pvp

[buoyant parrot]

not oath = not 110

[dull hollow]

there can be content too hard for monitors but a fullsized lb0 BB with a big7 sakura barrage will do fine

only if ur like

true esports level of minmax

[zenith tundra]

is hyuuga lb0 good for stuff?

[dull hollow]

lb0 is a meme tbh I only keep lb0 mahans pair

[buoyant parrot]

do more upselling, you might convince me to invest in Mutsu

[finite valve]

non BB barrage are never good for anything

if you consider a 35% fp buff is good then well

[zenith tundra]

i wanted something that could do w6 at lb0

[dull hollow]

the only time where oil minmaxing ever mattered a shit in this game was the Bart event

[shy hazel]

and its probably ens next event

[dull hollow]

if u dont get those guns u get fucked in pve and pvp

[finite valve]

also i still really dk if siren do drop 2 bp

[buoyant parrot]

Oh? don't we get Mikasa first? or Taihou?

[dull hollow]

i think we got bart before taihou but idr

[finite valve]

any one here ever get a 2 bp drop from siren?

[zenith tundra]

taihou is anniversary

[finite valve]

i only ever see 1

[buoyant parrot]

oohh

[zenith tundra]

with essex and albacore

[dull hollow]

taihou's super fun in namagi

818 = slow

her ryuusei = blow up enemy nagato

[finite valve]

taihou main point is to nuke the VG due to how Op her planes are

[dull hollow]

no lmao that's never happened with taihou

the only time CV were queens of front killing was release nakaga

110 uncap + no strong PR units to tank for you =

once 120 hit and PRs trickled in

nakaga never bombed a front again

[zenith tundra]

keeping stuff alive is so hard even against amakaga sometimes

[dull hollow]

dw nakaga becomes a non issue... eventually ....

you guys already have namagi

Just wait for PR and hiryuu kai

[buoyant parrot]

it becomes irrelevant once Warspite Kai + Monarchs comes in

[dull hollow]

rn I think the matchup between namagi and nakaga for EN should be even

monarch has nothing to do with warspite being strong

warspite does best on IJN comps

[finite valve]

yeh not because JP got the best shit for pvp anyway

no sir not in the slightest

[zenith tundra]

as does sirius aurora

[dull hollow]

akaga actually a revival thanks to warspite

it's super fucking funny

"guys our current loli isnt good enough to make our CV division strong

kidnap the HMS's new loli"

"ok"

[buoyant parrot]

lol

[finite valve]

wonder if the kraugt BB going to be the new monarch

[dull hollow]

when do we get HE hoodstyle barrage

[buoyant parrot]

the more options we have the better... Makes PvP a thinking game the more options we have

[dull hollow]

pvp will be never a thinking game with warspite existing

that or the powercreep becomes asburdly dumbo

[finite valve]

new power creep soon™

[buoyant parrot]

well I'm sure they'll come up with Warspite Killer BOTTE like they always do with meta's

[dull hollow]

warspite killer already soft exists

it's hiryuu kai

[buoyant parrot]

yeah but we need hard counter

[dull hollow]

pvp is just

run warspite or hiryuu kai

if u dont have one or other expect to lose

[finite valve]

like that matter when you can just position your WS

[dull hollow]

run both and become team liquid

buy all the best talent and put them on a team

💸

[buoyant parrot]

lol

[finite valve]

still can't win world

oops

[finite valve]

spotted a dege

[real notch]

I just realized i have no recon planes OMEGALUL

[zenith tundra]

wow

i saved them

rip red books in between nagato kawakaze and hyuuga kai...

[real notch]

Is that the best recon plane

[zenith tundra]

for now yes

[modern tree]

its the only one we have atm

[zenith tundra]

they'll add one with 1600lb bomb instead of 500lb

in core data

jp got it last month tho

2.4k chips in accumulation shop

[hot creek]

wow they finished maintenance real early

[zenith tundra]

5:30hrs i think it was

good luck with nagato

[hot creek]

its not logging me into my account

do i have to login again

[zenith tundra]

change server

[buoyant parrot]

and yes Zack Stella and I already have all the event ships lol

[hot creek]

i did

[zenith tundra]

use twitter if u updated app

from store

i had to use 3rd party login

[modern tree]

if you updated the app it wipes your data so I hope you have it bound

[zenith tundra]

that's dumb imo

[shy hazel]

so far no reports on lost accounts

we tested the yostar bind

didnt have problem about it in our test

the difference is tho

im on double bind rn

twitter and yostar

[zenith tundra]

i have my account bind to all 3 platforms tbh

[split socket]

I'm going to wait til everyone has tried it out and has 100% confirmed it works perfectly before touching it

[livid fractal]

I haven't updated anything

[split socket]

not going to risk binding to a newly launched service with the awful QA we've had

[livid fractal]

Also I finally got my own Nagato

[zenith tundra]

i just tied it and no problems login in with yostar

u bind ur account to an email account pretty much

[shy hazel]

yup

[split socket]

I'd rather be on the safe side :p wait a few days, might be bugs and whatnot

[shy hazel]

ive been on it

for 3 days

beta test privilege

[split socket]

I have it bound on both fb and twitter anyway and it's been working well so far

[zenith tundra]

i'm not unbinding the other 2 either way

[buoyant parrot]

damn I run out of oil... And I cant buy gems to buy oil... fukoda

[finite valve]

using oil before a big event so that you can't be a dege by using nagato

lel

[buoyant parrot]

oh wait... I'll use event token to purchase OIL INSTEAD

[wicked rivet]

me but with gold for builds

[zenith tundra]

i'm waiting for 3k to buy all chips at once

[buoyant parrot]

wait wat??? but you have a bajillion of chips laying around

[zenith tundra]

sure bajilions right?

[hot creek]

man, i knew I should have just stayed up instead of taking a nap. Now I'm two hours late into the mindb....oathing process.

