#pvp
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that's the general idea. move only when someone else moves first
and always hold 5 matches until end of season because of more bonus points
this can also be called camping or begging if you see someone you know from here 
sniping was a term used back then as well.
I actually don't understand how some people are like 105+ in commander levels and still don't even have 120 fleets.
3:3 but swap all the time
this ppl still farm 3-4 

still waiting for manual realtime pvp 
Waiting for the time where we could bully others for real
become our food 
Please do

One of her lines struck me when I first got her, which is why I wanted the others

U Baka


i need to buy gold to unlock fdg
then i dont have biloxi bitch yet
ill name her bitchloxi

@shy hazel move more please 
time to rest for tmrow 

is 14k high for that vg?
either miss equip or noshiro is not that tanky
5/5 died in within 20 sec
actually might be too high... with pearl boiler i only get 13.7k with 115 noshiro. her stats are pretty meh it seems for fp
still need to find 1 good noshiro on defense
we'll find out soon. There's a few of us working on 120 noshiros
I even oathed mines to get a better comparison. that extra 6% might make a difference
mines is gonna live in dorms until she hits 120
if only hard runs this event gave more exp
farming affection
oh hello Stella, you moved but not enough for bonus points 
torp memes sound fun, but I want to see if noshiro is as tanky as neptune
if so, I can have 7s amagi barrage again
Eh
CA like FP, nice tank also, foken evade too
Her Dido class buff too
Problem is her capitalist issue like KGV tho but . . .
We know that KFC is a thing r8?
Oh well it's Peco who said that
Perhaps I should ask Holo who's some fellow HMS afficionado keks
Dido may have decent FP when fully buffed (unbuffed she is regular CL stat, and nothing close to CA tier, lol), but she is Torpbote with non existent torps and will need to use 100mm just to spam barrage same as Siri, cause actual gun damage will be worse
And she is Frail
It never said she needs QE tho
The skill said
If QE there
Then QE got buffed
Just look at the datamine smhw keks
Anyway Sag, that's for Peco to read again xD
Dido has tremendous AA tho
Problem is her being AA bote (aka, a torpbote with AA specialization) lel
At least her FP could be increased unlike well, Sandy before her kai
She would be better off w/ 2 aa guns instead of torps
Still, her torps tho still welp
her torps about as useless as Sandy's
But not even that skill said Dido needs QE anyway keks
the fact that no one is talking about dido mkes her bad fast
Hey, I talk about her
first skill is 2 skills in 1
Yandere 
1st skill no need QE
she only gives buff to QE in second part of second skill
^
she doesn't need QE in fleet for anything
She just needs HMS botes for 2nd skill to buff herself like KGV
QE buff is just bonus
More like... QE needs her in fleet to be not as trash
Or extra AA gun
Either London or Seattle approach is fine
Ata-go

I dun sit there with those plebs tho 


only wish ladder pvp one reset per day so have to login less

Have to do pvp 3 times a day in IS and AL

At least IS gib gems for pvp
Am taking PVP in AL just to bully anyway
hk on top of being whelland is too time consuming
like 3 hrs for fuccing dailies
at least
In IS when I dun have time or just too lazy i just Loot pvp/pve lol, instantly finish all tries and give guaranteed reward, but doesn't move you in ladder
My Ceres maids almost ready
u flipped 6
idk what you mean

You can persuade yrself all you want
no u




When all u want for christmas is... Y.. Dido but u get 4 op white haired ijn doggo
I see some people also went for arknights

They added instagram to al... Thats somth too guess, sweet jav was first
Stupid ijn thats almost as teasing limit break her for free with so many dupes



Oh Jessica you silly gal 

does helena increase plane crash damage?
She applies debuff to enemies increasing all kinds of damage, aside burn/flood
ok
I heard someone say plane crash dmg ignore dmg modification
so i just ask to make sure
ok
Think Dido got any pvp value?
not really
make qe great again 
i see

