pvp

[odd schooner]

Oh you guys are using mle on nanoda?

[elder crane]

203 mle

[odd schooner]

Oh ok

[coral wren]

which is why i'm still confused, do i want to stall with hms or kill enemy vg as fast as possible, but in order to do so it seems you have to replace jessus with aur and then the middle spot is open to suggestions

[elder crane]

Just run Jun/aurora/ykkz

[odd schooner]

Ez

[coral wren]

i know daxxam has some success with sheff, but i'm not sure if she still be relevant when ppl max their ibukis sanruis etc etc

[elder crane]

Or go all-in with Jint/Aurora/Ykkz

"Some success"
Sheff is great

[odd schooner]

I had 6 resets with @elder crane just to slip into 10th place

[elder crane]

Clearly superior over Bel, Sheff, vs non-Akaga

Oh lol what

[odd schooner]

I am farming nep exp even on pvp

[elder crane]

Is my vanguard squishy?

[odd schooner]

[elder crane]

I feel like it should be a tad squishy for defense

[odd schooner]

I had problem when both vg dies

Somehow my ykkz is getting hit by your hiryuu

[elder crane]

What're you running again?

[odd schooner]

On offense i was running nep juneau ykkz

[coral wren]

hm, blue, what';s your thoughts on aur jun nep?

[elder crane]

Nep>ykkz is a very weird decision imo
Also you might have speed issues without ykkz, probs want an extra engine in setup

[coral wren]

well, in order to squeeze the most out of 15% buff

[elder crane]

Oh for HMS

[coral wren]

ye

[elder crane]

Tbh I'd drop Jun before I drop ykkz, maybe

[odd schooner]

I don't think aurora fits into hms

She does?

[stark raft]

I can try some HMS for you just lemme finish mahjong

[elder crane]

And also that, aurora is a bit weird
But if you want to run a VG that wins the trade HMS with Nep/Aurora/Ykkz seems like it could be good

[hot creek]

anyone know if houshou/langley xp boost stack?

[elder crane]

I heard they do

[stark raft]

What is your backline @coral wren ?

[elder crane]

Aurora in HMS might be worth revisiting again once Centaur releases, if it doesn't work that well right now

(which I think it probably won't work that well right now)

[steep fog]

2nd rudder

[stark raft]

Have you tried Aur with KGV?

She likes to target VG and its really fast

[coral wren]

it's monarch qe and ws

i have no gold left to limit break kgv 😦

[elder crane]

heh I was at 21 chips a few days ago
....and I've a ton of stuff I want to break....

[coral wren]

But indeed, aur along with kgv should wreck shit

the thing i'm afraid of with kgv is, will she be able to also destroy namagyuu backline since vg tends to die pretty fast to secondary shots of namagi

[stark raft]

Whoops sec

[elder crane]

Ehh Nep and Ykkz should be able to hold out a bit, probably
And Ykkz in particular will slam whatever she hits with torps, should she get them off

[stark raft]

https://imgur.com/a/r3Zi3hP

Vs various Namayuu's

Lemme swap hood for QE or Warspite and look for namayuu

But generally I aim hood at hiryuu and monarch at amagi

KGV barrage hurts all 3 if mid

[coral wren]

your nep is 30, right?

[stark raft]

Nep 26 Monarch 30

[steep fog]

thats not dev 30 lol

can see 5 stars

not 6

[coral wren]

ah, indeed

[steep fog]

hmm lets try running sanrui in pvp now that I have 2nd rudder

[stark raft]

I think Aur/Nep/YKKZ + KGV/Warspite/QE would wreck VG pretty fast

[steep fog]

which aux to run on sanrui

[coral wren]

it prolly should. i have almsot maxed aur, but kgv is still at 115

[stark raft]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjdex0oN7_Q I also saw this recently

[vague token]

currently using bulge/rudder on sanrui

[coral wren]

would have tested

Uhhh

WHy belfast tho

[stark raft]

Idk but if he had Aur he'd prolly decimate VG as fast as warspacito

No max namayuu on my list

I see a random Sara though

[vague token]

[stark raft]

what fleet power for BIS namayuu?

[ionic magnet]

13.9k

that qe 4k dmg

kinda funny her being useless works in her favor when we get ws kai

literally a punching bag but still gives buffs to rest of the team

[stark raft]

A QE buffed KGV should easily get over 750 fp

shit hurts

[ionic magnet]

799 actually

but doesnt really add much if you compare final dmg

[stark raft]

Yeah

But KGV can keep up with warspacito

which is reassuring

[vague token]

hmm

https://gyazo.com/ca8860b9e839378ca8e6b5ffd9e2101f

izumo gun doing work

[finite valve]

izumo is the AP gun?

[vague token]

yeah

triple 410

also sanrui got pretty high damage for once

cause it was stall

xD

[coral wren]

@stark raft what's your loadout for kgv? sg+sg?

[stark raft]

She has 20% more crit rate for her gun

[ionic magnet]

[stark raft]

could be stronger with SG tho

[coral wren]

Hm, staag should compensate but.. how often does she miss?