[buoyant parrot]

lol what happen... the other day you sent a screenshot here that's in the thousands

[zenith tundra]

i never had over 600 chips at a time

always used them

[buoyant parrot]

oh wait that might be stella

[shy hazel]

i never have less than 500

i can limitbreak some ships

[zenith tundra]

u need more ships...

[wicked rivet]

I bought chips with core data and that was a mistake

[shy hazel]

but i was keeping gold

and is krrping still

for my refits

[wicked rivet]

how to return items to shop pls help

[zenith tundra]

too late

[shy hazel]

not rly a misake fyam

[split socket]

it's good to awaken most of ur lvl 100 ships asap

[shy hazel]

120 will need so much

lol

[split socket]

I noticed quite a lot of comms exp get lost due to lvl 100 capped ships getting chosen with comms advice

[zenith tundra]

i forgot to do hm 3 days in a row and lost 200 core data

[wicked rivet]

by the time 120 comes I'll have enough to LB all my ships to 120

[split socket]

how do you forget to do hm z_z

[zenith tundra]

idk

[wicked rivet]

you need a lvl 100 for the research comms

so thats probly why they get auto chosen

thats definitely why

[split socket]

yea thats what I mean

they also gain 0 exp if they aren't awakened yet and I only noticed that a few days ago

had I known I would've lb'd everyon straight away instead of stocking chips

[finite valve]

i only lvl break ship i plan on lvling

[zenith tundra]

all my awakens were either for ships that had already xp or was using atm

[finite valve]

a few waste exp is not really a problem

[zenith tundra]

i don't have 1 ship over lvl 100 that's not lvl capped

[split socket]

I'm trying to rank up on fleet power to top 3 so thats why I'm concerned with small stuff like that lol

every bit helps

[finite valve]

is that on avrora?

[split socket]

I'm on sandy

[zenith tundra]

another sandy?

[ionic magnet]

nothing is lost cos everyone does it just the same lol

[finite valve]

another nothing lel

[split socket]

that shit comm never gives any ship 🤦

[finite valve]

only 1 report of it giving ship

a fucking sandy on April fool even

[split socket]

I've had lvl 90 ceremonial ship like 5 times, and lower lvl ones countless of times

never received a single ship from any of them

[zenith tundra]

april fool had a sandy drop from it

[finite valve]

even on JP i have several ship drop from small and fleet comp

here got 0 drop from all 3

[zenith tundra]

still a bunch of gold so worth it

[split socket]

the devs says it's not bugged though so who knows

[finite valve]

they even specifically said that the commission was bug way before all of this

so i think that the comp is still fucking bug

[split socket]

only that "Perfect" showing is the bug

[finite valve]

like 0.0000001% drop or something

[zenith tundra]

the bug reported was that it says perfect even without it being actual perfect

[hot creek]

oh my god, they made the logout button more annoying to get to now. this is the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals maybe ever.

[split socket]

?

[finite valve]

DM to donal trump ASAP

[split socket]

it's still the same no?

[finite valve]

tell him to build a wall

[zenith tundra]

omg just noticed that

[finite valve]

a "fire wall"

[zenith tundra]

why rip sandbaggers lol

[finite valve]

no lol

you need to scroll the log out button now

[split socket]

I don't get it, what changed?

uh no?

[shy hazel]

u need to scroll down

[finite valve]

yes dude

[shy hazel]

u see logout button now

[modern tree]

new apk has logout hidden

[split socket]

it's shown like this for me

[hot creek]

he probably hasn't updated app from store

[split socket]

yea I didn't

[finite valve]

you didn't update the app lol

[split socket]

I just updated through game

see, that's why you shouldn't trust AL team for doing stuff right

[hot creek]

update isn't necessary unless you wanna bind with new yostar service anyways

but yeah

take me back

we have to go back kate

[shy hazel]

i got used to it alrdy

after 3 days

[ionic magnet]

oh i wont update then lol

[split socket]

updoot the autopvp refresh on game suggestions if u haven't already

[zenith tundra]

can we request a change in positions and have help under logout

[finite valve]

doubt it going to matter when they going to force update anyway

better sooner then later

[split socket]

they should implement that shit already instead of forcing us to relog god knows how many times a day

[finite valve]

the sooner you get use to it the better

[ionic magnet]

ill update when they force me to

updating now will just annoy me pls

[zenith tundra]

good strat

[finite valve]

then you will not be bale to catch up to the ppl who already used to it from day 1

LMFAO

[ionic magnet]

used what

[split socket]

yea, gotta master that logout mlg pro mechanics

[finite valve]

sanbagger?

[thick matrix]

lmfao

[ionic magnet]

nothings new anyway right? just binding stuff and a hidden collab content

[finite valve]

kazuna ai is the first collab

second hidden is either uwa or PR

somehow i say it going to be uwa

[zenith tundra]

the update is yostar bind and screwing up sandbaggers

[ionic magnet]

yea so nothing useful

[split socket]

I doubt we'll get utawarerumono collab at all lol

[hot creek]

how2goback

guess ill just get used to it. ugh, ima have to update my phone too

[finite valve]

well for PR the question i need answer is whether we going to get both 1 and 2 or only 1

[zenith tundra]

i don't even think reinstalling app would work unless u can find an older version of the base apk

[finite valve]

if we get both then maybe i am going to swtich to kraught BB and monarch

[zenith tundra]

i don't think we get pr2 so early

most likely gonna take a bit before that

[finite valve]

well the problem is they going to lost money due to license for PR 2 on EN right?

[ionic magnet]

yea prolly first batch only

[finite valve]

so it might be wise to do PR 1 and 2

unless i am wrong

[buoyant parrot]

you guys have to consider we have WoW Collab soon and that Kizuna Ai soon thingy

[ionic magnet]

EN is unpredictable anyway so who knows

[split socket]

they wouldn't really lose money, it's probably the other way around

they wont be doing collabs in the first place if they can't earn money with it

[finite valve]

if there is anything that is always true in the business world

is that they hate to LOSE money

so it is perfectly viable to do both PR to not lose money

[split socket]

u have to keep in mind that by releasing the content part by part, they get a steady revenue

[grave gale]

there's no benefit for them to time gate events by 1 day.

