pvp

[shy hazel]

kill three then retreat

[sharp wing]

I mean farm + points

[shy hazel]

tot so

jp fren says that

[sharp wing]

what they say

about droprate diff

[shy hazel]

i rmber someone here saying boss drops same rate as elites

[sharp wing]

yeah, apparently boss worth it

[shy hazel]

this event proved otherwise

it wasnt the same and never was

[sharp wing]

well, sirens also can drop 2

nah, sirens never had same droprate

[shy hazel]

this event bp drop rate is harder than normal events

must be unique equipment

[sharp wing]

looking at other ppl

some ppl are [pretty lucky

I'm at 1

[shy hazel]

nirmally ill have one or two copies by now

only this and vdir is exception

[sharp wing]

i dun even have oil for that

nor time or motivation

:lazy:

[shy hazel]

my aim is 3

[coral wren]

including free one from the event shop?

[cursive canopy]

Best torps for pvp?

[coral wren]

quads magnetic

[modern tree]

rainbow mag quints, then gold mag quads, then gold mag quints

[cursive canopy]

Now what if I don’t have gold mag cause they don’t exist in my tech box?

[modern tree]

then you wait for one of the 2 events you can farm them in

[cursive canopy]

Purple mag quad vs 533 and 610?

[modern tree]

I'd probably do gold 533 because they are better pve torps

Well, better general use pve torps

[cursive canopy]

Just talking pvp though

[modern tree]

If you do not have good gear to max for pvp then it is not worth maxing it for pvp

Its not worth maxing purple SG radars

its not worth maxing purple FCRs

Its not worth maxing purple mag torps

Max things that are useful

[cursive canopy]

Well Gold mag don’t like dropping from chest for me. But I’m doing fine in pvp just wanted to see if I can do better

Torps plate are easy to get for me anyway

[ionic magnet]

i actually prefer purple quad mags over gold 533/610

non mag golds only hit 1 torp most of the time and thats if you get lucky

[sharp wing]

533 gold actually pretty good for auto

[modern tree]

thats like 3k gold into a dump as soon as you get one from the box

[ionic magnet]

which can take months so thats up to him really

[sharp wing]

after event i got 0 from box

[ionic magnet]

3k gold is just like half a day passive regen

[wicked rivet]

I have a bunch of purples maxed too cause i only have the shit I got from the event

Torp plates are common af, gold regens, max whatever youre gonna actually use if its decent

Eventually you'll have a bunch of shit maxed, cause pvp isnt the only thing you use gear for

That said, still don't max purple SG radars cause there are many better things that you could use gen plates on

[modern tree]

which is why I recommend using 533 torps instead of maxing trash purple quad mags

cuz you'd never use them in pve

the damage on them does not exist

you lose so much stats, torp reload base damage

[wicked rivet]

Of course

But you run out of those eventually too

[ionic magnet]

i mean stats and base dmg are good but will they hit

[modern tree]

fine I will do math

[wicked rivet]

Math

I mean yea it sucks

But when youre farming pr xp it doesnt rlly matter

Using them in pvp tho? Yikes have fun using the torps to try and scratch your way into the hull cause the explosions wont do shit

[ionic magnet]

it does about 150 less dmg

[modern tree]

You are not factoring in 20 lost torp stat and lower wepon coeficency because of lower rarity

[ionic magnet]

no i tested it ingame

[modern tree]

I'd not be surprised if hitting 1 gold 533 was about as good if not better than hitting 2 purple mags

[ionic magnet]

700 down to 530

vs a bulge VG

i wont even try to test hit rates of 533/610

thats the part that really sucks

[sharp wing]

actually 533 w/ 5 torps per 60 spread sometimes work even better than 4 homing torps w/ 50 spread, that get guided sideways and 2/3 just don't hit anything

vg bouncing around just rams into 533

[ionic magnet]

how often does that happen tho

[sharp wing]

as often, as homing go into open see

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

damage, stat and reload lose on purp homing not worth the gamble

[finite valve]

tbh unless you are aiming for top 10 end season

you can use non mag torp

[ionic magnet]

those 533s have zero chance (or close to) at hitting backliners i swear

[finite valve]

not much diff since both will likely miss

quad mag is just for min max tbh

still miss alot

[sharp wing]

homing have even less chance at backliners

[ionic magnet]

what

[sharp wing]

cause they home on vg and then just turn into regular torps

[ionic magnet]

ehhh thats not what happens most of the time in my experience

[sharp wing]

and many of them get guided under useless angles

[ionic magnet]

i used 533/610 on juneau for a while and they just usually went past VG and go in between backliners

mags atleast can curve into backliners after getting past VGs

[finite valve]

most of the time if your VG reach their is always a win for you

unless somehow they still have full HP when your meet them

[cursive canopy]

I haven’t gotten a single gold mag from tech box ever.

[waxen crater]

First kms I’ve encountered in pvp...

