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proper thistle
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On whom

ionic magnet
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but needs different ships

proper thistle
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Ah

ionic magnet
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generally you put beaver on backline

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cos they benefit the most from extra eva

proper thistle
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I see

ionic magnet
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and you dont want to put it on VGs cos they die faster
hence dispelling the buff from beaver

proper thistle
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Not owning all the limited meta ships is slightly annoying

ionic magnet
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i missed nagato i know the feeling

vague token
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just try dork/amagi/ws like me

coral wren
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Where should I but beaver and the pearl then

ionic magnet
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he doesnt have amagi either

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put pearl on your lead VG or the middle one depending on your setup

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beaver goes to flagship if you dont have rudder yet

coral wren
ionic magnet
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no not that

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this one

coral wren
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Where can I get that one

ionic magnet
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well can only get from fallen wings event

coral wren
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It doesn't appear in the crafting menu

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Oh ok

ionic magnet
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yea you need to hope for rerun

empty grove
ionic magnet
coral wren
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Well that sucks

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Oh and I have Yukikaze but I need to lvl her

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But her equip is OK right

ionic magnet
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good now replace prinz

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twin 100mm/rainbow magtorp/bofors/boiler/fire ex

coral wren
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Bofors what's that

ionic magnet
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AA gun

proper thistle
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Anti air

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The 40mm twin usually

coral wren
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This one

proper thistle
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No

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It's in crafting

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Looks like a box

ionic magnet
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yea thats it

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well the other is staag bofors

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its technically better

proper thistle
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Wait you want this one? squint
Thought the other one was bis

ionic magnet
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but its kind of a waste since you only have few of those

proper thistle
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Ah

ionic magnet
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BBs use it and CAs want that too

coral wren
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I feel like a bloody newby

ionic magnet
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DDs dont benefit from extra hit stat so they are fine with regular bofors

proper thistle
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Makes sense

ionic magnet
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its this one

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put that on ykkz
then put the STAAG on your BB

coral wren
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BB is Hood right

ionic magnet
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oh right shes BC

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but yea

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put it on hood EntyLUL

coral wren
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Is there still something what I should change

ionic magnet
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yea twin 100mm+rainbow magtorp+boiler+fire ex for ykkz

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for hood jsut replace autoloader with beaver

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or SG

coral wren
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Don't have fire ex but I have boiler

ionic magnet
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its easy to farm one go get it BuckySmug

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its BiS on ykkz

coral wren
vague token
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i mean you can get FE in box

coral wren
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Bis???

vague token
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and you get a billion purple boxes

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best in slot

ionic magnet
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oh yea

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just try opening boxes

coral wren
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Something like that

ionic magnet
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well you'll get one eventually

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just swap when you get it BuckySmug

coral wren
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Should I let the torps for the meantime

ionic magnet
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just use toolbox

coral wren
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Got only those

ionic magnet
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oxytorps are only really useful on ibuki and maybe jintsuu with torp memes

coral wren
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Should I take the torps from Ayanami and give it yuki

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Those are magnetic

ionic magnet
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well depends if you use aya a lot

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but id say yea

coral wren
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Not really

ionic magnet
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yea its better on yuki then

coral wren
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But main gun is good or what

vague token
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dont use MLE on ykk

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she has sub 100 fp

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and 75% gun efficiency

ionic magnet
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yea twin 100mm

vague token
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aka literally unable to do gun damage

ionic magnet
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or 76mm

coral wren
vague token
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personally i dont use oxy on ykk cause she needs all the hp she can get

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i use double boiler xD

ionic magnet
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now farm for fire ex and remove that ugly oxytorp BuckySmug

coral wren
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Ok

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Where can I farm those

ionic magnet
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2-3

vague token
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fe is in eagle box too?

ionic magnet
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any techbox iirc

vague token
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oh no it's any

ionic magnet
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yea

vague token
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that's convenient

coral wren
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Have no tecbox left

vague token
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for FE you want purple boxes

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since gold wont drop it

coral wren
vague token
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im pretty sure it doesnt add much to her

coral wren
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Well yeah it's only +3

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So 33 hp

vague token
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i meant the evasion

coral wren
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But that you get every 20 sec 0 dmg

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For 2 sec

ionic magnet
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wait you have rudder

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put that on hood

coral wren
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Ok

shell heron
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ykk already has that 25% chance of reducing damage to 1

ionic magnet
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put toolbox or another boiler for now on ykkz
til you get fire ex

coral wren
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Sorry but I don't get some of the stuff here so I know not mutch

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Ok

shell heron
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just know that we generally don't look to add more evasion to DDs

shell heron
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heavy diminishing returns on high evasion

coral wren
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And which ruder should I give hood

vague token
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going past like 200 evasion is overkill and adds marginal evasion rate

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RIP hms dds

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all 230 evasion or w/e

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buffed higher with qe

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lel

shell heron
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the PR one

coral wren
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Ok

coral wren
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Still something which I should change on hood

ionic magnet
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well she wants hfcr but thats only from event