[finite valve]

lost money is still lost regardless

also PR ain't got anything matter to revenue

[split socket]

it's not lost if they can still run the event later

[finite valve]

AL revenue come from skin

and since you can't "build" PR ship

[split socket]

PR skins hello?

[finite valve]

it is stupid to not release both to save money

that is from PR 1 LMFAO

[grave gale]

oath rings and skins are how they make money

[finite valve]

PR 2 got no skin atm

[split socket]

yea, more reason to delay it then

no one except whales are going to shell out skins for all PR ships

all at one event, if u split it up ppl are more likely to buy from both

[finite valve]

also if your basic is like that then why give skin of JP rerun on original run then?

[split socket]

cause they make new skins all the time

[finite valve]

then can't they also do it to PR?

[buoyant parrot]

I don't think they are trying to delay stuff... Actually they are trying to speed things up so we can be on the same event/content with JP/CN... That was a discussion 3 days ago in general

[split socket]

and they can rerun those events without license

[finite valve]

like i can't see no reason why you can do it on event

and not on PR?

[split socket]

License dude

[finite valve]

and you lost money due to license anyway

so still 50 50 in my book

but whatever tbh

[split socket]

yea this discussion isn't going anywhere lol

honestly, if they really want to speed things up so we can be on the same content

they should be releasing reruns

instead of original events

[finite valve]

all for the green lol

[split socket]

that's the part I don't understand

[finite valve]

now this is where your point is correct

[zenith tundra]

we are getting 2 week events and 1 week break any more then this is like asking for a part of the players to quit

[finite valve]

run event 2 times = ppl will whale for gold / cubes to roll

so ofc they going to separate into rerun / normal

[buoyant parrot]

a lot of our player base are casuals... If we go content after content they won't be able to catch up

hence we lose players

[split socket]

reruns won't hurt casuals

[zenith tundra]

not everyone spends 6hrs per day on al

[finite valve]

yep

if anything it help them

since we getting all the ship in 1 event

[zenith tundra]

the amount of cubes u can get is gated mostly

[finite valve]

not wasting cubes on the 2 run

[split socket]

it's just more ships that you might be able to get, and then later on they can do ANOTHER rerun again

[finite valve]

this is where tobi point is correct

making them more money from cubes / gold

[zenith tundra]

ur not helping someone with 50 cubes by adding more ships

[split socket]

u are in the long run

[zenith tundra]

ur helping the one with 800 cubes

[split socket]

By releasing the rerun event, u might be able to get everyone on the first time if ur lucky even with low cube stock

[finite valve]

eh tell that to raven dude

[zenith tundra]

there is no long run if player quits

[finite valve]

that dude roll 2.4k cubes

and still can't get nagato

[zenith tundra]

(nice pvp discussion btw)

[ionic magnet]

even hardcores are already having problems with cubes rn actually

[finite valve]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/514333481061449729/565893629910974464/Biggest_Yikes.png

[split socket]

this is the real general of AL, what is pvp

[finite valve]

it matter shit when your luck is E rank

[hot creek]

seems legit

[ionic magnet]

if you do reruns then whaling is p much mandatory

[buoyant parrot]

@zenith tundra you know this is a good thing... because if you look at #al-general its full of stupid things and degenerate discussions.... I find this place more General at the same time PvP

[split socket]

It's because all the players with brains are in this ch

[finite valve]

well since most mods are busy during 1 day of event

we quite safe lel

[zenith tundra]

@buoyant parrot technically speaking "All clubs have strict on-topic rules"

[ionic magnet]

busy or not they dont come here xD

[finite valve]

lel as if

syanda come here 1 time and ppl argue with him about that rule

[zenith tundra]

i know very well there are no mods in this channel ever

[finite valve]

and when they do

oh boi

[hot creek]

they do come sometimes

[buoyant parrot]

zack is like a sleepless malice of this channel

[split socket]

lets hope Zack doesn't become a mod 😓

[zenith tundra]

i wont don't worry

[finite valve]

if he become a mod = no more mod will come to #pvp

so win win lel

[livid fractal]

Zack will be strict to us if that happens

[split socket]

I like u a lot better if u cant mute us for being off topic hahaha

[livid fractal]

[finite valve]

since i doubt ppl will send 2 mod into a club room

[buoyant parrot]

sad... zack be like bla bla bla off topic bla bla bla... my answer to that is F*ck off... go soewhere where there a lot of stupid discussion like general. Go join the other degenerates

/dan @buoyant parrot WORTH IT

[finite valve]

also is there really a rule or like req for a mod to be strict / enforce rule like a good boi?

[zenith tundra]

i don't think there is

[finite valve]

if i ever become a mod i doubt i am going to care about off topic if no 1 actively ping mod to report in the channel itself

[buoyant parrot]

question about Kawakaze is she viable in PvP? or too edgy?

[finite valve]

if you like to reset a lot

why not?

[zenith tundra]

kawakaze hp is worse then aya...

[split socket]

except for looking absolutely beast, theres no reason I see for using her over aya / yukikaze

[buoyant parrot]

... BUT SHE LOOK SOOOO KEWL!!

[finite valve]

then use her in pve lel

[zenith tundra]

actually kawakaze dmg is so much better then aya and yukikaze

[split socket]

as soon as I get here owo

her*

[zenith tundra]

at least against vgs

[finite valve]

only against light and medium

[split socket]

which is like 99% of the pvp vg u fight

[buoyant parrot]

well if you think about it... we are going to see a lot of Jesus/Belfast soon

[finite valve]

heavy VG when lel

[buoyant parrot]

so don't you think Kawakaze will be great?

[split socket]

also no, how would Kawakaze outdps aya on torp?

