pvp

[elder crane]

not for auto

[sharp wing]

for auto

w/ maxed charges

[elder crane]

it's a cya thing
in any case then Z23 doesn't matter either

[sharp wing]

none matter

[elder crane]

also idk how you <20s with 1:1 auto

[sharp wing]

i dun 1:1

[vague token]

nothing matters

[elder crane]

welll

erm

yeah

[sharp wing]

also u can

just stand on top of boss

[elder crane]

even 1:2 is not guarenteed

for auto

[sharp wing]

i run chaser w/ asw plane too

[elder crane]

and ofc eventually we should get harder subbosses

which aren't just "lol <30s"

[sharp wing]

not like it will matter

same thing but 30 secs longer

[vague token]

just use sandy xD

200 base asw

clears adds

good hp

[sharp wing]

just let yr dds clear elites and kill boss

[elder crane]

what elites

[sharp wing]

since elites spawn right into preload torps

[vague token]

you will probably need aa on 13-5

[elder crane]

and if it's an issue I'll probably WSret it

[sharp wing]

in boss node

[vague token]

ssv boss yo

;)

[sharp wing]

elites spawn on surface

[elder crane]

you can just kill boss

[sharp wing]

boss dies faster

[elder crane]

who needs to worry about anything else when subboss spawns immediately

[sharp wing]

usually

but 1st wave of elites also dies w/ preload

[elder crane]

how? any ASW dmg is same with or without elites

[vague token]

i mean the boss spawning planes would be annoying im sure

xD

[elder crane]

heck you can strip off all guns, torps, planes, and 0 diff except for like chaser skill

[vague token]

like sub boss but like 12-3

ssv powers

;)

[still minnow]

this dumb game

's fleet power calcs make no sense

I don't understand what world it lives in where it thinks this backline has the same strength as this frontline

[sharp wing]

u have 50 lvl main

[still minnow]

yes so why isn't it lower

[sharp wing]

also equips matter

[still minnow]

lvl 50 doesn't contribute anything

[sharp wing]

well, it still has stats

[still minnow]

it's basically a 2/3 fleet

[sharp wing]

and some stat have more value i think

[still minnow]

well bataan has +10 hellcat and +10 ryuusei and a +10 catapult

so maybe I guess

[sharp wing]

well

[still minnow]

most of the other ships don't have +10 anything

[sharp wing]

lol

[vague token]

lol

[sharp wing]

just look at her power rating in ship screen

remove 1 item and see how it changes

[elder crane]

Basically equip rarity and +lv
then base stats, weighted
then bonus for ship rarity and retrofits

and yeah fleet power is a shitty measure

[sharp wing]

It's not that kind of game

[elder crane]

cause it completely ignores skills and MGM+1 and effs

[still minnow]

taiho's power is 4250 and bataan's is 2950

[sharp wing]

where power rating is a thing for anything

[vague token]

they will all fear my 5k sara

[still minnow]

tfw the game thinks a lvl 50 ship is 2/3rds the strength of a lvl 111 ship

[elder crane]

Gunboats since they double up on FP take a massive hit since the game ignores that and just sees 0 torp stat

and yeah ignores levels too afaik

[sharp wing]

asw also taken into account

[vague token]

minus sandy and those bad ijn zuki's

[sharp wing]

[elder crane]

which also gives you hilarious "torpstick on gunboat gives max power"

[sharp wing]

Bataan has asw

[vague token]

dont all cvls have asw? xD

[sharp wing]

ye

[still minnow]

ah yes the critical ASW for pvp

[elder crane]

Bataan has low ASW too

[sharp wing]

but others are CV there

[elder crane]

Fleet power calcs ignore gamemode too

[sharp wing]

so 0

[elder crane]

it's just there for complete newbs

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

Many devs look at thins differently from players anyway

[still minnow]

yeah cuz they don't play their own game

[sharp wing]

Lke they balance game from other point of difficulty

[elder crane]

Nah they don't understand their game

[vague token]

i mean

that code

[elder crane]

it's not like WG levels of stupidity from them

[vague token]

is made of spaghet

[sharp wing]

like devs balance game for lvl 30 enemies (like WF) and when u usually play vs lvl 100+ enemies it's totally different matter

[vague token]

hard to understand

xD

[elder crane]

EX is a clear indicator imo
massive wild swings in difficulty

[vague token]

aa math fun time

[elder crane]

cause devs can't see diff

[still minnow]

indicator of what?

