pvp

[sharp wing]

[trim horizon]

2 reset +0 in Sandy

even got an early -1

[sharp wing]

I often eat 9 on Sandy if i'm going to bed early

Cause i will sleep 1 reset at least

[trim horizon]

I had to go so I did my 5 attempts 2 hours before reset and ate that -1

[sharp wing]

Wish we had GMT based timers

[trim horizon]

[sharp wing]

Well, this version was Na only till Sandy release

[wicked rivet]

Having GMT timers would suck

I like the pst

[sharp wing]

For muricans ye, but now it sucks for EU ppl

[wicked rivet]

Tru

Im est

And its perfect

[sharp wing]

I mean, EU always gets ditched

FGO still has no EU publisher, lmao

[trim horizon]

1976 10/10 I think I won't get a +1 even this reset

[sharp wing]

They could just make a server for EU ppl w/ EU time

Tho it would be as dead, as Sandy, if not worse probably

[modern tree]

I aint moving from my server

[sharp wing]

No1 is

[coral wren]

Well, having 2 70% boats makes it look like it's not 70% for sure

[sharp wing]

[wicked rivet]

Sometimes amagi is just feeling a little tired

[odd schooner]

She's always tired

[sharp wing]

[wicked rivet]

Same

[wicked rivet]

tfw 8 attacks

and 3 mins till reset

[trim horizon]

[wicked rivet]

i almost fucking sudoku'd my season 3 days before reset

fuck

I might lose one

[trim horizon]

rank 8 w/ 5 tix on Sandy

[wicked rivet]

8 seconds

left

holy fucking shit

[sharp wing]

Lmao, also had 8/10

[wicked rivet]

[sharp wing]

finished 15 sec

before reset

[wicked rivet]

im gonna have a heart attack

brb

[sharp wing]

I managed +1 tho

[trim horizon]

+0 here

[sharp wing]

But i'm already down 2 tix anyway

[trim horizon]

I have Haloist

[shell heron]

cutting it close with 1m per match. A single reset would have costed you

[wicked rivet]

yes

it would have

[sharp wing]

GFladly i had 1 meme fleet

[wicked rivet]

which is why i used a reset when I got 2 namaryuu fleets

[sharp wing]

So done 3 in 3 mins

[wicked rivet]

and fought the 5 PR ship fleet that I got instead

[sharp wing]

now i got 3 meme fleets...

[wicked rivet]

i found bluerendar

ayy

[sharp wing]

(Amakaga counts as meme)

[wicked rivet]

[sharp wing]

[wicked rivet]

true

tbh

nakaga was the first fleet i fought

[shell heron]

but I liked Amakaga when it was still good

[wicked rivet]

it was v good at one point

[sharp wing]

Well, it's good on off

[shell heron]

I liked it after Nagato came out as well

[wicked rivet]

it still is okay

[sharp wing]

But nt def

[shell heron]

not like I can use Akaga in def anytime soon

[sharp wing]

OwO

[wicked rivet]

i farmed akaga for a month

[sharp wing]

Sandy full 120 + Nep

[wicked rivet]

leveled them to 100

[sharp wing]

LUL

[shell heron]

they don't see use outside of PvP before and the occasional boss fights

[wicked rivet]

got them to 100 affinity

[ionic magnet]

1 refresh left. +9s all over

[wicked rivet]

used them ONCE

[ionic magnet]

[wicked rivet]

and they

sucked

so badly

I went back to my triple BB fleet

[sharp wing]

I never used Akaga

[wicked rivet]

havent used em since

[shell heron]

hmmm, oathed Juneau. Thats some pvp dedication

or they really like Juneau

[sharp wing]

protecc Junie

[wicked rivet]

[sharp wing]

You seen nothing

I even canceled 1 pve fight, when i saw 3 mins left till reset, so pvp cost me whole 38 oil

[wicked rivet]

oof

at least it was only 38

[sharp wing]

I want REFUND

[wicked rivet]

no refuns

[sharp wing]

That reminds me...

Marcus

[wicked rivet]

if

shibinchen could do one more exercise

that would be perfect

but no

[sharp wing]

even top 7 not enough for me to +1

[wicked rivet]

same if I used 3 more

[sharp wing]

and i'm at -2 tix

I imagine at full tix

I'd already eat -1

[sharp obsidian]

There's less and less folks actively doing PvP in Lexi. 😦

How is it like in other servers? I reckon Aurora's PvP scene is still active?

[sharp wing]

Lexi is second most active after aurora

So you can guess about others

[wicked rivet]

avrora is prtty slow

[sharp obsidian]

Yeah, with the bare minimum sandbagging and even missing out an attack or two can still guarantee a Top 10 finish these days in Lexi. I mean, it was never super competitive like Aurora but the number of folks to play with has noticeably decreased the past few weeks

[wicked rivet]

for avrora

I missed 2 and im doing fine

[sharp wing]

i can get gensui with dozen missed

If i push in right time

I stopped rushing gensui on friday 1st like few seasons now

Unless i lost many tickets and came still make it on friday 1st, lol

[midnight heron]

😮 someone found meh

[sharp wing]

Nanoda with 0.5% hp bounced around like 20 second surviving Kaga Airstrike and eventually sinking her

[elder crane]

iirc canceling PvE doesn't cost full oil
It only deducts entry cost of 1 oil per ship in fleet, not the rest of the cost which is deducted on completion

[vague token]

owo

[ionic magnet]

tfw only 1 person in your list can give bonus pts and that person is not moving at all

[vague token]

refresh! xD

[ionic magnet]

thats just more chance of getting zero bonus

[trim horizon]

Reeeeee

[midnight heron]

lul oops was gonna say whoever needs to rush can fite me nao

[trim horizon]

Wats ur score now ?

