im not inspired
#pvp
shy hazel
charred sable
sure, gimme a min
shy hazel
and its not like it has difference on what u know
real notch
damn
buoyant parrot
NICE!! finally
shy hazel
its hidden
buoyant parrot
bwahahaha I get to test Namabaka on a fully oath WASDA!!!! KEWL!!!!!
shy hazel
right click the tab
charred sable
tell me what setup you want and I'll switch to it
buoyant parrot
Switch to WASDA
charred sable
in like 5 mins, have to finish this PvE first
buoyant parrot
okay okay take your time
charred sable
Washington/South Dakota/Amagi? or
Washington/South Dakota/Enterprise
real notch
do u wanna see some soft neet thighs
charred sable
what do you want for frontline
buoyant parrot
F the Enterprise that's 100% no match
charred sable
Yukikaze isnt 110 yet, Juneau is 109 so close enough
real notch
i will show u if i must
buoyant parrot
That's okay
buoyant parrot
I just need to see how efficient the damage where when backline hits and I can tweak my VG to match yours anyway
shy hazel
and i need lots of pics
like how u should wait
and what time you should aim for
its better to take pics when reset is just done
u can get alot of bites most of the time
real notch
charred sable
I'll go Belfast, Yukikaze, Juneau, thats probably the best I can put out for defence with WASDA
real notch
i thought this was for dummies
shy hazel
its gonna be more focused on pics than text
because its for dummies
ill add graphics like amazon pointer
and etc
charred sable
Azur Lane PvP for dummies:
- Hover-finger over that pause button
- Press it when it looks like you're about to lose
- Press button and restart fight
- Repeat 1-3
shy hazel
that's not sandbagging ๐
shy hazel
dont make too many tabs
real notch
but no, this guide has to be minimal memeing and utmost serious
potential innocent newbies are looking at this
shy hazel
i actually want a tab
charred sable
hyper-tapping is the real Azur Lane PvP meta
buoyant parrot
Namabaka VS Amakaga
game 1 - win
game 2 - win
game 3 - win (No BB Kaga skill proc but Nagato Proc 2x)
game 4 - win
game 5 - loss (Unlucky stupid RNG Amagi can't cary even with complete proc of skills)
game 6 - win (Almost lost no proc of Nagato skill)
game 7- win
game 8 - win (Dangerously almost lost Torp wiped VG prematurely but still win win 20% HP left)
game 9 - win (Absolute win 80% HP left )
game 10 - win
charred sable
it might not accurately represent the true best in slot setup, but it'll be pretty indicative of meta change trends over time
real notch
hopefully, if the top 10 don't build meme fleets
buoyant parrot
so that's a data of 9/10
that proves Namabaka is like eating Amakaga for breakfast and that's 2nd Set of over 10 match against Amakaga
over all 18/20
charred sable
have you tested Team Fluffy Tail?
buoyant parrot
now we go for WASDA!!!
charred sable
aka Nagato, Amagi, Akagi?
buoyant parrot
haven't tested against Namakaga yet
charred sable
I want to run that on defence just cause
buoyant parrot
I haven't seen a 110 Nagato in my list so far
charred sable
Akagi's love for shikikan will make up for her lack of Kaga
buoyant parrot
so Far Namabaka is true to its T1 Ranking
I hope I can make her T0
I feel like I'm going to have issue against Namaryuu
Haven't seen Nagato Amagi Akagi yet
I would love to see Zack's Namaryuu and see if Namabaka stands a chance
yeah and there's like 40% chance of skill not triggering... Basically if Nagato skill didn't trigger even once
that's already 40% chance of losing
having that said if BB kaga did not proc skill even once and Nagato skill did not as well.. Consider yourself losing
Namabaka is like somewhat an RNG base fleet... T___T
yeah ๐
anyway that's 20 match of data for Namakaga
Now I need a solid WASDA
then Namaryuu
charred sable
ok, setting up right now
buoyant parrot
thanks a bunch!
winged idol
Which compo is namabaka?
buoyant parrot
Nagato Amagi BB Kaga
winged idol
Ah okay ty
charred sable
@buoyant parrot
buoyant parrot
SWEEEEEEEEE JESUS!
charred sable
charred sable
you mean you relog? xD
charred sable
would be weird if I had to relog lol
buoyant parrot
still showing as
charred sable
Gonna use one attack now though
buoyant parrot
hold on ill re log
charred sable
I just relogged as well
charred sable
uninstall 
hot creek
you'd be testing against a serverely underleveled nanoda anyways. thats 16% damage extra damage taken/given
charred sable
my numbers should be much lower now cause Nagato will be half naked atm
buoyant parrot
your def line won't refresh its soo weird
charred sable
which I dont see to be a problem 
buoyant parrot
I had remove my my jintsu and replaced it with trashy Unit to compromise the damage
What I need testing with is damage output of backline
and LUCK
charred sable
16% damage wont break a fight in this case
buoyant parrot
but anyway I can't even start
charred sable
since its a backline fight
zenith tundra
what do u want to test ether?
