pvp

[ionic magnet]

aaand i got scared some lurker might see

[sharp wing]

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAK

[midnight heron]

pvp peeps can pvp with other users here

making it real (or is it virtual) pvp

[sharp wing]

i will 1 on 1 u

[midnight heron]

depends on how u look at it

[sharp wing]

Well, here is 3 hundread lurkers

and nothing happening

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

TBH, mod coming to #pvp is like a holiday

[finite valve]

even the few newbie that did join also lurk after like 1 day

[ionic magnet]

anyways its been like this for like 3+ months and noone got banned so w/e

[finite valve]

can't keep up

[sharp wing]

[midnight heron]

well there rly isnt much to discuss about pvp

[finite valve]

well we just lost daxam like less than a month ago tho

[midnight heron]

i only complain about my pvp rng

[sharp wing]

Well, i actually been here since September, but haven't chatted till like alst 2-3 motnhs

[ionic magnet]

and we can connect any topic to pvp

[finite valve]

so i would say the pressure is still there

[ionic magnet]

easy

[finite valve]

if not why would he quit?

[vague token]

to be fair

daxam did get memed on

[finite valve]

lel

[sharp wing]

lol

[wicked rivet]

of course he did

lmao

[finite valve]

if is was me i just laugh it off

[wicked rivet]

also

@ionic magnet what did I miss from u

[sharp wing]

wanted to pvp u

[ionic magnet]

[midnight heron]

lul

[finite valve]

how hard is the meme on daxam tho?

[ionic magnet]

daxam is always serious thats why ppl teased him everytime

[wicked rivet]

QE in 2019

[sharp wing]

eh

[wicked rivet]

and tru

[ionic magnet]

er like everytime he chats

[finite valve]

oh that's why

[wicked rivet]

he was always so serious about it

[sharp wing]

Shit on QE fast

[finite valve]

stupid reason to quit tbh

[lament lichen]

One thing he got wrong was about wasda meta

[finite valve]

if anything i say he got anger issue

[wicked rivet]

also btw if anyone sees me in their list lemme know so i can help u out

[lament lichen]

It never really was meta

Hard counter with slow teams

[wicked rivet]

Im gonna be away for the second half of this season

and tru

[finite valve]

wasd was meta vs foxes

after amagi came tho

wasd turn into shit

[sharp wing]

wasda was fine

[lament lichen]

Wasda only stalled

But you can just use the bunnies and beat them easily instead of foxes

[finite valve]

and the most popular comp at that time was foxes

[stark raft]

Don't worry i have QE to 120 ill lead the HMS revolution

[finite valve]

so ofc it was meta

[stark raft]

[finite valve]

stall or not it was a direct counter to foxes

[sharp wing]

It was just waifu fleet tbh

[finite valve]

the only reason why its failed is due to amagi

she alone turn wasd to crap

[lament lichen]

Im talking about with amagi and wasd

Not wasd without amagi

[finite valve]

wasd don't run amagi tho?

[sharp wing]

it does tho

[lament lichen]

Tehy do

[sharp wing]

WasdA

[finite valve]

after amagi come i rarely see wasd amagi

[lament lichen]

Back in lvl 110

[finite valve]

only wasd enty

[sharp wing]

nah lol

it was all about wasda

[ionic magnet]

gonna miss QE memes

[lament lichen]

100 they didnt do much

[vague token]

i only got matched with a few wasda

[finite valve]

eh no 110 on avrora are all cancer?

who df use wasd at 110?

[sharp wing]

i ran wasda till June np

[finite valve]

at least not on avrora

[stark raft]

@ionic magnet raise yours to 120 and use her

[vague token]

and my fox counter was amagi/(hood or dork)/hiryuu during 110

[coral wren]

That was kinda depressing to hear

[lament lichen]

Its been on avrora for like 2 weeks

[ionic magnet]

mines at 119 already

[lament lichen]

Then ykkz happend

[ionic magnet]

im getting there

[finite valve]

oh bois

elitism

tfw you are a filthy casual and just whatever #pvp

i have a serious question on how ppl handle the internet up until now if they get butt hurt over every little thing

[sharp wing]

Well, i don't participate in de-generals

that's how

[finite valve]

same

but i don't really care much about the BS elitism here in #pvp

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

i just acept that i am a casual and move on

[sharp wing]

I dun care ppl shit on my waifus, they still love me

[finite valve]

you can just check my post history here

[stark raft]

there is elitism here?

[finite valve]

i give 0 shit about hardcore and casual

[stark raft]

i wouldnt know since im casual

[finite valve]

fuck those noises

[vague token]

sara kai is the best

;)

[ionic magnet]

hms users obv casuals

[sharp wing]

HMS users are masochists

[vague token]

or they just missed out on events

[finite valve]

tbh when you are talking about anything that has a ladder in it

ofc it going to turn into casual vs elite

[trim horizon]

O just missed one attack

[finite valve]

like wtf do you expect from a pvp?

