#pvp
forest lake
zenith tundra
doesn't matter where it is. it just allows u to see waifus in vertical screen on phone instead of always horizontal
frail orbit
So basically
karmic forum
Oh I thought they were adding a ship performance screen to the game didn't know that it was part of the previous statement
frail orbit
From her head to her toes eh
ripe latch
From Wednesday, April 1, 2020, the following equipment will be added (reprinted) to the core shop.
SSR "Sea Fury"
SSR `` F4U (VF-17 Company) ''
zenith tundra
i'll get like 3-4 vf not sure need more seafury tho
frail orbit
3 for me enuff perhaps hopefully
ripe latch
SSR
"Intrepid" 2% (pickup / advanced implementation)
"Reno" 2% (pickup / leading implementation)
"Bremerton" 0.5% (advance implementation)
SR
"Cooper" 2.5% (pickup / advanced implementation)
R
"Marblehead" 5% (pickup / leading implementation)
ok
zenith tundra
if u use both centy and lusty u need 4 lol
karmic forum
Pog
karmic forum
We get vf17s
frail orbit
The buff aint stack
zenith tundra
speed meme
ripe latch
its patch for all servers?
zenith tundra
plus does more dmg then other fighters
frail orbit
Lul speedmeme
zenith tundra
only jp/cn. en not out yet
zenith tundra
it has special t0 bombs that do more dmg then other t0 bombs "2 x 500lb VF-17 Bomb T0"
ripe latch
Limited ships added to "Special shipbuilding"
Ryujo 1.4% (pickup)
ripe latch
link on this event?
zenith tundra
it's the one we have now
ripe latch
maybe not see
zenith tundra
for ryuujou
forest lake
Oof
zenith tundra
way too broken for core data tbh
needs to be hard to get so i expect research 25 bps
forest lake
yea she gonna get lots of big-torpedos in her alright 
static gull
h-artist right know be like
forest lake
AL version of emergence
static gull
Al version of stretta 
zenith tundra
are they actually kidding 11:00～20:00 maint time in jp
i can't imagine en maint time if jp is 9hrs
omg gonna to actually need to go to 0/10 before that since u completely miss 1 entire reset
zenith tundra
it's still bonkers time but if they actually fix servers is fine
zenith tundra
will en maint be like 12hrs.... LOL
forest lake
Yikes
zenith tundra
ok... does it needs to be in #pvp ? #trophy-room seems more indicated for trophies
zenith tundra
ok don't worry it just seemed weird
upper sparrow
jagged steppe
maybe need create more ch
empty owl
But um actually do you think I can improve her any more?
jagged steppe
pvp-offtopic
upper sparrow
mod is haunting this channel anyway so N
zenith tundra
u can post images if u are asking for equipment on a ship
empty owl
jagged steppe
empty owl
She's teamed up with Queen Elizabeth
zenith tundra
i would auxiliaries to sg rudder or white rudder
zenith tundra
also if u have any nepgun or seattle gun extra they are better then belgun as aux gun
upper sparrow
qe doesnt increase hit rate amirite 
zenith tundra
no
empty owl
Um what guns are the nep or seattle?
zenith tundra
pr1 cl gun and pr2 cl gun respectively
empty owl
I don't have them yet ^^'
upper sparrow
well belgun is ok if u dont have both of them yet
zenith tundra
keep belgun then on her
empty owl
Ok
upper sparrow
wot seattle gun named triple 152mm too 
empty owl
And the only reason I didn't give her evasive gear is because I put her diagonal against the strongest enemy ship
zenith tundra
there are 6 triple 152mm
jagged steppe
zenith tundra
then use sg white shell. is much better then both shells
jagged steppe
why people dont like fire control radar?
if I have fireccontrol I think i'll use it
zenith tundra
the extra hit will help with her barrage landing
empty owl
Ok
upper sparrow
purple fcr? sg radar gold is much better tbh
upper sparrow
idk about hfcr tho since i dont have it 
jagged steppe
I like more fire powar
zenith tundra
it's an old equip so i don't think anyone who doesn't have nep guns can have it
empty owl
I gave monarch and queen Elizabeth SG radar
upper sparrow
FW rerun when 
zenith tundra
that's fine hit and evasion are good stats. i usually use sg rudder/beaver on bb
if u don't have anymore u can keep the black shell or use another white
empty owl
Like this?