charred sable
my points now should be 790
buoyant parrot
against WASDA
charred sable
so if Im still showing as 772 for you, then its an issue on your side ๐
hot creek
I mean if you wanna "backline fight" then just put lvl 1 VG then
buoyant parrot
I can't that would decimate my Backline too fast
don't worry about the testing part... I got that covered
I need Keripo's WASDA to show on my screen first lol
buoyant parrot
yeah
zenith tundra
free win unless u really don't proc 1 barrage
and maybe even like that u would still win
buoyant parrot
this data sums up my fight with Amakaga
1st Set result 9/10
Namabaka VS Amakaga 2nd Set
game 1 - win
game 2 - win
game 3 - win (No BB Kaga skill proc but Nagato Proc 2x)
game 4 - win
game 5 - loss (Unlucky stupid RNG Amagi can't cary even with complete proc of skills)
game 6 - win (Almost lost no proc of Nagato skill)
game 7- win
game 8 - win (Dangerously almost lost Torp wiped VG prematurely but still win win 20% HP left)
game 9 - win (Absolute win 80% HP left )
game 10 - win
zenith tundra
i would be more interested in trying wasda offense vs namagi kaga bb
buoyant parrot
but Ive been doing WASDA offense for so long... Well I I haven't tried it against a Namaryuu or Nakaga
I'll try that should I ever bump into your Namaryuu
zenith tundra
i'm actually using namagi kaga bb
buoyant parrot
oh good 2 person testing it now nice
It's pretty much safe to say that Nakabaka is T1 could be T0 when testing is complete... Its showing a promising result so far
zenith tundra
i think it's under tiered
dry socket
Coinflips are the hardest to tier
buoyant parrot
yeah
dry socket
Baka's barrage is a pain to face if it procs
zenith tundra
nakaga might be the only comps it really struggles with
can't wait for normal people to start using nagato comps
hazy rain
just a couple days more :D
buoyant parrot
@zenith tundra have you seen this?
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/baoliyXT8GVUGQp1x-dEKfRFv9yGRJBObZyzkNgxdns/https/i.imgur.com/jmTIfXZ.mp4
zenith tundra
what is that?
buoyant parrot
Georgia
Iron Sight Caliber
Decrease main gun spread by 3. damage is increased by 20% against heavy cruisers and BBs.
Heavy Barrel Blaster
80% chance to launch a special barrage when firing main gun. Guaranteed crit on barrage, damage is dependant on skill level
coral wren
Looks like a proper manual aiming
zenith tundra
80% huh guess 70% is outdated
dry socket
It seems like this one doesn't increase in chance of proc?
70% to 80% may have been what they meant
buoyant parrot
@charred sable Thanks all good now
dry socket
multiple ~4.8k damage across the backline and ~300 damage bullet hell barrage
shy hazel
think outside the box
zenith tundra
if u level ur mutsu to lvl 110 u can test it
dry socket
Georgia's changing up the PvP meta, I would assume
shy hazel
dry socket
definitely so
zenith tundra
told u is free
buoyant parrot
oh shoot its not showing the BB's HP
and look at 2nd set of Salvo coming in...
Free win...
2nd match already a win
game 3 - win
game 4 - win
game 5 - win
game 6 - win
game 7 - win
game 8 - win
game 9 - win
game 10- win
perfect
hardly even a challenge
WASDA is food for Namabaka... 
@charred sable thanks again 
I've remove Yukikaze and replaced it with Laffey Lv100
still win
By a large Margin
dry socket
buoyant parrot
that concludes Namabaka against WASDA
charred sable
Nagato + Amagi alone drastically outdamages WASDA
Im sure you can replace BB Kaga with any wildcard and still win
buoyant parrot
yeah... actually Just by having BB Kaga proc skill + Amagi = WIN
BB Kaga packs too much fire power
charred sable
Washington + South Dakota pivots on Washington's save of South Dakota to gain that extra round vs round win. But Nagato's reload buff will let her side fire off the next round faster anyway so essentially WASD ends up being half a round behind
that and the fact that BBs decimate frontline so its a force backline vs backline fight
that's why Ive always felt WASD to be weak - there's not enough synergy
buoyant parrot
I Wouldn't say WASDA is weak, It decimates Amakaga easily
but then again when par with BB Fights... Its kinda shaky
cerulean estuary
wasda is weak? wat da 
charred sable
yeah, it decimates cause its a BB vs CV fight
and at 110, BBs get a much bigger stat buff than CVs I believe
shy hazel
after players start gearing up more and kill wasda faster
buoyant parrot
HP Pool is too high
cerulean estuary
dont use the term WEAK bro , its too offensive you know , in all servers CN / JP /KR / EN
all can tell there are not WEAK
charred sable
fine, "weak" probably isnt the right term. "Not fully synergized" feels more accurate
buoyant parrot
I believe we will have to do a test with WASDA once Nagato setup are prevalent in PvP
charred sable
that I feel is what the Washington/South Dakota pair is missing
charred sable
it should have been North Carolina :/
who knows though
maybe there'll add a BB North Carolina
in a bunny outfit
shy hazel
i heard she had skill like
add more firepower when sd is on stage
anf a barrage?
anti air barrage though
buoyant parrot
that would have been amazing
buoyant parrot
don't mind the USS... Their time will come... AKA Georgia
WASDA is T0 right now wasn't it scaled to T1?
shy hazel
few ppl still has maxed nagato teams to crack top wasdas
maybe tier it down after a month
buoyant parrot
alright then
hot creek
wasdA was only ever good at walling amakaga and pre doy HMS anyways
now that nagato is here, they can't do shit about the ridiculous damage output IJN has
might as well tier them down now
hazy rain
what is the best BB auxiliary for PvP?