[elder crane]

yeah also AA is entered too

[sharp wing]

like wasd 15k+

cause aa

[elder crane]

indicator of what level the devs play at

[sharp wing]

well, i tell you from 1st hand perspective

[elder crane]

they can't play at level of EX and so don't know how hard each is
all seems the same to them

[vague token]

lul

[elder crane]

is my speculation ofc

[still minnow]

lmao

[elder crane]

I mean how else do you explain Essex then Suruga
or like Ember being a nightmare but Sar being a cakewalk, etc.

[still minnow]

trhey don't play their own game? :D

[sharp wing]

they don't play it like you

[vague token]

na they do, just not at ex

[elder crane]

well what they release is pretty well designed on surface

and/or casual level, I think

[still minnow]

Seriously though, I've done game balance

[vague token]

they also dont min max probs

[still minnow]

so I have real experience with competitive

[vague token]

so waifu fleet is balance

[sharp wing]

and when game balanced around early lvls, late lvls are fucced up often

[still minnow]

And "well designed on the surface but falls apart in the details" is the hallmark of a dev that doesn't play their own game

[elder crane]

Yeah devs for sure don't care/know about anywhere near that kind of serious play

[vague token]

i mean, game is a waifu game

they play it at that designed level im sure

[elder crane]

and I don't think it falls apart in details for the causal, which is what AL is designed for

[sharp wing]

well 90% are casuals

[elder crane]

more like 99%

for AL

[still minnow]

what % of this server uses pvp channel?

[vague token]

99% are png collectors

[sharp wing]

well, we still have those few Ks in pvp

[still minnow]

0.005?

[elder crane]

even those "serious" are often not in the competitive way

but like in the "oath 50 Clevelands" way

[sharp wing]

most pvpers dun use this channel lol

[vague token]

oh yeah big whales xD

[still minnow]

most players are not in this discord

[sharp wing]

this discord still has like 15k

16.7k online in degeneral atm

[elder crane]

tbh that's pretty respectable, what is EN playerbase like?

[vague token]

lul

[still minnow]

I don't think it would be unreasonable to assume that the subset of discord players that are srs enough to use the pvp channel are a good representation of the overall number of serious pvp players in the game's total population

[hot creek]

Do not underestimate the amount of lurkers, even in this pvp channel.

[still minnow]

yeah I would include the lurkers

[shy hazel]

lol

[still minnow]

just talking about people that have opted into this channel

[shy hazel]

what is this fight now

80% of serious pvp players in avrora are in #pvp at least

dunno about other servers

[elder crane]

eh nah there's a lot of serious players that ignore ALO

[shy hazel]

fam here is a lurker

[sharp wing]

many ppl on Sandy are not here

[vague token]

im a casual ;)

[shy hazel]

so is others

[sharp wing]

I'm always "offline" too

[elder crane]

and nah it defs hits nowhere near 80%
I'd believe 20% more

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

u know blue

only top 10 matters

[sharp wing]

qeq

[shy hazel]

top 10 is 80%

[vague token]

lul

[shy hazel]

who cares about lower ranked ppl

[vague token]

i got top 10 once

fun times

;)

[shy hazel]

top 30 maybe acceptable

any lower than that

is a memer

or just

[sharp wing]

lol

[shy hazel]

casual

and you dont need opinions of casuals

[still minnow]

if I get to top 30 with waifu fleet

[shy hazel]

in this channel

[still minnow]

what are you going to say to me

[shy hazel]

what server

[still minnow]

washington

[shy hazel]

if u waifu fleet top 30 in avrora

u a hero

[sharp wing]

I mean, most ppl who carried suruga are not even pvpers

[shy hazel]

in wash i dont think so

[sharp wing]

[still minnow]

what's washy equivalent of top 30 in your eyes then peco

[shy hazel]

maybe top 10 in wash

[still minnow]

lmao I don't believe that

[shy hazel]

big difference in sandbaggers in wash and avrora

[still minnow]

I didn't know there were 20 entire good pvp players

[shy hazel]

lol

[still minnow]

in the whole game

nevermind on avrora alone

[elder crane]

I mean idc about EoS, lol
i just cash in for points always

[sharp wing]

there only 3

[shy hazel]

dunno what weird thing u fighting over anyways

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

[elder crane]

I don't even usually break r100 EoS lol

[shy hazel]

the only hard fights i have in avrora is eos t10

[still minnow]

what's eos

[sharp wing]

how fights can be hard anyway

[elder crane]

since by that point I've done like 40 matches at +9/+8

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

[elder crane]

End of Season

[shy hazel]

2-3 resets is hard

esp when u dont proc anything

[sharp wing]

u reset?

