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i dont recall gear tiers affecting dmg except on planes
I would personally use even purple magtorps over gold normal quints simply for the homing effect
I'd probably go for gold 533 over gold homing, but 
i wouldnt 
Gear tiers affect all weaps stats
Of course gear tiers affect damage wdym
Damage, reload etc
They affect everything about the gear
and I've seen people getting confused with tiers in tier lists that rank the gear's utility 
Also ppl usually don't look on tiers but on stars and rarity...
In game tiers arent tiers that people make
@rough cobalt do you have mamagi?
I thought the tier is based on the gear stats, but today I learned that tiers affect everything about the gear
Yes but they gotta look at weapon tier too
T3 > T2 > T1 every time
well mag torp is the perfect example of tech affect a gear stat
T0 means its a unique
yikes
t0 means that there are no other version of a gear
And while T0 planes can do more damage if it actually has T0 weapons, it depends on the other stats
which just mean that it might not be the best
There t0 of gears with t1-t3 tho..
Where?
thats my point its better to look at stats
gear table on wiki doesn't even show tiers
so i dont see how its relevant
wait there t0 of farmable gear?
sadly the game does a fucking awful job of explaining end dmg or even raw output dmg, the math some of the chinese players did is some
levels
Purple quint is T1
i don't remember we have 1
meme gun
Thats a unique weapon
lol that shit gun
put skin on
And its useless
Unless u want vanguard to mvp for farming
Tier affects stats...
Yes
So it affects damage output...
and im saying tiers are independent of stats
Calcs dont need to take gear tier into account cause its based on the gears stats
tfw you can just agree to just check the wiki on max stat instead of debate about tier / tech of a gear
lel
well we were just gonna suggest some ships to a guy
Use the one that'll make the other ships go boom
How tier can be independent of stats? If stats depends on tier of same gear
type 3 shell is good cause it let my ironblood crusiers get mvp during roon grinding
put some really annoying skin on it
DoY debuffing xD
But even then probly not
w12 13 you need CV period

The skin goes away after it splits
a lone BB with AA ain't going to cut it
No fakkyu rain 
especially with air control
I mean ofc bring CV to 12 and 13, bringing a solo BB would be sudoku
you don't want to use 410 with massa
I prepared gold 406 for massa ๐
Massa?
amagi or nagato for ijn main fleet?
But i asked some guy in Jp to test 410 on massa.. Said it kinda worked
but unless youre trying to go for top 100 you really dont have to worry about your defence fleet
and if you are trying to go for top 100 thats awhole nother can of beans

Never used foxes in pvp too 
plot twist but def fleet mean nothing for the top 10 hardcore pvp
they just adjust their last min rush accordingly
Calcs dont need to take gear tier into account cause its based on the gears stats
Foxes were annoying to fight for like a month and then i got a better fleet and they're actually a joke to fight now
you just made my point
What was your point?
I'd rather try Amagi Naga + (Hiryuu, KagaBB, HyuugaKai, Enty) depends what you have lvled
the last min rush system is so stupid
gear tiers are irrelevant and you should look at stats instead
But Stats depend on TIERs
They arent irrelevant but yes stats are important
lel
If you find a strong gear and see T2 instead of T3 then you know you can get a better one
Other than that
here we go again 
If you compare t3 gold quad homing to t2 gold homing....
Use whatever makes biggest boom and other ship go glub 
can we just agree that just check the wiki or ask guru for which is better?
this discussion is getting no where
ikr
T3 quad is just T3 quint with one fewer torp
Some ppl will not learn, till they die

all i wanted to add was that mag torp rng fucked me so many times i dropped them 

T2 quint is a slow af version of the T2 quad
The purpose of tech levels is 1) to show the player what version of the gear they are looking at and 2) to allow to infer some stats for other gear of the same family given the same enhancement level
- It makes the player aware if his gear is the best version already
- For example, we know that +10 rainbow mag quint has 145 damage per torp, 52 range and 60 degrees angle
Since it's a T3 equip we can infer that purple mag triple and gold mag quad both have 145 damage per torp as well since they are also T3 and also mag torps
For anything else they are not used
fuck, seems like I was too late

LMFAO

when you late to the party
Big OoF
gears dont matter
lol
Send every ship to battle naked
Sandbag is our all

sand bag is the future IF only a select few sang bag
gear alone cant make u top ten
just give me my patch notes already yostar

if everyone sang bag = no 1 can sand bag
Onlt RNGesus can give you top 10
If everyone is number 1, nobody is
Actually thats incorrect cause technically everyone COULD be rank 1 if they all tied
It would still say 1 
technically, just remove bonus points and make battles unrestartable
ifi had to camp my exercises til last minute to make sure im getting those 2 fucking points id uninstall the game 
YEah
Everything is a meme
Life is a meme

