pvp

[leaden sequoia]

@odd schooner ^

[shy hazel]

anyways

champ this season is famine again

[loud otter]

whats meta frontline in pvp?

[shy hazel]

see u around ppl im gonna celebrate with beer

[trail elm]

yuki + juneau + someone, i think

[zenith tundra]

depends on ur backlines @loud otter

[trail elm]

with pr louis coming, juneau + yuki + louis is probably going to be dominant

[zenith tundra]

yukikaze juneasu is good overall but u might want something more offensive with amakaga/nakaga

[leaden sequoia]

right now ykkz is present in all metas, I think

she's that broken

the other two are debatable

[blazing scroll]

I don't know about Louis yet

Because she needs to fully upgraded

And she can't be lvl 120 yet

[trail elm]

i don't run akaga comps. as for juneau, as long as i survive the initial akaga strike, i can fight back

[zenith tundra]

pr won't be maxed till 1 month at least from release and ca still need 120 to be good

[trail elm]

that's juneau's sole job 😄

that's fine, portland can stand in for louis. she's been standing in for a long ass time

[vague token]

portland just kills your damage though

gun efficiency is lacking xD

[leaden sequoia]

joke's on you, Jun is for killing planes as well

[zenith tundra]

with 0 luck and low evasion i don't think she can do that well

[trail elm]

damage is for backline double CV.

i'm told by someone from cn frontline damage will get just get more and more obsolete, with 110 and especially with 120 cap

[zenith tundra]

i wouldn't assume w12 is right after research but i don't think it's that far off

[vague token]

uh, saint louis damage is a beast with her efficiency and 35% he boost

cant light armor that xD

[trail elm]

it was a comment on the decline of the torp frontline

[leaden sequoia]

I guess it's obsolete vs backline as ppl switch to beefy BBs with CL secondaries

but not vs frontline

[trail elm]

i forgot to save his comment. i wish i did

[vague token]

torp wont be important with namagi since you arent rushing for a wipe

you want sustain more on those 32

2*

[odd schooner]

@zenith tundra ye i forgot flare affects any ship

Easier for shells to not miss when sendai pushes through main fleet

[ionic magnet]

@shy hazel this trihard really made top 5

[odd schooner]

@ionic magnet top 5 when

[ionic magnet]

this last season

[zenith tundra]

are u leveling up sendai flare?

mine is still lvl 1

[odd schooner]

My sendai already max skill few weeks now

Just lazy to use cause not oathed

[zenith tundra]

oh lol i never bothered

10 sec flare was all i cared for

[odd schooner]

My dock is weird

Either 100+ oathed or 100+ stranger

No one in between

[leaden sequoia]

sounds fine to me

it's either meta so you oath, or not and don't care at all

[zenith tundra]

i have 27 ships lvl 100 and up with love affinity

[leaden sequoia]

so few

[zenith tundra]

only those with heart

without oaths or non 100 affinity

[leaden sequoia]

ah, that makes sense then

[zenith tundra]

the ones "in between"

[real notch]

louis should definitely be good enough to run at 110

with her speedboost she's basically an improved CL

[vague token]

she's portland kai with damage

xD

instead of a tickle gun

[real notch]

ok doing new testing with nakaga...

[zenith tundra]

u use her for dmg i would guess since at 110 she's far from tank

[leaden sequoia]

as Zack repeatedly says, the issue is 0 luck

[vague token]

i mean with beaver and max skill she'd still have crazy high evade

[leaden sequoia]

which for CA at 110 is detrimenal

[real notch]

previous VG sendai aurora jintsuu proven to be wayy too squishy - i've done around 20 tests with 3 different amakagas and the VGs basically double suicide

i've also tested 2x oxytorp, but YKKZ with oxy is too risky cus she'll die more often on defense

now i'm using 1x oxy - on jintsuu

[leaden sequoia]

suicide vg that is not meant to be suicide, heh

[zenith tundra]

ur using oxys and complaining about ships dying...

[real notch]

no, i tested oxys with new fleet

old fleet had only 1 oxy on jintsuu

[blazing scroll]

Honestly I have given up on torp vanguard

[zenith tundra]

i'm glad namaryuu doesn't care about vg that much

[odd schooner]

Gonna try this one out

[real notch]

and if you don't run oxy with jintsuu sendai idk wat ur doin...

[odd schooner]

• boilers

[real notch]

that might work better

jintsuu effectively has like 3k HP

and sirius has like 3.3?

[odd schooner]

Offtank Sirius can live on airstrike

[real notch]

so she's more reliably tanky

[odd schooner]

Not sure how she'll do in front

[real notch]

she shouldn't instadie i'm pretty sure

[vague token]

wait

[real notch]

i've tested against defense sirius before

[vague token]

based on the evasion formula

is the luck difference really that big?

[zenith tundra]

i could try this (low fleet power because of equips)

[odd schooner]

Sendai and aurora has 2.5k+ hp lmao

[vague token]

it gets divided by 1000

lol

[odd schooner]

Yes luck is bicc

[real notch]

yea zack that's basically gurren's fleet

[zenith tundra]

mine are actually leveled

[leaden sequoia]

luck also contributes to crit rate

[vague token]

attacker luck - defender luck all over 1000

you sure about that hit rate contribution?

xD

[real notch]

also why not fuck it and just do belfast juneau YKKZ with nakaga

[vague token]

like

[zenith tundra]

u need a debuffer imo

for nakaga

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

switch belfast for aurora

[leaden sequoia]

I mean, sure, luck is only present in hit rate and crit rate formulas

[vague token]

it's like only 1% hit rate per 10 luck difference

against amagi that's 2% hit rate

nagato is 7

doesnt seem like a big deal

[sharp obsidian]