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thats fine now

coral wren
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Secondary is OK too

ionic magnet
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yea

coral wren
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Bel is next

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Something I should change

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I write everything down right now

ionic magnet
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just better magtorp really

shell heron
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I'm honestly liking boiler/bulge more nowadays

shell heron
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that small periodic heal from toolbox don't have too much of an impact with how short each match last

ionic magnet
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yea

ionic magnet
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but boiler is more of a preference thing so WarShrug

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just need more or less 2 boilers for a 2CL 1DD setup

coral wren
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???

ionic magnet
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oh wait you're using eldridge

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yea just go boiler

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25 spd on a DD PortDoll

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atleast until you get pearl

coral wren
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??? What now you said I should change elldrigde vs Yuki

ionic magnet
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you want yuki+jun+bel

coral wren
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Don't know

ionic magnet
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i mean thats the standard setup

shell heron
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jun/(fill ship)/yuki is already a standard setup

ionic magnet
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all you have to know is the best VG setup rn is juneau+ykkz+(any decent bote)

vague token
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aurora/sheffield/belfast are the common ones

coral wren
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Wanted to make an Sakura Empire pvp fleet but neet Nagato for that and I missed her

vague token
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actually sheffield isnt that common

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xD

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im pretty sure only people from this channel use sheffield

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;)

shell heron
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I remember someone here running that for a while smugBucky

ionic magnet
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yea havent met another sheff aside from blue

blazing scroll
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Daxam never used sheff?

ionic magnet
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hes sandy

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and hes ded

blazing scroll
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True

coral wren
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I just had luck that I still got the retrofit material for warspite and sandy

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And have still to get the monarch

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From the pr ships

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Is there still something missing

ionic magnet
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just pearl

coral wren
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As exchange for torp bulk

ionic magnet
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no replace boiler (assuming shes your lead VG)

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if shes in the middle then replace bulge

ionic magnet
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replace cata with beacon or rudder/beaver

coral wren
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Ok

blazing scroll
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Mine uses rudder + jet fuel

ionic magnet
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no no

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rudder+oil tank

blazing scroll
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Replace the steam catapult

ionic magnet
ionic magnet
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then when you get avgas from core shop

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replace oil tank

coral wren
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A gas what's that

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Avgas

ionic magnet
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100/150 aviation fuel

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oh its aviation gasoline

coral wren
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??? Where do I get that

still minnow
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EN can't read

blazing scroll
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Core shop

coral wren
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Buyed one

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So Enterprise is finished right

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What does she need

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Or should I take some other cv

ionic magnet
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if you want to be competitive then yea replace her

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eldridge too

coral wren
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What should I take

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In place for lusty

ionic magnet
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formi/cent/amagi

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maybe even essex

coral wren
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I have all

ionic magnet
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check pinned tierlist first i guess

coral wren
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Where

ionic magnet
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3rd one in there

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then see if you like anything

coral wren
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...

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Don't understand it

ionic magnet
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you have warspite retro right?

coral wren
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Yeah

ionic magnet
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there

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if you really want to be competitive your best bet is warspite/formi/cent (atleast from the tested ones)

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but your current setup should still be decent as long as you have warspite

coral wren
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I mean I could get them but until I have them at lvl 120 is probably a new meta out

ionic magnet
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not really

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it will atleast take 4 months for someone to max pr2 botes

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or was it 6 months idr

coral wren
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And I don't have enough bullins for limit break

ionic magnet
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and the only thing that will change in 6 months is azuma

ionic magnet
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well yea just stick with lusty for now i guess

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but level those 3 plus juneau BuckySmug

coral wren
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Wich color dues Juneau have rarity color

blazing scroll
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Blue da ba dee

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She's rare

vestal compass
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I was thinking if she really need rudders.

hot creek
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rudder or beaver

vestal compass
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seems overkill but alright. thank you.

vague token
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on main fleets it isnt overkill

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rudder alone is like 110% increase in evasion

vestal compass
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I see, i cant decide my fleet, its hard since I missed out Nagato event.

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My frontline is okay, I cant decide who should I pair up with Amagi since I'm lacking units( mainly levels I guess ), I think

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Any pointers?

vague token
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ws over enterprise probably

vestal compass
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Wont the level difference be too big?

vague token
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oh, i mean eventually sorry

vestal compass
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Ah alright, is level 110 enough to replace it?

vestal compass
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Cool, thank you.

lament lichen
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Just use warspite , free exp in pvp

midnight heron
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not sure how some guy's vg can take 3 backline salvos and not get burned but ok sure

elfin summit
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Hello, I have a scoring question

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according to https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Exercise , I should get at least 12 points as Captain

Azur Lane Wiki

Exercises, sometimes called Operations, Mock Battles or PvP Battles, are the portion of the game where the player's fleet is pitted against a fleet constructed by another player, with the goal to accumulate Merit and progress in Rank. Note that the attacking fleet will get a...

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where is the mistake?

hot creek
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its based off score not necessarily rank.