zenith tundra
yeah that should be better
empty owl
Ok thank you ^^
zenith tundra
u want her 1st barrage to land as much as possible
also if u have triple 410 ap it should be better with monarch and qe setting fires
empty owl
I gave Monarch the triple 410
zenith tundra
ws should use it much better
empty owl
Ok
zenith tundra
u want monarch to use a fast gun like twin 381
elder crane
Double white shell 
I suppose it's desperation option
Not even a SG radar to spare instead?
empty owl
I do but she never really misses
zenith tundra
the reason is usually because she benefits from evasion too in pvp not only fp/hit
empty owl
Because of her 90 luck?
zenith tundra
evasion make ships (especially bb) much tankier
elder crane
She'll start missing vs actually good teams with actually good setups
Which tbf is pretty rare, isn't even that common in top ranks
But SG is the same average dmg as second white shell, roughly, with also 15 evasion
And 15 evasion on a BB like that is roughly 10% more eHP vs shelling
runic sorrel
karmic lake
elder crane
Yep, work towards +10 that radar, and eventually having a PR gun to spare for her aux
Maybe also work towards a second +10 radar on her
Personally, I currently prefer SG/White shell, but I know Zack on JP prefers SG/Rudder even, and recs at least 2SG
zenith tundra
with 457 pretty much u use hpfcr rudder because is the best defensive setup for trying to kill opponents as fast as possible. it works for offense too
karmic lake
empty owl
@zenith tundra i did have it it was on monarch
zenith tundra
that's actually very good
on monarch u should use twin 381 now so she can spam barrages as fast as possible
empty owl
Like this
elder crane
PR aux gun is most important on flagship btw
Flag has the most time actually spent shooting it
zenith tundra
in ws teams u can move backlines around tho, it's not static
elder crane
WS I don't think ever takes flag spot though?
Or very rarely
empty owl
Well I usually have Monarch in the middle because of her barrage
elder crane
That's probably default, yeah
zenith tundra
i mostly use ws mid in ws fdg amagi. the only team i switch for is usually namaryuu so i can snipe hiryuu
empty owl
Umu her sniper skill is fantastic
serene saddle
How noshiro pvp setup?
forest lake
Oxytorp to boiler
zenith tundra
are u using torp meme vg? if no just change oxy tom boiler
serene saddle
Vg is aurora and ibuki
zenith tundra
i would actually still change that oxy. ibuki aurora should do enough to opponent vg and having noshiro as a potential staller if things go wrong is not a bad choice
elder crane
I also do not rec rudder on Noshiro
eHP-wise, toolkit is about as effective in PvP, slightly more effective if vs torpmemes
I'd rather use a second boiler, a Fire Extinguisher, or pearl in that slot
jagged steppe
is it just me or i feels like everytime enemy have aurora my fleet taking 100 million dmg
ripe latch
elder crane
Yeah, Aurora really cuts into CLs and especially DDs
empty owl
It's why I have her on my team for now
empty owl
@jagged steppe who do you have for your vanguard?
blazing scroll
Besides 100eva is enough for your vg
jagged steppe
whole terrace
Same here eri my vg is so much weaker against aurora
shell heron
that vg looks like avrora food to me. you're hoping to survive long enough that helena can proc
jagged steppe
ripe latch
replace enty to centaur? 
ripe latch
ripe latch
jagged steppe
some legend say she exists in aviation construction pool
zenith tundra
is avrora having issues again?
shell heron
Avrora never felt fixed. better but still issues
shell heron
a lot more disconnect messages and longer load times
this is getting ridiculous. getting locked into loading loop on pve runs
zenith tundra
hopefully they will fix stuff next maint. jp one is supposed to be 9hr
elder crane
Well, 11 matches dropped now this season 
plus exploit happening
first time I'm dropping gensui since aroundthis time last year I suppose
zenith tundra
i have a small hope to get top 10 if i rush
vague token
i dont think i can catch top 10 with major luck xD
zenith tundra
i'm 5 pts behind current r10. dunno how many people aren't using all their attempts tho
sterile bluff
wow u guys r so high XD
shell heron
the current top 10 don't move early so we're still at least 30 behind
static gull
is that long maintenance today?
ionic magnet
upper sparrow
let see if i can reach aotn with my missing 10 attempts
shell heron
it's already hard for me with only 5 missed
zenith tundra
best feature
- Added Retire All function.