[shy hazel]

losers

[waxen crater]

Ikr

[shy hazel]

i dont use magtorp on jun

jun doesnt even do dmg

[vague token]

lol

[finite valve]

i dont use magtorp on jun cus i don't have enough spare quad mag torp around for her

fixed it for you

[sharp wing]

well, i use rainbow on nanoda and gold quad mags on jun and other vg

But i never get a single fcking gold quad from box after event ended

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

was half way into farming my 3rd

i had big hopes for Bisko event

prime german engineering

[finite valve]

biscuit don't have mag tho?

[ionic magnet]

same havent gotten any more gold mag torps after DC

[sharp wing]

Bisco herself has no torps

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

[ionic magnet]

they prolly pushed some button and removed gold mags from pool

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

Well i got it from box but ONLY during event period lol

[finite valve]

either way with them announcing anniversary skin so soon i think anni going to be quite near

[sharp wing]

maybe they had rateup something

[finite valve]

maybe end of july instead of aug?

they might do early aug

[sharp wing]

servers started 16th Aug

[finite valve]

i know

[ionic magnet]

wait which anniv skin was announced

[sharp wing]

not like they gonna start 3 weeks earlier

[finite valve]

but still too soon for tease of skin

that's the reason

[sharp wing]

no anniv skin yet

[finite valve]

my line of thought is that they release all the new year + anni at the same time

[sharp wing]

nah

[ionic magnet]

ah the PRs?

[sharp wing]

they release rerun Iris skins + those new year

[finite valve]

no sirius L2D

why lives

[sharp wing]

probably this Thursday

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

siri L2D was with Siri added to perma

so not soon for us i guess

maybe with Siri rerun

[ionic magnet]

yea prolly only iris rerun plus PRs

[sharp wing]

Well, Anniv has PR skins

But not these ones

[finite valve]

tfw FW and WC rerun will be useless to old player

well at least i don't have to horde gold for event

lel

[ionic magnet]

yep those should be on anniv

no need to release them 2 weeks earlier lol

[sharp wing]

You cal VF-17 and HSFCR useless

[finite valve]

yes since i don't use cancer team

[sharp wing]

lol

[finite valve]

even with WS kai coming you still not going to use 2 HSFCR or VF 17 anyway

[sharp wing]

that's you only tho

most vets eagerly await second hsfcrs

[finite valve]

meta follower and still almost winning fight

papega

[sharp wing]

and it's not just about pvp

[finite valve]

good to have but i would say SG + shell are a close alternative

as is most pve content

just min maxing

[sharp wing]

you can write off 90% as close alternative

[finite valve]

well consider that pve are just whatever so yeh

for pvp you still want to use SG + rudder anyway

[sharp wing]

WC gear are useless yeah

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

for pvp i use rudder+hsfcr anyway + staag

[finite valve]

ty for free win when fs die in 1 air strike

[sharp wing]

it's about offense tho

[finite valve]

eh i thought that all agrees on pvp off as just free win either way?

[sharp wing]

oh really

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

Guess we all just discussing def fleet building here

akaga is free win in any case so who cares

[vague token]

if only i didnt have to put torps on sanrui

=/

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

should have farm harder when chess board was active

[sharp wing]

put dildo in sanrui

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

lots of 3 french gun in #trophy-room

how's the farm going?

[sharp wing]

tryhards

[finite valve]

more like #pvp not try harder compare to filthy non pvp casual

[sharp wing]

more like 90% players don't care about pvp, even they are not casuals

sorry 99%

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

less than 300 ppl in this club already tells a lot

[finite valve]

[stark raft]

Less than 10 are even active here

[sharp wing]

Sandy got 2-3 alive sandbaggers, rest top 10 is just whoever didn't sleep enough to not lose too much matches

[finite valve]

would be the dream if they aloow server transfer

just going to move to sandy or wash

[sharp wing]

oh gawd

[finite valve]

don't need to sand bag

just casual pvp

[stark raft]

Would be a dream if they did anything to pvp

[sharp wing]

[stark raft]

too busy making EN app for mahjong and EN arknights

[vague token]

lol

[stark raft]

[finite valve]

well at least arknights is decent enugh

[sharp wing]

Devs are different, wdym

[finite valve]

yeh yostar is just publisher

wonder if iam going to have any sanity / drive to play the game left after this event tbh

too brain dead

[sharp wing]

that's why i dun tryhard

will burn out and drop the game

[finite valve]

[stark raft]

how do you even tryhard AL

you're at the mercy of rng

[sharp wing]

well, you can have 18 hrs screentime a day

[finite valve]

not like we ever going to reach famine or kamita lvl of try hard anyway

pvp camper till last minute of reset each day

i am impress that none of them bite the dust already

[sharp wing]

[stark raft]

wat pts you guys at?

