pvp

[hot creek]

nah hard mode

[finite valve]

press the exchange

they fuck up the pop up button

https://trello.com/c/4gaVjIpq/1163-crosswave-hard-challenge-ticket-exchange-mislabelled

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always check #known-bugs

[midnight heron]

at least it makes fking sense now

[finite valve]

image being cucked over by trashlation

[stark raft]

yeah im at 13k pts

1 bp

[finite valve]

by the time we finish event you going to have at least 2 ryuuseis

[hot creek]

y ppl want ryusei so much?

dont we have a bunch

[midnight heron]

also how do u guys even check ur points

i already did 15 hard and still 0 pts on leaderboard

[stark raft]

scroll down

I want atleast 2 more ryuuseis

[midnight heron]

oh nvm im dumb lul

[hot creek]

so EX is pointless?

[midnight heron]

i mean if u wanna get pts faster its still the best

[hot creek]

with my score range I only get about 66% more points at 246% the oil cost

totally worth

which server in the lead?

[midnight heron]

i only know sandy better than lex

[stark raft]

84.24 on wash

[midnight heron]

server best server

[hot creek]

83.65

[vague token]

watching hiryuu barrage whiff

lul

[smoky elk]

85.15

[zenith tundra]

hiryuu barrage is more a meme tbh. the chances to hit are wors the normal tb

[vague token]

yeah the targeting seems kinda

lul

[midnight heron]

iirc she has ryuusei barrage or smth

[vague token]

no it's cuda barrage

but they whiff main xD

when 0 vanguard are alive

[midnight heron]

ofc if its cuda but isnt there like 4 types of barrage

[vague token]

no, just the damage lol

[midnight heron]

wow

at least suicide dmg still works then

[shy hazel]

@empty grove teach me master

how to be top 1 in ex

actually just spill the beans and your fleet

[blazing scroll]

[empty grove]

I got bored & stopped doing ex

Fleet is scuffed

[shy hazel]

did u manage to gank boss to death

[empty grove]

Nah

Subs are too weak

Got like 410k dmg without subs

[shy hazel]

i dont even have leveled subs

[blazing scroll]

[shy hazel]

reeee

full 120

[empty grove]

No ibuki tho

[shy hazel]

my ibuki is dev 29.5

lvl102 only

orz

[empty grove]

All of mine are Dev 30 & level 100

Minus Nep & sanrui

[shy hazel]

[empty grove]

They eat too much oil

[shy hazel]

ibuki is my 3rd

tom or in 3 days shes done

dunno if i go roon or louis now

both useless anyways

[empty grove]

I just went with who I thought was hotter

[zenith tundra]

ex just sucks for anything tbh

[empty grove]

[zenith tundra]

what's the point of a battle that cost 70+ oil and no xp gain

[empty grove]

To flex 180k sub dps

[zenith tundra]

dunno how many care about flexes

[shy hazel]

[empty grove]

Not like i'm gaining EXP in hard either tho

[zenith tundra]

i'm leveling formidable in medium with a 0lb vg

16 oil x 1.2k xp

[empty grove]

I'd rather rush points & do a decent levelling method

[zenith tundra]

i'd rather not waste all my time on al

[empty grove]

I enjoy the game so I play it

[zenith tundra]

i enjoyed it too for a while but no need to play 5-6 hrs per day al

[empty grove]

Ehh

You do you

[zenith tundra]

how much have u been playing for?

[shy hazel]

👀

are you really asking

Famine that

[blazing scroll]

[shy hazel]

better not ask for your sanitys sake too

[zenith tundra]

i was just curious

[shy hazel]

👀

top 1 or 2 every event ex

top 1-3 in pvp always

unforgivable

oh not only ex

[zenith tundra]

if he started playing al with en server than is not that much

[shy hazel]

event point itself

👀

[empty grove]

I started like

3 days after EN release

[shy hazel]

hey

i play earliee than u

i played in jp obt

[empty grove]

I played this on a random whim

[shy hazel]

i was banned from gbf

then al was making scandal when i was in jp

tried then never touch again

until en came

[empty grove]

What'd you get banned for

[shy hazel]

[empty grove]

[shy hazel]

Youre gonna need to ask my lawyer

[empty grove]

[zenith tundra]

i don't get how people can do stuff ro get banned

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

is like u don't care at all about what u play to do that

[shy hazel]

zack if u take gbf as a career

youol understand

why

[zenith tundra]

all i understand is that wasting all my work and get banned is dumb

[shy hazel]

guildwar is so competitive

youll be forced to use

helping tools

[zenith tundra]

hope those helping tools had the result u wanted

[shy hazel]

hey

its only a three day ban

[zenith tundra]

so why did switch?

