pvp

[oblique marsh]

1 second is still a big distance already

[sharp wing]

1 sec is right

that's about time needed for ryuu torps to reach targets

after launch

you will just need to test it out

[oblique marsh]

Yeah, i'll try it later.

[sharp wing]

but i rahter run formie fighter and avgas + def item than formie helldiver and beacon + avgas/def

or just pur barra helldiver on formie

[oblique marsh]

Def item?

[sharp wing]

beaver or rudder

[oblique marsh]

Oh

Why not catapult?

[sharp wing]

survivability more important

there rarely spot for cata

maybe in foxes comp avgas+cata and only if u not dueling foxes

if u dueling foxes still need beacon

for regular cvs it's either avgas + beacon or avgas + def tiem

[oblique marsh]

I can't imagine of a cv without a catapult. Maybe i should try that too, i might not get cucked and owarida'd

[sharp wing]

lol

I wish all hiryuus ran Cata

ez

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

new buki dress scares wallet-kun

[zenith tundra]

the only skin i'll get is yuki one

[sharp wing]

nanoda needs dog suit

with collar

and a doghouse

[zenith tundra]

never use ibuki outside of daily torp i would never see it

[sharp wing]

buki is main pvp carry

I really like her now

And i got both her dresses...

Also I don't buy costumes just for chibi

[zenith tundra]

i have both ibuki skins too

i use yuki as secretary at least

[sharp wing]

[shell heron]

Hope you're ready for a 3rd buki skin

But a noshi/buki comp almost stalled me today

[ripe latch]

[sour oasis]

Ah, top 2 of Avrora have meme fleets. Wish exercise fleets were exercise fleets and not flex.

[shell heron]

When noshi and buki torps took half of my ws hp

[ripe latch]

when noshi take half xp of my porti

[sharp wing]

[jagged steppe]

avrora top 100 most of the time having atleast 1-3 out of 5 meme fleet

while avrora 1000-1200 justg bunches of full 120 nagato

[ripe latch]

top5 fleets - loli with ark

[karmic forum]

Ark + loli is a low iq meme fleet

So overdone

So boring

[ripe latch]

but , one day u can see 120 loli with 120 ark

[karmic forum]

I haven't seen a single one of those yet

[sharp wing]

vert + lolies

[karmic forum]

Thats better because you're also flexing a collab ship (although she was free iirc)

[sour oasis]

Vert + Ark and nothing but oppai loli dd.
Cue confused noises

[sharp wing]

Teme-chan

with "sister"

[lean geode]

why roomba over pompom on juneau?

i figured with efficiency that high she'd prefer pompom

[sharp wing]

pompom is not used in general

burst 113 dps bofors

pompom cuts range

l00d2d

[cosmic edge]

...........

thx

[ripe latch]

[untold wharf]

i was told to ask in here but is it true that formi, centaur, warkai is as good as nagato, hiryuu, amagi

i dont have amagi or nagato so im wondering

[hot creek]

Not necessarily as good as namagiryuu. But they can beat them handily. So yes, they're worth raising for that purpose. They're also pretty great in pve.

[high bay]

as far as im concerned that team is as threatening as namaryuu if not less

[ionic magnet]

in offense yes if not better
in defense no cos only namagi comps has a chance there

[shy hazel]

oh

more or less

im ending with with the usual score

godbless my +4 last 3 resets

[hot creek]

oh, I can oath Benson with my free ring

or Georgia

[shy hazel]

what a dumb choice

ofc its benson

[hot creek]

Need both for the ultimate Murica team

[high bay]

i see you have good taste

my good sir

[past egret]

https://youtu.be/xo8tAlI0JGI

Any flaws with this video I found?

First flaw I found was “no Juneau”

https://youtu.be/Nm7DZ3vGpSw

Same with this one

[shy hazel]

do u know what the basic flaw is

using kms

[hot creek]

those torp teams still not using mag torps kek

that Z team is pretty poggers tho. Avdoiding all them shells in the second one. Needs more testing.

we typically do 10 matches in a row minimum.

[ionic magnet]

is that the vid before with zero nagato barrage

[upper sparrow]

azuma goes to offtank or tank role?

[hot creek]

tank

[upper sparrow]

ok

[sour oasis]

"Offtank"?

[hot creek]

the position thats not in front and not in the middle

[sour oasis]

Ah. The aft.

