#pvp
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wait wait. even if the bp drop rate is lower for sirens, won't it still be worth at the chance though
I will be finishing map for points anyways, at least until I have enough to buy out important shop stuff
yeah it depends on the actual drop rates
id just test and see whats efficient
im going to wait for Slide Lord Just3c to release something
might as well farm 60k points as usual
reward track doesnt even have BPs
i see oil as the problem rather than time tbh
i can grind enuf
to use 10k oil per day
can play at work too
lol
gotta see how efficient it is to get those bps tho
vdir drop rate is shit
It's same
what you mean the same
vdir special planes drop rate was diff from all events
other event bps drop rate is far easier
if its the same as vdir then lol
I don't think potato devs coded 1 gold bp to drop less, than another
vdir is diff
cos its the very first event of the game
you can ask all other ppl here who tried to farm it
lol
I did too
the Quad 380 mm Gun do we know any ship specialized in using this?
massa?
Jean bart gun?
as i said, from my usual 60k grind i get ~4 gold bps average
i grinded all other events
So it's just rng
i got 2 copies per event
oh? but isn't Twin 380mm suited for mammie?
who what
Quadruple 380mm (Mle 1935) is Jean Bart gun
it shoots 2x2 tho, not like 356
It's good only on JB and niche on Doy
got it
Cuz super long volley time makes doys debuff last forever
vs moving targets second part of each salvo will miss
cause it targets same spot as 1st 2 shells
It still delays last shells by a lot. I did say its niche
so 5 ships in construction and 3 via point accumulated or 2 in map drops
i hope shop sells oil pack
nope

by the time event starts I only have 10k oil more or less...

meanwhile im at work while playing
<- working at home 
and rules are slacc
Same

no
i wont be able to play at work if im at jp

im going there this july tho
gon look for prospects too
im glad im working at home. As long as I meet my programming deadline and submit it there's nothing for them to fuss about me. 
lol
good luck

just keep applying
took me 10 years to get this job
POS programmer
far from game developer/QA(my dream) but hey as long its a work in front of a computer I can't complain
lol, QA can be hell...


yea same stella
the work there is sooo demanding loll
otherwise food makes me wanna stay :3

is the Iris event banner under a "Heavy Construction" or going to be Limited or has its own?
limited
fuck...
4th banner
It is in pool probably
welp that's all the information I need... 
oh if she's going to be on the banner under Iris that would be fantastic
since it's BB build, Aber should be there

You will know after yr 1st Sussex 
oh yeah I design pos cash register UI for 5 star hotels etc...
sad la
look for another company there's a lot but also a lot of bad ones lol just be vigilant and pray for RNGesus
you can do it. All work has stress but its a matter of how you handle it and yeah work environment is also a big factor
just go into computer programming 
it's a stress free environment but at least you get paid big bucks
and most companies give u benefits, free lunch, massages, game rooms w.e
dw, i had no experience or degree and now i'm in SQL coding

Hm, i wonder what's daxxam's job, he mentioned he works for a mobile game company
AND i'm consulting
oh sorry, i meant to say
it's not a stress free environment*
i'd like some of that stress free goodness

oh he does?! maaaan he might be one of those YOSTAR agents~ 
woopsies heh

neet is stress free 
bruh database queries
I'm telling you, working for a casual mobile game developers opens you many dark secrets
😂
anyway don't give up. Just always remember what will your waifu's eat if you don't work?
Good luck 
but at least i get free breakfast and lunch

and a sweet working office
i'll go wherever the money takes me 
sound scary

thus im undecided
to move back jp
or to retain work

work conditions are too favorable to me rn
where are you working now? 
oh ok
yea japan is pretty rough
if you work in europe they might have better working conditions
pr?
jp?
ya
the bullshit method
is to marry someone
not like i want to stay perma in jp
yea, it's just a pain in the ass to renew the work visa
if u got a good employer they handle your visa anyways
u only need to go once every 2-4 years in the immigration after
if u get bullshit employer every 6 or year
working for food
11 resets to beat namagi izumo. That was... infuriating
LMAOOO

wat
how does the embarrassment feel 
i actually lost to a hiryuu amagi ent comp twice today
also very embarrassing
just hms doing it's usual hms things to my sanity

