pvp

[hot creek]

Or Saj, the way its pronouced

[sharp wing]

anything involving /dʒ/ is fine

[hot creek]

I dunno know what that means. Guess we'll just continue calling you Sagg Tits.

[shy hazel]

saggytits

[sharp wing]

And I'll continue assume ya'll degens.

[hot creek]

No need to assume. That's already a given.

[keen sparrow]

[shell heron]

I think if i wasn't working on getting RL gains, I could have gotten another +1

Stupid gym and its awful cell signal

[sharp wing]

Skip gym

[vague token]

oh i think i just lost a few more matches

oh well

xD

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

already lost 4 to sleep so what is another 3

[sharp wing]

[shell heron]

I refuse. My body must be in shape to outsandbag you fools

[past egret]

A man who’s priorities are straight

until random maintenance screws his sand bagging up

[sharp wing]

Until he meets Eldie

[empty grove]

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

its not like muscles can beat sleep

i dont see any correlation between gym and sandbagging

[ionic magnet]

not gym

its his cell signal

cant wait for this polaris event to end

[frail orbit]

Same holo

At least got all the main idols lel

[sharp wing]

What about side idols?

[frail orbit]

Only Jav skin

[sharp wing]

trash dun deserve skins

[frail orbit]

Ey I dont even have extra gems atm

Only 2.1k ish

And that for waiting on Mommy skin

[sharp wing]

Oath skin

[frail orbit]

Still needs gem for the oath

But

[sharp wing]

Nt having oathed mommy?

[frail orbit]

Already oathed her tho

[sharp wing]

[frail orbit]

So

Who cares

Need more p2w skin lah

[sharp wing]

You almost disgraced yrself

[frail orbit]

I meant. Being a mommy and all.

Nice proportion, nice personality

[sharp wing]

wholesome

[frail orbit]

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

A bit too selfless

Not a bad thing

[ionic magnet]

save that for prison skins

[sharp wing]

https://discordapp.com/channels/456397991847395339/516951413411020819/672488982994485271

[frail orbit]

Alexa this is too sad
Pls play Growing by K.Will

Also if prison skin
Just buy Skadi skin perhaps

[sharp wing]

[frail orbit]

Just me being a sucker for mommy type

Even FDG skin too

On last New Year

[sharp wing]

wut skadi skin

[frail orbit]

@sharp wing rossiya skin

Bkoz, AL skadi

[sharp wing]

But that's gangut skin

[frail orbit]

Nein nein nein

This one

[sharp wing]

[frail orbit]

Also Rossiya as Skadi

[sharp wing]

skadi no mommy

and gib skadi

[frail orbit]

AL counterpart looks like a mommy tho

[sharp wing]

That skin ruins impression tho

[smoky elk]

missed Skadi

[sharp wing]

Skadi already in perma pull in new banner

[smoky elk]

has been no luck so far

[sharp wing]

Didn't expect to pull her anyway without 💵 so whatever

Disgusting

[ionic magnet]

lol that skadi

shes gonna be op i can feel it

but in pve

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

we need a ship with a crazy shooting animation

like skadi's attack animation

xD

[winged nymph]

[shy hazel]

i cant relate to them offtopics

i only play pvp al

[hot creek]

same. burn these ak/fgo infidels

[blazing scroll]

[forest lake]

Oh no

[past egret]

Is that a mod in #pvp

Truly a rare sight

[sharp wing]

What the actual hell with those skins...
I already see someone put that def of gulag lolies for execution by firing

[shell heron]

It's telling us something. That we're degens and should be locked up

[sharp wing]

[jagged steppe]

in the gas chamber

[coral wren]

do we have the stats for the vodka ships yet

[sharp wing]

We need cn maint

[coral wren]

i see

The idol banner hates me

I'm just waiting to see if the Russian ships are worth it.

[sharp wing]

Waifus always worth it

[coral wren]

Not for my dock space no

[sharp wing]

shitkican

[coral wren]

I already scrapped a few KMS

scrapping liepzig so I can have space for bush

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

if the next event has an exclusive chat banner, I'm gonna kms

[sharp wing]

Just buy some dock

[coral wren]

I'm more worried about cubes rn

Like I said, the idol banner hates me. Hipper won't show up

Akagi keeps appearing for some reason

[sharp wing]

elites always succ

Akagi haunts me too

[coral wren]

I just wanna collect the idolshit

but yeah, elites are a pain in the ass to get.

ah fk it I'm gonna burn my last cubes and see if I can get hipper now

aight gonna be a full-time Rhodes island doctor now since hipper won't show up on my dock.

[sharp wing]

You can be real doctah only if u pull Ch'en

[coral wren]

dude

I think yostar heard me

burned last 6 cubes and got her

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

eh. I burned all my orundum on ejya banner.

