pvp

[sharp wing]

before
assuming
anything

[vague token]

[zenith tundra]

the problem is that al is a casual game were u can just use waifu for most of the time even with not even optimal equip

[blazing scroll]

But I think the skill descriptions in FEH are pretty self explanatory

[vague token]

i mean that wont be true eventually given the state of ch13 lol

if we get 14, or 15, etc

[sharp wing]

95% of playerbase in AL don't give shit about that

[vague token]

people who cant keep up are gonna get blown out of the water

[zenith tundra]

that a barrage does more or less then another when u don't even know what equip is good is completely meaningless

[blazing scroll]

I think a large portion of the player base hasn't reached chapter 11 yet

[sharp wing]

I mean, i have ppl, who clear ch12 in 1st dayt, but they don't know, that prinz actually has 0 dps

[vague token]

i mean we get a decent chart of info on gear (minus coefficients and other hidden stats lol)

[blazing scroll]

[vague token]

it'd be good if they clarified gear too

[zenith tundra]

do u now? like how am i supposed to know that ap dd is trash by looking at the gun?

[vague token]

by showing it does 90%/70%/30%

[zenith tundra]

or that ap bb does like 0 dmg on light armor

[sharp wing]

Ppl don't even care about stats or weapon efficinecy, not talking about detailed skill descriptions lol. And they clear latest content np.

[vague token]

and then displaying armors on enemy ship

[coral wren]

@elder crane do you have assetstudio?

[vague token]

cause frankly

the ammo help screen

basically lies to you

[odd schooner]

@sharp wing we seriously need a stepup like GFL had

[vague token]

"ap does more to heavy"

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

only for cl and up xD

[sharp wing]

IDK never played GFL

micromanaged games not for me

[vague token]

actually no ap does less on heavy for cl guns compared to he

70% he, 75 he++

vs 60 ap, 70ap+

the game lies to us for two tiers of guns

[sharp wing]

Well, and as i gave example today, how 1 guy was calculating Tanikage debuff, lol. 17% chance x 5 torps = 85%

So actually more info sometimes is bad, lol

[zenith tundra]

lol

[odd schooner]

I'm seeing a lot of kms fleet on 4k area

[sharp wing]

I see a lot of Wasd and KMS everywhere on Sandy

[coral wren]

Free points, eh?

[vague token]

im pretty sure you dont add % chance together for multiple rolls

[odd schooner]

Oh wait this guy probably failed pulling biscuit

[sharp wing]

Yes

That's the point

[vague token]

oh ok

[odd schooner]

I fought 6 kms fleet today

[vague token]

xD

[ionic magnet]

zuikaku? wat

[sharp wing]

That's actually 60.6% if all 5 torps hit

[odd schooner]

I'm poking 110+ fleet for big exp

I screwed up days 1,2 and 3 so I'm down 4k

[vague token]

oof

[sharp wing]

8/10 ded list

[zenith tundra]

just wait for ws kai and people complaining how they cannot free win for xp because of meta comps

[sharp wing]

lol

[odd schooner]

Oh ye

[sharp wing]

I'm waiting for Taihoe to make THICC Ijn comp xD

[vague token]

i mean you get xp on loss in pvp

[odd schooner]

The alternative namagi blackline?

[zenith tundra]

vicky taihou lusty

[sharp wing]

[zenith tundra]

max memes

[vague token]

ARMORED carriers

but only 1 gets true armor

[odd schooner]

Vicky only lmao

Sad reload tho

[sharp wing]

Well, they all have Heavy armor

[vague token]

taihou reduces he damage and plane damage taken

actually

vicky is arcing shots only

[sharp wing]

Vicky BB shells damage

[vague token]

na it's arcing shots

azuma would be reduced

[sharp wing]

We have no azuma

[vague token]

at least according to skill description

shark gun too

then

;)

[zenith tundra]

taihou is he and aviation dmg

[vague token]

honestly that should have been default on all the armored carriers

xD

lusty would be the supporter tank

vicky the aggressive tank

and taihou the rng tank

[zenith tundra]

but that would make lusty actually good somehow

[vague token]

[zenith tundra]

why would that be a thing

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

I would never let you anywhere near balancing anything, lol

[odd schooner]

Centaur when

[vague token]

i mean, do you want the nerf bat

or do you want people brought up

[sharp wing]

lol, akaga is harder, than namahyuu

at 120

[vague token]

i do like the nerf bat, but id feel bad for all the casuals ;)

so id rather bring hyper niche or weaker boats up to par

and set role standards

[sharp wing]

You actually do opposite

[vague token]

i mean, support bruiser vs anti bb bruiser vs rng all rounder bruiser

is an interesting choice to make

instead of lol none of them

or maybe taihou if you're ijn and dont want hiryuu

[sharp wing]

Let's not

[vague token]

you could choose off of personal play style

[zenith tundra]

there is no balancing hence the ws kai and amagi existence

[vague token]

or even just pow vs kgv ;)

[red nexus]

There is no such a thing as personal play style in a game where you can't conteoll your units

[zenith tundra]

people complain about broken stuff or ships they like

[vague token]

i mean, there is, it's called the overall strategy

[sharp wing]

It's not that game...

[vague token]

i mean, sure, but there's also literally no point in complaining at all about balance then

[sharp wing]

It's auto tactics

[vague token]

because it's not that game lol

might as well get creative

only way it's fun

xD

[sharp wing]

Yeah, no.

Casuals just like to have their 1 top comp

And better it never change much

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

You can be creative on waifu field

But when their op top 1 team gets cucked each 3 months, they just drop

[vague token]

i guess im just used to moba casuals

[sharp wing]

pls no moba

[vague token]

different mindset

lol

[sharp wing]

that's godawful

[vague token]

i see yunoooooo

[modern tree]

The biggest problem is that leveling memes will take ages now so nobody is really incentivised to try things that aren't the best out of fear they'll be missing out otherwise. I will miss the times where I had like 40 ships usable in pvp just to dick around with. Now I will have to rely on information from others and there's not gonna be much of it cuz most people will just be confirming that Nagato and Amagi are indeed strong

[vague token]

we could always have pvp level scaling

;)

[buoyant parrot]

i will never stop working on my Purin to 120... Once I'm done with choukai Im going back to 7-2 to build up my Purin...