I wonder if i end up throwing the tablet right out of window
Hm, indeed. Just in case if someone picks it up and start playing this kusoge. That potentially might save some random passerby
the usual
im apparently a metaslave
and it works out for me so wtv
namaryuu belnanodajun
my secret to success
is jun using
beaver tag

she dies always at the right time
not too early
sometimes she survives the last
but that means i win anyways
time to change your hms comp if its taking 11 resets to beat namagi izumo
thats not healthy

who 
most i did was 7 resets vs blue
Probably me

33 was the record vs some namagyuu before 120 cap
after cap i couldn't beat majority of maxed namagyuus
oh youre teh new player iirc
so u have no choice but to hms
just copy hooloo
or go the daxam way

i wonder hows the winrate of nakaga/amakaga now
No, i just don't wanna be a metaslave, so i'm being constantly assraped by every fucking fleet that have some decent synergy
your problem then

hooloo didnt follow meta
cos nagato didnt exist for him
if he got nagato sure metaslave too

Well, he doesn't have to face x2 70% either
ws kai
LOLLL
That's the price for being a hipster
dunno if nagato rerun will comes first or ws kai
oh... no wonder hooloo is so intensely invested into HMS
lul
because nagato isn't there
yea lol
wow, the hard times have grinded your HMS into a real threat lol
i fought hooloos fleet
level 120 oathed KGV
looks intimidating
is it 200 aff
has high hp on backline too
yea all 200 aff now
when i wiped frontline tho
atta boi 
But, you still use doy?
my whole backline was intact
Don't fall for that trap
im still not sold on QE but ill try anyways
my monarch is still dev 25
after i maxed others
Actually, maybe ws is leagues above hood at 120 cap
bbs gain more stats than bc at 110-120 iirc
so generally ws is better than hood
hood gains hp not dmg
yeah i was wondering why you aren't using monarch
well you still need a barrage bote to trigger hiryuu
in the end youll still rely on hood barrage
what dev level is your monarch?
mine is dev27
damn
but eh she feels weaker than hood rn tbh
yea its lit in pve
shell prolly be my first 120 pr
clears everything
I hope there will be a decent amount of exp at d2 to finish kgv
That's good enough
its not bad but its not good either
but well
everyone will aim for the gun anyways
2.5k is flagship
btw
Warspite does in fact feel better than Hood on 120
Yeah, that's totally fine
Cuz they deal comparable damage with comparable timing, but Warspite is 100%
The backline buff is not worth running a crippled boat
But when amagi is ded ws proceeds to shoot at nagato, right?
from what i understand
hood can trigger hiryuu in 2 barrages
might as well use her vs namaryu
and has what
10k hp to tank suicide planes
yea but hood barrage is very useful for hiryuu so its not really a matter of who deals more dmg
HMS discussion 
2 barrages if you don't trigger juneau and can land all shells
you want both ws plus hood anyways for more consistent procs on hiryuu
which counts as being lucky as fuck

cant double gold sg fix your problem
or something
iirc
ws has shitter hit rate than hood
esp if u fighting amagi
Ooh, you should try her then to see for yourself 
when u miss despadado wtv skill
I run Warspite mid and trigger Hiryuu with Monarch on 1-2 barrages. Hood can't reliably do that
Also Warspite is the most accurate boat in game wtf
tripple 406 gun?