You will be able to tap the "Retire All" button at the bottom-right of the Retire screen. A ship is selected for retire (not automatically retired) if she meets all following criteria (excluding bulins): - Level 1
- Not locked
- One copy of the ship is locked and in dock
- Rarity is N, R, SR (priority being R > SR > N)
- Not part of any fleet
- Not a secretary or in Classroom, Skill Training Room, and Dorm.
※ Ships that have been automatically selected and manually removed will be selected again by Retire All if there are no ships that meet the above criteria.
no longer wasting 2min retiring all the common drops
vague token
karmic forum
shy hazel
new features
shell heron
shy hazel
scuffed pvp on both servers
connection problems everywhere
still no fixes
competent devs
shell heron
I love Avrora having server issues
zenith tundra
vague token
forest lake
From earlier 
forest lake
+2 
zenith tundra
i'll add this vg to tl. having ibuki noshiro deal a combined dmg of 40k is nuts
upper sparrow
zenith tundra
it was a +4 
static gull
grand luck
hybrid ember
what is nagamaryuu backline?
static gull
nightmare for average shikikan
zenith tundra
most likely mean nagato amagi hiryuu
in this channel is called namaryuu but i can see the similarities
upper sparrow
is that azuma dev20? @zenith tundra
zenith tundra
not yet 19.5
upper sparrow
uh how much bps u need to reach dr dev20 again?
zenith tundra
19 to 20 is 30 bps
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Research#Strengthening fi u are asking for total number
upper sparrow
lol akashi and ryuujou ticket for rollback compensation 
inner zenith
why not replace hiryu with WS @zenith tundra
lapis bolt
@forest lake 
inner zenith
until u get fdg
forest lake
@lapis bolt 
lapis bolt
I am ay 1743 
@forest lake
forest lake
lapis bolt
10/10
zenith tundra
i don't see it as much difference tbh. namaryuu can work against anything and tbh i'm kind of tired of ws
forest lake
ripe latch
@zenith tundra juneau kita noshiro usable ? 
zenith tundra
kita has no place in pvp tbh
zenith tundra
like nothing she does is relevant for pvp in any way
there are better torp dd around that don't have 0 luck and do more torp dmg
ripe latch
before fix sendai any ykkz can die after 3-4 torps
smoky elk
the longer range guns from the Russians hurts yuki more somehow
zenith tundra
twin 130 has high light armor dps
shell heron
I forgot to take note on DTS's score yesterday
gonna assume he moved
+4
prob no movement
zenith tundra
when i got him in list i checked and it was +3 and then later when i attacked i got a +4 instead
i'm pretty sure he moved this reset
zenith tundra
better then 9 hours where u skip 1 reset all together
midnight heron
inb4 extended to 20hrs
zenith tundra
i might actually just go to 0/10 in en too
don't want to miss anymore attempts this season
vague token
ive been going to 0 to try and catch rank 1 xD
zenith tundra
i've been going down to 2-3 attempts since past a certain point almost no chances of free bonuses anyway
no vf-17 in en rip
shell heron
I've been doing down to 0/10 because no reason to sandbag for bonuses
zenith tundra
if u go to high u end up with bad list. like everyone under u
shell heron
depends on when I move. Its not bad if I wait a few hours
I'm not that far ahead of people
upbeat hollow
i really should figure out a better way to deal with warkai tho
outside of hiryuu and enty (sometimes)
elder crane
I'll just go to 0/10 since that still doesn't put me in top 100 anyways
finite valve
enty atm is like free win for anyone with a good fleet
but yes ws counter enty pretty hard
or any CV in general
untold wharf
how is chinawall in pvp
elder crane
evasion mechanics screw over the chinawall hard
player unit hit stat is much higher than enemy unit hit, and obviously luck too, so chinawall can't hit eva cap, which is what makes it so tanky in PvE
in PvP though their low base HP and the failure of their evasion means they're not particularly tanky, have no damage, and 0 utility
plus if enemy runs Aurora or Sirius, they really fold
vague token
i liked the part after aurora was released but we were still level 100 cap so there were still a bunch of eldridge/enty in the ranks
i just gunned eldridge down before 20s with minne/aurora
lapis bolt
Why
upper sparrow
lapis bolt
What kind of massive brain move is this
shell heron
too big brain for us to understand
smoky elk
god (pls) save the queen 
upbeat hollow
oh what i meant @sterile bluff is that sometimes enty doesnt get 1 shot then lucky E memes
jagged steppe
tanky helena retrofit when
jagged steppe
or 100% chance
zenith tundra
even if she gets retro her debuff skill won't be touched
merry shoal
is exp given based on opposing ship levels or fleet power of opposing fleet?