[sharp wing]

I started with exu eyja acc

[coral wren]

I started with Angelina

also pvp is dead. people barely rush now

they're making my sandrush harder than it used to be

[sharp wing]

Second ded season

[coral wren]

I wonder why

[shell heron]

Heavy event grinding

[sharp wing]

We have only 5 ppl above 70k event

[blazing scroll]

Why would you grind the event

[coral wren]

I only grind for the bps

maybe I'll grab some dorm furniture when I'm done

[sharp wing]

I only have few gen bps left, bought all other stuff I wanted already (dr, furn, oil, coins, gold catboxes)

Gonna grind 40k for reward dr bps anyway

[shell heron]

might as well go for the 60k.

[sharp wing]

[shell heron]

it's 3 more DR prints compared to the usual dupe ship

[sharp wing]

20k more in 2 days

[shell heron]

sure why not, just never stop farming

[sharp wing]

Just forget how to even breath

at least sp5 is easy 1:1 aff farm

tho exp shit

[vague token]

id rather save my oil just in case we get gear or w/e in vodka event

i wish they would give us a boiler with music every time there's an event with new music

[high bay]

against nakaga comps

is it better to snipe kaga or akagi first?

[vague token]

durability wise they're basically the same

kaga has stronger torp bombers i think

akagi is just even spread

[high bay]

it does seem like torp bombers are a lot more threatening

[vague token]

yeah kaga just shifts efficiency from fighter/dive to torp

so if you feel like torp bombers are hurting too much

snipe her

otherwise it doesnt really matter

as soon as one goes their damage drops

[sharp wing]

Slot eff doesn't affect crash damage too

[forest lake]

[sharp wing]

lol my whole list pushed

[shell heron]

mines didn't move

[sharp wing]

Long live the Queen

[shy hazel]

kiro go apply again

[sharp wing]

For meme contest?

I don't think Kiro wants to spend time of his life for mod unpaid job

[shy hazel]

pretty sure they get paid by gems

tho the amount is joke

like 3k

p month

[sharp wing]

well, join for 1 month and quit

idk, maybe some not working students can do that as hobby lmao

or neets

[vague token]

ill pass xD

[sharp inlet]

for the airstrikes, do they make 2 separate attacks, 1 on vg and 1 on backline?

[sharp wing]

bombs hit vg and plains crash on main

when vg dies, bombs hit main

[elder crane]

Bombs and aimed torps aim at VG first if alive

Crash damage always applied to main, randomly distributed

There's two technicalities on the first one

1. if vanguard is pushed up to main fleet due to other vanguard dead, aimed torps can't aim at them, and will go for main fleet instead

2. if vanguard somehow is pushed past main fleet due to movement pattern, bombs too will fail to aim at them

[karmic forum]

2. actually happens more often than you think

[sharp wing]

more often it's just nanoda baits bombs tho

[karmic forum]

Although usually you just collide into main fleet

[elder crane]

Also a 3rd
3) if offense fleet vanguard manages to move behind own main fleet, planes will aim at main fleet instead

[sharp wing]

they just fall in water in front enemy main

[sharp inlet]

i see, good to know, also roughly how much higher ranked does your opponent have to be to get +1 rank score? 1000 ranks?

[elder crane]

Read pins

It's points, not rank

[sharp wing]

seasonal score matters, not rank

[karmic forum]

You'll get a really good sense of +11 if you've been sandbagging enough

[sharp wing]

and that depends on server and on season

how much ranks difference will be same score difference

Just need to play couple seasons to get used to it

[shell heron]

yes, nice +0

wait

+1

[sharp wing]

That was a dream most likely

Found Hyuuga once in a full moon

[keen sparrow]

+1 is myth now for me

[hot creek]

seems like Im down a charge

either my super bad starting/mid season is to blame or i might have forgotten a match as ive been sleeping in lately and have been doing my matches half asleep

[shy hazel]

PhoenixF

F

[frail orbit]

[forest lake]

[graceful sky]

Should i get Pearl's tears first or Ayanami first?

[hot creek]

Go for the pearl, unless you really like Aya.

[midnight heron]

great another day another cheater

fk off ps

motherfucking game thinks players are idiots or smth?

3 salvos on nagato -> no burn

fuck you

50% burn chance my fucking ass

[forest lake]

[coral wren]

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

[smoky elk]

[ripe latch]

[golden fable]

Reminder to stay on-topic to PvP.

[past egret]

Any data mines of the new skills for Russian ships yet?

[forest lake]

Til CN update

Data mines don't come this fast

[karmic forum]

Pretty good QoL changes

Sort by affection

Sort by skin

Shows missing retros

[sharp wing]

We are getting Gulag, lmao

Throw there those who lose in pvp

[safe meteor]

wonder if the Russians gonna have impact in pvp

[frail orbit]

[sharp wing]

Still disappointed in Surusad

[valid stirrup]

Monarch wants twin 381mm for pvp defense?

I assume she also wants sg radar and white shell. 40 prints away from dev 30 momarch, and i have 30 season 1 pr prints.