[sharp wing]

better compare after reset

[stark raft]

1537 5/10

[finite valve]

1532 9/10

[sharp wing]

OwO

[finite valve]

10/10 or what?

there's no 5/5 lel

welp need to step up your sand bag game lel

[stark raft]

I slept on a reset

and its washington

[finite valve]

oh wash

no worries then

[sharp wing]

i'm 1530 7/10

missed 2 tix

[finite valve]

[vague token]

1542 6/10

[finite valve]

lots of ppl who miss tix lel

[vague token]

no missed but my schedule hasnt been friendly

[sharp wing]

You know reset times for Eu actually suck

[vague token]

xD

[finite valve]

ahead by 2h?

i might say that 4AM reset might be better but that's just due to my sleep schedule anyway

[vague token]

o.O

[finite valve]

hey better than my 2 AM reset lel

[vague token]

is it really though

xD

[sharp wing]

2 am is fine somewhat, but 4 am is jsut nowhere

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

middle of sleep

[finite valve]

implying that i am not already asleep before 2 AM

same with me lel

[sharp wing]

And not like i like to wake up before last reset

[finite valve]

yeh daily reset i just do 5 tix and call it a day

[sharp wing]

yeah

it's 10 am for me

[finite valve]

shouldn't the reset be 4 AM 4 PM and 10 PM tho?

or are you not in EU?

[sharp wing]

10 pm 4 am 10 am

[finite valve]

[cerulean estuary]

i missed 2 attacks bcoz of buying a bottle of fish sauce

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

story of the century right there

[shy hazel]

[finite valve]

should have just eat your food w/o sauce

[shy hazel]

better than stealing a turnip

[cerulean estuary]

fish sauce and soy sauce are common here in our country

[stark raft]

turnip for 2 tickets?

[finite valve]

[cerulean estuary]

always come prepared in lunch and dinner

[sharp wing]

fish sauce

[finite valve]

missing 1 meal w/o sauce ain't going to kill you lel

what are you a casual?

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=fish+sauce

basically fermented fish sauce

[sharp wing]

fish sauce basically fish sause

[finite valve]

well sorry if iam not a fish sauce expert

[cerulean estuary]

fish sauce ( + chili or lime ) and filipino beef soup in vegetables one of the best combination

[shy hazel]

[cerulean estuary]

im lucky if i'll made it to top 10 this season , but i expect im 15 to 20th

gotta buy 2 dozens of sauce;'s as a reminder

[sharp wing]

[stark raft]

sandbag
fish sauce

[vague token]

o.O

[shy hazel]

so

what are your scores again

[hot creek]

1562 5/10

[vague token]

1552 5/10

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

1550

[vague token]

havent been able to sandbag properly cause work xD

bonuses were bad early

[shy hazel]

guess my sandbagging isnt on par this season

[finite valve]

1572

[sharp wing]

heh, if didn't lose 2 tix, i'd be ahead of phoenix

[shy hazel]

oh

[wicked rivet]

only at 1508 with now 10/10 but I slept through 5 and another 2

[ionic magnet]

1552 lost 2 charges

[shy hazel]

dont worry

im only at 1558

[finite valve]

shit ton of 2 tix lost i see lel

[vague token]

im sure ill lose some in a couple days

cause lol holiday

[shy hazel]

either i lost some charges or i didnt sandbag much

[vague token]

murica, where we launch colorful explosives into the air

;)

[shy hazel]

im fulltime in pso2 rn

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

lel

[ionic magnet]

got event

valid excuse

[sharp wing]

my pso2 days a long gone

[vague token]

gotta bring out the fireworks gun on the 4th jk

[ionic magnet]

[finite valve]

my 7 years of waiting for EN finally paid off

just going to wait till next year

[sharp wing]

inb4 canceled

[finite valve]

[shy hazel]

unless eu is released

not gonna na

ping will be the same anyways

[sharp wing]

it will be NA servers anyway

[finite valve]

wonder how much of a back lash they going to have when they do that lel

imagine the rage of all gamers who waited for 7 years for a release just to be kick in the nutz

[sharp wing]

pso2 needs company anyway, solo get's boring pretty fast

[vague token]

id rather play gw2 solo lol

[shy hazel]

they say

[finite valve]

same as any MMO lel

[shy hazel]

all episodes gon be released

[sharp wing]

not any

there many mmos with rich solo experience

[shy hazel]

but how would u enjoy doing eq

when u dunno the story

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

theyll probably time them ir wtv

falz elder in furst week

then loser in 2nd week

[sharp wing]

eh

not like ppl play it for story

[shy hazel]

alot of ppl do what

[finite valve]

fashion star online 2

[shy hazel]

cos pso2 has tons of reference to original psu

[finite valve]

same as most end game content

fashion

[sharp wing]

fashionframe

[shy hazel]

at least old psu players will want the story

[sharp wing]

the minority

[shy hazel]

majoritt

pso2 isnt a thing for non pso fans

[sharp wing]

most new ppl that will jump into new mmo will have no idea wtf is going on

[shy hazel]

who would play an 8 yr old game

[sharp wing]

Well, most korean mmos that come to west, are technically that old in asia

so

it's usual stuff

[vague token]

pvp club mmo lets do it

;)

[shy hazel]

u got one thing to expect in na

inflated prices

[sharp wing]

never paid in jp so idk

[stark raft]

pvp club mmo? there are already tons of sandbox mmos

[finite valve]

wonder why no western company try to make their own MMO with all of their live service shit they been selling these day

[stark raft]

[shy hazel]

when everyone trying to up ea other anf play the bad capitalist

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

[shy hazel]

ppl from sea said their server is like

500m for a damn common costume

[finite valve]

i just hope the loot box bill pass so i can see how much EA and activition going to fall

that's going to be the day

[sharp wing]

loot box is a bane of all modern mmos

[hot creek]

if government starts fucking with lootboxes, say goodbye to all your gacha games

[shy hazel]

pso2 will prolly close in na early

[sharp wing]

xD

[shy hazel]

most profits comes from scratch anyways

[vague token]

yeah but i get a sense of pride and accomplishment from AL

not Battlefront

;)))))))

[stark raft]

loot box?