[zenith tundra]

it's from 80% to 115% dmg modifier on light

[finite valve]

look at JP / CN meta and tell me what do you see?

[zenith tundra]

it's a 35% dmg bonus she gets on vgs against anyone else

[buoyant parrot]

no kawakaze of course... but we aint JP/CN yet

[split socket]

aya got torp barrages, skill that buffs her own torps as well

higher torp eff%

and even higher torp stats

[zenith tundra]

kawakaze barrage is like yukikaze

[finite valve]

even w/o PR no one use her when nagaka was a thing

post PR all meta was YKK sendai and aurora

back line just the usual nagaka

[split socket]

and then theres the problem with her hp & eva being lower

[buoyant parrot]

[zenith tundra]

35%-15%(extra effciency for aya)+15%(against cruisers)=35% dmg bonus which is less considering lower torp stat but still very good

[livid fractal]

I feel sad looking at #tech-support for the ones who can't retrieve their accounts oof

[finite valve]

my question for them is that did they bind on both FB and twitter?

[zenith tundra]

i don't even want to know that

[grave gale]

I don't feel sorry for those that never bound their account. It's been said countless times to do so.

[split socket]

I mean, ayas skill gives herself 60% extra torp stats....

[finite valve]

since everyone knows FB is fuck

so i have no idea why you won't bind both

[zenith tundra]

doesn't affect opening torp

i know aya is better overall but as dmg against vg there is no way aya is better then kawakaze

[livid fractal]

they don't use social media

[split socket]

anyone care to do the actual math ?

[buoyant parrot]

well how about this... Since I'm poise to Oath Kawakaze and make her 110 will see that if she's good par to Ayaya

[zenith tundra]

i never used fb and twitter either

[finite valve]

is like saying hey i am not going to create a yahoo acc for an "online" game

[zenith tundra]

i can do the math in like 15mins or so

[split socket]

it'd be interesting to see at least the dmg difference

if kawakazes opening torps are really that much stronger, and how it compares after 2nd torp or even 3rd

[grave gale]

you don't have to use social media to make a dummy twitter account just for the sake of binding it.

[zenith tundra]

that's what i did lol

[split socket]

I'm pretty sure aya will outdps the crap outta kawakaze as long as the battle goes on and doesn't end within the first opening torp lol

[finite valve]

more so for any game that you plane to INVEST in

is like saving 1 mill dolar in saving but not making a bank account to make it safe

[grave gale]

I feel sorry for intern for having to deal with all this

[finite valve]

dumb ppl are dumb lol

[zenith tundra]

i'm not familiar enough with barrages dmg to calculate demon dance and all but ayanami is better against heavy armor while kawakaze is better against light and cruisers

[finite valve]

so use ayaya vs wasd comp and use kawakaze for nagaka comp?

[split socket]

it'll be pretty easy to test in exstages

[hot creek]

if you were playing on an unbinded account and then update to access new yostar bind then your account get deleted lul

[finite valve]

catering to dumb ppl who can't / won't read a fucking big red text that recommend them to bind their account

what have the world become

[split socket]

if u've ever worked in customer service, u'll know just how dumb ppl can be

[finite valve]

oh i work in a mc donal

so yeh i already have my fair share of dumb ppl

[hot creek]

yeah but its kind of bullshit that updating deletes your account if unbound

imagine if you were one of those who was playing unbinded and you hear about new yostar account service

and then quickly update

[buoyant parrot]

omg I haven't eaten a thing since maintenance started X____x

[hot creek]

rip in piece

[buoyant parrot]

I felt dizzy lol, brb

[split socket]

this is just another perfect example of them lacking proper QA

on the other hand, unless ur a complete newbie to the game, u should have known to bind ur account

so it's both devs fault and ppl being stupid

[finite valve]

don't beta tester suppose to find these shit in the first place?

[split socket]

ppl just want free gems lol

if u want proper QA, do it properly with qualified ppl. Having beta test is good for getting large amount of data, but the quality suffers

I get the impression they just pick the easy way and let other ppl do the testing

[modern tree]

qualified QA lol

[zenith tundra]

dmg x torp using gold quad against light armor cruisers (pve)
kawakaze 1840
ayanami 1278

[finite valve]

more like free 10 pull

100 gem is only for 1 report

[split socket]

and what about after ayas buff?

[zenith tundra]

kawkaze goes to 1.6k if it's not a cruiser

lvl 100 btw don't want to look up jp wiki for 110 stats too lazy lol

with "the demon" ayanami dmg goes up to 1930

[split socket]

no worries, I'm too lazy to even bother so I appreciate u doing it already haha

[finite valve]

doubt many ppl going to use DD whose name does not include YKK vs nagaka tbh

[split socket]

I'd imagine ayas damage scale better in the end though as her skill gets better the more torp stats she has

[zenith tundra]

i'll do the math with 2 oxy

[finite valve]

roo unreliable in AI hand

most if not all the time the fucking torp just miss

yeh it work when it hit but that is like 3/10 times it work

[zenith tundra]

kawakaze 2416
ayanami 2543
with 2 oxy and aya "the demon"

diminishing returns on torp stat too strong

[split socket]

so without considering the barrage dmg difference, aya would lose

[zenith tundra]

on light armor

[split socket]

but ayas barrage got torps, so if it hits, probably then it'll do better?

unless kawakaze got torps in her barrage too... which I can't even check cause my build luck sucks as usual

[zenith tundra]

against a heavy ship with 2 oxy and aya demon skill
kawakaze 2101
ayanami 4132

kawakaze normal barrage has torp like yukikaze

[split socket]

I see

[zenith tundra]

aya 1k ahead against medium too

kawakaze is plain and simple a light armor hunter

against medium main fleet aya does same dmg as kawakaze without demon skill

[split socket]

so other than vs light armor targets, aya pretty much surpasses kawakaze in every other aspect :x

[zenith tundra]

yeah kawakaze shines against light armor cruisers (all cruisers used in pvp btw)