shy hazel
lol
hazy rain
I meant aux gun
shy hazel
belgun then ye
hazy rain
don't DD guns have better DPS?
hot creek
belgun for offense. DD gun for defense
hazy rain
but what about BBs who can't use CL guns on offense
|| BBs that can't use DD gun on defense?
shy hazel
i mean u can
just use the two of them
whatever
thing is
belgun adds fp
fp adds more
ugh
what u call this
barrage dmg
dd gun does more dps
on vg that gets close to u
when ur vg is wiped
and anti air
wasda era i prefer dd gun more everywhere
now i just put belgun on nagato amagi
did anyone made gurren mad
buoyant parrot
huh?
shy hazel
buoyant parrot
She's so HAUTY!
coral wren
at what time of the season do close rank battles get to +10 points?
shy hazel
should be in two more daily resets
charred sable
@buoyant parrot need to test anything else? gonna burn my attacks now and switch back to previous setup
buoyant parrot
@charred sable I'm all good thanks
zenith tundra
for a how dmg reduction works adding aa on weak aa ships reduces dmg taken by planes more then on ships with high aa
zenith tundra
ex: a ship with 150 aa uses dd gun it gives a more significant dmg reduction then a 300 aa ship gets from using the same gun
charred sable
I assume youre referring to diminishing returns
zenith tundra
with 127 u get around 3-4% dmg reduction from planes and lose 3-4% dmg conpared to belgun. its a pretty even exchange
charred sable
Fken Juneau won't give up
zenith tundra
u need to make sure she sinks tho
ionic magnet
those AA and/or FP bonuses on aux guns are too little to matter imo
charred sable
Tfw Nagato's lowest damage 
ionic magnet
if im using solo BB/BC then ill pick 127 for sure since belgun is terrible in killing VGs
if im using 3 BB backline then i can get away with belguns
zenith tundra
nagato needs 127 because of flagship imo
i only noticed it in wc because i used her for sirens
if only belgun wasnt so slow
modest elbow
this namabaka looks interesting, what guns are they using
modest elbow
i see
zenith tundra
@modern tree is 410 viable on qe doy over 2 406?
stark raft
I think id rather have doy burst with 406 than more debuffs; QE is just there for buff and it's w/e but DoY shoots first anyway
but i'd like to hear from hms guy daxam
trail elm
[EN PvP] if you want to take out either of the enemy foxes to cripple their pair bonus, which first skill shot would you go for: Duke of York's Concerto of Blood or Warspite (non-kai, cause EN) and her Divine Marksman?
shy hazel
i remember daxam telling ws
trail elm
or would you just prefer to kill the vanguard asap, no gimmicky nonsense, so you can kill the backline afterwards?
stark raft
Concerto doesnt hit that hard so it's warspite
lament lichen
The bonus is still there as the buff is already applied at the start
trail elm
would the fact that Dork has another skill to abuse sway that argument to her side?
ionic magnet
ws barrage is 2-3x stronger than doys
trail elm
i'm a dumbass
i forgot vanilla warspite's skill has crit
i just looked at the wiki's barrage entry. don't mind me.
stark raft
it's not a waste if yuki actually gets hit by it
trail elm
it has. i just forgot vanilla has it too
stark raft
yeah but when it does feels really good
modest elbow
uhhh... ws snipe can whiff?
stark raft
dork 1st salvo with the added dmg
ionic magnet
from my experience doy's first shot aims at backline most of the time tho its prolly random so w/e
versed atlas
another day of no nagato
buoyant parrot
@versed atlas 
elder crane
So the PR1 additional enhancements with the release of PR2 also buffs PR skills (as well as a total of +15 luck apparently)
Mostly nice bonuses like Roon activating EX barrage immediately, Louis Speed Boost lasting 50 s instead of 40, Monarch total healing increased to 15%
Izumo has her barrage modified to have half the shots BB normal ammo instead of AP
When changing ammo type on BB shells from AP to Normal is considered a buff 
(tbf there's probably a damage buff to barrage too)
buoyant parrot
I still think Izumo sucks lol
elder crane
Yeah, I'm just memeing on how terrible BBAP is considered to be
Unless the barrage gets seriously buffed she'll still be by far the worst PR ship
buoyant parrot
silver root
namabaka 
modern tree
410 on Dork is absolutely viable and preferable depending on your lineup. If your torps hit really hard, you want the debuff to hit VG/backline before the second wave of torps, and it will always be followed by QE 406 damage and she's no slouch if she hits
I ran it mostly because my belfast was mid and she was holding oxy, so she can be buffed by sheff with bulge instead of whatever else to rise her HP
I am not sure if I'd do it now, if I ran June/x/Ykkz
cuz good torps are gonna be launched late as fuck and you usually would run something tanky mid
zenith tundra
shouldnt yukikaze torp do more then belfast?