[stark raft]

I just like my titty maids blowing IJN lolis up no masochism here

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

QE slaves

why my discord dying

[finite valve]

police too hard

should stop

or police some more for a quick death

[midnight heron]

ur internet pvping u

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

just gonna give up another season

[stark raft]

QE kai 20% more dmg to bustier ppl than her make it happen

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

[vague token]

yeah but al pvp isnt really a ladder because you climbing doesnt boot people down

[sharp wing]

Size is Justice

[ionic magnet]

crap its reset already

[vague token]

it was reset 4 minutes ago

xD

[stark raft]

fuck

[sharp wing]

Time to hunt rushers down

[finite valve]

@vague token tell that to at least 2 ppl confirm that they are sick of how much elitism is in #pvp

[vague token]

i mean you can have toxic people

but the pvp rank system is 100% non competitive, there's 0 reasons to be elitist

[sharp wing]

QE needs adult retro

[coral wren]

I'd say if daxxam wasn't so stubborn on some things nobody would meme on him. He was wrong about kgv being a shit, but also he was one of a few who actually tried some different approaches

[finite valve]

and yet ppl going to be toxic either way

[vague token]

i mean toxicity is guaranteed, it is the internet

that is how it shall always be

[finite valve]

if you make a mistake in life you just move on, brush off your injury

you don't just call it quit

[sharp wing]

that u-101 tho....

[finite valve]

like wtf?

[sharp wing]

[dusk stirrup]

[midnight heron]

idk man if u were truly committed to doing wat u do y even care about wat ppl say about it

[vague token]

yeah, that's why i still use sara ;)

[finite valve]

@midnight heron my thought exactly

[sharp wing]

well, ye

[finite valve]

ppl need to grow up

[trim horizon]

it's time for me to become a rusher

[stark raft]

my amagi/monarch/hood 70% got memed on as well tbh but what ppl dont know KGV has 70% a well

[dusk stirrup]

[ionic magnet]

i-56 is the sleeper sub tbh

[sharp wing]

she is QT

[vague token]

where our eagle subs at though

[stark raft]

i want to collect the banned subs

[sharp wing]

Surcoaf is best sub anyway

[vague token]

that's the better question

[stark raft]

[sharp wing]

Cause Size is Justice

[finite valve]

size is plot tho?

[stark raft]

yeah Surcouf is angery in dorm

[midnight heron]

i-25 is actually compa in disguise
i-56 is just a thiccer i-58
change my mind

[finite valve]

don't need to since all sub are useless

they are to be lewded

[sharp wing]

Surcoaf RP tsun

in dorm

[finite valve]

not use in pve

[vague token]

tfw biscuit doesnt miss so she takes mvp

[stark raft]

wolfpack
cameltoe squad

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

[lament lichen]

Only 1 of thr new subs has a voice

[finite valve]

if AK ever become a bigger AL you know where to find me

[sharp wing]

it doesn't really

[finite valve]

who knows

time will tell

[sharp wing]

well, not for me at least

you can play and see for yrself

[finite valve]

already did

if not for the rate i would main it

2% is on par with FGO 0.75%

[sharp wing]

[stark raft]

Arknights?

[sharp wing]

I basically avoid any gacha that needs reroll

[finite valve]

yeh

[stark raft]

2% is better than fucking kancolle

[midnight heron]

2% is on par with AL

[stark raft]

Ooyodo .02%

[vague token]

o.O

[finite valve]

that's from build or event farm?

[sharp wing]

Hunt down a rusher

[vague token]

i just got one

[ionic magnet]

killed one also

[stark raft]

E-1 says 1.05%

[sharp wing]

Rusher-hunter

[finite valve]

oh event farm

that's normal lel

[stark raft]

kc database says 0.02%

[finite valve]

KC event are just reskin of the same event over and over either way

[vague token]

i mean

bullet patterns change

that's actual gameplay

[finite valve]

at least we have different BG

[vague token]

like, biscuit event had that new tech

[finite valve]

kc got the same fucking BG throughout

[vague token]

the black hole was neat as a mechanic

[finite valve]

not to mention all the fucking drop are the same

[sharp wing]

I play AL on mute

[finite valve]

they just add fucking new ship at the hardest map each new event

[stark raft]

KC does have damaged skins so

[vague token]

sadly pve mechanics dont translate to anything for us >_>

[coral wren]

kgv's strength isn't 70% tho, while hood's and monarch's is

[finite valve]

and add some shiny new gear you get from clearing hard mode

it is a fucking reskin of the first event

[midnight heron]

blackhole in pvp

[vague token]

i really wish we could get guns that mimic'd pve guns

and the siren helicopter

[midnight heron]

i only want purifier's laser gun

[sharp wing]

just get siren botes

[stark raft]

KGV's 70% is meaty though it does like 2k on all backline per hit

[vague token]

i mean

even main story chapters have guns we dont have

like the gun that shoots that weird spinning projectile that turns into bullets

[sharp wing]