[vague token]

aka the one that doesnt get hit by torps as much unless ai does weird stuff

xD

[sour oasis]

PvP doesn't take into effect mood/love bonuses, but it does give the 10% oath boost? (offense and defense teams)

[vague token]

oath boost is an extension of affection boost

cause you get 6% at 100

when you oath it jumps to 9

then when you hit 200 it goes to 12

[sour oasis]

Oh. So oathing does... Absolutely nothing to PvP. Huh.

[hot creek]

It's a pretty signifigant chunk of HP, but nothing gamebreaking. You can still get away with using unoathed fleet against oathed fleets.

[vague token]

the ships that benefit the most out of oath

are ships with a lot of hp

[sour oasis]

Oathing gives HP?

[vague token]

it's like all stats except luck/hit/speed or w/e

[sour oasis]

I'm just trying to figure out where oathing/mood boosts other than story/daily fights. PvP seems to drop all bonuses save for level and equipment.

[shy hazel]

oathing gives an edge in pvp

escept for jnu

@shell heron

move u wont get point anyways

[sour oasis]

[shy hazel]

what does the N stand for

[sour oasis]

Huh. It should be an "E".

Hopefully that didn't break anything.

[ionic magnet]

oath stats affect pvp wdym

[shell heron]

Oh you have me on your list

I should wait a little longer then

[shy hazel]

[sour oasis]

So oathing gives it's own bonuses and not mood/affection bonuses? It almost overcomes the -20% penalty of being the defending team?

[shy hazel]

no

bonus only adds a few perc more

its meant for offense

for less resets

inb4 cay gets cucked by eldridge again

[cerulean estuary]

in my personal opinion giving +20% atk bonus buffs and not to mention the RESET button

give F2P players chance to DEFEAT oathed / P2P players / high leveled / gear efficient team compo

[shell heron]

I already abandoned this season because dead gensui rush

[shy hazel]

[ionic magnet]

its not about f2p and whales
its about having namagi or not

[cerulean estuary]

i lost 1 match bcoz of "bad" haircut

[vague token]

or being first to pr2

[shell heron]

only +1 for both rush resets

[vague token]

xD

[shell heron]

I move in 6 minutes

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

i already used mine for aotn kek

[shy hazel]

meh

i wont wait for u

[shell heron]

it's a +2

[ionic magnet]

[shell heron]

I have 7 more matches to go

[shy hazel]

i got a meeting soon

[shell heron]

to give or not to give

[ionic magnet]

we all ded anyways

[shell heron]

Okay I give. I can't see me going past 2587 anyways

[shy hazel]

[cerulean estuary]

when will the time arrives , when devs revise pvp system or add guild wars

[shell heron]

you better get top 10 with this

[vague token]

pvp wont be changed

the only thing they should ever consider is a new form

[shy hazel]

im probably t10 regardless

probably

[vague token]

eg guild or a new pvp mode

this is the safest route since exercises still guarantee extra bulins for people

[shell heron]

tbh I could have not rushed and gotten 2590+ this season

[shy hazel]

im ending in flat

2590

unless i get -

[vague token]

i could have been 2590 if i didnt drop two from mhw

xD

[shy hazel]

no kiro

it isnt linear

[shell heron]

Hoo could have been top 3 if he didn't drop 3 matches

[shy hazel]

u dropped matches so u got more bonus

[sour oasis]

I still think the easiest mod to PvP is to remove those who reach AotN from leaderboards. They hit AotN, they no longer get ladder points (players still have to move past them) or merit and can only go down (fighting for ship xp)

[shy hazel]

i move in 2min

[shell heron]

hold I'm rushing as fast as I can

need to get you that +2

[shy hazel]

er

pribably 1

i alrdy used 3 matches

[shell heron]

in that case you can move now

[shy hazel]

i dont think can reach 2

[shell heron]

I got 2 more matches left

[shy hazel]

domo ty

[shell heron]

not enough +10s

ran out of refreshes

ok I'm done

2586 score

[sour oasis]

How did you get that high? I thought 2570 was above average. 2580 seems super lucky.

[vague token]

im pretty sure that's about normal for no dropped with meh bonuses

especially since he got murdered by rush

[shell heron]

2585 is the norm for end scores

mines is usually 2593+ but dead gensui resets and rushing was pretty bad

if you want to talk about season end high scores

2600+ is pretty common

if the season isn't completely dead

[shy hazel]

nyaaa

im eating a minus one

[shell heron]

you made me rush for nothing

Oh I see famine

he's either ending at 2602 or 2601

[shell heron]

check again

now is when the real sandbaggers move

[vague token]

wait like 2 minutes

[shell heron]

nope famine ate 2 +9s

2600

[empty grove]

I ate 3 +9s actually

[merry shoal]

24th now....