Can't check rn 👀

[leaden sequoia]

I dunno if anyone got this interesting bug

but essentially

when you do an attempt and the game crosses 0:00 PDT reload and vg shooting animations freeze

ship movement and backline secondary shots do not stop tho

can't reproduce rn for obvious reasons, but just a heads up for anyone who wants to test it in the future

oh wait wtf

I can reproduce it rn

okay, backread #bug-reports a little and it's not just pvp

whatever, restart did solve it

nice little thing to get right after you woke up

[midnight heron]

oops sry for late reply but my score isnt enuf for +1 either way :/

[trim horizon]

np np

im no veteran but, is it normal that I got -2s in 2 resets already ?

might be bad luck but it doesn't feel right

[midnight heron]

if u didnt fite anyone lower rank than u then u shudnt get -point 😮

[trim horizon]

I fought lower rank than mine because I used all my refresh for both of the -1

I used 4 tickets 1 hour before reset because I had to

[midnight heron]

then its just rng

[trim horizon]

feelsbad

[stark raft]

did you restart the game after refreshing?

[leaden sequoia]

yeah

it helped

[leaden sequoia]

@trim horizon consider yourself too good for not losing any single attempt while everyone else (that are in the top 100 rn, at least) lost at least some

[trim horizon]

I usually lose 1/3 tix every season

this is the first one that I did all of them

so far

if this is normal then im okay with it

[leaden sequoia]

I think it is

[midnight heron]

yea if u're hogging top score often before reset then its normal to get -pt when rushing

cuz again matchmaking is rng and theres fewer ppl to match u with dats above ur rank

[leaden sequoia]

especially on less competitive servers

[stark raft]

does ache sandbag

[leaden sequoia]

which is every server not named Avrora

hmm

I think no

I see him in top 100 regularly

[stark raft]

time to get easy +2

[leaden sequoia]

tho maybe mildly sandbags, who knows

stops after getting too close to top 1

in order to not eat -1

[stark raft]

ppl are getting walled by 120's it feels

silly washington server

[leaden sequoia]

pfft

just flex out and fite 120 fleets with 110

rip 30 minutes trying to beat 120 Namaryuu with 110 Namaryuu tho

[stark raft]

120 nanoda is the most annoying thing ever

[leaden sequoia]

[real notch]

alongside level 120 KGV

and 120 saint louis

[stark raft]

120 KGV is a tanky girl

gonna put my washing machine on her and put her in def fleet

[leaden sequoia]

huh, so she is viable PvP shipfu

I mean, yes, with her barrage covering a vertical line at a certain range + damage self-buff against Crimson Axis and Sirens playable and PvP-viable Siren when

[real notch]

yeah she seems quite viable from the times i've fought against her

[leaden sequoia]

but I thought she was overshadowed

[real notch]

but it's quite hard to compare against namagi

which is considered the god-level of synergy

[midnight heron]

her early burn can still troll ppl

[real notch]

uhh, what you can MAYBE do is

namagi + KGV

and run belfast + X in VG slot

i haven't been frequently here in #pvp lately but i'm sure people have talked about that at least once

[coral wren]

Not really, no

[real notch]

@ionic magnet do you actually use 356mm on KGV

really? i thought people would have definitely proposed that here

[coral wren]

Daxxam shilling is too strong

[real notch]

i've been pretty much afk from AL PVP and even i've been thinking about that

[stark raft]

I'd do amagi/monarch/KGV + Bel/whatever to piss people off

[real notch]

i think namagi + KGV might be worth to try

KGV : 20% + EVA + 10% (from amagi)

plus 10%+ dmg against what is inevitably going to be mostly IJN opponents

[coral wren]

Well, when you have 2 flagships with buffs/debuffs and barrage on top of it anything would fit as a third slot tbh

[real notch]

i'm talking like fucking

sodak level defense

[stark raft]

I'm not that keen on nagato in def fleets even with amagi

she just increases FP/rld/acc and coinflip big 7

I'd do Amagi/Monarch/KGV + Jun/Bel/Nep to be tanky

2 zombies and bel smoking off airstrikes

[real notch]

yeah neptune might be viable

she's been phased out in JP though

[stark raft]

yeah KGV doesn't count herself for buff so she needs 3 other hms

[real notch]

after the release of a couple big boy retros

[midnight heron]

no more nepu

[coral wren]

retros? Don't you mean pr2?

Iirc it's jesus/azuma and yuki

[real notch]

no, effects of PR2 is all conjecture atm lol

we haven't given JP/CN enough time to build, level and test PR2 ships against each other

[coral wren]

Oh... i see

[real notch]

what has already been tested and proven is that hiryuu kai is broken

ws kai is broken

amagi is broken

[coral wren]

*sigh if only kgv could buff other hms like amagi..