KGV big shells are actually "airborne torps"

[midnight heron]

its a grenade

[finite valve]

siren only bois

so unless you can reverse engineer siren tech

ain't happening

[wicked rivet]

siren botes when

[coral wren]

inb4 blackhole in pvp sucks your vang in as well because spaghetti coding

[sharp wing]

KGS barrage is mainly anti heavy tho

[vague token]

or like the red fast shots that poi has

only poi has that as part of her barrage

etc etc

there's lots of gun types in pve enemies we could use

and that's just ijn

[finite valve]

just make AL 2 when you play as siren SKK

[vague token]

not even siren tech

[finite valve]

so much potential

[midnight heron]

can always count on akashi for figuring out siren tech

[vague token]

and yuubari

[midnight heron]

i want mah laser guns now

[vague token]

yuubari and akashi are R&D for the fleet

[ionic magnet]

only cute siren is purifier anyways

[midnight heron]

so backline can directly fire at enemy backline

[vague token]

well, the jellyfish siren is cool looking

not that she's actually done anything

[cedar harbor]

not sure if this or help is the right channel but as a pvp noobie, i've got a few questions ^^:

1. does your defense fleet get exp when others attack it?
2. how much does having a meme/low level defense fleet affect rank?

[vague token]

1.) no, 2.) not at all really

[midnight heron]

no
no(t much)

[sharp wing]

defense gets nothing and gives nothing

[vague token]

defense fleet is there to either show off your fleet or to make people lose time right before reset

[wicked rivet]

why not both?

[vague token]

or have a cool theme

or FLEX

[stark raft]

Defence fleet is there to yeet you into new season

[vague token]

[cedar harbor]

oh, so when people set weak fleets and stuff it really is just mainly courtesy

[sharp wing]

It's mainly for early season to let newbies rush ranks

[vague token]

i dunno about courtesy, it just doesnt matter

[wicked rivet]

its more of an annoying way to make attacking fleets get shit xp

[ionic magnet]

defense fleet matters only during gensui rushes. most of the time its w/e

[midnight heron]

nah man its so they lure newbs to fite them so they can sandbag

[wicked rivet]

give me your strongest fleets

and that sweet 1200xp

[coral wren]

They want you to get some points to get some in return later when you rush 😄

[ionic magnet]

it can wall off newbies but thats it

[cedar harbor]

wait, what exactly is "sandbag"?

[sharp wing]

It's when you wait for other ppl to get higher score and then attack them

[coral wren]

we are all

[ionic magnet]

lf stella guide

[midnight heron]

and ppl get higher score if they win more

[sharp wing]

You can bonus point for each 35 points score difference

[midnight heron]

so if u wall newbs too early in the season u dont get to sandbag as much

[coral wren]

what is the roof? 300 points?

[sharp wing]

what

[cedar harbor]

wall = force them to stay at the bottom?

[sharp wing]

yeah

newbies just won't be able to win

even w/ 100 resets

[finite valve]

we don't technically have a roof

but if i have to say max is 150

[coral wren]

I mean, there is an end to how big of a difference you can have for additional points

Ah, 150

[finite valve]

since you can max rush for 150

[sharp wing]

actually not 150

[finite valve]

after that it is not possible due to no more tries

[sharp wing]

with no bonus its 125

or 120

[finite valve]

oh the lower point thing?

yeh if you talking about rank 1 then yeh

below rank 1 tho max is at 150+

[sharp wing]

[stark raft]

Gotta look at points as well not the ranking, got that confused way back then

[finite valve]

you get used to it after 1 ss of sand bag

[sharp wing]

lol

[cedar harbor]

oof, got distracted, thanks for the help!!!

[trim horizon]

converting another one to the sandbag ?

[finite valve]

i have enough shit to worry about lel

don't give them more ideas now

[sharp wing]

lmao

[midnight heron]

cant not talk about sandbagging if optimal pvp revolves around it

[sharp wing]

if pvp isn't optimal

[finite valve]

on avrora

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

all other server are just whatever lel

[sharp wing]

well, not really

can't get top 3 anywhere without sandbag

[midnight heron]

if u're interested in learning about pvp u will always end up at the topic of sandbag

[trim horizon]

idk If should I try to sandbag and recovcer my 2 loss

[sharp wing]

well, i'm in same boat

[finite valve]

i don't top 3 tho?

my aim was never top 3 to begin with

only aotn

[sharp wing]

866 9/10 atm

idk if i lost 2 or 3

[trim horizon]

new phone so I didn't have my alarm

[sharp wing]

i have no alarms

if i pass out, nothing will wake me anyway

[trim horizon]

nvm maybe I lost 3 tix

830 10/10

[midnight heron]

doesnt even look like u lost any 😮 im 5/10 with 900/904

[sharp wing]

ow

well, i did lost

[stark raft]

