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more knowledge
more comfort
more strength
it differs based on personality/culture
but in the end it's just wanting to be more
nothing is perfect
Like, you can have all money in the world, but it will never be enough
the moment when someone is trying to be perfect
is the moment they are doom to failure
just because perfection isnt attainable doesnt mean we cant strive towards it
reasonable people dont choose destructive strategies to move closer
the siren philosophy is incredibly destructive on themselves and others
but it is fast
war brings out the best and worst in things
Reasonable people don't seek for reason in unreasonable things 
tbh all these stupid shit can just be avoided if the siren actually tell us what their goal are
i doubt it
not some stupid self improvement crap
assuming their philosophy is that way
If they told their goal, we would stop
it is 100% incompatible with human philosophy
You are just a cannon fodder, you don't really need to know from their point of view
story so far are just siren appear causing trouble
which is more like azur lane, teamwork
tru
judging from all the PR ships having siren killer tech
yeah, everything is moving towards approaching the "perfect ship"
i laughed hard when vicky said why cant sirens be normal and just tell us what they want 
Sirens slowly pursue their goal, they make us evolve
it'll be fucked if
perfect ship or perfect commander?
there'd be like little to no progress
since SKK is the key to someone awaking
Look at amagi, the evolve is fast as fuck. half a year and we got a retardedly broken ship
also suppose to be another SKK from a diff timeline
i mean, that's obvious
we know the SKK is the key to huge power spikes
in ships
that's in the basic gameplay
yeah look at amagi and now FDG and azuma
thanks to the bonds the SKK makes he helps them gain free stats
the power of love conquer all?
yeah
Alter also has SKK
that's some fairy tale shit right there
well yeah
skk can breed ships
12%
power of love my ass
baseline is 0, no hearts
Superior SKK genes in ships
Mb
maybe sirens need human genes
plant yr genes into shipgirls
to mix metal and flesh
dont forget in the OG timeline humanity rejected the kansen
why get randos when you can get the best of the best
so the power of that timeline is limited
Alter with her SKK and other "dark" ships are just the ones, who broke out of another simulation
ewell, basically same
@stark raft in that case they should strive for the best sandbaggers
xD
all oathed as well
Well, it looks like you are the only one there and hq
full oath or nothing
and sandbaggers are playing "simulations" by doing naval excercises

oh god alabama chibi is really crazy in dorm
Want scrubs to evolve
she spin the scythe
You just saw it xD?
yeah i just got her this morning

Nep chibi yeets her fokin spear
It's him, yeah
Yes
spank his ass
Look at Jav oath dress chibi, lmao
2 pr ships dev30 already... just how in the world
with the power of rng and 
Like wtf
๐ power
there are ppl with 5 dev 30's mind you




And here I tremble over each cube i spend in build
it's pretty reasonable to have 1 dev30 by now, or close to one
Anniv is coming.
anymore is 
Brace yourselves.
1 yes but 2...

In en?
My max dev ship is 19
in EN

we already have all dev 30 in trophy
19? wat 
cause ๐ณ

the all powerful ๐ณ
cube projects
It's very possible
its possible lol
nano machines son 
1 hours research make miracle
they offer much more bps than normal ones
is just rng anyway
Do cube projects give more BPs?
you know those 3 and 6 cube projects are good too. Just use more cubes 
ofc
tbh dev 30 only really matter on monarch and izumo
more bps for the time
so if you really want to get dev 30 fast. 
^
image for ants
that looks normal
so small
well at least they are all 120
even in hms hood can sub monarch and belfast can sub nep
Hood is well...


My Cent just arrived today
and the other option is what QE? 
nice
and she is lame
Lol i didnt even notice
QE 
i burned like 150 cubes but i got everyone
or aur instead of bel/nep
only missing aber
im also poor again
This is just depressing
I still miss denver
for heavy zzz
i can just do daily 3 build for subs again

birmy is surprisingly good

ill be using baltimore/sirius/juneau once they are 120
with 2 carriers
dont mind me
xd

but i want to
vic+cent?
sara...
sara essesx?
yeah
thought so
i also conveniently hit 4x eagle
He likes to essex himself
and both sara and essex benefit immensely from aviation boost
as they both have avi barrages
amagi mid because yeah
xD
Well, they do actually
did with wasd
that is
she's a good gunner cl
She is barrager
big gun deeps

