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I'd love for vdir to rerun so I can get Mogami too without having to fish in heavy and light builds forever until the two come home 
and nanoda gets perma now
on jp/cn
I'd like free oxy torp
but whatever
rest of vdir gear is PR
eff, ise and hyuuga are vdir too. so many good ships
Oh I found this in the patch notes
"Constructing a super rare ship will now make your phone vibrate."

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy did they add this
Ise ret is solid
I like Ise tho
Hyuu is very good
character i mean

Ise ret = weakened BB +CVL
now u can build alot

put the phone in your underwear
and click quickbuild
if nothing shakes then no ssr


This was Sept 8th 2017 CN patch
Fetishers
two years ago almost on the dot, wow
on EN
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I beg to differ
I never built on phone
"Constructing a super rare ship will now make your phone vibrate."
even bluestacks shake
well, EN probably had that from start
dunno bout other emus
given how ๐ AL code is probs need to revert to that version to remove vibrate, lol
ya

30 min commisions 
Oh would you look at that. Early r1 person on my list.
I could maybe get an idea on the point difference needed for a bonus point early. Tomorrow because it's late


Back to Thursday maints...

We actually just had one
either CN anniv or more recent event
Think it was on Scherzo

yeah thats pretty fucking long time ago
aw yeah now that im higher rank im meeting them tougher opponents
1st days u can meat them everywhere
namagi+anything works on offense
namaEnty even works on defense and with some rng can make u reset
I found new foodie 
It's a half rusher something ...
Is there pvp tierlist for cn/jp?
aripanda if only

Kay
CN/JP tierlist in nutshell
T1-100500 VG: Azuma-Junie-Nanoda

And i'm not even joking

What is t1-100500
Tier 1 ...................... Infinity

Then u take yr Namagi and Slap there another DR

And EN meta migrated to CN/JP Meta

Lol
Well, that's how it is 
Unless some new stuff or changes come but i doubt it
only have 1 pr1 ship
that'll take too long 
i cri in 2mil exp

i'll be playing arknights before wskai even hits EN
What's AK release date even?
well, pre reg doesn't say anything
it may be next year
And i expect wskai in winter

Like early winter
I'm prereged to like 5 games now
starting with plane waifus
ending with this furry crap 
Imagine playing more than 4 gachas 
i bet wskai is right after tragicomedy
Kiro 
since they teased wskai so hard in the story
Mikasa Kai is next

Tho idk if EN gets her right away
But it's due time her 3rd rerun
on cn/jp
wait mikasa?
And what is better time for Mikasa retro, than JP anniv
what event is she from
Mikasa + Hiei limited build event
few other less rare botes
It's just build + some missions for Mikasa gear item
no event map or anything
like Centaur release event etc.

i missed centaur rip
She is permanent
u can build her anytime
U missed rate up sure
and half decent plane
think i got the plane
it's Sea fury

yeah probably have it
i have a whole page of gold gears sitting there but no plates/coins to max them to replace the purps i still have on some of my boats
Well, half of BiS gear is purple some even blue
Half of gold gears is safe to scrap
๐ฎ
Same as AL

And usually u have little problems w/ stamina games
they shove u with ways to get stamina pots etc.
well AK is worse cos you get capped in less than a day
then you use up everything in 30 mins
well yeah its just a tower defence game


I mean...
It's not even fully waifu game
I'd rather go for 10 Project
Well, it's easy, gotta go for both

2 more sidegames



Same 
It just runs on emu in background all the time 
And i usually have at least 2 instances running 
pretty sure you can do female only rolls
but not for 5*
and it's a tower defence so atleast the gameplay will be good 


Formidable's Za Warudo syncs with Centaur Ryusei



accidently won against a namaryuu since I didn't realize their Hiryuu already procc'd 
now I have no more decent VG's in my list to test against


yea its your time to get cucced


w/ helldivers?
Oh barrage
well, not like kgv barrage hits vg
But that's not 120 Formie?
120 Formie non oathed w/ HEccdivers Ryusseis and Alba has 23,28 reload
that's like right into KGV barrage 


reppu barra alba 21.68
reppu ryuu alba 22.52
hecc barra alba 22.44
hecc ryuu alba 23.28
jb
Hmm
Uhhh, I beat this guy how is that even possible? I used my worst fleet for this too
lol, he has no fleet
PR ships aren't invincible you know 
those boats basically has no stats