[shy hazel]

ofc

gotta get that bonus

[elder crane]

no benefit to EoS but you do get benefit for matches at AotN
So no-brainer for me

[sharp wing]

i mean...

[still minnow]

whats aotn

[sharp wing]

highest rank

[elder crane]

Admiral of the Fleet

[shy hazel]

i can get top 10 anyways

might as well do it

[still minnow]

you guys are such fucking nerds

[shy hazel]

same effort

[elder crane]

lose out on like 500 merit though

so

[vague token]

lul

is nerd even an insult anymore

[shy hazel]

????

[elder crane]

that's how little I care about EoS

[sharp wing]

i have over 250k merits, i dun care tbh

[shy hazel]

500

???

where did that come from

[vague token]

much less in waifu gacha game

[elder crane]

you get 100 for matches in AotN

[sharp wing]

top 10 matches give +10

[elder crane]

vs 90

[shy hazel]

maybe 50

500 not really

[elder crane]

erm lolwut
I can easily get that many matches in at AotN unless I derp and drop like 5 matches lol

[still minnow]

wwhat do you mean by drop

[shy hazel]

at this point it barely matters anyways

[elder crane]

well not 500 but it's like 300 at least

[shy hazel]

i never use my merits

[still minnow]

I thot the big pvp nerds never lose any matches

[shy hazel]

i have 700k

300k more

to be pogchamp

[elder crane]

not like EoS matters either

ehh I'm LBing everything so I want every Purin/Bulin

[shy hazel]

[elder crane]

I'm at, what, 300, or was it 350 now, MLB ships?

[sharp wing]

400 if with dupes

en has barely above 300 ships

20+ retroes

[elder crane]

yeah so defs not 400
eh, don't we have 400 in collection?

that doublecounts retros

[sharp wing]

ye

[elder crane]

but also doesn't include collabs

[shy hazel]

game alrdy have 450 unique ships

[sharp wing]

369 collection

that double counts those 20+ retroes

so above 300

[elder crane]

ah that's less than I remember

[sharp wing]

[elder crane]

huh I'm closeish to MLB all then

[shy hazel]

at this point it barely matters anyways

[sharp wing]

and we got many ships last few events

[shy hazel]

the only thing that matters in this channel anyways

are the ppl serious in pvp

[elder crane]

makes sense cause I can't find <lv70 ships now often to run comms with

[sharp wing]

let's be fair, those ppl don't talk here

[still minnow]

omg

[shy hazel]

this is a meme channel anyways

[still minnow]

is hosho had actual firepower

[shy hazel]

sometimes help

and make fun of people

[still minnow]

then I could put her with bataan

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

she can equip gun so yes

[shy hazel]

thats what matters in any pvp channel

[still minnow]

and not waste bataan's CV buff

[sharp wing]

wait

houshou has 0 fp

[still minnow]

yes she has 0

[elder crane]

Zeppy is the one you want for that

[shy hazel]

if u lb1 houshou

she goes 0

[still minnow]

zeppy is illegal

[shy hazel]

lb0 should have fp

[sharp wing]

that's Langley

Lengley lb0 dd gun

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

Houshou mlb CL gun

[vague token]

ive been complaining about houshou having 0 fp

for forever

[still minnow]

hosho retrofit let's go devs

[shy hazel]

theyll never fix it

why bother

[still minnow]

give her a fucking barrage

[elder crane]

Zeppy is the one you want for that anyways

[still minnow]

and a bunch of firepower

zeppy is a LOLI

[shy hazel]

u might as well

just saratoga

[still minnow]

zeppy gets RETIRED

[shy hazel]

but sara is

🚮

[elder crane]

Sara doesn't intercept

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

sara does have a fighter

what

[elder crane]

intercept suiboats

[shy hazel]

noisy skill spam

[vague token]

oh lul

[elder crane]

Zeppy does

[shy hazel]

what does she say again

uhhh

dayo dayo

[elder crane]

did they fix Zeppy bug?

[shy hazel]

forgot alrdy

they say they did

[elder crane]

where her barrage launches with lowest FP

[shy hazel]

but no one cared after

[vague token]

i think that got brought up

dunno though

[shy hazel]

i brought it up

[elder crane]

last I heard devs decided it was a bug

[shy hazel]

ppl here is lazy

didnt even let vh armor be reported properly

i re-reported it again until they put it in known bugs

only medium priority tho

🚮

ppl need to complain more

[sharp wing]

no1 will look at yr EN report lol

[shy hazel]

they look at bugs at least

[sharp wing]

if CN ppl report it...