[split socket]

at least until lvl 120 and pr

[zenith tundra]

this is her barrage
http://wiki.joyme.com/blhx/江风

[buoyant parrot]

now that makes me want to really rush my Kawakaze to see if its worth it

[zenith tundra]

it's kind of cool tbh

[split socket]

so basically, enjoy ur kawakaze while u still (maybe) can 😄

[zenith tundra]

kawakaze base hp is worse then aya tho and she has no extra evasion too

[buoyant parrot]

aside that she's so KAKKOII

[zenith tundra]

i'm not even sure how would u even use kawakaze against light armor bosses since she's so squishy tbh

[buoyant parrot]

not bosses... PvP

lol

[zenith tundra]

i wasn't talking about u... i meant in general

[buoyant parrot]

oohh

[zenith tundra]

aya has trouble already surviving in w7hm against dd boss

with jintsuu and yukikaze in same party

but i guess u need a tank for both aya and kawakaze

[split socket]

it's a shame kawakaze skill doesn't affect jp cruisers

would've been nice to run kawa aya jin

[zenith tundra]

imo she should still be better against most cruisers then aya since a lot of them are light. i'll use jintsuu kawa/aya yukikaze depending on boss armor

[leaden jay]

Type 1 AP/SHS doesn't exist on EN right now, so what's a good replacement for Nagato?

What about the Advanced FCR?

[zenith tundra]

if u want u can also use hsfcr and sg

[split socket]

I'd suggest using fcr on nagato and give 2sg to amag instead if u plan on using both

[leaden jay]

Okay, thanks~

[zenith tundra]

it just depends on the timing amagi ends up without hsfcr equipped and what u lose as killing potential

[buoyant parrot]

IMO I wouldn't take out the hsfcr on Amagai.. I'll leave it there.

[zenith tundra]

u need to see what u end up slower then without it

i did the math just a while ago for ayanami vs kawakaze and kawakaze is better only against light armors which are vg. if u want to delete vg really fast kawakaze is better then aya while if u want dmg on main fleet ayanami is better

[buoyant parrot]

well when you're fighting a Nagato your Ayanami is useless except the opening torp barrage

[zenith tundra]

kawakaze +50% dmg from opening torp over aya on vg

[split socket]

if ur using amagi with nagato, u wont have amagi on flagship anymore, thats why I feel like giving nagato faster shots to be more beneficial (as long as she actually procs)

[buoyant parrot]

when enemy Nagato triggeres BIG SEVEN - SAKURA your Ayanami is 100% bound to die

[zenith tundra]

ayanami 2x dmg with "the demon" buff on heavy armor over kawakaze

[buoyant parrot]

@split socket that's the thing if it didnt trigger you are bound to do reset

[finite valve]

all these torp autism and here i am using stall front YKK jesus and belfap

zzz

[buoyant parrot]

don't worry that one is 100% tested

its still going to be meta

[split socket]

which will probably be the case with or without fcr, I'd prefer having the chance to have the first strike

[finite valve]

nagato for hpfcr since amagi already got speed up from her skill

[split socket]

^ this

[buoyant parrot]

will see, I'll do testing and post videos/result here

[split socket]

0

[finite valve]

1 edgy boat and everyone all up and arm in trying to make her work
no offend just amaze

[modern tree]

34, and I felt like I am slow

[zenith tundra]

doing math doesn't level my nagato so rip me

[split socket]

it's not everyday you get an actual cool looking edgy bote

[buoyant parrot]

mine is Lv11 coz I put her on a 10 hour Commission right away. I can't carry 2 low lv ships on hard modes where I grind/farm also I need to be oil efficient

[split socket]

I'm expecting u to post ur 110 nagto on the 4th day

[vague token]

got nagato on 4th build after waking up, guess im all done

[buoyant parrot]

coz I'm also grinding Kawakaze

[zenith tundra]

[buoyant parrot]

can't put my downes... I have MOgami with me

[zenith tundra]

doing event maps ofc

need points for stuff

[hot creek]

mines only lvl 30. fucking 2 hours late cause they finished so early

[zenith tundra]

there we go

[coral wren]

WTF happened to the

logout button

am I in SAo

[vague token]

oh no, we have to enhance hyuuga's aviation

=/

[zenith tundra]

scroll down

[vague token]

i hope this event drops carriers lol

[coral wren]

oh wow. cant they put help on the bottom

-.-

[zenith tundra]

just noticed that @vague token

yeah it's so dumb rn

[vague token]

she starts 50 aviation short

[coral wren]

feed her Enterprise

[vague token]

lol

i dont think owari da is worth that much aviation xD

[split socket]

about time I get some use out of cv fodders lol

[vague token]

and my gold is destroyed

[split socket]

I've been using them as reload fodders for months

[zenith tundra]

i just feed my cvs to nagato for reload lol

[vague token]

xD

[split socket]

that's all they are good for tbh, there are too few cv/cvl in this game

I've long maxed out aviation on every single one lol

[vague token]

im still working on that X_x

like chaser and bogue were taking up mine

and now to go to work and just have nagato in dorm for later xD

[zenith tundra]

i like that 355 aa stat

best hm slots ever

[coral wren]

wow

so empty

[zenith tundra]

we can use what we want for once

[zenith tundra]

wow

that stomp on wasda with some ijn ships

yukiaze is too much

1:30 in and both yukikaze still alive

these fights aren't even remotely close to me losing lol

finally lost

yukikaze only left alive on opponent team

my vg got sniped pretty hard here

[coral wren]

jesus how long is each fight

[lament lichen]

1 min fights

[zenith tundra]

speed makes or breaks u

trying to control my speed so my vg doesn't insta die or lasts way too long is pretty hard

[zenith tundra]

omg

[coral wren]

RIP

u didnt exit fast enough

big yikes

[zenith tundra]

yukikaze meta

1min shooting at her

[coral wren]

how to make yukikaze even more annoying?