884 8/10

[midnight heron]

see sandbag op

[trim horizon]

got Abigrailed

[sharp wing]

reroll\

[finite valve]

ppl praise sand bag and yet here we have everyone talking about how many tixes they lost

[sharp wing]

i actually see ppl like Liptona rush

[sharp wing]

wtf going on

we usually compete for top 10

cause all lose few tix on Sandy aside like top 2-3

[stark raft]

maybe they wanted to sleep

[trim horizon]

I seriously thought I had my alarm on which rings 10 min before reset

[finite valve]

sadly i am just a casual

[trim horizon]

[finite valve]

so leave me out of your try harding

tyvm

[sharp wing]

Well, i don't compete till the end each season, cause Monday morning

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

depends if i need to go

[trim horizon]

so far I've sandbagged only like 3/4 season

[sharp wing]

my resets are 4 am and 10 am

[trim horizon]

like the previous one I completely ignored pvp

[sharp wing]

If i have work in the morning it's no-no

[finite valve]

even try sandbagging for that sweet 30s ego boost

[sharp wing]

lmao

[midnight heron]

cant sandbag if

[trim horizon]

too bad, I had Haloist like 2 times this season

[sharp wing]

Well, on Sandy it's settled likew few hrs before reset usually

half of top 10 push right after last reset

and there usually 3 ppl with same score, jsut 1st come, 1st serve, lol

like previous season

5-7 same score, lol

[coral wren]

Kharnie, where you at

I'm looking for you, bruh

[sharp wing]

lol

[coral wren]

Have a few more resets

Get your ass back here

[stark raft]

fishing for rushers

[wicked rivet]

[stark raft]

[vague token]

whoa

how does he have sanrui at 120 but not ykk

ykk is super easy to level

[wicked rivet]

no idea

but

dev30 monarch

I saw this fleet a few days ago and wanted to fight it lose to it

[sharp wing]

Still debating whether to get skin, i like her vanilla

[stark raft]

I can flex my monarch if you want

[sharp wing]

[wicked rivet]

monarch's skin

big yes

ez get

[sharp wing]

[wicked rivet]

okay welp

[sharp wing]

idk

[wicked rivet]

he died

this is so sad

[sharp wing]

We will get her dress on anniv too

[wicked rivet]

alexa play DoY > Monarch

[stark raft]

I need to stop 3 cube research

[wicked rivet]

tru but you could get it now

[sharp wing]

now we have another skin

[stark raft]

I need nep 30 not fate 3 momarch

[wicked rivet]

holy shit

wait

[vague token]

lol

[stark raft]

I want off her wild ride

[sharp wing]

I love Mona with long hair tho

[vague token]

monarch is great in every version so

[stark raft]

Mommy and KGV thighs are what colonized more than half the world

[sharp wing]

qipao apparently > dress

[vague token]

she has an umbrella in qipao, but that cane in default/party

so that's another difference

[stark raft]

Apparently only Momarch Southhampton and QE have the pimp canes

[wicked rivet]

I'd colonize monarch's thighs

[stark raft]

South Ham design is so good, why is she so shit

[wicked rivet]

she's cute

retro when

[vague token]

she also ;P

[sharp wing]

PoW got that scepter on skin too

[wicked rivet]

she do

[stark raft]

Pimpcane, her face, thighs and note hairpin makes South ham so good

[wicked rivet]

also yea PoW sakura skin has a nice scepter

[vague token]

pow's scepter is very different though

[stark raft]

does the scepter grant amazing thighs + stockings

[sharp wing]

Newcastle got umbrella

[wicked rivet]

she already has those so

wait okay hear me out I have a theory

[stark raft]

the black stockings though

[vague token]

game theory time

[trim horizon]

real pvp discussion here

elitism at its finest

[sharp wing]

Waifu elitism

[trim horizon]

skins increase your wr% inv pvp

[sharp wing]

Skins make enemy shitkicans distracted

[trim horizon]

they secretly increase your overall % proc

[wicked rivet]

Massa, SoDa, and Washy with Junnie, Yuki, and Minne VG

ez USS fleet comp

other than yuki

I hate it already

[sharp wing]

Massa is a no

I'd rather run NC

[wicked rivet]

I was gonna say before

Massa, DoY, and NoCal

i think it'll work

[sharp wing]

Massa basically has AP gun

[wicked rivet]

junnie, sandykai, and minne VG

[sharp wing]

and no barrage

[wicked rivet]

yea but it does more dmg when it goes farther

[sharp wing]

minne will make you yeet

[wicked rivet]

so if she targets backline

yeet

[sharp wing]

all that flies at yr way

[wicked rivet]

bye amagi

[vague token]

how far does that thing scale anyways

like

what is the range for max damage

[sharp wing]

It's very poor

[wicked rivet]

up to 30% however far that is

[vague token]

no i mean like how many units is it per %

like is vanguard distance 15%?