[empty owl]

Um for BB like queen Elizabeth is 85 evasion good?

[sharp wing]

no shell

mona can be use with triple 381

depends on set-up

if her target dies before she shoots second time, twin 381 will only give her little output

opting for slower more damage gun better in that case

[empty owl]

I have her set up like this

[sharp wing]

like if u do warkai+mona focus

[empty owl]

It helps skill proc

[sharp wing]

the problem is

as I already said

waste of damage potential

since after her opponent on lane dies barrage is useless

on the other hand till dev 30 she doesn't have last mg+1

[empty owl]

She is dev 30 and I'm at 86% for her last fate simulation

[sharp wing]

it works good on amagi, cause her barrage big shells are targetable

so she can hit whatever even after her lane dies

[empty owl]

I have her middle because Warspite kills whoever is farthest from her

[sharp wing]

she used as flank killer

mid is either kgv, qe(if not baiting enemy ws)

or ws for both flanks pressure

since mid ws targets top flank then bottom flank

then middle

[fair prism]

anyone got a clue if the russian ships will be good?

[shell heron]

not even CN has maint yet to data mine

[sharp wing]

I Hope at least one of med armor CLs will be not as bad, as Avrora

[vague token]

to be fair if avrora was good her skill would be op for ibuki

or azuma

[valid stirrup]

Monararch+formi+hiryuu or monarach+hiryuu+warkai for pvp defense

[sharp wing]

i use surusad, amagi, hiryuu, gotta make em lose time

[sour oasis]

Isn't it better if the ladder were closer to being super volatile? (Like early in the game's life)

[sharp wing]

There no ladder

[jagged steppe]

zzzz

[sharp wing]

enty duels 2k20 lmao

feels all the way back to 2k18

[jagged steppe]

how do I get essex and baltimore

[sharp wing]

u don't

baltimore wait ashen simulacrum rerun

essex either next anniv

or we get event w/ her sisters before

[jagged steppe]

daily struggle

[keen sparrow]

[shell heron]

@elder crane I was wondering why I almost lost to you, but you're using noshi/buki

[sharp wing]

kraken

Why Noshi

smh, wtf Noshi

Losing to bad doge

Noshi officially succ

[hot creek]

lost to some rando enty monarch team while playing gw2

[sharp wing]

[elder crane]

I see 10/10 and rank 1!
.... and he's 31 pts above me smh

[sharp wing]

🇫

Maybe he rusher

[vague token]

lul

[grim ember]

Is this an ok setup for pvp offensive?

[elder crane]

it has warkai and the other ships aren't shit, it's good enough
Yeah, that's a very good setup, just needs some levels, I wouldn't lead with ykkz though

[keen sparrow]

will tank all dmg to 1 n carry all vg

[sharp wing]

Well, since other vg too low lvl, it's fine

But otherwise u basically sentence her

[keen sparrow]

fight time to duel

[elder crane]

Main issue is the type of damage taken
ykkz can't deal with torpedos well since no bulge (Noshiro does help here)
Ykkz also is worse vs vanguards than main, since vanguards have higher hit stat and a lot of her survivability comes from loldodging the shots of the lower-hit-stat main fleet ships

[keen sparrow]

[smoky elk]

"puppy"

[keen sparrow]

[sharp wing]

"gulag" awaits

Find one odd

[keen sparrow]

[shell heron]

hmmm, exactly 35 up. I wonder if it will screw me with a +0

[sharp wing]

till last 1-2 days most likely not

[sour oasis]

I wish I could have -20/10. Gotta head to a boot camp the rest of the week and need an advance of tickets.

[hot creek]

First time I've lost a match where I feel like I don't care anymore

[shy hazel]

meaning u gon quit soon

good

pvp is bad

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

so is this game

[forest lake]

[jagged steppe]

easy game

losing 1 and missing 5 due sleep

how am I here

[midnight heron]

u hax

[shy hazel]

good for u

now u can lose more

[hot creek]

39 daily builds and not a single event ship

where has my luck gone

this event is cursed

[coral wren]

Hey guys, are the new russian ships good for pvp?

[hot creek]

Won't know until CN datamine.

But Im more than fairly confident that they won't be any good.

[whole terrace]

will Sanrui still be as strong in the upcoming meta when more people start using Azuma, FDG, Noshiro and Ibuki?

[hot creek]

No, and Sanrui was never that great to begin with anyways. Also, I highly doubt Noshiro/Ibuki will be replacing Juneau/Yukikaze. A possibly viable alternative if you're into torp memes? Perhaps. But nobody replaces Juneau/Yukikaze.

Also, a Azuma/Noshiro/Ibuki VG is definitely going to have speed issues.

[whole terrace]

Oh i didn't necessarily mean all in the same comp.

[hot creek]

Oh. Well in any case Sanrui won't have much of a place anymore since Azuma will be doing her role except way better.