There is a rumor that Luck also affects Proc Rate

[zenith tundra]

since enemy luck is present in hit formula is like an evasion buff

[vague token]

yeah, 1% hit rate per 10 points difference

like, the luckiest ship ykk is getting 9% hit rate vs saint louis

like, not really a deal breaker

[zenith tundra]

and yukikaze gets ~+9% evasion against st louis

[odd schooner]

I thought eva/hit is considered 1 point each on luck

[vague token]

according to the formula on wiki

take the difference

divide by 1000

that's the contribution

[leaden sequoia]

just remember that's for 0..1

for 0%..100% only divide by 10

[ionic magnet]

yea i dont trust that formula in wiki

[vague token]

xD

oh saint louis doesnt have accuracy on wiki

=/

[leaden sequoia]

there are a lot of ships with no acc stat actually

[vague token]

why is that still hidden again

xD

[odd schooner]

Mfw pr also 0 luck

[leaden sequoia]

I wanna rectify that with my script but it's not finished yet

[ionic magnet]

dont think ykkz will be tanky as hell just cos of a 1% more eva rate

[vague token]

ykk will have 9 more

vs saint louis

[odd schooner]

It does boost eHP

[vague token]

but that's w/e ca guns have a tough time vs destroyer xD

shoot all the cls instead ;)))

[ionic magnet]

saint louis has 0 luck tho

im talking abt current ships with luck

[odd schooner]

All pr ships

[leaden sequoia]

but muh fire damage not giving a shit about evasion

[ionic magnet]

meaning she gets less eva rate bonus from luck

[leaden sequoia]

and as a result about luck

[ionic magnet]

which is around 1% kek

[odd schooner]

Saint louis after 40s is just like port kai

From what i heard

[vague token]

well she turns into minne with more hp

basically

[zenith tundra]

after 40s the enemy vg should be dead

(if yukikaze dies)

[vague token]

or ykk says lol nope

either or

[zenith tundra]

and ur dealing with backlines

[vague token]

xD

[odd schooner]

I mean most effective ship that can survive in 40s is prolly ykkz

[ionic magnet]

eugen also maybe

[leaden sequoia]

chinawall

[vague token]

yeah saint louis's hit rate against ykk is pretty bad

regardless of the luck

like, 36 vs 45

is bad either way

[zenith tundra]

nothing better to test against... let'e see how much printz lasts against nakaga sirus aurora sendai

[vague token]

like if she has an accuracy around portlands that is

107 at 100

dunno what it would be at 110 xD

wouldnt go up much though i imagine

[ionic magnet]

eugen with belfast

[zenith tundra]

nagato cleared vg

[vague token]

lol

[zenith tundra]

...for sure bad equip so

[odd schooner]

Lmao

[vague token]

oof

[zenith tundra]

3/3

[vague token]

padded fleet power maybe? xD

[zenith tundra]

need actual comps to test

[ionic magnet]

13.6k yea most likely

[zenith tundra]

it still is a clear trough belfast smoke (if it's leveled up)

and nagato yellow skill is only 6

[cosmic iron]

Is the Oath stat buff actually any noticable?

[coral wren]

not really.

only time I noticed it was using oathed ships vs other ppls non oathed ships and I can fill a stats requirement just by slightly having little bit more stats

[odd schooner]

I never made a reset vs non oathed bis fleets before

If that counts

[hot creek]

full oath gives a signifigant amount of HP

[odd schooner]

Ye

[vague token]

ws kai gets quite a bit of hp

xD

[zenith tundra]

nagato has more hp then ws kai

izumo highest hp pool

[odd schooner]

ws kai highest vanilla stats again

[shy hazel]

mama monarch with ws kai

lets show them hms dominance soon

[lime rivet]

[Heart of Oak intensifes]

[shy hazel]

too bad namagi with ws kai is supposed to be better than hms

[zenith tundra]

wabbits for the win

[ionic magnet]

you wont notice oath stat buff 99% of the time

but it makes the portrait look good so why not

[lime rivet]

Also you can custom name your ships into silly messages in pvp

[shy hazel]

i dont look scary when my pvp fleet isnt fully oathed

[ionic magnet]

oath skins too xD

[zenith tundra]

what defense fleet looks scary?

[real notch]

i remember when a custom fleet name in PVP was some hentai tag

[zenith tundra]

can u be banned for that?

[blazing scroll]

I think it depends on what it says

Dunno for sure

[real notch]

alright guys

i forgot i had 383 purple sakura boxes

so i rolled myself a purple zuiun

now i can run namagi hyuuga

oh is it good

i wanna test it vs namagi hiryuu

i think zack was on that test too

[zenith tundra]

test it against nakaga

[real notch]

well ok test it against my nakaga then

i'm currently on nakaga

[zenith tundra]

i have nakaga too

if i even find u

[real notch]

w e l l

i am the most e l u s i v e player

if you find me you will guarantee win the lottery the next day

[zenith tundra]

tbh haven't found anyone last season

the only one i tried against a bit was vysaga

[real notch]

btw what's hyuugakai's confirmed effective AA stat?

not confirmable?

like 350 AA + whatever seaplanes are flying around

[zenith tundra]

the launch speed is terrible lol

even max oath is 28.6 sec

what does even happen at that time

[coral wren]

is it worth to awaken foxes?... I have never really been a fan of double CVs just wondering how useful they will be later on

I like hiryuu and souryuu alot more. and I hope they will overtake foxes when kai comes

[zenith tundra]

if u have other options u can use something different but nakaga seems pretty strong

[coral wren]