[stark raft]

enough to read all the ferry doujins

[empty grove]

[shy hazel]

i mean i got nothinf to play

i left japan i stopped gbf

i need that ping badly

because me is hardcore

rather quit than go casual

disgusting

at least al isnt even really competitive

👀

[empty grove]

If it was, i'd be sleeping even less

[blazing scroll]

[trim horizon]

[empty grove]

10 min till reset

[trim horizon]

[empty grove]

[coral wren]

Hoho

8 mins till rush

[ionic magnet]

asking why ppl play is just asking why ppl live

[coral wren]

Why do people live

[empty grove]

Masochism

[coral wren]

Cuz they dont want to unlive

People die if they are killed

[ionic magnet]

[empty grove]

[coral wren]

Aight bois

r u ready to rush

[hot creek]

https://puu.sh/ElWnh/6c922d1b0d.png feelsgoodman. got number wan player in my lobby

[coral wren]

Hiryuu makes me reset 10x

Oh im at 10 now

My 5 mins of fame was up

[trim horizon]

Im so behind

[coral wren]

weak

be a rusher chad

[ionic magnet]

phx salivating on his food rn

[trim horizon]

now he's gonna rush all his attack

and eat +8

won't be fat enough for +1

[hot creek]

earlier today I had someone with 70pt ahead and they only gave me +1

[empty grove]

I've had that happen multiple times

Even logged to make sure score was updated

Still +1

[cerulean estuary]

its all decade's fault

[coral wren]

You'll only get 10 if u eat me now

Wait a bit

Tbh i just need enough points to gt the admiral of the navy rank

2days worth

[hot creek]

Don't worry, easy to get gensui even five charges down on Sandy

Can even place top 1 EoS with a charge down.

[coral wren]

Theres rlly no competitive feeling here

I mean i cant be bothered to keep track of some stuff. Im sure people would take pvp more seriously if the reward structure is better.

2500 after 16 days

[ionic magnet]

yea just compete if you want to compete

nothing to lose

perfect for casuals

[coral wren]

Who won?

[hot creek]

nobody. you reset that shit

[coral wren]

Nah look at my rank

Im at 4

[coral wren]

My enty cucks hiryuu all the time

[ionic magnet]

anyone else stuck here?

[coral wren]

Well

[trim horizon]

someone who hasn't played for a while need to use ur uid iirc

[coral wren]

No friends to help us

So we're stuck there

[hot creek]

true hardcore players make new secondary account

[coral wren]

i didnt know you can use an alt to add you

[ionic magnet]

[coral wren]

But its too late

I dont have any old alts

[ionic magnet]

making alt for qf

[coral wren]

cant add anymore

I tried

[ionic magnet]

yea

[coral wren]

tho i made a new acc on washington

Best place with hackers

[trim horizon]

all those BPs PR

gone

[coral wren]

Yeh its sad

[ionic magnet]

rental ticket

[coral wren]

I mean i struggled just to claim the french frame

[ionic magnet]

rip

[coral wren]

But this event just made me cry cuz i got no friends

Its no fun when the game makes you face reality

[ionic magnet]

friends omegalul

[coral wren]

I just wanna rush and leave everythin behind

No one can see ur tears if you're far ahead

[hot creek]

I got friends but none of them are degen weeb like me

[coral wren]

Same

[ionic magnet]

this event wants me to make someone play AL again

big pass

[coral wren]

Tbh i got one friend to play it but hes gay

He only played for like 2 days

Before complaining about lolis

[blazing scroll]

I'm not stuck

I'm using the same account but on washy server

[ionic magnet]

[coral wren]

ur the guy who taught us the trick

But its too late

[blazing scroll]

New account won't work

[hot creek]

tricks? where?

[coral wren]

I know

[blazing scroll]

I guess logging in after maintenance on the wrong server did have an advantage

[ionic magnet]

my aibou dumped me i guess

stopped playing 3 days ago

[coral wren]

I will never forgive the japanese for this event

[blazing scroll]

You're only missing out on some goodies

Nothing major

[coral wren]

But but

Those bps

[blazing scroll]

[coral wren]

i cri

[blazing scroll]

[coral wren]

had to waste bulins just to get frenchy frame

And level up useless ships like ajax and york

I rlly hate hms so much

[blazing scroll]

[coral wren]

They're above kms tho

[blazing scroll]

My york and ajax were lvled to 90 with comms

[coral wren]

Kms is just pure trash

[blazing scroll]

[coral wren]

Murica no.1 always

[blazing scroll]

'Murica

[coral wren]

Oh

Theres a bonus xp during tht time

But my warspite n boobs were lvl 110

Just needed ajax and york for lb

My shitty hms ships

[blazing scroll]

That isn't so bad

[trim horizon]

500 dock

[true trellis]

Only 500?