Purin is love Purin is Life

[modern tree]

I am full time HMS now. Aren't you glad you have to rely on me for hot HMS takes like QE is ridiculous? I thought so

[vague token]

[buoyant parrot]

my QE is not that far to 120

could definitely help

[modern tree]

Yeah, 1.2m exp is nothing

Just entire first stage of pr grind on one ship, np

[vague token]

no big deal

[modern tree]

I don't need help, it's not what it is about tbh. I just wish I had choices and could actually experiment. Bringing in new boats to the comp is a commitment of like couple of weeks grinding

What if Fortune at lvl 120 is actually good? I will never know

[vague token]

i mean it is still unfriendly to experimentation xD

[hot creek]

put her in dorm and wait two months ez

[vague token]

ez

[coral wren]

Grinding takes much much time

[modern tree]

Dorm is for subs

Cuz there is no actually good way to get exp on those

[hot creek]

someday, subs are gonna matter

and we'll all be sorry. (except for Daxam)

[coral wren]

putting 1 sub to focus backline with torps

If that happens they best start making golden bulge

[buoyant parrot]

I have all subs to Lv 100

still waiting for the best U boat

also still thinking if 120 is worth it for SSR Subs...

[modern tree]

SSR subs are the ones you actually want at 120 cuz they'll have the most stats for that sweet free 20% map damage. Everything else you'd do is for calling subs into battle

[sharp wing]

Inb4 ch14 2x sub fleets and 3x main fleets

[coral wren]

uss ships doing uss things

[sharp wing]

Juneau will do whatever, if you promise not to sink her

[sour oasis]

Is PvP just "reach 120" now, or is it "reach 120 with Amagi/Nagato/Hiryuu"? Because I'm seeing a lot of that backline.

[coral wren]

The latter

[coral wren]

I wish wichita/ibris fleet was a thing in pvp

[wicked rivet]

@vague token did u beat me?

[odd schooner]

The real question

[sharp obsidian]

Will Hiryuu ever disappear from the top tier PvP Offensive Fleet? I have a spare ring and am thinking of getting her to 200 affection if she's here to stay.

[wicked rivet]

no

she's here to stay

for a long time

[sharp obsidian]

Hmm....... Then a ring to her it is! Thanks Yuno

[wicked rivet]

enjoy

[zenith tundra]

hiryuu might become less meta once fdg is maxed. by that point u can use fdg to tank ws kai.

so she's gonna be meta in en for quite a long time

[wicked rivet]

true but we aint gonna have fdg for like 500 years

[coral wren]

Things might be much better if devs took the direct control over en server rather than handing it over to localizators

[wicked rivet]

yikes

[zenith tundra]

might be. en is quite behind and dunno when they plan on catching up with jp/cn

[modern tree]

EN is in pvp endgame. Dunno what y'all mean. Nagato Amagi Hiryuu is good enough to beat anything anytime. Sure you can make inclusions like Azuma, Warspite, FdG, or w/e, but the core is there and even if you play only the core, you will never ever struggle for as long as en exists.

Which is why pvp on en is going to die

[steep fog]

[modern tree]

Why even bother doing anything if you can just play Nagato Amagi with whatever and win

For the next 2 years roughly

[analog hare]

[ionic magnet]

a comp that can last for years? sounds perfect for casuals

and guess who is their target audience

[modern tree]

In couple of weeks people will get their Nagato Amagi leveled to 120 and you will see nothing else. If you thought that Nagato foxes for months on jp were bad, welcome to en where we are looking at absolutely nothing else ever

[wicked rivet]

mine are already level 120 and fleets get shredded while I afk

pvp is dead

[wicked rivet]

Nice

I spoke too soon

[elder crane]

A comp that forces people to whale during limited events for?
Even better!

(and eventually forces lots of grind for)

[coral wren]

Well, what if french rerun brings some meta changing boat

[wicked rivet]

it would be
https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-surprise-welcome-palpatine-gif-11805998

[vague token]

lol

[modern tree]

There's actually no way to change meta other than removing Amagi. : )

Warspite kai that can near instantly remove Amagi was not actually strong enough to change the meta. Let that sink in

[wicked rivet]

Could get a hiryuu alternative maybe

[modern tree]

Changing one ship in a meta comp is not really any change in my mind

[wicked rivet]

Or

Vanguard replacement

/substitute

[modern tree]

In the end you are still running the same comp with different flavour

Its just Nagato Amagi

Blue flavour or white flavour

[zenith tundra]

idk how ws kai doesnt change meta when the only reason to use nagato in pvp is for azuma

[wicked rivet]

And the ijn buff for the other 3 ijn ships you should be usinh

[modern tree]

You use Nagato because she buffs Amagi and counts for crippling strike

[zenith tundra]

i can assure u that ws is better then nagato with hiryuu and amagi

[modern tree]

She really isn't.

[wicked rivet]

X

[modern tree]

You miss one divine marksman shell, it's a reset. Amagi makes sure you have as high chance of missing as it is possible

[elder crane]

If QE buff is enough to run Nagato for sure is

[modern tree]

Sure, you can use Warspite to win

[zenith tundra]

when u have a ship that does 1/4 to 1/2 of the dmg of ws and u bring her for a stupid buff that doesnt matter since u would still lose dmg idk what ur talking about

[modern tree]

But it's not better

Not in any way

[zenith tundra]

nagato even with perma barrage still loses in dps to ws

[elder crane]

When you lose somthing like 10% hitrate on your IJNs it's kinda a big deal

[modern tree]

Again, Amagi is not overpowered. She's a legitimate mathematical error.