barrages ignore aa
so not really
aviation flood/burning damage just skips AA stat
the more AA, the less i care with essex + sara
sure, lower bomb damage, but that's ok
xD
who else has the flood damage anyway
with essex, i can run 818

another sub then
u-81
sara's flood is weaker by like .1 aviation ratio
I mean...
Essex has no data so far as i see
I read much more
but not confirmed
did wiki just changed layout
jesus christ
or my browser bugged
well, flood damage isnt reduced by amagi or FE so that's nice ;)
The problem is to make something sink

that's what covering fire is for xD


just put on the mute button
iirc fgo had a fucking alarm clock with the voice over of your chosen servant
these two drives you to suicide
kinda nice having lusty use 818
Kiro promoting Sara lewds
Should put qe as your alarm clock
trying radar/shell amagi
it's kinda nice cause her damage without nagato is a bit eh
Eyy my first necessary reset with Namabaka
against namayuu ofc
Guess I didn't coinflip well enough 
Oh, people missed some atk last night as well? Got hit too about 5 tries missed cause of this awful weather
I moved early last reset. Had to do something and wasn't worth the risk losing matches
still snagged +3
here comes wave 2 of gensui rush. 
+1 
wait...the difference between 2250 and 2180 is 70 right?
so it should have been a +2
not +1
Usually if i manage to get a +2, it means im pretty far behind
I would love to test it again but getting 70 exact is not easy
last season donald trump ( rank 1 ) gave me a +2 points , and then luckily after the battle he appeared again = another +1 ๐
inb4 fractional points exist in PvP 

2216 6/10 1 ticket loss 
how does namaryuu fare against namarprise?
On offense it's an easy murder
Completely demolishes Namarprise
95+% winrate for sure
Mostly it's just that Hiryuu soft-counters Enterprise, and finishes off
Yep Hiryuu final counter pretty much never lines up with Enty's evasion so Enty just gets cleaned off - if she didn't die earlier to Namagi shelling
On defense at least, Sara doesn't have the bulk either
Loses even harder imo since she doesn't evade Hiryuu's normal strikes
she's better against the everything else
I don't even bother to place amagi on Sara/Enty anymore either
Well tbf I just switched to namabaka a few days ago, so it's "I didn't even bother with"
although i use double evade
beaver rwg lel
if amagis are running only 1 radar i think they have a tough time landing damage on rwg/beaver

Did a last yolo pull and got cent 
Now Lena my only missing nonPR/ret ship
Hope a current 185 stockpile is enough for upcoming anniversary though...
Means I can build HMS now
...nah
too much hassle for now
ppl definitely dropped dis season lul
didnt even intentionally sandbag and still got aotn this late
i have to wait to get my aotn cause im -3

mlb balti rite there
Alabama 
oof
more concerned about oil :/
rushing to sp ate too much oil
finally some gud fkin food
- full course in exchange ๐ฎ
hmm really hard to sync monarch with centaur
tried with 2x skyrocket on cent and 406 on monarch
and only synced with 2nd and 3rd salvos
xD
wasted core data on skyrockets 
im curious, what actually matches centaur launch time then?
without like a lot of work?
timer barrages and other carriers for sure

maybe they use that aux that speeds up launch?
p much noone i guess
all salvos?
oh i see
centaur launches b4 nagato
beacon brings you down to 19.6
yea all salvos
yea but torps need to hit for slow
or so
2nd and 3rd shells benefit from the slow
yea its only 2nd and 3rd salvo
yeah double skyrocket with beacon works with 406
i need that beacon 
18.6 or so with beacon
skyrocket 
vs 406 at 20.7 or so
if you use a reppuu and vf you're around uh
19.8
or so
(still 818)
cuda would make it faster
by .6
19.2 or so
yea so p much everyone only syncs with 2nd and 3rd salvo w/o beacon
you know who has good sync timing
who ๐
escort fleet pretty much comes out right while mag torps are mid flight
probably part of the reason ykk pushes damage for my fleet
xD
besides the whole not dying thing
hmm i'll try aurora again i guess
also helps sanrui when she feels like dodging
i wonder which gives more eHP
pearl/rudder or pearl/toolbox
i'll just slap pearl/boiler 