[modern tree]

Sheff

[coral wren]

I think oxy torp is kinda wasted

boiler?

[zenith tundra]

boiler fe

imo

[coral wren]

The B/D map for Ink-Stained Steel Sakura Event will be unlocked in approximately 24 hours (Apr 12th 12:00 PM PST)

why the fuck we getting time gate

the event is in like 2 weeks?

we wont have time to get 100k

FFS

[zenith tundra]

good news is there is time for nagato to proc her barrage at least

[coral wren]

hopefully she will proc atleast once in that 2 mins

btw I am lvling nuggots skills

Red or yellow first?

[zenith tundra]

if u don't use her straight for pvp red

[coral wren]

I always do 8 hour on both skills to get them to half way

and then decide on one to max first

so red for pve?

I mean she is 25 atm. big yikes in pvp

😮

what u doing to get her

up so fast

maybe I shouldnt use monty to take mvp

are u giving her all the mvps?

ah

I am just letting her sit in flagship while monty clears everything in event maps

I guess thats the diff

[modern tree]

I am doing event map with just her and z25 with no guns or torps, shes 45 atm

also, doesnt she buff herself, making maxing yellow skill a little better for leveling?

[coral wren]

but higher proc for red = more likely to get mvp?

[zenith tundra]

if no one else does dmg who cares

[modern tree]

controling mvp with an RNG skill is such a strange idea

[coral wren]

but how long does a battle take

damn

if u use vanguard without weapons

hmm

I see

[shy hazel]

im taking barrage first

because its way cooler

[coral wren]

Cyaneko are u using 406 or 381?

and 0lb?

I see

okidoki

I see

I just wanna see how to get her mvp xD

I am doing event maps for now

well help is slow-.-

oh

no no

I dont wanna ask help

xD

was simply curious

how u were doing it

but u told me already

:p

ty

I see

[ripe veldt]

thoughts on nakaga vs nagato/amagi/hiryuu kai-less

🤔

[stoic vector]

depends on frontline, but i believe that hiryuu nonkai is just a meme

[ripe veldt]

would it be triple BB back when mikasa comes out

or is she bad, idk how her fire rate compares

oh

[stoic vector]

also mikasa needs flagship, and nagato flagship is better

[ripe veldt]

oh right

yeah then hiryuu is kinda memey, having her as flagship would be optimal tank position

Also would ideal front be jintsuu/sendai/aya

haven't actually run into a decent sendai in pvp yet so i can't tell

[coral wren]

hiryuu is a beast already non kai

put ryuusei on her and watch her kill enemy backlines

ez 1v2 x

[zenith tundra]

the only problem with hiryuu for now is that she would be better flagship in almost every case

[ripe veldt]

true

buffing planes vs rng torps

idk i've had quite a few where jintsuu survives akaga with 75% hp and just tanks the entire 2nd wave

its prob the +1k hp and pearl tears on someone else

and 20% reduction

would bb kaga fit

haven't actually tested in pvp

[zenith tundra]

baga is good but still reliant on a 50% barrage to do stuff

[ripe veldt]

yeah true

amagi gets around with reload skill

Ill test and fool around when nagato has like 8/8 in skills

If anything ill rotate on easier fleets cause still need to farm some 110s

[hot creek]

but will you be in top 100 by end of season?

[zenith tundra]

full ijn vg sounds dumb

juneau is meta in pvp since wasde lol

[modern tree]

with lvl 110 stats its really hard to justify not running her and it will be even harder when 120 gets here

[split socket]

-__-" fell asleep midpvp and lost 3 attempts to reset

[modern tree]

this happens to me every time I get sick

[hot creek]

another one bites the dust

[split socket]

was leading so well :'<

[modern tree]

this season is hard to care about either way, but I feel it

[hazy rain]

leveling Nagato

you're right thanks

Nagato is so enthusiasthic

I hate when people put two level 1 ships on their defense fleets

at least put leveled ships please

people who put max level bulins are doing gods work

[modern tree]

you have juneau and belfast to level, but I guess bullins are pretty important too

[hot creek]

bow down to your new loli overlord https://puu.sh/DdkLI/c678356a6b.png

[shy hazel]

the Leftmst

[real notch]

@hazy rain KAWAIIII

[vague token]

it's the end of the pvp world as we know it

and we feel fine

(until warspite kai)

just got back from work, so im just starting the grind

[real notch]

Wtf

You madman

I got her like 8 hours ago and i thought i was fast

[vague token]

why would you just lie to us like that

jk

[real notch]

Tho i did sleep like 4 hours cus i woke up early to roll

[vague token]

probably

lol

[hot creek]

done so soon? why dont you join me in maximum autismo day 1 oathing

[hot creek]

lvl 63 at 72 affinity

I only need about 6 more hours

[vague token]

finally got portland to 110

[hybrid tendon]

i use portland in pvp

now and then

[dull hollow]

i'm

so tilted

i FINALLY find Wakaga in pvp

but WTF is that garbage frontline

fucking end

shit fucking players on my server man

[hybrid tendon]

that frontline works

[ionic magnet]

why is it garbage tho

[hybrid tendon]

when you are attacking

not good on defending

but who the fuck cares

about defending

[ionic magnet]

foxes are garbage in def so doesnt matter

[dull hollow]

that frontline is fucking terrible it's got ayanami in it

[hybrid tendon]

if you are attacking ayaya would blow the shit outta your frontline

[dull hollow]

I've been trying to gather data on Wakaga on defense since it's something I never tested

[ionic magnet]

so who do you want as VGs then

[dull hollow]

and when I finally find it some dipshit uses an ayanmi frontline

[grave gale]

I'm not looking forward to when we get level 120. Leveling all our pvp ships to 120 is gonna suuuck

[dull hollow]

Either a Jintsuu/Sendai based front or a ykkz/Junny based front

[hybrid tendon]

ex dee

[dull hollow]

wakaga is actually so strong on attacker but I was never able to collect data on the comp on defense

[ionic magnet]

thats jint and ykkz no?