[empty grove]

Shit season

[shy hazel]

[empty grove]

Curve was so big I had to save a refresh for last match too

[sour oasis]

Wow. I'm doing something wrong at 2560 season score?

[empty grove]

Incase I got someone far enough down for a +2

[vague token]

i dropped 2 and i have 2570

[sour oasis]

How? Avrora?

[vague token]

yeah

i had a horrible start too

[sour oasis]

I went undefeated with maybe four 9 point victories.

[vague token]

like ~130

xD

[shell heron]

hmm this season is pretty shit

[vague token]

oh 2 got stalled

[vague token]

there are people on the ladder

[merry shoal]

Yeah....

[shell heron]

if I still got top 10

[vague token]

21 and 14 lol

[shy hazel]

you know who gave me 2 this season

[shy hazel]

@ionic magnet

[shell heron]

[ionic magnet]

this season never happened

[shy hazel]

i was thinking why hoo suddenly rushed

[vague token]

the power of furry and lizards got him

that's why

[shy hazel]

ty for +2

[shell heron]

because he dropped 3

no recovering from that

[sour oasis]

+2...that's a 70 ladder point difference?

[shy hazel]

your loss was my nourishment

[hot creek]

Still number 1 on Sandy even though I lost a match the season start

[merry shoal]

I know mucha rushed last 3 days and giving me plus 1s

[sour oasis]

That's.. A lot of luck getting those +1s

[shy hazel]

its not luck

its sandbagging

[sour oasis]

That's luck.

[vague token]

well, part of it is luck (start of season lel)

[sour oasis]

That you can get +1 on every fight?

[empty grove]

No one +1s every fight

[shell heron]

and gensui
Worse
Season
Ever

[merry shoal]

I know I started this season pretty badly too

[shy hazel]

i was sure ill end up at top 10

[merry shoal]

Kind of sucks

[shy hazel]

i ended up at 4

[sour oasis]

But isn't the total score for a season, with no bonuses, 2500?

[empty grove]

I started it bad

[shy hazel]

[empty grove]

Like 144

[shy hazel]

thats why mr e

[shell heron]

I don't mind 140 starts anymore

[shy hazel]

sandbag is the future

[shell heron]

its the next few days that concern me

[shy hazel]

i never start season at 140

[vague token]

i didnt get a 140 start X_x

[shy hazel]

i mostly get my points midweek to endweek

[merry shoal]

Yeah sometimes I get really good pairings and sometimes it doesn’t change at all

[shell heron]

guess it's time to break out the meme fleet

[sour oasis]

Average luck shouldn't give +100 out of 200 tickets. (2600 season score)

[shell heron]

which is still awful for new players

[shy hazel]

because sandbag needs strategy

knowing when to reset do rounds

and knowing who will push

[vague token]

it's more like when you work

or does your work let you check AL

every hour or w/e

xD

[sour oasis]

Without knowing other players' schedules, it's luck.

...

[shy hazel]

rude kiro

[hot creek]

started the season down a match. still got 2590+

[shell heron]

"restroom breaks"

[sour oasis]

Unless. You know other players' schedules.

[shy hazel]

i know who pushes

[merry shoal]

Sandy server?

[empty grove]

I know too

[shy hazel]

ive been top 10 for 25 times

[empty grove]

& the people who alternate/save 10

[shy hazel]

[sour oasis]

Well. F.

[vague token]

famine has a list

[shy hazel]

never top 1

[vague token]

big google spreadsheet

[shell heron]

I was close once

[shy hazel]

blame loser famine

[vague token]

never misses anyone

;)

[shell heron]

but eld happened

[sour oasis]

That. Is impressive. Also, crazy.

[empty grove]

Stalled into next season

[merry shoal]

Spreadsheet? I want to see that

[empty grove]

The meme will never die

[merry shoal]

But probably give me anxiety

[sour oasis]

[empty grove]

I might casual this season

& do W13

[shy hazel]

not rly

top 10 is ez for me tbh

[vague token]

still farming ch12 for junyou and azuma xp

[shy hazel]

i only managed to lose it once

[shell heron]

wasn't that time to me?

[sour oasis]

Top10 - just don't lose. 2500 is enough for an AotN.

[shell heron]

or did someone else push you out

[shy hazel]

ya i think that time

i dont sandbag now as much as before

i just bought switch lol

3 houses

im mking my harem rn

[sour oasis]

I still feel sandbag isn't an exact term for schedule tracking, but it's been grandfathered in so

[empty grove]

I learnt it as sniping when I started

[shy hazel]

its a tradition

the culture of #pvp

[shell heron]

it can also be called camping, or begging to some extent

[sour oasis]

Grandfathered

Begging sounds more accurate.