just run siri w/ FC
HMS got enough good main ship to pick from
siri has role of carrier buffer at least
like warkai FC
right, need Warkai in there
if QE kai comes, you also wanna add Warkai and KGV, so no carrriers then?
is KGV needed though?
kgv gives hms bb comp vg pressure
i got the feeling Warkai + Formidable + filler already kills the vanguard easily
I wonder if doing a full 5x rush jeopardized my chance at rank one this season last night 
In the Morning i woke up to a super rusher and got 4 bonus points to help but I’m bad at math so I don’t know how much I lost off rushing
Had to go to bed early and despised the player who was currently rank 1, knocking him down to 2 felt to good to pass up
ihr + torp on jintsu best equip? or toolbox + torp?
u should put hp on jintsuu. her base hp is low and she benefits from hp more due to dr skill
pearl + toolbox 
use boilers instead of toolboxes
pre new aa gun
post new aa gun (on kita) (surface dps only)
that gun is actually good on gun dd it seems
so i heard that
doing ur pvp separately helps with rank
anyone knows why or is that true
not separately, just earning bonuses, by attacking players who used their tickets
how do i do that
You check yr list often...
And see who used tickets
oh-
they will get higher rank duh
U need 35 seasonal score difference for 1 bonus point
when base score for match becomes 10
earlier in season it needs less difference
but after i beat the one guy in my list who has ranked up, i go to another 4 people
and i cant tell if they have used their tickets
what... u see their rank
umm
yes?
means u get no bonus
but like after i beat one guy, the next 4 people will automatically be ranged near my current place again
yes
do i wait again for one of those 4 to use their tickets
you need wait again
what if the 4 have already used
but since you stay at 5/10 each reset for that tactics
yea
you cannot go beyond reset
so it's often 1 bonus per reset
near end of reset i just give up on the strat?
u know incase it doesnt work that well
wdym...
d00d it's so simple...
u need to use attempts before reset so u don't lose them
F
or like
that's it
that's regular thing
what do i do in that case
As I said, usually u get 0 or 1 bonus match [per reset
either refresh ur list or just wait for reset end to push the extra attempts past 5/10
depends...
it's camping simulator where u want to be at 10/10 at the beginning of a reset every time and hope u get bonuses
Just don't forget to go to 5/10 before reset
no
reset is in 3 hrs
previous reset was 8 hrs ago
so we around middle season
not losing ticket > bonuses
mm
you can camp 2 days and then lose 1 match due to not being 5/10 before reset and u lose all advantage

if u are 10/10 before reset... RIP
so better being safe w/ 0/10
if u know u won't be online for a while
Like in EU timezone U usually have to do 0/10 before second reset (or rush 5/10 right after second reset), when u go to sleep
if u sleep more than 6 hrs
or u miss 2 resets and that's 10 or 5 tickets lost
So it's not very sandbag friendly
Most important time to PvP is at the beginning of the season
no
If you log in right at the season reset the chances are higher that you will find rushers
score get equalized around middle season
@zenith tundra new twin aa on kita not bad?
start is pretty irrelevant

What do you mean they get equalized?
15fp on a gun ship with 91 fp at 200 oath
I mean what i mean
it's a really big boost
If you are far ahead on start, ug et no bonuses, if you are behind on start, ug et more bonuses
Missing the point boost at the beginning of the season is more significant than later
around middle season no matter what yr start was, u arrive around same point
...
there nothing missing
I tell you again...
If u sandbag
u can has 190 start and 150 start and arrive at same score middle season
it all gets equalized due to how sandbgag works
If u don't sandbag, then start will matter

like absolutely rushing all tickets after 1st day
problem with early boost is that point difference in between base point at different ranks diminishes the effective bonuses u get over non sandbaggers. even with a -9 bonus 2nd reset u can beat ur score by end of +12 base points
also if u get 1st 3 matches with big bonuses, you already lose points, due to 4th match being on next rank with lower base score
and so on
it all gets around same mark
That makes sense
start about absolutely irrelevant for sandbagger
My b then, I guess I thought about it the wrong time all along
By mid season every1 score will be equalized and those who get bonus points at base 10 score win
On non avrora servers u can easily get aotn simply by not losing tickets anyway, dont even need sandbag much
i recorded the score of 1 season and with 116 bonus points from beginning to captain rank i was only 69 pts ahead of minimum at that point
Just don't rush Friday
should I use the new AA gun on Yukikaze?
Seems like a bad idea
she does non existent gun dmg. i just use a +hit aa gun
i'm pretty sure u can use that on yuki with twin 100 but i don't think the boost is significant anyway
but u also lose both aa stat on yuki and plane damage so it's worse against cv comps
Speaking of scores evening out hes not wrong
I had a 20 point score difference now it’s settled down to around 10

Despite the devs best efforts, it seems like a significant portion of avrora still cares about PvP 
@karmic forum what else is there to do once you grind the levels out and no events exist?
pvp
Can’t grind for 100% collection unless you’ve been playing since your server start
Fleet power is whale zone
Fleet tech
Challenge mode and fleet tech maybe
Or alternatively you could play other games
Like what? Arknights?