[shy hazel]

game feedback not really

[vague token]

actually i got auto sub added to trello

[still minnow]

why would their EN support read bug reports

EN can't read remember

[vague token]

xD

[shy hazel]

china people dont report

[sharp wing]

devs can't read EN remember

[shy hazel]

they complain

[still minnow]

lower your expectations

[vague token]

our expectations are 0

lul

[sharp wing]

China ppl get reported

[shy hazel]

you should be aware that if its days after maint itself

they still fix bugs

at least vh armor bug

[sharp wing]

I have no expectations lol

[shy hazel]

was reported already in jp cn

but we need them to know its also broken here

so we get 3 reports

gotta stack them complaints

vh armor is like

one of the auxes that can spice up pvp

so it needs to get fixed

[sharp wing]

If u can't even deal w/ wiki admins to add stuff....

[still minnow]

what would you even put it on

[sharp wing]

What to say about dev team

[still minnow]

all the ships that you'd want to put it on can't use it

[shy hazel]

amagi hiryuu

for more survival cancer memes

[vague token]

any of my medium cvs

so they dont die to big seven

xD

[sharp wing]

only if armor + rudder

[shy hazel]

you know amagi is most of the time prioritized now

cos medium armor

heavy armor will make this spicier

[sharp wing]

won\t trade rudder for that

[shy hazel]

u can use both what

[sharp wing]

and lose acc

[shy hazel]

not like u can use 2 rudders

[still minnow]

huh I could put it on bataan

[vague token]

no

[still minnow]

is that a thing

[vague token]

cvls cant use armor

[still minnow]

oh for fucks sake

[vague token]

only thicc boats

[sharp wing]

CB can tho

[still minnow]

only the boats that already have heavy armor

all my CVs already have heavy armor

???

[vague token]

azuma heavy armor

lul

just walk into big seven or amagi barrage and not even care

[sharp wing]

amagi doesn't target vg anyway

[vague token]

im pretty sure she does

[shy hazel]

u mean barrage?

[vague token]

ive seen her barrage shots hit vg

[sharp wing]

1/100

[shy hazel]

amagi barrage hit vg and backline

👀

[vague token]

there's no weight on her barrage

it should be even 1/6 for everyone

[sharp wing]

yeah but no

99% times she shoots backline

[shy hazel]

yeah but no

[vague token]

maybe for you

xD

[sharp wing]

and not flag too

[still minnow]

is my thumb a finger? well no, but yes

[shy hazel]

anything that amagi hits gets dmged

[vague token]

im pretty sure the thumb is a digit but not a finger

[shy hazel]

anything the light reaches

[vague token]

might be wrong

xD

[sharp wing]

Anyway

enjoy
||https://giphy.com/gifs/WoRDd8COIEnaL0zDU8||

[vague token]

[still minnow]

spoilered it so you don't get yeeted out of the server?

hahaha

[sharp wing]

I'm showing contents of 12+ game

[still minnow]

is this game actually rated 12+

[vague token]

i dont get why lulu swim is banned

but that isnt

xD

[sharp wing]

Cause that's oath anim

[still minnow]

is there a L2D viewer anywhere?

[sharp wing]

yes

[still minnow]

I have no idea what 99% of L2D looks like

[sharp wing]

https://l2d.alg-wiki.com/

https://sd.alg-wiki.com/ Chibi viewer

[still minnow]

pretty sure taiho doesn't have an oath skin

[sharp wing]

No, that's oath scene animation

U cannot see as sec

[still minnow]

ah

[sharp wing]

that's exclusive oath thing

[still minnow]

so if she has that skin equipped

and you oath her

then it plays that anim

[sharp wing]

You can watch it if u oathed her

from archive

[still minnow]

ah

[vague token]

pay for lewds

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

[still minnow]

some of these l2ds are so fucking terrible

I don't know how this shit even passes quality control nevermind charging extra for the skin

[ionic magnet]

dsland

[vague token]

lul

[coral wren]

jesus, it's so frustrating, the way your vg is moving to just catch all the fucking torps

[vague token]

i have more problems catching shelling than torps

[coral wren]

well, that too, but it seems it has smth to do with the timing, because right when enemy launches air strikes they just rush toward middle to eat that shit up

[elder crane]

or the good ole "lets just pull all the way back before launching torps"

or "let's charge past the main fleet then launch torps"

[vague token]

kek

[elder crane]

or the good ole "why shoot at enemy main fleet when you can miss on vanguard?"

