#pvp

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crude tiger
gaunt chasm
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when you cant do anything else.. you pray

hot creek
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well, what do you have?

crude tiger
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This is my PvP fleet, gonna sub Cleve for Jint/Nanoda once they are done levelling

lament lichen
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Do you not hqve juneau

crude tiger
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I have her

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Not 100lv

gaunt chasm
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sometimes i wonder why i cant get in top 1k even with amakaga laffeyDrink

lament lichen
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What boats do you have that are leveled

crude tiger
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uhh

coral wren
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Juneau just dies and heals nothing else

crude tiger
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let me screenshot

leaden jay
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Get foxes...?

crude tiger
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@lament lichen

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jint at lvl 94

coral wren
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You have foxes, why not net deck

crude tiger
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their foxes are better

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i keep losing while trying to mirror

lament lichen
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Doesnt matter if they are better sara and enty are holding you back more in this matchup

crude tiger
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actually

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i can win against amakaga with my current fleet

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just not reliably

coral wren
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I can't win realiably either

crude tiger
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heavily reliant that sara doesn't die and can launch her 2nd airstrike with her skill + enty always procs E

coral wren
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Gotta reset like 5-10 times

silver root
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yuki helps a ton

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for me

crude tiger
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i'm thinking of subbing cleve for yuki

gaunt chasm
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ever just have amagi refuse to fire barrage even after 3 times shelling? laffeyDrink

crude tiger
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maybe get the cranes

coral wren
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cranes aren't good in PvP though

lament lichen
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Take out laffey or cleve for yukikaze

coral wren
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They take too long to stack damage

crude tiger
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oh

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damn

lament lichen
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Dunno what lvl your juneauโ€™s heal is

crude tiger
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lvl 1

silver root
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yeah idk how effective clevebro is in pvp

coral wren
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Honestly Laffey does so much damage even in PvP for me

crude tiger
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cleve dies last

coral wren
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20k sometimes

crude tiger
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for me

lament lichen
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You probably want aurora

coral wren
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Yeah...

crude tiger
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true

coral wren
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Can't get her

crude tiger
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but

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ouch

lament lichen
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Thats fine

gaunt chasm
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the important skill is the yellow one anyways laffeyDrink

lament lichen
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She only need to live long enough for the first air strike

crude tiger
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def can't win against a mirror

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peeps at high ranks are like

lament lichen
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But its more on your gear

crude tiger
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my gear is all the best

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+9-+10 rec

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but at high rank

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their gear is similar

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plus my akagi is only at aff 107

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can hms win against amakaga?

lament lichen
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Its only 3%

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Amakaga generally always wins in the mirrorp

coral wren
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I tried HMS got salughtered

gaunt chasm
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if i have belfast takao and aurora how should i arrange them?

crude tiger
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bel > auro > takao or takao > auro > bel

lament lichen
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Takao front bel mid aurora back

crude tiger
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depending on gear

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esp if you have pearl's tear

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pearls tear up front btw

gaunt chasm
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i have pearl's tear on aurora normally

crude tiger
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give it to bel

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since she's lead tank

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amakaga is so annoying

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god

coral wren
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Will this get worse with Nagato?

gaunt chasm
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aight, so torp bulge n kit on aurora..
pearls and bulge on belfast and oxy torp and beaver on takao. thats fine right?

crude tiger
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idk, amagi has better overall skills for pvp imo

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ageless phoenix - enemy offense stats

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blue skill increase eva and dec fire dmg

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and her barrage can hit all 3 backlaners

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better than hood basically

coral wren
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Nagato has big ass gun though

gaunt chasm
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nagato will buff CV's laffeyDrink akaga's strike will hurt more

crude tiger
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actually

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north carol backlane

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vs akaga

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would that work?

coral wren
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US beats it

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But you need Essex

crude tiger
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aw

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her air strike reduction damage is pretty enticing

coral wren
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PvP is pretty rigged

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Just gotta reset lots

silver root
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if u have north cal shouldnt u has washsd?

crude tiger
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i only got sodak recently

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washington's barrage is less impressive than amagi's

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and overall i've beaten all washsd without trouble

coral wren
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They tank air

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It's meant as a counter strat

silver root
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sd + wash + soiryuu usually beats amakaga

coral wren
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don't have that one yet

crude tiger
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how does that beat amakaga

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amakaga shreds that

lament lichen
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Sd\washi/amagi beats amakaga alot

silver root
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thats just from what i seen

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i started after amagi event so all i have is enty + lusty and praying to rngsus for lucky e against amakaga

clear cloud
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defend is meme

crude tiger
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some people take their defense so seriously

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i've seen 14k + 14k fleets

lament lichen
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14k front line is actually easy to kill

coral wren
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Does defense actually do anything?

gaunt chasm
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mutsukiStare highest ive seen in 14k + 13k

crude tiger
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frontline in general is easy to kill

lament lichen
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Having a defense is just there to stall

crude tiger
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actually hms frontline is hard to kill

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smokes + evasion

gaunt chasm
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belfast always survive the longest in my pvp fleet somehow..

crude tiger
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where do you put her

gaunt chasm
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front lol

crude tiger
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my belfast dies frist

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maybe it's the gear

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pearl + torp bulge

gaunt chasm
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rn i have bel > aurora > taco

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ah.. i gave her oxy torp and beaver AkagiLul

coral wren
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is sendai actually good?