[real notch]

kgv is hella strong already

[stark raft]

My hms already ready, just drop WS kai already

[real notch]

that 20% EVA boost is no joke

[midnight heron]

is it base eva or eva rate tho

or base + gear eva

[coral wren]

Really want to level her asap to see if she can replace hood or monarch, because depending on shit rng in this game is just some cruel fucking joke i live everyday

Itsays evasion, not an evasion rate

[midnight heron]

ok so does it include gear

[coral wren]

Unless they fucked up translations again

[stark raft]

just do the 70% squad

if you're feeling lucky you dont need to reset vs namahyuu

[leaden sequoia]

feeling lucky

no tnx

I'd rather take something that can work with the shittiest luck possible

[stark raft]

when all 3 barrage fire off though

feels so good

[leaden sequoia]

:ayananuke: basically

[coral wren]

then jesus sinks and it's back to 100%

[stark raft]

yeah but hood reload buff makes you shoot faster

it's a race to erase backline

[midnight heron]

its pretty annoying when enemy does it to u tho

[coral wren]

Should i get hyped for Richelieu and be let down later 🤔

[modern tree]

KGV requires 3 hms boats that aren't her so she automatically doesn't fit into Namagi cuz you give up entire vg and Amagis reload, sillies

[stark raft]

Amagi/QE/KGV + Jun/Bel/Nep then

[leaden sequoia]

I always thought of her as the best candidate in QE/Monarch setup with Sheff/Bel/Nep in vg

but not Namagi

though not Namagi for other reason

[coral wren]

Hm, do you think she will perform better than hood?

[leaden sequoia]

iirc KGV barrage is not aimed

so she would need flagship for her barrage to cover every enemy backline

[stark raft]

Hood is better on offence

[leaden sequoia]

which conflicts with Nogato

[coral wren]

I just don't really like to gamble two times in a row, and if kgv might pull out a good chunk of dmg with shelling i'd gladly try her

[modern tree]

Also, KGV is only really tanky with QE around because without QE, she actually gets only 5% more eva over just plain QE buff that applies to whole HMS

You can try QE, KGV, Monarch/Hood with Aurora front for maximum early shelling efficiency. It's probably good enough to win games

[real notch]

yea giving up ships like juneau or YKKZ is pretty bad but

shelling speed isn't THAT important

i'd rather have +30% EVA than a fast first shot

[modern tree]

Her eva is dependent in HMS ships, not fast shot

[coral wren]

Yeah, i guess i'll try it with hood, since lacking +1 main gun on monarch feels kinda bad

[modern tree]

It's not Amagi

[real notch]

yea i am talking about amagi

like she can fire slow, as long as i get the EVA from KGV

the problem is shitty HMS VG ships

mutha fucka

i tried to kill this spider that climbed onto my ceiling

[modern tree]

You don't even have 3 vgs that will work. Sheff is great but she's useless for Nep, you can't cut Nep. Belfast is w/e but there's no 3rd ship you would run and if you are running a 3 HMS front, might as well run QE instead of KGV because you lose only 5% eva on boat, but buff the entire vg

[real notch]

and it just dropped onto my hand and disappeared

yea that's true

[modern tree]

It just doesn't work in any logical way

[stark raft]

Amagi/QE/KGV + Jun/Bel/Nep then for maximum efficiency

KGV buffing herself + QE + Amagi eva buff

[real notch]

yea actually idk

from what i've seen

YKKZ is doing gods work in literally every PVP fight she's in

she's busted

[stark raft]

That's why I kinda love KGV

[real notch]

so you'd be hard pressed to lose out on YKKZ

[stark raft]

her 1st salvo is fast and has 12 chances to burn that nanoda

while also have high FP due to the buffs

[ionic magnet]

@real notch yea im using the quad gun on her its not bad tbh and that early shot can win games

[coral wren]

How good is her shelling dmg vs enemy backline?

[ionic magnet]

you mean dmg per shell? around 800-900

[real notch]

quads usually suck

[ionic magnet]

maybe around 1k if i use qe

[stark raft]

she sacrifices shelling dmg for more chances to burn

[ionic magnet]

i want to test diff combinations but my other hms are still 110

yea all i can say is that shes better than doy and hood for sure

[coral wren]

Damn, then i guess it's prob best to run qe kgv and monarch..

[lime rivet]

Me:

See HMS fleet
Ooh free kill
Sees player name
HooLooVoo
Yeah fuck it i'm not going to bother fighting that

[coral wren]

How is her barrage dmg ?

[lime rivet]

That early burn from KGV is goddamn nasty

[stark raft]

her barrage is merely alright

[coral wren]

I know, it's just a bonus. But i still wonder

Like, does it take at least 10% of amagi or nagato

[ionic magnet]

her barrage is sad like any other barrage not named nagato

[coral wren]

Ok, if she does a decent job and there is a minimum gamble that's fine by me

[ionic magnet]

it does atleast 1.5k-2k dmg per backline

[coral wren]

with qe, its something something +35% fp

[leaden sequoia]

her barrage is not sad if you consider its proc rate

everything good has a price

[coral wren]

Unless it's namagi, yeah

@ionic magnet is it possible for you to record some matches with her?

[ionic magnet]

sure when i get home in a bit

[coral wren]

Cool, thank you in advance

[shy hazel]

someone actually respects hoolooloos hms now

[real notch]

[shy hazel]

ive got respecc for no hms

[real notch]

actually with KGV now it's a lil better

hooloovoo has surprised me with KGV's resiliency

[shy hazel]

im still waiting for daxams anti kgv rant

[coral wren]

Is the key in it the first preload salvo?