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since you're passed 1050 pt, base score is 10

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and since you beat someone with a +35 pt difference you got +1

coral wren
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how many points are you guys at?

midnight heron
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dat list confusing ppl cuz of rank score requirement for certain rank MutsukiCurse

elfin summit
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yep, wiki list look confusing in this regard Thinkpitz

midnight heron
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1223 1/10 WarShrug

elfin summit
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so it's no way to get base 12 anymore, tsc LaffeyDrink

coral wren
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I missed some exercises then

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fml

elfin summit
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should be nice

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thanks for explanations, @hot creek RenownThumbsUp

coral wren
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last season I forgot to do my last 5 and didn't get AoTN
PortDoll ๐Ÿ”ซ

midnight heron
jovial mural
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What would be the best kms stand alone mainfleet ship? Except fdg MutsukiCurse

ionic magnet
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new seattle skin eh

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meanwhile still no sanrui azuma and fdg skins

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talk about punishing pvp

blazing scroll
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Stand alone they're ๐Ÿšฎ

ionic magnet
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@jovial mural none stay away from kms

proper thistle
ionic magnet
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there's a rainbow and there's a gold

proper thistle
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Ah sadcatthumbsup

coral wren
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I heard the aviation fuel and homing beacon are for pvp. Are they good?

forest lake
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Gasoline BiS for CV/Ls, Beacon for timing

frail orbit
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@ionic magnet well pvp competition are basically pointless in their eye
As their aim is to get more peeps with waifuable taste

forest lake
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1206 5/10 Thinkpitz

blazing scroll
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Imagine devs putting new ships in Merit shop

forest lake
shell heron
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I am actually behind even Kanao UniSip

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1161 9/10

forest lake
shell heron
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Just wait til I get my neet life back. I'll sandbag my way to EoS top 10 again LaffeyDrink

coral wren
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Hi everyone how are you guys doing

latent birch
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missed 5 rounds cause im busy drawing loods again

coral wren
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@ionic magnet wait I just realized when I change to warspite centaur and Formi what should they equip then

elder crane
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What should who equip
Warspite should be either HSFCR triple 381 or no HSFCR 410AP/mk6
FC, just the same stuff they usually mount, so that Cent launches first and Formi about 1.5-2 s after

coral wren
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I have currently these equipped

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Because didn't know what I should equip

ripe latch
elder crane
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pretty sure 380 is garbage enough to not be worth mounting over mk6
SG is okay, FCR you'll want to swap for a gold shell once you get that

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twin381 AkagiLUL

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triple381 at least

ripe latch
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enemy oath amagi = dead

elder crane
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only when you face weaksauce teams

ripe latch
coral wren
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I have the mk6 currently on hood

elder crane
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Now, that's a setup that makes sense

coral wren
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Got some help yesterday from HooLooVoo

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That should be better now

elder crane
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aaaaa why twin381 on Warspite
you run it on Hood to spam her barrage
on warspite, it's not really doing anything LeanderXD
Take the mk6 or something at least

coral wren
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I just but the Same in as the Pic you sended

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What are the mk6 looks like

elder crane
ripe latch
elder crane
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ngl yes

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better than twin381 BuckySmug

ripe latch
coral wren
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Better now

elder crane
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Oh, you do have that
yeah, that gun's really good on warspite for nuking things

coral wren
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Still need to unlock the second skill LuluPout

elder crane
coral wren
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Don't have that one

ripe latch
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best gun BuckySmug

coral wren
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Mk6 or 381 AA gun. Iโ€™m really conflicted over this

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But I build those ships for pvp

empty owl
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Ah it worked

empty owl
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Um is anyone here willing to help me with my PvP fleet?

elder crane
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If it's particular questions, sure

empty owl
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Oh yay um I was just wondering if I could get better improvements for it

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Like different equipment or just ships

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Do you mind if I share?

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Um her skills help

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Is it a little overboard?

modest elbow
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300 eva GWcorbinMonkaGIGA

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200 is kinda too much already

empty owl
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Um what would you recommend

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Ok

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Any thing else for anyone?

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Ok

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Ok

ripe latch
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aurora PortDoll

empty owl
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I-I guess I have a lot of waifus ><

glacial shuttle
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Should I go Monarch or Hoodgun on Monarch Dev 30? I used Twin to get rid of Amagis fast but it's been kinda wonky with Namaspite fleets

ripe latch
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u can put saint or neptune

empty owl
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When your available of course

ionic magnet
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2 pings at 1 am UniGun

ripe latch
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@ionic magnet 3 UniGun

ionic magnet
ripe latch
ionic magnet
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@glacial shuttle wdym by wonky? twin 381 is good if you want to avoid rudder procs but yea triple 381 has more dmg overall especially when monarch doesn't proc her barrage

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nu Shockbuki

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@empty owl replace black and purple shells on your BBs with SG radar or rudder/beaver

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same with that autoloader on monarch

empty owl
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Ok

ionic magnet
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if you have nepguns they're better as aux guns too

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else better put belguns

empty owl
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Nepguns?

ionic magnet
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er i forgot the real name lol

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sec

empty owl
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Ok

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But for Warspite the black and white shells let her do around 7k damage

ionic magnet
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PR gun

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warspite needs to survive she already has tons of dmg

vague token
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she's pretty tanky too xD

ionic magnet
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or alternatively she needs to hit

vague token
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it helps when you have 90 luck and most bbs dont break 50

ionic magnet
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not really especially when you put her as flag

vague token
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or rather amagi has no luck xD

ionic magnet
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anyways still better than black shell

vague token
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and hiryuu has 36

ionic magnet
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not a fan of white shell too tbh but that atleast makes more sense

empty owl
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You want me to use the 152 on Belfast?

glacial shuttle
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I'm starting to hate Namaspite

vague token
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triple 152 pr is for bbs

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because the range

empty owl
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Ohhh

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Ok

vague token
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you use belgun on belfast

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until seattle gun

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i guess?

empty owl
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Belgun is the 155?

vague token
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uh

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i think so

ionic magnet
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yea triple 155

vague token
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triple 155 mounted gun

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in en

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had to check game

ionic magnet
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and if you have twin/triple 381 thats better on monarch

empty owl
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The French one or British?