[elder crane]

And 10% from lost FP, and lost reload

[modern tree]

Someone just messed up

[zenith tundra]

if ur battle is 6vs5 instead of 6vs6 it makes way bigger deal

[elder crane]

10% hitrate is about 20% damage, 10% FP another 10%, 20% from avi damage on hiryuu, and everything now shoots after opponents

[modern tree]

And I am dropping this topic cuz Zack is in full contrarian mode again

[elder crane]

So you're losing half a ship on the buffs alone at least

[vague token]

[zenith tundra]

idk what u think namaryuu is but that comp is just as bad as it is in en. still terrible mirror and still forced to run amagi and hiryuu on sides. ws kai makes positioning to ur own discretion and u can have even amagi mid shooting down vg

[elder crane]

Idk what you're on about the mirror

[zenith tundra]

mirror is cancer for namaryuu

idk what u have been playing so far

[elder crane]

It was already 85+% winrate easily before PR guns, and the improved nepgun makes it even better

[zenith tundra]

ur fighting casuals fleet

not maxed bis with pr gear

[wicked rivet]

Everyone that runs namaryuu always complains about mirrors

[zenith tundra]

when u see nagato dealing every match 30k+ dmg even with her barrage tell me again that she is better then ws kai that focuses all dmg to 1 ship and sinks it with mg shoots

[wicked rivet]

Which is why im glad I do 3 BB instead of hiryuu

(Internally: aw shit here we go again)

[modern tree]

Idk what kind of argument is "comp is shit cuz u sometimes lose mirrors"

[vague token]

i never have nagato doing 30k

xD

unless she barrages like 3-4 times

[wicked rivet]

Nagato does 30k if she gets perfect procs

Which doesnt happen

Unless its your opponent

[zenith tundra]

i saw ws kai easily reaching 40k+ dmg and even against namaryuu she can deal 30k+ without any rng involved like a bad % barrage

[wicked rivet]

My nagato: hmm I think ill chuck a few shells and get 5k
The enemy nagato:

[modern tree]

Okay but what are you arguing at this point? Warspite can win and shes strong. Okay. How did that change a meta in any way? Oh you can use a comp that has 70% winrate instead of playing mirrors for 70% winrate. Sure seems like a worthwhile improvement of the strategy

[zenith tundra]

i dont think even remotely that ws has 70% win rate against namaryuu

[modern tree]

And any def fleet with Warspite will just eat shit

[zenith tundra]

tecnically speaking u can have amagi eat monarch any day

[wicked rivet]

How about we just discuss the best way of sandbagging cause im pretty sure everyone in here has a >90% winrate

[vague token]

/looks around for donald trump

[wicked rivet]

Lmfao

[zenith tundra]

and even with all the heal u get from juneau + pearl hiryuu dies eventually and if u dont use 1 cv aux she losses a lot of dmg

[modern tree]

And what does that change

[zenith tundra]

washing is not enough for her to survive

[modern tree]

You are just talking

[zenith tundra]

once hiryuu is dead all u have left is amagi that is already hard damaged by monarch

[wicked rivet]

Ngl hiryuu dies super fast

At 110 sometimes she survived for 45s or 1m

[zenith tundra]

my hiryuu died to a 14k hms backline team with washing machine

[modern tree]

You are still just talking

[wicked rivet]

But now even without my amagi proccing she dies before the 40s mark

[modern tree]

What is your point

[wicked rivet]

Maybe retro will fix that

[zenith tundra]

my point is that hms on defense is not hopeless as u make it be

[wicked rivet]

But for now im enjoying the ez wins

[modern tree]

Killing Hiryuu is absolutely inconsequential

She gets 3-4 airstrikes by the time you do. No boat lives forever

[zenith tundra]

killing hiryuu is easy af from what i saw. u just let shelling kill her after proccing her counter 15 sec in

[modern tree]

Okay but what does that acomplish

Did the comp win because of it? Why are you telling me this

[zenith tundra]

u said ws kai in defense is bad and im saying that she isnt

[modern tree]

????

[zenith tundra]

a good hms team will make namaryuu pray for nagato to barrage

[wicked rivet]

A good BB team will

Heck hms

[modern tree]

You can't even fucking lie about losing after Hiryuu sank to drive your point

You are just talking

[wicked rivet]

Everyone is

[zenith tundra]

it was a 14k hms

and i was using ws kai not namaryuu

[modern tree]

Okay but did you lose?

[wicked rivet]

losing in 2019

[modern tree]

I can't believe you just refuse to answer basic questions and contunously monologue hoping I will drop the topic

Don't try me

I won't

[zenith tundra]

i saw some good hms comps in top 100. one day ill have the chance to try those

[modern tree]

So you didn't lose

[zenith tundra]

doesnt matter since i wasnt using namaryuu and that comp was improperly set up to snipe only 1 ship with subpar gear

[modern tree]

So you were not making any point

Good anegdote I guess

I was thrilled to learn that Warspite did damage in a game and then lost

[zenith tundra]

its fun just keep on testing with sandy bad comps and tell us hms is better then namaryuu on en

[wicked rivet]

Wait

Daxam is SANDY??

[zenith tundra]

ofc

[wicked rivet]

This explains everything

[modern tree]

I won't because that was never my goal

[wicked rivet]

Come to avrora and try it

[modern tree]

Also thanks for making a personal attack to wrap this "argument" up

[wicked rivet]

Not rlly personal attack

More of server shade

As long as u have fun playin this then youre fine

[zenith tundra]

if ur server is bad and some people posted their equips to prove it i dont think it is a personal attack

[modern tree]

I dare you to find one quote of me saying anything beyond HMS is good

[wicked rivet]

Thats too much effort for literally nonpurpose

[modern tree]

Cuz I have never claimed it's better than Namagi in my entire life

My entire purpose is to determine wether it's playable and what is the best way to do it

What you believe is your thing

[zenith tundra]

well let just say that the way u seem to trash talk namaryuu implies that

[modern tree]

I dare you to find a quote of me trash talking namaryuu

[wicked rivet]

Heck namaryuu

[modern tree]

Cuz I an pretty sure I can just scroll up and quote you

It's called projecting

[wicked rivet]

wait

can I trash talk namaryuu?

cause ngl non retro hiryuu is kinda trash

dies so easily

[modern tree]

You can, I will not vindicate your opinion

[wicked rivet]

also holy shit uni's L2D skin is so good

goes to fight namaryuu right after saying that
inb4 I get destroyed

okay nvm hiryuu is basically dead already

AND she's dead

[elder crane]

you realize that I'm the "elitist" who doesn't even bother testing vs anything that isn't close to "optimal" by my standards
and you claim that "I'm facing trash teams"

[wicked rivet]

after 29 seconds

[zenith tundra]

welp sorry if a 14k comp at 120 full bb looks like trash

[wicked rivet]

that was the fasted namaryuu fight I've had that team was actual trash

[elder crane]

torp-vg namayuu I'm confident enough to not watch fighting

[wicked rivet]

the 120 hiryuu comps are way more fun to fight

[elder crane]

and haven't dropped a match from that

[wicked rivet]

give me challenge pls

yea torp meme namaryuu are ezpz

[zenith tundra]

idk any torp vg without ibuki and that doesnt use juneau at least to be any good

[elder crane]

give me a set of reasonable params (as in, I could actually find someone able to set it up) and I'll be happy to try to set up a test of the namayuu mirror matching your requirements