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her flare seems yikes

vague token
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sendai is more of an investment

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for when we get pr cas

lament lichen
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Depends on your team really

coral wren
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amakga with jinbtsuu aurora

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so its not really needed atm?

lament lichen
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You dont really need her

vague token
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i mean aurora is usually enough

coral wren
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since I feel if enemy Vanguard is fast enough. her flare is basicly useless

lament lichen
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She just guarantee the kills in the flare

coral wren
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too rng <.<

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ok ty. I will try something else

lament lichen
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It was more for nakaga anyways

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Rng fest

gaunt chasm
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wait tears should go front..

lament lichen
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Honestly i would put takao in front

velvet fossil
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put bulge on bel instead of camo

gaunt chasm
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aight, also why takao front?

velvet fossil
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do you have anyone besides taco?

lament lichen
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I prefer belfast to live longer than a CA

gaunt chasm
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leveling up ykk, need one more purin for mlb

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even with bel infront she still survive longest somehow...

coral wren
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You can run juneau for heal

velvet fossil
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yeah juneau would be great

gaunt chasm
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i dont have her trained

velvet fossil
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maybe portkai or jin or something

gaunt chasm
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ok so, taco > bel > aurora for now?

lament lichen
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Replacing takao means yiu lose amagi cd reduction

gaunt chasm
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dont have jint, dont have portkai trained warShrug

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i could replace taco with aya tho

coral wren
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Run aya or yuki for that 4th

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jintsuu too

velvet fossil
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you dont really need taco ever

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unless the fleets youre going against arent too difficult

gaunt chasm
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ik, just have her for the sake of it.. i cant get past top 1k

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washington entyLUL

velvet fossil
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me too AYAYAyanami

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you shouldnt have too much trouble then in washy

coral wren
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I am washy too

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I got top 100

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with shit gear

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Just lots of reset

velvet fossil
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a lot of ppl in our server run really weird fleets

gaunt chasm
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see this is why im confused..

velvet fossil
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so its not that hard to beat em

coral wren
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I was stuck below 100 for many seasons

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This is the only season I broke through

gaunt chasm
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my rank is 1785 rn

velvet fossil
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if i sandbag casually and maybe even miss 1 or 2 exercise i can still get aotn

coral wren
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I relog once a reset

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don't do any more than that

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what is sandbag?

gaunt chasm
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wait till last moments b4 reset

coral wren
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Doesn't that only work for the first opponent?

lament lichen
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Its where you purposly have others use their attempts and farm extra points off them

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No

coral wren
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It works for all 5 opponents?

lament lichen
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You can get it as long as the score difference between you is a certain amount

velvet fossil
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the way points work in pvp is the larger the gap between ur points and ur opponent, u receive more points from a win, and when u close and reopen the game, ur opponent list updates

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so u just wait until someone in ur list attacks

vague token
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points, not rank btw

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rank means nothing except to guesstimate their points xD

coral wren
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Yeah but you have to relog 5 times

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each time you fight

velvet fossil
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usually ppl just relog every hour

gaunt chasm
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how do you know their points tho?

velvet fossil
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to check

vague token
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you dont, but you can guess

coral wren
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Too much work

vague token
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like

lament lichen
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You can check their scores if they are top 100 thou

coral wren
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I just do it once

velvet fossil
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i mean yeah for a server like washy we dont rly need to tryhard

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to get aotn

vague token
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also if you see their rank go up between log in

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you know they used matches

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xD

gaunt chasm
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i still cant do it longcryland

velvet fossil
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just focus on getting as much pts as u can at beginning of season

coral wren
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1000 is easy now

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Just not 100

velvet fossil
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then from then on to end of season just wait til last 30min to do ur matches

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ive been doing this for a while now in washy and it hasnt failed me yet

coral wren
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I lose some matches though

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cuz I pay no attention

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Also I have to reset opponents sometimes since I can't beat any

coral wren
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I am at 1473

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Did you lose matches?

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I lost like 3

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maybe 5

gaunt chasm
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yea i lost like one or two

coral wren
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Isn't it better to fight not the left guy if you can't win

velvet fossil
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once u get ur fleet up and running it'll g et much easier

gaunt chasm
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should i yuki or aya? to replace taco. i might replace bel too

coral wren
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Idk why but Laffey has been putting in work

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sometimes dealing more than my backline

gaunt chasm
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also when nagato is out would it be preferable to have a full IJN fleet or still have aurora in?

coral wren
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are you gona use nagato?

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People said amagi is better

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so Idk

gaunt chasm
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hopefully i'll get her

lament lichen
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you can just run both

velvet fossil
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we'll definitely see nagato amagi hiryuu fleets too

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on defense

coral wren
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Hiryuu is not kai though

gaunt chasm
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running both means semi wasting her barrage tho.. amagi's

velvet fossil
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still good for stalling

coral wren
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amagi barrages snipe parallel

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so you can still kill whatever is on that lane

velvet fossil
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amagi's barrage can still hit enemy vg sometimes even if shes not flagship

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but yeah that'd be a hard def fleet to beat

coral wren
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hiryuu has the skill non kai?

lament lichen
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she has final counter

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kai gives her a plane barrage skill

shy hazel
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wow i get no bonuses this time

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karma for flexing highest points

zenith tundra
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i got +4 so far this reset mutsukiStare

hot creek
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i assume you went back to 10/10?

zenith tundra
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i did go back to 10/10 when weekend ended

shy hazel
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she too noisy though

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๐Ÿ‘€

vague token
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i mean

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she gets a lot of airstrikes

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she has problems against wasda sometimes cause they have dat aa

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but against akaga, getting 3 airstrikes in 2 airstrike time period is strong

zenith tundra
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i wouldnt use her against wasda in namagi so it doesnt matter tbh

vague token
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yeah

versed atlas
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so what kind of pvp setup should i expect once nagato drops?