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Or um AP or HE

ionic magnet
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its HE

hoary pasture
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is the triple 410mm AP gun better on warspite kai than the triple 406?

ionic magnet
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british yea

empty owl
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Ok

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A

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Anything else?

ionic magnet
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@hoary pasture if you have other BBs than can use HE gun for burns, triple 410 should be better otherwise stick with triple 381 or 406

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@empty owl i assume you lead with belfast?

empty owl
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Umu

ionic magnet
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give her bulge + toolbox/boiler

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aurora gets pearl+boiler/bulge

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fortune toolbox/boiler

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other gears are fine i guess

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just get more magtorps

empty owl
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Ok

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Oh what else should I give QE she already has a SG

glacial shuttle
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White AP / Rudder

ionic magnet
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2nd SG or rudder/beaver

empty owl
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Rudder?

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I don't think that's on yet

ionic magnet
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er the gold steering wheel

glacial shuttle
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Washmachine

ionic magnet
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the one you have on fortune

empty owl
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Ohhhh

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Ok

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Sorry

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Do u think I should get Neptune to replace someone?

ionic magnet
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you need jun+ykkz if you want to be competitive

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atleast one of them

empty owl
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I don't know who they are ^^'

ionic magnet
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both better

elder crane
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Nep+Jun+Ykkz for Warret+QE team, is probably what you want to move towards

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Juneau and Yukikaze

ionic magnet
empty owl
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Oh ok

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I have both Yukikaze is a higher level

ripe latch
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jun + ws kai
ZkkBore

glacial shuttle
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I shouldn't use Neptune before dev30 right

ionic magnet
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she's useable at dev25

vague token
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she doesnt get MGM+1 at dev 30

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so not as big of a deal compared to roon/sanrui

empty owl
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Is Belfast still competitive?

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What do you mean refresher

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Oh ok

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I always thought her smoke counters the fox sisters

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At least from my experience

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So I should replace my whole front line ?

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<

glacial shuttle
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kinda late but Dev20 no, but maybe try Dev25?

still minnow
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has anyone tested VH armor vs. warkai?

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on a ship that has heavy to begin with

upper sparrow
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so if i use warkai with formi-cent she should equip 406mk6, if warkai with another BB with HE shell use triple410mm?

ionic magnet
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i mean there's little point in using VH armor if the bote is already heavy

still minnow
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people keep saying that but I haven't seen any numbers, dw though I'm testing rn

ionic magnet
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@upper sparrow yes i personally like triple 381 over 406

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its easy to calculate eHP

elder crane
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I take 410AP either way for better sniping potential

ionic magnet
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you're better off using rudder

elder crane
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The bonus on heavy armor is literally inconsequential
even SG radar gives about +10% eHP

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so, the thing it gives that really matters is the HP boost
but that's still much lower %-wise than rudder

still minnow
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For lvl 113 formi w/ beaver badge vs. lvl 120 warkai:
+4 VH armor:

  1. 45%
  2. 60%
  3. 45%
  4. 85%
  5. 50%
  6. 50%
  7. 90%
    Average: 61%

+10 Gold rudder:

  1. 55%
  2. 45%
  3. 80%
  4. 40%
  5. 95%
  6. 80%
  7. 50%
    Average: 63%
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looks more to me like the difference between the two is what's inconsequential

ionic magnet
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what are those percentages

still minnow
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this is in health % remaining after being hit

elder crane
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What's your +/- on those

still minnow
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so that would include the rng from stray forntline torps/shots

ionic magnet
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so thats between beaver and rudder?

elder crane
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I'm pretty sure sample size is too small for even +/-10% accuracy

still minnow
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between rudder and VH armor

elder crane
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which is literally the entire difference we're expecting

still minnow
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beaver is the constant

elder crane
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aka even if there was a +20% eHP, your test would be hard-pressed to tell the difference

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Yeah, roughly 9% standard deviation for that sample average

still minnow
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I love how whenever I prove anything people waaa about how the sample size is too small as if they're expecting me to run a test 250 times

elder crane
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you're proving nothing

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the sample size is too small to prove the effect you want to show

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that's the point

still minnow
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so how did you prove that rudder is suprior to VH?

elder crane
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by datamining game calculation formulas and using that

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there's no better way for small effects like this
the sample size needed is just too prohibitive

still minnow
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I was seeing the VH drop damage per shot from ~3200 to 2900

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that seems like a pretty big difference to me

ionic magnet
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there's just too much rng in this game
7 rounds wont cut it unless youre getting literally the same results
but seeing at your tests it can go from 40% to 90% which is just too random

upper sparrow
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emm wait why 381mm better than 406mk6 on warkai? 406 has the better damage right?