[wicked rivet]

lvl 120 sendai/jint/yuki would probly be decent

[elder crane]

nah you want aurora for it for sure

[wicked rivet]

but thats more of a akaga comp

cause sendai

[modern tree]

I am glad our conversation was so productive btw. I have learned that I play on Sandy and Warspite deals damage

[zenith tundra]

that vg wouldnt matter since u would lose backlines just to juneau heal

[wicked rivet]

those are both facts

[elder crane]

and the vg is super squishy so the stall side wins the VG fights

well, not super squishy

but squishy enough

[wicked rivet]

bloop

[elder crane]

but yeah, if you're so convinced the mirror is "cancer" give me enemy reqs that you'd be satisfied with
Cause I already have testing evidence from a while back that 85+% winrate mirrors should be the case

tbh back then I was convinced mirrors was "cancer" too and was trying to quantify it, turns out it's nowhere as bad as I thought after I investigated

[zenith tundra]

if ur ws doesnt deal dmg then maybe jp and en have different metas not the same as u said earlier

not like en has fdg either

or azuma

so pretty sure en meta is en meta not jp

and far from it as well

and saying that if u have 1 comp without even being full potential is having endgame meta

[modern tree]

look, for me, you can just stop digging this grave

[elder crane]

Well the diffs for the mirror matchup ignoring azuma (cause that wasn't a thing until very recently) are 110/120, shells, PR equips, and Hiryuu retro
the first not making much of a diff for mirror (if anything makes matches more consistent since higher HP-to-dmg ratio)
the second not making a big difference since shells are skipped for the mirror quite often
PR equips favors offense even more so that's that
Hiryuu ret might be a big change, idk

[modern tree]

you win okay?

stop

you won the moment you told everyone I play on Sandy thus my opinion doesnt matter

[elder crane]

and PR ships ofc but that and hiryuu ret affect both sides equally

[zenith tundra]

i said u play on a bad server

[modern tree]

you dont have to win this conversation too

oh god

what have I done

[zenith tundra]

i too won all mirror against casual comps but struggled against blue fleet

doesnt mean mirror is easy

it mean that unless optimized defense namaryuu is just a random comp after all for maxed ones

[elder crane]

that's what I'm trying to go against, I'm saying vs optimal it's still 85+%

for non-opt it's well over 90% easily

ofc I never include vs bad fleets when testing, that would defeat the whole purpose

cause then if you just face meme everything is 100%

[wicked rivet]

true

big brain plays

only fight weak fleets for 100% winrate

thats trump's method

I'd bet money on that theory tbh if his winrate is actually 100%

[zenith tundra]

u can just reset

if u care enough to do it from 0

[elder crane]

back when I was doing comp testing/fire damage observations the pretty-clear result was that vs the best comps with a pretty-optimal (I hope :P) strat you need to be down at least 2 barrages to have any significant risk of losing, with 3 barrages being probably significantly worse than 50% to lose

[zenith tundra]

and thats what he did

[elder crane]

but iirc it's well under 10% to be down 3 barrages

[zenith tundra]

found 1 good aurora comp out of like 30 namaryuu in top 100

[coral wren]

What are you using rn?

[zenith tundra]

using bad comp that cannot win due to missing a buffer it seems

sry for the sarcastic answer but trying to explain to people that never used ws kai that, she is miles better then nagato just because she 1 shoots 1 opponents, is very hard

[coral wren]

Oh

With amagi tho, i guess in terms of pve those debuff/buff numbers make sense, but devs just didn't take into consideration how would it affect pvp

[modern tree]

I disagree. Giving a barrage that she can push in 25% of the normal volley time 4 shells that deal almost twice as much damage as any other BB gun in the game

is a mathematical mistake

[coral wren]

Lets say, if you reduce her 1st buff numbers down to 3% and on her second take down evasion down to 5 and burn dmg to 10, would ppl be still using her in pve?

Ah, i guess yes due to second buff still

[modern tree]

her FP being higher than most BBs as a BC is a mathematical mistake

[zenith tundra]

thay comp is just renove a rng ship and put in a ship that does 80% dmg of 1 ship on the opposite side 100% of the time

[modern tree]

her entire existence is just "touch fluffy tail"

[wicked rivet]

amagi and dork have the same FP

and nagato too

wtf

[coral wren]

Wait, what the fuck

[wicked rivet]

theyre literally

[coral wren]

Why is her fp is indeed higher than most of bbs

[wicked rivet]

all at 445

[zenith tundra]

amagi has more fp then nagato with same gear

[coral wren]

Wait a second

[wicked rivet]

nagato at 439 but also only level 118

[modern tree]

I mean, you think I am exaggerating

[wicked rivet]

so assuming +3 per level

thats 445

interedesting

[coral wren]

Lmao, what the fuck

Duuuude

Why the fuck it's 421 at lvl 120

[modern tree]

but I am very serious when I say that calling Amagi "op" is sort of semantically wrong. Something that does not respect power curve cant really be "over" it

[wicked rivet]

unoathed?

[coral wren]

Ye

[wicked rivet]

421 makes sense

mine are 200 affi

so thats why 445

[coral wren]

Yeah, it's kinda fucked up

Should be near levels of hood

[modern tree]

Sort of the same with FDG. Hard to call her op if shes in class of her own that makes Amagi look merely okay

[zenith tundra]

ws kai also just a normal bb with 499 fp due to self buff

and acc that is in a different league as well as 230% dmg

on 1st barrage

499 fp for my ws kai not even 100 affection

let alone full oath

but people need to be worried about amagi not ws kai

[coral wren]

I guess it's just that ws kai has a soft counter when you face her alone, but with namagyuu it's more like you have the whole fleet synergized with amagi as powerhouse. But i dunno, we will see it on en in 1 year(lol) i hope

Eh, if only kgv could buff all hms around her with yellow skill

[stark raft]

KGV already a thicc tanky girl

[zenith tundra]

i can test against this with namaryuu

gonna be fun

[coral wren]

Pls do

20 matches if you have this much time

[wicked rivet]

I want that ibuki skin

[zenith tundra]

saint louis as vg because of aurora

in 3 hrs ill be home from work and dc my emu for full test

[coral wren]

How do you test on nox? Run the app, launch the match and then unplug the wi-fi in it's settings?