[vague token]

camping is more accurate

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

since you dont actually ask anyone to push unless they're here

xD

[shy hazel]

anyways sandbag will be sandbag

[empty grove]

Not like it requires effort

Just don't be an idiot

[sour oasis]

Because people are still actively tracking and updating.

[shy hazel]

true

[sour oasis]

It.. Does require effort.

[shy hazel]

hey i dont spreadsheet

[empty grove]

You have variation in your list early on

[shy hazel]

i just know who will push or not

who rushes early or late

[vague token]

and can check every hour ;)

[shell heron]

neither do I, but we know who are the sandbaggers at this point

[vague token]

peco power

[empty grove]

You try to match with oath/non oath & noob/veteran

[sour oasis]

I rarely have PvP list variation

[empty grove]

Covers bases for a lot of people

[shell heron]

so by that logic, anyone not a sandbagger is a rusher

[shy hazel]

someone who doesnt get bonuses

is a loser

[empty grove]

The irony is I don't have a spreadsheet either

[shell heron]

I wonder who has a spreadsheet?

[sour oasis]

I just sit on player level 100+ with oathed flex fleet... And they... Don't... Move.

[empty grove]

Ofc not

That's likely a sandbagger

[sour oasis]

No, they don't move ever. Like for 20 tickets.

[empty grove]

Why are you waiting on someone over multiple rounds

[shell heron]

you have refreshes

[sour oasis]

Sand baggers move in at least the last 30 minutes

[shell heron]

if nobody moves in 2 hours

[sour oasis]

I was experimenting

[shell heron]

you might want to consider refreshing your list

[empty grove]

Nah

I wouldn't refresh in 2 hours

That's when you can get people who have already pushed

[shell heron]

fair point

[shy hazel]

i move on early resets

[empty grove]

Better a single bonus than 0 due to a shit refresh

[shy hazel]

so not me

[shell heron]

not like we ever do full pushes

or at least not until the last 10 minutes

[sour oasis]

Ugh. This would be more sane with matchmaking, collaboration scheduling, or no flex fleets.

[vague token]

if we had that, we'd need balanced boats

xD

[shell heron]

and ban lists

Amagi's already on that list

[sharp wing]

Eldridge

[shell heron]

what are we MOBA now with pick bans

[empty grove]

Juneau being banned

[sharp wing]

Nanoda banned

[sour oasis]

I still think removing ladder and merit gains after achieving AotN is the easiest fix.

[sharp wing]

All hail ShigureKai

[vague token]

personally, id like juneau to be buffed to 35%, but pearls tear cant trigger if you have juneau

[shy hazel]

tbh

[vague token]

and tear buffed to 35%

[shy hazel]

sandbagging is just about consistency

[vague token]

so you can either use juneau to have an extra aux, or use anyone

[sour oasis]

Juneau kai

[shy hazel]

lots of seasons i had crap starts

but still on top

[empty grove]

Juneau kai

[shy hazel]

[empty grove]

Creates an overheal shield

[hot creek]

make juneau heal only work for USS ships. ez

[empty grove]

[shy hazel]

no jnu means

everyone uses torp memes

[empty grove]

Ibuki banned too

[shy hazel]

so u might as well ban all torp memes

[empty grove]

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

i mean they could just boost the hp multiplier more

[sharp wing]

Dun touch buki

[vague token]

so frontloaded damage isnt king

[shy hazel]

in fact ban all ships so no one pvps

[sour oasis]

PvP with only normal rarity ships?

[empty grove]

Stop me Sagi

[vague token]

and make it so long fight builds are more valuable

[shell heron]

i'd be down for torp memes. a match is decided on the first wave of torps

[empty grove]

[sharp wing]

I told Taihoe

[empty grove]

Ohh shit

I'm out

[sharp wing]

[sour oasis]

Strategy of checking PvP ladder every 1 or 2 hours is... Consuming.