?_?

[sharp wing]

offscreen to backline should be max

[wicked rivet]

yeah in pvp backline to backline should be 30%

[sharp wing]

Dork, Massa and KGV same artist btw

[wicked rivet]

okay so

nice

that explains why I love all of them

did they do PoW aswell or nah

[sharp wing]

ye

ranger and cranes

[wicked rivet]

[sharp wing]

7 ships

my nep around 2/3

I dun creds for hull unlocks atm

gonna finish some retroes

and builds...

ibuki farm will be ez anyway

second

2,700 Pounds of Justice

who has second skill

[coral wren]

tfw monarch fits to be the mc of al more than big e

[wicked rivet]

there are only 2 distance based skills right?

who was the other one

[sharp wing]

well, pr2 fate not released yet

so probably coded but disabled

like guild stuff

[wicked rivet]

wait guilds have coded stuff thats unused?

[sharp wing]

ofc

[wicked rivet]

[sharp wing]

Wait

Azuma skill already working tho

but 25%

not 30% like massa

Tho i don't remeber that...

well, she is VG ship

[wicked rivet]

which is good cause

[sharp wing]

yeah

and +50% burns

[coral wren]

Is there a vid to see her actual dmg to backline?

[sharp wing]

a lot of em

google is yr friend

[coral wren]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/av57599380?from=search&seid=16953370256437136798

Looks like nothing

i guess at dev 30 it will hurt more than what i'm seeing there

[vague token]

i mean the gun is still like

base 55

or w/e

it will never do as much as a real bb gun

[sharp wing]

I mean, compared to PR CA guns, it's worse

only bonus is 360 angle

Just Azuma skills

[vague token]

i mean 360 angle is a big deal

[sharp wing]

yeah

But the "damage" numbers you see

won't be as impressive

so it's just wrong impression

from 1st look

The gun actually have 45 angle stated

[trim horizon]

@midnight heron

agane

[void nebula]

whats sandbagging?

[trim horizon]

waiting for people in your lobby to get more pts/ have higher score than you, so you can get bonus points when you beat them

[shell heron]

to take it to a next level, we even hold 5/10 matches

it kind of assures that you do get people that will offer you bonus points

[shy hazel]

sandbagging is playing pvp properly

[stark raft]

35 too hard to calculate

[cerulean estuary]

sandbagging is disturbing / delaying your SLEEP

[vague token]

dear god bluerendar is procing so much and my saint louis cant outlast his juneau/aurora

xD

this is some cursed rng

[stark raft]

Aurora is so annoying

thank god she squishy

[vague token]

i couldnt kill either juneau/nor aurora from him before losing saint louis

no one wanted to hit =/

[stark raft]

how hard does sanrui hit VG ?

[vague token]

i mean

when you arent evaded

it hits for 400-500 per shot

on lights

[stark raft]

that's lots

[vague token]

think it's time to try 4 boiler

[stark raft]

I wish they gave you options to choose a pattern for auto

[vague token]

same

would be fun for pve and pvp xD

[stark raft]

yeah instead of random ramming

rip nanoda

[vague token]

i dont mind ramming

when i ram i win trades

saint louis guns dont miss as much at that range

lol

the problem is when vanguard moves to a spot

then sits there for a bit

[stark raft]

yeah when the ram hits and you have torps loaded

[vague token]

and MGMs are on the way

[stark raft]

[vague token]

or VG moves in front of the big seven wedge

[stark raft]

yeah that kills nanoda

Nep can somewhat tank it

[vague token]

it kills sanrui too

[stark raft]

Even with her early buff?

[vague token]

i mean it wipes off a good chunk

the only thing big seven doesnt hurt is heavy armor

everyone else gets ripped up unless rng evades kick in

i had one where both of us procced big seven and juneau was sitting at half and my sanrui was almost dead

that was with rudder/radar sanrui

[stark raft]

rng

[vague token]

the power of blue's rng is too strong

i cannot defeat it ;)

[shy hazel]

[midnight heron]

i got pinged again

[vague token]

lol

[midnight heron]

also getting bs pvp rng again

when u get walled by jint/aur/yuki u know smths up

[vague token]

[trim horizon]

[finite valve]

[ionic magnet]

hmm 300 gap is enough yea?

nah nvm wont risk it

[lament lichen]

Thats like one point bonus

[ionic magnet]

ill wait for a little more maybe he just started to push

[trim horizon]

Push more Haloist

[midnight heron]

im waiting ppl to move :>

[coral wren]

lmao

[vague token]

out of refreshes and people who dont move

makes up for last reset being lots of bonuses

i guess

=/

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

owo, 2nd nep gun

[ionic magnet]

someone else pushed

[trim horizon]

[dusk bridge]

just pushed, fought someone 9 points below me and still got +12

weird

[shy hazel]

u need more than 9 points what

normally 35 points gap

[lament lichen]