If Warspite can't hit shit then no other boat will, #facts
#facts
Hood has luck and acc so low that she ends up missing most of the shells even if you get the barrage. That combined with her actual shit stats and md armour makes her nigh useless
She was serviceable at 110 but 120 shes unusable
BC stat growth is a joke
Shouldn't have bothered with leveling her..
The more I test Hood The more I end up hating her. HMS seems to win mostly by smashing the vg while triggering Hiryuu early
Hood can't even reliably trigger Hiryuu
Or smash the vg
She doesn't really do much for your gameplan
Monarch is doing just fine in Hoods place
and i remember you saying hood is really good at 120 will recommend kek
Even when missing like third of her gun damage

You never heard it from me
But i indeed noticed a double gambling with her, she might proc more often but those missed shells on hiryuu...
Oh shit
Context
when u cant trigger hiryuu yes pun intended
its not like monarch barrage doesnt miss either
and hood is actually tankier than many BBs even if she has med armor
9k hp and above avg AA
Monarch hitting 3 shells does more than Hood hitting 6 or so
The difference is actually this huge
And hp doesn't mean much if you take more gun damage.
1200 per shell for monarch and 600-800 for hood?
ive tried them both at 110 and didnt notice any difference tbh
Hoods eva is like 5 points higher than BB
Dunno
I need more free time to test more maybe
well ill replace her with monarch soon anyway but i juat dont get why hood is so hated
Because she has 350 fp
It's kinda hard to trigger hiryuu with her

I don't hate her, she's just power crept to hell. Her stats don't hold up for 120
Playing things that are known to be best is actually useless
There's nothing to be learned
At most you confirm that Namagi is indeed a mathematical error
thats like saying a bicycle is better than a motorcycle
it does the same stuff
it is just faster



Things that you know aren't the best can be surprisingly good. Things that you know are the best will continue being the best. Again, playing best teams has no purpose. I have lvl 120 Namagi, it doesn't matter for testing purposes.
You learn nothing by taking the easiest way out

i got a bike stolen in japan
japanese dont steal motorbikes
they steal bicycles
rip
sumire stopped typing again

why u always like this
type then stop type
feels like thriller
cliffhanger

he's busy sandbagging hey
well i remember a time , when someone stole 2 cucumbers on a market
he said ,
one to use and one to eat



Can you replace yuki in hms? Something like, jesus aurora nep?
Was wondering if qe buff with aur nep > yuki nep
But oh well... 10% heal and reduced dmg for backline is too strong
you'll also lose a lot more VG fights if you dont have yuki
and hms without VG against namaryuu is kinda bad
Really? i was convinced nep is like bel on steroids, so having additional 15% of stats will make her murder vgs
with the help of aur
I will drop ykkz for a while after I get nep to dev25
Does lvl play a big role?
very big
expect to be destroyed 10 levels gap
expect to be disadvantaged 5 levels gap
expect to win if u 10 levels advantage

well if your gears are good in the first place
any 120 fleet u meet should destroy you
Lol i dont plan to be top 100
I use enty 110 and ws 118 lmao
lmao indeed
thats how im doing my pvp
lazy to grind vg
so grind them by the virtue of pvp xp

my juneau will never reach
100 affection
this way
Im not serious about pvp yet im doing it just for purins
Lmao
Btw are the kanji in your name ganbaru?
yes
Yeee
Xd
ーーーーーー~!?
Was about to ask if you are a girl lmao
im big black skinned male
BBC
Em
on some opinion
go to daxam and hooloo for hms memes
for meta slaving like me
show me your ijn

kiroshimeme
ws with enty
feels like your stuck when the game started

frozen in time
everyone who did pvp early did
at some point
Nagato enty ws yuki port belfast lmao
i believe u got amagi
go to the usual 50% win rate fox team then
Junny is juneau?
ye
I got her
jun aurora nanoda
start building light

if u want cheaper aurora u can use the hms one
what is name again
sirius
or u can use the other alternative
err
the yellow jintsu
ya that
sendai
i always forget the names of non meta ships
I dont have her either
Ik i dont even think its that hard to get her
get your butt moving then

good time to get sendai too
people like neko
is preparing their louis
to get rekt