[shy hazel]

anyways

ban ships will never happen

[empty grove]

Also

[shy hazel]

cos that means they lose profit

[empty grove]

Top 10 EOS is just personal flex

[shy hazel]

why would i oath a banned ship

[vague token]

also exercise will never change xD

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

for pve

duh

[empty grove]

All you need in pvp is gensui for merits

[vague token]

and a png

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

pve is for memers like kiro

[shell heron]

we get a few minutes of glory here

[shy hazel]

im almost done with pve btw

[shell heron]

and poke at all the losers that didn't make top 10

[sour oasis]

[shell heron]

[shy hazel]

last pr then w14

oops 13

[empty grove]

I abandoned PR

[sharp wing]

[empty grove]

I'll finish gascan during an event

[sharp wing]

I abandoned PR after My Wife

It will finish itself

[shell heron]

I would be working on PR2

[shy hazel]

ill have all prs in 4 days

[empty grove]

I left Roon for ages too

[shy hazel]

[shell heron]

but I already finish Seattle and everyone else is not smart for ch13

[sharp wing]

Abandoning Roon is scary

[vague token]

id like to try kitakaze

but im also biased towards mgm+1

[sharp wing]

U are biased memer

[empty grove]

This is my PR experience

[shell heron]

oddly, kitakaze isn't bad.

[vague token]

why is that odd?

[shell heron]

torp VG worked pretty well

[vague token]

she has a gun that ignores armor

plus torp barrage

xD

[shy hazel]

u need ktkz in w13

[shell heron]

I mean the exp grind

[vague token]

oh ok

[shy hazel]

ktkz with sandy

[empty grove]

I've been using aya for clear on W13

[shy hazel]

[empty grove]

Works well enough

[vague token]

ijn vanguard is ez

im using mogami, noshiro, shiranui

xD

[sharp wing]

[empty grove]

You can't stop my aya

[sharp wing]

I see Magical Girl Sara

[shy hazel]

ayamommy

[forest lake]

[empty grove]

I love seeing +0 when clearing tbh

[forest lake]

[empty grove]

[vague token]

the superior sara skin

[forest lake]

[vague token]

[shy hazel]

ppl still use that god forsaken gun

[empty grove]

I like seeing her barrage

[sharp wing]

every1 use that

[shell heron]

using aya for gun damage

[sour oasis]

Isn't there a faster barrage gun?

[sharp wing]

no

[vague token]

for dd? no

that one is the fastest

[sour oasis]

[empty grove]

There's one with more range

[sharp wing]

also using it on nanoda, poi, kawaiikaze in pve

single 120 has more range but slower

[empty grove]

Yep

[shell heron]

you mean that single 120? they're both about the same tbh

[empty grove]

[sharp wing]

i prefer 76

[vague token]

if only that 360 angle cl gun wasnt slow

[sharp wing]

range rarely issue

[vague token]

=(

[sharp wing]

what?

singlr 150 is 360

[empty grove]

I only ever use aya on manual anyway

[vague token]

what? single 150 is 120

the only 360 angle cl gun is the single 140mm

[shy hazel]

they should release a faster pr dd gun

with actual stat

[sharp wing]

I remember they both were 360

[vague token]

i checked in game and on wiki, both say 120

[sharp wing]

well

[vague token]

but well, you know how it is

xD

https://gyazo.com/058366dcba24ab17f195c34a50288022

[sharp wing]

120 is still better than most

[vague token]

120 is normal

only the pr cl guns dont have 120

seattle and nepgun are both 115

literally all others are 120

[shell heron]

I still don't know how I feel about the single 150 vs nepgun on noshi

[vague token]

minus the 140 which is 360

nepgun is like double the reload

[sharp wing]

150 for barrage spam

[vague token]

no reason to bother with her okay tier fp

when you can spam 4 torpedos

xD

but yeah, 120 is the Standard Angle

everything that doesnt have 120 is weird

like this guy:
https://gyazo.com/e6a46656572e8c842ee3804145064a2d

xD

[sharp wing]

everything top tier atm not 120

[vague token]

i mean nepgun and seattle gun have grossly overperforming stats and ammo

so

like why would you ever use that 360 gun (the better one)

it has 4.72 base reload

and does 3x13 damage

lul

[sharp wing]

the problem is it's not single shot

[vague token]

yeah .3 volley time too

[empty grove]

I like the AP passthrough on the nepgun

[sharp wing]

which it's supposed to be

[empty grove]

[sharp wing]

I like the weird converging pattern on nepgun and seattlegun

[vague token]

converging is nice

[empty grove]

Same

So seattlegun is just the nepgun with a red bullet?