elder crane
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I don't believe you on 3.2k vs 2.9k from the exact same shell from the exact same ship
proof or it didn't happen

ionic magnet
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@upper sparrow mostly for syncing with formi and so she can help deal with enty being annoying at times

still minnow
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3200 *0.06 = 192... so 100 rng affecting my perception, and a 200 damage per shot decrease is within expectation

elder crane
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lol 100 RNG literally doesn't happen

upper sparrow
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ok thx

still minnow
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eating now, one sec

elder crane
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Anyways, I estimated that it literally takes about 50 fights to have a fairly good chance to determine a ~5% eHP difference, given the distribution of HP% you have there in those 14 samples @still minnow
which is about the eHP difference we expect to see
So... yeah, unless you're very dedicated, these sorts of small effects are almost impossible to determine by testing like that

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that's why we resort to calcs based off of datamined formulae

still minnow
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my best guess is that the issue is related to lvl 113 formi vs. 120 warkai

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iirc higher level ships bypass some evasion?

ionic magnet
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you dont want to run beaver+rudder anyways

elder crane
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Well
7 levels means +14% damage dealt, and ~3.5% less HP from PvP-specific HP multiplier, on top of stat differences

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so, yeah....

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also 0.7% hitrate, but in comparison to the effects I gave above, that's peanuts

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you're looking at your ship being over 20% less survivable than she would be at lv120

still minnow
#

that brings up another question I have lol

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people talk about warkai just deleting an enemy backliner

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but my underlevelled CV can tank it

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so I'm not entirely sure what thy're talking about

vague token
#

im pretty sure only QE warkai solo deletes

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because of the 2nd fp boost

ionic magnet
#

thats easy they dont use rudder or eva gears plus maybe theyre tanking with medium armor

vague token
#

and that

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i usually land only 1 shot of barrage

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but since i have dork to follow up

ionic magnet
#

i tried your setup but with monarch instead of amagi

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then i remembered why i ditched 3 BB comps

vague token
#

amagi is better

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team durability and flexible barrage

ionic magnet
#

yeah ig

vague token
#

why waste your 3rd bb on someone who only shoots across

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_>

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;)

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i feel like sanrui and monarch were the biggest baits

ionic magnet
vague token
#

id rather use bbkaga over monarch

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_>

ionic magnet
#

not sure about that
i still like monarch if i wanted to burst someone but now that warkai is here.. WarShrug

still minnow
#

anyone know how to lock the aspect ratio when resizing an image in paint.net?

elder crane
#

Well, also offense/defense difference
if your ship survives at <20% HP, as a defense team, it would not have survived

midnight heron
#

prob click the chain icon or w/e BuckySmug (havent used paint.net in forever ever since i switched to gimp)

still minnow
#

what made u decide to switch

elder crane
midnight heron
#

textboxes

vague token
#

why did you have that ready

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xD

midnight heron
still minnow
#

I hold shift

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xD

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yikers

elder crane
midnight heron
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lol

still minnow
#

I see the #pvp energy is still strong despite the moderators' best attempts at killing the channel

elder crane
#

by the power of the GOOGLE ALGORITHM!!!

upper sparrow
midnight heron
elder crane
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anyways, what mods AkagiLUL

still minnow
#

so much for the 8 mb upload size limit

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it's letting me do 13 mbs

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anyway apparently I don't fucking understand how to do auxes so I need help

yes I know the messers are triggering please don't get focused on them

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my goal for formie is to tank all the warkai to the end of the world so double tanking aux seems like the best plan for that to me

ashen lion
still minnow
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but apparently rudder + beaver is a bad idea so

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what auxes should I be using

vague token
#

i mean i feel like that should be plenty

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assuming even levels

still minnow
#

rudder & beaver?

vague token
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no the armor/beaver

still minnow
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I have an extra rudder that I could use

vague token
#

formi has her dr always active

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but she prefers hp

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technically

still minnow
#

so it's rudder + beaver vs. VH + beaver

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(unless there's a better tanking aux that I'm not aware of)

vague token
#

there isnt

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unless you meme with double holo gear

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aka dont do that

ashen lion
vague token
#

why must the dr holo gear be ASW =/

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it isnt even a depth charge

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nor a sonar

still minnow
#

since when is there rainbow holo gear

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oh you mean the lantern

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also on my forntline

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should I replace the torp bulges with boilers

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and have 5 boilers

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:D

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cause eldridge kinda slow asf

upper sparrow
#

1236 10/10 miss one attempt because enty with fking rudder proc, can i reach gensui PortDoll

vague token
#

if you're only down 1 match you can hit gensui no problem

midnight heron
#

rly depends on time of day u rushing

ripe latch
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stupid game mechanics , u cant\ win donater PortDoll

elder crane
#

Well, I've hit gensui with like, what, 7 or 8 matches missed
Early-season missed matches are pretty whatever anyways if you sandbag a bit, it's once you're into 2nd week that you really don't want to miss any

midnight heron
still minnow
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1203 0/10

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xD

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need to lvl my ships Thinkpitz

midnight heron
#

lvl ships in pvp

still minnow
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thats what im dooin

midnight heron
#

tfw only lvling sandy

still minnow
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lvling ships takes so long when u never play :/

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the most first world of first world problems clearly

midnight heron
still minnow
#

do I lvl pvp ships or do I lvl ibuki ships or do I lvl throwaway ships so I can mlb them and clear up my d*ck?