[stark raft]

the imgur album should say it all

monarch and hood miss more with double SG

[coral wren]

[stark raft]

77acc and 70 luck is pretty high

[ionic magnet]

im using shell rudder w/ staag

[stark raft]

yeah I need more staag but Monarch needs all the help she can get

[ionic magnet]

replacing rudder w/ sg radar is a tradeoff of like 7% hitrate to 7% eva rate

both works so its w/e

[midnight heron]

can i even make it to aotn at reset

[shy hazel]

dpnt rush and sandbag

[vague token]

xD

oh i found gurren

[midnight heron]

cant sandbag cuz

[coral wren]

is there a way to get +33 5 times when season starts? 1-2 +33 can be obtained when ppl rush right at the start but then i feel like you need to wait for a reset to be at 8/10 and fish for more rushers

[midnight heron]

its rng matchmaking so there isnt really a "way"

u needa get matched with another rusher as soon as u win one

or refresh to someone u know will rush

[stark raft]

gotta remember the sandbaggers and rushers

[coral wren]

i know only alex 😦 because he added me on his friendlist

[midnight heron]

da 5 refresh a day is wats bottlenecking u getting +33 5x

[stark raft]

Im familiar with some wash ppl

mostly the headnodders

[coral wren]

eh, can't really sdandbag this hard rn, cause underleveled fleet, but once i get there will prolly start doing matches in the last 10 mins

[stark raft]

mostly everyone in wash rushes

gotta fish for them early on

[vague token]

nothing like saint louis dying faster than belfast lead vs lead xD

maybe ill go back to double evade items when i get another rudder

[stark raft]

ouch,

sanrui should be shredding

[vague token]

dev 29

not quite

[stark raft]

maybe needs that 15% and full barrage

[vague token]

also 119 still xD

almost there

[steep fog]

should I eq sanrui with double eva or rudder + bulfe

bulge

and who to put pearl with sanrui jun ykkz

[stark raft]

I'd say double eva to free backline from beaver

and jun gets the pearl since you want 3rui and nanoda alive

[steep fog]

I run beaver on hiryuu

seems to work well in mirror

[stark raft]

up to you I guess

cause then you can put rudder on hiryuu

[lament lichen]

gotta love def teams who put double eva eqs on sanrui

get to watch her die in 10 secs

[steep fog]

I run tank badge on hiryuu

sg rudder on nagato

double sg on amagi

no hpfcr to eq

I like running beaver badge on hiryuu so my hiryuu lives longer in mirror

[lime rivet]

yay, done with pvp this season

[midnight heron]

swear to god matchmaking trolls me lul

[lime rivet]

now I can chill out

[midnight heron]

3-4 refresh giving me lower rank

finally

[trim horizon]

[coral wren]

I wonder if that 15 luck gonna do much for monarch, lul

[modern tree]

its 1.5% better hit/crit chance afaik

the answer is no

[buoyant parrot]

I'm going to be using monarch for a long time until someone replaces her.... If you are one of those players who maximize min-maxing then it is important

[coral wren]

Well, i have no other choices. It's either hms or ijn, and i kinda hate ijn guts

[modern tree]

You do have other choices, they will probably be about as unstable as HMS is because only through the power of someone fucking up math IJN is any consistent

[coral wren]

Well, right now i kinda hope that frenchies will get something good and give hms a good run for it's money

[modern tree]

they wont

The problem is exactly the same as I have described before. IJN now has 2 decent frontlines, which means any good ship goes to IJN and nothing else.

[buoyant parrot]

wishful thinking, they will never be better at whatever circumstances it may be.

[coral wren]

That's why amagi should have been an ijn buffer

and all buffers should buff their strictly 1-2max factions

[modern tree]

Unless the ship is OP specifically because the ship's skill mentions other ship, like wasd, thers no way to break this cycle

[coral wren]

Well, that's why what if Richelieu gets a skill that with jean will annihilate enemy's backline

[modern tree]

She wont

Unless you expect Warspite Kai target marking at 0 seconds

[coral wren]

But the chance of her being a mediocre buffer is much higher, yes

[modern tree]

I still think that it is amusing that Amagi has better FP, Reload, AA and Eva than Nagato

seems fair

[coral wren]

It's rather sad

[buoyant parrot]

whatever Amagi contributes it gets toppled by Nagato's skill if it procs.

[coral wren]

And here we are

[modern tree]

The thing is that Nagato barrage is absolutely a whatever skill when compared to Amagi barrage that not only procs twice as ofte, she can also cheat out about 10 seconds earlier

[vagrant veldt]

Amagi is T8 with 10 410s

[coral wren]

Imagine hood having bb's fp and qe's buff

[modern tree]

easy, its called Monarch

[coral wren]

sadly, monarch doesn't buff the whole hms fleet

[hot creek]

also becomes useless after killing her target backline.

[stark raft]

Just blow IJN up

[modern tree]

calling Monarchs 145% eff gun backed by like 700 FP useless is a bit much, dont you think?

[stark raft]

I don't see any problems with hms atm

[coral wren]

Ye, give e a fatman carrying plane, lol

1 layer is strong af ships, second is their synergy

If pr3 will give em another broken ur i'll laugh my ass off

[odd schooner]

UR Prinz

[shy hazel]

ijn will remain supreme as long as al jp exists

need to milk the jp cows

[buoyant parrot]

EN is not milkable unlike the jp cows?