In aesthetics

[sharp wing]

it's more tight

but ye

[empty grove]

I'd know if PR stopped being a bitch

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

HE++

big light armor damage

more damage on heavy than ap+

xD

[sharp wing]

well, low caliber AP ammo is trash

[vague token]

oh i guess it only improves medium/heavy compared to HE+

[sharp wing]

vs heavy

[vague token]

yeah i hope they update the ammo help page

considering it isnt accurate

for half the gun tiers

azuma gun also same mod as CA AP xD

on heavy

[sharp wing]

It's better to comapre her to another CB gun

[vague token]

ah yes, the 283

let me know when shark retro shows up

[sharp wing]

they are basically different tiers with CA guns

[vague token]

and i can take it out of the trash bin

[sharp wing]

Sharks are gneis and her sister

tbh pocket battleships just came too early, if they released em now, they could be CBs

The idea probably wasn't even around

[vague token]

rip power creep

[sharp wing]

Retro to CBs would still work

But it would like...

[vague token]

+3000 hp from a retro

jk

[sharp wing]

No I mean... It would look like an attempt to redeem themselves

[vague token]

oh you mean the optics

[sharp wing]

No I mean like from dev standing on the matter

Yeah, ok, this was a bad idea, let's make up for it

[vague token]

that is optics

aka how it looks

[sharp wing]

If pocket battleships had at least prinz tier hp

but just had actual damage output

[vague token]

i mean, 35% damage with azuma gun

would be usable

if they had ~6k hp

[sharp wing]

they are just paper

[vague token]

not like amazing

just solid

[sharp wing]

only boast highest FP in CA circles

being not gunboats

[vague token]

even if they were balti would get her +12%

xD

[hot creek]

did they ever sell ring packs on valentine's day?

[vague token]

i thought they did

[hot creek]

nice

[sharp wing]

sure thing

[sharp wing]

Lol, I just noticed, Dido holds Siri doll

Her assets make it hard to see

[vague token]

so that's who the doll is

xD

[sharp wing]

OwO thighs maid

[ionic magnet]

those thighs are long af

[hot creek]

damn, you aren't lying.

[sharp wing]

80% legs

That's how anatomy works

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

Can't deny that new underboobies HMS trend too

[vague token]

just hoping she has cool skills

gotta use the power of darkness for maximum edge

[sharp wing]

She is meh

tho sheffield also town class

[vague token]

wait dido or a different one

[sharp wing]

I mean last one?

[vague token]

oh

[sharp wing]

elite town class

Dido should be good

[vague token]

either she'll be similar to sheffield

or garbo

[sharp wing]

probably garbo

[vague token]

there's like a billion "town" class ships

[sharp wing]

newcastle at least buffer

[vague token]

glasgow is just ok

newcastle has two buffs

edinburgh is classic tank

southampton is bad

xD

as far as basic smoke cls go she is definitely not good lol

[sharp wing]

southampton is cheap tako

wait

[vague token]

?

[sharp wing]

confused her with something

[vague token]

hms southampton is just smoke and reload order

_>

[sharp wing]

there similar USS bote I think

[vague token]

probably

im pretty sure she's just straight up worse than leander kai

[sharp wing]

rianda is carry

[vague token]

45 less fp

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

lel

yeah southampton and naka need retros

except naka is event only and southampton is login reward

xD

rip

[sharp wing]

Oh, I confused her with Shropshire

cheap Tako

[vague token]

isnt she like one of the starting ships with long island

[sharp wing]

sussex too basically

2 double gun torpbote cas

but they are also london class, so light armored

[vague token]

i mean CAs were glass cannons back in ye olden days

just a cl with big gun

xD

[sharp wing]

well, some classes

[vague token]

i mean in gameplay

[sharp wing]

Dorsetshire is County class too

with her sister norfolk

[vague token]

i feel like 60% of old CAs were like sub 4k hp at 100

[sharp wing]

light amored ye

[vague token]

with like half having 24 evade and half having 30~

[sharp wing]

at lvl 100 all basic CAs succ anyway

till kais and Kizu

[vague token]

i think even at 120 it's about 50/50 breaking 4k hp

[sharp wing]

I mean at 120 they get around 80 EVA in general

sat 100 they are 20-30

aside few kais and some collab

[vague token]

well, only the better ones hit 80 eva

120 evade is all over the place

[sharp wing]

well, hit around 70 at least

[vague token]

50% are sub 70

[sharp wing]

southampton 67, but she is rare

and like very vanilla

mostly USS CAs have problems there, like Wichita

[vague token]

suffolk retro is 65 evasion

[sharp wing]

50 eva

[vague token]

xD

uss CAs are all over also

cause skills lol

[sharp wing]

well, light armored ones

gunboates

they succ in defense

wichita houston chicago and alike

[vague token]

yeah but they're all power creeped by the great baltimore

4.5k hp, 15% evasion boost

xD

[sharp wing]

balti is paper tho

[vague token]

not really

she's respectable

[sharp wing]