[blazing scroll]

I know

Rookie numbers

[trim horizon]

I love having150 dock space

[blazing scroll]

[empty grove]

[blazing scroll]

You can't even properly farm with 150 dockspace

[trim horizon]

who said I do farm

[midnight heron]

finally got 3rd gun

[slender hedge]

Farm

Lmao

[still minnow]

I'm farming fine with 150

maybe I'm not hardcore enough

[trim horizon]

[midnight heron]

lmao i got dis last time as well when u get error logging in

[sharp wing]

lol, told you there gonna be another hotfix for this event

10 free ticks tho

[coral wren]

Hahah

Drills your waifu lmao

Why would you waste a ring on a purin

[sharp wing]

[blazing scroll]

Memes

[sharp wing]

U cannot waste a ring

[blazing scroll]

Who says it's a waste

[sharp wing]

Dat guy

[coral wren]

I mean you can see formidable right there. Why give it to purin when you have such a beauty waiting for it

[red nexus]

Formidable is questionable at the best

[midnight heron]

did u say

[coral wren]

If only air torps could crit

[blazing scroll]

Make cvs great again

[midnight heron]

dat just makes jintsuu even more op lul

[quiet flicker]

Filthy Unicum here I'd like to know the best Gear for Amagi, Nagato, Hiryuu in pvp

time to ditch Akaga sad times

[coral wren]

check the pinned tier list

[quiet flicker]

thanks

[sharp wing]

Air torps actually crit

those ryuussei crits

[slender hedge]

My enty akaga jinstu ayaya sendai can do ex boss only to 69%

Sad times

[midnight heron]

[blazing scroll]

Not enough OWARIDA

[coral wren]

my highest was 65%

Its sad

That took everything from lucky E, 3 naga barrage and direct hit of ayaya/yuki

With help of subs

Cant seem to replace belfap cuz either aya dies or whoever i replace in the front

6 oxy torps with maxed ayaya jin and yuki should do the trick.

Only got 5 oxys and they aint even maxed

But yeah torps deals most of the damage. She eats bbs like nothin

[ionic magnet]

went 17-3 with this comp
seems like stall VGs get countered hard cos they are not a threat to my own VGs
crash dmg kills backline in 1-2 airstrikes
ill try replacing aurora with neptune now

[coral wren]

Tht 3 bastards

Hiryu , louis and juneu

[sharp wing]

sanrui is least of yr problems

[coral wren]

When she triggers her dodge skills like yuki

She survives even longer

its annoying af

[blazing scroll]

Juneau in front tho

[coral wren]

That team makes me reset 3-6 times

[blazing scroll]

And kgv > monarch?

[sharp wing]

sanrui has no damage negation like nanoda

[coral wren]

yeh its why i reset

Until she gets hit

I usually play like this:

Did amagi/enty/naga trigger their skills in 1 min? No:reset|yes```

Its how i win vs that team comp

[sharp wing]

I mean, if u need to reset as Namagi, u do something wrong

I thought u run foxes

[coral wren]

Nah

I eat fox teams for breakfast

They're like a worst version of kms fleet

[sharp wing]

The problem is u reset tho

[coral wren]

Sometimes namagi doesnt proc skills

So i reset

[sharp wing]

they often do not proc

[coral wren]

If aya dies too early, i reset

If i have to go to the bathroom, i reset

[sharp wing]

run stall vg, u won't reset

<Aya

[coral wren]

No thnks

I wanna blow up the enemy vg even if i have to brute force their juneu

[sharp wing]

I'm lvling aya atm, it's utter trash

prinz is better

[coral wren]

yeah shes only good for boss fights

[sharp wing]

I mean pvp

[coral wren]

She also steals pvp most of the time

Ik that

But i dont like stalling

[sharp wing]

u like losing time of yr life for pointless resetting

[coral wren]

See i dont have any defensive item equipped

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

my life is pointless

[sharp wing]

Life of a rusher

[coral wren]

Oui

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

no defense, all damage

Our sole reason for existing is to be eaten by sandbaggers

[sharp wing]

Foodie goodie

[midnight heron]

rusher unite

[ionic magnet]

@blazing scroll yea jun lead is not that good on def
also yea kgv > monarch

[coral wren]

Do you think food cares about strategies

I only care about reaching top 1

For 5 mins

[midnight heron]

i only care about rushing

[coral wren]

you gotta destroy everythin and every team composition tho

Be more dedicated

[midnight heron]

i just reset if i cant do it first try

[coral wren]

ah, a man of culture

Thts how mafia works

I once reset 20x

[blazing scroll]

@ionic magnet Is kgv dmg that much better then?