[dull hollow]

ykkz junny

not ykkz jintsuu

maybe if the ayanami was a junny it would be worth testing against

[ionic magnet]

so ykkz jun and who?

[dull hollow]

but as it stands right now it's just not worth testing

ykkz junny

jinstuu
neptune
Saint
sandy kai

[ionic magnet]

yea jun >>> aya for foxes imo

but thats not garbage at all

[dull hollow]

aya has no place in pvp lmao

like period

for actual competitive comps

i can't gather good data vs wakaga because the front is so off

[ionic magnet]

i mean torp VGs has still the highest ceiling when torps hit

[dull hollow]

if that aya were sendai or junny it would affect the difficulty so much

if you actually wanted to torp vanguard sendai is still better

and esp in the context of foxes

[ionic magnet]

debatable

but sendai prolly wins by just a little

[buoyant parrot]

wow Zack is right Hiryuu is really stronk... I've been killing full 110 fleet while my Hiryuu is 100

She stronk as F

[vague token]

i dont understand why people said she was low damage when she just gets off more air strike damage unless you are super unlucky

like

she's only a bit under foxes

over 30 seconds or so

or at least for a solo it's impressive

xD

ok maybe more than a bit but then you also have 2 other ships

it's like foxes do what, 5.4 air strikes (1.35 * 2 * 2) in 30 seconds?

hiryuu does 3

but only takes up 1 slot

[charred kindle]

uhhh,so in my main fleet, I will for sure use Nagato and Amagi
for my third slot, would Kaga BB or Enty be better
I can't count how many times Enty has came in clutch for me, so im unsure whether or not to drop her

[real notch]

nyehhh well statwise hiryuu is 350 ava vs. a fox 486 ava

the extra airstrike is definitely good though

i killed full 110 fleet with my level 70 nagato

[coral wren]

whats wakaga?

waluigii

[vague token]

yeah, so 350 * 3 with 1 character

486 * 4 with 2

not a bad ratio

given you get 15 seconds of invuln

[coral wren]

me UWU

[shy hazel]

why are there memers here

[vague token]

lol

[coral wren]

cus PVP itself is a meme

pls dont me

[leaden sequoia]

ppl won't 🔨 you if they also think it's a meme

[coral wren]

I am afraid of

[ionic magnet]

pvp is a meme?! the blasphemy

[buoyant parrot]

why is this heretic even in this place... Burn him at the stake

[coral wren]

auto battle + 20% buff which guarantees 100% win rate is not a meme 😠

[hazy rain]

mmmph
WITNESS THE POWER OF YUKIKAZE THE GREAT!

I couldn't get the screenshot with she saying it

it was on top of Amagi's body btw

trying to level Nagato is making me reset a ton against competent fleets, and I actually doubted I would win this

but apparently amakagi is useless once vanguard dies that even a single yukikaze can poke them to death

[hot creek]

https://puu.sh/DdvR2/44a9a876c8.png

[random vault]

mad lad oathing on day 1

i see someone in sandy at 16k event points already lol

[zenith tundra]

pvp is dead... 4hrs for a +1

[shy hazel]

i stopped trying

pvp reset + event + some people cant prolly login

[random vault]

my nagato barely broke lv60 today

[shy hazel]

mine 70 soon

[random vault]

do u grind her outside the event

[hot creek]

imagine being a top ranker with an unbound account

[shy hazel]

outside

event is terrible for grinding lvl lol

[random vault]

yea but im afraid i cant finish event on time for some reason

[shy hazel]

for me i just want 50k

[random vault]

so im trying to throw all my oil on event only

[shy hazel]

total points

[random vault]

i aim mainly for all the chips

30k+

[zenith tundra]

i aim for 55k-60k u have all the time to lvl up ships

[buoyant parrot]

does any of you guys know any for hire artist illustrator? I need a custom banner made for my guild... Paying handsomely of course(off topic real quick)

[shy hazel]

dunno anyone

[zenith tundra]

[buoyant parrot]

OH YOU ARE?!!!

wait you have to join our guild's discord

[zenith tundra]

1 day when i chat in more then 1 channel in discord

[buoyant parrot]

sent

[vague token]

lol

[hazy rain]

good vanguard for hyunagamagi?

I think torpmemes can successfully make reset someone once every 20 times, but defense memes consistently make you spend more time

[vague token]

well, amagi/nagato doesnt have the same burst pressure to go with the torps i imagine

compared to foxes

so probably juneau/ykk is better

[hazy rain]

yeah that was what I thought

[vague token]

i would think

[hazy rain]

but I don't like Juneau

[vague token]

you must protec juneau

xD

[hazy rain]

really waiting for Saint Louis for a chad vanguard

[vague token]

so like, saint louis is a french ship for faction buffs right?

even though she is unlocked through eagle union

?

[hazy rain]

I think so

[vague token]

=/

[lament lichen]

saint louis uses USS boats to unlock

[vague token]

yeah but she doesnt help with eagle union based effects

[lament lichen]

yeah

[vague token]

=////

[lament lichen]

shes w/e the french one is

[vague token]

i was thinking about essex/namagi with triple eagle

but that makes the CA slot really limited

guess i could just go back to minne cause she's my favorite xD

[hazy rain]

sigh

[vague token]

sup

[hazy rain]

I guess I'll go Yukikaze Belfast Juneau

[vague token]

xD

too bad urukaze or whoever she was with the weird juneau skill isnt 100%

would be hilarious to run that too

[ionic magnet]

lol same took me 4 hrs to get a +1

peeps too busy on event

[hazy rain]

would Mogami be cool for PvP? at least I force them to use something different than Aurora

[lament lichen]

people cant give me a +1 on my list after they pushed

[hazy rain]