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

al is a cheap game

[stark raft]

they call it surprise mechanics now

[shy hazel]

so your pride is cheap

[sharp wing]

surprise butt sex

[vague token]

i have nothing to prove, except that sara is the superior carrier jk

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

Lolicon

[shy hazel]

pedog

[vague token]

look ill swap to essex when she comes out

[sharp wing]

Sara is legal loli

[vague token]

gotta get those dots

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

what makes essex cute isnt her illustration

but the dorm chibi

👀

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

she works hard to impress senpai owari da

but instead of 2x damage

she does a flood over time

xD

absolute evasion should work on herself always though

and then shared to team with 4 eagle

[sharp wing]

I like her xbow tho

she has 90 luck btw

[vague token]

i am aware

only 88 hit rip

i dont understand why ark royal has so much hit for a carrier lol

102 vs enterprise 107 (top hit rates)

[sharp wing]

not like luck or hit matters for planes

[vague token]

o.o

im pretty sure they should

since they have a hit rate that can be adjusted by sirius

and independence has a self accuracy buff

xD

[odd schooner]

6 more days

Coming bacc was hard

[high drum]

Ark has high hit because she tagged Bismarck with a shitty biplane

[vague token]

lol

[leaden jay]

Is the Type 1 shell usable on any PvP ships

[vague token]

shell/radar is a bit glassy

xD

[leaden jay]

Is that why the PvP guide doesnt recommend using it?

[ionic magnet]

its useable on ships w/ crit rate skills like bismarck kgv jb

but yea its a tradeoff for eva/hit

[vague token]

and super kizuna ;)

if only kizuna collab got ANY stats at all

from 100 to 120

huh, biscuit crits for around 1700-1900 even on nagato

weird

(with 380mm)

[elder crane]

Type 1 for ships w/o special crit or accuracy considerations, is mainly used paired with SG radar for maximum offensive power
Otherwise it's really not worth it

wait a sec I keep forgetting that the crit skill doesn't affect barrage
gaaaah, this means I need to work on my calcs again

[vague token]

lol

if it worked on barrage shell would be busted

[elder crane]

doesn't affect overall analysis I think, iirc even without the skill SG/Shell on average does more damage than SG/SG (or comparing HFCR/SG vs HFCR/Shell)

also I've been trying 818 on Hiryuu and I'm.... so far not impressed

we'll see though as I watch more matches play out

[shell heron]

Oh, a dev 30 sanrui is up

[elder crane]

dev30 Sanrui but not a 120 team REEEEEE

[shell heron]

went for dev30 sanrui but left junie at 111

[elder crane]

Sanrui isn't even 120

I mean, seriously?

[shell heron]

bet it's not even 200 affinity yet either

[vague token]

how can you tell she's dev 30?

o.o

[shell heron]

6 star

[vague token]

oh

xD

[shell heron]

if anyone here has me on their list and is waiting for me to move. I moved

[shy hazel]

dumb kiro too focused on sara

[vague token]

my sanrui is 118 =(

no bully

[hot creek]

wasn't training mine cause I only just got her gun finally

now that I have it, she's a beast

[vague token]

still doesnt do enough damage without her barrage/efficiency

but she taaanky

[modern tree]

I am wondering if I should get Monarch to dev 30 or Nep to 25 with the event bps

[sharp obsidian]

So, has anyone found some nice success with this White Shell?

[elder crane]

I'm doing HFCR/Shell on Amagi
It works... fine I suppose? idk if there's all that much difference vs HFCR/SG

[modern tree]

I like Warspite with shell

[elder crane]

we'll see how I feel later I suppose

[sharp obsidian]

I've been using in my Bismarck Meme Fleet, it's pretty nice. I've been trying to see if it applies to secondary guns too but I can't seem to get a full grasp of it.

[half silo]

I think it kinda works with my nagato

[sharp wing]

Pretty obvious to me.

[half silo]

[sharp wing]

Doesn't apply to secondaries

Only MG Salvo

[coral wren]

Should i slap hpfcr on ws or leave it with monarch 🤔

[sharp wing]

it's for barrage boats for faster barrage mostly

[elder crane]

Why would you want it on WS over monarch

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

Just asking if that would be more profitable when monarch is at dev 28 only

[half silo]

only

[sharp wing]

barrage is barrage

Lately I fight more NamaEnties than Namaryuu lol

Some1 most hiryuus are rushers

[sharp obsidian]

@sharp wing I feel silly now

Thanks for that though hehe

[hot creek]

I would probably go for Monarch dev 30 before Nep 25 if I was unbiased

Honestly I don't find Neptune all that useful atm.