[modern tree]

yea

if you kill the wifi and come back to the game, the game is just paused

[zenith tundra]

i just dc my connection from router menu in browser

[modern tree]

you can do it on loading scren

[coral wren]

Sweet

[modern tree]

why kill your pcs internet to play a mobile game lol

if you reconnect wifi after the pvp game the data will load back in btw

so if you lost just kill the app

if you win and want to take the result, just connect wifi again

[coral wren]

Hm, how do i kill the app without closing nox?

[wicked rivet]

click the trash can

[coral wren]

Yeah, that worked, thank you! Just didn't have the trash can icon

[modern tree]

uh, on the recent tasks screen just swipe it off the scren

are you new to android?

[coral wren]

Yeah

[modern tree]

right, so off of recent tasks you can swipe any app off the screen which kills it

and since you are probably using recent tasks to bounce between app and the wifi settings, its pretty convenient

[coral wren]

Oh shi, that worked too. Nice, mich appreciated!

[zenith tundra]

a 1st attempt. not using juneau because opponent doesn't have her either

[vague token]

is that just monarch left?

xD

[zenith tundra]

welp hiryuu seems to be melting that vg

yeah

[vague token]

kk

[zenith tundra]

every time she final counters that vg just vanishes which is around after 1st airstrike...

[vague token]

right

[modern tree]

melting Hiryuu sure pays off

remember, Warspite deals damage

[zenith tundra]

ws kai barrage hiryuu to 20-30% hp after that monarch barrage that seems to miss to much since the hp barelly goes down due to yukikaze heal. and then u wait for ws shelling that finally procs final counter

im disappointed at monarch dmg

maybe not using hit aux

[modern tree]

Monarch will never hit consistent damage because Amagi exists and 0 luck

[zenith tundra]

108 evasion is a thing with amagi buff

[modern tree]

Its okay, Warspite deals damage

[vague token]

just gotta get her dat fate sim xD

[vague token]

jet fuel, give

[modern tree]

1.5% better chance to hit hell yeah

[zenith tundra]

hiryuu is the only counter to ws kai outside of feg

if 80% hp dmg is not enough dmg on defense idk what dmg is

[modern tree]

and thus Namagi Hiryuu will be forever a thing on EN

thanks for testing

[zenith tundra]

sg radars for days i guess.. missing stuff is so dumb

btw i love the point where ws doesnt deal dmg since hiryuu exist. i hope u wont use her since she is useless

[coral wren]

I think cn/jp could have prevented this, but it seems noone bothers with pvp there

Just to ask devs directly what the fuck were they smoking

[zenith tundra]

amagi and ws both shouldnt be in the game but then how u deal with fdg and azuma...

[vague token]

i love power creep

xD

[stark raft]

Need better incentives for pvp I guess

[vague token]

no take your merits and love them

hoard all of them

never spend

[zenith tundra]

just buy 2000 slots dock and fill them with purins

[vague token]

although ill point out that if new stuff was added to the merit store

it's more likely they'd add a new currency

so everyone starts from the same point

instead of people with 100k+ merits just having all of it

and casuals having none

[modern tree]

the game dev is done, the pvp wont change

[zenith tundra]

maybe but also they seemed occupied with ui. if they want to change anything to pvp should be about time rn

its not like they cannot change stuff anymore

[vague token]

i mean in the modern era of gaming

design never ends

xD

[modern tree]

its not about what they can do, its about game moving forward and focusing development on things that make profit

[vague token]

buy more skins

[modern tree]

pvp is done, it functions, using dev time on redesigning it if you could make more interesting event gimmicks or w/e always has to make a return in some way

[vague token]

sara 120

[zenith tundra]

the game could've been done 1 yr ago with w12. all they needed to change was ui

w13 was pretty much forced by people on jp/cn that had same content for almost 1 year. if people dont want a change in pvp we wont get it

[modern tree]

feel free to complain about the pvp in feedback channels

[vague token]

im pretty sure they have plenty of that there

XD

[zenith tundra]

problem is en has the smallest population

[coral wren]

i don't think they read en

[modern tree]

you can't assume other people will do it for you, if you think that change can be made with just voices of people, go be the voice

anything you say is just an excuse to not do it and sit on your pile of trash

[zenith tundra]

well it depends on jp/cn player mostly

[modern tree]

you either want change and do what you can to see it happen or you sit on #pvp and complain pvp is shit

[zenith tundra]

its not like i can speak jp and ask people of my server to complain about pvp

[modern tree]

it starts from going to feedback channels and submitting your thoughts there

you dont have to do more than that right the fuck now

[zenith tundra]

the whole point was that a change can be forced by the community. no reason to assume the development of the game is already done and we are gonna get are events from now on

[modern tree]

Okay, but go be the voice of community rn

[zenith tundra]

what community? i dont even play on en rn and dont speak jp to speak with people from my server. i can only speak for myself

[wicked rivet]

gd are yall still going

im impressed

[zenith tundra]

lol

seems like al pvp is set in stone till they close the servers unless i do something

[wicked rivet]

implying it'll ever change

idk about that one chief

[sharp wing]

Pvp and other base mechanics won't change much or at all after game went out of OBT most of the time

That's how dev process works

You can talk all you want here

[modern tree]

I mean, I work in dev. Don't have to tell me that, but apparently community can change things

so I want to see community making fucking effort to change things

[sharp wing]

Community of Al doesn't care enough

90% casuals, who doesn't care about yr shitty pvp or whatever, lol

[modern tree]

there are people in this chat that care and are full of great ideas they arent sharing with anyone outside of thich chat

devs are not mind readers

[zenith tundra]

most people asked for a shop reward change. if devs cant even do that they should be fired

[modern tree]

go submit your feedback

[sharp wing]

Again, you say that, but you know how dev process even works...

It's pointless talk

[modern tree]

"other people have already done it" is just an excuse to sit on your ass and do fuckall

there are feedback channels

go there

[zenith tundra]

personal attack ur not better then me i guess

lol

btw idc about pvp in the slightest just the whole idea that pvp is set in stone forever bothers me that is all

[vague token]

whaaaaat

we got a traitor jk

[zenith tundra]

lol why

i always said ur ideas are too much for a casual game

[sharp wing]

I mean, if u don't care about pvp in the slightest, why are you even here?