Well foxes wont last long anyway
devs suddenly stopped churning out retrofits
We have monarch we will get jean bart and wskai at some point
bunny kais should have been here alrdy
if they followed old pacing
oh i guess pr was a factor for that
I have 20k :(
I wont be able to build for french event lmao
Tho even if i had gold with my luck its impossible to get smth with 200 cubes
Em kinda off-topic: i already have glorious, is there any point grinding sp3?
I dont like the map
Oof why was i doing it
How ppl already got dev 27
Wut
Who
I need like another 20 to get to 25
Ik im slow so that means average players should be around 25
Some friend of mine, but like, in order to get it you prob should run cube researches since pr got to en
That's absolutely fucking insane
Does monarch get anything at dev25?
Mine is 20 atm
i only did cube comm once or twice and i have monarch at dev27
a ton of coin comms tho
its not impossible and some already got dev30 actually

last 20 bp for my monarch seems like it'll take 2 weeks 
event gives 30 so 
lol
Is grinding 10-4 a good idea? Cuz soon we will get french event and stuff
I started stockpiling oil and switch to 1200 comms 
gonna feel like reppuu farm all over again 
When do u plan to open them
if event gets the usual EN treatment, then we can prob run in cheap in d2 again
but now we got 120s
are the events gonna be nerfed again?

How hard will d2 be? I kinda succ


lul discord exploded
wheres the apologems 
Can someone add upcoming french gun to the recommended gear in pins?
in our pvp tierlist?
mmm
im still like
i dont want to recommend something
we havent personally
tested with
just add it like testing after 1-2 days
Do we still need the extra AA from the twin 127s? Its nice to have against Hiryuu and the ever present Akaga.
Yeah, to pvp pinned tier list
I had a weird thought:
PvP players set a high fp defend team, but that's only mildly annoying to higher players and outright stops newbies. Newbie players have LI+z23, and that gives crap xp which is annoying to higher players. Wouldn't it make more sense that everyone sets a mediocre defend team? It's not like it makes a real difference to your own standing
lul i rly hate those ppl who put 1:1 fleets cuz like u said u get crap xp from those
i wud rather lose to 3:3 maxed fleets or hav to reset than get insta wins dat giv peanuts
How is any of that generous?

you just gave ppl ideas
free exp is generous lel

no pain no gain
Eh. It makes little sense to stymie newbies from PvP
well idc man i just place 3:3 110 no gear fleet on defense on first week
yeh well tell that to 99% of the top 1k
Honestly, a matchmaking system would fix this (player lv +/- 5)
i just put random vanilla botes at start of season
you need to rework the point system then
The top 1k usually puts 1:1 or meme fleets. I usually see the 2-3k level have max FP
saying the top 10 at each season has meme fleet
Yeah. Point system would need an overhaul. But merit should be the same.
ok...
or they cud just reward xp based on the amount of ships u bring & their lvls, and disregard enemy lvl
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I always lose like 30 tries because work/life balance sucks
the point was that 1:1 fleet give crap exp instead of a max fleet
just put max lvl fleet and remove gear
But yes, merit. More merit.
and why should we (the top 1k) give free exp for you guy to enjoy?
And a 1:1 fleet would make PvP attractive to newbies and maybe retain player base better
the only reason I did pvp back then was that I got akaga early
as well as amagi
i ate two +9

Afaik, on avorra, they don't. Top 100 is 51% meme fleet.
cos i was killing maxed out fleets
and didnt check their ranks
properly

cos farming exp


is just around 5 to 6k exp anyway
that's like 2 or 3 12-4 fight
why bother so much lel

how is your amagi /nagato not insta 120 day 1 
that's my point
But also... W12 eats 
unless he got 6 ships below 120
was talking about stella lel
@steep fog I'm not a neet? 
point is they are so OP
u should have exp stacked on them
from doing pve

my vg level is miserable
cos I never bother

that's from mvp?
faked sick
Still fights good for a sick ship
he just said why he can't lel

oh
im grinding roon in 12-4
sanrui for me
foxes alone carry the first week of pvp
hfscr sg
not to mention we don't have much 120 fleet first week
give me FW rerun and I'll do that too 
hiryuu can stay at 110 lol idc
are u guys running oil tank + badge on hiryuu
even bcs dont get much
getting hiryuu to 120 would help because she won't take as much damage from those 120s.
but she's hiryuu
heh
experimenting on things