modern tree
I ran doy when ykkz was not a thing, I was running Warspite later cuz I love her I think she did better against Amagi with fox
elder crane
Bel with one oxytorp does almost/about the same torp damage as ykkz with none, perhaps surprisingly
zenith tundra
half izumo barrage as normal shoots is actually a pretty good buff tbh. she can actually kill light armor stuff while still being amazing against medium and heavy imo
elder crane
I think she might also get a small dmg buff so that you don't lose any dmg vs med/heavy
Preempts complaining and it's not like Izumo is OP
modern tree
Generally Warspite is unfairly overlooked as inferior to doy, while she gives a fucking lot shelling consistency to otherwise rather RNG BB line
zenith tundra
how good is her dmg output?
iizumo might not be op but with that buff she should be viable at least now
modern tree
Always outddamages Hood so does dork. Divine Marksman is just inevitable. Shoots slightly faser than 410, hits much harder than 410, lands on something, always
elder crane
I was hoping for the loss of the HE extra damage taken, would make sense with how she was buffed in WoWS
In fact would've made total sense with all shelling damage decreased with how she is in WoWS now
modern tree
basically, because ykkz exists and vgs are fast+tanky, Warspite provides a consistency in shitting on the backline while your battleships are shooting whatever. Doy barrage is neat but it will hit like maybe one or two projectiles per salvo, for like 450 damage
zenith tundra
im not so sure its necessarely because wows that she got buff because tbh she was so bad in al she definitely needed a buff for how much u need to get her
at least till centaur i can see ws being more useful. maybe centaur can kill vg allowing doy to be more consistent on backlines
modern tree
I mean, we are getting Monarch first so both Warspite and Doy are useless now
silver root
what will be the lineup with monarch? QE and who else
modern tree
Cuz you will aways run Monarch Hood, just like you will always run Centaur Monarch after Centaur drops
there is really very little arguments for anything else
zenith tundra
i dont really see hood monaech as a good xomp but 
zenith tundra
i mean we still havent seen nagato comps on def yet
modern tree
Let me explain how buffing reload of a ship that has higher reload than DDs and a barrage that erases everything in front of her is good
it is
thanks for listening
basically, if you assume Amagi/Fox strike
then you have Monarch hurt
then she buffs her reload
then you buff it again with Hood
depending on how fucked up Monarch is, the number gets to like 300+
zenith tundra
nakaga is bad imo
modern tree
I do not know how shooting a thing that is gonna die with Warspite or RNG slamming something with doy even compares to hood barrage that slams it quite hard on its own, on top of Monarch
besides, Hood is like only HMS ship with AA and even if foxes arent there, Hiryuu is
It seems quite obvious to me, then again I have played more HMS than a mortal man should be able to handle
zenith tundra
i still dont like ppl just assuming stuff tbh. if u played monarch on some other server i can see why u would know how good she is but mostly of the time just repeating what other people say u just end up with wrong ideas like nakaga is a god comp. in not saying monarch is bad just i would wait to just assume a comp works better without any test
buoyant parrot
DonaldTrump stopped PvP
modern tree
Okay but you have 3 options and I do not need to see them play out to know that one of the 3 is doing nothing, one of the 3 is RNG and one of the 3 does something on its own + buffs my other shit, ergo, it is much more likely to be correct
finite valve
when being a president of a country take too much time to dedicated yourself to a mobie phone
modern tree
Its Warspite, Doy and Hood respectively
finite valve
#relatable
buoyant parrot
I will go HMS once Monarch is out but without QE around. I don't even know if that's still considered HMS
Will probably revolve around monarch that's for sure
Monarch, Amagi, Hood
or
Nagato, Monarch, Amagi
Last part is like more IJN lol
zenith tundra
why would u even bother with nagato outside of full ijn comps?
buoyant parrot
(maybe) will try QE, Monarch, Hood... JUST MAYBE...
Well... Just for the glory of Barrage montage
zenith tundra
she's not really that great unless u like a 40% barrage
zenith tundra
i thought u like 80% barrages not 40%
silver root
PR ships just got delayed
buoyant parrot
PR release for April 26 got moved to May 5
Instead they replaced it with Loli Belfast
blazing scroll
They should have given something better
buoyant parrot
I would have calm down with another rerun instead.... But meh... That's just me
zenith tundra
i read the thing. but what is that about pr ships unstable. are the devs in grade scool or something and cant fix their stuff
blazing scroll
I would be okay with sandy kai
buoyant parrot
I don't know maybe their trying to integrate the new mechanics of the new PR2 to our patch PR1 maybe?
zenith tundra
if that is it it would be ok but otherwise....
blazing scroll
You'd think to keep everything maintainable that the pr1 ships shouldn't have problems
silver root
idk if en is ready for pr2 yet, those ships look broken af
blazing scroll
Unless they changed a bunch
zenith tundra
we are already getting pr way later then we had to
random vault
rip pr
buoyant parrot
another reason for me to go to jail...
leaden sequoia
should be event exchange
10k points
also I guess we should support the last entry in #game-feedback 
they are hard to obtain the normal way, right?
buoyant parrot
What a shitty event
leaden sequoia
the strengthening units
buoyant parrot
I hope we get the re run version. But I highly doubt
leaden sequoia
mmm you mean the version without units
rerun removed them for some reason
and only set 10k as highest prize
violet comet
At least the gold bb BPs are useful for the future WS
buoyant parrot
regardless this suck balls...
buoyant parrot
That Kizuna Ai event better be good...