[zenith tundra]

thats a good question

[sharp wing]

That's hypocrites in nutshell

[zenith tundra]

do i look like i care?

[sharp wing]

If you complains, sounds like it

[zenith tundra]

about what did i complain now?

[modern tree]

man, I cant wait for this guy to run you in a circle, then tell you you were arguing for thing he was arguing for, project to try and weasel out, attack you then say he didnt ever care

[sharp wing]

I'm done

[zenith tundra]

people that pretend that en has endgame meta without any of the most powerful ships in the game?

[sharp wing]

Go play JP, don't bother EN

[zenith tundra]

i dont recall this being ur chat or en for what it matters

[sharp wing]

I don't recall saying that too

You just won't quit

[zenith tundra]

then why do i need to go play jp?

[sharp wing]

Idk, you traded yr acc

Why ask me

jp/cn whatever it is

[zenith tundra]

im asking why u saif that like i need to go somewhere else

[sharp wing]

Because you did that

[zenith tundra]

im playing al idk what ur talking about

[sharp wing]

You playing not EN AL

[zenith tundra]

wait is this an en only diacord server? it says official no english

[sharp wing]

lol...

[zenith tundra]

lol

[coral wren]

Ahh, as i thought, fire extinguisher alone doesn't do much for yuki, but with amagi it's a different story...

[sharp wing]

Amagi burn reduction only affects main fleet tho

Or you was just comparing Yukie w/ FE and Amagi w/ her skill?

I mean, i understood it, like he was implying Amagi buffed Yukie

[coral wren]

Yeah, was just comparing those two

[sharp wing]

Well, since fire damage is not hp % based, yeah

600 ticks on vg 600 ticks on main is big diff, lol

[zenith tundra]

amagi reduces fp so reduces fire dmg as well

[vague token]

got an 8 hour sanrui research =D

[sharp wing]

I had few yesterday and today, but.... Saving for 30k for ship dev...

And still few awakenings

My exp grinds are going faster, than coins hull dev...

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

And have to awaken 115 early on, so they get ex-pee in peeveepee

[zenith tundra]

dr researches are much worse. u do them the same as normal ones but the bps drop is so much lower. like if u ever get more then 2 bps at once ur lucky

doesnt help that it takes more bps too

[sharp wing]

And u get only 5 per event

[odd schooner]

I had 2 back to back 1pc bp direct research yesterday

[sharp wing]

5-10

[odd schooner]

[sharp wing]

I was lucky with overnight 8 or 12 hrs comm, all monarch and sanrui bps

and for free

[coral wren]

I might regret what i'm doing but i hope it's worth it. Doing small blue cube researches

[vague token]

im trying to build up to 300 cubes first xD

[stark raft]

3 cube is worth it

[sharp wing]

As we Expect all this events

I never gonna spend cubes on research

[stark raft]

6 is desperation and 10 not worth

24/25 firework gun cause of 10 cube researches

[zenith tundra]

if u have 70 cubes i dont think u can aford any cubes research like me

[coral wren]

i have 40

[round viper]

Will monarch fleets consistently be top 100 on EN before warspite kai comes out?

[vague token]

summon dax

[modern tree]

are you asking if you can reach top 100 with Monarch or if they will be in top 100

because about any fleet can be in top 100, defense is separate from offense

[round viper]

So, Nagato is seen consistently defending in nearly all top 100 fleets. We gonna see monarch in the same position?

[modern tree]

no way lol

[zenith tundra]

been testing this for a bit. pretty sure should just lose to amagi comp since no buff

[modern tree]

Nagato Amagi is what you gonna see mainly for months

[zenith tundra]

been murdering that amagi monarch ws kai comp quite badly

[coral wren]

If not for years...

[modern tree]

cuz people dont have time to level boats and if there is one comp they will level is nagato amagi +1 since its actually future proof

its immune to time

mathematical errors are never obsolete

[round viper]

Heh

[coral wren]

That's the worst thing in my opinion, having stagnant things. It's okay for that stuff to stay that way for a month or two, but it seems to be pretty dark in the end..

[round viper]

Is Warspite Kai not making an impact on CN/JP? I only play EN

[coral wren]

@zenith tundra what level is your grosse?

[zenith tundra]

still farming for her. only azuma was 60% of 2m xp out of all pr2 ships when i got the account

[modern tree]

while Warspite Kai is capable of winning against this comp, it is not nearly as good on defense and thus, just running Nagato Amagi cuz you already have them is gonna stay

only thing Warspite Kai is gonna do is remove casuals from pvp : )

cuz even if you have meme comp that can win against Namagi Hiryuu, it's probably not gonna win against random Warspites

so you will have to run one or the other

[zenith tundra]

also ws kai makes hms a top offense comp no matter how u look at it

[coral wren]

Is it possible for hms+ws kai to lose to namagyu

on offense

[zenith tundra]

on offense shouldnt unless u get bad barrage rng.

[modern tree]

yes, about 30%-40% of the time cuz you are still a barrage dependent comp vs flat evasion rate

[coral wren]

[modern tree]

its still just different flavour of namagi

swapping one ship is inconsequential unless it makes your winrate go to like 90%

which apparently fdg Azuma does

for EN? its gonna do nothing at all

except some people will get to do something else than namagi if they are bored of it

[vague token]

[zenith tundra]

pretty sure swapping nagato for ws kai is a better option then swapping hiryuu for ws kai

cv make stuff easier

3 bb comps are too much rng

[round viper]

Does PR St. Louis have any good place in vanguard defense? Or nah, Juneau/Belfast/Yukk is too good?

I feel like the PR HE gun just isn’t “good” enough to warrant running her

[modern tree]

Juneau Ykkz can be ran with whatever you want but PR ships are generally preferred

if you have Louis or Nep at dev 25 you should run them

[round viper]

I see I see. TY!

Still run the PR HE gun right?

[zenith tundra]

saint louis is pretty tanky against bb only comps like hms that focuses a lot of the dmg on backlines

[round viper]

Or ignore HE skill and use Nep gun?

Er the AP gun (Eugen upgrade)

Figured.