all prs are bad before dev30

technically you dont need current prs for pvp meta
Neptune indeed waifu and best girl. looks at profile pic NVM FAKE NEPTUNE
Nep is cocky waitress 
you dont need to tho
research is a fraud, only DR for PvP
I know Roon is supposed to be broke if done right on PvP, Iโve lost to a couple that had low levels, somewhere around the 100 to 105 range
tbh
Roon is joke in pvp
lmao
she will make yr vg killed
and shields are useless period
Not true
it is true tho

even sanrui is mediocre
How do you know, you see ANYONE, with high level Roon, paired with two other good ships
and only sanrui considered PVP CA out of them
best VG for PvP would be Yeptune
Sanrui overrated
dk what CN smoked when they tested
Roon is the new Portland now? 
Roon is meant for PvE 
The PR CA are defintely not as bad as some of you are making them out to be.

Thank you, someone gets it
roon is a pve bote, not pvp
she's too slow and shields dont block anything that matters
@hot creek
How would you know, do you have any PR Ships
All of em 
...
Levels?




Some say him, i'm tired xD
5 Zara gun bps now
I gotta buy another oil pack

things about PR CA is they offer very little for the time you put into them
Though I haven't personally tested Roon, I've got Saint Louis and Neptune maxed. Saint Louis is indeed a little overrated but still a decent tank. Neptune does the job better though. I imagine Roon would be similar to Saint Louis.
Again, what level is yours
You know, everytime I face xy's fleet. His Saint Louis is always the one surviving the longest.


hould be better with bismarck



if I saw this shit everyday id leave and never look back


Imagine seeing Roon everyday
or stay for the memes til end of time

9/15๏ผๆฅ๏ผใซใใซใตใผใซ็ง่ๅใฎในใใผใธใง้ๅฌใใใ ใใขใบใผใซใฌใผใณ 2st Anniversary Fes.ใใฎๆจกๆงใ็ๆพ้ใงใๅฑใใใพใ๏ผ ใขใบในใใฎๅบๅผต็ใใ่ฑช่ฏๅบๆผ้ฃใๆใใฆใฎใใผใฏในใใผใธใชใฉ๏ผ ใขใบในใใง...


imagine zoo vs portland debates til the end of time


How to kill Roon 


tbh out of all those three i'd pick ooshio
ajax vs douchland
only 1 L2D

it's aight u are EN player
"Rough affection" 
+10 lck to Sanrui 

Saved. 

i cleared my mails already
wha
need more 
ships give me oils

There's more oil in mail now ๐

Formidable/Centaur is the future of HMS. I'm calling it right now.
I have been getting nearly 100% win rate using an underleveled, under skill-leveled Formidable with this comp https://puu.sh/EidzU/f2b69d309f.png
vs this meta fleet https://puu.sh/EidBx/1d24d83c49.png
I am indeed having a very lovely day so far.
high win rate is related to +20% attack buffs when ur attacking
and not to mention also the enemy VG always come near your BB's aux gun range and lastly RNG
2 reppus?
good good
I might try this one, looks promising
my formie is still a baby i might need another week to test her 
I still need to level up sirius
oh my siri is 115 so could level her alongside formie
perfect excuse for farming aff
Lol please, don't lecture me about the attacker bonus. Everyone in this channel already knows about that. Also, VG battles being closer to your side doesn't exactly help 100% of the time. For example, your torps have smaller chance of reaching enemy backline. Regardless, the best HMS comps currently get about 65% winrate at most vs IJN meta and thats being generous.
close to 100% winrate vs namaryuu is something unheard of so yea
I think it's more than 65% but okay 
around 70% id say but smth like that
there is no 100% win rate here on AL pvp coz of the buffs u know
devs put that buffs so that non whale players have a chance of defeating high lvl / oather units and also leave battle functions
I think it's 70+ for me. Oh, and battles being closer to your side kinda benefits your opponent more, not just torps, but bombs and salvos also have a higher chance of hiting your backline along with vg. Not to mention your vg has a smaller area to maneuver in to dodge salvos and air torps
qe+oaths=your attacker bonus, just gotta figute out how to make qe not suck big schlong 