I just feel like nagatos CV boost is kinda wasted when using with amagi and hiryuu

but its my favorite comp so far

[real notch]

foxes will never be replaced

[coral wren]

because 800 chips to awaken them. is kinda yikes

[zenith tundra]

namaryuu should be fine. i rushed end season pvp and wasn't even close to lose actually with lvl 108 nagato and not maxed skills

[real notch]

there are no other CVs that 2x launch at 13 seconds

and speed is like #1 stat in PVP

rabbits will be competitors to foxes but never replace them

BUT, foxes will be less prevalent in the future

and if you have amagi / nagato, then all you need is hiryuu kai

you don't need to cap foxes

(though i doubt chips will be a problem to you at that time)

[coral wren]

yeah the thingy is I am kinda jew. doing pvp on 110 ships = wasting potential exp. and my amagi and hiryu are both 110 so I was think maybe I should uncap foxes

[real notch]

yea sure why not, having 110 foxes is not a bad choice

especially currently, with nagato release, nakaga will be a thing for a while

[zenith tundra]

if u don't plan on using akaga for pvp then forget them till w13

[real notch]

at least until meta settles down into either namagi or nakaga

[coral wren]

both my foxes are 200 aff tho. spent alot of time grinding that shit

feelsbadman

ok ty

I will swap around abit every now and then and get some free exp

[zenith tundra]

i had max amakaga lvl 110 as soon as i could and dropped them for what ended up being amagi hiryuu baga till nagato

[coral wren]

after using hiryuu. pvp just dosnt feel the same

winrate skyrocketed

[zenith tundra]

she's that good

[coral wren]

yea

[zenith tundra]

immagine hiryuu kai

[coral wren]

cant wait

xd

[zenith tundra]

she soacks dmg for 15s and has good dmg with her extra airstrike

[coral wren]

is double boiler on Jesus a CN thingy?

[zenith tundra]

i wouldn't use 2 boilers it ends up being too squishy vs torp

[coral wren]

because jesus's staying power is too stronk at 110

[shy hazel]

my nagato still 100

[zenith tundra]

just put her tank

[real notch]

yea

[coral wren]

xxD

aite

[real notch]

and you know how JP servers run ryuusei on hiryuu

because when she procs undying the enemy VG is usually dead

so you can usually reliably shoot torps with 100% accuracy

[coral wren]

airstrike + final counter

oh boy

its so sexy

is this bad?

[real notch]

i'm not sure if u guys are running ryuusei but

[coral wren]

or maybe toolbox + fire extisnguisher instead

[real notch]

i'll do a test once my nagato is 110

with lv 10 yellow

[ionic magnet]

not bad at all

[zenith tundra]

i use boiler + fe and it's great

[coral wren]

oki

[real notch]

that's good

[coral wren]

I have been following some CN guides

[real notch]

i personally use tookit x boiler but ye

[coral wren]

since I can read chinese -.-

xD

[zenith tundra]

if nakaga becomes meta box might be better then fe but all i fought end season are wasda

[coral wren]

OH

in washington. its all makaga

amakaga still

[zenith tundra]

top players in avrora use wasda for stalling

[coral wren]

atm I am using Jesus YKK and belfast in this order. should I put something else in instead of belfast or is she good since alot of foxes I am facing

[zenith tundra]

1 problem i had with juneau off tank is that she doesn't die

and belfast in nice to delay a bit vg wipe from foxes

[real notch]

i recommend using belfast, jesus, YKKZ in that order

jesus in tank slot will get melted by amakaga fleets

[coral wren]

but she wont die

she is like stubborn af

[real notch]

naw she definitely will dw

[zenith tundra]

i think that might work against nakaga tbh

[coral wren]

she dies after my nagato dies

[real notch]

oh.... yeah nagato is kinda squishy

[coral wren]

xD

[zenith tundra]

what lvl is ur nagato

[ionic magnet]

just adjust gears with jesus

[real notch]

get her to 110 though

[coral wren]

102

[real notch]

it will help

[coral wren]

yea

I will max my fleet first.

[ionic magnet]

jesus can p much work in any position

just adjust gears np

[zenith tundra]

at 108 already my nagato started not suffering from foxes comps that much

[ionic magnet]

oof

[coral wren]

time to lvl faster

ty goys

[zenith tundra]

what did u fight that u lost vg?

[ionic magnet]

i'll just level my hms next i guess

noone to level anymore

[zenith tundra]

oh that

once i'm done with nagato ring time to prepare for roon

[coral wren]

prepare for me UWU

xD

[zenith tundra]

lol

[ionic magnet]

lol

[zenith tundra]

still have 4k in event shop

i don't think i saw that from the beginning

[ionic magnet]

mm ill claim those when they release PR

[shy hazel]

where u even farm lvls

d2 still?

[zenith tundra]

my hiryuu and amagi have 900k already

still going for event pts

[shy hazel]

so lazy to farm nugget

[zenith tundra]

just got to 25k

[shy hazel]

still 16k

ima try phx nugget later

gimme full build

[real notch]

RELATABLE LOL

i'm at like 400 oil

the end is near

[zenith tundra]

i played 6/24hr 1st day so i'm behind

[shy hazel]

lemme check my phx

perfect

my phx only 105

[coral wren]

are u guyts saving exam oils or using them

[shy hazel]

my mahans are low leveed lol

nope

saving them for french botes

[coral wren]

ah yes

I used hard cus I didnt know u can unlock exam

REEE

[zenith tundra]

i used hard because i needed it to level up stuff to 110

[real notch]

alright GG i was actually at 40 oil not 400

i'm in zack's boat now

[hybrid tendon]

no kwkz

😦

[coral wren]

quackz

[zenith tundra]

i brought oil

from even shop

[real notch]

hit the jackpot boys 0 oil baby

[zenith tundra]

lol

isn't that kind of expensive? u can level them separately and have both of them mvp for extra xp

u get 2x oath for mvp

[trim horizon]

uh... I just got into PvP like the last season but, is this normal ? http://prntscr.com/nc5wvx

I guess is not

[Sandy server btw]

[ionic magnet]

o my lord

when will this end

thing is, we'll never know who else got extra charges

and devs shouldve fixed this

[zenith tundra]

just thinking that we got 10/10 at reset

if u didn't do the 5 before

might actually have worked for next season

[jovial sedge]

Again people got addition resets?