Jk mine is like 90.5
cant even be 100% without avrora 
Someday imma be at 95

its prs wht
But after tomorrow its gonna be even lower
CBT could
you can get Avrora on anni event 
There have been people with 100
not in the past


Before PR CBT could be 100
thats why the movie didnt sell
Yeah dont call people flying elephants wtf
Tho i got all collabs...
lol

Ppl don't get my event waifu goals...

lucky you

Same as Jintsuu
Built Lewdis few days after release
ginna get my 2nd avrora soon
@raw osprey 

Hopefully will get my first snow waifu in august
enty skin is snow waifu?



put 3 rangers in backline so once every 5 matches you destroy someo-oh wait they just pause and restart 
Shoot as fast as u can and they wont be able to hit you



I'm not even done w/ 1st
how do you keep your sanity
i had to grind 85% in 24 hours
Bedsick is the perfect time to play phone games

welp that change a lot

how can u play if u sick
also your choice resemble me
ofc i sleep
Yeah tbh i was bedsick a weeks ago and all I did was sleep for 2 days
Understandable
you just keep thinking about destroying everyone in #trophy-room by flexing 6 PR waifus after 6 weeks of hard work
that should be enough to keep you sane

Nice flex
i yold u this pr grind is no match to tye grind i did in gbf
resources are unlimited there so lol
๐
GBF is a tier of it's own
GBF oh gawd...
Gnf grinding 
It's more grindy, than korean MMORPGs
all 6 prs is just equivalent to one flb jutenshu

Okay i gotta go yall have fun
sanity wasn't even in question
pr4 when
the fact that you need to farm 6 diff elemental grid is fucking insane
If someone starts arguing about tiers again @ me 
o.o
@wicked rivet
That's same for any elemental gacha
No me
Wanna make my gear a little better and squad up 
squad up? no one told me guild pvp was out
@wicked rivet we're still not finished but too many memers rn 


is oka



Carry plox
Princess carry plox
imagine losing sleep so you can be top 10 with 0 reward in a mobile that going to shut down in the future
lel

Imagine attempting anything because that thing wont matter sometime in the far future 
at least flexing with pr ships shows dedication
Imaging living, if you gonna die in the end
Tru
that guy that got mad cuz he cant flex with 0.0001% pulls in AL was 

we need to make ourselves busy, or we'll die from boredom! ๐
slither back to FGO

shit got philosophical all of a sudden
tfw #pvp is more helpful both IRL and virtual than #gameplay-help can ever be
now that is a win in my book

80% of players ignore pvp
We got u fam
except OSRS
who said im human
that game will live until an asteroid hits this planet
we dont die we get isekai'd


Hold my beer

sao after s1 is trainwreck
U mean part 2 of S1
Yeah thats what i meant
but he's a bad boi
Arc 2
needs to be isekai'd to Konosuba
konosuba is the good isekai tho
u dont need to live with them
I prefer Grimgar, but anything works
Who cares if theyre trash as long as they look good



Mogamin*




It's not Isekai, Since commander isn't transported here from another world
Truck-kun transports to where truck-kun pleases
I'd rather be a bote girl than shikikan

@spring fablesubaru
what if your shikikan is the one from the ntr doujins? 
Wait i misread that
Which bote u'd like to be?

some sort of tiddybote
no

I'd be a chuuni smol tiddybote probably 
Hestia did
Okay i gotta go u weebs have fun



if its a german truck youll be the villain

if its french youll get t he airhead useless chara
no isekai
if its japenese youll be the edgy naruto ripoff
Or just Ugly Bastardo
oh no

?
nah
BTW... it's getting late... and no tweets...
is it possible to get the event with no maintenance 
Nah, we need banners and stuff, need at least smol maint
Even if they already loaded data in previous
we better prepare our pitchforks then
if the assets are in the game, you can push a data update that reveals everything, and it will be barely noticeable
but we are talking about people that screwed up 10 hour long maint after postponing an update for 4 days
Well, it isn't anyway
so my expectation is "not actually this week, lol"

I just don't want to wake up 1-2 hrs after maint starts
It's already 2 am
So i'd like to know...
Depending on that i will change my course of actions
get a job that you have to wake up for in 6 hours, that will set you straight
well, he originally typed 25th iirc... then deleted and posted that pic, lol