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as in, what's the 3rd backline ship for pvp?

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first two are obviously nagato and amagi

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hahaha oh wait, you guys discussed this exact topic

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yeah, i was thinking hiryuu too

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would kaga (BB) be any good?

coral wren
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i dont think kaga bb would be a good option

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well if u want to rely on her barrage that is

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Hiryuu without Kai is still good?

knotty parcel
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Yes

zenith tundra
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still very good and 100% safe to run since u have 15 secs to pause reset if u need to. her dmg is ok and she's good counter to akaga

coral wren
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That means I gotta train her

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rip

knotty parcel
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Yes cause when kai hits you want her anyway so

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Better now than later

zenith tundra
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kaga bb should be inferior choice to hyuuga kai for 3rd spot but idk how much dmg hyuuga kai does. kaga is ok against bb since her torp can actually hit static ships in backlines and if her barrage procs her dmg is really good

hybrid tendon
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Kaga BB has higher raw stats and damage

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If you are running namagi

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Probably just g for hyuuga kai

zenith tundra
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u run hyuuga to boost nagato and amagi dmg

hybrid tendon
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That should be awhile

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Getting nagato to 110 200 affection

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Is not that fast

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Not to mention 10 skills

coral wren
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you don't even know man

zenith tundra
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im gonna use nagato as soon as she hits lvl 95+

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amagi hiryuu should be enough to carry against amakaga

hybrid tendon
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Tbh nagato is a GREAT unit

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But not imbalanced

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Unlike fucking ws

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Super unfair unit

coral wren
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who dat?

lament lichen
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warspite retro

coral wren
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For PvP?

lament lichen
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yes

shy hazel
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if i have time and if i do it like amagi

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nagato should be 110 in 5 days

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๐Ÿ‘€

hybrid tendon
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What about 10 skills

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Do you have enough red books

shy hazel
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wont use hiryuu prolly so red should br pvl 8

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at that point

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i never run out of books

hybrid tendon
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I never have books

shy hazel
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optimal ships i always use t3

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t2 on plebs

coral wren
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Not enough

zenith tundra
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i use t2 all the time on filling ships

shy hazel
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t3 when im sleeping too

coral wren
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almost non of my skills ar emaxed

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they're all at 8

zenith tundra
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t2 during day t3 over night

shy hazel
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buy basic books then craft to t2

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dunno i never run out

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lol

lament lichen
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never run out of books

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always stuck with t2 and t1 books

shy hazel
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though i also run 8 hour merchant books

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we need another event like fw or wc

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fo the shitgood books bps abd plates

zenith tundra
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i remember using like 95% t3 on amagi skills i got her max as fast as i could

coral wren
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I am not hardcore enough to max

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8 is as far as I go

lament lichen
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well you only need one t2 , one t1, then the rest t3 to max a skill

coral wren
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Unless it's tier 0 ships like amagi

shy hazel
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if u properly time books with your sleep

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3k book exp per 24 hours

coral wren
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I don't have enough books to max

shy hazel
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5 days is enuf to lvl 10

zenith tundra
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if u don't have books i can see not macing skills but really no reason to not max otherwise

coral wren
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Only got like 20 t3 books of each kind

shy hazel
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just rushing for that one week im the only maxed nagato advantage

lament lichen
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thats more than enough to max a skill

shy hazel
zenith tundra
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i have like 15 t3 red but who cares

coral wren
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I mean it's enough for 1 ship

shy hazel
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for pvp

coral wren
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But I tend to level a lot of different ships

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since around 7 is pretty optimal

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in terms of books

shy hazel
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i never stop ny academy

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lol

coral wren
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Yeah me neither

shy hazel
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i also buy book my medal exchange

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especially red and yellow

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got shittons of blue

zenith tundra
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i always focus on good ships 1st then just wnd up leveling filler ships all tye time pretty much

coral wren
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but what are filler hsips though

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Everything I level are top tier

lament lichen
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boats that have a niche use

shy hazel
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ships that are semi good in pvp

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or pve

lament lichen
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i always have chaser in there for subs

versed atlas
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i started leveling my hiryuu agaion

coral wren
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I still don't have akaga maxed

zenith tundra
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@versed atlas good choice

versed atlas
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but it's gonna take a while to get to 110 from 100

zenith tundra
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it took me more to get her to 200 affection then from 100 to 110

versed atlas
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i dont have rings anyway

gaunt chasm
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my hiryuu is only level 50 laffeyDrink

versed atlas
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i cobbled together enough gems to get that 2 ring pack when it was cheap

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used one on amagi and saved the other for when nagato comes

coral wren
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My hiryuu is 58 lol

versed atlas
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original i had unfortunately used on enterprise way back when

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well, maybe not unfortunately

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she's definitely not useless

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and in terms of looks she's the one i'd want to ring the most, because i think her default skin is terrible

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i hate that hat

vague token
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110 hiryuu sandyMeme

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but now im a sara main

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xD

gaunt chasm
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i use taco just so im only half meta laffeyDrink

versed atlas
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also why does 99 -> 100 take more xp than 109 -> 110

cerulean estuary
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kochidayo intensifies

gaunt chasm
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5/6 meta anyways

coral wren
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Unless you want top 100 doesn't matter

versed atlas
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do you guys think mogami might be good?

coral wren
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I get top 100 for the points anyways

gaunt chasm
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mogkai is good for mobbing iirc. not so much in pvp

coral wren
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not for glory

versed atlas
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why not though?

shy hazel
versed atlas
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isn't mogami tankier than belfast?