[sharp wing]

The only downside of mle is that it tends to miss a lot vs fast moving targets

[vague token]

it is ok since it charges up her giant sweeping barrages

[sharp wing]

does it actually count

as 3 shots

it's 1 salvo

[zenith tundra]

mogami gets buffed by nagato. when i tried her her dmg was nuts and the reload buff is also very good for the barrage

[sharp wing]

Well, if MG+1 counts towards vg barrage MG shots count, and mogami w/ buff should have close to 4 sec reload on Mle, + volley time... makes around 18 sec for 8 MG volleys (shots)

So legit

[zenith tundra]

found a namaryuu to test against. the pictures are my half assed equip and the video is full 5 consecutive battles. end result is 4-1
https://imgur.com/a/C3pU0zu
https://vimeo.com/343103539

[silver root]

this is the weirdest mixture of equipment and upgrades i've seen

u have a bunch of amazing PR equipment, ws Kai, dev30 nep etc

[zenith tundra]

i don't have plates for +10 since the guy that had the account before had a lot of oxy upgraded

[shy hazel]

looks p normal except spite cannon

406 really

[silver root]

but then u have pom poms and +6

[shy hazel]

👀

[silver root]

did he buy 6 oxy torps

[zenith tundra]

forgot to switch aa guns

does this answer it

[silver root]

lmao

yes

[stark raft]

+9 SG that silly casual pumped em on dildos

[zenith tundra]

even with half-ass equip i lost to rng fire from saint louis that killed my juneau early

[shell heron]

oh that's nice. I didn't check if Juneau can use DD guns

[shy hazel]

aint best jun gun is dd gun

👀

[stark raft]

is that jun gun pr2?

[zenith tundra]

iris mle

[stark raft]

ahhh the baguette

[odd schooner]

French toast gun

[shell heron]

I'm curious on how much better the twin 100mm performs on ykk now

[stark raft]

extra AA is nice

[zenith tundra]

he said 1.5 years but he must have been a casual pretty much

lvl 99 after that much

it does have ships and some good equip so it's not that bad

[stark raft]

92 in 7 months I might be a casual

still dont have akagi either

[leaden sequoia]

101 in 6.5 months and I consider myself casual

mostly because of half-assed equips tho

[stark raft]

idk when I'll graduate from 7-2

gold sink too strong for pr

[zenith tundra]

never really

[leaden sequoia]

missed FW, so no HPFCR + still 1 SG since forever (6-1 looks so bad compared to 7-2 and 8-4, especially for PR ships exp grind )

and only 2 out of 3 needed gold quad mags for Sheff/Jun/Nanoda

otherwise I'm good on equips

[stark raft]

No HPFCR as well and only 1 gold quad mag

[sharp wing]

I mean, HQ lvl isn't isn't showing anything. I know a guy, who was at 40k attaccs at sub 95 lv

[leaden sequoia]

sounds like someone still stuck in 3-4

[sharp wing]

He's farming waifu affinity a lot

[leaden sequoia]

ah, that as well

[sharp wing]

Sitting at phone 10hrs a day is not casual at my standards xD

Then there bunch of 95+ w/ not even 20k attacs

[leaden sequoia]

in my opinion, being not casual requires you to know what you're doing

[stark raft]

10-2 was my SG farm, no wonder i have a honolulu after farming 3 SG

[ionic magnet]

6-1 is actually more oil efficient than 7-2 for pr grind

[leaden sequoia]

if you're sitting 16h/day, but you're doing fuckall, you're still casual in my book

[ionic magnet]

while still having 2 ? nodes and t3 plates

[sharp wing]

depends what you use

[leaden sequoia]

hmm

[sharp wing]

that's implies using different setup

But i don't see it

[ionic magnet]

you can use 3 lb0 in 6-1

[sharp wing]

same as 7-2

[ionic magnet]

3 lb0?

[sharp wing]

u can 3 lb0 up to ch9

equips carry you

[ionic magnet]

now thats a lie

[sharp wing]

lol

[leaden sequoia]

I thought about 10-2 back when 110 was the cap as well, but that sounded like a time and oil pain in the ass, so I didn't even try

with lvl 120 I need to give it a chance

[sharp wing]

your life is a lie

[leaden sequoia]

sounds like I can roll over 10-2 for cheapo now

[sharp wing]

maybe

[ionic magnet]

show me a fleet that can clear ch9 with lb0

with a dummy backliner ofc

[sharp wing]

up to ch9

mahans + phoe could do ch9 potentially too

[ionic magnet]

thats not pr grind??

[sharp wing]

7-2 u can pr grind

U told to show 3 ships for ch9

[ionic magnet]

yes pls show me

7-2 with 3 lb0 while keeping mvp on VGs

[sharp wing]

which faction

[ionic magnet]

any

[sharp wing]

2 mahans will do then

[ionic magnet]

again pr grind

[sharp wing]

faction?

[ionic magnet]

maybe uss gunbotes can. just maybe. but point is, 6-1 will still be more oil efficient

it just takes more game time and forces you to "waste exp" on lb0s that you will never use again

[sharp wing]

you can use LB0s that you will actually use

[ionic magnet]

thats one way yea

[sharp wing]

I still have little bel at lb0 for nep farm

[stark raft]

Jun might actually get me my last 1m for sanrui this week

clear time is so ass though

[shy hazel]

the usual dead season

when u top 40 with 5 charges

[lament lichen]

[shy hazel]

im not even trying for bonuses anymore

just get one then move on

play pso2

[ionic magnet]

this season worse than usual

[shy hazel]

[ionic magnet]

maybe peeps got walled by 120 fleets

[lament lichen]

[shy hazel]

some people felt walled

[lament lichen]

what is this 1120 wall you speak of

i always see meme teams

[shy hazel]

so they didnt even bother doing pvp

[lament lichen]

besides famine's

[shy hazel]

even tho theres no real wall

[cerulean estuary]

got no bonus points this reset

[shy hazel]

[ionic magnet]

i met two full 120s but i just reset

i mean refresh

[cerulean estuary]

uvuvwevwevwe onyetenyevwe ugwemubwem ossas is dissapointed

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

demolished anyone i met

sumires full 120 fleet

[ionic magnet]

ill only fight those if they give bonus pts

save time hey

[shy hazel]

well some vg still 119

[cerulean estuary]

my bellyfast is 118 though

[shy hazel]

ur prolly the 4th person i met whos almist full 120

i havent touched w12

nor im i grinding anything

hooked up in other ganes rn

[cerulean estuary]

yeah me too , unicorny at akashi is still 105 for me

[shy hazel]

farming xp on dorm and pvp

[lament lichen]

rank 9 with 5 attacks still

[shy hazel]