zenith tundra
ships levels
merry shoal
thanks
jagged steppe
i think i'll rush everytime big patch update from now on til I have 5/10
shell heron
would you prefer Helena get 100% proc rate or 100% dmg increase 
jagged steppe
100% proc rate
zenith tundra
neither
shell heron
proc rate sounds consistent, but think of the fun of 100% increased damage
never gonna happen
sterile bluff
@upbeat hollow but theoretically speaking if both shells hit, can warkai 1 hit enty assuming bis max lv
sterile bluff
nooooooooooo!!!
crap
wait
she can still hit her shells tho
cuz she targets wherever her barrage hits
😮
:bigthink:
upbeat hollow
are you asking or stating
cuz the "can" confused me and i thought you were asking lol
also seems its time to level my own warkai
sterile bluff
im asking lol
(i don't have warkai sadly)
like ik she targets where her barrage hits
upbeat hollow
oh
sterile bluff
so i assume that's enough to finish her off?
upbeat hollow
in most cases so far, she hasnt just straight up one shot me but i think ive been 1 shot before like 2 times or so
in most cases enty actually dies from someone else
unless a stray torp hit her at the start
then warkai can finish her off
sterile bluff
so if u don't get 1 shot, does enty still die due to warkai's shells later on?
upbeat hollow
no its usually something else thatll kill her
sterile bluff
basically what im asking is is warkai alone enough to deal with enty or do i need someone else
upbeat hollow
it just leaves her super low even with the additional shells
thats what im telling you
in most cases warkai wont straight up 1 shot her from my experience
sterile bluff
rip
upbeat hollow
but your other bbs will literally just finish it
and if its hms backline 
widepeeposad
sterile bluff
can u finish her before a launch?
upbeat hollow
yup
upbeat hollow
i guess you can put the item that makes enty launch faster if you rly wanted
zenith tundra
once 457 is a thing enty is just gone after 17s since she cannot airstrike before ws mg
sterile bluff
my masterplan is forming
upbeat hollow
but i dont think people do that
i only drop in enty now if i wanna try my luck on the lotto wheel so to speak
but ive been using triple bb instead
upbeat hollow
upbeat hollow
for the most part i dont worry too much about cvs
prob gonna level her up tomorrow during the event
sterile bluff
bro rn all it takes is 1 lucky E and my entire vg is fkin gone
noiiiiice
me is jealous XD
upbeat hollow
whats your vanguard?
sterile bluff
typical torp meme
upbeat hollow
ahh
sterile bluff
yuki aya and belfast to be specific
upbeat hollow
i dont use DDs but my fleet isnt really meta
zenith tundra
use speed on ur vg and most of an airstrike will just miss
upbeat hollow
or rather, not meta at all
zenith tundra
and torp memes are memes for a reason
sterile bluff
speed? which aux is best for that?
upbeat hollow
beaver badge/boiler
sterile bluff
i mean tbf yuki and belfast r pretty tanky
zenith tundra
boiler
sterile bluff
ok
sterile bluff
alright
elder crane
you want vanguard speed to ideally be 3 DD + Beaver Badge speed
so 1 boiler per CL used
and don't forget to use your badge
that'll let you potentially straight-up dodge bombs by zipping out of their AoE
sterile bluff
if only i could control their movement 😦
elder crane
Anyways, the higher level your ships are, the less of an issue CV strikes and burst in general will be
Your enemy gets higher Avi for more damage, and hit to offset increased evasion
In general, you get higher PvP HP multiplier and higher HP stat
Vs aviation damage you also get higher AA for AA damage reduction
elder crane
btw this is why CVs tend to have a lot better damage output on lower worlds than higher ones
Increased offensive stat (Avi, FP, Torp) is offset by increased HP
Increased hit stat is offset by increased evasion
But CVs have nothing to offset the increased aviation damage reduction from increased AA, while BBs don't have to care about any such thing
elder crane
this also fits into the increased PvP HP multiplier with higher level, which makes burst damage in general worse
So Foxes get double screwed
which is why they suddenly got a lot worse with each level uncap, even ignoring powercreep from newer ships
sterile bluff
powercreep?
elder crane
Basically particularly powerful newer ships that displace them
sterile bluff
oh ik what it means
it's just
u think intrepid will change everything u just said?