Sadly, almost no VG ship will have any place in pvp except those three. Azuma/Juneau/Yukikaze. Prepare to say goodbye to any semblance of diversity we once had as it'll all be well gone soon.

[whole terrace]

Lol I'm not down for the Azuma grind though

At least not for now

[hot creek]

It's fine. It'll only be an issue if you tryhard in the upper ranks of pvp. As most won't be having a maxed Azuma anytime soon either.

[whole terrace]

What's the next best? Jun noshiro yuki?

[hot creek]

For your third VG option (after Juneau/Yuki), you can pretty much use whatever you like or whoever best fits your team. Noshiro/Sanrui/Neptune/Sirius/Sheffield come to mind.

There's others probably worth mentioning but those come at the top of my head.

Noshiro is a decent all around I hear. Dampens the damage taken from torps for your whole VG but personally I don't think it's very effective against actual torp teams who'll still nuke you regardless when their torps connect.

[whole terrace]

Ok cheers for the info

[empty owl]

Um is this an ideal set up for her?

[jagged steppe]

wise man once telling me that evasion on dd is garbage

and told me to put on fire supressor on yukekaze

[ripe latch]

sup + toolbox

[empty owl]

Sup?

[frail orbit]

Fire suppressor

Keep that kizuna boiler tho

[empty owl]

So like this?

[frail orbit]

If u want

But but if u wanna be safe then toolbox

Also, quint gold magtorp seriously? No rainbow ones?

[empty owl]

I have it on Belfast

Her torp is better

Ah I found an extra

[past egret]

Evasion on DD’s aren’t bad...

When you are using das supreme Eisen Blut zestroyers!

@jagged steppe

[empty owl]

What about these 2

Bell is more of a tank

[jagged steppe]

O_O

[empty owl]

What?

[past egret]

Switch the Pearl onto bell, replace the oxy torp

[ripe latch]

belfast damage

[past egret]

[empty owl]

What do I give Aurora?

[ripe latch]

toolbox or ankimo

[empty owl]

Ankimo?

[empty owl]

I don't have that ><

[empty owl]

How do you get it

[ripe latch]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Looking_Glass_of_Fact_and_Fiction

[empty owl]

Do you think the event will come back around?

[elder crane]

Btw it's just an engine but gold

So use engine

[empty owl]

Ok

[elder crane]

Also
Ykkz is better torper, mostly due to staying alive significantly longer usually
Yours is lower level though, so rainbow mags on Bel is probably correct for now

[empty owl]

Is something like this ok?

[elder crane]

Rudder is worse than toolbox for PvP on aurora iirc

[empty owl]

Ok

I just thought it would help

[elder crane]

You have the right idea

But her HP is low, and evasion is slightly less valuable on Vanguard in PvP than it is in PvE since player ships have significantly higher hit stat than PvE enemies

Minus EX and Challenge Mode ofc

[empty owl]

Ok thank you

[elder crane]

@hot creek stacking Noshiro and Bulge, I have literally facetanked nearly every torp from a Noshiro/Aurora/Ibuki team with Juneau and had her live
..... Yeah

[empty owl]

So something like this is ok Mr. nluerendar

[ripe latch]

[elder crane]

That AA gun on Ykkz.... no

Put on Bel or Aurora if you bring it at all

You only use it if you think the 15 FP is worth gimping your AA reload slightly, and ykkz does not want 15 FP

[empty owl]

I just thought the FP buff would help her a bit

Ok

[elder crane]

Rule of thumb for AA: (applies for PvE too)
In order of importance,

1. Stat effects
2. Pick the right combination of AA guns
3. Place higher damage guns on higher eAA ships
   And only finally
4. place slower AA guns on higher reload ships

This final effect is so small that it should be the last thing you consider, and only if everything else is roughly tied

[empty owl]

Um do you mind if we pm ?

[elder crane]

Sure

[empty owl]

I don't want to take up all the space

[elder crane]

It's fine as long as it's PvP relevant

This chat is ded usually anyways

[empty owl]

Oh ok

[past egret]

More so the topics about pvp are dead and this is just anarchy/off topic-2

[forest lake]

[past egret]

It’s also a better #gameplay-help

[empty owl]

This is my main fleet

[karmic forum]

There's nothing really to discuss in event offtime

[elder crane]

Oooh, double shell

Usually you prefer a +hit over the black shell at least

[past egret]

Pom Pom AA

[elder crane]

It's only a slight decrease in avg dmg for better consistentcy and a nice Survivability buff

For SG

[empty owl]

Warspite hasn't really had any problems yet even agents better opposition I'm very happy with her now

[elder crane]

You want the PR152 on your flagship, can't tell if that's Monarch or not

[empty owl]

Ok

[elder crane]

And yeah, pompom is not a good AA gun for PvP or on automode for PvE

[past egret]

HCFR on monarch is good

Only barrage ship there

[elder crane]

It's a very good AA gun for manual mode though if you don't mind the lower AW range

[past egret]

Unless you consider Warkai skill a barrage

[elder crane]

Idk about Aurora in a Warkai-HMS BB comp, but with QE, probably fine?