[coral wren]

I think thts my highest reset count and its like an hour

[ionic magnet]

yea more dmg and more consistent also tankier

[midnight heron]

i think all rusher experienced dat

[coral wren]

All for tht +9

[sharp wing]

even when lvling comps like wasd i didn't reset over 5 times, lol

[coral wren]

idk man. Some rushers gives up

[midnight heron]

if u giv up as rusher u r disgrace to famiry

[coral wren]

Legend says u can be a true giga chad and have your fav ship girl come to life irl if you manage to do 100 resets

[midnight heron]

nty lul

[coral wren]

aint no mountain high enough

[sharp wing]

100 resets are as bad, as this 45 daily battles

[coral wren]

smh

[sharp wing]

finally done

[coral wren]

I probably reset 1000+ last season

In total

[sharp wing]

can they just make repeat fuccing button

for this 15 trash battles

[coral wren]

Repeat for

Oh tht surugay event

[sharp wing]

Ur gay

[coral wren]

No me

Wait no

[sharp wing]

Oni waifus

[coral wren]

Surugei

[blazing scroll]

can't they add a ship that disables resets

[coral wren]

Her horn will poke ur peepee

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

No dont give yostar ideas

[sharp wing]

Antirusher boat

[coral wren]

I swear i'll write 50 pages of complaints

[trim horizon]

yes, don't give the publisher ideas

[blazing scroll]

Lmao

[coral wren]

Dont stop the rush

i swer im gonna cry if they remove the reset function

Its a valid strategy i swer

[blazing scroll]

Valid cheat

[coral wren]

No its not cheating

some peeps cant rlly win

Its their destiny

[blazing scroll]

Destiny to lose

[coral wren]

Thts why the player switch exist

[sharp wing]

U know reset is bs only Al has

[coral wren]

But the battle reset is sacred for us rushers

yeh

[sharp wing]

main thing that trivializes all this exercise

[coral wren]

Let us manually control ships and we wont need tht

But if its gonna play like a horse racing game

[sharp wing]

U don't manual in pvps

[coral wren]

then u better give me an option

To reset with no penalty

Its fully automated and not rlly a pvp.

[blazing scroll]

I've played mobas before where pvp was just watching characters fight

[coral wren]

that same thing that stops you from going full meta slaving

Yikes

Thats just mobile games pvp

Whts meta when u can reset

But then again, u have to have the best ships to actually win

If u have 0% of winning then reset is pointless

[blazing scroll]

Welcome to mobas with pvp

[coral wren]

Tell tht to fire emblem

[blazing scroll]

Good example

[coral wren]

But ye AL pvp isnt really pvp

Theres no such thing as balance

[blazing scroll]

Not between casuals and whales

[coral wren]

Ur only reward is 1000 medal shop points

[sharp wing]

most games that let u manual pve have fully automated pvp

manual pvp makes it unfair

[coral wren]

Realtime pvp

[sharp wing]

It's as bad, as free resets

u cannot really have real time pvps

20 minute queues

[coral wren]

Gachashit having realtime pvps kek

[sharp wing]

it will be total bs

[coral wren]

Yeah and the pings

We dont live in 1 country

Tht would be them having to handle more servers

[sharp wing]

U know, in mmorpgs ppl play all over the world

[coral wren]

And losing cash when they cannput out more live2d skins

Live2d skins > pvp servers

yeah but some mmos have separate servers for their pvps

[sharp wing]

some

[coral wren]

I think guild wars on mobile

Tht would be extra effort

[sharp wing]

guild wars have separate rvr servers

[coral wren]

Does KC have pvp?