i think just enty + helena is enough tbh
helena in pvp 
with JP low AA enty just going to rekt shit
if barrage procs two times tho
if miracle hppens
u automtically win
kagbb can wipe amgi hiryu in two brrage
if kagabb and nagato barrage in the same time
high chnce amgi will sink
putting all your basket on a coin toss
50% 
while my amagi can failed 2 70% in a row
thats why i dont use kgbb
not going to happen
hiryuu is still scarier
lol
esp u go full ijn bckline
kgbb actually has nice aa
but still not enuf

just be a metaslave like us
why experiment and punish yourself when u can just copy and ez win


Or use hms and lose to a fucking izumo
I use to have BBKaga prior to Hiryuu meta, but right after my Hiryuu went 110 I've seen the full result
now that you mention it izumo might be a counter to WS snip

yeh right lel
I was one of the players here who put a lot of data in PvP for KagaBB
can you test out izumo vs WS in JP stella?
ask zack
see how much dps she takes
izumo 
oh zack is in JP
Do you have Izumo maxed in JP even?
pr1
did zack fully transferred to JP or is he still playing at EN?
we might have stumble on a WS counter boi
ohh
Eh, hasn't he left the server
good thing he's still giving info here
yeah, i don't see him
he should answer
Why would he leave tho 🤔
can try and find him in the ALEC
oh, i guess i know why 
some drama going on? 
Well, i think you was there at that time
what drama? we're too old for those kind of things... What's going on?

But yeah, hms discussions sometimes are destroying not only your wr, but bonds as well 

?
not sure but i kinda remember backreading someone arguing with him
hmmm weird 
zack has stayed here for a long time to not quit due to fights
if its HMS only people I know of is Daxam
he left cos this is en
That was easy

well he quit en
^
and yeah he stayed here for too long just to quit over petty argument
well the fact remain that he quit the server

so speculating won't get you no where
You can never tell what is going on someone's mind
just get it straight from the horse mouth
Im rooting to where he's happy, good luck to him. One day will catch up JP content that's certain
Press [X] to doubt
yea we'll get nowhere with just speculations
Not like Vysaga or Famine will ever give that spot up if they try
Well, etherst is right, after that dispute i don't think i saw him ever again
trying to beat no lifers for a rank that hardly matter / last long enough
is 2 AM for season reset for me
so i get top 1
rank that lasts 1 min


I'm just gonna chill back this season
u ppl wont understand 
oh wait that's what I said the last time 
singers practice a year just for 10 minutes of glory
or was that pianist

that kind of thing
in that few minutes all of u are below me

if they want an ego boost that much prop to them
i am za queen
me on the other hand eh not so much
but you can do that every other day 
😂

what are you? a casual?

so im always top 3~5
only 2? 
theres 5 from this server lol
should've scrolled down a bit more 
Vysaga
sumire rarely type
sumire
lol
at least 4
i don't see him much in here
are opposite
now we need those 6~10th spot

😂
recruit more tryhards in #al-general
fam chat here awhile ago
lel

😂
he said he overslept 3 rounds
tryhards in general 
always been
round start bonuses barely matter for me
my sandbagging will always take me to a certain score
consistency
good luck to you guys this season 


this season 7th consecutive top ten
My end score is usually around the 2595 +/- 3 range. No matter what my start is

something likr that too i guess
even when extended maint hit
i still landed mysteriously
on top 3
lol
lost 5 charges that time
I guess I could have still sandbagged to recover when that 12hr maint hit us
ya
but I decided not to. less stress
is just
consistency really
i think reaaon why fam vy always has way high scores is
they really wake up just for season resets

that i wont do
and cant
It's already 2AM when season resets. I'll stay up to see the top 10
not staying up more to get max points
sleep =/= sandbag 
I'll take +0s for the reset if I know I'm gonna be driving or out for a while
thats the point of a self-driving car right? so we can focus on sandbagging 
asking the plot of terminator to become a reality
♿
yea timezone is key
















