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yes, make all wedding skins -10% accuracy and -10% health cause its hard to fight in a wedding dress 
all summer skins -10% all stats during winter because it's cold and all winter skins same but during summer
except for tirpitz
what would be the best skin I wonder
cuz there's ice in her bikini skin
o.O
ecks dee my dudes
as if thats going to help anything with 10 charges behind

Well idk if u are worth.... U r the sandbagging god after all
Well not this season
it might still be possible to rank top 10 at end of season cause most of the ppl on the leaderboard dont sandbag at all
Thats true ^
There are like 70 or so people that had 10/10 runs abused though
Since 70 of top 100 is at 300 points+
are u sure about that tho? mostly of those are people that didnt rush till last hr last season
well i can only speak from the perspective of sandy cause i dont see too many familiar names on leaderboard
People are ahead of us by 10 attacks and worst of all they all got it from beginning
if ppl who sandbags got the extra charges they are sandbagging rn
but last dst bug season saw some people with a 50 point lead at the start but they soon dropped out of top 10
free points
yeah because that was before a reset ppl who had 0/10 here is ppl that had 5/10 before season end
Put all your def fleets
and also more bonus points cause the average score is higher so it might balance out towards the end
Most of them don't have 110 fleets like ours
I got aotn and top 50 on Sandy just now after missing 7 charges or something, I am not really concerned if I can place high or get gensui. Shit like this makes me really bored of the game tho because no matter how hard I try, someone could have just scaked last season to get extra 100 points in this one and I can just watch
i wonder who's def fleet famine had problem with
i'd bet one ring pack on wasdA
i was 2530 pts end season and even last reset when a lot of ppl dont rush i couldnt break top 30
He probably underestimated his enemy, usually he attacks when there's 10 mins left in reset
So he is using amakaga for faster runs
Famine? Is he in this discord
He said he is but using a different name
hello everyone, is this double DST bug now
I'd be surprised if anyone has problems with any fleet using oathed bis foxes. Even I can afford playing 10 minutes before reset with HMS and fox resets are like 40 seconds to finish
346 points is 15 attempts 
goddamn, I just logged in and only have 5/10
some people already used 15 attempts
I'm legitimately wondering if sandbagging can improve your position if ppl have 10 attacks advantage 
you don't even get to meet them now
if they sandbag most likely not
and all your neighbours probably have 5/10 too, not 10/10
You either need to catch up to them ir sandbag with them
still recovering 100 pts just from sandbagging seems hard
oh, someone just pushed from ~3000 to 1444
i was at 1.3k earlier when i used 2 attempts
literaly didn't gain any ranks from attempts at the beginning
there's no 40 sec fights against wasda dax
maxed foxes or not 
well against real wasdas i mean
even with hms vs wasda it's 1min+ rarelly ever seen less then that
and foxes can easily get cucced so resets will happen a lot
another messed up season eh
Foxes in 30 secs you generally would know the outcome
they need to delete current season scores and give everyone 5/10 rn
theres nothing stupid that will happen cos foxes dont have much rng in them
i wonder how many points i can get with ~340 points diff

I got 42, do it


Wtf 42
something stupid as sd proccing her focus assault and washy amagi proccing their barrages every time
You know, I never thought of it, but I guess I should have been saving my last 5 runs from last season
Oops
makes no sense
Why would you save lol
I 100% expected this to happen but I decided to not participate in it

because I have a shred of self respect
we know what to do next season atleast
There's no such thing as saving attempts for new season

That's just a bug
you knew you'd be able to save charges from previous season?
I didnt know, I expected it
I expected trouble from the moment I was the timers are mismatched
i thought about saving my charges too but i used them in the end
overestimated devs i guess

well, we all saw something funky was going to happen but I wouldn't have guessed saving charges was the way to exploit the bug
honestly thought its gonna be either this, or season wil reset and set everyone at 5, then hour later you will get another 5
we got the worse outcome
when dealing with thus games bugs
always follow
murphys law
the worse will always happen
it's even worse rn because ppl that use 10 attempts last hour now have 5/10 with 10 matches advantage in score
actually i thought its gonna be 0/10 right after season starts then we get our 5 charges at reset but eh 
genuinely no idea why season end timer does not hard set people at 5/10, but okay
i think it's season reset that does that not daily reset
didnt even reset unused charges smh
is saratoga viable for pvp?
the season started before reset so no reason for reset to remove charges. it's like a normal day in the season
she's good for pve tho
You can probably get away with using her on wasd if you have all the ships at 110, with just a couple of resets
kiro uses sara chan 
a little far from meta tho
could people keep their charges from last season?
yeah thats basically what happened. if you had charges from previous seasons, they'd carry over and you'd be able to fight.
yes because last season started 1hr earlier then the reset so reset was just like a normal one and didn't set it to 5/10 like it should've
i came out of a meeting about 30 minutes before the usual pvp reset time so i was rushing my pvp to get AotN but then saw the fuck up and thought was this another april fools shit lol
it is an april fool shit just caused by dst from forever ago
so 5/10 from last season, +5 from season timer reset and +5 from daily timer reset, huh
https://puu.sh/D8oNg/82bd00b8ca.png even the global chatters are feeling the burn feelsbadman
by the time i realised that something was wrong, i had already used up 7-8 of my charges
this is like, not even DST. It has asceneded beyond that
i'm not sure people got +5 attempts from season reset. i had 0/10 before that and only 5/10 after daily reset. all the extra charges/points come from people who didn't use their charges before season ended 1hr earlier
I wonder if jp/cn ever has problems like this