gets a skill that ignores AA lmao
upbeat hollow
we dunno their skills or stats yet do we?
elder crane
Intrepid will need to have some really good PvP skill or be broken af to be good enough to change meta
sterile bluff
cuz she's epic waifu
elder crane
PvE and PvP are just really different, and if you don't make something that is PvP-specific somehow, Intrepid will be super OP in PvE
sterile bluff
imagine if she gets lucky E, final counter and early strike LMAO
elder crane
Well, at least you can count on her to have the Essex statline
sterile bluff
so u r saying essex isn't good for pvp herself?
zenith tundra
essex had her meta (not in en) against nakaga because of the plane dmg reduction
smoky elk
Essex could make far into pvp up to #300, then she's out
zenith tundra
en pretty much skipped nakaga and went straight to namaryuu because early amagi
sterile bluff
is namaryuu definitely the best tho?
i dont see everyone using namaryuu in the top placements
for def fleet
zenith tundra
with azuma namaryuu can still beat anything tbh
sterile bluff
so namaryuu is still the best
zenith tundra
with fdg and 457 there are some better comps but not enough for namaryuu to not be at least t0.5
sterile bluff
namaryuu vs namaspite?
ionic magnet
only reason namaryuu is considered as best is cos its the only comp that is relevant in defense
as for offense, theres a handful of comps that can beat pretty much everything
sterile bluff
rly? and wut r they
ionic magnet
er check pins
zenith tundra
namagi fdg. amagi ws fdg. fdg amagi x. fdg ws x and so on
ionic magnet
yes theres no fdg in the pinned tl yet
zenith tundra
hms comps
sterile bluff
the tierlist in the pin puts namaryuu as first so
zenith tundra
so few people have at least dev 25 in en
i don't see a reason to include her when she needs dev 30 to be good
ionic magnet
sterile bluff
sooo hms comps r the best for offense?
ionic magnet
theres no best
sterile bluff
D:
zenith tundra
they are viable non fdg team
sterile bluff
one of the best then
ionic magnet
yes
sterile bluff
okie
smoky elk
dont be slave to tl in term of offense
sterile bluff
so i just need good hms ships to beat other peeps lul
ionic magnet
yea idk what happened to amagi rerun 
zenith tundra
wfc can beat some of the strongest defenses quite consistently
sterile bluff
~~idk what happened to essex event ~~
ionic magnet
why essex
sterile bluff
hold on just lemme look up which team is wfc first
ionic magnet
sterile bluff
essex cuz i want her UwU
zenith tundra
ws formi centaur
ionic magnet
ionic magnet
zenith tundra
pvp meta is usually event locked quite badly
sterile bluff
rip me
ionic magnet
what do you have rn? we can give some advice if you want
sterile bluff
ill just sit back and absorb knowledge then
upbeat hollow
you can still play some comps with like hood
sterile bluff
nah the ships i have now arent good for pvp, im just learning so i can make a good fleet when i have good ships later
upbeat hollow
you dont rly run into meta comps until higher ranks anyway
zenith tundra
if u consider that hiryuu and centaur are the strongest non event ships u can use is not a good sign
sterile bluff
centaur... does she exist?
sterile bluff
rly?
zenith tundra
special pool
ionic magnet
just need to reset a few times
upbeat hollow
i might reset a couple times vs meta teams
sterile bluff
she exists in special pool? wow! my hundreds of cubes say otherwise
sterile bluff
good old hms
zenith tundra
i daily build half year in jp for spee and no luck yet so i get it
sterile bluff
ill just wait for wishing well then pull her
upbeat hollow
thats what i did
smoky elk
nostalgic comp 
sterile bluff
she scares me
when i see enty's face i just shit myself
i have nightmares of her
jagged steppe
how proper is you mean
sterile bluff
im only a zoomer in pvp
ionic magnet
50 
forest lake
zenith tundra
50 is a lot to even think about. 30min+ of tries sounds too much
sterile bluff
jokes on u no matter how many times i reset i still can't win 
zenith tundra
intrepid skills... like half pvp half whatever and still not gonna be good since ws ap.... very interesting
zenith tundra
she looks really weird
armor break on bb 0 fire dmg and dmg reduction
like i would rather have an actual good pve cv
then half baked pvp skills with still pretty much no chances
hot creek
is it time to rush to 0/10
jagged steppe
^
smoky elk
armor break just means +5-10% dt?