[stark raft]

KGV just dummy thicc with sick burns

[real notch]

not preloaded*

that's a jean bart thing

[coral wren]

Ok, so it's not like an alternate of jean bart with steroids. Well, not preloaded, but 75% reduced reload time

[real notch]

yea the fire is a pretty big deal tho

too bad amagi is in every single team comp

[shy hazel]

if i dont see a hiryuu then i dont even need to look at the screen

[real notch]

true

though sometimes torp meme comps just cuck u

[coral wren]

Give qe a skill that steals 15% of stats from axis ships and you will see some interesting things, lol

[real notch]

i sometimes watch out for aya jintsuu YKKZ comps

[modern tree]

I have no rant against KGV. If you play her with Aurora, shes legit. If you don't, play Warspite. Doy never

[shy hazel]

[modern tree]

And while you can run KGV with QE for her to be a bit tankier than Hood, she still has worse barrage that doesn't buff your backline. All in all, she's okay I guess. I am winning with dev26 Monarch so I can't see why you wouldn't with KGV

[ionic magnet]

@coral wren https://vimeo.com/343621879

pardon my potato

first time trying to record

[coral wren]

Nah, it's all good 👍

[ionic magnet]

no maxed opponent but should be good enough

my matches look like that even against maxed namaryuus anyways

[coral wren]

Am i high or is enemy vang being killed by secondaries

[ionic magnet]

p much 50/50 and yea aurora should be better vs stall VGs

they do. all those purple numbers are from nepgun

[modern tree]

Nepgun flag with Aurora

[coral wren]

Second round nice salvo, insta deletes enemy vg

[ionic magnet]

yea lol i love it when that happens

[leaden sequoia]

nepgun recommended over belgun as secondary now?

huh

[ionic magnet]

[leaden sequoia]

I would've thought that vg fire is still too important to pass on

but I guess range compensates it

[coral wren]

That dmg tho... i wonder now if qe would work better than doy, especially with aurora

[modern tree]

Nepgun is easy bis for backliners

Until we get pr2 152mm dual purpose

Which is just power creep

[coral wren]

overall it looks way more reliable than hood+monarch

[ionic magnet]

i have no idea what to use on 3rd slot tbh. i cant replace kgv anymore after trying her and then theres monarch. doy/qe/ws/hood are too close to call

[modern tree]

Dunno what's your problem with Hood Monarch. Just roll the dice and win.

[ionic magnet]

BB shoots are rng too anyways

theres no escape

[modern tree]

I'd run Hood QE for KGV cuz her reload is buffed pretty high already and her gun needs it

[blazing scroll]

Gotta love the chickens in the background

[coral wren]

I know it's rng, but at least you don't need to pray to god for that 70% to happen twice

And twice again

and again

[ionic magnet]

yea shes next on my list to 120

qe

[stark raft]

non believers of rngesus

[modern tree]

Honestly, the thing that makes the rng matter less in this lineup is Aurora and nothing else

[stark raft]

17% 70% is 100% all the time

[modern tree]

Don't need bareages if you are just shelling the backline

[ionic magnet]

yea i need to use aurora more

still lv 114

so much to level

[coral wren]

If you meet rng jesus somewhere let me know, i will crucify him myself

[ionic magnet]

[stark raft]

he's with me every single pvp attempt

[coral wren]

Eh, i don't know if it's only aurora that makes it less rng. If 70% says fuck you, you get to shoot enemy backline with like 4 shells in total with dmg much lower of kgv, while with kgv you dopn't really need that barrage to happen. you just shell for the whole day

[stark raft]

You basically reset at 4:4x with the 70% meme

[ionic magnet]

i still want at least one 70% barrage for proccing hiryuu

[stark raft]

If hood doesn't proc, just reset

Amagi and monarch barrage is just a plus

[coral wren]

Sure, but i think 1 70% is enough

2 just drain your sanity

[stark raft]

mine is 3

[ionic magnet]

[stark raft]

I should try it with Aurora + torpmemes to speedrun PVP

[coral wren]

That doesn't apply to amagi

[stark raft]

they all like to gamble

Nep still needs like 60+ for dev 25

then I'll focus on PR equips

[real notch]

i'm pretty close to dev 25

for someone who's half retired

[ionic magnet]

guess whats wrong in this pic

[coral wren]

lvl 100 jesus?

[ionic magnet]

amagi flag

[coral wren]

Who i suspect will be instakilled

[real notch]

juneaus not oahted

[ionic magnet]

[real notch]

oh

shit

[coral wren]

oh

[wicked rivet]

That dude

[coral wren]

does SL not work in EN or soemthing? or perhaps it needs to be mlb to do well in pvp?

mine does like 2k dmg and dies

she is 27dev and 106

or am I using wrong items? I am using anti torp and PRrudder

she is freaking squishier than jintsu

[vagrant veldt]

what is the rest of your vanguard gear?

[coral wren]

Jebus 114 Boiler + Pearl 114YKK Boiler + Fire Extin.

[vagrant veldt]

likely just not enough speed

[ionic magnet]

well lv 106 is p low too

[coral wren]

wth... how do I even give more speed. remove pearl?

[vagrant veldt]

I would consider even 3 boiler engineboost being quite low

and PR steering gains on the vanguard is very bad

[ionic magnet]

i wont judge her if shes underlevelled

[coral wren]

I should swap it with my hiryuus beaver

I just been too lazy to do that

idk while I was using my jintsuu. she felt sturdier

-.-

[ionic magnet]

remember CAs benefit the most from levels

[coral wren]

ik. but she lvls slowly xd

[ionic magnet]

yea VG levelling is sad

[coral wren]

PVP exp is the only place she gets exp

too pricy to use in pve and dosnt perform as well as any other non PR

not having mlb is just such a big yikes

[ionic magnet]

that will take a while then 👀

[coral wren]

I am afraid so

[ionic magnet]

she'll be worth it in the end

just pay the extra oils

[coral wren]

was SL even that good in CN meta

I think Neptune was better wasnt she?

[ionic magnet]

SL is more common than nep iirc

[vagrant veldt]

used in USN backline to the recent IJN backline

[coral wren]

I just cant imagine that shit being useful

:C

[finite valve]

sanrui is better compare to nep in a sense that she can eva more + actually deal some dps (abit low compare to backline)

neptune is just a tank period

[vagrant veldt]

I see Neptune being more preferred since high AA stats

[coral wren]

Sigh... Azuma when?