[sharp wing]

exercises

[coral wren]

the problem is AL isnt an mmo

[sharp wing]

It's not a problem

[coral wren]

its a gacha game ffs man

[sharp wing]

yeah, like other gachas

[coral wren]

u dont need a complex pvp system for tht

[sharp wing]

u do actually

It'sa not complex

It's just "pvp"

[coral wren]

Give one example of a good mobile mmo with good pvp

Tht doesnt rely on people throwing money at the game

[sharp wing]

any pvp is whale race

for obvious reason

[coral wren]

Im not whaling yet i can destroy top teams

[sharp wing]

w/ 5 resets

ye

[coral wren]

while playing casually

Do the same but with a shit fleet

[sharp wing]

and defense win/lose doesn't impact ladder lmao

[coral wren]

Yea

Its the point system

I'd say its a lazy design but eh

[sharp wing]

U see that's the problem. Any casual not giving shit about game can win. Meanwhile ppl who invest a lot into their fleet have 0 advantage

It's VERY discouraging

[coral wren]

Your advantage is not wasting time

i get stuck for like 1 hour resetting

[sharp wing]

ppl are not rewarded for their investment

U would never see top 1k in real pvp...

[coral wren]

Thts the game design fault, not the playah

Im just playing the game as intended

not like its against the rule

If ur discouraged, then dont do pvp. U can compete in the ladders for ex modes, etc

[sharp wing]

that's not the point...

ladder doesn't matter to me

[coral wren]

Until they change everythin to make strategies actually matter, then u cant really do anything but wait

overhauling the pvp

[sharp wing]

It's not "pvp"

[coral wren]

People hve been dealing with the same ships all year long

[sharp wing]

they didn't make "pvp" in the 1st palce

[coral wren]

Power creeping, meta

and u complain about reset of all things

Thts the least of ur problems

[sharp wing]

what?

[coral wren]

Cuz at least resets gives u a chance

[sharp wing]

I don't need chances, i worked my fleet

u need chances

[coral wren]

Are u telling me i didnt make an effort for my own? Smh

Dont look down on my fleet like tht

ill destroy ur fleet if i see it

[sharp wing]

ye ye

[coral wren]

I swer

Im gonna livestream it

[midnight heron]

[sharp wing]

U not only have free resets, but also buffs for offense

this shit is hilarious

[coral wren]

Its not a bug, its a function

It just works

[sharp wing]

and u still reset

[coral wren]

I am the time master

also whut u mean by buff for offense?

[sharp wing]

20% damage reduction

[midnight heron]

i wud rather they remove the useless offense buff and just remove oath bonus altogether in pvp

[coral wren]

Having oxytorps on evrrything is counter productive

eh, oath bonus doesnt bother me

[midnight heron]

20% dmg reduction means jack shit when oathed ships get stronger burns

[blazing scroll]

Yeah livestream it

[sharp wing]

U would really burn on oath buffs if u didn't have 20% offense buff

[blazing scroll]

I want to see the amount of resets

[coral wren]

I faced lotsa rich peeps with full oathed fleet and they still gets dumpstered

[sharp wing]

Cause u get buff...

[coral wren]

Obv

[sharp wing]

dude

[coral wren]

You'll watch it for how many times i reset

[sharp wing]

U ever played any pvps in other games?

[coral wren]

Thts the point of the livestream

[midnight heron]

dew it

[coral wren]

I played club penguin for 5 years

Dont ask me tht question

Its disrespectful to a true gamer

[sharp wing]

So that's a no

[smoky elk]

it's not 20% dmg reduction on offense, it's +20% dmg

[sharp wing]

It's reduction

dude

[coral wren]

wht does having experience in other pvps means in this convo

[sharp wing]

offense takes 80% damage

[coral wren]

Its not pvp ,.its exercise

[sharp wing]

wtf u talking

[coral wren]

You also get +% on hp too

[shy hazel]

[smoky elk]

but the wiki said so

[stark raft]

what the fuck?

[coral wren]

Hah checkmate

[sharp wing]

If we got damage buff, battlesa would be faster

[coral wren]

U got wiki'd

[stark raft]

this shit is pinned in this channel

[midnight heron]

wiki lies to ppl

[stark raft]

[sharp wing]

I need that wiki quote

[coral wren]

He pulled out the wiki card

[waxen lion]

[coral wren]

Saggi got banished to the shadow realm

Nah man

ya played all ur cards

wiki never lies unless its uncyclopedia

[trim horizon]

imagine oath being useful

[blazing scroll]

it's indeed there

[coral wren]

everythin gets buffed even hp

[midnight heron]

wow much lies

todd howard wud be proud

[coral wren]

How do u not know tis

[coral wren]

Rekt

[sharp wing]

dude, hp buffs are for both offense and defense

[coral wren]