[vague token]

see, my problem

is that i should have enough speed

but then they wiggle

in the shell aoe

and im like why

[elder crane]

yep
let's play catch!

[shy hazel]

do you know what al should implement

[vague token]

now im on fire for all of my health bar

great

[shy hazel]

give the player to set up our own "auto pattern"

[vague token]

i have wanted that forever

in both pve and pvp

you just assign it to the fleet

[shy hazel]

just record in the screen a pattern

for like 20 seconds

then loop

then record it in settings

there

we have our auto pattern

tho potato devs so it wont happen

[vague token]

id be ok with fixed patterns

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

that you just equip

[shy hazel]

they can even sell slots for auto pattern

its a great business idea

if they can program it that is

[vague token]

spaghet

🍝

[shy hazel]

🍝 code

[vague token]

except we know they can

kizuna event

[shy hazel]

devs

[vague token]

had the gear change to a fixed movement pattern

[shy hazel]

sell us a gear

that has

infinity loop

[vague token]

boiler stats and ai change

[shy hazel]

like 8

that doesnt charge forward

lol

[hot creek]

setting up own auto movment in pvp would be so funny

[shy hazel]

ya lol

imagine the cancer

u put your fleet in sides only

so vg wont get ganked

[hot creek]

have VG avoid nagato barrage 100% of the time ez

[shy hazel]

your mf eats more tho

[coral wren]

so ryuusei jsut insta rapes nagato

[shy hazel]

sometimes it actually helps that vg eats some of the barrage

lol

[vague token]

na, ryuusei still has to target randomly

it could whiff your vg

[hot creek]

I don't care about mid, its just QE sitting there anyways . Besides, as long as you're heavy armor it doesnt do all that much

[elder crane]

max speed, and circle, probably
to make sure you avoid stuff
also if pattern is arbitrary duration, tons of mindgames possible

[hot creek]

need VG to survive at all costs to absorb Hiryuu strikes

[vague token]

go to front every 15 for torps

[elder crane]

for def you can always avoid secs too if you wish

charge in max for torps
wreck the main fleet!

actually you can even set up 610s to hit maybe

since fixed main flt positions

[vague token]

xD

[elder crane]

force bulge on main fleet

[shy hazel]

We should make a concrete suggestion

if we want patterned autos

kiro u do it

[vague token]

ill write something up later, gw2 time

xD

[still minnow]

custom auto pattern could shake up the meta so much tbh

also re: bataan's crazy high plane efficiency

what is the point of light CVs

if they just buff their damage up to match CVs

that just seems illogical

they seem like a natural buff class

if they're bad then make their buffs better lmao

[vague token]

lul

[still minnow]

I'm LBing the bieber squad to get the bieber batch

is there any reason to MLB them

I know there's a fleet tech thing in this game but I don't actually know how important/relevant it is

[vague token]

probably not a priority

get the badge

then you can wait for a bit

[still minnow]

I have the default port capacity

so I have to recycle ships that I'm done with

[vague token]

mlb first

for max tech bonus

then recycle

[still minnow]

ok

[vague token]

and maybe they'll update collection rewards

someday

=/

[still minnow]

hahaha

thats illegal

holistic game development is illegal

everyone knows you need to focus completely on some random obscure thing and ignore everything else

(such as L2D swimsuit skins)

[vague token]

xD

hey man, that l2d za hando tech

[still minnow]

zara's pretty handy

gotta hand it to her

how high would the carrier escort damage reduction need to be for aylwin to be usable in pvp lmao

[ionic magnet]

doesn't really matter how high it is

she needs to live first

[still minnow]

even the concept of carrier protection skill is so dumb

how about you protect the carriers

by actually being useful

and contributing to the battle in a meaningful way

[vague token]

huh, full retro style team

sodak/owari da with juneau/belfast/fortune

all 120

xD

[vague token]

hmm, should i start using formidable in fights at 100 or should i wait until 110

[coral wren]

peak strats

[shy hazel]

bicc brain strats

[coral wren]

he managed to take out my amagi

smh

this ones interesting. i wonder how many resets its gonna take to bring them down

no juneau so probably a few

nah just 1. formidable isnt really great for this team comp

[still minnow]

well I just figured out why my torps have always been shit

I figured it out by fighting someone with magtorps on all 3 of his vg

and it just deletes 70% of my vg health right at the beginning even though they're in a smokescreen