[finite valve]

if you vs foxes maybe

vs non foxes is pretty useless

[coral wren]

namaryuu can take down foxes without vanguards

[vagrant veldt]

even torpedo focused CV Hiryuu hits pretty hard with divebombers

[coral wren]

litterally lvled up lvl 1 PR ships in pvp while vs Nakagas

[finite valve]

off winning on def and say a comp will always win with a +20%

you don't say?

unless def is winning vs off like 70%+

you winning on off don't say much about comp

[coral wren]

with Roon and SL at lvl 1 and only jesus-?

its basicly 4v6

[finite valve]

is that on def or off?

[coral wren]

off

[finite valve]

then that still don't say much

[coral wren]

I wouldnt even put that as def

I see

[finite valve]

most ppl here don't measure how strong a comp is when talking about off

due to the +20%

[coral wren]

ik

but I think its pretty cool that these 3 backline can solo a whole fleet

[finite valve]

[coral wren]

by sacraficing a little lamb

[finite valve]

just wait till WS kai

1 v 6 on off

lel

[coral wren]

xD

btw will Snady kai be any good in vanguard?

[vagrant veldt]

was used in anti Nakaga attacking fleets

[coral wren]

isn't wasda ded already on jp/cn? And with no nakaga it seems there is no point in her

[finite valve]

sandy is still an AA boat

so unless vs foxes eh not so much

[coral wren]

yikes

[vagrant veldt]

but the anti Nakaga fleet is just the current anti all fleet

[finite valve]

anti nakaga is wasd tho

cancer fleet is just good overall vs all comp

[vagrant veldt]

Hiryuu worked just as good if not better than Essex in that fleet

and you can just start replacing ships since there's a sakura CV

[finite valve]

essex is meant to vs foxes not against BB

or are you talking cancer with essex instead of hiryuu?

[vagrant veldt]

the point was Hiryuu was even better against foxes

than Essex in USN backline

[odd schooner]

The plane spam

[finite valve]

debatable since it is depend on when you proc hiryuu skill

[odd schooner]

Or the double airstrike?

[vagrant veldt]

proc Final counter while Hiryuu's other backlines are alive is very dangerous

[finite valve]

yep

proc right after they air strike however

[odd schooner]

Ye

[finite valve]

gg ez clap

[vagrant veldt]

also Nakaga is the least defensive backline in PVP

[finite valve]

using nakaga on def is like asking for a free lost

not like it matter when 99% of ppl in this channel lose more due to overslepping / forget to do tries than actually losing vs a comp

[vagrant veldt]

timezone restrictions

[ionic magnet]

alarm clock best defense

[finite valve]

implying that your sleep depress body going to wake up with 10 alarms

lel

[ionic magnet]

well not for me i always wake up earlier than my alarm lol

[finite valve]

good for you

[shy hazel]

ppl who rely on alarms

dont have self discipline

[elder crane]

What is "shelf dishiplene"?

[coral wren]

imagine missing pvp attemtps. what are yo uguys? ppl with lives? lul git gud

[ionic magnet]

most of my losses are from stray planes

[coral wren]

Most of my losses are 70% being 10%

[shy hazel]

i have no losses

[ionic magnet]

found trump

[midnight heron]

nice flex

[hidden wyvern]

https://i.imgur.com/vO8Yzlx.png

[merry edge]

Vanguard is belfast-aurora-sirius. Who's gonna die first?

[wicked rivet]

yuor mum flex

[finite valve]

@merry edge using nakaga?

[merry edge]

Yes

[finite valve]

belfap should tank for the other

either aurora or sirius off tank

i would say maybe aurora

depend on how fast their VG die

[merry edge]

Well simply put who's your pick for pearls tears?

[finite valve]

belfap

belfap should use buldge + tear

[merry edge]

Ah okay

[ionic magnet]

hmm isnt it better to lead with sirius

since shes a decent tank and her buffs stay even if she dies

[merry edge]

Wait they do?

[ionic magnet]

yes

[merry edge]

I offtank with her regardless lol
But thats an intriguing proposal

[ionic magnet]

so belfast can survive longer for more smokes possibly

[merry edge]

Yea Ill check that out

Torp bulges for everyone in pvp right?

[ionic magnet]

for your lead VG yea

for others optional

[finite valve]

i think sirius has better dps than belfap

dps is still dps in the end

and not like belfap tank is matter in anyway after VG die

[wicked rivet]

lead VG is probly the only one that should have a buldge so u can use better stuff on others

[coral wren]

*sigh another large monarch research right when i can do x10 of small ones while being at work..

[shy hazel]

i have all prs

dont ask about the dev level tho

what test

shield?

oh that one

mmm

so u wanna test it

now right now i guess heh

shes shit to use cos dev 15 only

better ask zack

me lazy to math

got all pr skills at lvl 10 tho

at least

well rounded armor feels shit in pve

[coral wren]

Roonded Armor

[finite valve]

@balmy torrent ping this guy for info Kawaii Five-O

and he said dk?

doubt a CA maniac like him don't got what you looking for

well the problem with roon is that are you going to finish fight after she reach max stack?

in most case answer going to be no

unless you talking about boss i doubt mob matter for those 2

i can try and do it if you can provide the math since well me stupid on math lel

[elder crane]

What is a "loss"

SKC?

Oh the PR CA gun

Well glhf getting Roon to reliably get to 70-90s, maybe?