[shy hazel]

if you compare profit from jp to en

its 100:4 ratio

because "f2p pride" isnt a thing in jp

people will spend if they like the game

[modern tree]

f2p pride does not cut into your profit. You go into f2p market with an assumption that only about 3% of your users will actually pay. The goal is always expanding the userbase not milking a certain region.

[shy hazel]

whatever the case is

that is the reason why there is strong ijn bias in the game

and you cant do shit about it

[buoyant parrot]

spend more

[shy hazel]

and 3% is a myth in jp

3% is meant for ultra spenders

not the normal spenders

at least 50% of people in jp spend

3% are the ultrawhales

tho in en

3% are the actualy ppl who pay

[modern tree]

97% of statistics are pulled out of my ass

[shy hazel]

its from that fgo post anyways

p sure

the 3% myth

[stark raft]

strong ijn bias from kancolle to AL

but hey atleast our Jun doesn't perma die

[shy hazel]

at least

hms doesnt suck yet in kancolle

[stark raft]

just give KGV glasses

and she's already ooyodo

even has same hairstyle and VA

[coral wren]

Lmao, just wanted to say she is a copy of pow, because her artist suffers from that notorious sameface decease

And it looks like i accidently scrapped pow

[hot creek]

People say KC is IJN bias but all the gaijin ships in KC are great and treated well.

KC Saratoga and Iowa 👌 👌

[stark raft]

i dont remember stronk gaijin ships except Iowa

[hot creek]

Warspite is amazing too

the only ship I have oathed in both games

[stark raft]

yeah I wish they didnt murder saratoga here

KC saratoga is amazing

not some ear cancer magical girl here

KGV is just ooyodo + saber combined and I love it

[hot creek]

Even Nelson gets better treatment in KC

[stark raft]

Warspite VA was fubuki/soryuu/hiryuu

[modern tree]

honestly, you can't really trat non ijn big 7 worse than AL did

[stark raft]

pretty funny she's shelling IJN now in AL world

[shy hazel]

why would u think

a japan only game doesnt have bias for japan

[hot creek]

wow I had no idea. Warspite's VA has quite the range it seems.

[shy hazel]

[stark raft]

warspite VA is QE and saratoga as well

so warspite + qe is her talking to herself

[shy hazel]

big 7 in this game

is a victim of being the first ships in the game

that will have the inevitable powercreep

tho at release the us big sevens are trash at start

well the event got wash which was broken at that time

so it was acceptable

[stark raft]

atleast i can trust AL

to give an op musashi

[modern tree]

according to answers Intern gave at AX, I quote "There hasn't been a plan to bring Yamato and Musashi to AL"

[stark raft]

well then

[hot creek]

Seems AL devs don't wanna make the same "mistake" KC devs did. By releasing them too early. Apparently the story goes, that KC devs didn't think the game would last very long so they released those two relatively early.

[stark raft]

guess I have to wait 5 years

[shy hazel]

gotta have something to powercreep current ijns

so ijn will stay supreme in the future

[stark raft]

throw hms a bone yostar

give us HMS nanoda

lucky jervis

[cerulean estuary]

im gonna put my MEME dev 30 roon on def once shes done

[sharp wing]

You gonna wall some casuals hard

And i slept through reset again

On top of not having internet half day

[modest scarab]

Shiranui, Kagero, Ayanami, or Jintsuu, who's the best for solo pre load torp?

[sharp wing]

Jin if solo

[modest scarab]

Alright, thank.

[sharp wing]

Tho if chain torps proc that gonna hurt on Kagerou

Waiting on good girl Naka retro someday

[midnight heron]

its nakanna happen 😼

[sharp wing]

[vagrant veldt]

chain torpedo starts on a 10s CD

[sharp wing]

I thought tho, cause i never seen it work on preload, but some ppl kept telling it activates on preload

well actual cd has not much use, cause torp usually reload 20+ sec, but it probably prevents it from chaining, like carriers fast take off

[midnight heron]

imagine pvp with 3 chain torp users with no cd

[sharp wing]

so we cannot chain more than 1 chain torp

Well, cariers fast taek off has no cd, wonder if CA's double gun has cd too

I never seen double gun chain proc

[vagrant veldt]

double gun has 5s

[sharp wing]

Hope they don't nerf fast take off

[vagrant veldt]

I think they changed that skill at one point

no longer infinite

[sharp wing]

they changed double damage on cvs

[vagrant veldt]

cap I believe is 3 procs

[sharp wing]

Tho i think only on RNGer

double damage on her as 10 sec buff iirc

so she can chain fast takeoffs w/ double damage

Well need to test some fast take offs to see, if they have actually limit, tho that gonna be really hard

So fast take off should be infinite?