zenith tundra
i'm at 3/10
jagged steppe
do u want to get ddos -4 ticket
zenith tundra
can wait a bit
jagged steppe
it 10 hour main
if they fuck shit up
it1 hour main
chance to kaput is very high
zenith tundra
- BB-type AP shells that hit their target have 20% chance to inflict an effect known as "Armor Break" on heavy armor. Enemies under this effect will take 8% more damage from shelling.
jagged steppe
^
zenith tundra
8% dmg increase from shelling
smoky elk
not great, not terrible
zenith tundra
her skills are really more meant for pvp tbh
but is like why when ws just murders medium with 457
jagged steppe
heavy cruiser
hit super slow
if its cl
its a different story
give 3s duration buff
on ca that atk slow like turtle
the fuck
does main gun include side gun?
the 2nd slot
jagged steppe
k
zenith tundra
doesn't include aux gun
jagged steppe
if the barrage damage is decent,then maybe a good boat
zenith tundra
on bosses she cannot tank with that
zenith tundra
we need to see it to know if it's good or not
jagged steppe
do I need to play like
x3 cv
and first air strike
removing all their front row
3cv and helena
and enterprise as flag ship
and let other 2 die
maybe bunkerhill?
zenith tundra
i wouldn't use that in pvp seems pretty meh
it's literally just a 10% dr to cv/l
since vg dmg....
yukikaze has 8% and heal and is also tanky
jagged steppe
maybe
at 20s
air strike clear all their front row
and their bb got amor break
and all vg just shotting their bb
zenith tundra
one thing i'm a bit confuse about is intrepid 3rd skill the 2nd part about burning... is it only under the hp threshold or any time...
jagged steppe
reduce burn damage taken to 0
everyting proc once reaching 20% hp
cuz it had ,
zenith tundra
is it only under 20% or at any hp
jagged steppe
when reachng 20% hp
zenith tundra
well rip
jagged steppe
getting 2 buff
one reduce damage one reduce burn dmg
25% dmg reduction on mid armor cant tank warspite
zenith tundra
she might be able to tank a bit ws with vh and rudder
but i don't think is worth it
jagged steppe
this game need union cv flag ship with heavy armor and tanky af that buff whole fleet fire power and avi is it too much to ask?
zenith tundra
the most depressing thing is that outside of barrage and avi boost everything else is like why in pve....
it's not like u need a cv tank in pve
jagged steppe
uck
i was
CHATTING
I DIDN'T
SEND
MY
FUJCKING
10
HOUR
I WAS CHATTING HERE
AND DIDN'T LOOK AT THE TIME
I WAS GON NA SEND 10 HOUR 4500COIN
im done
zenith tundra
rank 13. some people might not have rushed but not bad considering 5 attempts behind and abusers
zenith tundra
go to bed then so u can wake up before 3rd reset
stable dawn
The wait begins
jagged steppe
nah
its ok
just 1 ticket
its not like this season worth waking up to play anyway
zenith tundra
agreed but i still want top 10 bonus merit
upper sparrow
this season is scuffed anyway
stable dawn
upper sparrow
nope
upper sparrow
just wait for ashen rerun 
jagged steppe
motherfk
zenith tundra
casablanca new ranger btw
ionic magnet
soooooo
coral wren
game decided to be a bitch and won't let me win against a god damn HMS fleet before maintenance
ionic magnet
reno no lasers
hot creek
if maint gets extended past recharge again, ill be tied for #1 
ionic magnet
🚮
coral wren
Multiple crit and evasion made HMS backline almost invisible
upper sparrow
tbh im so fking glad if maint get extended, bcs im probably still asleep when mt end 
jagged steppe
is the cn server up already?
hot creek
Hiro still losing to HMS fleets in 2020
zenith tundra
bremerton seems like the best of the bunch. reno might do something but not sure if much outside of aa
ionic magnet
yes retire your fleet already hiro
coral wren
I hate it
ionic magnet
coral wren
No u
zenith tundra
dunno about cn but jp is not up
coral wren
At least it wasn't a mid hiryuu fleet
I would've uninstalled if I got beaten by this
upper sparrow
well nah i just met qe kgv monarch, dido-sirius-bel maxed comp and it actually hard to beat like yo wtf
it feel namaryuu is easier to beat
the fuck man
ionic magnet
haloist
upper sparrow
dido comp actually reduce centy-formi dmg so hard, and kgv sniping my vanguard easily 
coral wren
well nah i just met qe kgv monarch, dido-sirius-bel maxed comp and it actually hard to beat like yo wtf
@upper sparrow
It's probably one of those assholes that puts too many evasion items on their backline
The WS earlier keeps dodging barrages
ionic magnet
you guys are memeing right
coral wren
Not everyone is a meta slave bro
let's just go full torps
Been hating HMS since last year
ionic magnet
coral wren
I still remember that 30 reset from Formi Cent WS
upper sparrow
dido comp probably can beaten easily by namaryuu or triple bb wskai-doy-monarch, but well they can rekt any warkai with 2 cv so easily
zenith tundra
meta fleets are meta for a reason and that is to avoid too many resets
coral wren
Meta meme fleet
zenith tundra
using enty in this day and age...