[vague token]

what was it

[still minnow]

idk 3 torp ships

aya and the other two meta torp ships

but not ibuki

and they were lvl 120 and my ships were lvl 100

but still

the torps actually hit every time

[vague token]

you wont see many ibukis cause pr investment

[midnight heron]

its called def fleet bias

[still minnow]

I thot atk fleet gets fucktons of buffs

[vague token]

no

defense fleet gets a penalty

[still minnow]

holy shit I think I just found the meta smoothie

orange juice, cashew milk, cranberries, strawberries, banana

[vague token]

lul

[still minnow]

are PR ships just objectively better than non-PR ships

when you max them out

[vague token]

well

the only concerning part is CLs really

because they get 15% damage amp

they're only 8% weaker than your own ships (minus your own CLs)

[still minnow]

I'm wondering if I'm just going to get cucced by PR ships after enough time passes that people have lots of maxed out PR ships

[vague token]

well, maxed PR isnt a huge deal for pvp at this point

pr2 though

xD

[still minnow]

what happens in pr2

azuma?

btw why is azuma sitting on a toilet seat in her art

[ionic magnet]

found a maxed namaryuu and result is really consistent 17-3. warkai might just make this comp unbeatable in offense

[hot creek]

[vague token]

i should get my aurora trained up

[ionic magnet]

my worst matchups are namaryuus with torp/aurora

[still minnow]

is 1 BB and 2 CVs an objectively superior fleet comp to 3 CV

because of the BB fires

[hot creek]

Somehow, everytime I try triple CV. I feel like the third CV gets a penalty or some shit and doesn't do nearly as much damage as it should.

[vague token]

wasnt there the max plane targets thing

someone brought up?

like 6 bombs/torpedos and it caps or w/e

[still minnow]

"max plane targets"?

[vague token]

i forget

like you can only target a ship with a certain number of plane based weaponry before it cancels others or something

i dunno

[ionic magnet]

is there such thing

[vague token]

no idea

i always feel like triple cv doesnt do as much too

[still minnow]

I do know there is something related to plane cap that causes ryuuseis to fire torpedoes behind themselves

but I don't know the actual details beyond that

[zenith tundra]

for bombs i think it's because there can only be so many bombs in one area

if it is the same for torp then it would be normal that not all of them shoot from same position

[hot creek]

feels like crash damage also nerfed too

like with 2 CV always have enemy flag nearly dead

third CV should theoretically finish it off, but it doesnt

[zenith tundra]

i think crash dmg is the same it just doesn't scale

like u get more hp the more u level up

but crash dmg is same for planes based on their hp

[hot creek]

what if spread launch with fast launch CV like Centaur, mid launch Formidable, late launch Vicc

[zenith tundra]

spread is the only way to use multiple cv well imo. at leat pve

[vague token]

lul

[still minnow]

you like big vicc and u cannot lie?

[zenith tundra]

i prefer vicky over formidable as cg

[still minnow]

vicky is nuts tho

[midnight heron]

is dis phoenix alt lul

[hot creek]

there's another guy named GrandF too

but nah, unrelated. the F in my name actually stands for something

[still minnow]

F

[silver root]

CN folks say that the plane targeting limit is actually 4, down from 6 so its even worse than they thought

so each enemy can only be targeted by 4 planes at the exact same time

as soon as the planes release torps/bombs tho that spot frees up

but barrage planes take up those spots

[ionic magnet]

centaur should be dropping 12 torp bombs per airstrike right? yea i dont think its even close to that at times

[silver root]

so in comes formie with her 6 additional albacores on her barrage

its kind of hard to test because all CVs also have "ghost bombers" that always drops default bombs, similar to BBs will still launch shells with no gun equipped

but those ghost bombers dont go away when u equip planes, and their ghost bombs take up the 4 targeting spots as well

https://img.nga.178.com/attachments/mon_201909/27/foQ5-2vilXsZ7nT3cSh4-9m.gif see how the barrage albacore planes fly across the screen but theres no red barrage torps

[trim horizon]

[ionic magnet]

[silver root]

it only bugs out consistantly with avgas on formie, which we dont have on EN yet

[shy hazel]

[silver root]

but i would probably stagger CV launch times by half a second just in case

[shy hazel]

did u ppl already report it

in jp

and wasnt the beacon the cause

rather than avgas

[silver root]

i think i said beacon by mistake last time. its avgas, the aux that makes planes fly faster

[midnight heron]

got a full ryuusei from event at 38k points lul

[haughty flare]

cringe fleet
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/536671634334023715/630021282926428180/MuMu20191005153925.png

[midnight heron]

more like p2w fleet

[elder crane]

Yeah I was wondering about that too
in event I was seeing formi sometimes either not drop her barrage planes or not drop something (too few torps)
I thought it was just a stacking bug though cause I didn't notice any dmg decrease (it's really hard to tell)

[red nexus]

Yeah except it's only pay and not win

[sharp wing]

You just described FGO

[midnight heron]

i hav to reword it to p2s

pay 2 skin

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

no such thing as p2w in this game

the nearest is oath rings

but not really

[sharp wing]

Well, we would need to define p2w

If u need to whale 3k gems to get event ship does it vount?