At least vs the good teams

Oh PvE
Glhf finding a PvE battle that lasts long enough?
Bosses I suppose

Yeah the barrage almost fully makes up for the DpS advantage of the SKC

Since the mle fires faster

I've both but not Roon :P

You including animation/delay downtime on guns as well, I assume

Would be nice to see barrage on there too, maybe

Hmm, I seem to remember a larger DpS difference, not sure why (probably just misremembering)

You're including torp dmg in there, or just the reload time?

That might explain the difference

Since torps boost both DpS almost equally, slightly higher for mle

I assume not including ghost secondary?

And I assume you've already accounted for mgm+1 ofc

Yeah given the base dmg is low it's pretty on the ghost secondary

Vt+ac looks kinda weird

For mle

Roon gun is 0.5 vt and louis gun is not 0 vt so the two values don't seem to match up

What's ac mean, the gun animation cooldown for CA guns?

If so it should be same for mle and skc

Skc by my calc has 0.5vt+0.3ac

Yeah that's not right on there :P

I knew something seemed off, glad to help

[finite valve]

in whose favor the roon gun?

[elder crane]

Yep

[finite valve]

just put on your thinking hat and use roon lel

i think zack or stella has her at 25+ or something

ask them to test for you when they online

but tbh i think you better off asking ppl who play JP to test her in w13

w12 atm is just too piss ez to do some testing

AKA testing

[midnight heron]

got dis pic from reddit lul interesting situation

[empty sinew]

akashi throws a gem at enty

boom

loss

[finite valve]

64 vs 94

[empty sinew]

inb4 both the healers survive and match ends in timeout

[sharp wing]

Oh, Iris libre coming

Do they want to chain events or wtf, why so early announcement

[shy hazel]

2 weeks break is pretty long

devs consider mini events as "breaks"

and so do i

[sharp wing]

I don't

[odd schooner]

Here we go

French toast guns

Juneau at full power

[sharp wing]

No Bulli Junie

[odd schooner]

Not bulli

Buff

[coral wren]

It seems frogs coming on 27th is true

[shy hazel]

time to buy shop oil

[sharp wing]

fck it

[odd schooner]

@shy hazel ping me on 26th

[shy hazel]

rankings?

[odd schooner]

Oil

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

lets see

[stone grove]

Just ran into a PvP fleet with CV AI that's not even meming enough to put in more Kizunas for her skills to work

[sharp wing]

She needs battle to last over 1 min to make use of her extra aistrike, 1st of which happens at 30 sec

For pve she was around T1 i think on CN

[stone grove]

EN she's not even tiered

[modern tree]

Okay, so we are getting le mars

[stone grove]

And true, but she also needs Kizunas for her conditional double damage

[modern tree]

T1 for pve means basically unusable in PvP

[coral wren]

Gascoigne looks pretty ok actually

[midnight heron]

warspite kai announced for en /s /itsjustaprankbro

[sharp wing]

I mean, Junie is t10 in PVE

Talk about ranking and usability in PVP

Kizu boiler vs Boiler gices almost 100 score diff

[modern tree]

Juneau is not a boat, shes a skill

[sharp wing]

No Bully Junie

[finite valve]

french gun intensifies
hope you guys got enough oil

[modern tree]

I don't have shit and what I have is gonna end up fed to Glorious

[finite valve]

[coral wren]

jewcat will always appreciate your donations

[finite valve]

going to use all my oil till the last day of event

hope i have around 9+

[sharp wing]

Wow, ppl are still so optimistic

Usually 20k oil equals to around 4 event bps to me, lol

[finite valve]

[round viper]

Hi, what does everyone typically run for amagi in PvP: 410mm or 381mm advanced?

Worth running double auto loader then? I always figured gold SG + FCR was better (sacrificing 1 sec of reload)

Playing on EN btw

[sharp wing]

• fp boost for barrage

It's EN discord so

Check tierlist in pins it also has gear

[vague token]

autoloader will diminish extremely on amagi

better to have the hit rate

[sharp wing]

You need +acc gear and eva

I run either double SG or HSFCR+Rudder

[vague token]

id run rudder/hsfcr if i had an extra rudder xD

[sharp wing]

kek

[vague token]

1st rudder on saint louis ;)

[sharp wing]

I mean, Amagi w/ HSFCR without rudder bit squish

But that's all RNG after all

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

So i go for Nyaga hsfcr rudder

[vague token]

i have the 380mm ap on amagi atm

[round viper]

If only I had more gold SG. Only have 2 atm, one for Nagato and one for Amagi :c

[vague token]

as test

[sharp wing]

sad

Well, if you get gold rudder from PR soon

and if u have HS FCR

Assuming you use beaver on Hiryuu or something?

For me it's Beaver Hiryuu, then 2 bbs w/ Hsfcr+rudder and double SG for now

[vague token]

/laughs in RWG sara

[sharp wing]

Fetish

[vague token]

gotta get muh burns

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

someday essex

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

almost august bro

stay strong

[sharp wing]

Anniv nigh

only 2 months

We might get anniv things like a week before actual date tho or somehting

There still will be a gap for event between Iris and Anniv

[vague token]

yeah we get to murder our oil for gun bps

oh boi

[sharp wing]

[modern tree]

nah, you are. I am too old to buy into arteficial scarcity

[sharp wing]

Sandy gensui rush no happening this season again it seems

top 10 is 2130 range

Guess it will be 3rd season like this

[wicked rivet]

sandy
Enjoy your top spot

[sharp wing]

Inb4 Aurora pvp ded

[wicked rivet]