Portland, Roon and misinformation the other
I blame my timezone
Anyways, Formidable's Za Warudo syncs with Centaur's Ryusei/QE 406, then Formi's airstrike comes in and it just absolutely demolishes the ever living shit out of the enemy VG. It's quite the sight.


and she's not even maxed yet 
Amagi barrage barely doing any damage do her.
Sometimes cockroach ykkz running around still barely alive but thats actually a good thing because your VG won't move up and take damage from backline secondaries. She wont last the next airstrike.
I can see it working. 818 users that already have a chance of screwing with me just by getting ykk to a crawl.
More chances to hit that cockroach means she'll possibly die faster
@hot creek might I commend you for not being a disgraceful, vile amagi or IJN meta abuser and making your British fleet work without one of Sakura ship
Glad to see diversity
(Also whatd you do to level your formidable so quickly?)
F
There is no need for her if you can glass enemy vg in 1 airstrike
@past egret Langley/Houshou, 2-4, 3-2, 3-4, 4-3, 6-1, 7-2, 9-3 and a lil bit of C3.

any roon supporters know a good pvp loadout for her?

Probably washing machine, torp bulge and her PR gun.
@true crane I think you have an ok chance. Also, just in case you don't know already you can reset a match if it looks like you're not going to win.
I ended up winning
Enty could solo that 
nice. Essex Enty is dope.
why portland? juneau is USS that u can use for essex buff

Right strategy for new players
I tried fighting cancer comp just to see how it went
I very nearly won, hiryuu saved him

3 more seconds and enty wouldve won it for me
ijn weak to airstrikes
replace hood with hiryuu to out cancer the cancer
cent will launch before slower CVs and slow vg too
Both of thoe would be good replacements I think
then replace hiryuu with formie for triple ryuusei shenanigans
Hood does basically nothing
Ya but her damage is usually shit
Well, BCs succ at 120
aside Amagi
they have very poor stats growth 100-120
(And amagi has BB offense stats
)
Amagi asserted dominance by 2.5 mill votes 
if hood had 423 fp we could still use her

dat nep skin
nepnep
xD

it's fanart

if nagato can get a "sleepwear" skin. This doesn't seem too unlikely 


Nep needs some revealing skin to make her embarrassed, she looks like exhibitionist type, will make her more docile

- Up adjusted the stats of max upgraded Twin 203mm (Model 1927).
Please don't assume anything yet and wait until patch day.

Wiki still has old number, even we got +1 damage after hotfix
and i thought mle was bad

also rumor is that they going to buff the gun
so just might be the under dog
It's already op on Roon, Balti, Zara
But it's still SAP for non skill boats
-10% on light
My eyes...
Time to burn it with fire
Fakkyu

My still not moving

I feel ya
There also always events same time in all gachas...
Just to do all dailies u barely get any time left for pc games 

And can't auto that fuccing Grand Ordeal
TBH they lost shittone of customers w/ no auto function

What flag fits sanrui best hmmm

i was like eh not been active for 2 days... no cubes
ehm daily 3 cubes reward missions
lets build
and boobm formidable
love illustrious class
and that skin
holy
but is she anygood tho have anyone tested?
looks like the point difference required for a +1 is around 17 early on. Going to need more data to get a accurate number, but having a r1 on my list this morning gives a general idea
Well, I told you QE Formie Cent gonna be a thing last week 
do I need to max out a 2nd PR barrage gun, or can I just use my purple one that's already maxed out?
On what setup?
For Namagi better 2 twin 381s
Gold boost barrage due to FP and has faster reload, so more chances of barrage
I have like 6 of those maxed cause i never swap out equips 
yeah for Namagi
If you want you can certainly use twin410, or even triple381/mk6
It's not a huge difference, many ppl even prefer non-twin381
Many ppl think Roon is pvp meta 
looks lke i'm getting second ded reset... after such goot start


Oh huh, I didn't know Azuma's barrage changes with enemy locations
"With 310, there are extra bullets. According to whether there are enemies in the surrounding 30 range, it is decided whether to shoot 9 shots (no aoe) or 6 shots (with aoe).."