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hard questions

midnight heron
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i lvl pvp ships first BuckySmug fk pve

still minnow
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none of those are even pve xD

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they're all pvp related

midnight heron
#

as for throwaway ships i use commission

still minnow
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commissions are a good source of xp that could be used on my pvp fleet or ibuki grind fleet too

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so :/

midnight heron
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i find the proportion too small for ships past lvl 100

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need like 300 comms to even move 1 lvl if u dont count those dat giv >1000

ionic magnet
#

just put them in dorm + long comms
1 month or so and they're maxed

still minnow
#

I'm tlaking exclusively about the 1200 oil commish

ionic magnet
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levelled my subs that way

midnight heron
#

ic

still minnow
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and dorm xp too good point

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those slots are highly contested

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in dorm and 1200 oil comm

midnight heron
#

i lvl subs in pve only UniHurt send help

still minnow
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my problem is that my subs are high lvl but they have no fcking torpedo equips

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how do you dorks even get your torpedoes

ionic magnet
#

eh just do weekly sub raid

midnight heron
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jk i put them in dorm sometimes but once they get past 100 they never enter dorm again

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yea do those raids

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tho i got mine from sos

ionic magnet
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i only have 3 gold torps but doesnt really matter when white torps can clear just the same

ripe latch
#

still on 36 pos UniFlex

#

on how dev lvl saint can tank on pvp?

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25?

vague token
#

just for tank? 25

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she gets her last hp boost at dev 25

ripe latch
shell heron
#

Who was the saratoga person in #pvp again? UniSip

vague token
#

friendship ended with sara, now formidable is my best friend

coral wren
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i was hoping that they'd take it to 1 min mark.

proper thistle
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Picture taken Moments before disaster

coral wren
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i just accepted that defeat cuz its the manliest 1v1 ever

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yeah she died after that

proper thistle
coral wren
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its alright. my nanoda is brave

proper thistle
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Btw I'm still a scrub. What does losing in PvP do
You get half the merit it looks like. How is your rank affected?

coral wren
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you basically dont get any points

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decreasing your chance of reaching admiral of the navy rank

proper thistle
#

It resets your opponents though right ?

coral wren
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it does

proper thistle
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I'm never gonna compete for a good ranking anyway

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Not enough meta ships plus I'm weak

coral wren
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but there's no penalty in resetting before you get wiped

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i used to rely on the fox for pvp

shell heron
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The power of resets BuckySmug

coral wren
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it seems impossible now but eh. I'm only doing pvp to get points and spend it on boxes

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dont worry too much about it

proper thistle
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I run out of resets peepoHands

shell heron
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Refresh and resets are different

proper thistle
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Oh what do you mean then

coral wren
#

resetting means clicking that pause button and quitting the battle

shell heron
coral wren
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before you get defeated

proper thistle
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Ah right

coral wren
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theres no penalty

proper thistle
#

Yea I do that If i think I can get a win still

coral wren
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oh you got some good ships there

proper thistle
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But tbh a lot of these fights are lvl 120s

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And I just die

coral wren
#

its suicide to fight lvl 120s when you're under leveled

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just pick on someone your own power level

proper thistle
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No one like that around the rank I'm in I guess

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I run out of refreshes looking for opponents I can handle lol

coral wren
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it happens a lot but there's virtually nothing you can do about it atm

proper thistle
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Yea

coral wren
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pvp sucks

proper thistle
#

I have been trying to lvl some pvp ships
And hoping to get centaur

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Issue is im missing so many event ships

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That are meta

coral wren
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warkai, sandy, monarch

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hiryuu

proper thistle
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Don't have sword or mic

coral wren
#

oh

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shit

proper thistle
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I just got back yes

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So missed all the events

coral wren
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well try budget teams for a while

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im sure there's pinned guide in here somewhere

proper thistle
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Mmhm

coral wren
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but yeah dont get your hopes up in pvp. those people with no life will obviously keep on hogging the top spots no matter what you do

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im just a scrub rusher

proper thistle
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Yea I don't even care about that
Just want to get wins for merit

coral wren
#

you still get merit even if you get killed to death

proper thistle
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Right

coral wren
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just try to aim for the highest rank you can get

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until you reach a wall

proper thistle
#

Highest I got was to like 200 lol but yea no
Got lucky

coral wren
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im at 200 too so dont worry

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i usually rush to get top 1 for 5 mins

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but its a meme

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someone with a higher point will eventually take over

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sandbaggers

proper thistle
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Yea

coral wren
#

its also a good strat to sandbag if you have a weak team

proper thistle
#

I might go back to just fox spam

coral wren
#

do u have akaga?

proper thistle
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Kaga/Akagi ya

coral wren
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yeah just level them up

proper thistle
#

Would that work with hiryuu as a third

coral wren
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nope

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3 cvs is shit

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just cram a bb in there and you'll be alright

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until we get amagi event, just keep raising ur akaga

proper thistle
coral wren
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thts good

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The best team you can assemble with that collection is HMS with KGV/Monarch/Hood and Yukikaze/Belfast/Juneau.