57 eva

[vague token]

+15% for that and gear

you dont use her with eagle cvs ;)

[sharp wing]

if no carriers

[vague token]

no, just eagle

use hms cvs

;)

top fp of all CAs

huge bulk

[sharp wing]

I take Mogamin over most CAs anyday

[vague token]

balti also has a usable luck stat

unlike 80% of CAs

which are all terrible

xD

[sharp wing]

well, if we take all cas, balti will be around middle luck

[vague token]

except that out of all the 70+ luck ships

there's like only 2 or 3 good ones

the rest are meme

[sharp wing]

60+

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

balti doesn't break 60 even

[vague token]

like london is ok

[sharp wing]

zara, minne

portland

[vague token]

minne doesnt hold up nowadays

and portland doesnt have the damage

zara is solid though

[sharp wing]

well, good CAs nowadays are PR w/ 0 luck so ye

[vague token]

xD

baltimore is basically the perfect DPS:EHP ratio cause of her ammo + free fp buff

plus noshiro boost

[sharp wing]

stop memeing

[vague token]

i only stop when i sleep

kinda wish baltimore hit 100 on heavy

would be fun

cause they give her armor break chance for whatever reason

[sharp wing]

I wish pocket battleships were not meme

[meager dawn]

wdym? azuma isn't a meme

[vague token]

she isnt pocket xD

[sharp wing]

Azuma isn't even kms

[inner zenith]

azuma is life

[blazing scroll]

Fatzuma

[sharp wing]

She is oppai, but slim

Now to think of it, we should get yat sen rerun

or even whole lunar new year rerun

with curacoa cerlew and cn DDs

[ripe latch]

china wall on pvp

[sharp wing]

well, since they announced their retroes and yat sen skin, we are getting it

But Dido and other botes are also limited construction...

10+ botes limited

[ionic magnet]

17 freaking new skins this patch

[sharp wing]

and rerun old skins

like Cent qipao

I mean this is 2019 year event construction

we getting 4 more ships

or they just gonna perma old ships

[ionic magnet]

https://i.redd.it/ywsqdruwewb41.png

imagine if sirius skin is l2d

[sharp wing]

Waiting WC archive for Siri L2D

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

But that image is lacking

either perma ships should be much more

or there more events

chaser, maids and Yat are all not in perma yet

well, I gues that's for EN only

cn/jp should already have them perma

[forest lake]

Amazon prime

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

skin kinda meh...

[ionic magnet]

got reason to use her in w13 now

[sharp wing]

her vanilla better, lol

Shiyo...

[ionic magnet]

thats how she won CN popularity poll

[ripe latch]

new ibuki skin

[blazing scroll]

@sharp wing thank you, been telling people the same

[sharp wing]

about what

[high bay]

your words of wisdom

[ashen lion]

[meager dawn]

wdym

I have time to do 5 exercises for muh merits

[high bay]

exercise in the morning is good in keeping purin supply

[meager dawn]

[high bay]

[sharp wing]

wdym I go to bed in the morning

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

[blazing scroll]

Sleep, what's that?

[sharp wing]

[ashen lion]

[manic kettle]

I have a question regarding BB's aux gear. How important is Hit rate for PvP. Do people run SG radars or just Double shell on all of them. I'm asking since i noticed alot of my BB's shots missing on the enemy backlines

[ionic magnet]

we dont use shells in pvp
unless its warkai or someone with a crit rate skill that can abuse shells

usually its rudder+SG or 2x SG

with hfcr mixed if you have it

and yea hit is very useful

[manic kettle]

ah i thought so, tyvm i assume warkai is 2 shells tho right?

[ionic magnet]

just one

[manic kettle]

allright, tyvm

[ionic magnet]

the other aux should be rudder or SG or hfcr

[zenith tundra]

next event has 2 elite ships in light build

[sharp wing]

gotta see what EN does with last new year event limited shps yet

yat, chaser and maids are not perma on en yet

[zenith tundra]

in jp they just added 2 to perma

[sharp wing]

jp had old event ships already perma

they added CN DDs

EN yet to have any lunar new year ships perma

[zenith tundra]

i think they should add them

[sharp wing]

they gotta perma them, cause retroes

and yat skin

[zenith tundra]

i don't think en build will be much different

it's about whatever they add cn dd or not to perma

[sharp wing]

it's not about CN DDs

it's about hms

and yat sen

[red nexus]

Guys anyone knows how the meta will change when the new PR ships are fully developed?