I suppose for PvP she will usually do linear pattern
the question is damage
shots are same damage, 6 shots is arcing with AoE, 9 shots is linear without AoE
broken
They mean gun salvos maybe?
but this
Base barrage is the spray
Upgrade adds arcing/linear large shots as well, afaik
poor uni
ye she mustyt be with that monster
what is that supposed to mean ><
compared to base barrage
ye
oh it upgrades both
but yeah in the clip you uploaded you can also see the extra 6 arcing shots
there's more arcing shots there than her gun fires
It says extra bullets
yes, both extra small bullets and a new set of large bullets
Danmaku (bullet) in Al terminology reffers to barrage
So it should be Extra Barrage shells
large bullets either arc like her main gun (seen in your clip) or are linear, range-dependent
http://p1.qhimg.com/t01435c4f6c6a82a5bc.gif
Look carefully at her first two "main gun salvo"s in the clip
that's not 3 shots, which is what her gun fires. There's more shots, which are from her upgraded barrage
Where is Peco

that's those extra "bullets" in wide pattern
6 aoe extra for close quarters

hmm idk
with MGM+1 Azuma shelling with her gun is 3+3+3+3 arcing shots
but in the clip you clearly see something like 6,3+3+3
idk, I suppose I'll wait til I have her to see
Maybe it changes 1st gun slavo

EN PR S2 when
Soon
Soonโข
wait a second
look at normal barrage gif
Azuma gun fires wide pattern?
2x3
2 salvos in wide
No that's a diff gun mounted so she doesn't fire special barrage
you'll always get gunfire with a gun-triggered barrage
for obvious reasons
so you just have to identify and ignore it
Yeah, Azuma:
15X32 spray
+
62X9 or 62X6
From the CN table of barrages
lol they have her under the second "skill" rather than first "EX" section
also, yum, 100% fire chance
in the first vid, that's her base barrage if you don't mount Azuma gun
So the gunfire is not from Azuma gun
probably the USN203?
oh, interesting, idk what's up with that
and on wiki it's stated differently if it's sequential fire
https://www.bilibili.com/video/av64950201
idk, looks normal to me
3 shots same time
un like like in barrage video 3 sequential shots

maybe they changed gun pattern at some point
or during barrage proc in shots differently
oh, true
oh, I got it backwards 
mmm
yeah makes sense
in any case, extra arcing or extra linear shots
yeah
just those sequential shots really doesn't match her gun
Mle like pattern
Barrage should apply after her second round of shooting, after MG+1 fired, so that would explain barrage gif having only second virtual MG firing and then extra bullets
LMAO. Neptune skin revealed. Fuck my wallet.
link ?
Sanrui too then
they said 3 surprise skin
monkaS
gonna lurk in ALEC
wait
fanart

no pantsu view in that art anyways
If we get double ring I have to sacrifice one of the 5 skin I'd like to buy 
budget getting tighter this month
3 surprise skins? 
dunno about that
jp got patch notes already tho
yeah
doubt it but maybe theyre saving it for next week
It's only part 2 of anniv tho
Neptune Sanrui 
Sanrui only if diff artist
3rd is saratoga 
But Shiyo letting some draw for his waifus?
so it's really divided in part too ?
how about we stop giving sara so many skins xD
I mean that would be right because we had an UR retro
give essex a skin kthx
Lok who the fucc is talking lmao
they are getting an UR retro too w/ Mikasa
reverse psychology

he wants that Sara skin
l2d
i already have so many though, im good
we believe you
There never enough skins for waifu
but yeah, If it's in part
And there is always same problem
then Sanrui and Yeptune
I just want a Neptune L2D. Then I can die in peace.

also who'd buy Belfast party dress
but it's over
when she have new year l2d
Those who dun have that

yeah the new year L2D is too good.
just get the skin
I like Bel oath anyway
belfast oath skin best skin anyways
give us essex live 2d 

How about no
xD
Ya'll need to see Carabiniere and Litt dancing 
hope i'll see that moment when monarch gets an oath skin
give oath to ships that don't skins
free skins

pimp skin and qipao enuff for mama
I think Mona artist be busy w/ Amagi skin anyway
don't like chinese shit aesthetics, looks like same garbage over and over again