leaden sequoia
yeah, that's the old one
violet comet
I dont wanna have my hopes up
buoyant parrot
Just look at it this way... Another week or 2 of cube recovery
random vault
recover cube for what? kizuna ai event rolls? lol
elder crane
Well, not like PR takes many cubes if you don't do cube-eating research projects
buoyant parrot
Noooo~ for next big event of course
random vault
by the time next big event comes we'll be too busy grinding pr
livid fractal
What other ships needs to save cubes?
elder crane
Well, no guarantee that PR delay = next event delay
leaden sequoia
but you combine grinding for PR and other event, I suppose
unless it's something like a separate mini-game
elder crane
Events tend to have not that great XP, I think
buoyant parrot
I don't know maybe centaur event
leaden sequoia
yeah, events always give less exp for same enemy levels
buoyant parrot
Yeah I think she is
modest elbow
iirc rate up then perma
elder crane
So nice to get during rate up, but not crucial to go all-in
violet comet
@elder crane wym by cube eating research?
elder crane
Some research projects require you to give them cubes
leaden sequoia
Research has missions that consume cubes to run
violet comet
I see
elder crane
At least half of those are not worth running period, they're almost the worst projects period on time investment, even ignoring investment
violet comet
Oh
elder crane
there's 2 that may be worth if you have excess
violet comet
Guess Ill ask y'all when the time comes
leaden sequoia
Centaur 2% rate up during her mini-event: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Events/Midsummer_Sagittarius
elder crane
then 1-2 more if you really don't need cubes
violet comet
Rn Im just accumulating them yj
Yh*
Spending them just for the 3 ships
For dem points
elder crane
So the D-UH one is pretty good value if you have extra cubes (Eats 5 per time., and 5k coin)
And... I misremembered, that's the only one
There's two that take 3 cubes, and are decent if you are overflowing with cubes and are offered no better projects
the two that take 6 and 10 (especially the 10 one!) cubes are almost never worth running period, many other projects are better than those even mostly ignoring the cube cost
violet comet
Thanks!
elder crane
Source on calculations (warning: chinese fan forum, download link!):
http://img.nga.178.com/attachments/mon_201805/03/foQ5-5wzdKa.zip?filename=๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ.zip
Gives a summary of collected data (I can't find original data anywhere, sadly) on how many Ship and Equipment BPs each mission gives
buoyant parrot
Shoot I accidentally killed my experiment opponent... Nagato barrage and BB Kaga Barrage proced at the same time...
buoyant parrot
modern tree
cant wait for people to post up real fleets so I can run HMS again
hot creek
lmao theyre just going to call her Little Bel? thats hilarious
silver root
do we have a spreadsheet for calculating damage based on equipment and ships?
real notch
Owo i see @lime rivet
jovial sedge
livid fractal
hot creek
PR delay REEE. Guess i can spend this fuel in sub maps now
real notch
Syandaa tell me when you are doing your runs 
vague token
holy
i just saw a video of georgia's barrage
orbital strike!
can anyone confirm?
split socket
link?
vague token
modern tree
it looks like a bigger meme than Warspite barrage
vague token
yeah except instead of shoot 1 person
just orbital strike all of existence
xD
IS THIS THE POWER OF THE 18 INCH GUN?
split socket
that looks dope af
modern tree
vague token
oh ok
modern tree
her's all the PR shit btw
also
main part lands exactly where your first shot landed, so you will never hit shit with it lmao
modern tree
all the skills are out too, let me fetch
vague token
owo
modern tree
vague token
uh
that seattle skill
can she use 2 main guns?
or an aux
or an aa gun?
O.O
well pr2 is gonna be scary
georgia's barrage always crits
oh boi
modern tree
buffs to PR1 arent free btw
its extra 165 bps, that give them 15 luck and buff their skills
modern tree
not sure if it rises othar stats
modern tree
ye, bottom of the thread I linked
vague token
well, shield at start is pretty good
split socket
ibukis buff is also very nice
modern tree
I've heard that Izumo barrage change adds like 50% more normal shells to it
but I read chineese bad
so don't really know
split socket
I could translate if theres a jp version
modern tree
nep skill translates to something like MKV AP shells specialisation, so I imagine its just 5% more damag for her skill
modern tree
I mean, if she got 40% damage for her gun on top of 35% extra on AP
vague token
just looking at the list of cruiser guns
modern tree
that would be rather silly
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i mean
counter with roon shields
see gun team, use roon and just laugh for whatever the duration is
although 40% seems kinda silly
since AP+ is already better than AP by a lot
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xD
i mean, if it is 40%
you're gonna want to block that
ap+ already does 110 to light
her own ap multiplier
it's a lot of deeps
unless they count them separately like AP doesnt boost AP+
so it's just 5% more
but that'd be weird
oh ok
that's different too
roon trigger barrage at start is 100% different from trigger shield xD
from oh god no
to wow that's barely anything
i mean nepgun is still godlike at least
110 vs light, 90 vs medium, 70 vs heavy is solid
zenith tundra
ibuki and roon looks like got the short end of the stick
roon especially
outside of pvp i cannot see that roon thing as a buff in any way
zenith tundra
are u saying a barrage on nothing is better then extra heal?