[zenith tundra]

so it seems

[jovial sedge]

Ffs

I mean what the fuck is so hard on fixing that

[empty sinew]

day 1 ensign

wonder what his timezone is

[jovial sedge]

I just like hey I got 5 tries ok no point to rush it... do 2 fights looks on score first guy is 225score me 50

[zenith tundra]

i think the bug is weird

[jovial sedge]

Srsly

[empty sinew]

pvp was probably an afterthought feature from the start

[real notch]

wait nani

really lol

i started with 5/10

[zenith tundra]

if u logged in before daily reset it showed 10/10

u couldn't use past 5/10 but if u had charges from before it might have actually been possible to do all 10

like not properly resetting at new season and showing 10/10

[real notch]

is that avrora?

ladder looks fine to me

owo

[shy hazel]

no one cares about sandy server

but lets report anyways

pretty sure itll be a good challenge for phx instead

[hollow dawn]

140 score for 5 tries is normal, right?

If yes - a single person on a single server having higher score is most likely a hacker and not "game is broken again" lol

[shy hazel]

dunno maybe also a bug just gotta wait and see

its sandy only and one player only

for now👀

[hollow dawn]

Report the player instead via the bot

[shy hazel]

@trim horizon

report

[trim horizon]

in #bot-spam right ?

[shy hazel]

ask restart chan

[hollow dawn]

DM @snow gyro with !feedback

and chose Report a Player

[shy hazel]

about reporting players

did someone report the

top 1 in ex mode avrora

cos is very fishy

[hollow dawn]

don't think so

if they did - not via the bot

[shy hazel]

ingame bot report?

[hollow dawn]

no, Belfast

[violet comet]

Yey I got Nagato, ready to go full meta now

[shy hazel]

oh its dm

[trim horizon]

aight, done

[shy hazel]

i think highest i saw with 5 is 160

theres also the possibility that its a hacker but well

its actually my first time

seeing a guy hack pvp resets

if this i proven

[stark raft]

who even knows at this point

they dont give a fuck

[shy hazel]

hey

that reset they made gave me faith

👀

a little bit

[stark raft]

idk how just changing timezone fucks it up so much

[shy hazel]

do u know y2k bug

when time setting breaks old programs

[stark raft]

game is on unity with spaghetti code?

[shy hazel]

al is something like that

fragile

[stark raft]

y2k was over a decade ago

we're living in the future with ship waifus

[shy hazel]

changing time fks up alot of code

they say

👀

dst is a mistake

[delicate bridge]

the #1 dude's score is fishy

[shy hazel]

reported

outsandbag him

[trail elm]

that's accounting for the 10/10 tries some players had, right?

[shy hazel]

rather than some

its only him

for now

[trail elm]

ok

[shy hazel]

surely thats more than 5/10

[delicate bridge]

yeah, no way he can get 200+ pts with only 5 attacks

[stark raft]

highest in washington is 2 ppl with 140

[shy hazel]

and so is avrora

[trail elm]

some people were able to abuse 10 tries during a momentary lapse so i think 140 is the upper limit.

if we consider that a lot of the top have that

[shy hazel]

140 is realistic for 5/10

[trim horizon]

[trail elm]

oh nvm

i'll check my score

[shy hazel]

syanda tested if u can bug 10/10

but he was only able to do 5

[trail elm]

yeah same. my screen said 10/10 but i was only allowed five tries then it wouldn't let me challenge anymore despite the screen saying 5/10

[shy hazel]

for now ill observe avrora scores

👀

[trail elm]

i only have 125 😩

[stark raft]

only 123, im a weak boi

[shy hazel]

sandbag more

[stark raft]

im using hms with only 1 gold sg

i have bigger problems than sandbag

[trail elm]

i have only 1 gold sg too. hang in there, we'll get some more

[shy hazel]

i farmed 3 gold sg in 6-1

for a week and a half

[trail elm]

then again, i only have one bc for backline, amagi

[stark raft]

1 month only 1 gold sg

[trail elm]

try 3 months 😄

[stark raft]

I have so much gold AA though, silly US boxes

[trail elm]

i've been spamming 7-2 first though, not 6-1 sadly. need that gold roomba

all my best AA guns are 6x german twin gold aa gun and 2x gold quad bofors

[shy hazel]

so far i dont need to farm any gear anymore

pr coming so gotta farm 7-2

[trail elm]

need that sweet sweet french gun yes. iris please

[shy hazel]

eternally

u hvae more bofors

i have more ufos

same skcs

same lol

crazy ce

wish nagato event had good bp too

but all crap

[stark raft]

I started halfway in CE lol

just glad i got amagi

haven't missed a meta ship yet

[shy hazel]

youre wrong

u dont have wash

[stark raft]

it's my server, she'll always be inside of us

jk, i want her for the wasd memes and that high fcr too

[trail elm]

that and the gold corsair. i want them

[coral wren]

I might not get nagato this event, lol. 80 cubes left. Spent 120 already

Hms for life. A miserable one.