So they only changed double damage on her to be duration buff instead of 1 time

She's really fun to use though. I remember having her chain 400k damage

yeah

It's rare, but when it happens, you are happy like a kid

[cerulean estuary]

someone use gold swordfish bomber on hiryuu , just encountered one ( forgot the commander name )

[shy hazel]

dm him

say good meme on hiryuu

[steep fog]

I encountered one too

was like why tf my vg so slow

[modern tree]

Most people will run that for a while because its shiny and new

It also seems really good

[steep fog]

also are people running eva gear on hiryuu

or still cata tank

[modern tree]

If you run mostly into mirrors then tank + rudder/badge is better so I'd not be surprised

[steep fog]

think all my loss was from mirror

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

got walled by owari da because amagi cant solo kill her and biscuit and sara shoot into invuln xD

had to swap to 380mm

[shy hazel]

you deserve it for using sara

[sharp wing]

[modern tree]

just play good ships, like HMS

[sharp wing]

Damn masochists

[modern tree]

not sure what you mean

[hot creek]

Shattered my daily nep/monarch BP gain average yesterday and to top it off, game gave me an 8 hour nep so I can properly sleep feelsgoodman

https://puu.sh/DPscs/d8a42f9e68.png

[trim horizon]

pogu

[sharp wing]

[steep fog]

did u spam cube research

how u get bp so quickly lol

[modern tree]

neet life + using cube researches to reroll

[hot creek]

I got lucky

[modern tree]

I imagine I'd be at about the same level if I didnt miss like third of the research time because I am sleeping or busy

instead I am like 5bps off monarch 30 and nep at 25

[hot creek]

Spammed cube research when no nep/monarch focus was available. Never even whaled for cubes, still have 500+ left

[vague token]

[shell heron]

I never saw one. Except that one time right when I was about to sleep

[steep fog]

I run cube research till I have like 200 left

[sharp wing]

I'm below 200

Last events were pretty bad rng

[steep fog]

cos I never have enough gold to spend 200 cubes in event

[sharp wing]

Well, i got all event ships including collabs since server started. But often it takes more than 200 cubes per event. Of course i never bought them, but can't run cube projects like this right now. Maybe after we get into rerun phase

Tbh a lot of ppl whaled there

Since collabs dun rerun

I seen nep fleet w/ costumes too

[shell heron]

Split rate up was fun. The only event that made me use more than 160 cubes.

Now I'm sitting on too much cubes. I should do those 0.5hr 8k 5 cube projects more.

If I ever see one

I forgot the cost of the ship specific one because I never seen it often

but 3 cubes you say

[sharp wing]

wasn't it 8k 3 cubes?

ye

[vague token]

it's mostly gold for the 30 minute one

[shell heron]

I'll take it. have 1200 cubes rn doing nothing

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

why isnt there friend/guild gift yet again

[sharp wing]

what the heck

[vague token]

xD

(limit 1 per day given, 1 received of course)

[sharp wing]

I'm below 200

At least i'm done with this event

took only 80 cubes thankfully

Bisco was harsh

[vague token]

yeah i managed to get all the builds in about that much too

the last one i was missing was big mamie

[sharp wing]

I sit at borderline no cubes during bisco for almost a week

[vague token]

=(

[sharp wing]

That was stressful

[vague token]

yostar give us daily gifting so we can help our friends in need! xD

[shell heron]

Add a gifting point reward shop and that might give me incentive to donate some cubes

[sharp wing]

Well, back to RPing Iron Bottom Sound at D2

[vague token]

i think i have 4 le mars drops from d2

ill get another staag before i get a 2nd mle at this rate

[shell heron]

another STAAG is good

[vague token]

16/25 for staag

6/15 for mle

;)

[shell heron]

All I need is a 2nd STAAG myself and my pvp fleet is fully geared

18/25 I believe

[vague token]

i need 2 more

1 for biscuit/nagato

1 for sanrui

wait first rudder?

big oof

[shell heron]

sanrui using a staag. Is that necessary?

[vague token]

i mean

her aa is w/e

+10 hit for cas is nice

0 luck you know

a double sg backliner has more hit than sanrui

(barely)

[shell heron]

I recently made my first rudder as well. after 2 nepguns, 2 MLEs, 1 SKC, AA radar, almost 2 STAAGs, and some other gear I will never make

well then, I need a 3rd staag next

[vague token]

lol

[shell heron]

whoops, I just learned I was using the quint 533 on yuki instead of the rainbow mags

when did that happen

[sharp wing]

Yukie been bad doge, prolly why

[vague token]

she works hard though

to protect the backline

[sharp wing]

I love how Yukie shamelessly RAMs enemy big ships to the bottom

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

gotta rush gensui after this reset w/ my -7 tix

Found WasdSara

[shell heron]

I'm fairly sure I can hit top 10 so I'm just gonna keep sandbagging away

[sharp wing]

I just might sleep this morning again

-12 tix might be problematic

Bel just hit 120 from pvp

[shell heron]

It's always one of you guys that stall me

Blue

[sharp wing]

[shell heron]

He stopped using Sheffy and switched to Aurora

[sharp wing]

When you refresh into same leftmost guy...