ibuki buff also only useful in pvp too... she's still gonna be useless while waiting for torp
split socket
I mean, they are already really strong ships in the 1st place, just be glad they are getting buffs at all lol
zenith tundra
neptune boost looks good
it's just that they decided to buff them in different ways and ofc some got nothing really like roon
+1fp would've been a better boost for what roon is used tbh
split socket
I think it's still a pretty good pve buff, u could potentially reduce a lot of dmg just because it pops immediately
zenith tundra
that's for everyone
roon is a boss killer. unless u have a boss appearing at the beginning i don't see it as a boost
split socket
sirens appears right off the bat
well now u can use roon too
and be able to protect ur entire vg a lil bit
that's like permashield if enemy don't break it in time lmao
that's too broken, u could use her to lvl up lvl 1 ships in higher worlds
imo they don't even deserve a buff in the first place (except for izumo)
zenith tundra
izumo buff is actually pretty good but she needed it the most
idk how they even thought about putting a wide area barrage ap in the 1st place considering it did 30% dmg vs light armor
vague token
see, that assumes they think about the balance
they probably just wanted it to pierce
and cover even more targets
zenith tundra
guess some ships have to suck but it's not like who choose her barrage didn't know ap being trash against light
vague token
clearly there will be a stage where you'll be flooded with medium armor enemies
and they're everywhere all lined up
so her barrage will just go through everything
xD
ionic magnet
dang PR getting delayed
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yeah 
ionic magnet
means i also have to delay affection farming for my hms
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xD
craggy cove
Up to rank 5 on lex, back to trying to get Nagato to 100, FeelsLazyMan
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modern tree
that's kinda how it goes when you miss a game, actually, lawl
everyone who missed a game is like FUCK IT and just spams games
I wish I could fight
this is the only leveled fleet on my list right now
split socket
I took off my def team and put bulin so ppl can't farm exp
modern tree
I have maxed Nakaga Hiryuu cuz fuck people, and if I inspire at least one person a day to fucking step it the fuck up, I am doing my part
cuz I am honestly tired of casuals ruining the only mode where you can fight against someone that can kick your ass
cuz it gives points that cant be used for shit
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purins tho
modern tree
you can see on this screen, I have only 100k
split socket
you will if ur leveling ur entire fleet 
modern tree
I also have 15 purins
I have no idea what are you doing with those
but I can't fucking get rid of them
split socket
if ur sitting on 15 purins then ur not lvling ur low lvl ships enough lol
this is exactly why I wish fleet technology would apply to pvp
too many ppl just builds 1-2 fleet and becomes content and slacks on everything else
modern tree
oh yeah, my 21 ships at 110 is 1-2 fleets lmao
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I'd like to see the rest
modern tree
I will stitch together a screenshot for you then c:
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lol
hot creek
i decided to stop needlessly awakening any more ships atm. saving chips for 120 now.
modern tree
I am too fucking lazy to keep going, you get the idea
a lot of them have exp on them, like jintsuu and ayanami, but I dont really need them to be awakened right the fuck now
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owo
modern tree
1-2 fleets my ass
modern tree
I dont really enjoy grinding to a 100 because 2% more damage dealt and less taken is redundant for most content either way
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just counted mine and I have 53 ships above lv 100
modern tree
thats neat
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5 at 99 and 4 at 98
shy hazel
my 100s will only go up after pr is here lul
modern tree
I have 60
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almost all other ships are at 80-90
grave gale
I have like 14 110s and 60 100s
modern tree
I bet I could do more if I didnt have a job that eats all my fucking time
I just want to bump ships into eachother
modern tree
speaking of which, its past midnight, I am off
grave gale
I don't really go out of my way to raise stuff unless I think it's good, people praise it or it has a retrofit
grave gale
Letting advice pick whatever for the 1.2k commission has caused everybody to be above level 61. It's pretty easy to pick those 61s and take them 80 or so for their retrofit
modern tree
Only rf I am missing atm is the german ship I cant spell the name of because I remember scrapping a mlb one for dock space many months ago, before I knew how to buy gems in this game despite google play rejecting my card for no reason
split socket
you literally got to train everyone with fleet tech
modern tree
I think I have a head start for fleet tech tbh
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not like I needed the incentive anyway cause that was my goal from the get go
shy hazel
well looking at cn data, the buffs are still ignorable for now
modern tree
and I am also not too bothered with fleet tech because pve doesnt fucking need to be even easier
split socket
if ur leading so much, see u on fleet power board ;D
modern tree
if I can do 6 fights on toughest hard mode event map with 1:1 using rare ships. somethingis wrong
also
I am not having another conversation about wallet waving leaderboard
grave gale
I can't wait to see exactly how tech points I have for each nation.
modern tree
see you in pvp top 10 nerd
shy hazel
etherstar should be the highest here
split socket
u can think its wallet waving board cause u don't know how it works lol
shy hazel
hes top 3 in avrora
vague token
i cant believe daxam is pvp toxic jk
shy hazel
lol
grave gale
Then people can really flex in #trophy-room
modern tree
my all talk got Nagato to 110 within first week of the event and you are using bulins in your def fleet "to deny people exp" and not at all because you dont have shit
split socket
can't deny that, I got nagato 2 days late and didn't even bother racing with u lot
but bulin was indeed for exp denying
also I like how agitated u are when u can't find ppl to fight against so that's another plus if u get me on ur list
modern tree
Tomorrow I will put all my leveled equpment on the ships in my dock to so I can pop up in fleet power top 100, take a screenshot of it, shove it up your ass and then go back to not giving a shit about keeping ships I dont use equipped
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yikes
shy hazel
?fleetpower
hidden wyvernBOT
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we have unleashed the beast
hot creek
wait why are we caring about fleet power all of a sudden.