proper thistle
#

I really need to get monarch up higher
She's so weak at dev 14

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That's my team rn yea @coral wren

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Monarch is really rippy though

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As she's still not finished

coral wren
#

You're not going to win much with underleveled ships anyway.

proper thistle
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Fair enough

#

Have been working on the vanguard this week

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Got Yuki/Bel/Jun to 90~ from below 30

coral wren
#

Right now I'm running Nakaga with Yuki, Aurora, and Sendai but I'm working on leveling and equipping a bunch of HMS ships.

proper thistle
#

I'm just hoping to get centaur from special build. Game please

coral wren
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Belfast and KVG are done. QE and Hood are almost there. Monarch is built but nowhere near ready. Warkai, Centaur, and Formidable are all getting close to the point where they might be ready soon.

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Juneau is almost done too.

proper thistle
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What do you consider done btw

coral wren
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I should work on Sheffield.

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120 with maxxed out best in slot equipment.

proper thistle
#

Reasonable use of the term done

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I'm shooting more for..... Viable?

ionic magnet
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forget levelling foxes if you dont have nagato/amagi

coral wren
#

Right now my Nakaga fleet is viable.

proper thistle
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Remember offhand how long ago those events were? @ionic magnet

ionic magnet
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hiryuu could work with foxes but i wont really recommend that as a long term comp

coral wren
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It's completely done with the exception of the 818 and avgas that I need to upgrade before installing.

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It's just several months of meta behind.

ionic magnet
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which events? @proper thistle

proper thistle
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For nagato and amagi

coral wren
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It works, but its heyday is long past.

ionic magnet
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well amagi should be coming soon (if not the next major event)

proper thistle
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Fingers crossed then I guess

coral wren
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You're better off not even worrying about IJN if you don't have one of the BBs.

ionic magnet
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she came out last jan

coral wren
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HMS is the new hot shit.

ionic magnet
#

as for nagato

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prolly 6 more months

proper thistle
#

The chance I'll be playing still in 6 months is real low tbh
I play for like a month or two then take a break

#

So that's saddening

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Oh well, is what it is

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Still real salty I missed warkai by literally a day

coral wren
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@ionic magnet wich of the ships should I use as flag

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I mean leadership

ionic magnet
#

what are you using again

coral wren
#

Centaur, Formi and what was it called

ionic magnet
#

warspite.

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?

coral wren
#

Yeah

ionic magnet
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default is warspite flag

coral wren
#

Ok

ionic magnet
#

but you want to aim hiryuu so sometimes you need to switch formi to flag

coral wren
#

Still got no Juneau

ionic magnet
#

if enemy hiryuu is at bottom

coral wren
#

I farm like hell for fire ex

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An get 0

ionic magnet
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you farming ch 2-3?

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should be easy its blue gear UniStare

ripe latch
coral wren
#

Ups forgot gear on her facepalm

ripe latch
#

farm sendai
@
50 juneau
PortDoll

coral wren
ionic magnet
#

just do 1:1
save oils ZeppyMad

coral wren
#

And Shotgun finishes everything

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XD

ripe latch
#

elegant kizuna still tier0?

coral wren
#

Wich should I let do the solo

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Port or mina

ionic magnet
#

idk just pick 1 UniYan

forest lake
#

I think Kizuna got downtiered on Usagi tier list MutsukiMustacheStare

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But why even use her for PVP

ripe latch
forest lake
#

Wtf?

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Oh nvm got the points after restart

#

Fucking heartattack

vague token
#

CA kizuna is just a pure tank

#

15% dr vs HE, 15% for 30 seconds

#

sadly nagato barrage isnt he >_>

coral wren
#

Fuck thought I got Juneau but it was just juno

forest lake
vague token
#

lol

forest lake
#

Just do light builds

coral wren
#

With my luck no thanks will only get elites and sr

hot creek
#

On my fifth rudder UniFlex

#

not gonna bother to craft/enhance it though since im actually starting to run out of aux plates from inactivity SandyMeme

coral wren
#

BTW does Juneau have a retro

#

OK thanks

forest lake
#

Imagine Juneau retro MakinaSmug

ionic magnet
vague token
ionic magnet
#

do 5 more

coral wren
#

Don't have mutch qubes

ionic magnet
coral wren
#

Need the other for spring event

still minnow
#

HOOLOO HELP I NEED AUX PARTS

#

how do I get aux parts really fast

ionic magnet
#

i always have 2 digit aux parts also

still minnow
#

u fuck

coral wren
#

Heard some rumors that Nagato comes back this spring event

still minnow
#

I have 16 purples and 8 blues...