[shell heron]

was wondering where my VG went

[sharp wing]

Use Sanrui

Well, there goes my Gensui

[shell heron]

would love to, yostar give me all the Sanrui cube projects please

[sharp wing]

Inb4 refresh projects more than once per day w/ gems

[vague token]

lol

[sharp wing]

You can laugh while you still can

[vague token]

ok

[shell heron]

10 gems for the first extra refresh. +5 for each one after that

[sharp wing]

PR BPs in merit shop

Gensui race is live

lit

[shell heron]

It's in the game already?

[sharp wing]

This farm makes me want to buy more dock space

[shell heron]

just get 500, you'll be set for a long while

[sharp wing]

well, 420 atm is not really cutting it

probably need retire some purins

[shell heron]

use them

[sharp wing]

if i could

[shell heron]

been MLBing ships I don't ever plan on using recently

[sharp wing]

i mlbed all i could atm

1/3 of SRs in dock are purins

[shell heron]

that's a lot of purins

[sharp wing]

yeah

well 8:3

ships:purins

rows wise

PURI!

[charred sable]

That's with 3 lost attacks this season :(

[sharp wing]

I already got booted from top 10 with my -7

But managed to get Gensui anyway

rushing on Saturday reset always works w/ lost tix

[shell heron]

because big rush was yesterday's 2nd and 3rd reset

[sharp wing]

yeap

I never bother with those unless i have 0 lsot tix

And even then, i prefer to wait Saturday for bonus

[shell heron]

I'm happy with yesterday's sandbagging the rushers. +9 during the rush period

[sharp wing]

lol

hard to do that on Sandy anyway

We barely have few gensuis few hrs after 1st Friday reset

[coral wren]

Keripo, is it possible to get +33 on your third 4th and 5th match during the first reset?

[shell heron]

4th maybe, 5th is very rare

[coral wren]

Well, according to his sheet

he managed somehow to get it

[sharp wing]

if you get 4 30+ you can't get 5th that far

cause rank change

but i never got even 3 30+

[coral wren]

Hm, then i imagine you should leave it at 3/5 at start

[shell heron]

you can, just gamble on the 2nd reset of the season

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

spend like 2, and then on the second reset try and fish for rushers

[sharp wing]

i refresh right after reset into rushers

[shell heron]

vysaga and famine prob do something like that. they somehow get 2600+ scores every season

[sharp wing]

But i rarely awake right after reset on monday morning lol

[shell heron]

if they don't miss a match

[sharp wing]

cause EU

Gib GMT time

[coral wren]

Ye, when we are playing most of the server is sleeping

there you go with a dead lobby

[sharp wing]

Well, i prefer to sleep into reset, than not sleep before work, lol

[coral wren]

that's kinda unfair

[sharp wing]

fck that

and lately you can't even do 10 tix without +9 after 1st reset a day

It's pretty incompatible w/ sleep

[shell heron]

I should have refreshed my list. Should have known High Ground, Clef, and DARKmodp won't move this early on

[lament lichen]

You can get 35 on your 4th match within your first 5 attempts but not in the first reset due to people only having 5 attacks

[coral wren]

iirc this winter ppl here were doing their matches on the second reset only, but i don't really know what would be more benefitable, getting a moderate amount of points during first resets, or getting a lot on second and then decaying fast on following ones

[lament lichen]

Uh i do 3 attacks in the first reset

Try to get close to 99 points if possible

[vague token]

depends on schedule probably

i prefer to go for 33/32 for first 2

then sleep

then wake up hopefully another 33

[shell heron]

I like sleep so I don't do 2-3 matches on the first reset

On average my 2nd reset 5 goes like 38,35,33,25,22

[lament lichen]

Honestly the first 5 matches doesnt really matter that much

Its all about how many bonuses you can get

[shell heron]

that is true, usually the 2nd or 3rd day screws me with a dead reset

I use to be able to get +2 or +3 per reset once the base points become +10 on the 2nd week

but these last 2 seasons even a +1 is lucky

[vague token]

sandbagging? more like back to d2 mines

never leave

[lament lichen]

Ofc

[shell heron]

sandbagging is my break from the mines

[vague token]

xD

this is why i didnt farm akagi, 6/15 on first non shop gun lol

i might just barely get one

before end

[shell heron]

Vysaga, you think you'll get 2600+ this season?

Famine is out with a match down

[lament lichen]

Im not trying this season

Been busy with ff14

[coral wren]

shadowbringers expansion?

[lament lichen]

Yeah

[vague token]

xD

[shell heron]

I see, so r1 is up for grabs

[vague token]

i could possibly contend if i didnt lose a match late at night while speed running super neptunia

xD

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

I'm poking on some early access stuff out of boredom

[vague token]

if risk of rain 2 isnt one of those

imma be sad

2 purple mle prints

oh boi

the curse

[sharp wing]

i'm on my 1st gun too

can craft 3 purples

[empty grove]

Luckily season reset is in the afternoon for me

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

[shell heron]

you live in the timezone

I stay up to 2am for every season end

[sharp wing]

Better than all the way into morning, like EU pps

In GMT reset is 8 AM

[lament lichen]

[hot creek]

After much deliberation, I finally oathed KGV

now I regret not getting the skin

[sharp wing]

Tbh, her regular skin better

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

Big boobs in uniform

[finite valve]

oathed and skined her day 1

what a noob

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

[stark raft]