Sirius mess
Also funny, how they called 1 of original botes a rerun bote even in apollo-letter

now look at sirius noone uses her anymore except me 
Yep, they messed up which of the pair was original and which was rerun
Some Nakaga users...
this letter was a scrappy pr move

letter?
Dig game news
they wrote an apology because of Drama around Winters Crown

people made that into drama?
A big one

You should see tweet/fb page
it was a drama thats why they wrote that letter
I forgot how full of shit this letter was
I am too tired to be mad about it
RE RUN CONTENT AFTER LVL 120 BTW
looool

here Yukikaze
why care about that

theyre obviously fastlaning EN to get us to catch up to the other servers one day
if you dont like something just quit the game brah
just go play something else
looool
Well, KR done damn fine rush in that department
salty about free content 
But i'm all fine with En pace

And we get some Global events too
Main suggestions for what I should work on next for my PVP team? Things I'm currently considering is --> 2 days away from last oxy torp for Jintsuu, Barrage gun for Yukikaze, defense/mobility item for DD instead of autoloader
What else should I work on?
https://puu.sh/DvVCk.png
Well, Bis event is 1st part of 3 parts of anniv
Oxitorps 
Where do you check when you started? O:
not event

Humu that might actually work 

Read the guide in pined , fix yr gears... and some idea on comp
replace Ayaya with Jesus 
you should work on getting equipment that is actually good and checking the stickied tier list for ideas
Sure o:
wait ur asking about offense comp?
Depends on where you at at ladder...
Getting high in ladder is just playing daily resets
i wish

its waiting last minute to gain +2 points per battle
and restarting game
to heck leaderboard
It's sandbag hell
Yr gears needs serious fixing anyway
I bet
Anyway I'll look at pins, just joined the pvp club so I'll check it
like belfast
Well if he sets Jin tank and Yukie offtank, it will work
๐ Aurora
i think ayaya dies way too fast anyway
But they are just paper w/ Oxi+loader, lol
Jints/Aurora/Ykkz
kawakaze or ayayami?
none tbh
kawakaze 

Uhh, is nobody going to mention the autoloaders on the entire VG
we did tho
I mentioned...
They did
you should work on getting equipment that is actually good and checking the stickied tier list for ideas
vanguard exists to not die
I also mentioned I'm changing those out for defensive/mobility when I can
Ah, overlooked it
backline does dmg
yukie vs Yukie pvp is cancer xD
yukie waiting for hiryuu to go out of hiding is more cancer
It's like enty vs enty
1 1 1 1 1 111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

and turn into a BB
- barrage
Hm I'll try swapping ayaya for aurora
๐
I have her capped already so

Ew but this means if I need to ring aurora soon
My Eld was on my def fleet till Yukie
LOL

I'm doing her atm
She's kawaii
botes that have waifu value and are actually amazing are comfy

always hurts when you like a bote but can never use her
Like... My FW main waifu was Wasp... Nyaga event - Harutsuki... Etc... 
my first oath was z23
Mogami was on spot tho
she sits in dock now

between terminator bunny, ykkz and torpedo assassin
you just dont need many DDs
best girl Naka
Drop tank = just for tankiness?
drop tank only if youre using messerschmitt
o
u dont rly need it
It's to increase touchdown planes damage...
I'm just running double catapult atm so IDK what to do instead
That's mostly for Solo Cvs tho
oic
If you run foxes, can do full cata

I mean usually fox sister's first strike knocks out almost anything dangerous anyway uwu
ya
- nagato
Tell that to my WASD eating planes for breakfast 
OK my mainfleet is pretty set minus a gold belgun on nagato, vanguard time

namba 1
cant wait for sandy kai event
Juneau also eats planes
Aaaaa It's super depressing I've been through over a hundred ironblood boxes recently and no more gold guided torps
Funny, when Junea is last ship alive
Man, i haven't got single gold homing after event...
i once had the same but with belfast with pearl was last ship alive
she won but was kinda wrong way to win

my favorite is when belf puts the smoke at like bottom
cuz of the AI
then eats like 10 torps
rip
But smoke isn't area skill, it just buffs vg?