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or at least comparable

vague token
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lol

shy hazel
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oh i just realized my hyuuga isnt maxed yet

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i generally max skill all,ships i use most cos ocd

vague token
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working on hyuuga to 110 atm

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just in case

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well she's good for pve anyways even if i dont use her

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xD

versed atlas
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man

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i'm so starved for books

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except blue books

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i should level barrage first on nagato, right?

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that way i can level her up faster so i can get her into pvp faster

lament lichen
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barrage first

versed atlas
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if you don't get nagato from the event, do you just quit pvp?

shy hazel
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what a dumb question

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ill whale until i get nagato

knotty parcel
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I never missed a ship

shy hazel
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if not i might as well quit the game

versed atlas
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i almost missed shoukaku in the last event

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and that icnreases my chance of missing nagato

zenith tundra
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i'll quit mobile games if i don't get nagato

coral wren
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Not happening

versed atlas
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i could easily quit mobile games, i've done it before

shy hazel
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i have 350 cubes

hot creek
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I quit life if I don't get nagato smugBucky

shy hazel
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10k gems

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what could go wrong

hot creek
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just kidding i never had a life anyways

coral wren
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You won't need it

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You'll get it within 100 cubes

shy hazel
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if the gems fail me

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time to you know

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chargeback quit the game

coral wren
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98% chance you'll get within 400 cubes

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So unless you're into some real voodoo magic

hot creek
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raid yostar HQ and demand them in person

shy hazel
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fyi

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i spent 401 cubes

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for hatsushitmo

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alone

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anything can go wrong really

coral wren
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nah

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I've gotten all the shit I wanted within 100 cubes so far

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Just do 3 builds a day

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don't rush

shy hazel
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i cant use all cubes fast anyways

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i buy cubes but not gold

coral wren
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There ya go

hot creek
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i got everything every event within like 50 cubes. until yukikaze, bitch took me 250 cubes

coral wren
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3 builds a day

shy hazel
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only 15k gold rn

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lol

coral wren
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100 cubes

zenith tundra
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not gonna wait 2 weeks to get nagato 3 builds per day.... either day 1 or whale

coral wren
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That's why we hear about the tragedies

hot creek
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day 1 baybeee. powercreep ship can't afford to wait

coral wren
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You have to have patience

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or else

zenith tundra
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im stacking gold rn 77k just in storage

hot creek
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seriously I was getting triggered seeing all the yukikaze secretaries in pvp

coral wren
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I started playing on the first day of crimson

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Thought I wouldn't get Amagi

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Just did 3 builds a day and got her eventually

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patience

zenith tundra
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nagato is one of the ships i wanted from when i started playing like a personal goal

coral wren
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Same

knotty parcel
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Same dw

coral wren
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But can't get impatient

analog hare
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reason to play AL = Nagato

lament lichen
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im still waiting for that nagato sleepwear tweet

coral wren
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Many degens

vague token
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o.O

midnight heron
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dont mean to be rude but getting all desired event ships from 3 builds a day just means u're lucky af

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not everyone has that kinda luck

lament lichen
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its still doable

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i done it on JP

coral wren
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Spamming is worse man

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I usually do like 40 or so on first day

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see what I get

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and then go from there

knotty parcel
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I use everything day one

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Can't wait

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It's the same anyway

lament lichen
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thing is most of us have surpluss of cubes or gold

coral wren
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You actually don't have the gold to do that anyways

knotty parcel
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I do

midnight heron
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i used to subscribe to the 3build a day theory till i kept missing ships

coral wren
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you need 200k gold to spend 400 cubes

knotty parcel
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I have 200k rn

coral wren
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I can't afford to waste any regen

analog hare
zenith tundra
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my cubes are barelly 275 rn cause stupid monty and subs

hot creek
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can farm that much in like four days ez

lament lichen
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gold isnt used as much once you maxed out the stuff you need

coral wren
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so I keep my gold under 50k

knotty parcel
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Gold's uselrss

coral wren
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Only late game

knotty parcel
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When you retrofitted everything

coral wren
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I am not there yet

zenith tundra
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hyuuga retro is coming too and i need her too

coral wren
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Idk about my luck honestly

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I sat in 3-4 for over 600 runs

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So it's all rng

lament lichen
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uh i stayed in 3-4 till i was commander lvl 70 so

coral wren
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I was 75

zenith tundra
#

i didnt bother with 3-4 at the beginning

coral wren
#

ALso I never build anything unless I actually want it

#

so never built during china event

#

never built for subs

zenith tundra
#

i have yet to miss 1 limited ship

coral wren
#

I don't care about collection %

#

I am already missing a shit load anyways

zenith tundra
#

collection % i dont care either. all i want is every ship in my dock

coral wren
#

I only really care if I will use the ship

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or it looks nice

#

Otherwise it's w/e

#

Like I didn't try to build victorious cuz I'll never use her

zenith tundra
#

i got vicky before sirius and sheffield

coral wren
#

I didn't even care about sirius that much

#

Just did the 3x build

#

Only spammed until I got sheffy

zenith tundra
#

sirius is goos tho

coral wren
#

Yeah, I was thinking of spamming more on the last day if I didn't get her

#

For me it's about picking the battles I guess

#

Cubes is always gona be around 20 or so a week

zenith tundra
#

most ppl here are hardcore pvp players so nagato that's gonna rule pvp till ws kai is like a mandatory ship

coral wren
#

Yeah I am most likely spamming for nagato until I run out of gold

#

It's a personal thing

#

Been waiting for this since I started playing

#

I just got aurora should I put her in pvp fleet?

coral wren
#

Lol kaga bb?

zenith tundra
#

yes

hot creek
#

what how is that decent

#

VG underleveled as fuck

zenith tundra
#

i know but still 14k main fleet

#

better then nothing tbh

coral wren
#

Need more oath

zenith tundra
#

my kaga bb full hp and my amagi almost full too

#

gotta say something

coral wren
#

Run belfast or Aurora?

hot creek
#

as good as nothing. wasdA only works if their junuea doesn't get whacked in 2 seconds.