what daxxam is using, namagi+monarch?
Yeah, I fought him like 30 mins ago lol.
lel
ye, betrayed his hms gang
Well for defense I often see him swap between that or QE/Hood/WS
i don't 
winrate ?
70+%
If it's high, do you have to pay attention to the screen ? 
i do, because it's all depending on vg most of the time
I mean I'm still missing Centaur and some oath, but I really want to switch to HMS, kinda tired seeing the same comp like for months
WS-Kai ready 
I would probably say close to 85% with my underleveled formidable. The problem is that sometimes you delete the enemy VG just too fast and if your VG has already taken too much damage, they will move up and get shredded by backline secondaries before they can absorb Hiryuu proc. This comp literally wins the VG fight everytime though.
Well, actually After using Wasd till June cancer is new for me 
you know who can tank bb aux?ykkz 
I know 
I am also realizing golden catapults nor Sirius aren't necessary for VG deletion
so ykkz is probably still best to use lol

the medium armor defensive CAs are pretty good at tanking them too
yea sadly
I might do it then
not that there's many
same problem with aurora for me, if i kill enemy vg too fast she ends up dying and cocroach just eats nagato's barrage with her fucking face
forced to use ijn cockroach til end of time
just eldridge and negate it jk
zara 
well, i think bel+jesus+nep is quite durable to not give a fuck about anything
refuse to use ykkz
https://puu.sh/EiotM/d61fb610f4.png
what planes on them ?
hey, are foxes =/= formicentaur or not
never used them so don't really know what it is like

currently using https://puu.sh/EiouO/a4a84500a9.png
foxes launched 1st
I see
foxes get rekt 
golden barra? Can you sync them with ryuusei on form?
foxes not even worth to test on
how much time does it take for the Def fleet to update ?
well, i meant in terms of dmg output and winrate, formitaur might be just a foxes clone
15-30 mins

except Formidable/Centaur actually wins against namagiryuu 
so do foxes, no? ๐ค i mean, seriously, tell me because i never used them
well imma put cancer on def
formidable/centaur hits their weak point
Well, from what I actually tested during the 110 era, Foxes Amagi actually still retains decent enough winrates against Namagiryuu. Like 50% and since they're Fastโข 50% isn't that bad as it sounds.
Nakaga is trash though.
Only 50%? That's... quite unexpected 
On def tho, Amakaga is total trash, and Nakaga is somewhat decent
even considering their medium armor
120 switches balance tho
its closer to 30% vs maxed namaryuus
Yeah Nakaga defense can sometimes get you with torp memes 
it's not memes
it's about backline
they often use stall too
120 amakaga just have no punch
unlike nakaga
Nakaga wasn't winning at 110, won't be winning at 120 either 
It is tho
not sure abt that but both are trash on def either way 
except on defense where you have more chance to get fukt by torps.
offense buffs get better w/ more offense stats
It's just Amakaga airstrike are much weaker at 120 compared to Nakaga
I call buki Kraken for a reason

i dont really feel any diff between nakaga and amakaga airstrikes 
both trash
both cant 1 shot VGs
huh?
so you just end up with more frail foxes and 2nd airstrike is out of the question

on def?
frail foxes is feelsbadman.
foxes about offense is best defense

dis why I am thankful for QE giving my backline shipfus some EVA 
tbh I had more trouble w/ Torps than Foxes itself
RNG torps will wreck ya.
I am actually more scared of namagiryuu torp VG than stall VG

no joke I think torp VG defense is better for namagiryuu, cause if your VG is gone you auto lose to Hiryuu.
i love it when my VGs get out of the way and let my backline eat those 2-3k dmg torps
half hp at start of fight

imagine def and off vg positioning was equal
almost dev30
Did I make a mistake by focusing Roon as 4th over Ibuki 
dunno about dropping Jesus for Aurora
That skin is really nice, but I have L2D...
i think she gained weight with that skin tho
My mistake was Sanrui
I think prinz too
just buki neptune
buki is waifu so i focused her one of 1st anyway

oni best waifu

so far I'm really liking Roon, Sanrui is not even used in PvE
sanrui is more of pvp bote
I am glad I followed my dick heart and go for Neptune/Monarch first.
I really dun like Nep 
why not

nep voice is 
Neps VA is a qt as well 
Roon voice 
How dare you 
true PvP coming
cocky waitress
need a :NepYan: emote



you and your izumo 
Cocky waitress can bake you the best cake you ever had. Can your shipfu do that? 
jp
it's translated break break break


maybe Im a CN player

double dipped
with extra spice
lol what where does it say that?
Chinese text btw says "Don't... underestimate me!" too
yeah idk where "break break break" comes from 
yep
big oof
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