[modern tree]

I can't believe what I am seeing, but you make sense. It's not like she needs those stats to do well in pve for me. Pvp can wait till she's maxed.

[coral wren]

What seems to be the problem? Lack of damage?

[odd schooner]

Maybe the barrage

[hot creek]

She doesnt bring much to the table save for being thicc

and she doesnt even do very well at that when Aurora and Amagi barrage exists

[stoic skiff]

Yep nep is light armor

[coral wren]

Someone should update hms in tier list soon. Hood/monarch is probably < ws/monarch

[modern tree]

I will get to it as soon as I have some time to test

[coral wren]

Is's so fucking heavy dependent on gambling

And that's too, of course

[modern tree]

I think that if you had 2 gold fcrs it would be fine, but we don't

[coral wren]

You pray you proc both barrages, and then you pray the majority of shells hit as well

[modern tree]

The problem with Monarch Warspite is that it loses super hard to Namagi Enterprise because you can only shell one problem ship and Monarch can't actually touch Enterprise

It's really sad/funny

Only her first barrage hits, and then you just eat lucky E over and over

Warspite can shell Enterprise, but then you need to have Monarch flag, and it's weird

Which is why I want more time to test who you actually want to sink

And if the comp can power through slightly off meta choices, cuz Hiryuu is actually the least threatening for HMS atm

It would help if I wasn't crunching 12 hours at the time, but lol gamedev

[hot creek]

what magical HMS comp are you using where Hiryuu isn't a problem? cause for me. Hiryuu is always a problem.

guess I need to slot in Yukikaze

to eat less touchdown damage or something.

stupid meta botes

leaves no room for diversity

Always Junuea/Yukikaze/X

[modern tree]

QE Monarch Warspite, Sheff Juneau Ykkz. So far I snipe Amagi and even if Hiryuu is doesn't trigger until shes on last on board, she loses to Warspite

[hot creek]

funny how WS Monarch sniping was once considered overkill and wasteful

but against Amagi, nothing is overkill. Fuck that bitch, she need to die quick.

[coral wren]

She needs to be nerfed

[modern tree]

It still feels kinda bad to just full hate her, but you either do that or gamble on Monarch both getting barrages and hitting shells and that just doesn't work

[lunar veldt]

Smh just run pure hms comp if u really love hms

[shy hazel]

only ijn can,be pure in this game

[lunar veldt]

Hiryuu ain't a problem now, but once u face the kai version she can be a real pain in the ass if she is alive for long

Right now on jp/cn priority ship to sink is hiryuu kai

[hot creek]

Hiryuu is still much of a threat even without retro, what are you on.

she is still BiS third slot for namagi

[modern tree]

Pure HMS is for roleplayers. I like to have fun playing games.

[lunar veldt]

Meh I have fun using hms over a cheap comp

Cheese comp*

Kek

[odd schooner]

But you could go full ijn too

[lunar veldt]

Yeah ijn

Without a doubt

[odd schooner]

Man kms meta when

[lunar veldt]

Is the beat nation

[ionic magnet]

hms
fun
nice meme

[lunar veldt]

In terms of raw dmg

[coral wren]

The only faction who can afford running pure ijn comp without losing anything

[odd schooner]

People actually used pr rudder on junny?

[modern tree]

Dunno how 4/6 HMS becomes a cheese comp

[coral wren]

Maybe in near future hms will get something better than yuki and jesus, but i doubt that

[lunar veldt]

Juneau and ykkz = cheese

It's so brain dead

[ionic magnet]

lol im gonna steal that junie pic

[lime rivet]

Once I've leveled enough I'm just gonna run full KMS comps for shits and giggles

And like, to hell with meta

[odd schooner]

Gonna have that thicc fdg too

[lime rivet]

Has anyone on CN/JP even maxed FDG yet

[lunar veldt]

No

[lime rivet]

Figured

[odd schooner]

Fixed 6 months?

[lunar veldt]

maybe kek

[odd schooner]

[lime rivet]

Christ. Remind me to unlock her first to get that shit out of the way

[odd schooner]

Same timegate as invokers

[hot creek]

cheese is not even the right word. jun/yukikaze are straight oppressive T0 bullshit.

[lunar veldt]

some people already have dev 20+ fdg

So soon tm

[stoic skiff]

Are Azuma and FDG bp more rare than normal ones?

[lunar veldt]

Anyways it was cn who thought of using Juneau to counter nakaga during the nakaga meta

Pre amagi

@stoic skiff yes

Very rare

And it takes a lot of bps to max them

So good luck

[stoic skiff]

[lunar veldt]

Just spam cube research

And do your events

[hot creek]

lol please. anyone with half a brain and basic math skills would automatically realize how oppressive junuea's skill is.

oh but suddenly CN is big brain cause they used her first, right.

[lunar veldt]

?

What are u talking about she became popular because of the CN tier list

Literally the first time she was on that list

People were rushing her to 120

[shy hazel]

jun

was never out of any pvp list

[hot creek]

she doesn't just "counter" nakaga comps. She counters literally every comp you face that doesn't run junuea themselves.