#

and an underleveled VG is not gonna help with that

zenith tundra
#

it didnt get wreckt in 2 secs... have u see my backlines?

#

hiryuu launches at 22secs

#

amagi top

#

how would i kill vg before 20secs?

#

my is also trash with jesus and lvl 105 belfast

hot creek
#

oh, just assumed you were using foxes.

zenith tundra
#

lol

gaunt chasm
#

if you dont use aurora against an aurora. youre at a disadvantage isnt it thinkpitz

lament lichen
#

No lol

zenith tundra
#

if u dont use aurora with akaga u are at a disadvantage

coral wren
#

You guys put different fleets for attack and defend?

hot creek
#

Aurora on defense is kind of bad imo. she too squishy and I've found that non aurora torp fleets can still easily fuck you up if bad RNG.

edgy sparrow
#

how do i get vice admiral?

zenith tundra
#

there is a guide in pins with the ranks

gaunt chasm
#

i put different fleet, a non mlbed ykk on defense replacing taco on offense

hot creek
#

wasdA is my defense and I use foxes for offense.

edgy sparrow
#

is just only me didn't use wasdA?

coral wren
#

I don't have washington

gaunt chasm
#

i joined during CE, dont have washington warShrug

coral wren
#

We started same day pretty much

edgy sparrow
#

CE?

gaunt chasm
#

crimson echoes

coral wren
#

I started first day of CE

edgy sparrow
#

oh

zenith tundra
#

i dont use wasda because i prefer ijn comps

coral wren
#

Untill Essex

zenith tundra
#

easex only works against nakaga i don't rwally see her that good against namagi

#

and don't get me wrong essex is one of the 3 cvs i like the most with sara and centaur

hot creek
#

essex is a qt, ima ring her. why must I punish myself by ringing ships I like instead meta ones longcryland

coral wren
#

such is life

zenith tundra
#

essex stacking doesn't even proc against non cv comps

#

+2 already... wtf is my luck this 2 last resets

edgy sparrow
#

i prefer BC + E

zenith tundra
#

what do u mean by bc + e?

edgy sparrow
zenith tundra
#

idk why u would use laffey in pvp but whatever

analog hare
#

meme power fleet GWqlabsFeelsFunnyMan

midnight heron
hidden wyvernBOT
#

Sorry, Summoner! That command is out of date. Try .$ or .$$$. ๐Ÿ˜Š

gaunt chasm
unkempt swallow
#

Does this work for pvp?

#

Ignore the low power I have shitty gear

ionic magnet
#

yes

#

can't guarantee after peeps get nagato tho

unkempt swallow
#

Imma have to change it up after Nagato

#

Wonโ€™t full IJN be more common?

ionic magnet
#

not really full

#

prolly 4 ijns

#

at most 5

unkempt swallow
#

I see Nagato + floofs with jintsuu Sendai and aya

ionic magnet
#

juneau/belfast/aurora are still good so

unkempt swallow
#

But then whoโ€™s the third backline?

ionic magnet
#

not really a fan of sendai and aya but yea definitely another option

unkempt swallow
#

She donโ€™t have her kai yet

#

Hiryuu

ionic magnet
#

hiryuu is still good even with no kai

unkempt swallow
#

Hm

#

I have a lvl 100 hiryuu for retro

#

Might use her

#

I raised her for the retro

#

But now I can use her when Nagato comes out

trail elm
#

if you have a full Amakaga fleet, you could temporarily shift to Nagato-Amagi-Akagi. Make use of the Preemptive Strike skill at least

#

keyword here is you have a relatively maxed akagi. why not use her as a transitional while raising your final piece?

#

that is, if you just want to stay IJN. you could still nab Saratoga or Enterprise if you need a non-IJN CV

#

oh, okay then. just mentioning that here, honestly

modern tree
#

leveling up backliners is really easy so it should never be a problem

#

between ykkz and columbia/any other flagship protecc, you can probably run solo backliners anywhere below w9

#

so yea, getting from 1-110 is like maybe a week if you are lazy

zenith tundra
#

if its a bb that can easily carry herself it takes way leas then that

trim horizon
#

D o you guys farm maxaffection for the 12% stat ?

zenith tundra
#

for cv u can solo run them in lower worlds. i leveled up my hiryuu in 7-2 easy enough

#

if i oath a ship is for the 12% stat boost

modern tree
#

I generally oath ships I use except for SD so yeah, all of them are at 200 affection

#

It sort of gets there all on its own

#

man, another person added me in game for pvp advice, this is whack

modern tree
#

2 and 4

#

2 of 113 and 4 of bofors

#

should give you close to optimal aa for most setups

#

unless you are using carriers than just one 113 and fill everything else with bofors probably

leaden jay
#

Okay, guess I'll farm more Bofers

shy hazel
#

ce gave me one and a half

zenith tundra
#

i'd rather farm 5-4 then 11-3. no point in wasting so much oil

shy hazel
#

11-3 if he has no sendai yet

#

might as well

buoyant parrot
#

how come #pvp is more on general topic than #al-general people there are like most of the time degenerates... sigh

shy hazel
#

this is technically the general for people whos actually playing

buoyant parrot
#

anywho... do we have any skill list already for Shimakaze??? or any datamine thingy?