[sharp wing]

All these ships from lunar new year not perma on EN

You just stick Azuma with juneau and nanoda

all meta

right after dev 15, just need to have her gun

in half year add FdG to Namagi

[zenith tundra]

fdg will shift to bb full bb comps pretty much

[sharp wing]

FdG needs dev 30

[zenith tundra]

namagi fdg is not the main comp with fdg

ws fdg does way better

[sharp wing]

on offense ye

on meta def still namagifdg

on offense even WFC can do better than namagi

[zenith tundra]

i think suruga amagi fdg is better then namagi fdg for stalling

wfc doesn't beat namaryuu consistency ever

[sharp wing]

[red nexus]

So fdg replacing warkai?

[zenith tundra]

more like u put them together and gg

1sec fire plus ws snipe is even better then amagi + ws focus

[sharp wing]

amagi mainly used for def buff w/ FdG

not for damage

[zenith tundra]

i was comparing ws amagi with ws fdg

since he said to replace ws with fdg

[sharp wing]

more like ws amagi fdg vs amagi fdg X

Also this new year event delays CE rerun yet again

And EN still needs to run collab in Q1

[forest lake]

FWrerun

[sharp wing]

forget it

[zenith tundra]

the only real ship that works with amagi fdg is nagato, so it's namagi fdg vs ws amagi fdg and the 2nd has a much easier time

[forest lake]

[sharp wing]

wc and fw only archive

for def we will have easier time with non Nagato comps

anyway

[zenith tundra]

wait till u see ws amagi fdg defense

that ws fdg focus is pretty nuts

[sharp wing]

ws def is pretty meme

and FdG has no marking

[zenith tundra]

she is but paired with fdg barrages and 457 it's not that easy

my dev 29 fdg sets 850 fires with barrage against non amagi teams

[sharp wing]

non amagi teams

[zenith tundra]

wfc

who do u even snipe with wfc with amagi mid and ws fdg on the sides

[sharp wing]

fc def is meme dood

[zenith tundra]

i mean offense rn

wfc doesn't have amagi to reduce fire damage

[sharp wing]

wait, u said YR FdG against non amagi teams

now you say not def

[zenith tundra]

yeah but that also applies to defense

[sharp wing]

meme def ye...

[zenith tundra]

that comp is far from a meme

[sharp wing]

on def it is

like any carrier team

[zenith tundra]

wfc won't easily beat amagi ws fdg on offense

nothing to snipe and have to put heavy defense on 1 carrier to tank focus

[red nexus]

So, what guns do you want to be using, since we got a few new ones

[sharp wing]

anything that can only use CL guns use new pr2 gun

nagato can use new twin 406

and bbs like ws new rainbow gun

[red nexus]

I see

[sharp wing]

which will take you half year to farm

so GL

[red nexus]

[sharp wing]

^ this emote best way to describe pr 2

[midnight heron]

theres already someone on sandy using 120 azuma

[zenith tundra]

u can use her as long as she is leveled but without her gun and some good dev level it's not worth

[finite valve]

wallet rapper for new year

💳

[sharp wing]

well, so

they added cn dds, yat sen to perma and new ships limited banner, but where are other last year ships, lol
Chaser, maids, Mullany, Kimberly

[zenith tundra]

if i have to guess they will be added to prrma in 1-2 months

[sharp wing]

funny tho, they release maids retroes

But maids not available

[zenith tundra]

people have them from last year

[sharp wing]

well, there many ppl who didn't play since then

in fact, majority

[zenith tundra]

retros in en are weird anyway

[sharp wing]

population constantly shifting

[zenith tundra]

they don't even follow original order releases

[sharp wing]

There released HMS event DDs with retro anyway...

acasta and ardent

they also only event on EN and not available atm

[small cypress]

Best gear for ayanami

?

[zenith tundra]

single 76mm, gold quad mag, any gold aa, oxy toolbox

or pearl instead of toolbox if no one else uses it

[sharp wing]

100mm if there any carriers for aa to reduce avi damage

and if u got second rainbow quint, she can hold them, tho she rarely lives to make second launch

nanoda priority for sure 2-3 launches

But if she is only DD, give it to her

[untold wharf]

is wfc good enough to commit to

i wanna oath my ships and stuff and get to work on maxing them out but im still stuck debating if i should wait for nagato and amagi to commit to something

[sharp wing]

well, the thing is... Warkai can work in any offense comp basically

either u go NamagiWarkai or later warkai amagi FdG or similar

You can also wait for Namagi and make NamagiFdG in the future...

[untold wharf]

would wfc be able to beat namagifdg or nah