Haven't really tried it so can't say much more than that

[past egret]

Could substitute her for Neptune

[empty owl]

And what was it you wanted me to give Monarch

[past egret]

[empty owl]

I will when I get her ><

[elder crane]

Or like
Juneau or Noshiro tbh

[past egret]

Might be a factionist

Already 5/6 HMS ships

[elder crane]

Probably would take Sheff and maybe even Edin over Aurora still

Is probably okay asis though in that case

I was saying, the PR152 as aux is most important on flagship, whoever that is
If it's monarch, great, no changes needed

Also a consideration is to run a more damage-focused gun on Monarch instead, so that she contributes more once the ship opposite her is dead (and/or contributes more to killing Warspite focus target if that's not the ship opposite Monarch)

That would be
Twin 406 gold (PR2, twin 410 purple a potential substitute)
Triple 381
Or the usual mk6
Or just keep asis is fine too
To your preference
Also can consider running the triple 410 AP gun over 1-2 mk6 to better kill off the ship targeted by Warspite
Also to your preference

[empty owl]

Warspite does 6-7k damage with her skill and usually kills whatever is her farthest target

[ripe latch]

when your war kai get 2 misses with skill

[frail orbit]

[sharp wing]

6-7k damage.. sounds like very underlvled enemy

[vague token]

i think i topped 8k on a medium armor low level

[sharp wing]

lvl diff caps at 25 lvls

50%

[hot creek]

so this event is gonna be pure russian huh

no random HMS ship to steal the spotlight

[ripe latch]

russian event - get only usa ships

hms fleet strong on pvp in offensive?

[hot creek]

hms gud

[empty owl]

Queen Elizabeth retro when?

[sharp wing]

Right after Mikasa

[finite valve]

either we got a lot of new blood or ppl just change their name

[past egret]

New blood

[sharp wing]

More blood for the blood god... wait

[shy hazel]

[keen sparrow]

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

the meta that never happened

sendai

u might as well use superior ship

aurora

true ijn

[sharp wing]

sendai counters my buki

aurora cannot do shit

well in reality they are both just toilet paper

[keen sparrow]

jintsu nanoda noshiro better

[sharp wing]

[elder crane]

Sendai was more of a Belfast counter imo
too RNG otherwise, both for Sendai vs not-Bel and not-Sendai vs Bel

[karmic forum]

Aurora is only annoying when I'm trying to level vanguards and she comes in and wrecks them.

[elder crane]

I mean, that's defense in general
screw with underleveled/bad fleets/try to do some bullshit RNG

[sharp wing]

[ripe latch]

[keen sparrow]

[elder crane]

oh nice datamine out

[past egret]

LINK

IMAGE

[elder crane]

Soyuz stats and skill 2 seem very average
She'll need a nutty barrage to be good

[past egret]

LÏNK

[elder crane]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e_MSsv9ZYkZANc2QGlBGjJ0dTmoWekFqDVX9aoJXZHk/edit?usp=sharing

Oh damn, tashkent s1 could be very interesting

decently tanky too

[sharp wing]

only 1 of cls med armor hmm

[elder crane]

aside from slow meme though, seems more PvE

[past egret]

A fuck Yukikaze skill?

[elder crane]

doesn't seem good enough tbh

unless barrage is nutty

[sharp wing]

and it's gunboat

[elder crane]

lol at those stats on Gangut
Still more normal BB than Mikasa-tier, but pretty bad

110% main gun eff

[past egret]

Sovietsky seems decent

Depends on barrage of course

But that other skill would trigger in pvp no?

[elder crane]

Yes, but it's a pretty meh skill really

Even ignoring the fleet reqs, it's not that amazing, it's more of a bonus for if you run them in fleet

[sharp wing]

Gangut less FP than Mikasa

[elder crane]

and lol at using multiple NU/ER in PvP
probably more relevant in PvE

less FP and 110% gun eff
not super low HP though

[sharp wing]

Having less FP than Miaksa

[elder crane]

But hey
can we talk about Tashkent slow meme

we can now really slow meme

finally a vanguard ship with slow

[past egret]

That SR Backline ship disappoints me

[sharp wing]

no1 expected anything really

[elder crane]

it's literally 2nd oldest main fleet ship iirc

after Mikasa

[sharp wing]

I thought soyuz will be bulkier

[past egret]

That is fair

[elder crane]

No russian bias here mate

[past egret]

I thought Soyuz would be Bismarck for russia

[elder crane]

she has almost IJN-tier AA too

as kinda expected tbh

[sharp wing]

soviet ships main use is land bombardment

[past egret]