Still I think pvp is good for the game since it has an established community
And seeing that devs are giving us Suruga and dido boss events they are moving to more player interaction events where you either interact with players or contribute together
the usual 5 people that memorized the rushers names and is always top 10....
that's actual pvp community if u ask me
People do that?
Washington end of season usually is never the same top 10
There’s a few people who scavenge within top 10 between seasons but not consistently
check avrora
i just use up all my exercises whenever given the chance so does that mean im a rusher?
I always do 10 after daily reset and 5 before daily reset.
I sand bag from 2am-8pm, at 8pm I sleep soon so I spend the 8pm reset rushing down to 5/10
i have a lvl 70 defence fleet of cranes, suruga, atago, takao, shigure with just stock gear
Don’t worry about defense fleet unless you’re trying for rank 1 end of season
I use my offense fleet as my defense fleet lmao
i have a purin and akagi
Or just to flex you can put stuff in it
also
about the collection rate
people who started playing since beggining on my server dont even have 100%
There are only certain times where 100% is possible
Most likely new event or new drop ships
Namely after the monthly ship is claimable
the new ijn dd is not available rn
People should be rewarded for 100% collection 
Also some other time gates like newcastle and uranami in this event.
At least even if it’s just like, 500 coins
people should also be rewarded for ending season in top 100
make it 666 oil and 666 coins
in my server on jp there are almost 100 people with 100%
or 1337 coins
ye
I suggested it before
Giving anything, even intern shot it down, started a big complaint argument in suggestions
Although I think devs want the game to be as casual as possible (at least on EN)
It’d promote “whaling” if they gave stuff away like that
Lemme see if I can find the topic through search
whaling for what?
Mod said rewards at end of season would promote whaling in pvp
@zenith tundra

Months ago
Ima suggest it again
what is there to whale in pvp tho? 
i don't get what would u whale for when pvp is a camping simulator
There is no way to whale in PvP
well
i guess it would promote whaling
so u can have optimal ship and gear for pvp
and then pvp would be hard for f2p people
well theres the marriage stat bonuses at 200 affection
u have to put in alot of money to make a difference tho
Oaths won't make a difference
most of pvp gear is same in pve
Attacker bonus and levels is what makes the difference

anything that is hard for super casual to get is not good it seems
I had to edit it, it should say one of the following
Not all of them
Devs would be to generous giving all of that 
I meant I would be fine if it were just coins or cubes
If I'd be given something to be preferred
Just need real time pvp
Or any true challenge tbh
For endgame player
It's not even a challenge atm

It's to detect cheaters keks
NOICE
first guild war crushing server 
Time to bulli others


i don't think the average al player would care about guild wars
fair
@zenith tundra yeah but for us bloodthirsty warmonger tho
and i would care
i don't think anyone that joins this channel is average
why would u care about a channel only for minmaxing pvp fleet
Mostly bkoz #gameplay-help is a d1ck smhw

guild war its 10 enty ws 10 enty? 
They got redirected there
lol
Gameplay help has some smart people in it, but the remnant 80%, actual dicks or just flat out stupid.

if u go to gameplay-help is to help people not to bother with people perma lurking there
No one is moving

I’m trying to snatch as much bonus points before hitting my promotion
i don't use ws
Granted, JP already hv FDG
i never liked ws from release. 130% bonus for no reason and no relation to anything else in the game...
For me
Power is anything . . .
So I grabbed at the slightest opportunity of moar power
fdg imo is more balanced on offense then ws and more broken on def then ws

8,2k 
if she doesn't proc what do u expect

ok google found me siren 


lmao Taihou

names could use a bit of work xD
I like it
simple
@jagged steppe that name on graf is hilarious
Since she just hates everything, brilliant name
wtf is mineapolis
lmao
but why cranes
I would like to try shoukaku zuikaku nagato with helena only if I have nagato
Mine is zombie CA from FW
cranes are bad
mostly Zuiikaku lets it down
her damage is trash and she makes Shou take more damage
minne used to be cool, got power creeped though
It gets as ridiculous, as ppl using single shoukaku for buffing

Minne retrofit 
her damage and durability cant keep up with baltimore
although to be fair Baltimore is like the highest tech eagle CA or something
over time, while balti has all the power up front
Mine has different role...
as zombie
If u run healer... what's point in zombie anyway
lol
look i leveled people like biscuit to 120
I stopped biscuit at around 117 cause she hit 200 aff
dorm duty
kek
honestly i havent used minne in a while cause my clear fleets have been pr exp and balti is on boss duty
she is hanging out with sodak on 2nd floor xD
She's my lead ship in ch13 mobs right now
Doing the heavy lifting on vanguard cleanup duty
Though, Vestal is outdamaging her 
Ch13 and its planes 