[shy hazel]

you know

you need to define winning in this game first

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

and you need to reach an agreement with the loser

and

all of u are losers

[sharp wing]

U win waifus

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

And u dun play for waifus

So you are loser

[shy hazel]

sagitits

how much is your %

because i have all your waifus

100%

[sharp wing]

assuming every ship is waifu

[shy hazel]

i dont need to be specific

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

if i have all

[sharp wing]

Loser.

[shy hazel]

no u

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

u missed a ship last time

[sharp wing]

wha

[shy hazel]

therefore lets agree

that you lose

[sharp wing]

I never missed anything

wdym

I only was at 0 cubes

2 events in a row

[shy hazel]

poor poor sag

[sharp wing]

But i still got em all, even rate ups

[shy hazel]

meanwhile

it time for me to collect cubes

[sharp wing]

While some ppl sit here on 1-1.5k cubes and think it's normal

[shy hazel]

cos upcoming events are just reruns

that i dont need

like fw

[sharp wing]

There still new events

w/ reruns inbetween

[shy hazel]

seeing their announcement

which i will take at face value

we wont get other servers event

and just get dumb reruns

[sharp wing]

Siriusly

[dry socket]

war archives p much confirmed a

[sharp wing]

[dry socket]

mass number of reruns

for en

not really interested in them anymore

[sharp wing]

war archives are jsut there

[dry socket]

for re-reruns

[shy hazel]

they should just dump

[sharp wing]

they will just archive all non rerun vents 1st

[shy hazel]

them old event ships

at build

they wont do that

people complained alot and suggested that in game feed

[sharp wing]

each time they archive event they add ships to build

[shy hazel]

answer is we'll have to rerun them

bullcrap

so ill take their prev announcement at face value

really

lol

[dry socket]

putting them in build

means less variation

the majority of players have 50iq and go with the meta and what sounds good on paper

[sharp wing]

We actually got rerun ships too this time

[shy hazel]

jp cn has already put dumps of these old event ships in the build

its inevitable that en will be like that too

might as well put it early

and not rerun crap

[dry socket]

i would be against that

just so pvp can stay strategic

[sharp wing]

We need get rerun ships in event 1st

It doesn't influence pvp

[dry socket]

and not just a clash of mirror units

it will, it will

limited units in games, especially gachas

that influence the meta

[shy hazel]

[dry socket]

will set up a barrier

[sharp wing]

pr2 will influence meta

lul

and ws kai before that

[shy hazel]

in the end its just delaying people who didnt get nagato amagi

[dry socket]

i don't feel like getting my ironblood fleet leveled

[shy hazel]

farther in the future everyone will play the same meta

[dry socket]

^

exactly what i meant

[sharp wing]

ofc

[dry socket]

give it time

or don't do it

[sharp wing]

give it early

[shy hazel]

just rush it

[sharp wing]

so we get done

[dry socket]

azur lane

a luck based meta

[sharp wing]

Azur lane has no pvp

[dry socket]

it could be competitive

if they remove the reset option from the board

i'm just here for the 15k purins

[shy hazel]

play with me sagitits

[sharp wing]

That was like 2 years ago...

my account way outdated

[shy hazel]

pso2 still good what

[sharp wing]

ye

[shy hazel]

what ship are u even

[sharp wing]

i need catch up

I played right when Hero class released

few months in that range

[shy hazel]

2 years ur face

thats just a year ago

[sharp wing]

idk

Better wait EN PSO2 release

[shy hazel]

if u not ship10 u can kys anyways

[sharp wing]

there was 1 main EN ship

[shy hazel]

thats 2

gaijin ship

en really

u expect en economy to be good

[sharp wing]

lmao

econmy

U play weeb ship?