So now we have 3 useless factions

Italy France and Russia

[sharp wing]

italy has Zara at least

french have sanrui

and jb at least

I like Cesare anyway

[past egret]

Cesare seems good.. ish

Her barrage doesn’t look awful

[sharp wing]

her stats are

[past egret]

[sharp wing]

forgot gascogne

[past egret]

Is Gascogne even good

She’s PR

[sharp wing]

main french ship is Surc anyway

[past egret]

She has to be good right

[sharp wing]

[past egret]

Boobsmarine surcouf

[sharp wing]

And teme-chan

grenvilles "sister"

[elder crane]

When firing main guns, increase all North Union ships FP/Torp/AA/Reload by 8-18% for 10s;

When equiped with <Triple 305mm Model 1907>, main gun efficiency increased by 50-80%, decrease the reload time for the first 4 salvos of a battle by 20-35%."

Never mind, can't meme that she's that bad

just can't use normal BB guns

[past egret]

pVP vIabLe?

[elder crane]

No lol

[sharp wing]

and gun gonna be normal ammo

[elder crane]

might be decent in PvE for themed fleet

[past egret]

welp

[sharp wing]

but imagine that russian fleet

[past egret]

Guess the soviets won’t be delivering my dream for diverse meta

Time to wait for PR3 or Richelieu event

[sharp wing]

meta already diverse

we need iris rerun 1st

more baguette farm

[elder crane]

good independent soviet ships just ends up being assimilated into IJN, you know that

cough FdG

[past egret]

[sharp wing]

I'm back to Junie-less vg anyway

Is there guns datamine?

I was mostly interested in that anyway

[keen sparrow]

time bassed barrage again? with % chance nani????

[sharp wing]

same as usual

bb barage is on fire tho

[keen sparrow]

% chance ignite seems intresting

[sharp wing]

same like naga barrage

but some barrages have only 1% ignite

as vg guns

naga bb barrage

30%

[keen sparrow]

75% chance owarida

[sharp wing]

more than amagi

[light crystal]

Well, Chapayev is looking like the most promising for PvP so far.

[sharp wing]

she is gunboat

so no pvp

[light crystal]

Good gunbotes can be good for PvP.

[sharp wing]

lmao

[light crystal]

She gets a barrage, promising gunnery, and will kill Yukikazes hard.

[sharp wing]

LMAO

yeah, sure

Troll in other place

[light crystal]

Too bad I'm not :v

Also looking forward to new guns, see how good they're potentially for PvP purposes.

Could have better properties than Seattleguns, we'll see.

[sharp wing]

lmao

[keen sparrow]

new gun with 80% chance burn

[sharp wing]

only interested in 130mm dd guns

another fail as pizza gun incoming

[light crystal]

Maybe something to do with better ballistics I'm thinking. Cuz in WoWs, Chapayev guns are pretty accurate at range and have flat arcs

So railgun properties

[vague token]

start of battle slow

gangut seems fun

unless 305 is horrible

[sharp wing]

most likely

Also she has less FP than Mikasa, lol

so won't make it any much better

funny part about 4 salvos

not volleys, but salvos

either it's mistranslated

most likely

35% + 18% buff reload

[vague token]

fire really fast for tickle damage i guess?

[keen sparrow]

trash kent seems fun too

[vague token]

tashkent might have utility for torp/fast shelling teams

[sharp wing]

well, potentially 50% faster reload

[vague token]

unless the ice fairy has trouble hitting

there's only been 1 other start of battle slow

[sharp wing]

Unless it's destructible object

[vague token]

and it's rng

[sharp wing]

[keen sparrow]

[vague token]

i doubt it but summons are new tech

so who knows

[sharp wing]

also it's not actually

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

like slow

it's slowing barrage more

needs to hit

[vague token]

yeah

if it's a barrage it might cover some screen space

not just like a gun

[sharp wing]

nah

for the time it lasts

it's just extra MG

something

[vague token]

50 seconds of slow gun?

that deploys at 0?

[sharp wing]

50 seconds of barrage?

[vague token]

i mean i dunno

[sharp wing]

u gotta be drunk

[vague token]

it doesnt say

i mean making a 2nd ship with mikasa stats

am i the one who is drunk, or the manjuu

pretty sure the manjuu are

[sharp wing]

manjuu dun code

stop blaming manju

manju makes waifus

[vague token]

and then tosses them in gulag

[sharp wing]

[keen sparrow]

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

Blame yongshi

[vague token]

ok

[sharp wing]

for all 🥔 + 🍝

[keen sparrow]

to bad merkuria is just another elderidge skill n emergency manuver if she have skill that will gud

[sharp wing]

I just hope they dun fucc up the gun like spaghetti gun

it was so letdown

[keen sparrow]

[sharp wing]

2 guns fucced that event

[vague token]

i mean it's still a low calibur gun

it'll be what, just a bit above bb 283?

not sure if he or ap?