U use ACC guns
STAAG
that gun is also slow af
highest reload of all aa guns ever made
by far
I dont have staag yet
15 fp isnt worth that terrible reload
u lose like 20 raw dps there
does slow reload aa gun affacting reload time of main gun?
unless you counteract with the blue meme aa gun or something
it's now lowest dps gold aa gun
basically, drunk bunny gun
and her reload buffs
no one else
which one should I use for waspite ?
xD
bofors until you get a staag
these are the only thing I have
there pretty much nothing to choose
oh god my gift mails are running out on ak
I mean will aa gun affacting main gun reload time?
shouldn't I just use new aa gun for fp?
till u get more gold guns... sure
yeah you can use it to sub in
it's probably fine as a gold slot on a high reload ship
is it on the wiki table yet
ye
oh i see it
Sandy not unlocked it yet...
lowest of all golds
So only just looked into it
still better than all purples and below so
well, dps ye, but firerate...
it's slower than roomba lol
yeah it's literally just for stats
tbh it's gun dd gun lol
i think i used those back in ye starter days
anthena gun
because i had no idea

deep penetration
they just gave littorio weird ap
=(
does 10% more damage thing
xD
actually maybe drunk bunny with that single 130 + this aa gun
to fix the lost fp

does enterprise double damage the plane crash?
I think so
Always get super wrecked whenever enemy Enty procs on you if you don't have VG alive


pvp lul
lul
i lost 2 cause dinner
i lost 4 cause i decided to sleep trough an alarm
i won't find any decent comp to test against if i'm 2k rank every season
then it gets really boring
this game is boring
im just here for waifu
want to play arknight but its the same shit

nein
i can't even side play al when i play mhw
im playin while chattin like this
cant when playin heavy game
sell account


100usd 
it doesnt even come close to my gbf accnt price

4k usd offer to me

sad game al
well the easier the gacha the cheaper accnts are anyways
this is illegal talk btw

noone sell anything
who cares about selling al accounts might as well retire it

overall my account was better just jp server is too much of a plus
ik heh
lel
im still w10 
with like 3 lane of lvl 120
im casuals
i'm at 85% with 4 event ships missing. really don't want to bother with retros
good thing i quit gbf
and fgo
shit graphic
shit game
at least al have good graphic
when being shit game

FGO, u have to pay for botnet $20 a month (or share on 2 accs $10 each) to get auto fights and other essential for game QoL options lmao 
On top of whelling at least $100 on banner if you want have decent chance to roll spmething u want 
Nah. There would be one less food if i quit
im kinda excited for the idol event too. my 17 cubes is ready
wait it's actually 19


Arknight makes me 
When your irl sanity depletes faster than ingame 


When all of ibuki torp critted
yall how many contribution points do you get when fighting dido?
298
damn howd you do that
Grind 24/7 and lose sanity oil 
Ak waifus are not as good tho 
Like how u can send ship on commission and still use it in raid
weird combo
I mean waifu combo
rate up is lie 
Best portland kai gear?
Pretty sure you're supposed to get 300 points for the full 500k damage of killing Dido
However, DoT damage doesn't count towards end scorecard, so it's almost impossible to actually get 500k
You need to either:
- Luck out and not get any DoT applied
- Do enough overkill dmg to counteract the DoT (does overkill even count here? idk)
- Run a team that can't apply any DoTs
Usual gun-CA stuff for Portland
Rudder/Badge for survivability, then bulge if lead or Engine otherwise
ihr + gyro , ws torp replace gyro for buli
Pretty much Azuma is the only ship that actually runs Gyro in PvP
Questionable even on the higher-DpS CAs, none are that tanky or have that much base HP
I got confused cause Dido
Thought I wasn't in PvP 
what
Speed is more counterproductive vs torps than anything
more movement = catches more torps
unless vanguard is super slow
better get all torps ws yuki with rainbow 
@small cypress but u can use her with boiler+ihr 
running CA without bulge hurts too
id rather boiler 2 other botes
and ihr+bulge
and that makes Juneau pearl which i'm not fond of too
That makes CA poo-poo overall 
try her with pearl - usless
memeland


Buki just crited 4.2k on enemy warkai 

best sandy gear?
regular CL gear
@sharp wing sg radar boost cl gun hit rate on bb?

Alright lads you know the vibe
If you guys want me to use a specific team against a specific team, please let me know.
Any issues?
1st match nagato 0 procs, 2nd match 1 proc 
En don't have shigure kai yet
and it's just much worse nanoda after kai
No point in her after nanoda became permanent
for yuki 100mm if there planes, 76mm if there only bbs, rainbow magtorps, FE, boiler/toolbos or event equivalents
whats the best vanguard for when i run 3 USN CVs?
Junie
rest depends if u want to mem full usn or not
standard Junie+Nanoda + flex
forgot i put event macro, almost out of oil, lol
im pvping just for memes
thats why im not running IJN 😄
how come Junie is used almost everywhere tho? Is it just the fact that her Skill heals+the pearl?
Junie alone gives around 20-30% winrate to yr shitty comps
simple as that
going from 50% to 80% just from making her die for yr sins

sandy on cv corp 


Well, if u want to run uss cv fleet, you can sue Balti for buff



















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