Tbh

Top 42 from me

And 6 left

With an hour to reset

[modern tree]

You guys are severly overestimating peoples wilingness to play into lvl 120 Namagis with their underleveled boats

all pvp is gonna be dead for weeks

[elder crane]

hmm, that's true, mine's almost 120-all and I plan on camping top spots :P

[midnight heron]

i play into 120 and lose

[elder crane]

force those +9s

[wicked rivet]

True

[finite valve]

not using lvl 70 0lb ship on def

this is why i don't use def fleet

[wicked rivet]

Im one of the 120 namagis tho

[elder crane]

oh frick I forgot my locale is set to Japan

[shell heron]

I may not have full 120, but it's enough to scare casuals

[elder crane]

erm, now I have a bunch of update options in Japanese

[wicked rivet]

I have 120/119/120 backline

[elder crane]

well rando clicking it is

[wicked rivet]

Heck leveling frontline tho

[elder crane]

119/120/119/119/118/117 for me

[wicked rivet]

Noice

My front is uh

[elder crane]

you can probably guess who's who

[wicked rivet]

113/115/113

[shell heron]

120/120/115/115/120/117 here

[finite valve]

got sirius and ykk to 120

[wicked rivet]

Nakaga?

[finite valve]

jesus forever stuck at 110

at least all my back are 120

[wicked rivet]

Leveling jesus to 120

[sharp wing]

My Junie is highest exp VG

[wicked rivet]

I got bel/yuki/ibuki tho

[sharp wing]

[wicked rivet]

So leveling to 120 wont be too bad

[elder crane]

mine's 117 at least, Juneau

[finite valve]

might do sanrui if i feel like it

[elder crane]

She was already 116 from the 200 affection grind thankfully

[trim horizon]

I used her on Sanrui grind

[wicked rivet]

Noice

[finite valve]

at least you use her for sanrui

[wicked rivet]

I got 4/6 at 200 already

[sharp wing]

I did sunrui grind way before 120 and din't bother using maxed ships

[finite valve]

i just use cleve monty and random

zzz

tfw when jesus kai 200 aff is too tanky so ppl make another un oathed jesus

going to LMFAO if that happen

[sharp wing]

Just use her as tank

[wicked rivet]

[sharp wing]

with no bulge

I already use her tank on off

[wicked rivet]

Someone was complaing about how

Evem as tank she woildnt die

A few days ago

[sharp wing]

That is my vcase

She even manages to survive as tank

[wicked rivet]

Lmfa9

[shell heron]

On offense I use her as tank so she does die

[wicked rivet]

At 115+ vg ships survive for so long

Except when they get nuked and somehow the only one that lives is buki

[finite valve]

tank jesus just die too fast for my taste

waste too much heal

[sharp wing]

For me it doesn't

but i run toolboxes

wtf they pushing Iris Libre ships so fast

[elder crane]

okay, is there someone who can read japanese here?

[sharp wing]

It's just Friday, gotta chill

[elder crane]

I run double engine Jun on mid slot with Sheff leading, and it seems to mostly work fine for me

[sharp wing]

that's a lot of -hp

[elder crane]

hence mid slot

[sharp wing]

As i say with toollbox + bulge as tank she lives very long

[elder crane]

I forgot I had my locale set to Japan when updating Nox and I'd like to know what the options mean

[sharp wing]

Can't you change lang?

[finite valve]

google change nox language lel

[elder crane]

I'd like to know where that is if it exists

[finite valve]

they even have pic

[elder crane]

nah just the updater thingy

[finite valve]

eh yeh it exist bro

[elder crane]

not actual Nox, that is in Eng

this though....

[sharp wing]

wait

[finite valve]

that's is update right?

[elder crane]

yep the installer

[finite valve]

just click the middle button

[sharp wing]

jsut download eng installer?

[elder crane]

I'd like to know what is checked on the bottom first

[finite valve]

the 2 option below is just install with previous data

[elder crane]

ok ty

[finite valve]

don't remember what the left one does but i think is just accept TOS

[elder crane]

everything and their mother comes with bundled shite nowadays

so I'm a bit paranoid :P

[sharp wing]

left button is accept license agreement

[finite valve]

well you can just change locale to NA then update

since the installer going to auto detect language

[elder crane]

yeah but then I have to restart and I'm laaaaaazy

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

I haven't run Nox in a while

BS works better on high spec PCs, Nox better for lower spec PCs i guess tho

[finite valve]

BS can't open multiple instance of a game tho

[sharp wing]

It can tho

[finite valve]

really?

[sharp wing]

That's what i mean

BS is good for high end PCs

higher performance, but for weaker PCs it's bad

I mean, i tried to run BS on amd x2 w/ 4 ram w/ gts 250 pc, it was only loading about 5 mins

[elder crane]

What do you mean by "higher perf" though?

[sharp wing]

Let's say, if yr PC can run games at max setting, BS will be yr thing for best performance

[finite valve]

no root mode tho

[sharp wing]

BS has option to turn root on and off

[finite valve]

where's that

i don't see it in option

[elder crane]

well might as well try BS again since Nox is being weird again

[finite valve]

don't see root option anywhere

[elder crane]

ah right I think it's my anti-Nox-spyware network filters, maybe I'll try with those down

[finite valve]

also no macro on BS is another cons for me

[sharp wing]

Forgot root is not vanilla option

[elder crane]

Are macros even useful for AL

[finite valve]

try and over night siren farm bro

[sharp wing]

eh

you will run out of dock space etc in like 2 hrs anyway

[finite valve]

that is 2h of bp farm that you going to miss either way

[sharp wing]

why

just as usual alt-tab farming

[modern tree]

macros are hard to set up for al because rng spawns and making failsafes for random purple drops is a pain in the ass, you'd need to oversee it either way for it to be effective

[finite valve]

eh sleeping is a thing bro

or you don'e sleep?