coral wren
I have hiryuu at 120 but I prefer enty
waifu>meta
also love seeing enty shit on hiryuu on 1v1
zenith tundra
u can use whatever but doesn't mean is a good indicator for 30 resets against x comp
coral wren
fuck the meta but what if your waifu is meta 
upper sparrow
tbh my enty is like can always dodge first ws barrage like in 7 out 10 battle, idk if im lucky or what
coral wren
30 reset is more AL gameplay
It's nothing compared to my 50 reset on a typical IJN comp before I raised my back to 120
ionic magnet
its fine zack
upper sparrow
coral wren
Honestly preparing for the anal devastation once dev 30 FDG and azuma comes
ijn slaves, rise up
How do you even kill that shit with our current stuff
jagged steppe
helena and enty
zenith tundra
hms defense in jp is actually good thx to 457 ws. if u don't have a tank u can just lose to it
coral wren
That bitch has like 50k hp
upper sparrow
is helena will be relevant when maxed fdg come out 
coral wren
It's like trying to kill a EX mode boss
jagged steppe
using x blue armor
zenith tundra
if she survives for 20s after vg is dead sure
ionic magnet
just dont lose easy
coral wren
Is anyone here even close to dev 30 for azuma or fdg
ionic magnet
no not even d25
coral wren
that's good
upper sparrow
getting dev more than 20 is already luccsacc i guess
coral wren
he must be a luckCHAD @jagged steppe
jagged steppe
just a
zenith tundra
u should've ss that
upper sparrow
are you sure about that @jagged steppe
jagged steppe
yes
ionic magnet
havent seen one
coral wren
I thought you can't buy upgrades
upper sparrow
someone must already post it on trophy room lol
jagged steppe
is it that hard to get dev30?
hot creek
I could reach a dev 25 azuma rn if i spent my general prints on her.
coral wren
But seriously if they start popping up, I'm gonna be screwed
not sure if torp meme can still work against them
zenith tundra
most people aren't even close
hot creek
and famine is ahead of me by like 30-60 prints
jagged steppe
if you spend alot of cube you gonna get fast right?
coral wren
how far behind is EN from JP?
hot creek
yeah, gotta 🔥 your cubes
jagged steppe
and I know my friend who play since beta having like 3k cube f2p player
so if you play since beta its not that hard right?
coral wren
my azuma is just dev 10
zenith tundra
if u get lucky yes
coral wren
upper sparrow
im sure en ppl here barely reach dev25 even the most whaler in trophy-room, so i think u are seeing the wrong star there
jagged steppe
im sure its full star
coral wren
I barely get those rare cards
ionic magnet
3 months d30
jagged steppe
i'll ss if I meet again
coral wren
tbh I get more rainbow BB gun card than azuma or fdg cards
upper sparrow
dev 30 need 515 bps right? so u need amount of uhhh, more than 10 azuma bps per day, how is that possible rofl
coral wren
Be a luckCHAD
ionic magnet
thing is its not possible
zenith tundra
24 hours in a day if u manage to do like 12 1hr cubes might be possible
hot creek
i doubt you actually saw 6 star azuma
upper sparrow
except u get rainbow research everyday
jagged steppe
im sure I see
coral wren
But those just gives 2-3 cards after
coral wren
Did you even win?
