]

Also that too

[vague token]

if the dot is even like .1

[frail orbit]

Slow ass reload

[blazing scroll]

Imagine missing all torps #ryuusei

[vague token]

it should add like 40 damage per tick

min

[jagged steppe]

when I use akagi+kaga using akagi 818 and aoe slow and release plan like 2s faster than kaga causing kaga's helldriver to deal alot of dmg

thats what i've done

[vague token]

if it's higher than .1 it'll overtake the crash damage loss

[upper sparrow]

hmmm ok ok

[vague token]

unless you proc 0 floods

[frail orbit]

Thing is

Using Formie is different

From using 818

[zenith tundra]

dmg scaling should be around 0.15 aviarion

[frail orbit]

818 carry should launch 1st for airstrike timing

[upper sparrow]

how about new torp bomb on enty?

[jagged steppe]

400 aviation,60 damage?

[vague token]

well you'd obviously have more than 400 avi

[frail orbit]

But
Formi SHOULD LAUNCH 2nd after Centaur/Hiryuu, whatever u used

[jagged steppe]

enty x2 120 dmg?!

[vague token]

no

dots are purely from base stats

[jagged steppe]

zzzzzzz

[vague token]

not adjusted by damage multiplier

otherwise sodak would have the biggest fire in existence

[frail orbit]

Not even scalable smhw

The DOT it is

Atm

[blazing scroll]

Imagine enty with 2x suicide dmg cudas

[upper sparrow]

if dots get multiplier by lucky e imagine how broken is it

[frail orbit]

And only 3x10 tick smhw

[upper sparrow]

[frail orbit]

[jagged steppe]

I remember someone said enty can x2 suicide dmg isn't it?

[zenith tundra]

hiryuu has 564 aviation with 2 defensive aux

[upper sparrow]

dots and suicide plane damage has different mechanic?

im pretty sure about that

[vague token]

dots are held together by spaghetti

[ionic magnet]

not sure about enty x2 suicide dmg

[frail orbit]

^

[ionic magnet]

never tested

[vague token]

they have their own rules that are weird

[frail orbit]

Also tick is derp

Imagine got 1 less tick koz of 🍝

[zenith tundra]

fire is borderline broken in pvp

[upper sparrow]

how much plane crash damage contribute to total plane damage?

[frail orbit]

Crash dmg aint scalable tbh

That stat u have seen

Thats the raw stats

[blazing scroll]

I don't know how the 🍝 code works with double suicide damage but this is the formula:

[zenith tundra]

crash dmg is fixed and then scaled down by hp% at the end of the screen to a minimum of 30% iirc

[upper sparrow]

math

[frail orbit]

^

[vague token]

crash damage is straight forward

but note that AA does reduce it

[frail orbit]

^

[vague token]

dots ignore any and all damage resistance ;)

[frail orbit]

So basically