Facts and logic

Destroyed

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

only exclusive offense buff is 20%

[coral wren]

ben shapiro'd

[stark raft]

not these noobs

they cant even read

[coral wren]

Drop it

[stark raft]

the pins

[coral wren]

I have room temperature IQ

If u have one for kids, or kindergarten tht i can read/understand then drop it

wiki never lies, saggi

Its game over

[trim horizon]

⛏

[coral wren]

u get 20% bonus so idk whut u mean by tht defense

And where u get tht

[sharp wing]

from game code

[stark raft]

dont even bother cyan

[midnight heron]

y was such a huge detail overlooked anyway

[stark raft]

[coral wren]

ik. Only 80 yr olds believe evrthing on the internet

[smoky elk]

yet, the wiki never describe code details, so it might also be there

[stark raft]

this shit is literally pinned in the channel

[coral wren]

drop the data

And pure facts

Btw no one checks pins

What nerd checks pins? Can u link it

Ur actually strippin the game code huh

What a radical man

[smoky elk]

are u sure code never lies?

[sharp wing]

Now u need to go to feedback and post wiki team some code

[stark raft]

glad #pvp is opt in

[shy hazel]

[coral wren]

code never lies

[shy hazel]

what is the fight about

[coral wren]

game would break otherwise

[trim horizon]

[midnight heron]

when wiki lies to u

[shy hazel]

all of u are still losers

[coral wren]

Nothing no fights

[shy hazel]

[coral wren]

Everyone is having 200 IQ discusion

[stark raft]

all of avrora are losers

bow to your god famine

[coral wren]

Facts

[stark raft]

[coral wren]

Sandy numba wan

[safe meteor]

do you farm EX hard, or use them to do hard?

[sharp wing]

cn wiki has it right

[ionic magnet]

avrora 81.21% so nub

[coral wren]

Whts the average IQ of avrora players

[ionic magnet]

what is IQ

[coral wren]

Sandy usually has 1 cuz they're number 1

[safe meteor]

Washington at 80.19,

[sharp wing]

-0.2

all i see

[blazing scroll]

Sandy at 78.32

[coral wren]

Highest ever

[safe meteor]

do you farm EX hard, or use them to do hard?

[coral wren]

Do hard

[sharp wing]

Now we need go to wiki feedback and tell them...

[coral wren]

Whts ex hard

[trim horizon]

banned

[blazing scroll]

Gotta love the chinese in code

[safe meteor]

just need to get 60k points, is it doable if i only do Hard?

[coral wren]

You mean the surugay event?

[sharp wing]

15k from hard?

[safe meteor]

that many?

[coral wren]

Yeah its ez to farm points doing hard

[midnight heron]

15k lul

[sharp wing]

all 45 matches give 3.3k

[safe meteor]

alright

[sharp wing]

without ex

[midnight heron]

at least 100 runs

[coral wren]

just do it

[safe meteor]

thanks, im gonna do some hard farming then

[trim horizon]

gotta love the nolifers in Sandy

[coral wren]

Btw i got lost from the convo about damage reduc and damage bonus

[safe meteor]

what team do you use btw in hard?

[trim horizon]

[coral wren]

Whats the consensus

Did the wiki lied

[blazing scroll]

I afk with helena, Essex, Enty

[coral wren]

Did the code lied

[safe meteor]

hmm, maybe i should try that

[sharp wing]

wiki lies to ppl

[midnight heron]

we must rebel

[ionic magnet]

im just levelling formie/sirius/helena in hard

[coral wren]

were obsessed like mad gods

Thts uh

[blazing scroll]

my Essex and Enty are not 120 yet

[coral wren]

Basically lying

Wiki is lying

[blazing scroll]

So close yet so far

[coral wren]

can u dig up the armor stts

so the EN offense thing is a mistake

Its actually the opposite

then doesnt that mean the attacker have reduced damage and the defender is tankier?

you're always at a disadvantage by attacking

but then again

I faced mirror matches

So the attacker hve more def? Can u explain it where i can understand

[sharp wing]

attaccer take 20% less damage

wtf is hard to understand?