its an area skill tho
cuz when you stray away from it
the blue buff thingy disappears
Hmm
and ive noticed a difference as a nakaga user
against belfasts
that when their vg exits the smoke I hit them with no issue

thats how belfast works
It's hard to see borders tho
On Emu mostly
In the very middle it's seen clearly
i restart if its obv ill lose
Well, w/ wasd it's hard to tell, untill one of em dies
its a bit more straightforward with mine
im still lvling jintsuu
portkai is in her place atm
but doesnt relaly matter
for offense
staring at game-news intensifies
staring at game-news intensifies
for me the signal im gonna lose against a meta team is if my foxes fail to nuke the front before my own front dies
then i restart

i also dont have amagi but dont tell anyone

wat
I might only restart, if Washi dies before Sodako
i started playing feb
oh lol
it is unfortunate
well yeah im sure with wasd if wa dies before the proc then ur whole purpose is done
6 oxy torp vang

is it physically possible to even have more than 4 oxytorps rn
ofc it is
I only have 2 from events
2 from events
You potentially could buy 4
well im gonna be able to acquire a third soon
mhm
Nagat+ Amagi
That's my point
oxy torp is for meeting hardmode/event reqs...
give third to terminator bunny
mhm
i have 1 on aya and laffo

Tho i dun use laffo
Esp after PR release, w/ cruisers grind
ye
I cleared 10 and 11 just these days
Also i play since September 
Got lulu and Sendai before 3* maps too
Gotta get to Jin mines...
Too many gachas
Also Al is one of most f2p friendly gachas
ye but the girls are so cute

my first money was spent cuz i couldnt look at my empty dorm
lol
thats how they git ya
ya they got me good

like 250 euro deep 
My money were spent instantly, when i looked at the amount of waifus and my dorm slots... And i never retire waifus

I actually just heard about anniversary refresh, lol
ye my whale friend told me about it
Anniversary refreshes double gems...

3 am too
nice
Well, might sit at this 6/10 till 5 mins before reset

Got 2 3k fleets anyway
hoping for tweet in 10 mins
that last tweet on new dorm set is dated 5/23
I know
my pitchforks are ready
I already pointed that out

new dorm set actually looks clean af
if we dont get a tweet about patch length imma do 10 matches lol
If EN won't get Marck for tomorrow

https://youtu.be/7wClS8BuGuI?t=727
for all of you belfast lover here your girl in action (kindda)
How many times have you escaped death without even realising it? The following butterfly effect experiences were shared by Reddit users and subscribers. Warn...
now that KGV is announced as an exchange bote
I don't really feel the need to stock too much gold
time to continue PR expenditures
tfw you get 7 KGV and 0 bisko with 400 cubes
if anything i say the rate is a fucking lie
everyone always somehow miss the ship with a higher rate
8 skk 3 zkk before i got ykkz 
rate up is a lie
took me 1 week to get nagato, probably spent 100 cubes before getting her
and spent 5 dollars
So far I think wash is the only event ship that I really wanted that I didn't pull first day
i missed fallen wings, joined around divergent chessboard so didnt get tirpitz
though now that I think about it, the only event cons ships I really wanted have been Wash, ykkz, and Nagato
so... I suppose not that surprising then....
I'm ready for the shitstorm
Is the 76 really better for Yuki and Ayaya than the twin 100? It certainly doesn't seem to change anything aside from making the normal gunfire weak AF.
their gunshots will be weak af no matter what you use
the idea is to proc their skills/barrages as often as possible instead
Are slightly more frequent barrages really worth the reduced AA?
That's an open question
Imo not for ykkz vs teams with any CVs, who's main goal is survival/stall anyways
For Aya, she really wants to maximize her skill uptime for torp nuking, so 
For their pitifully low AAs, the +30 AA is worth >10% more eHP vs planes
its a tradeoff yes so feel free to use either of the two
we get the same wishing well as JP does
which means only ships added at/before March 23rd
Aurora should be well before that, thankfully
tweet is out
So perhaps the 2x100 for Yuki and the 1x76 for Ayaya?
(pretty useless to me though, this wishing well)
That's my opinion on the matter, yes
we got our maint
Ark is anniversary

8hr maintenance
I'm not falling for that shit again.
lmao
they are pretty much deepfrying codes for EN
"We accidentally configured Bismarck as a submarine. Maintenance will be extended six hours."
"Whoops, this time it's Hood, come back tomorrow I suppose"

nothing to buy

lol
not like you safe when anniversary roll around lel
also wishing well is pretty much useless lel
i got all the fucking ship prior to 23
zzz
was cleveland's new bros out by then?
I'll use it on some rando ships if it forces us, that don't impact chance to get the ships I'm missing
or maybe get some dupes for LB in the pools I'd already be pulling in, at different rarity, hmmmm
i'll probably use it on PoW 
Also I wonder what happens if you pick a ship with higher base rate than the one listed
can u use the drop rate up on subs?
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