Dude probably finished another round

[shy hazel]

wait

the base points is still

12 right

👀

[vague token]

we're at the 12 point stage yeah

[dusk bridge]

nahh just relogged and hes still at the same rank, just buggy pvp point system

guess its my lucky day

[trim horizon]

I can't wait for Haloist to do his tix,feelsbadman

[finite valve]

[shy hazel]

[ripe latch]

5 battles , enemy nagato oath skin proc barrage 100% , you nagato without oath - 0%

20 fires

0%

[vague token]

london retro?

well hopefully her skill is neat like york's and not something dumb like giant slayer

[finite valve]

from tomboyish into a proper lady?

welp that's a nice change of pace

[ionic magnet]

another royal meido

ill take her

[cerulean estuary]

i already put my dev 30 meme roon on pvp , if u find her please be gentle

[vague token]

[coral wren]

gj gj

[vague token]

dev 30 sanrui club is getting more members

woo

[coral wren]

Seeing how more and more ppl start using aurora, i'd say she is a must have

lucky you

serious question now, do i want shell+sg or rudder+shell on kgv

since she is taking flag position, she eats the most of bullets. But i'm afraid of losing that additional hit

[vague token]

ive been finding that my flag doesnt die first since vanguard likes to eat big seven

and radar wont save you from ryuusei anyways

[ionic magnet]

its a tradeoff of roughly 7% eva for 7% hit

i like my thicc kgv so i put rudder shell

needless to say she wants staag more than anyone else with that setup

[coral wren]

yeah, i guess i'll stick with sg for the time being, only have 1 staag

[ionic magnet]

its just that im kinda obligated to use rudder on someone cos it would be a waste not to

my ws has beaver already and monarch wants every hit stat she can get so my only option is kgv

[vague token]

im trying gyro on sanrui atm

xD

[ionic magnet]

gyro adds what again?

[vague token]

35 hit and 8 speed

need more SPEEED

[ionic magnet]

oh interesting

[vague token]

yeah, cause ryuusei and bad luck are melting me still so more speed is the superior defense

is the logic

ill see how it goes

[ionic magnet]

so bulge gyro?

[vague token]

rudder gyro

[ionic magnet]

or rudder gyro

i see

[vague token]

stall torps arent that big of a deal

compared to eating full ryuusei

or not dodging big seven or amagi

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

against torp memes usually you're fine anyways xD

sure you die fast but so do they ;)

[sharp wing]

London retro let's you see her eyes clearly

[stark raft]

Oshit my Waifu London getting retro

[sharp wing]

And she is kawaii af

[stark raft]

Pls let her be stronk

+1 mgm

[sharp wing]

Not happening

[stark raft]

u right she has 4 eyes so

+2 mgm

[sharp wing]

Also she is Light armor CA

[stark raft]

[sharp wing]

[lean phoenix]

@ionic magnet ohaiyo

[sharp wing]

Hiryuu Slayer

[coral wren]

hiryuu slayer

🤔

Does one actually put her against hiryuu and not amagi

[sharp wing]

he has 3 heavy, so anything works ws amagi

[coral wren]

Weird, but ok

[sharp wing]

just cockblock her w/ heavy armor

[lean phoenix]

lemme try to penetrate this with my obsolete Nakaga

[sharp wing]

Nakaga on offense is ez

only Hiryuu can slow it down

[lean phoenix]

yup, just killed it

[sharp wing]

[lean phoenix]

yeah hiryuus are the bane of my existence

[sharp wing]

and Wasd

[lean phoenix]

caused me 2 losses so far

Namagi with enterprise just isnt the same thing

[sharp wing]

cause you strike between enty strikes

[lean phoenix]

hiryuu invul is twice as long and also gets dmg boost from nagato

ye

[sharp wing]

enty only good vs normal cvs

when launch time around same

[lean phoenix]

im fine with meme fleets but when someone uses less than 6 units, my poor XP 😦

[sharp wing]

My fleet already hit 120

Tho 3 botes not at 200

Too lazy

[lean phoenix]

huh

sendaikai+ibuki+jintsuukai

this might hurt..

[sharp wing]

without Nanoda it will be easy

[lean phoenix]

ahh shit, here we go again

[sharp wing]

Ibuki hurts, but Sendais doesn't buff her too

[lean phoenix]

reset or not

[sharp wing]

[lean phoenix]

OH NO

i lost

[ionic magnet]

did you murder my hms

[lean phoenix]

god damn it

[sharp wing]

lmao

[ionic magnet]

lol

[lean phoenix]

well after 1 reset yeah

[sharp wing]

If in doubt - reset

[ionic magnet]

[lean phoenix]

his kaga was on BLACK hp

fck

[sharp wing]

They prolly were overlvled

[lean phoenix]

true, 3lvls advantage and oath

shouldve seen it coming

but i had hope cuz my nagato barraged and his didnt

still didnt save me

[sharp wing]

Are you running Junie?