[sharp wing]

How you ven gonna set macro

[finite valve]

i said over night farming

i never said day farming

siren clearing mode in event don't move

[elder crane]

plus you don't want it to do silly stuff in edge cases

[finite valve]

which is why it is possible

[elder crane]

isn't it easier w/o clearing mode? since you can let sirens come to you

[sharp wing]

I won't have oil to leave overnight farm anyway

[elder crane]

just walk fleet left/right

[finite valve]

you can fix that edge case by simply moving your screen to the edge and center it before hand

since on d2 of french they spawn instantly

[elder crane]

no as in somehow it rando scraps your lv120 ship or something

[finite valve]

impossible

also lock option

or are you telling me you don't lock your 120 ship?

the confirm button is no where near the unlock button

[elder crane]

well that's true, lock
still don't trust it to not do something silly

[finite valve]

macro is dependent on where the click is

if the click is nowhere near the button

there is 0 way for it to happen

[sharp wing]

lock all bulins

and dupes

Besides. will this event even have clearing mode?

[modern tree]

putting in all the failsafes to farm barracudas was such a pain in the ass that I just did it manually because one purple ship drop fucked the macro up

[sharp wing]

It's a thing only for newer events i think

tryhard s

xD

[elder crane]

clearing mode afaik is now retroactively applied

[finite valve]

i am just saying macro is a possible thing to do for siren farm in d2

do it or not is up to you

since i manage to farm banana in biscuit

c3 is piss ez

with all the oil i have d2 is not going to be a problem

[sharp wing]

I won't have much oil anyway

regular 3 clears per day

[finite valve]

can you reposition any of the app in BS?

[sharp wing]

like?

other disk?

You can move instances around as you like

But not individual apps, unless you clone instance

[finite valve]

like that

[sharp wing]

and leave that app in other instance

ehh, why is that even a problem

[finite valve]

my problem

not your lel

[sharp wing]

You can change icons order

[finite valve]

how?

[sharp wing]

but they are grid sorted

click+hold and pull

[finite valve]

i can't click and hold lel

[sharp wing]

or wait

[finite valve]

bro are you using the premium version or something?

[sharp wing]

well, looks like you can't

only delete apps by icon

[finite valve]

using premium version and talk about option free user can't access

[coral wren]

macro isnt cheating?

[finite valve]

[sharp wing]

nah

they can't detect using macro even

[finite valve]

more like they don't care tbh

GFL ban some for using macro

[coral wren]

so that explains how those ppl getting 150k points during a event

[sharp wing]

I mean, mouse bots was an issue in many browser games

[finite valve]

is depend on the game devs tbh

[sharp wing]

But devs don't do shit

[finite valve]

is case by case

[coral wren]

damn I wish Ididnt play on a tablet but on a emulator

[finite valve]

GFL on the early day got some ban due to ppl using macro

[sharp wing]

lol

I mean, i use macros in warframe and it's allowed, unless it's something related to autoaim

[finite valve]

i always remember endless T4 tunnel farm

LMFAO

[coral wren]

macroing in Azur lane is litterally playing the game on auto

I mean battle is already auto

[finite valve]

suck that they nerf everything enjoyable in WF

zzz

[coral wren]

it should be bannable

:C

it ruins any point of those score rankings

[sharp wing]

that's why scores are bs

[finite valve]

imaging being the minority that care about ranking

lel

they can score 1 bill on ranking and i still wouldn't give a shit

unless the ranking give some sort of reward for being rank 1

[sharp wing]

I mean, even in mmos, like warframe, you can abuse macro and other mechanics to a degree, where score difference between regular players becomes almost half

And ranking there have rewards

[finite valve]

in WF?

[sharp wing]

yeah

[finite valve]

did they introduce something?

i quit right after loki prime

[sharp wing]

starting from melee spin macro lol

[finite valve]

so dk if they add anything

[sharp wing]

when was that, lol?

You quit way too long ago

[finite valve]

like forever ago lol

[sharp wing]

It's totally other game now

[finite valve]

yeh that's why i am asking

[sharp wing]

from visuals to mechanics

Did you even quit before damage 2.0?

that's like 4 years ago

[finite valve]

yeh i think i quit before dmg 2.0

[sharp wing]

Cause i played since back 6 years ago

You need to try it out, it's like another game now

[finite valve]

DE mentality of nerfing shit when the game is basically a grind fest kill it for me

zzz

[sharp wing]

So too casualized

Well, they actually BUFF things too much

games too ez nowadays

[finite valve]

[stark raft]

nerfing shit? time to get some riven mods

[sharp wing]

for 8k plat

[finite valve]

also the RNG part of all the new OP gun mod you get from doing "god know what" kill it for me

[sharp wing]

besides there game breaking mod even without rivens...

[stark raft]

well you can just take WF at your own pace

[sharp wing]

Condition overload

[stark raft]

late game is fashion frame anyway

and bobblehead collecting

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

the only fashion i ever bought is the alien armor thingy with a moving tail

don't remember the name

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

all other armor can't move = shit

[sharp wing]

alien?

[finite valve]

fish armor with a tail that move

[stark raft]

Infested syandana?

[finite valve]

yeh that one

[stark raft]

maybe that or hydros skin

Yeah thats the infested syandana

[sharp wing]

Well, i got a lot of things during all this time, but all i ever use are Misa primeand targis armor