[violet comet]

now i need to farm the SGs

sigh

and the 610mm from C4

[stark raft]

Desire sensor at work

I wanted fumizuki for memes and got nuggeto

[hybrid tendon]

20k points

[left onyx]

i think i might just say screw pvp for the next 2 seasons

[hybrid tendon]

no kwkz

[coral wren]

i also dont have a fumizuki

is this guy sandbagging like a god

Git gud

He is 200 iq

he got like 44 points per win

i got 32 for one

Only 44

I get 55 per win

[violet comet]

55? what, couldn't get 14 more?

[coral wren]

ok so he did get lucky

nobody ever does pvp in sandy so he just got the lucky dice

Yea

i didnt know how much you can sandbag early on

They fixed the bug

how many bonus points can you get

He just have good luck

[violet comet]

i still have no idea how to climb ranks

i just do it and pray lol

[coral wren]

since base score is 28

he got like +12 or more

from each pvp

Ez

Just get some luck

And hope for the best

And voila ez

[violet comet]

just get lucky loool

[coral wren]

good advice

U welcome. Thats how ez pvp is

[analog hare]

wich gear you guys use for Hiryuu ?

[coral wren]

just get top 10 pvp 4Head

i mean it isnt hard i already did it anyway

just wondering if +12 bonus points is normal

[split socket]

that score is impossible on 1st reset

[coral wren]

but he got it

He is just that much better at sandbagging

[split socket]

somehow its bugged again idk

[coral wren]

nobody has any concrete shit on sandbagging

Haters be like thats impossible

post your score

instead of shitposting

[split socket]

not sure if ur being sarcastic or not lol

[coral wren]

I am unlucky sandbagger

Still no movement in my list

you mean just bad

Yea

I am not good like tjat top guy

He is pro

more than 66% through reset

Yall just jelly cus u cant be good like him

i already got admiral of navy

So cool wow

thx

hehe me post edgy twitch maymays

U gotta be edgy if u wanna be a pvplord and post every ss u take when u get rank 1 for a couple mins

Thats how we roll boiiiis

its sandy server sit on number 1 for hours

only 10 people actually do pvp

= sandy

reposting emotes

[violet comet]

[coral wren]

Pvp is a great way to find good players

or find google gamers

I always add rank 1 ppl and ask them how they do it

[modest elbow]

[coral wren]

just git gud is the best advice i find

Na man u gotta be gifted

[violet comet]

as a true gamer

you gotta

rise up

[coral wren]

Just git gud aint enough

[violet comet]

right gamers?

[coral wren]

RISE UP

U gotta be born a gifted sandbagger

[violet comet]

(writing that thing hurt me physically)

[coral wren]

dont need to sandbag on sandy

Other babies born after 9 months. These gifted sandbag babies comes out after 18 months cus they wait another reset

sandbaggers on sandy need 27 months

Thats how u get gensui when u are a baby

sandbaggers take #1 on 5/10

on sandy

[violet comet]

Ace from one piece then was a true sandbagger

🤔

[coral wren]

Animes are gay

Dont talk that weeb stuff

Its a fictional character

u wot m8

[violet comet]

[trim horizon]

👀

[buoyant parrot]

we have 3 slot in the guild right now, if you're interested to join let me know :D

[split socket]

how do I join

[buoyant parrot]

NightRaven is the guild name

[split socket]

just kidding I'm on sandy

[buoyant parrot]

___<

[flint yarrow]

what's the go with pvp on sandy right now
why is the guy in number 1
100 points above everyone else

i thought we just reset

5 attacks and 224 hmmm

[coral wren]

i swear hes been at the top before

but only recently

if avrora cant get that high sandy certainly cant

yeah i came to ask about it before but all i got were shitposts

[trim horizon]

^discussed in upper convo

for now it seems that it's only on Sandy, and I've already reported this dood

[coral wren]

oh

[odd schooner]

Ye avrora only has 143

[grave gale]

we just aren't gud enuff

[coral wren]

he found out a strat better than sandbagging

maybe we can learn from him by observing

[modern tree]

I have played a little bit of Belfast Juneau Ykkz in this order and I am inclined to believe it is the best setup for tanky/stally comps like wasd Amagi and Namagi+1

[elder crane]

Thoughts on potentially subbing Sheffield in for Belfast?

I saw a proposal for that, and it seemed interesting

[modern tree]

I ran that in HMS for a while. It works on offense, but I think I'd be spooked of running that on defense

unless you dont really care about potentially walling foxes

it works decently well, Ykkz will actually never die

and will continuously just waste all the plane bombs while zooming across the screen, dejavu playing in the background

[elder crane]

Ah, the two ykkz arena fight

[modern tree]

defense might be a little tougher since shes gonna take a little more damage from bombs, if the rng is unkind

[elder crane]

Dancing with BB shells splashing all around, shooting popguns at each other

[modern tree]

leading cause of sinking for Ykkz: Fire, Ramming BBs for too long

[elder crane]

While the Main fleet ships cheer them on

I think she's also technically more vulnerable to torps
Though she's never in a situation where she could eat a lot of them

[modern tree]

best precaution against torps is putting 2 ships in front of her and making VG go FAST

cuz the ships up front end up eating all of them until both vgs are sank except for ykkz/s

[elder crane]

Yep, use other team members to torpsweep for you

[modern tree]

I have no remorse, more BOILERS

[zenith tundra]

so pr on the 26th guess i can just play the event without worries

[finite valve]

going to LMFAO if they add both 1 and 2 PR for EN

[zenith tundra]

what a chaos that would be

[violet comet]

i can't wait for pr 2

friedrich is bae

[zenith tundra]

i cant wait to farm for ships that are gonna sit in dock for months before being good