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

ssg

can u get top 1 this season

cay almost got top 1 last season

[lament lichen]

dunno

[shy hazel]

until ultracucc famine appeared

[lament lichen]

im playing ff14 mostly

[shy hazel]

last ,15 seconds

[cerulean estuary]

im happy with top 10 , top 1 is a punch to the moon for me

[shy hazel]

scary

[ionic magnet]

top1 is reserved for famine

im fine with top10 also

[shy hazel]

i tot cay gonna get top 10

famine like what

cucced in last 15s?

lol

[cerulean estuary]

im thinking of changing commander name to match my pvp fleet meme;s name

[ionic magnet]

yea or last 10secs i think

lol

[shy hazel]

im p sure v few of us even saw him in ranking boards

[sharp wing]

[shell heron]

Last season? I thought the top 10 was set a minute before, then comes famine in the last 30s

[sharp wing]

The unseen war

It's happening, but barely any1 knows

The ranking stays for the hr after reset?

i never bothered/been around, lol

[abstract cypress]

hope yostar reduce tries per day and increase the merit gain

[ionic magnet]

it resets right after season ends

[sharp wing]

Cygames?

Wrong game dood

[abstract cypress]

oh shit lol'

[ionic magnet]

lol

[sharp wing]

lol

[abstract cypress]

kapa

im just awake

[sharp wing]

I mean, cygames doing gr8

The sheer amount of free stuff they give out at GBF

[abstract cypress]

but the grind

unreal

[sharp wing]

Well, not many ppl actually grind

[abstract cypress]

same as fgo

[sharp wing]

But ye, if you want to be serious

[abstract cypress]

and this game

[sharp wing]

It's more grindy, than korean mmos

But you can as well just casual it

[abstract cypress]

im losing too much on pvp

[sharp wing]

FGo is just a turn off due to no auto

it's plain dumb

[abstract cypress]

the gameplay kinda ok

but i hate the graphics

[sharp wing]

I don't have time to manual that much on everyday basis, lol

Damn sanrui projects trying to my credits again... But i shall not give in

[abstract cypress]

how much ur avg bps?

[sharp wing]

55

Tho i focused sanrui more, so idk actually

rest 4 are 55 avg

Ofc most bps have roon, and i won't work on her for a long time

[abstract cypress]

im like 30s

[sharp wing]

78 Roon bps and i'm not even planning on doing her soon

Such is life

[abstract cypress]

for max is 350 r8?

[sharp wing]

343

and 165 for fate

[shell heron]

I want sanrui bps, got 100 roon and monarch bps instead

[abstract cypress]

fate available?

[sharp wing]

fate after you max dev

[abstract cypress]

then its 508

[sharp wing]

yeah

[ionic magnet]

i got 90 izumo bps for some reason

rest are 60ish lol

[abstract cypress]

great

[sharp wing]

I'm unlocking izumo atm... gathering 30k for hull dev...

Since lvling Amagi and Naga anyway

So 2 birds 1 stone

[abstract cypress]

30 = 1 month , 500 = 17 month

noice

[ionic magnet]

well depends on events also

[sharp wing]

Well, PR is a thing to make you occupied

[ionic magnet]

they give decent amounts

[abstract cypress]

if u grind

[sharp wing]

Well, basic shop bps is ez

the extra from rewards are meh

not worth the effort

[vague token]

oops took a nap

[ionic magnet]

yea doing dailies can net you most of the bps

[vague token]

think i lost some more matches

lol

[sharp wing]

lmao

[abstract cypress]

most event points i got are from dailies

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

daily x3 clears help

[abstract cypress]

good thing its exist so i dont need to grind

[ionic magnet]

🇫

[sharp wing]

second normal event chapter w/ x3 daily bonus is very good

fast, cheap and gives lotta points

Then SP

you can clear useful stuff from shop np

[abstract cypress]

nah i just run straight hard

but sometimes i didnt reach d3

cuz fokken time

[sharp wing]

eh

I mean, w/ x3 daily bonus, B1 gives same amount as D3, and b2-b3 give much more

And most ppl can do those

aside from very new players

[abstract cypress]

but the furniture

need to clear d3

[sharp wing]

Medal

[abstract cypress]

also have a higher xp

[sharp wing]

Well, get it on rerun

[abstract cypress]

ah yea medal

[sharp wing]

medals exist only in 1 exemplar. So if you got her on Initial run, you will not get second on rerun. And if you haven't got it on initial run, you can get it on rerun

So it's not biggie

[abstract cypress]

its big

[sharp wing]

[abstract cypress]

no medal no

[sharp wing]

Want to flex in dorm?

[abstract cypress]

lose to low lvled ijn

what could go wrong

[sharp wing]

If in doubt, restart

[abstract cypress]

wasting time

[sharp wing]

1-2 mins

lower lvl fights are funnier

I miss pre 110 times

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i only had one time that took like 10-20 minutes of me not paying strict attention

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im also lazy

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then i swapped in hiryuu cause safety

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hiryuu mirrors is bs tho

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na for the reset safety

i wasnt fully paying attention

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ah

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that's why it took so long xD

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namaryuu mirrors is coinflip

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yeah

that's why i like sara ;))))

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Yr amagi and nyaga refuse to barrage and

you know what happens

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yep

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Each reset i have at least 1 fight w/ 0 Nyaga barrages

usually like 50/50

5-10% times u get her barrage each time

Time to go lvl my Wasd

They will be stuck at 110 for long while

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after pvp core imma try biscuit

as next 120

and warspite probably after that

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my ws only 90k

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120 with 200 aff

can't wait to blow up ijn

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I wonder if we will be getting unnerfed events now with 120

Implying you won't use WS w/ IJN

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i'm in wash

I can fuck around

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well, like

if i 120 biscuit and she works even ok

i could move amagi to mid

to protect her from aimed shells

xD

and just put warspite or biscuit top

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then slap an ap gun so she can duel heavies better

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You getting crazier each day

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while warspite would have the he gun

hey man, it's boring if it's always the same

gotta spice things up

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i know

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the theory is good, the stats arent though xD

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But dun want to waste even 1 more second in pvp, than needed

cause that's boring

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my 70% meme team is too fun

fastest resets as well

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your profile pic is cute!

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xD

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but not as dank as my doggo

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