Something about thigh highs and a ceremonial saber does it for me

[sharp wing]

Those legs in vanilla

[stark raft]

it's the zettai ryouiki

like saber + rin combined

[sharp wing]

That skirt is too short

[stark raft]

Nah it's definitely waist skirt

she's like 80% legs just like monarch

[sharp wing]

Mona's legs are national treasure

[coral wren]

Surprisingly, the majority of default skins are way better than anything else

[sharp wing]

Why, that's pretty common case

I often prefer vanilla art

some games tend to go way off with skins too

[vague token]

swords are good too

[ionic magnet]

thats subjective
also qe default skin makes her unplayable to me kek

[sharp wing]

Nagato loli makes it almost vomit invoking to me

queen with her corgi

[shell heron]

What the Nagato sleepwear skin? That's bait for us who use her as secretary

[sharp wing]

Pervert! Hentai! Lolicon!

[wicked rivet]

Not using lolis?

You are weak

Your bloodline is weak and you will not survive the winter

S m h my head

[sharp wing]

[wicked rivet]

[vague token]

🚓

[coral wren]

there are no lolis in this game

they are all over 60 years old

[sharp wing]

You will say that to police

Co-main-der!

[vague token]

xD

[coral wren]

Just show the police her passport and tell em to fuck off

[half silo]

Weird flex

[coral wren]

2351
Eeh, this isn't even close to 2600

[half silo]

The highest I can get rn would be 2551

1 day still left

Sadly missed 3 fights cause fell asleep one time before finishing exercises

[odd schooner]

@ionic magnet it's been a while since I got queued with your fleet on the left side. Was checking named then i notice thr monarch name

Had to position hiryuu far away

[shell heron]

I just had you before reset too

that name

[ionic magnet]

LOL i want to rename my backline tbh but i still need 2 weeks

[shell heron]

400 cube meta boat

[ionic magnet]

[midnight heron]

fought someone lower rank than me and got +0 instead of -1 wut

[ionic magnet]

did you check his score? not sure if same score gives +0 or - 1 actually

[midnight heron]

didnt check cuz i had just finished fighting another guy and it shudve updated the scores

[ionic magnet]

maybe he moved before you finish your match

[midnight heron]

very much coincidence but still possible so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[shy hazel]

gdi

im sure ill drop from top 10 this season

all my picks are bad lol

no bonuses since gensui started

[cerulean estuary]

will probably get gensui merit reward but fall out of top 10 this season

blame the fish sauce

[shy hazel]

[shell heron]

I don't know if I can get gensui this season if I don't rush

[shy hazel]

?

u joking?

u have higher points than me

lol

ofc u can

im sure i can

[shell heron]

I see a max score of 2593

[shy hazel]

you can

im 100% sure i can

so u can too

yes we can

[shell heron]

I suppose I got a good chance. since both vysaga and famine are out

[shy hazel]

vy is out?

wtf?

i shouldve tried this season

[shell heron]

he said he wasn't trying this season

[shy hazel]

im too deep in another game so i just wtv farmed

[shell heron]

the one season where it's a free for all

[shy hazel]

nope

not yet

i saw kamita lurking this season

[shell heron]

I saw kamita in the rankings before gensui rush

he was 2 points below me then

[shy hazel]

highest top rank i can aim for is prolly

8 9 10

u can prolly land in 1-3

直観

unless ofc

u lose

or u rush

[shell heron]

I stayed up sandbagging every season end

it's not ending now

losing tho sounds possible

[shy hazel]

i never stay up late on two resets

i just do it my way

tho i need to wake up early on a reset

tho it fits my sched cos im on half graveyard shift

work at 3am finish at 1 pm

[shell heron]

just in time for new season reset

[coral wren]

Lmao. I wonder if mod who made me do this knows anything about fake virtual phone number

Have seen quite a few fleets like this

What is the matter with that brat

they put 818 on her, but it doesn't really matter if she is guaranteed to die fast, providing no stall whatsoever

[empty sinew]

memes

[coral wren]

i was thinking they are trying to reproduce that bug that makes you dc

[empty sinew]

so that never got fixed?

lol

[coral wren]

nah, it got fixed, but apparently they either don't know or it is indeed a meme

[empty sinew]

if it got fixed, the akagi-chan is quite literally useless now

[shy hazel]

got my 3rd gun

minimum aim for this event achieved

still have tons of oil

wonder if can aim for 4th

[empty sinew]

tons of oil

[shy hazel]

i still have

25k?

problem is time

when does the event end again

[empty sinew]

on the 10th

still a couple days

[shy hazel]

i guess i can make 1-2 more

mm nvm

i guess 4 guns is enuf

[empty sinew]

i wanna make 1 more but the drop rates are tilting me

[steep fog]

cmon game

let me rush to gensui

[shy hazel]

at least

tbh

i think we only need 3 guns most for pvp

[steep fog]

thinking whether I should farm 6th gun

[shy hazel]

yea

i only started farming like 4 days ago

i didnt get jb on first 4 days pf event so din have motivation

heh

anyways

final reset of the season

means

gotta save all resets for not losing points

[midnight heron]

how u guys get so many 😮

im at like 34k event points and havent even made 1

[shy hazel]

i do boss

i got most from boss

very few from elites

if u doing that

[midnight heron]

i think its more a problem of drop rate

i do full clears anyway

as in fight boss

[shy hazel]

pray to buddha i guess

[vague token]

lol

[midnight heron]

wud take a miracle if i can make 2

[vague token]

it'll take a miracle for me to get 1

xD

[shy hazel]

there was also like

20k points i got

but no bp

then it flow like water after that breakthrough

[midnight heron]