[violet comet]

but

you can have them as secretaries

[blazing scroll]

Don't we all

[zenith tundra]

if they were cuter then yukikaze maybe

[violet comet]

to me they are, but fair

in the end it'll be worth it

^

yh

[zenith tundra]

i like nothing about saint louis

[buoyant parrot]

this event's are none stop... I can't get a chance to Lv110 my purin

[violet comet]

imma rush monarch cause

thicc thighs

so much text

[zenith tundra]

and saint louis is good for mobs... then again why wold i waste 13 oil on a vg ship for mobs when u can use cheaper stuff

[violet comet]

maybe one likes her

and how she looks?

lol

[blazing scroll]

^

[violet comet]

i mean hard event maps with sirens

thats kinda helpful

[zenith tundra]

i dont think i need dps on vg ships considering that stuff just dies too fast already

vs sirens ibuki is better

[blazing scroll]

While being a CA

With high hp

[zenith tundra]

ok ok i get it everyone likes louis around here

[blazing scroll]

[violet comet]

BURN THE HERETIC

[blazing scroll]

Eventually I will be aiming to get a Saint Louis, Juneau, Sandy Kai VG

[violet comet]

ill prolly go for... idfk, juneau / aurora / saint

[zenith tundra]

sandy kai in a non cv meta...

[blazing scroll]

Foxes will always be used

[violet comet]

^

its like aggro decks in

card games

even if they're bad

people like fast wins

[blazing scroll]

Yup

[zenith tundra]

ok so lets build our teams against meme comps with sendai always there for the printz waifu

[odd schooner]

@modern tree i see you tried my vg order

[dry socket]

louis-juneau-yukikaze could be useful as well
damage-capable stallers

[odd schooner]

4 more lvls to max loligato

[zenith tundra]

louis tank im pretty sure would melt

[odd schooner]

I'm switching bel with sandy kai

[modern tree]

I mean, sure. I dont remember reading a single line about it but it's Gurren VG now

[odd schooner]

Nah, it's everyone's vg

[dry socket]

louis is able to tank—not efficiently, but definitely can do a decent job
Great evasion and a pool of HP is a good combo

[odd schooner]

Just that avrora usually on something like

Juneau ykkz Belfast/ Belfast ykkz juneau

Sumire uses latter

[modern tree]

Louis'ss skill is just long enough for pvp games to be about ending, so she's moderately broken.

[dry socket]

can take up to two airstrikes with her skill online

[modern tree]

I was using Juneau Belfast ykkz but I switched to see if Juneau will ever sink in time if shes second and she ends up sinking before Belfast often, which is strange to me but I am also okay with it

[blazing scroll]

I have the same happen sometimes

[zenith tundra]

she is medium armor and her evasion buff is partialy mitigatex by the lack of luck

great choice against torp

[odd schooner]

I think we also need the pr gun for her

[blazing scroll]

We need the pr wheels too

[odd schooner]

And the AAs

Mostly the AAs

It gives accuracy?

[zenith tundra]

wont pr equips be harder then ship bps to get?

[odd schooner]

Ppl said 1-2 months

But if we aris we lucksack 2-3 weeks

[zenith tundra]

which is more then 1 pr ship lol

[odd schooner]

Btw my wall will be gone now

[violet comet]

are all pr guns basically

usable in pvp?

[split socket]

how does the 203mm from core shop compare to the other pr ca guns?

[zenith tundra]

so weird to see ppl going from 4k to top 100 in 1 attempt

akagi 36k dmg in 2 airtstrikes lol against this

nakaga is scary

[bitter pulsar]

This is why u get sandy

Sandy will.murder any air that isnt lucky e in a single attack

[zenith tundra]

enty has less planes then akaga

[bitter pulsar]

But they aren't invincible like entys

[flint yarrow]

Enty dies to Akaga before she even gets a chance to use Lucky E

sooo

[lament lichen]

enty isnt invinicle all the times lul

[leaden sequoia]

aren't planes being invul patched out already?

like, they're not supposed to be invul to begin with

otherwise, there would be no counter to double damage kamikaze cudas except having a large HP pool

[zenith tundra]

there is nowhere that says planes should be invincible

[lament lichen]

they never were invul

[leaden sequoia]

guess I read wrong then

and that invincible != invulnerable

[trim horizon]

138.6mm best DD gun ?

[ripe veldt]

I'm still confused as to what I should move to next from Amagi Akaga jintsuu/aya/aurora

🤔

I don't really have issues killing the yukikaze/sirius fleets so i'm unsure if i want to change my frontline to that

and not sure how to change the backline to include nagato when shes pvp ready in another 4-5 days

[zenith tundra]

just switch to nakaga

[ripe veldt]

Should I keep the offensive frontline?