[shy hazel]

then u got ykkz which like decreases cv dmg by 30%

even tho its only supposed to be 10%

[hot creek]

juneau will never not be part of the meta

unless you have some ship that stops all heals or something

[lunar veldt]

I guess u weren't there when the Meta was pure ijn during the early days of jp/cn

[coral wren]

Heal stop would be an interesting idea if they add something in w14 that could heal enemy tremendously

[lunar veldt]

She was never on the tier list until some dude experimented on her

Before that

It was pure ijn

Def and off

If u run anything else u are either dumb or u didn't care

[shy hazel]

remember

aurora is ijn

[lunar veldt]

Not everyone was lucky to get Aurora

Anyways most players run still run Juneau at the front

[shy hazel]

[lunar veldt]

Which is so bad

[shy hazel]

true ijn meta is aurora jintsu ayanami foxes

amagi

jp cn case, nagato first

aya gets replaced

then jintsu and aurora gets replace

then foxes got dismantled

[coral wren]

aurora ibuki jin

[shy hazel]

hiryuu kai comes in

[coral wren]

fuck that

[shy hazel]

then amagi comes in

poof

current meta exists

[lunar veldt]

Yeah ibuki/jint/aya was super common

Aurora in ijn was not

Cuz like I said

Not everyone is lucky

[hot creek]

for most annoying fox defense, you run jint/sendai/X

[shy hazel]

foxes without aurora might as well not use foxes

[hot creek]

even without aurora, your torp meme defense fleet can still do ridiculous damage against backlines with good RNG

[coral wren]

I feel like wasde was the best meta, since everything could work. But with amagi it's just shit, worst meta ever

[shy hazel]

what are u saying

wasdama was meta

amagi made wasd better

sidelined enty

[coral wren]

If amagi wasn;t around, there would be more choices

[shy hazel]

if amagi wasnt around we would be

[lunar veldt]

Oh I've seen some people with WASD/Georgia

[shy hazel]

in nagato foxes era

or possibly

nagato hiryu monarch era

[coral wren]

I think wasde were doing fine agaisnt foxes, just as hms

[shy hazel]

foxes yes

[hot creek]

wasdE era was great. because they didn't have too much of an edge. That was when Foxes/Hood, HMS and WASD still had good winrates against each other.

[shy hazel]

you might as well get reky by competent hiryu users

[coral wren]

Yep

[shy hazel]

i hate wasde era what

endless owarida

[coral wren]

But namagyu is just total garbage

[hot creek]

from HMS point of view you just snipe Enty EZ

but I guess if you ran wasdE yourself, the mirror was hell

[coral wren]

20% buff my man

[shy hazel]

now all others comps are sidelined

gotta accept your fates people

and go ijn

[coral wren]

Much fun, yeah

[lunar veldt]

Just run waifu

[hot creek]

I am still waiting on dev 30 Nep, Monarch and max Centaur before I realize im over this game and its blatant IJN bias and then quit.

[shy hazel]

apparently

hms with wskai never loses

someone in jp said

[lunar veldt]

On off yes

[shy hazel]

ofc its not pure hms

still got ykkz louis on front

[lunar veldt]

Ykkz/Juneau/Louis is viable at the front

Basically u're front is a stall

While u rely on your backline to carry you

[hot creek]

ws kai is just as lame as amagi, if not lamer. I probably won't be around by the time she comes so whatever.

full steam ahead

meanwhile, I went under my daily average today feelsbadman

[coral wren]

Hm, i thnik someone confirmed ws kai hms actually has a below 70% wr against azuma ijn

I had high hopes for uss when pr2 hit cn/jp, but now it seems if they don't get something amazing on fw rerun, it's over

[lunar veldt]

U can run wasd with Georgia

Other than that unless enterprise gets her kai

Uss will get shafted

But dev 30 azuma

good luck

And events give so little DR bps

Lesser than 15 DR bps btw

That's what 1 dev level

Plus their research is so rare

[stoic skiff]

What was her bug again? xD

[coral wren]

over 9000 evasion iirc

and acc

[lunar veldt]

Pr3 will probably have another good ijn ship

There were speculations jp/cn that the next UR will be a DD

So imagine a ijn UR DD

But heh they have been giving UR status to "underwhelming" ships

There's also a popular theory that manjuu is going to cover URs for all fraction

So uss and hms are done

Ijn, kms, French, uss are next

[coral wren]

was working as intended cough* cough* what do you mean ijn bias cough* cough*

[lunar veldt]

We dont have a UR dd, ca and cvl/cv

So make y'all can guess which fraction is gonna get UR

And what ship class

UR pinz

[coral wren]

Will be shit, mark my words

[jovial sedge]

U dont know

Prinz is cool she is part of my epic team defence

In making

[odd schooner]

You mean 20s win ?

[modern tree]

Eugen ur doesn't have to be good. Vgs in pvp are for stalling unless you are Azuma. She has fat HP, give her a skill that doesn't suck and some evasion and she's instantly op

[vague token]

eugen UR now a large cruiser with 10k hp ;)

[sharp wing]

IDK about hp, but apparently +2 bust and thighs

[high drum]

Is the french DD gun worth having 15 less AA on Juneau?