[coral wren]

I cant do math. I failed 1st grade math

so u have more armor than the enemy

[sharp wing]

armor is same

[coral wren]

Wht does tht change

[sharp wing]

we have no "Armor" values in game

only armor type

[coral wren]

What does it do for pvp exactly

[sharp wing]

-20% damage

[coral wren]

Yeh i get tht part

How's tht a problem i mean

[sharp wing]

But defense buffs don't speed up battles

So it's 2 different things for battle time

[coral wren]

So you just hve to put offensive items than defs and u win

like my vg and main having 0 defensive items

[smoky elk]

then the current wiki statement is somewhat still almost correct, in another perspective

[sharp wing]

It's not really

[coral wren]

So it means u got bonus attack

[sharp wing]

cause defense buff =/= offense buff

[coral wren]

I mean its bonus attack still

[sharp wing]

u get no bonus damage

[coral wren]

I mean armor

u have more armor

[smoky elk]

well, because cyneko stated like that, it seems vindicating wiki's a bit

[coral wren]

So wait in simple terms, the data means ur fleet gets 25% defense bonus

[sharp wing]

20%

[coral wren]

And tht means you deal more damage cuz their damage is reduced

[sharp wing]

But yr damage is unchanged

[coral wren]

Yeah

Im enlightened

so tht means i dont need to bother with defensive items if im just rushing

If my fleet is stronk it doesnt matter

Whats rage buff?

Also i spy an team buff thing. Do you get bonus for a full faction team?

Ic

[sharp wing]

def fleets are still affected

[coral wren]

So everyone shoots faster

Than usual

nah not fleet tech

You know how theres a team buff box thing when ur building a team in the main menu?

[sharp wing]

That's tech buff

yes

[coral wren]

Idk if its still there

It used to contain nothing

[ionic magnet]

fleet tech buff works on offense only

[sharp wing]

defense

It's supposed to be not apllied to any, but applies to defense

[ionic magnet]

confirmed it when ppl posted their SS when they got me on their list

its always lower than what i actually have

so it only works on offense

[coral wren]

so fleet tech affects pvp too

But only attackers

Thts interesting

[sharp wing]

So they fixed it for def

[ionic magnet]

yea maybe

[sharp wing]

it's disabled for off when battle starts

[coral wren]

i never grind ships to 120 so its impossible for me to care about fleet techs

Besides the stats are too small

[sharp wing]

U just need mlb ships

120 is too tryhard

[coral wren]

Maybe if u 120 evrythin

Yeah ik LB does tht

[sharp wing]

only MLB, not lower LB lvls

[coral wren]

But 120 hs more stats

[sharp wing]

unlock+mlb >> 120

[ionic magnet]

120 for fleet tech jesus

[coral wren]

tryhards gotta be tryhards and 120 evrrythin

[midnight heron]

will take years to max everything tho lmao

[coral wren]

Thats some sexy reload stats

[sharp wing]

well, u need something to have to work on

[coral wren]

I mean i could be dead in the next 3 years

[midnight heron]

theoretically even impossible if they keep releasing ships at a constant pace

[ionic magnet]

you could be dead tmr

[coral wren]

Maybe my grandchildren can take care of my ships

Idk

I'll train my niece

[sharp wing]

You need to have ones 1st

[coral wren]

I have like 10

But true

2d Ai babies that play AL doesnt count

[sharp wing]

U need to write down yr accs in sacred book

and pass it to new generations

[coral wren]

What if i make a perfect AI with the same characteristics just to play AI for pc

Even if i die

It can continue my fleet

Idk how its gonna pay the electric bills tho

[sharp wing]

use gov supply line

[coral wren]

Jumper is illegal

but ill try

Its only illegal if ur caught

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

Try patting yr lolies in public

[coral wren]

I have albacore as secretary while in starbucks

[smoky elk]

[sharp wing]

special touch her there

with sound on

[coral wren]

Oui

[ionic magnet]

not bache? smh

[sharp wing]

ewww

[coral wren]

Whats deceleration buff

Also bache has 5 different types of aids

[midnight heron]

its a mini formidable

[coral wren]

Oh

Mini za warudo

[sharp wing]

It's when u call QE flat

[coral wren]

Yeah its fun when it zooms on your backline while fighting dark takao EX

[smoky elk]

that's why backline first salvos, most of the time accurately hit

[coral wren]

My vg gets erased when it goes back

Or that bisko blackhole shot

[sharp wing]

blackhole yeeting yr torps

would be op def skill

[coral wren]

i say thanks to eldridge for tht

All those numbers

My sub 1 IQ cant handle

[sharp wing]

whats the middle of field vector?

[ripe latch]

game code

[sharp wing]

QEQ

lma

[coral wren]

Middle means ligma

Yeah dig up surugay codes

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

Shes a cheating hoe with 500k health

[ripe latch]

[coral wren]

Not even helena can drop her armor

[ripe latch]

kawakaze?