split socket
cause I'm poking fun of him xD
ionic magnet
i will never care about fleet power
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hes too prideful to let it slide so he'll pass me
modern tree
we dont, Tobi here has to justify purchasing nearly 400 dock space and spending most of his coins on trash equops so he can be in top 10 fleet
and then pretends I should care about it because it is not about the dock space to hold this garbage
its about having a good leveling strategy of running 1200 oil coms
lmao
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o.O
hot creek
go play lagfruit, he got a good fleet
split socket
fyi, I don't even run dupes, my dock space is cause I was getting sick of having to enhance ship all the time
grave gale
fleet power is silly. You have to unequip all the whites from every ship you own and toss on whatever gold/purple you don't use to inflate the ranking.
split socket
if I ran dupes I'd be top 1 rn lol
shy hazel
i can always boost my power
but why bother
have tons of gold gears that stays unequipped
lol
modern tree
man, remember the sandiest of sandy fleets I posted earlier? his Enterprise was holding a pearl too. Take me off this ride
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I mean, if ur lazy...
shy hazel
kill him off neko
my hiryuu still 103
farming sg radars lol
4 more and i have another
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emulators
ionic magnet
rng is so beautiful
i got 1 freaking sg radar bp in about 100 6-1 runs
then got 6 pcs in the next 10 runs
shy hazel
i just started ytd
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I'll never forget vdyr giving me 13 comet bp and 2 ryuusei
shy hazel
i alrdy have 11
from 0
lol
grinding sirius with hiryuu anyways
its so funny
when u go to a ? node before boss
and a treasure ship blocks the way to the boss
shy hazel
what about friedrice
ionic magnet
what are her skills
violet comet
ionic magnet
oh shes in wiki already
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Yaah
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i want off that wild ride of alternating effects
like wasnt roon silly enough with ammo swap
reee
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160
violet comet
I still need to learn
shy hazel
friedrice case
shy hazel
gear efficiencies
ionic magnet
hmm she looks good in pvp to me
violet comet
Yah ty, Im still lost
shy hazel
its not in the wiki yet
ionic magnet
at least shes viable
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ill stick with georgia, fullish screen warspite crit barrage xD
violet comet
And iunno, with how much she has going on she cant be bad at pvp, right?
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oh georgia actually shows 165 mg efficiency
on wiki
big if true
because she gets spread reduction
ionic magnet
she cant be bad with that 40% bonus dmg on first salvo
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georgia is the one with heterochromia and a blue triangle
ionic magnet
oh i meant 20% dmg and 20% fp
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wait what are these data mined stats lol
violet comet
But defo usable
shy hazel
looks like a loss
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looks like a win to me? unless enemy vg alive, 5s invuln should be enough for ur planes to bomb and kamikaze the crap outta low hp kaga and nagamon
how did it turn out? or did u reset
dry socket
That seems like a win
it should take ~3 seconds for the planes to drop all their contents
and if that somehow doesn't take care of2 <20% HP units, the touchdown at 4s will
as long as you're certain you have ~5s left on the damage invulnerability
then you would have been safe
a near guarentee whee
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definitely so
elder crane
Lol at planes being reliably shot down in PvP
Which makes one of her skills basically useless
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^
lime rivet
@real notch if you're still waiting, i'm 0/10
elder crane
Especially as CNJP now has the 100/150 equipment, the upgrade on the Drop tank, which buffs plane speed
So AA is even weaker there
lime rivet
And gonna rush again next cycle in an hour
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2nd wave PR ship
elder crane
@balmy torrent imo that looks like a win, a Hiryuu strike with vanguard dead can easily finish off the main fleet shown there
Unless there's enemy vanguard still alive ofc
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super cruiser
elder crane
It's funny sometimes with Hiryuu, the match looks super close but due to Hiryuu invul it's actually not close at all
grave gale
Getting carried by Hiryuu
violet comet
Its cool how Azuma gets a bonus with a single gun
elder crane
They don't want to repeat the D-Land class debacle I suppose
Learned from their mistakes
Gives unique 283
Adjusts barrage to match slow reload of 283
No one uses 283 cause they want to proc that EX barrage
trim horizon
How would Georgia perform in PvP with WaSD, since she doesn't offer any buff to the team 
violet comet
@elder crane wym 283
grave gale
I fear what pvp will become with fdg unleashed.
elder crane
Dland class can mount the short 283, unique equip for them
shy hazel
official said pr2 will take long for en
elder crane
the short 283 works like azuma gun
violet comet
Hm
shy hazel
he said itll depend on how fast ppl can do pr1
elder crane
but it's very much not the best option on D-Land class
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lol nope
elder crane
Don't lead with jun vs Nakaga
grave gale
If the numbers are accurate she literally has 4 times the dps of Tirpitz. I imagine she'd just one shot anybody.
elder crane
It's bel/jun/ykkz or bel/ykkz/jun
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just don't put her front, ez
elder crane
Bel can usually tank all but the absolute worst torpRNG, so she reliably makes it to her smoke
After her smoke, she can die, not really needed anymore
Jun needs to survive first strike for max value
And ofc ykkz you want to be the last one alive
Yeah, true, on offense with Bel, 110 Juneau can usually survive 1st Nakaga strike leading the team
But there's still risk with torpRNG, so usually not having her lead is better
bitter escarp
I havenโt run into any nakaga on lex yet for some reason, damn lex players so slow 
elder crane
I missed 4 matches on the 2nd reset, so all the teams down here are trash
Let me test my NamagiH, I even have it almost maxed (missing a few affection points)
elder crane
and that AA gun too...