[sharp wing]

I mean spaghetti gun has second highest raw dps after 138

but it has fuccing normal ammo

🚮

[vague token]

needs ammo converters

xD

[sharp wing]

We got chinagun tho

[keen sparrow]

ammo converters ticket

[sharp wing]

we just need ammo slot

[vague token]

ammo and planes with customizable payload

xD

[sharp wing]

and torps

and camo

[vague token]

i wish they'd stop giving us barrages with % chance for a bonus effect when it already has a % chance to trigger

[sharp wing]

I want to paint it black

[vague token]

70% barrage chance for chance of fire xD

that's some purple heart tier skill design

[sharp wing]

well, many barrages already have chance to burn

like naga

simply by using HE ammo

[vague token]

yeah but purple heart and now chapayev specifically state they have a chance of burn

but it's like

but why

just make it 100 or give it HE

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

what is consistency

[sharp wing]

Meanwhile PH has only 20% burn

But it is stated there u know why

cause she fires damn AP

that burns...

[vague token]

i suppose it's also better than base cl burn chance

xD

[sharp wing]

burning swords

nah

[vague token]

i mean cl burn is 3%

minus belfast lol

[sharp wing]

wait

CA barrages 30%

[vague token]

yeah?

[sharp wing]

cl 3% dd 1%

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

some ca/bb 8%

sara

[vague token]

yeah there's some weird ones

we dont talk about those

[sharp wing]

Buki 8%

sanrui same

[vague token]

meanwhile zara deletes her burn chance if she uses he gun xD

[sharp wing]

not on barrage tho?

[vague token]

barrage is SAP

so doesnt matter

[sharp wing]

well

talking about barrage mostly

[vague token]

personally i thought SAP should have done burning and pierced

[sharp wing]

Actually CA guns have 8% burn chance

[vague token]

i suppose technically if zara's barrage WAS he for some reason

her skill would actually remove its ability to burn

based on wording it says she just Loses Ignite

so that means her DD gun also cant refresh

even if it's HE

[sharp wing]

inb4 it applies only to MG

cause

🍝

[vague token]

probably

[sharp wing]

Since skill specifically mentions MG

SAp gun on her should have both effects active

of he and ap

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

I haven't gotten the gun anwyay

droprates fail as always

while I got jb gun from this useless event

useless gun

wish they didn't troll us w/ t2 138 and put t3

and event would be good

golden baguettes

Bad buki Losing to bad doge

[keen sparrow]

[elder crane]

Ok wtf man
Equipment stats are completely unexpected

The DD gun is traaaaaaaaash

CL gun looks to be better than Seattle gun

WTF

Completely opposite of what I assumed would be the case

[frail orbit]

TF

Well

DD gun being that

Can see that gonna be derp tbh

The stats

[shy hazel]

we have french gun np

and since alot time ago one of the best cl guns was rus

tho it was blue so no one uses it

[hot creek]

seattle gun already power creeped?

[karmic forum]

The numbers look similar

Obviously we'll need to know the spread

[frail orbit]

^

Just hope that it wont be 2nd moggun anyway

[elder crane]

The numbers look better, you mean

[frail orbit]

HE+ afaik from ALEC

[elder crane]

1.25 vs 1.05 coefficient, and only like, was it 0.1 s longer load time and 5% less eff on med/heavy

[frail orbit]

Not HE++

But dunno tho

[elder crane]

HE+ and HE++ aren't that diff

It's just 5% on med/heavy

Light is exactly the same

[frail orbit]

And there we need to see whether it could be some Scuttlegun replacement for bb aux

[elder crane]

68 range so promising there
Will need to check ammo range later, if it's 70 too, then it's basically straight upgrade

[frail orbit]

Also 45 fp hmmmm
Perhaps s slightly more fp scuttlegun lel

[karmic forum]

How is the CL gun way better than seattle gun

[frail orbit]

If pattern aint moggun

[karmic forum]

It seems about the same

[frail orbit]

Not saying its better anyway

Am just saying
Chapgun as scuttlegun replacement

[karmic forum]

Yeah that seems to be the case

[frail orbit]

Since I just have 1 scuttlegun at +10 atm

[karmic forum]

Unless the spread is bad

[frail orbit]

2 more still at +6

Btw lmao shima

U got that komintern 82fp keks

[shy hazel]

thing is

good or baf

bad

i dont have oil to farm it

[frail orbit]

[karmic forum]

Yeah

[shy hazel]

current event is dumbstipid

[karmic forum]

Because despite the tragedy that is Pamiat stats, I'm still going to use her

[shy hazel]

dumb rewards

stupid point gain

copy the data here

i dont join other discord groups

lazy

[elder crane]

It's 1.25 vs 1.05 coefficient

Literally almost 20% more damage per salvo

More like 15% on med/heavy due to ammo mods, but still

Reload is only slightly longer, much less than the 15-20%

[karmic forum]

Are you talking about the CL gun?