[coral wren]

Havent tried yet

I know she ignores armor but shes too squishy

[sharp wing]

kawaiikaze is bad vs heavy

she is light hunter

[coral wren]

She gets deleted faster than she can deal damage

Learned it the hard way

While hunting jintsu

[sharp wing]

kawakze makes u deal same damage vs any armor, but that is much lower than torps modifiers vs Heavy

But much more, than torps modifiers vs Light

[ripe latch]

[coral wren]

Idk if someone actually managed to bring her below 60%

[sharp wing]

ppl even killed her

[coral wren]

Oh yeh

What server

CN?

Dont they have season 2 pr ships

[smoky elk]

probably have some in all servers

[midnight heron]

kill her on full auto

[sharp wing]

even in Sandy ppl killed it

[coral wren]

I cant see a vid on yr

Yt

Maybe the ytbers are too weak to kill her

i mean the Ex mode

Not the normal one

I cant find a vid about surugay ex mode kill vid

Try if u can, link me

maybe ur hacker skills is too low

[ripe latch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/528197562998718474/626798612969422849/Screenshot_20190926-081017.png?width=1058&height=529

on ex easy way

[coral wren]

How do u deal so much damage with your amagi?

Whts equipment

[ripe latch]

no my screen

[coral wren]

Thats literally my fleet

[midnight heron]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/av69096984

[coral wren]

No srsly what equip do u have to deal that kind of damage?

AP ?

[ripe latch]

first barrages x5

[shell heron]

That ayanami damage feels a little low

[coral wren]

Is tht the vid for the ex kill

I dont trust tht link

[midnight heron]

ya

[coral wren]

Ok

Brb gonna see how they do it

[midnight heron]

wats there not to trust its bilibili

[coral wren]

I dont trust myself

[midnight heron]

in hindsight its not "full" auto cuz he manual spawn the subs

but its impt

[coral wren]

Holy shit that guy is playing on auto

What a chad

His subs must be stacked too

My subs barely has any item

[shell heron]

I wonder if he would have done more dps if he was using formi instead of dork

[coral wren]

But srsly im more curious about tht amagi dealing tht kind of damage

Or was tht not ex mode

[midnight heron]

dats normal dmg tho

[coral wren]

ima post my amagi damage when i get a ticket

i just burned my 15 ticket earlier

Rushing the ex mode

[sharp wing]

u can practice

[coral wren]

Does it eat fuel

Im stupid

[midnight heron]

it eats stupid

[coral wren]

no

[midnight heron]

practice ofc cost nothing

[shell heron]

That amagi damage is normal

[coral wren]

I dont wana be eaten

[midnight heron]

cuz u dont get any rewards

[shell heron]

I should have prob showed you without helena procs

[coral wren]

Nah ik

I didnt know you can practice

Im too dumb for tht

brb gonna play

[shell heron]

Its a good way to test comps

[coral wren]

Ye thanks for lettin me know

[midnight heron]

just wing it

get so many tickets everyday anyway

[coral wren]

Irts wht i've been doing man

Didnt know practice exists

You mean i wasted all those tickets

Its ok im not gonna cri

Maybe just a little. Mk ima play now

[shell heron]

Having ibuki leveled sounds real nice

Torps seem to do more damage

[midnight heron]

also planes

[shell heron]

Shells are pretty weak

[coral wren]

look

where did i go wrong with my amagi

[midnight heron]

all rng bruh

boss moves too much to guarantee hits

so her targeted shots become a bane

[coral wren]

my ibuki is lvl 110

But i havent maxed out tht skill yet. Need more bps for soul

man. If only i got cent early

[wicked rivet]

Ibuki is a fucking goddess

I love her

[shell heron]

landing her demon dance torps is also big damage

but if the boss moves a little

there goes that damage

[coral wren]

i cant kill her with my current fleet

Its not designed to fight a boss

i guess having braindead comp can hurt u when it matters

Oh well. I'll just wing it like usual.
I dont wanna use my brain over this

[shell heron]

not that much thinking here

just torp

unfortunately I don't have torp CVs/Ibuki/subs leveled enough for this

[coral wren]

yeah. My subs are terrible

thanks to having 0 gold gear

Why did they make the sub gear painful to get

[sharp wing]

U can get 48k reward by just using yr tickets on extra Hard runs anyway...

U can not even touch ex

ofc u won't get that shiny 60k box

[coral wren]

its wht i do

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

Wait

So this event plays out like a usual grinding except its hidden behind a progress bar?

[sharp wing]

It's usual public raid

w/ personal contribution rewards

[coral wren]

no i mean

You still need points to claim rewards