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oh
violet comet
Kitakaze's skill looks so cool oml
bitter escarp
Kitakaze is gonna be very stronk for sure
elder crane
Yeah, the torp spam on her is unreal
Her EX is a fricken wall of torps
elder crane
And she ofc has that torp skill
533 on her for maximum torpmemes
violet comet
In the very back?
elder crane
Yep
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Plus she also will deal consistant dmg
elder crane
Seattle gets the dred as trailing VG ship
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Ignoring armor
bitter escarp
What if you only have 2 vanguards, will Seattle in the back still get her damage reduc
elder crane
Now that's something to be tested
Hmm, and what if she's the only ship
Based on that feels like it should not apply? But who knows
violet comet
Anyway, yh, PR2 ships look so fun
elder crane
I suppose it won't be lost if ships sink though
So it'd make sense for it to apply without full vanguard from that
Basically I'm back to square one, no idea
violet comet
They did well
bitter escarp
Now we just await for them to come to EN in about 50 years or so
elder crane
Oh damn, CN wiki says Seattle can equip two CL guns, with the primary one having MGM+1
Triple CL gun spam?
elder crane
If the third gun has normal secondary efficiency though, might not worth mounting sadly
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or w/e
elder crane
She already has MGM+1 in her primary slot, so technically it's her third gun
Will be interesting to see the efficiency on that weapon, that I think will be the main decider
Hmm, datamine says 65%, would that be for whatever is mounted there?
Bunny X Cat?
grave gale
Gonna ignore the elephant in the room that is fdg? nearly 10k hp, 160% main gun eff and has skills that boost damage and lower damage received
3rd skill: When an odd number of salvos are fired, increase reload by 50%, damage by 20%, even number of salvos increase crit rate by 20% and crit damage by 50%, buffs last until next salvo is fired.
4th skill: In battle, when health is between 70~100%, damage increased by 20%, when between 30~70%, damage increases by 10%, damage taken decreases by 10%, when lower than 30%, damage decreased by 20%```FDG gets her own tier, comparing her to anything else is unfair
bitter escarp
Georgia only has mgm +1 though
grave gale
How is anyone supposed to compete against her without owning her yourself?
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i feel like when you have 80% chance to 100% crit multiple backliners
mgm isnt going to matter
or aoe the front
bitter escarp
It kinda does when you try to compare yourself to FDG, as good as Georgia is FDG just slaughters every competitor
elder crane
Idk about that
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i dunno, you have to hit to do those damage skills
and she doesnt have anything to help with that
same problem as dork
bitter escarp
Preliminary dps calcs show that Georgia does indeed have very high dps, almost half of FdGโs
So take it as you will
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yeah and did they try to hit pvp vanguard with that dps? xD
elder crane
FdG's barrage doesn't always fire off cooldown, and the spread is big7 levels of wide
Main gun DpS doesn't lie much though, and FdG has tons of that too
bitter escarp
Oh I forgot this was the pvp channel
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top kek
bitter escarp
Yโall do that then
elder crane
Gerogia having a targeted barrage though is super nice
Hopefully it prioritizes Main fleet
elder crane
If Georgia's barrage can target vanguard, it'll be pretty trash though, unless it's fast enough to hit vanguard
bitter escarp
If it prioritizes main fleet she could be a Warspite 2.0
vague token
well, lemme watch the video again
elder crane
Based on demo delay time though, it seems like it's too slow, though testing first ofc
bitter escarp
It seemed to target whatever Georgiaโs salvo targets first from what Iโve seen
But that could just be coincidence
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the he/normal pellets look like a general area
the AP shots looked aimed
so maybe it's a 2 part?
bitter escarp
So are yโall thinking of WasdGeorgia or somethin
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lol no
elder crane
Someone else said they saw the SHS part even split itself, though I did not see that myself
dry socket
Hiryuu-FdG-Warspite could work well
double sniper with a counter to snipers if necessary
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georgia doesnt synergize with those 2
elder crane
WaSD I'm not sure the the best option though
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i mean yeah it's a flex slot but wasd is about tanking
and amagi is the natural enhancer of that comp
elder crane
Feels like we might have come full circle to running "just good ships" comps with PR2
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i mean
ws kai is literally that
ws kai + whoever 2 that pairs well
ws kai foxes? gotta farm fast
ws kai namagi? consistent
ws kai hiryuu x? reset free
etc etc
elder crane
Yeah, but now we have even more ships that are so independently good that it might not worth running synergies over
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at least until the eagles get a leader
shy hazel
lul
elder crane
Wskai Georgia FdG meta, maybe?
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in which case game devolves into nightmare mode
xD
id rather do amagi wskai georgia or amagi wskai fdg
simply because bulk boost
shy hazel
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georgia probably has crazy AA since she's after the sodak class