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Guys
I heard essex is close and #nu1 kai, would somth like essex ,JB, massachu / or essex sodako + sandy kai(helena), junea, port (Saint louis) work or what would be ideal
The idea don't change
So thoae fleet comps as i wrote them both could work?
no
Rip so what would? Thats what im asking XD

meta dont change
until skills get changed/new ships added
regardless those r the only times it'll even change
Go HMS then
well since helena retro was lowkey announced when she arrives meta might change idk
I got no.monarch
use hood 
Well, on offense pretty much any decent ship comp works
rip you're missing key ships
Total rip but ive gone 200cubes on yuki and.nothin
but yea hms works just fine if you invest hard
So i kinda wanted to make murica great again
Is this a good gear setup?
Nonsence was always on top ladder until 120
SG>Shell tbh
white shell is not really great on nagato
Esp on Flag
Ah ok
I use sg + rudder
SG+rudder/beaver fine
Rudder?
too low crit rate for shell to get value 
Rudder
oh wait you have nagato and amagi?
rip
well if you dont like them then nvm
but those two can make your life so much easier 
Having Nagato and Amagi is a dream of many 
Its not like i dislike em as characters i just hate the idea of playing for the most broken characters
Just don't put Hiryuu there and they not broken much
Hmm well i kinda lvl em up now all they lack is lvl... also jintsuu maxing
makes sense but better prepare for a lot of resets 
Torp mem vg 
Is there a difference between top tier fighters like hellcat, sea fang and the 1 we just got from centaur event or are they all pretty much the same?
There some big differences
Well but i would wish for queen hms fleet but this hms shown, dont use queen or ark >< but i guess when ill finally get 1mil exp ill go for monarch next
Well, among those 3 not that much
QE is in a tight spot cos kgv monarch cent is just too good imo
but shes still fine if you want her
Have tho even anyone try maxed sodako helena murican fleet if it can do the work or just everyone went to hype
Helena used with long reload CVs, not Wasd
I used qe, doy and ark royal before and worked out really well for me if u used double aimed torps and hit
But ye, i'm using Wasd
QE kai 
Ark kai or dark ark that would be somth
Ark becomes milf lover
Hmm ... damn why it takes so long to lvl up i got no time to farm all day
Hmm
Ark best
put them in dorm for 2-3 weeks
lvl them in pvp kek
I got em there and it takes forever that mentioned amagi and nagato
I'm lvling my Wasd in pvp atm 
Around 112 lvl
2-3 weeks, ye
110-120 is 
exp depends on yr lvl and comfort tho
I got lota of comfort
Im around 380

Lol, my subs went out of their Hunting range 
reported for hax
So yukikaze is a no what can i exchange her for sheehs : /rip
Rip
Oh god another sara skin
Also kizuna skin for sara says fakkyu
We gonna see more kiro now
But all lolis in this game are legal
but some are like, kindergarten lolis, and some are just smol

vampire >_>

dunno If I should buy the 980gem cubes bundle and start saving If I get Bama 




it's kinda weird how bad she is relative to the rest
but i dont know anything about her wows version so
xD

It's just that skill had little thought
i just hear about HE memes
Her reworked barrage is pretty good
AP skill when all the BB focus shot are HE
yeah but her passive is way weaker than all other prs
well, they did make it 50/50 normal ap with fate sim
Yeah, that's what i'm talking that skill
that passive had little thought
might be good vs ws in pvp
you just put hiryuu against ws though
baka is better monarch in Naga fleet 
yeah
but to be fair, pr1 is pretty old
so
xD
shoulda buffed her to like 50% ap reduction or something
with 50% more fire damage
for truly specialized
niche, but strong in her niche
is JP CN meta still cancer or they move to fdg and azuma already?
instead of just meh
i mean fdg is more cancer, you trade invuln for like 2.5-3x as much hp
10k base hp, scaling damage reduction
Azuma was insta meta

5.6k
well, most backlines do
but if you want her to stall
just toss her in at dev 25 or w/e
for max hp
like sanrui
waste people's time
with thicc ehp