#

that is not enough to do anything with

coral wren
#

But reason enough for me to safe qubes

vague token
#

gotta do more oil comms

#

get the plate one

still minnow
#

I do that

#

they only give like 5 plates of each type

ionic magnet
#

check shops every refresh

still minnow
#

its peanuts

#

I buy all the plates from shops and medals

ionic magnet
still minnow
#

still not enough

vague token
#

gotta play more farm all the plates

#

;)

still minnow
#

I hate playing

#

I'm only here for pvp and collecting waifus

forest lake
#

Wait you seriously did builds

coral wren
ionic magnet
#

yeah i cant recommend farming if i hate it myself

still minnow
#

I mean I guess I could farm 2 reppuus to put on lusty instead of messers BuckySmug

forest lake
still minnow
#

but that's a fuckton of farming

#

I legit cannot believe how bad the droprate is on that shit

#

reppuu mines are a cursed place

coral wren
#

So is the backline in this formation right or wrong

#

@ionic magnet

ionic magnet
#

thats good

coral wren
#

OK safe the Pic now

#

So that I don't forget it

#

When they at max lvl are, I'm gonna need your help with the equip again

vague token
#

wouldnt it be better to put formi top?

#

ws bottom/mid are more common right?

ionic magnet
#

yea it depends on enemy but i dont think hes interested in little things like that

vague token
#

xD

ionic magnet
vague token
#

i dont even move mine since dork/amagi/ws only works in 1 formation

#

kek

ionic magnet
#

yea it should still work
as long as everyone has 1 eva gear they cant get sniped by warkai UniSip

coral wren
#

@HooLooVoo wich one should I give those centaur or formi

ionic magnet
#

wdym

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give what

ionic magnet
#

woa you have that plane UniYan

coral wren
#

Yeah

ionic magnet
#

do you have reppuu

coral wren
#

Don't think so

vague token
#

oof

coral wren
#

What is that

vague token
#

reppuu is a high flight speed fighter with 2x500 bombs

coral wren
#

Do you have a Pic of the item

ionic magnet
#

this is what i use for them

#

some gears are replaceable ofc

#

this is just one variant that works

coral wren
#

Nope don't have that one

#

Where do I get reppuu

ionic magnet
#

rip

vague token
#

vdir archive =(

#

i think

#

but that drop rate is garbo

coral wren
vague token
#

that's a dive bomber

#

reppuu is a fighter

ionic magnet
#

not sure about timings cos i dont have pirate

#

but can just use other fighters

coral wren
forest lake
#

Use the F4U

lean geode
#

my rank degrades so fast ๐Ÿ˜ฉ I was at 800 a couple hours ago, now Iโ€™m at 1700

forest lake
coral wren
#

On wich one

forest lake
#

Best fighter, lowest reload with x2 500lb bombs (with higher damage too)

coral wren
#

Centaur or formi

forest lake
#

Centaur

#

I guess?

ionic magnet
#

yea i think so

forest lake
#

Nice names btw HooLoo

coral wren
#

@ionic magnet

lean geode
#

are messerschmidt and zero worth using if you donโ€™t have reppuus

coral wren
#

Messerschmitt have no bombs

ionic magnet
#

yea i think its fine @coral wren
then use seafang on formi

coral wren
ionic magnet
#

swap alba and cuda slots

coral wren
#

Ok

ionic magnet
#

you have beaver?

coral wren
#

Need still some limit breaks

ionic magnet
#

work on it RenownThumbsUp

shell heron
#

badge is very worth it

coral wren
#

Should I change oil tank later for the 100/150 av fuel

#

Next month

ionic magnet
#

yea

shell heron
#

yes, jet fuel is pretty much a better oil tank

coral wren
#

OkRenownThumbsUp

#

And the cata should I let them or should I but some rudders in it

shell heron
#

rudder is better, more survivability beats raw damage boost

ionic magnet
#

i prefer rudders especially if you dont want to switch formations

coral wren
#

Ok

ionic magnet
#

so everyone can decently tank

ionic magnet
#

do you have a 3rd rudder tho

coral wren
#

Nope sadly

ionic magnet
#

well warkai needs it more

shell heron
#

I don't even have that many rudders tbh. PR gear can be a pain

ionic magnet
#

you can leave cent with cata ig til you get beaver

coral wren
#

Ok

ionic magnet
#

or if you have rwg/team emblem thats nice too

shell heron
#

rwg, you mean the SG radars for CVs

coral wren
shell heron
#

you don't

ionic magnet
#

yea from kizuna event

#

oh z flag you ask kiro SandyMeme

coral wren
#

Kiro???

shell heron
ionic magnet
#

@vague token

#

does the crit rate apply to planes as well

#

anyways just get the beaver imo
save your aux plates UniSip

ionic magnet
#

you got triple 381?

coral wren
#

Triple 381??? Do you have a pic

ionic magnet
#

its in my screenshot

#

if none better use triple 406

ionic magnet
#

oh

#

tbh not sure if mk6 syncs better with your formi gears

vague token
#

it applies to plane attacks but not crash damage

#

from what i can tell

coral wren
#

I just found it got it before from the t5 or t4 box

#

Had still new written on it

ionic magnet
#

ThinkZed isnt triple 381 from PR only

vague token
#

yes

#

it's monarch gun

#

so

ionic magnet
#

anyways just use 381 RenownThumbsUp

vague token
#

im using triple 381 on amagi

#

to be fair, i like amagi having shelling damage

vague token
#

since her main opponent gets instant killed

coral wren
#

Is that correct now

ionic magnet
#

yea

#

wait

coral wren
#

So where can I get Juneau again wich chapter

ionic magnet
#

do you have hpfcr

#

cos you got the pirate plane from FW

coral wren
#

Hpfcr??????

#

Don't know any names