shy hazel
#

shes gonna be released for the ps4 first

#

lol

zenith tundra
#

i know nothing of what i suppose are new pr ships

shy hazel
#

its not gonna be our business for awhile anyways

buoyant parrot
#

sigh Is the ships from the PS4 game are there skills similar to what we have here in mobile?

shy hazel
#

theres not rly details on that yet

#

lol

buoyant parrot
#

oohhh so not even skills no details for PS4 game

shy hazel
#

the playable chars list is alrdy released though

#

partially

zenith tundra
#

playing al on ps4 and it's the same thing thinkpitz

buoyant parrot
#

but skill wise no info yet? right?

shy hazel
#

release date is august

#

for japan

#

none

buoyant parrot
shy hazel
#

en version if theres gonna be one

#

should taje awhile

#

i can read jap so i can just play

buoyant parrot
#

let us know if skills are pretty much the same

#

coz if it is, we already know what's coming for us

shy hazel
#

its ps4 only

#

i dont have one yet lol

buoyant parrot
#

__>

shy hazel
#

im a nintendo fan

buoyant parrot
#

go steal your friends PS4 then

zenith tundra
#

not gonna buy a ps4 for a half-assed al game

buoyant parrot
#

or buy me the game, I'll go streaming and tell me what to do lol

shy hazel
#

unless rune factory 5 becomes ps4 game

buoyant parrot
#

its like you who will be playing but im controling

shy hazel
#

or harvest moon

buoyant parrot
shy hazel
#

no touvh

zenith tundra
#

i wouldn't buy nintendo consoles... there are emulators and for ps4 mostly of the stuff is released for pc too so rip consoles

unkempt swallow
#

Over here with my switch

#

Which I bought just to play smash

shy hazel
#

last offtopic but

#

ill buy switch at rune factory 5 release

#

mmmm

#

got nagato in my super pleb jp accnt

#

she seems hard to grind abit

edgy jetty
#

How to get 14.3K power in vanguard thinkpitz

split socket
#

bel aya jin has pretty high power, u can reach 14,3k with them if u equip at least 3x rainbow oxytorp although I don't recommend doing it

edgy jetty
#

@split socket why ? Too unbalanced? Without beaver ?

split socket
#

because you lose too much hp when u sacrifice the aux slots for the extra torp stats. In the current meta, the main damage dealers are ur backline, torp front is nice and all but they need to be able to stick around long enough to be able to protect ur backline

#

being alive also means more dps done, no use having super high torp stats if ur dead

zenith tundra
#

finally isss confirmed this week

vague token
#

i just realized sirius boosts the accuracy of cv guns

#

based on the wording

#

or it should

modern tree
#

that sounds extremly relevant

vague token
#

it isnt but it's nice for sara if true

#

too bad houshou has 0 fp

modern tree
#

I am pretty sure Sara can't miss

vague token
#

ill look closely

#

xD

#

sadly she misses the shot direction all the time

modern tree
#

not in the game mechanic sense, she misses a lot in the "shooting in the way opposite of the enemy" way

vague token
#

she needs glasses

#

yeah

#

i dont get why the shots split in 1 salvo too

#

like what is this wild targeting

#

why arent they parallel like literally every other CA gun X_x

#

oh yeah it misses

#

at least on things like smoke

#

and amagi buff

#

it might have default 100

real notch
#

what are you guys gonna run for namagi 3rd ship

#

all the current options should be: hiryuu, enterprise, hood, dork

modern tree
#

Hyuukai

vague token
#

id rather run sara over enterprise

#

in this era

real notch
#

btw nagato CV buff doesn't include BBV

vague token
#

yeah

real notch
#

only CVL/CV

vague token
#

because of the way it works backend

#

it just gives CV/CVL a damage boost im pretty sure

#

so it would boost BBV guns

real notch
#

well it says so in the skill description soooOo

vague token
#

oh yeah, i mean like the reasoning

#

xD

#

presumably it would also buff Houshou's gun damage

#

IF SHE HAD ANY

real notch
#

wait, was nagato big seven proc always 40%?

vague token
#

all big sevens are 40

#

but when big seven sakura triggers

#

it murders everything

#

unlike standard

#

xD

#

just use baga for more coin flips

real notch
#

dafuq, i coulda sworn sakura big sevens were higher than USS big sevens...

#

like procrate

vague token
#

(and hms big seven)

real notch
#

guess i was wrong BlobSweatButFast

vague token
#

are there any other sakura cvs with damage sources that arent planes

#

i think it's just houshou

real notch
#

maybe dork might be good, since slowing down VGs would make it much easier for shit to hit

vague token
#

dork doesnt slow vgs

#

dork uses warspite rules

real notch
#

nani

vague token
#

LOL

modern tree
#

0lb Langley has a gun smugBucky

vague token
#

langley isnt sakura

#

she doesnt get buffed by nagato

real notch
#

no way, i thought that barrage hit VGs

modern tree
#

also, welcome to AL Req, enjoy your stay

real notch
vague token
#

yeah dork uses her Normal Ammo Quads

#

to shoot at the farthest target

#

Normal

#

Quads

#

she misses less than warspite at least

real notch
#

well shit

vague token
#

xD

real notch
#

hiryuu then?