dev 25 adds 1.2k hp, and you just gotta max yellow for the damage reduction
o.O
siri or aurora works there
as a tank and better dps than sirius
but you dont want to tank for foxes?
her dps is very questionable in big picture
the vanguard is just there to help them sweep
my sanrui only breaks 12k because of sara boost and lead juneau
ykk breaks 15k because she doesnt die
xD
still need to pick up slack if all torp decided to miss
hurt so bad lel
foxes torp btw
sirius hit rate boost and aurora evade rate debuff is more effective damage
than having a limited firing arc CA gun
foxes need global buff, not selfbuff roles
i never would want to go full retard
aurora sirius is a glass cannon build
aurora siri is indeed meme
if your torp hit them then its gg
with 818
you should get a confirmed kill with barrage or shelling with flare + slow
if torp hits
not my experience
818 on what?
50 50 split
on foxes
If Akagi launches significantly ealrier
yes
yep
also slower fighter
thats my set up
and maybe slower db too
yeah
like ryussei heccdiver whatever Kaga
i use reppu sb2c ryussei kaga
vf sb2c 818 akagi
works fine for timer
hitting torp however is a diff matter
vg torpds?
i mean at least you know to reset early xD
no 818 torp
instead of waiting until the end ;)
so that kaga can dunk on them

Ryussei tend to target flag anyway
at least on namayuu
and that's often ~80% flag hp down
then they effectively split target flanks
my poor biscuit eating ryuusei

loses like 60-70%
i only see they slpit if fs is dead
big oof
ofc
if fs alive they just all fs
ofc
but fs dies after 1st strike
cause it's left w/ ~10% hp
and barrages do the work
not if my fucking torp just decide to torp the fucking VG
which if 818 don't hit
just fly to space

xD
Well, early launch on foxes 
still same issue
just reset if you whiff
For late launch it's usually FS
818 miss = no wipe
minimal time lost anyways
imagine resetting 
please, i meme
hey me too i love wasd
lolicon
maybe ill put them back once essex come out
hey, i got biscuit and sanrui there
next patch, Sara is illegal 
XD
retro and hibiscus are better anyways
we can hide nanoda but never JUNEAU

protec the juneau

where is our atlanta class buff
juneau is love
still devs doesnt release any skin of her

devs dont want to reward pvp
;)
we must live with 1 ship stuck forever with no retro art and no skins
reee
(juneau skin for merits)
true


"here's another skin from saru, thanks for the gems" xD
almost time for anni anyway
so prepare your wallet / pay check
we are going in HARD
NO LUBE
now i'm basically set w/ 2 gold sonars and 4 t3 advanced charges
2 asw fleets
but this event subs is just meme anyway, lol

they're basically ignorable except for sp
i am more of a radar kinda guy myself
cause if you ignore her in sp she gonna murder your base
Don't think i'll make it to sp today
better hurry up bois
already 3 am
for 1.5k gold and 2 cubes
you can just speed past all the mobs and just rush B tbh

the mobs are not fast enough to kill your base
unless you want 3* sp for some reason
and 3* sp gives big fat nothing as always
yea
not even clearing mode
xD
do u guys farm purple depth charges?
so at least 2 or 3 is good enough
already have 3 set of depth charge already
from C2 i mean
i would say maybe 3 4 max would be good
can get 6 for full asw meme
but sub was never a problem anyway
more like siren sub boss fs lel
well, it's mostly to make subs work like our subs
where we can either just surface attack
or we can call them in
hey they will put some more sub features on mobs / bosses on mission or events
they just need to make subs unignorable
by having the elite sub called in for boss fleet
and you think you can't farm even 1 depth charge on sos?
so basically we need subs units and equips
i farmed 3 depth charge and 3 sonar on sos alone
also sub torpedos should be able to hit submerged subs
i already have 2 set of each sub torp already
yeah we can farm on sos , but i mean the good / higher tier sub equips the better ( in C2 )
sos drops are randoms
yeah i think people should use this oppurtinity to farm at least 2 or 3 purple depth charges
c3 is radar i think?
d3 i can just move to 12-2 for drop
watching evo so got time

sonic fox didnt use his side switch big rip ;)
I mean points, drop is irrelevant
Maybe some ppl can just fap in c3 half day, but i don't

She;s a loli 


who even is the fastest backliner anyways
georgia hits 33 speed so she's the fastest bb
That got a little scary 
that is big yikes
Oof
both our final counter procced just seconds from each other
Dragons are 34 speed
could have been bad
She had something like 4 turbines?
ah
xD
When you get same guy after match again and get +1 from him again 
oh I see famine 

the new lusty?
owo

But how about second fleet? 
i dunno why you would need a 2nd sara




yeah i dont have the budget for that many saras

and i dont like her that much

Doubt
lies

waiting for essex ;)
although ill be trying amagi/essex/sara with sirius/baltimore/juneau
for the avi stack
Anime?

they don't exist
oof
thats even in akiba
o.O
was it worth? xD












Begone, thot