[lean phoenix]

i use the same thing on offense

[sharp wing]

well, Junie might make you not lose anytime

that's too offense focused

[lean phoenix]

yeah, it is, relies on busting the frontline without losing my own

juneau huh

mines still down at lv100 tho maxed skill

[sharp wing]

You cannot rely on that outlast enemy frontline tho

and Aurora better in middle

[lean phoenix]

I c

my aurora carries a pearl

[sharp wing]

late pearl is good too

[lean phoenix]

Yuki carries a pyoko and a lunchkit

[sharp wing]

Aurora doesn't live anywhere outside middle

[lean phoenix]

wait what

really

thats the reason i thought she had to mid

my

[sharp wing]

[lean phoenix]

so aurora has a "must be alive" clause for the debuff

[sharp wing]

yes

[lean phoenix]

sirius applies as long as she was in the fleet

[sharp wing]

she needs middle, also mostly cause she's frail

In any case Aurora debuff more improtant

[lean phoenix]

K so my aurora and sirius have torpedo bulges

sirius has a boiler

yuki has a pyoko and lunchkit since i use her for other things

aurora has a pearl and bulge

[sharp wing]

pyoko is gold boiler?

[lean phoenix]

uhh

pyoko is the kizuna LCK and HP item

uhh

1st

[sharp wing]

second is FP

and Siri has no eva buff

[lean phoenix]

Siri buff is +10% AVI and accuracy to CVs while boosting her stats for each Cv

[sharp wing]

Put boiler onyukie better

Siri buffs ACC vs vanguard of CV/Ls

[lean phoenix]

i see then

yeah i guess yuki could use a boiler on top of my HP+LCK item

[sharp wing]

better having boiler on Yukie, than another frail boat

[lean phoenix]

debating beaver badge on one of the cruisers, but I kinda need it on my PvE CAs

[sharp wing]

Yukie + boiler solo is madness

BEaver frankly better on Naga

Yeah FE must have on Yukie too

Something like this

[lean phoenix]

FE on Yuki?

[sharp wing]

yes

it's pretty important

she cannot reduce fires

[lean phoenix]

then i must ditch my 500HP 2LCK item

[sharp wing]

Fires is what usually get her down

[lean phoenix]

aight then

[sharp wing]

boiler + FE pretty good setup for her

yeah

100mm mostly vs foxes

And there a lot of foxes rushers

[lean phoenix]

i use a single 120mm

[sharp wing]

well, w/ 76 she fires barrage 2.5 secs faster

[lean phoenix]

as a longer range alternative to 76

[sharp wing]

single 120 is suboptimal tbh

range is no problem in vg dogfights

or pve

[lean phoenix]

true, pvp always happens within 40 range eh

[sharp wing]

Also their ammo range actually 40 and 45

but that doesn't matter

targeting and firing still should happen at 50 and 55

[lean phoenix]

good to go?

[sharp wing]

put Belgun on CLs in PVP, that can't use DD guns

[lean phoenix]

I only have two

[sharp wing]

Tbsk only can be used on +AP skill boats

[lean phoenix]

1 is on bel

1 is on naga

[sharp wing]

Naga might use AP gun

for better targeting and flight time

Belgun pretty bad at big range

[sharp wing]

unless you shotgun with it

[sharp wing]

You don't use Bel anyway

[lean phoenix]

not so much, yeah

and i can take off the gun if I will use bel

[sharp wing]

yeah

[lean phoenix]

but for naga

keep that gun?

or use AP gun

[sharp wing]

FP boost still good

[lean phoenix]

i c

[sharp wing]

If you can spare

Till you get PR ap gun

That gun shoots at enemy vg half the time

[lean phoenix]

Hm yeah good idea, my neptune is far from worth using anyway

[sharp wing]

from half map away

and AP ammo makes it actually hit something

before it runs away

[lean phoenix]

So naga uses PR 152

I c

Belgun can go to vg

Thanks for the optimization tips @sharp wing

[sharp wing]

You only need 1 Belgun on VG atm anyway

and most ppl as well

Since Siri/Junie use DD guns

and Nanoda in every setup

w/ 100mm/76

[lean phoenix]

I would like to use 100 except right now I prefer it on a DD im using in pve

[sharp wing]

Well, it's only good on few DDs over 76mm in pve

t's also used as aux gun on gunboats

[lean phoenix]

The 100?

[sharp wing]

ye

[ionic magnet]

did you skip farming the baguette gun

[lean phoenix]

I wasnt able to get one

[sharp wing]

shop?