#

enterprise would be good too

#

enterprise is always good as last slot

vague token
#

hyuuga kai would be what i would use

#

if i was an ijn purist

#

but im a mix fleet (except hms =/)

#

hmm yeah ijn has no gun or torp cv skills

#

rip

real notch
#

maybe hyuuga yea

#

i would have to see her PVP performance first but

#

hiryuu without kai would be depressing to use

coral wren
#

:l is it weird that hiryuu foxes works better for me

#

vs amakaga

#

hiryuu 109 104 103 vs 110 amakaga

modern tree
#

probably not, because plane suicide damage is way too much pressure for soft foxes protected by evasion, which doesnt do much

coral wren
#

I see

#

cus I cant I just cant

#

handle the

#

uhm

#

sweats I get?

#

like this

#

both sides low hp

#

both side can be wiped o ut

#

from one airstrike

#

and I dont really use amakaga so I dont really know who will kill other first

#

but with hiryuu its super gucci

#

even if enemy vg are alive they will die from final counter

vague token
#

that is a yikes

coral wren
#

and this is with hiryuu LeanderXD

#

their vg killed mine first

#

and then CV killed their last vg and yeeted

vague token
#

dont you just love 15 second reset window

#

xD

coral wren
#

yeah makes sure I wont lose

vague token
#

yep

coral wren
#

but I have yet to try vs a wasda

#

or a proper wasda

#

only maxed amakagas and I know this can beat amakaga

vague token
#

hiryuu has problems against wasda since they can just tough out her strikes

#

and the timing of her final counter is different

#

if it rolls into strongest shield you are sad

#

cause then sodak invulns you back

#

xD

#

and heals 50% of it back

trim horizon
#

http://prntscr.com/n9rs2u is this a good score ? I recently got into pvp and just discovered what sandbagging is, idk if I did it right tho

Lightshot

Captured with Lightshot

coral wren
#

its good I think since this seasons been

#

big yikes

trim horizon
#

Do I have to compare it to the top100 to know if im doing fine ?

coral wren
#

u have 8 runs left still and just compare that to the top 1 and see how much ahead u would be if u used all them at once

#
  • or - a couple points
lament lichen
#

Youre pretty far behind now if i use my score since im at 1584 eith 9/10

modern tree
#

top 100 will probably not tell you much, good sandbaggers will not be anywhere neat there atm. I can tell you that you are half a charge behind me, and I generally am like a charge behind really dedicated people, so you aren't doing bad if it's your first season trying it tbh

#

if you are on sandy this is easily top 50 end of season score

trim horizon
#

oh then im fine the, since im on Sandy, but is there a time in the season where should I stop sandbagging ?

vague token
#

the sandbagging never ends

#

it's a way of life

#

once you start

#

you never stop

#

until dst ruins your plans

#

kek

#

(also sleeping)

modern tree
#

on sandy you rarely stop because if you get sufficently ahead, you can just grab admiral of the neavy by playing down to 5/10 or by playing like 1 or 2 games extra

trim horizon
#

mmh I see, thanks for replying

vague token
#

yes

#

also

#

note that hiryuu triggers it on WHAT WOULD be a killing blow

#

so if she would die to a 3k aya torp

#

she just keeps all of that hp

#

xD

#

yeah

#

lol

#

grinding in 8-4 for xp and maya

#

my vanguards X-x

modern tree
#

in pve fire can kill you so try to not bet on it too much

#

I hate it

real notch
#

wow

#

using ark royale with 2x ryuusei is pretty satisfying

#

sry typo

hot creek
#

crap. nagato coming sooner than i thought. 7-2 intensifies

ionic magnet
#

2 week event only again rip

real notch
#

i better fukin get nagato this time around

#

i don't want another 352 cube amagi again

#

PTSD

vague token
#

oh god

ionic magnet
#

390 cube ykkz is still too fresh to me

modern tree
#

I doubt I will ever dump as many cubes as I did for Sheff

#

fucking purple ships are impossible

vague token
#

=(

real notch
#

btw i legitimately farmed like 9 ships to 110 only in 9-4

ionic magnet
#

worst is if that purple ship is totally useless and just for collection entyLUL

real notch
#

and still no niizuki

#

fuck purple ships KEK

vague token
#

lol

#

i still cant believe i got jintsuu and nich on the same day

#

xD

hot creek
#

Heh, thats part of the reason I oath my Jintsuu. she drop early so I didn't have to suffer so much in 10-4 pre danger levels

leaden jay
#

I'm not sure why Sendai is so inconsistent with dmg output

#

only for PvP of course

ionic magnet
#

cos torps are rng and flare is another rng

vague token
#

and she doesnt have the same damage boost jintsuu has

leaden jay
#

Okay laffeyDrink

grave gale
#

Not a fan of sendai. If she misses her flare then it's like why are you here.