[shy hazel]

my friends say long time ago

they play sea server

[sharp wing]

qeq

[shy hazel]

got items 999m

[sharp wing]

hly

[shy hazel]

i speak read japanese anyways

so i play gaijin ship

better economy too

[sharp wing]

I won't play w/ yr weebus

[shy hazel]

ship 10 got gaijin guilds np

[sharp wing]

Anyways it gets pretty boring when u solo

and u not solo like 5% content

[shy hazel]

en version prolly wont get collabs

[sharp wing]

idk what collabs even do there

[shy hazel]

costumes hey

[sharp wing]

qeq

And the trading system there...

Like u needed to buy auction passes or something

to sell stuff

[midnight heron]

i played sea and got bored

cant get over the fact dat u gotta pay for premium to set up shop

[sharp wing]

If u not hanging around w/ some1 most of time, u get bored really fast

[midnight heron]

stupid af

[sharp wing]

that too

but u can get them without money

[midnight heron]

how tho

[sharp wing]

real money i mean

[midnight heron]

those 3 day shop cards

dont last long

[sharp wing]

ye

[midnight heron]

when u run out u pretty much get cut out from the economy

and u die

[sharp wing]

Or you could buy it from auction and use to setup own?

[midnight heron]

dont think u can buy those with game currency tho

or at least i dont rmb it can

[sharp wing]

well, i dun remember, but i managed to survive

[midnight heron]

the upgrade system kinda pissed me off as well lmao

[sharp wing]

But it's just boring af aside few raids

gotta drag some friend alone with you everywhere

[shy hazel]

watching concert rn

heh

[sharp wing]

and no1 will want to hang around noob locations

[midnight heron]

had a guild but ppl got bored

[sharp wing]

Well

been there seen that

[midnight heron]

like srsly in the early days

[sharp wing]

well

[midnight heron]

it was just map farming exp

forgot wat they called it

[sharp wing]

pretty much

[midnight heron]

they had a term for it

[shy hazel]

AQ or BQ

[sharp wing]

How is translation doing btw

[midnight heron]

i dont rmb acronyms lul

[sharp wing]

that project was pretty decent

[shy hazel]

only menus are okay and story i guess

[sharp wing]

lol

[shy hazel]

i dont need tl for story tho

[sharp wing]

item and skill descriptions?

[shy hazel]

items are outdated as ever

es costumes

[sharp wing]

skills were pretty readable iirc

[shy hazel]

esp

[sharp wing]

So project kidna died?

[shy hazel]

its alive

they just dont bother costumes

[sharp wing]

Alive but outdated

[shy hazel]

cos got new one every two weeks

[sharp wing]

well, wouldn't care for costumes myself

skill items and weapon is what matters

[shy hazel]

ofc got tl

go back

go ship10

[sharp wing]

I shall sway to the dark side

[shy hazel]

i rly love this kuhna concert

2nd song one

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

nothing still beats arks dance festival tho

[sharp wing]

idk

[shy hazel]

you know the thing that makes pso2 awesome is the music and the teamwork

[sharp wing]

teamwork... then u solo 95% time

no ty

[shy hazel]

thats only the grind to 90

once u find good team it feels v good

[sharp wing]

yeah, most ppl die off before

they actually reach 90

cause it's fuccing boro solo grindgest

[shy hazel]

its actually so easy now

thanks to bonus quest

u can 90 v casually

lol

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

come over

u can al while pso2

[sharp wing]

I will come and stalk you secretly

[shy hazel]

ship 10 is waiting

[sharp wing]

I will burn yr ship down

[shy hazel]

you can't burn arks, even the profound darkness failed

[sharp wing]

I will just burn every1 inside

[sharp wing]

Need more stripers in background

[midnight heron]

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

this is a good pic for a cult invitation

[sharp wing]

btw they made that console game

fr pso

[shy hazel]

pso2 is in every console existing

[sharp wing]

and it had some synch function

[shy hazel]

switch ps4 xbone

3ds psvita

vita support just got removed iirc

and 3ds

[sharp wing]

NO, i mean, that console version had some shared stuff w/ PC

[shy hazel]

the console and pc is the one and same game

lol

just a specifc channels for consoles

[sharp wing]

nah, there was some another pso game

[midnight heron]

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

and they like shared summons etc. if u link ps02 account

[shy hazel]

other than mobile games

there hasnt been a new pso game since pso2

[sharp wing]

mobile probably

[shy hazel]

oya

[sharp wing]

u link accs

[midnight heron]

i only rmb playing psp :>

[shy hazel]

theres no more vita channels in the game now

[sharp wing]

and there some stuff

[shy hazel]

would u even download a 60gb game in a vita anyways

lol

[sharp wing]

qeq