[shy hazel]

tho tbh im alrdy fine with 3 guns

but ill just try to use up all saved oil

saved up 40k oil just for this event afterall

lol

i think neko saved like 80k oil

1-1 is efficient but it slow asf

[stark raft]

you broke through the wheel of salt

won against rng

[shy hazel]

rng bows down to china

chinese method always works

quantity > quality

[stark raft]

just had to channel my inner chinaman

play mahjong while farming

easy bp's

[sharp wing]

Is JP getting Attack on Titan collab

[cerulean estuary]

7 more prints to dev 30 meme ROON

[ionic magnet]

4 more for my monarch

[cerulean estuary]

ibuki and izumo always appear on me , got 130 , 110 of them smh

[ionic magnet]

thats a lot of fodders 👀

mine are around 80-90 only

120 uncap kinda delayed my research cos always out of coins

[steep fog]

think I did too many gear researches

got 2 nep guns and 2 rudders already

[shy hazel]

i did too many prs

[elder crane]

I still have no coin to run PR projects unless I have to

[shy hazel]

soooo

how many french dd guns u ppl got?

[elder crane]

120 uncap, then Bis, then more 120s and now retros too

[shy hazel]

i only got 3

overall

[elder crane]

3 for me and 1 one on the way

[shy hazel]

im trying to get one more

[elder crane]

4 total will probs be my final count

[shy hazel]

but no bps since last one

but still got 3 days anyways

[steep fog]

I got 5

[shy hazel]

if only i didnt get cucced by jd and had motivation to farm early

i wouldve ended with about the same

[modern tree]

I will be lucky if I finish with 1 extra : )

[shy hazel]

so did people discuss the topic again

[elder crane]

I've had 0 motivation to farm period

[shy hazel]

uss dd gun vs french gun

french gun doesnt have aa right

[steep fog]

for whom?

[shy hazel]

i guess ill try to finish with 4

so ill be mainstream too

iirc jp doesnt use french gun much in pvp

more like

no one uses dd gun much anymore

[elder crane]

Yeah cause they never fully left the CV meta (imo)

[shy hazel]

ca guns or nep gun is more used i believe

as aux

and mgs

the only dd people field is nanoda

which doesnt use the french one anyways

[elder crane]

Well for main fleet once PR guns come no reason to use DD guns

It's just Jun and Sandy left

[steep fog]

theres sandy kai and juneau

[shy hazel]

tbh ppl dont use much jun in jp last time

sandy kai alot of users tho

lol

[steep fog]

can jun even leave the meta

[elder crane]

Cause JP I hear overall more about waifu meta

[shy hazel]

jun is more of a cn thing

which infected en

i mean

jun lol

[sharp wing]

Waifu wars is true pvp

[elder crane]

imo cause CN takes its PvP more seriously

[shy hazel]

zack is in jp now hey

maybe he top 1 every season

[sharp wing]

[steep fog]

[sharp wing]

Waifu always on top

[steep fog]

whats top CN comp nowadays

hms?

[sharp wing]

azuma so ijn

or ijn azuma + wskai

[steep fog]

is azuma that OP

[elder crane]

Basically yes

[sharp wing]

By virtue of her sole existence

She was made op

azuma let's you field 4 main ships

[modern tree]

her gun shoots backline so the game is 4v3

and she gets buffed by Nagato

[steep fog]

[sharp wing]

She is VG BC basically

[steep fog]

does she have BC hp

[sharp wing]

yeap

[modern tree]

more or less

[shy hazel]

[elder crane]

And because of the first pt her gun doesn't have the firing angle issues of most CA

[shy hazel]

that's why ijn is forever endgame meta

[sharp wing]

her guns are 360

[shy hazel]

she has crazy eva too

[modern tree]

Amagi and Nagato are never going away unless they get a targeted nerf for pvp only

[sharp wing]

and she is fast

[steep fog]

so nagato amagi wskai azuma nanoda and who else?

[sharp wing]

jun

[steep fog]

jun?

[sharp wing]

Junie hides behind Azuma onee-san

[steep fog]

so same shit as EN

EN is locked into this meta 4ever

[elder crane]

Well Hiryuu over Wskai still imo
Until FdG steals the spot

[steep fog]

[elder crane]

We getting new USN ships soon though

[sharp wing]

Iowa

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

Bring the big guns

[elder crane]

Well Iowa is still 406s

[sharp wing]

406 mk7s

[modern tree]

we are not getting absolutely anything that will not just go into Nagato Amagi Azuma Ykkz

[sharp wing]

gold ones

[modern tree]

if the ship is sufficently op, it goes into the lineup, if it's not then it never sees pvp play

welcome to #pvp

[elder crane]

Unless there's some serious synergy restrictions

[steep fog]

[elder crane]

Problem is that one ship's power won't displace namagi-azuma-ykkz

[steep fog]

so hms isnt top tier?