#

Or if she somehow dies before the first flare

vague token
#

sendai is more important when slow CAs pop up

#

aka roon

#

but right now we in CL and yukikaze meta

#

too fast

zenith tundra
#

sendai only usefulness right now is to counter belfast smoke imo. she's not that bad considering how overused belfast is

#

with nakaga she's gonna be way more used since she should easily allow vg wipes if inside the flare

vague token
#

is she really better than just tossing sirius in and having no rng xD

ionic magnet
#

im just not a fan of flare targetting. it completely misses VGs in like 1/4 of the time

vague token
#

boilers too strong

zenith tundra
#

i mean u can use aurora sendai sirius too

vague token
#

xD

zenith tundra
#

i'm not sure if u need jesus that much with nakaga or yukikaze

ionic magnet
#

im planning jintsuu aurora sirius but we'll see

zenith tundra
#

i won't even try jintsuu for nakaga tbh

ionic magnet
#

why not she has p good torp pressure

zenith tundra
#

sirius has no torp to boost and aurora is pretty bad

vague token
#

well, aurora at least stacks her damage boost with jintsuu's boost

ionic magnet
#

aurora torps are not bad but sirius yea

vague token
#

to become doable

#

sirius cant be salvaged

#

xD

zenith tundra
#

with 1 carrier my sirius does 800 dmg in pve with gold quad...

#

at lvl 105

#

in 7-2

ionic magnet
#

i like to put 610 on sirius anyways and she still does around 700 dmg per torp

zenith tundra
#

if u want torp just use sendai then with jintsuu aurora

shy hazel
#

at least we get skin gacha box and ring set

zenith tundra
#

yay more ways to spend money

#

gonna buy both

shy hazel
#

now time to decide who to oath after nagato

vague token
#

it's whale time

#

xD

ionic magnet
#

jintsuu sendai torps are disgusting yea but again not a fan of flares so warShrug

shy hazel
#

i just oathed sirius ytd

zenith tundra
#

3.5k-1k-800/900=~1.5k to whale

vague token
#

owo

shy hazel
#

maybe i should oath sendai

#

she looks ugly though

ionic magnet
#

lmao

vague token
#

oof

zenith tundra
#

i'm finishing rn sendai oath

#

should be done in the next 10mins max

ionic magnet
#

just oath all meta ships smugBucky

zenith tundra
#

i think i'll go for sirius sendai aurora nakaga def since no way i'll run nakaga for offense

shy hazel
#

i smell pr ships after nagato event

#

i need to oath all pr except izumo

grave gale
#

probably

shy hazel
vague token
#

oof

zenith tundra
#

i'll oath ibuki and MAYBE roon

grave gale
#

1 week after Nagato PR then 1 week later Iris or DC rerun. entyLUL

shy hazel
#

id like iris

ionic magnet
#

rip rings

shy hazel
#

ill oath jb for ultra pve

#

farming

zenith tundra
#

i don't like jb plus u have to manual her either way

vague token
#

i mean she still gets half of the damage boost in auto

#

xD

#

the boost is higher than dorks

#

non-manual

zenith tundra
#

yeah but her weapon is trash

vague token
#

i mean it's a quad

#

are there any good quads?

zenith tundra
#

u can miss half dmg easily if enemy moves

vague token
#

xD

#

i dont understand why they made quads like

#

complete trash

#

in every mode lol

zenith tundra
#

i don't mind it i don't even like 406 tbh

vague token
#

woo

#

i think my sendai is level 99 with 100 affinity, but she doesnt fit my comp so rip

real notch
#

kek

#

yeaa unfortunately it feels like 200affection sendai was kind of waste of time

vague token
#

na it's just a long term investment

#

looooong

real notch
#

waiting for nakaga? AquaSmug

zenith tundra
#

i'm not sure who would i like to ring after nagato with the extra one. baga is quite stronger then i tought when she procs. i saw her barrage deal 60% of a fox life

vague token
#

na for when roon and saint louis are being slow

#

actually just roon

#

saint louis has a speed skill

#

roon tank stats oh boi

zenith tundra
#

one more reason to use sendai for nakaga defense imo

#

fuck pr ca

vague token
#

xD

#

it doesnt work as well on saint louis cause she fast

#

but still important cause saint louis self buffs evasion by 35%

#

for 40 seconds

zenith tundra
#

evasion stat

vague token
#

lol yeah

zenith tundra
#

since she's a ca at 110 is not that good

vague token
#

she's basically portland with actual damage is what she looks like

#

she has more of everything basically

#

3 less evasion base at 100

#

but that's ok

#

beaver and 42 evade at 100 hits 77, increase by 35%

#

almost 100

#

that's plenty for 4.8k hp

#

aka same as port kai

#

but she also has minne tier FP and reload xD

#

pewpew

#

and 35% he damage boooost

#

glorious

hybrid tendon
#

prinz is still the best CA in my heart

vague token
#

prinz retro when

#

adds more hp and evade, does nothing else

#

"literally unkillable"

zenith tundra
#

printz retro on modernization node she just disappears from the game and u don't get to see her anymore even if used by opponents

hybrid tendon
#

no u

shy hazel
#

prinz refit is she gets vaporized

zenith tundra
#

interesting that they pick the worse ships for ur retros but don't bother balancing ships at all

shy hazel
#

other than NoCa they never touch or rebalance any others ships

#

after release

#

guess they dont need to balance if pvp is only a side feature for them

zenith tundra
#

the rebalances are so few that aren't even worth considering as actual balancing stuff

#

then why won't they just release enty retro and gg pvp

random vault
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well we have to look and see how the pr2 ships are LeanderXD

zenith tundra
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why do we have to sit here refitting the worse ships in the game 1st

random vault
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but i also dont understand why retros are timegated

shy hazel
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it makes sense in mobage life

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older units get new limit break

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even in alot more mainstream games i guess

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ofc the more useless ones gets it first

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lol

random vault
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but we nvr see common ships being powercrept enough to beat ssr ships longcryland

zenith tundra
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ws kai is not that good she completely lack anything to make her good for pve, it's just a bunch of broken stats putted together

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she's just as unusable in pve as before kai