upper sparrow
2 bps for 30minute reseach is already good kek, better than nothing
zenith tundra
i'm very doubtful it was max stars but someone might actually have lucksac that badly
upper sparrow
im not believe you so sorry mate, it just unbelievable no matter what, and someone must be post it in this server unless he is a hacker
zenith tundra
researches are server side. don't even think u can hack them
upper sparrow
yeah thats why it unbelievable 
coral wren
The dude I'm stuck with is running QE, Hood WS , Sandy, Azuma 4 star and juneau. They suck at killing my vg and basically making the fight longer which is bad for my backline
why is azuma annoying
zenith tundra
i didn't do anything wrong i don't see why anything would happen outside of off-topic warning
zenith tundra
the whole discord is like this rn so nobody should care
ionic magnet
no hiro your fleet is just
jagged steppe
ionic magnet
upper sparrow
what is your fleet @coral wren, im curious how you get stalled by hood comp
zenith tundra
leave people struggle. waifu meta is reset meta
coral wren
im gonna film your fleet being destroyed once I get you on pvp
gonna add filters and effects
zenith tundra
u are not supposed to lose while attacking unless underleveled fleet
coral wren
After 10 hours
jagged steppe
AAHHAA
coral wren
u are not supposed to lose while attacking unless underleveled fleet
@zenith tundra not everyone runs the same fleet tho
or gear for that matter
coral wren
If I could stick a oxytorp on my backline, I would
Watch me destroy these peeps on film
cerulean estuary
try putting some fortune mod
the " fake " yukikaze
zenith tundra
u are doing that to yourself tbh. is like trying to beat w13 with no AA
ionic magnet
smoky elk
coral wren
Sandycrutch
jagged steppe
in china
this type of people called"artist"
they are born to be different
in english
coral wren
the thrill of being stuck for 40 mins on a single fight makes the game worth it
jagged steppe
itscalled edgelord
zenith tundra
more like masochist?
coral wren
you have to swap ships to figure out how to beat them
jagged steppe
no
its like
if you use meta and win
these kind of people
gonna think like
its normal
they need to accomplish
something
in their life
thats how they enjoy playing game
just like me
ionic magnet
swapping ships to win 
coral wren
Pvp on AL is a joke so it doesn't make any difference rlly
jagged steppe
if I do want to have easy win
I would've use jun
but
I wanna beat people with my fire powar and proc
coral wren
who cares what people use or if they get stuck
zenith tundra
i had that idea back in wasde meta where i would change from hms to wasd to hakaga based on opponent. i got bored in 1 week of it
coral wren
if it's fun then theres nothing wrong with it
jagged steppe
^
jagged steppe
I like the idea of filimg and tea bagging
coral wren
Admiral of navy rank is enough
zenith tundra
20 resets is not even rushing
coral wren
@zenith tundra it rarely happens now
And when it does, It makes the game fun
u have to use what little IQ you have left
I mean I have room temperature IQ
Still running 2 oxytorps on everything
zenith tundra
i guess i'm just to bored of al to think that wasting more then 1min on an attempt is actually fun
coral wren
maybe you have other stuff to do
zenith tundra
literally nothing else to do
coral wren
I got a lot of time so 20 reset is nothing
jagged steppe
me too
coral wren
it's boring when you can just stomp on everything
jagged steppe
when my fleet lv 115
I was 1 hour resetting to beat nagato amagi hiryu
*waste
and all my gear was +6
zenith tundra
i started early so when i was a noob almost everyone was a noob too
smoky elk
ly?
coral wren
I'm working on the other pr torp
I started in the middle of fallen wing event
And got none of the event ships
jagged steppe
I dont understand the company
coral wren
jagged steppe
I want to build 20s carrier fleet
and I was hyped cuz they use baltimore on the front banner
then they dont let me pull
zenith tundra
how tf did u still have +6 gear like half year later
coral wren
Even my sub is equipped with 10+ oxy
zenith tundra
from fw to isss when namaryuu apeared it's a lot of time
jagged steppe
first time
in my life
when my commander
lv 60
I dont even know wtf is daily raid til lv 60
I dont have part
coral wren
I only got to pvp after getting amagi
coral wren
most of my time were spent on playing with the dorm or fking around in akaga mines
jagged steppe
^
coral wren
I mostly ignored pvp for 2 months
jagged steppe
im in 3-4 gulag for 2 week
smoky elk
i ignored pvp for 1 year
coral wren
Then I realized I need them for Eldridge
zenith tundra
that doesn't explain how u had still +6 gear by nagato event
coral wren
So I worked for it
zenith tundra
no hiro
jagged steppe
not me
coral wren
Those black and white shells
Actually all of my BB are equipped with just those
No defensive item whatsoever
zenith tundra
jagged steppe
zenith tundra
this is what i mean
coral wren
I don't click virus links
jagged steppe
im getting 115 by just farming with +6 equip