[zenith tundra]

namagi require investment in either hiryuu/hyuuga/kagabb

[ripe veldt]

kagaBB i'm not too far off from making usable

[zenith tundra]

go full offensive imo. aurora sendai sirius is a nice choice u can also go aurora yukikaze jintsuu/sendai

[ripe veldt]

i haven't even started on sendai grind yet

[vague token]

oof

[ripe veldt]

probably aurora/yukikaze/jintsuu

[zenith tundra]

i need testing opponents

[vague token]

good to invest in sendai since we getting the beefy pr CAs xD

[ripe veldt]

pearl tears on aurora cause i think she dies first in that fleet

[zenith tundra]

jintsuu tank aurora mid yukikaze off tank. jintsuu should be 1st to die

[ripe veldt]

would ibuki/izumo even fit in pvp

no idea how meta works

[grave gale]

you don't want the pearl holder to die too fast or the heal is wasted

[zenith tundra]

ibuki is a choice for juneau yuykikaze 3rd along with roon and saint louis (at least for me). i'm not sure about izumo people say her ap barrage is bad because of the wide spread and ends up hitting vg for no damage

[ripe veldt]

I wish pvp scoring wasn't so rng so i could test easier

[zenith tundra]

rng is part of pvp tho

[ripe veldt]

scoring not battle mb

[vague token]

pvp would be less rng if health was higher so over the long fight it normalizes

oh

[zenith tundra]

scoring in pvp is not rng

[ripe veldt]

people that time and get lucky with camping seem to get higher up with way weaker fleets

[vague token]

their defense fleet isnt necessarily what they use

[ripe veldt]

its still a little bit rng

[vague token]

btw

[ripe veldt]

oh

[zenith tundra]

u don't get top 10 end season by rng

[vague token]

it's separate

you can have ark royal and her destroyer horde on defense

and have meta namagi or amakaga or w/e

[zenith tundra]

it requires knowledge and patience

[ripe veldt]

yeah i know that

[zenith tundra]

and right time zone

[ripe veldt]

but then there are people with 105s akaga amagi and weird frontlines

[vague token]

xD

[ripe veldt]

i used to just spam all 5 but now learned you get more pts camping a bit here and there

and late season PVP is kinda RNG

you can get >+10 if you reroll 1-2nd place while at 50 cause point difference is like 40

[zenith tundra]

late game is where u need to know who rushes and refresh ur opponent list to get those ppl in ur list

[ripe veldt]

theres that too

[vague token]

it's still whack but it isnt rng

[zenith tundra]

even rng for opponents u get after an attempt tends to even out over the course of the season imo

finally a decent start for once +39 and +38

[vague token]

o.O

[zenith tundra]

got lucky

[vague token]

very nice xD

[odd schooner]

No one moving on my end

Fak +32

[real notch]

oxide is right, enty planes sometimes are invuln

this is a confirmed mechanic in at least JP client

[zenith tundra]

sometimes?

[real notch]

there's a history with this too, apparently CN had it patched but JP left it out

yeah, as in it's technically a bug

[zenith tundra]

let's go play cn

best client for sure

[real notch]

can't wait to use fletcher fleets

i haven't checked with any JP players lately, maybe the cloaked enty planes are patched

[modest elbow]

why not ask him

[vague token]

i got 33/31/25 and i gotta do the other 2 soon cause ill be busy

rip

[odd schooner]

He sleeping

I think we got same timezone

[craggy cove]

Ah thats how I get into the pvp chat

so uh lexington

[vague token]

[shy hazel]

lexington had over 10 resets too

is that it

👀

[modest elbow]

did this occur in other servers too

like... some guy that far ahead?

[shy hazel]

only sandy and lex

so far

this case is reported

[craggy cove]

I still haven't found Jintsuu, so is Bucky an alright replacement to buff ayaya for now or will that make my frontline too paper

'cause RN running Amagi/Hiryuu/Souryuu + Juneau (will be repleaced)/Ayaya/Aurora

[modest elbow]

still good for opening torp, i guess,

i'd stay with juneau tho

[modern tree]

this is some kinky team

[odd schooner]

Gonna have a bad start again

Oh boy

[shy hazel]

Avrora scores are still pure

[shy hazel]

reported it for now

lets wait and see

so far sandy abd lexington only had this

[elder crane]

Oh fml this is the earliest time I've messed up a season
4 matches lost already....

[weary nacelle]

its hard to crawl up reeeeeeeeeeee

[lament lichen]

[cerulean estuary]

[elder crane]

Got delayed by exams
Then was too happy to be done w exams
And got sidetracked by ppl not climbing on my list

I look up, 3 mins after 2nd reset 😰

[real notch]

oopsie...

[elder crane]

Time to step up my sandbagging game I suppose

[craggy cove]

I probably should have waited for the morning to use 10 but oh well, we'll see how long this season will last

[buoyant parrot]

[shy hazel]

it just started so two weeks

[shy hazel]

nagato with phx is magic srsly

can solo event properlynow lul

[vague token]

i put a +10 air radar and an sg on nagato and she's living through weaker/subpar 110 comps lol

gotta get dat free xp

[buoyant parrot]

wtf... for some apparent reason PvP this season is sort of hard...

I mean in terms of sandbagging

and somewhat wonky... I went straight to 300 last night >__>

[vague token]

xD

[buoyant parrot]

or is it because everyone is now a try hard

[vague token]

all the dst shenanigans made even the normal people believe they can pvp

[buoyant parrot]

#degenral became try hards they oath to degenerate...

[vague token]

which is good, more fresh meat

maybe with more pvp activity we'll get dev attention =D

[buoyant parrot]

we don't want that

but yeah FRESH MEAT is always good

lets teach this casuals how to END GAME

[vague token]

i want dev attention, so we can actually make pvp betterrrrr

but we need a player base

[buoyant parrot]

well there's a lot of whales in the #pvp i think when we go whining mode they take us seriously

otherwise they won't do the reset thingy last time if we aren't that important

besides CEO-Chan already confirmed Guild Activity content in the future... And I'm guessing that got something to do with PvP or competition that would make spice things up. Guild War

[vague token]

owo

[wicked rivet]

I hope so

that would be fun

[buoyant parrot]

guild war = competitive = they had to do something about the current PvP bullcrap we have right now

[wicked rivet]

and something to do with your guild

[vague token]

as long as it's actually competitive and not 20% attacker boost xD

[buoyant parrot]

and having that said we are lacking 3 Lv70+ players right now in the guild... You guys might want to join... Some top PvP players here already in my guild.