[elder crane]

Yes

[karmic forum]

Because the numbers I have say that its 105 eff

130mm b-2l: 15x6 normal, 100 55 25, 125 eff, 1.73 reload, 65 range, 35 fp
152mm b-35mk4: 16x6 he, 145 105 70, 105 eff, 3.56 reload, 68 range, 45 fp
blue 305 mle 1907: 92x3 he, 140 110 90, 125 eff. 27.4 reload, 12 fp
aux: 20 fp, 180 hp, 6% less dmg from sirens

[elder crane]

Dammit man, guy just confirmed he typo'd

Ok so exactly as expected then

Chappy gun is worse than PR

And DD gun is very good

[karmic forum]

Yeah but doesn't seem like its worse by that much

Unless the spread is bad

[shy hazel]

good nothing to farm

[karmic forum]

It can be a decent stand in

[elder crane]

DD gun is worth farming I think

[karmic forum]

Can you even farm it?

I was under the impression that only the CL gun was farmable

[shy hazel]

if its in the event map, its farmable

[elder crane]

We don't know what is farmable yet

I'd assume it's DD gun
Since two SU DD but 1 CL, and DD gets the gun skill

[frail orbit]

Hmmm so scuttlegun all +10ed it?

My plates tho

[elder crane]

No, that's good

Scuttlegun is better still

New DD gun is better than 138 vs not-heavy though I think

[karmic forum]

CL gun is the drop in D3

Confirmed

[elder crane]

D2?

[shy hazel]

question is

[karmic forum]

I only have D3 data

[shy hazel]

is it worth farming

[elder crane]

No

[shy hazel]

[frail orbit]

Still better to have alternatives tho

[elder crane]

The amount of runs needed..... Not worth
Don't run D3 for the gun, run D3 for other reasons, and gun is just bonus

[karmic forum]

We'll see which map is more efficient to farm

D3 does have the advantage of dropping chappy as well

[frail orbit]

^

[elder crane]

That's also mostly bonus too really

[shy hazel]

technically of its point farm

[elder crane]

Given rates

[shy hazel]

c3 has always been better

cos low requirements

[frail orbit]

And am seeking more option for aux gun anyway

Plus

For some VGs . . .

cough belfap cough

[elder crane]

I mean
If you run D3 all event
Maaaaaaybe you get 4 of the gun

Might not even get 3 though

[frail orbit]

Still better than waiting for 5++ scuttlegun anyways

At +10 all

[shy hazel]

thing is

if its not the best its bad for pvp

[frail orbit]

Which is why am not even gonna run that for pvp aux anyway

For that

Wait for my plates

Given I already have 3 scuttlegun

And my usual comp being WFC/KFC anyways

And no need to pepelaugh either pepecobear keks

[shy hazel]

no

i emote what i want

[frail orbit]

Ok boomer beta tester

[shy hazel]

pepe is millenial pls

[frail orbit]

Naaaa u boomer beta tester

Well am a boomer too so well

But yer an older boomer

[shy hazel]

im not even on my 30s but wtv

russian ships apparently suck for pvp

as expected

[frail orbit]

No blue skill so

That, I could agree on

[shy hazel]

they should at least

refit avrora

literally the games first ssr

for superior beta players like me

[ionic magnet]

you mean superior beta buyer

hmm as usual zero interesting bote for pvp

[karmic forum]

I'd argue that Pamiat is interesting in PvP

Mainly because if you see 120 pamiat you'd question the sanity of the person fielding her

[frail orbit]

That

We already know

[karmic forum]

(look forward to level 120 pamiat in my fleet btw)

[frail orbit]

Am just goin for Mother Russia anyway mostly

Bkoz, Skadi 👌

Heck her chibi animation looks like Skadi keks

With that skin ofc

[ionic magnet]

best skin is still pamiat

[vague token]

huh i just realized tashkent has 51 speed lol

[elder crane]

Fastboi

Charles Tash with 4 engines and badge in fleet time

[forest lake]

Ah shit

Just oathed Aurora a few days ago and now Chappy looks like a better Aurora

[elder crane]

Chappy only affects DDs, not CL
Also lower debuff

Also she's a gunboat, which is meh for PvP

On the PvE side, swiftsure will be better, being 10% debuff to evarate on one target regardless of class

[frail orbit]

Now kinda reminds me of what if

Kizuna chip pattern + ankimo on tashkent

Just Tashkent being a FasTashkent

[elder crane]

Now stack charles buff and beavee badge on main fleet

ZOOM ZOOM

[forest lake]

oh chappy useless?

Good

Don't wanna farm for her

[midnight heron]

tf man tashkent seems busted af vs enemy vg

free slows for 50s

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[vague token]

oh wow that barrage style lol

[keen sparrow]

free slow 50s
i wonder if that skill at lv 10, 80% slow?

[midnight heron]

datamine didnt specify % slow for any lvl so

[shy hazel]

homing barrage