[wicked rivet]

y e s

[high drum]

I'd like Eugen UR to have a skill that reduces damage to the flagship, it would be fitting.

[wicked rivet]

15 aa is nothing

[high drum]

P E W

[wicked rivet]

unless its like, an IJN backline bote

[high drum]

I'm currently 9/15 on the second one

[vague token]

didnt the royal navy mix up eugen for biscuit? maybe she could absorb damage for flagship or taunt enemies

[sharp wing]

What did it cost?

50k?

not bad

[high drum]

I'm counting the shop gun as the first one

[sharp wing]

we don't count shop

shop is free stuff

I have pretty few time this week

[high drum]

I'm spamming the 3 sirens in D2 with a Roon grind fleet of Arizona, Karlsruhe, and Leipzig

[stark raft]

42k oil 17bp bout to start siren killing

[sharp wing]

not worth skipping boss tbh

lose event points and big drop rate

[shell heron]

There's other things in the shop I want to buy. So full runs for me

[stark raft]

Im done with shop

[sharp wing]

[shell heron]

no sleep

[sharp wing]

no life

life is for plebs

[shell heron]

both are for casuals

[sharp wing]

AL too

i had worse times

3 days 1 night sleep cycles

[high drum]

I quit runescape when I was 11 or 12. I could barely break level 50 melee attack after hours of just clicking on respawning enemies in the jungle

I proceeded to get far worse with Pokemon breeding and legendary resetting

[sharp wing]

Feels like crit multiplier doesn't work properly with double damage skill

i get 163% crit on Sodako w/ shell w/ double damage procs

instead of 175%

doing some ch 8 hardmode runs

pve for now

my wasd a bit underlvled to try pvp

Sodako hits 4.4k normal hits and 7.2k crits w/ shell adn double damage proc

instead of intended 7.7k crits

might need some more testing

maybe some bosses have crit damage reduction

OwO

Kiro shall approve

[vague token]

uss armored carrier when though. 3 medium armor makes me nervous

[sharp wing]

Hope for midway class i guess

Inb4 we get Shinano 1st

[vague token]

largest warship ever sunk by a sub

oh boi

[sharp wing]

largest CV of ww2

[vague token]

wasnt even finished xD

[sharp wing]

yeah, yamato sister basically

[vague token]

oh yamato class converted to carrier?

oh boi

[sharp wing]

yeap

that's why she BIGGEST carrier of time xD

[vague token]

thicc

[sharp wing]

extrathicc

tiehoe depressed in corner

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

we'll see a victorious retro before we get midway class probably

;)

[sharp wing]

kek

Or 1 of 2 other sisters

I actually think they will go with the trend and give it to Lusty

[vague token]

inb4 hood retro

[sharp wing]

ohboi

[vague token]

she heard we were talking smack about her low fp

[sharp wing]

She put on swimsuit

[vague token]

ark royal retro though would be nice sometime soon

soon is relative

[sharp wing]

No1 cares about low fp now

[vague token]

like in the year

[sharp wing]

like in 2

[vague token]

xD

[modern tree]

Hood is not getting a retro unless they change the artists. And not like Hood is a meme boat, which is actually what qualifies you to become UR

[vague token]

ah i see

[hot creek]

I don't think I'm going to be able to spend all the oil I've saved up for this event unless I get JB.

even if I do get JB to speed things up, I don't really wanna use her cause I wanna give MVPs to Saint Louis lol

probably gonna stop at three guns.

three total

obtained

[prisma vessel]

Hello, is double rainbow ayanami advisable or not? If not, what should I replace the other torp with?

[wheat lily]

I used JB + Sanrui, while JB was getting like 80% MVPs, Sanrui still managed to get 113 already

[red nexus]

From what i've heard her eva is pathetic

So slap a washing mashine on that gurl

or don't... your call

But hp is hard to come by

I wouldn't waste an aux slot for 200 hp

[prisma vessel]

[red nexus]

Except it's for boss fleet

[prisma vessel]

So... hp or eva?

[hot creek]

don't fucking ever put EVA aux on DD ever

thats retarded

roon is trolling you

[red nexus]

Maybe i'm just retarded?

[hot creek]

Perhaps.

[prisma vessel]

Hp it is

[red nexus]

Yep, i fucked up on numbers

My bad

Fuel filter gives 300 hp not 200

And aya has 1.8k hp not 2.4

[prisma vessel]

Thank you

[red nexus]

Repair bux gives 450+

Which is like what 20%?

Also... quad golden over quint rainbow?

[hot creek]

Suicide x2 oxy strat can be ok if you have limited options, also depends on comp and how much you wanna reset to get a good opening salvo.

Honestly I used to be completely against torp memes on offense but sometimes you just wanna shut down the stupid stall meta that is yukikaze/junuea. Just takes a couple of quick resets. You need the right comp for that though, I wouldn't just toss in one torp boat and call it a day.