[elder crane]

Unless it's serious powercreep

[sharp wing]

Biscuit failed

[steep fog]

I thought qe monarch ws kaican work

[elder crane]

It is if we ever get a brief window between WSkai and PR2

[sharp wing]

Anything still pretty much works offense till pr2

[elder crane]

Namayuu-non-azuma and Wskai HMS is pretty evenly matched

Well, anything decent

[modern tree]

HMS is a meme counter comp that can force their way through the meta, on offense, if you build it correctly

[sharp wing]

Then Azuma start walling off weaker tiers

[steep fog]

yikes

[modern tree]

but its not "high tier" or w/e no

[steep fog]

PR2 ship starts working from dev10?

[sharp wing]

well, not really

most 25

[modern tree]

PR ships start working ad dev20/25 because before that they have no stats

[elder crane]

Yeah non-azuma vs azuma supposedly dips into sub-50 winrates possibly

[steep fog]

yamata got fdg dev 26

[sharp wing]

[steep fog]

ultra whale power

[sharp wing]

decisive prints gonna be madness incarnate

[steep fog]

u need like what? 500?

[elder crane]

Their droprate is lower is the biggie

Since they're higher rarity

[shy hazel]

unless they do a stupid thing

[sharp wing]

and events give like 5

[shy hazel]

and release a copy of nagato amagi for uss

then it will change

[elder crane]

Also their general-bps are handed out less (PR2 general bps are split between rainbow and gold rarity)

[shy hazel]

there is an equivalent alaska class for that big tits fake bc in the frontline

[elder crane]

USS needs more than that unless the factional buff is super OP, imo

[sharp wing]

Alaskas will be washboards

[shy hazel]

realistically

i can see the devs do something more stupid

[elder crane]

IJN is broken cause it's 3 other ships there that are independently broken

[shy hazel]

and release enty kai

with faction buff

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

and iowa will just be a poor copy of bisko

[steep fog]

blame amagi

broke pvp on her own

[elder crane]

Nagato
Amagi
Ykkz
Azuma

[steep fog]

[elder crane]

The last 3 are in basically every comp

[sharp wing]

Ykkz already irreplaceable too

[shy hazel]

ykzz is just too good

in any meta

[elder crane]

So USN meta would require at least 3-4 more OP ships to displace IJN
Unless factional buff is ridiculous

[shy hazel]

well at the least

uss still has op individual ships

even just a broken factional buff ship should be enuf

[sharp wing]

USS always had best solo ships

[steep fog]

just kai enty

[shy hazel]

tho it needs to be more broken than nagato

[steep fog]

with 20s invul

[shy hazel]

enty kai feels dumb

cos wskai can still 1 noscope cvs

[safe meteor]

is Piercing shells tested if it stacks?

[sharp wing]

making good ship UR is not what they intended

[shy hazel]

and cv in mid is just

well

feels meh

[elder crane]

What USN ships are independently OP enough for PvP?
Jun is one but she's OP in a way rhat doesn't benefit that much from factional buffs

[sharp wing]

Besides USS already got Sandie kai

[shy hazel]

uss still has the best solo cvs

[sharp wing]

and solo vgs

[shy hazel]

sd is technically still the best backline tank

tho shit dmg

[modern tree]

@safe meteor if you mean white pr shells, then they do not stack. none of the item passives stack in this game

[safe meteor]

alright

[shy hazel]

dont know about that georgia ho

feels meh tbh

[safe meteor]

so does the Pvp change with the new core data gear?

[shy hazel]

white shell dont help much

[steep fog]

I still dont run shell in pvp

[elder crane]

818 for basically only Akaga

[safe meteor]

Akagi eh

[elder crane]

And Shell has niche uses

[steep fog]

prefer sg + eva gear

[safe meteor]

Kaga prob wants the homing torps?

[modern tree]

you can use 818 on Hiryuu to slow the VG and possibly blow them out with Amagi if you are running Aurora or smthn

[sharp wing]

kaga ryuusei + akagi 818

[safe meteor]

her torp is better

[steep fog]

818 on hiryuu = no dmg though

[elder crane]

I tried that and the timings aren't great (Hiryuu)

[steep fog]

[shy hazel]

now that i think about it

[steep fog]

I still ryuusei

[shy hazel]

if uss had factional buff then hms would have nothing good

tbh

[safe meteor]

do you equip reppu on Akagi then?

[shy hazel]

i guess thats why they dont give faction buff to uss

[sharp wing]

Well, uss have some

[safe meteor]

Akagi needs to launch first?

[sharp wing]

jsut not OP

818 launch 1st

[steep fog]

also hiryuu airstrike doesnt sync with anything

[modern tree]

I mean, the 818 on Hiryuu is basically a chance only on the first strike and if it doesnt work you just lose damage

[elder crane]

818 Akagi ryuu Kaga

[steep fog]

so slow is wasted