[ionic magnet]

rip

[lean phoenix]

Though i did set up camp in D2

No i mean d2-sourced

I did get the one in the shop

[sharp wing]

well

[lean phoenix]

Right now its on Laffeykai

[sharp wing]

many ppl only got 2 guns too

I never used Laffey after she reached 100 anyway

[ionic magnet]

oh you should use it on sirius then

[lean phoenix]

Yeah been thinking about that

[sharp wing]

well, 127 still good in fox mirrors

[lean phoenix]

Ah yes but the 127 does give AA

[ionic magnet]

not like it will add significant dmg

but more dps is more dps

[sharp wing]

it gives eHP vs planes

I returned to using 127 on Junie too

138 doesn't change her damage anyhow and AA more important

[ionic magnet]

well 127 gives 1% AA reduction only on juneau actually

[sharp wing]

juneau has 105% gun eff and very low fp

any dps boost is pretty insignificant

on mg

[ionic magnet]

for AA dmg it should be insignificant also

[sharp wing]

It's msotly for def

aa dmg never considered

aa reduction is considered

[ionic magnet]

well like i said it only adds 1% dmg reduction

[lean phoenix]

Siri does get FP boosts from her skills

[sharp wing]

siri fully buffed w/ 3 CVs only gets around ~180 fp

she has buffs, yes. But base stats make % buffs POO

[lean phoenix]

Hmm anyway the difference is meh

And the 138 is just beastly on laffeykai

Ill keep it there

[sharp wing]

Siri at least has decent eff

her torps are still decoration

not as much as Junie, but still

[lean phoenix]

Yeah hence i slapped a generic quint on her

My only mag quint is on Mogamikai

[shy hazel]

[ionic magnet]

siri has torps?

[lean phoenix]

Though honestly the hitrates are similar when mogamikai is paired with other torp boats

I should probably give the quint mag to yuki

Then give regular quint to moga

So all my vg are mag torp

[sharp wing]

If you have Rainbow quint mag sure. Gold quint mags are poop, use gold quad mags

[lean phoenix]

Sure, but what is the logic behind that

Both give 45 TRP

[sharp wing]

Rainbow quints go on nanoda tho

gold quints are T2

not t3

[lean phoenix]

Ah right

Always thought my quint mag was T0

[sharp wing]

they has damage and stats of T2 torp

[lean phoenix]

[sharp wing]

yeah, this one is confusing

only gold quad mags are t3

So you either run raibow or gold Quad

and rainbow best on yukie tbh

[lean phoenix]

Yeah, my moga should be fine with a non mag quint

She tends to only get her skill proc on second torp salvo anyway

[sharp wing]

well, it's hard to land 5 on non manual

in 1 strike

even with homings

[lean phoenix]

Eh i see it mostly as my Yuki and Aya killed the targets anyway

[sharp wing]

So better jsut use regular quint with faster reload for auto and stuff

[lean phoenix]

Ye

Great, so my pvp vg now has all the mag torps

[sharp wing]

my rainbow and only 2 gold quad mags are on pvp fleet anyway

[lean phoenix]

Yeah fair

Mags arent necessary in pve anyway

[sharp wing]

well, northing is necessary in pve

[lean phoenix]

unless we talk w12+

[sharp wing]

even there

[lean phoenix]

Just sheer weight of levels then

A friend passed 12-4 with a takao class vg

[sharp wing]

This is not that kind of game

[lean phoenix]

So i guess anything passes

[sharp wing]

takos are not bad, they just have poor survivability

[lean phoenix]

Still surprised he didnt even hit a wall of sorts

[sharp wing]

And when you sue CAs, you use em for survivability also

[lean phoenix]

And the luccsacc got Choukai on his 10th clear

[sharp wing]

[lean phoenix]

Good for him I guess, he how has all the IJN CAs

Except for ibuki still under the grinder

[sharp wing]

I'm still missing all boss drops aside foxes

[lean phoenix]

Rip

[sharp wing]

SOS is a trap

[lean phoenix]

Im stuck at 10-4 cuz jintsuu aint coming since months

[sharp wing]

i only do 10-5

[lean phoenix]

The ship drop infobox ingame shows everyone BUT jintsuu

[sharp wing]

[lean phoenix]

Glorious piece of artwork

[ionic magnet]

lel i know someone who quit after doing 400+ of 10-4 runs w/ no jintsuu

[sharp wing]

Also 8-1 and 8-2 DDs

I'm spamming 8-1 hm now

might take a while

[ionic magnet]

so cursed

[sharp wing]

My dorm became SUb Dock till weekends, lol

gotta lvl those subs till weeklies

only got 3 elites 90+...

1 of em starter

[lean phoenix]

Am waiting for a full wolfpack before investing

[sharp wing]

actually wolfpack isn't even good

[lean phoenix]

Nani?

[sharp wing]

u-boats have shit stats

and for surface attacc all you need is gold subs

cause only stats matter

[lean phoenix]

My only gold sub is I168 rn

[sharp wing]

i got -19

gotta build this event

I got the thicc subs

[lean phoenix]

So basically any gold sub works then

[sharp wing]

neko and Surcoaf

[lean phoenix]

I have surcouf but doubting

[sharp wing]

yeah, for subs and sub gear you just stick w/ rarity

gold always best

simple as that