Mogami gets Nogato buff

[vague token]

is mogami any tankier than port? xD

[hazy rain]

ofc not

[vague token]

i guess she does more damage

[hazy rain]

she gets 80 EVA at 120

no idea at 110

[vague token]

where's the gold steering wheel when we need it

or was it washing machine

i cant remember anymore

oh it was washing machine

xD

[hazy rain]

I want a gold telescope

[vague token]

which one is that

[vague token]

oh god

[hazy rain]

[vague token]

the world isnt ready for that kind of power

and the game might melt on those MGM+1 destroyers

lol

infinity reload go

[hazy rain]

make it full meme and even deal less damage per shell

but highest reload

[vague token]

make poi great again

unlimited torpedo barrage

oh i never realized portland's luck was so high

[shy hazel]

can u ppl access b2 now

[hazy rain]

I've read there's even a timer on when it will open

I'm on C2 mining duckguns

[midnight heron]

opens in 12.5hrs iirc

[shy hazel]

im usin test version so i have access

dunno bout u ppl

lol

[hazy rain]

how can we join test version?

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

still on a4 xD

[shy hazel]

this is prolly a bug on our side

gotta report

[random vault]

test version? nani

[midnight heron]

im beta tester as well but i cant even access b maps 😮

[shy hazel]

srsly

thats weird

[random vault]

show us some sneak peeks

[random vault]

damn

what are devs doing

[vague token]

they trying

they work very hard for us (pve) ;)

no bulli

[shy hazel]

i live in the future

[midnight heron]

inb4 changing ur device clock works

[random vault]

anyone gonna try that? for research

woah

i can enter d maps now

the fuck

[shy hazel]

so phone timer?

[random vault]

no i didnt change anything

i login like 5 mins ago?

[coral wren]

Send screenshot

[random vault]

whats going on

[shy hazel]

i guess they timed it wrong

[random vault]

ill try restarting just to ensure i aint dreaming rofl

[leaden sequoia]

I just entered part 2 cutscenes as well

aaand I'm seeing the same as the screenshot above

[coral wren]

Oh u are right

I relogged

And i can wnter d too

[leaden sequoia]

I can, but I don't want to

just in case if something blows up

[random vault]

lmao

im gonna wait until after reset anyway, to reset comms

[midnight heron]

damn insects messing with the game

[shy hazel]

[coral wren]

This makes sense tho

24 hour countdown is way too long

This is more like it

Following the fw gate too

Amount of time

[leaden sequoia]

I mean, WC opened 36 hours after server reset of the event day

so I thought ISSS will be like that too

[random vault]

this is new territory

considering the potato devs we have idk what to expect

[shy hazel]

im just grindung b1

so can open hard maos fast

and x2 daily bonus

[random vault]

lol yea i forgot that

but i dont think i can finish a run in 10 mins with my potato net

gonna wait

[zenith tundra]

1981 5/10 for who still cares about this season

[shy hazel]

u way higher than me now

[lament lichen]

season so messed up

didnt see kamita anywhere

[zenith tundra]

i had kamita in my list once

at 9/10 2nd from right

[lament lichen]

hm

[vague token]

[lament lichen]

oh wtf im ahead of famine

[zenith tundra]

rip 1 hm attempt...

[leaden sequoia]

come on Zack, don't leave hm for the end of the day

[vague token]

you're supposed to do them all right now!

jk

[zenith tundra]

played for 6hrs after isss started then had to sleep and then go to work... i wanted to do them earlier but stuff happened at work and forgot till 4mins left

[hybrid tendon]

lul

dead tree

fucking sylvanas done it again

[coral wren]

What's the best equipment/loadout for nagato?

[hot creek]

definitely 381

and probably Beaver/SG or FCR

at least until shells come

[vague token]

sooner she shoots the better

[midnight heron]

pardon me but ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[coral wren]

is A65M zero even good

[zenith tundra]

imo 381 belgun>127 bofor hsfcr sg>beaver. 127 for nakaga and beaver if u dont have anyone else to give it to

[idle python]

381 belgun roomba fcr beaver

[zenith tundra]

aint that wrote as konnichiha? since the ha is spelled wa?

[coral wren]

F4U or reppu for enti?

[idle python]

Corsair

Assuming it's the gold one

[zenith tundra]

vf-17 has highest launch speed and dmg no reason not to use it

fake weeb then

[coral wren]

wwww

What's a good fighter for akagi?

[zenith tundra]

vf-17 or reppu. vf-17 is better for foxes mirror, reppu for aa bait

[versed atlas]

another day of no nagato

[ionic magnet]

105 rolls in, no kawa no naga

[versed atlas]

wow, you're even unluckier than i was

i've got 2x kawakaze

but i'd honestly just retire both if i could get cubes from it to try again for nagato

[ionic magnet]

kawakaze is fine she can drop in event maps

nagato tho

[sharp obsidian]

@ionic magnet , keep the faith up! Our PvP Goddess will come for you

[red nexus]

[stark raft]

Anything we can use right now to fight nakaga? no wasda/akagi so do I just reset a lot now?

Yeah I guess my HMS can have fun for now

Still working on Jesus to 110 lol so I have lots of time

I could try ws/hood sniping 1 fox to atleast get an edge while bel/shef/jesus tank it out

[buoyant parrot]

@balmy torrent you're wrong PhoenixF's Nagato is already Oathed

lol scary

[buoyant parrot]

Wakyu

[coral wren]

yikes, those collabs are getting worse and worse

[zenith tundra]

i dont think a collab can be worse then neptunia... so many ships to draw and none are good

[stark raft]

it's there for exposure and ijn bias any collab is better than none

[grave gale]

hopefully she's a freebie and not a gacha

[hybrid tendon]

just use your own nakaga

also kizuna boat is probably going to be bad

wrong

all the research botes

are collab

[stark raft]

if her skill activation line isn't "fakyu" why even bother with her

[hybrid tendon]

fakyu in my family friendly game?

there are children here you know

like me

im 12

[stark raft]

yeah everyone using nagato is being added to an fbi list