[modern tree]

Suicide comp is only like Jintsuu Pearl Bulge, Aurora and Sendai. Aurora and Sendai can probably get away with double oxy each since you are going all in. It probably works along foxes

Since 2/3 boats buff foxes sides to making your torps better

[vague token]

8 hour sanrui research =D

[hot creek]

those 8 hour ones can be hit or miss honestly. They're better than the 5 hour ones though, those ones are even more of a hit or miss

[vague token]

i mean, the rest arent guaranteed sanrui

=/

ill get at least 1 ;)

[hot creek]

oh yeah definitely go for it if its a ship you concentrating on

but I think I might have better luck spamming multiple cube comms over 8 hours than with the whole 8 hour comm.

[vague token]

probably

but that's 24 cubes assuming i get 8 1 hour cube researches

that's a lotta cubes ;)

only missing mass and le triumphant

[hot creek]

worth if you have a decent cube stash and realize that cubes are given out at a large enough rate and that you'll be overflowing with cubes in the future anyways.

just look at some cn/jp cube stash, they have over 1k cubes and nothing to spend it on

[vague token]

xD

i have 1/4 of that and missing build ships so

eh

i do them for filler though when i dont like the others

cause it's pretty fast to refresh with that one

[charred sable]

My first Rudder

[vague token]

hurray!

[hot creek]

24 gold MLE prints to 134 purple

not counting store bought ones

anyone wanna post their ratios so far?

[vague token]

3 gold to 9 purple

[stark raft]

21 Gold 90 purp 43k oil 30k pts

[vague token]

[ionic magnet]

10 gold 64 purple

[hot creek]

wew

got some luckers in this chat

[vague token]

spare change for the poor plz

[shell heron]

17 gold 72 purple
26k in

[high drum]

12 gold 54 purple. I haven't kept track of oil, but I've spent over 5k just today so in the range of 15k?

[stark raft]

Event has oil tracker just shave off some for daily/hard mode

[odd schooner]

Wasd uses 4 138 right

[vague token]

my oil tracker is off because of gold commission lol

[odd schooner]

Sandy kai
Juneau
Washington
Sodak

Ok one more

[high drum]

I've spent 37k oil this event. seems monkaS

[odd schooner]

[lament lichen]

40k oil for 24 gold bps

[odd schooner]

59k for 30

[hot creek]

you guys farming boss?

or just sirens

[lament lichen]

Boss

Need those event points to clear the shop

[shy hazel]

@hot creek

are u doing boss yourself

[hot creek]

well, I wasnt

then i started doing it again

so

[shy hazel]

1~1 boss and mobs?

i havent farmed yet tbh

4 golds

zulul

i think i alrdy spent

20k oil

on 4 prints

pretty disappointing

[hot creek]

well, if the boss rate to siren rate really is 5-6 times more than siren like some say, its worth to do boss.

[shy hazel]

how do ppl even 1~1 boss

120 ships?

[hot creek]

bring air radars lol

im not doing 1-1 boss though

1:1 on boss also tends to drop S ranks

[shy hazel]

im grinding monrch on mob fleet

[buoyant parrot]

im doing 1:1 boss

[vague token]

what, 1-1 is easy

[shy hazel]

so my oil is kinda expensive

27oil per battle

[hot creek]

depends who you wanna train too.

[vague token]

i can do it with biscuit 116 and z23 100 on safe

xD

[buoyant parrot]

KGV Lv 105 : Saint Louis 119

[vague token]

if i had z46 it'd be easier to reach the aa stat without gimping myself with 4 radars

reee

[shy hazel]

that sounds more expensive thab mine

not motivated in this event anyways

jb came too late

i spent like 10k oil on coin comms

400 cubes

[vague token]

oooooof

[hot creek]

might skip JB if she eats too many cubes

Centaur is right around the corner

[vague token]

how many cubes have you spent

[hot creek]

probably like x6 daily +50

[vague token]

[ionic magnet]

kiro time to rush and go to sleep

[vague token]

i mean since you're asking so nicely

xD

lemme finish this d2

[ionic magnet]

jk im already out anyways lol

[vague token]

oh

i got jebaited

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

next season then ;)

[ionic magnet]

still need 24 BPs for dev30 monarch

prolly will take 1 week or so

[vague token]

ooh

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

just in time for the skin ;)

(jk you'll be late)

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

where muh sanrui skin at

or roon

(still only have 1 pr boat lol)

[ionic magnet]

monarch + ijns are where profits are
-yostar probably

[vague token]

fair

or they could give us qipao skins for sanrui/roon and make mega gems

[hot creek]

sarui oath skins 👌

there some pretty good fan arts

[ionic magnet]

you didnt even mention neptune

the blasphemy

[vague token]

look, i need a phoenix oath skin before neptune ok

but she does have a trident

[ionic magnet]

wat

[vague token]

so she gets a point

[hot creek]

Neptune not popular enough sadly

but Nep skin would get me to spend

they should have given her a skill that makes her do x5 ram damage or something

you know, cause she has that trident for stabby stabby purposes

[vague token]

i mean

they'd have to buff lots of characters with melee weapons though

lots of sword characters

[ionic magnet]

ngl neptune default art will be hard to beat

unless they give her swimsuit

[vague token]

gotta wait for sheffield's cloak and dagger skin to come back

[hot creek]

well, Neptunes the only one who goes HAM with her melee weapon

https://puu.sh/DO01p/11c57f625e.png