ENDROSEMENT TIME 😂

[vague token]

you cant recruit me, im already in

[buoyant parrot]

😂

[shy hazel]

look at my advertisement in guild recruit

[buoyant parrot]

Zack in my guild as well

while Guren is common friends

I hope to get him in the future

[vague token]

honestly im kinda surprised im so high comm level with only 1315 activity lol

but im not the only one at 90+ with under 1500 xD

[lament lichen]

Isnt based on when you joined

[buoyant parrot]

well if you look at Zack he's at 1500 ish something

[vague token]

oh is it?

[buoyant parrot]

and I find it odd since he's like 24/7 lving Nagalewd

[vague token]

oh must be then

im still under 20k attacks though xD

[buoyant parrot]

I can't seem to understand how guild points work right now... Well not that it matters... We are already at Max Lv anyway

[vague token]

fair enough

[finite valve]

guide point is base on dailies / weeklies quest

you get point by completing them

[buoyant parrot]

Well if that's the case that doesn't explain why Zack's Point is soo low in my guild knowing how Edgy that guy is

[vague token]

lol

sheffield can finally cover minne's health

[buoyant parrot]

I'm almost back to my rightful place in the Fleet Rankings just a little bit more

[vague token]

took level 104 lol

[buoyant parrot]

I was thinking of Leveling Shefield but there's no point of me doing it now since Saint Louis is coming

[vague token]

yeah

[buoyant parrot]

Scarping 200 Ships took a toll on me... That threw me to Rank 10

[vague token]

ill be using minne until saint louis is like 105 probably

since it'll take a while to max her

[buoyant parrot]

a month

[vague token]

or even half way

[buoyant parrot]

before you can probably use her... And that's assuming you will focus on her first...

[vague token]

im only really interested in her, roon, and monarch's legs

xD

[buoyant parrot]

I'm going to work on Monarch for High Impact Sexual Violence... and re search purposes of course.

[shy hazel]

the only legs i like are chicken legs

[vague token]

but i have a well known gun bias for vanguards so maybe neptune too

[buoyant parrot]

my dog approves

[shy hazel]

first plan is still monarch for hms investment

but louis sounds v good first for pvp

though no 120 yet

[vague token]

what are the PR barrages like on saint louis and roon anyways

level 2 barrages are like the last thing

on dev list

[buoyant parrot]

yeah I'm sort of thorn right now between Monarch and Saint Louis... But I need that extra fire power for 3rd BB... Besides my Yukikaze and Jesus can hodor the line for the meantime...

[wicked rivet]

how does the fleet power LB work?

[shy hazel]

?fleetpower

[hidden wyvern]

Fleet Power Ranking Calculation

Fleet Power works as follows

1. It considers your entire dock
2. Certain equipment gives more points than others, especially with their rarity
3. Only the highest level girl and the highest LB girl of that particular copy is considered. If there exists another girl or girls of the same LB, the highest combat power girl will be counted in.
4. Duplicates that are of lower LB will be factored in, but follows point 3 except restricted to that particular LB. So 0LB, 1LB, and 2LB each can have the same girl and all three will be counted in. Any duplicates that have lower combat power, however, will not be factored in if they are at the same LB level.
5. If there exists a retrofit of a girl and a MLB of a girl, only the retrofit girl is factored into the fleet power.
6. The equation overall is like this:
   Combat Power w no equip * LB Modifier + Combat Power considering only equip * Equip Modifier.

Explanation courtesy of Enbayft#2527 aka Dunkek

[wicked rivet]

[vague token]

owo

[wicked rivet]

ty

[shy hazel]

[buoyant parrot]

to sum it up whos the better whale

😂

[vague token]

did people ever try montpelier with saint louis or roon?

obviously not as strong as jesus

but just curious

[buoyant parrot]

MontP is 0.5 in Tierlist... as far as I know

so I guess she's good???

[vague token]

cause her buff is pretty stronk

when it procs

X_x

[buoyant parrot]

there's no people here doing experiment on her

maybe we should ask Zack???

[vague token]

im working on her atm

but she's 94

[buoyant parrot]

oh you do it intsead then

[vague token]

xD

skill level 9 on yellow

1 on anti air X_x

[buoyant parrot]

wow

[vague token]

look i try a lot of things and ditch them xD

[buoyant parrot]

doesn't matter for AA just go for yellow to test then abandon if not worth it

[vague token]

she'll be fine for pve anyways

if she doesnt work out

[buoyant parrot]

I think she's good... Chinese people won't rank her 0.5 in Tier List if she sucks so bad.

i don't even understand how they could even rank Belfast T2... When she's good... Probably got overshadowed by the PR ships.

[vague token]

i mean pr ships are so loaded with hp and evade

you dont need belfast to cover you

unless you mean pve

[buoyant parrot]

I guess I should abandon her now...

[vague token]

xD

[buoyant parrot]

gonna switch over to Jesus or Jintsu then

[vague token]

or neptune maybe

since she's basically gold phoenix

[buoyant parrot]

I was saving 2.3M exp so insta Lv120

[vague token]

with edinburgh's ap boost lol

[buoyant parrot]

well eventually I'll get Nep but that's far into the future. Monarch and Saint Louis first

that 2 is already a handful of a project...

[vague token]

fair

oh i just realized saint louis gets 15 gun efficiency from level 30 dev

=/

[placid musk]

which would be better as flagship, amagi or nagato?

[vague token]

nagato

barrage pattern + buff

her buff requires it

[placid musk]

guess i'll make amagi part of the pve fleet then