snip'd
kek
does jp change time like us?
they smart 
agree with the smart thing
How many pvp season they thrashed in a row so far?
on the negative side i wonder how many sandbaggers had extra charges before that season ended just to make it worse
this is 3rd if u count last one ending 1hr earlier
if only we had galaxy brain like Daxam and predict the possibility of saving charges 
would u have abused it tho?
i did some testing and i dont think u can save the charges. my smurf got reset from 10/10 to 5/10 after normal reset. u can only get the extra points if u used them between the period of the bug and normal reset as the points did not reset with normal reset.
probably not since if I had abuse I wouldn't have gotten r1 last season.
well, you could have only attacked during that 1 hour period if you had charges from previous season i think
some people displayed 5/10 during the "reset"
and couldnt attack
and after you relog it would go to 0/10
so thats what i meant by "saving charges"
i would sandbag hard with that
just sandbag like usual
it's most unlikely u'll reach 2.7k tho
yeah the longer the season goes on the more the scores will balance out, and this happen right at the beginning so...
but i would still try to see how high i can go
unless they reset the season now cause i dont think there will be damage with resetting the entire season whilst its still fresh
all points wiped and everyone at 5/10 again with the timer fixed
it makes the perfect solution
but looking at them
i dont think theyll do it
i even tagged gt in bug reports
if u sleep during this time, ull just wake up with 10/10 unless u sleep for more than 15 hours
@viral galleon
and give me 2500 merit comp pls and thx lol 
they should just release a patch and reset like new season reset. the more they wait the worst it is
Just HOW ?
welcome to DST 3.0
25 - 28 pts win per battle
also called April's Fools
just impossible
staff underestimates pvp people
They actually did it on purpose just for April fools
tfw voting with money doesn't work 
idk about that. casuals spend money too you know lol, someone has to be buying all these Lusty skins cause they keep making them
but we sure aren't lol
well, skins are usually more expensive than oath rings, so that profits devs more, I guess

oath+skin is indeed the true flex
ok, 33, 31, 34 so far
catching up with 15 rounders doesn't seem too promising
you're supposed to get only 5 to begin with, but I digress
Guys.. What happened with PvP..??
Why like this..??
I meant.. I'd ever tried didn't use 5 tickets left 'til reset PvP season n just got 5 tickets again.. Didn't get 10 tickets..
Why the fucc they got 10 tickets even more..??
How it works..??
ask the mods. and admins. I'm so tired of all this shittery
That's why PvP system should be change to Real PvP system
Not using score
But using after beating an enemy
the problem is dst... why dont they just leave servers in cn for good measures 
The pvp ended one hour earlier than the usual reset and some people who didn't attack the previous season, probably got 10/10 5/10 or have some attacks left hanging manage to attack it during the new season and those who have 0/10 last season have to wait for the reset, meanwhile those who managed to use their attacks also gets another 5 attempts from the actual reset
@vale juniper ^
@livid fractal I'd ever tried not using 5 tickets left n same.. When reset time, I just got 5 tickets
end season reset always puts u at 5/10 even if u have 10/10 before it
so the gain is only score from attempts used in the 1hr after season ended and reset happened
But how they got 10 tickets for this PvP season..??
I'm still confused 
end of last season was weird tho, it didn't actually give 5/10 right after season ended,
the 5/10 only came after daily reset
Wait let me fix it
last season ended and people who had 10/10 before the end used tbose attempts and gained score towards current season
before daily reset
any attempt used from 1hr before daily reset counted towards new season
Still confused.. I can't use my logic think

Because I'm logic thinker
At first I thought people actually got 5/10 which is why I put it on my explanation
But turns out you can't use it and when you relog its gone
season ended 1hr ealier. attempts did not reset because the reset happens on daily reset. people using attpempts after season ended counted towards new season even tho the attempts were for previois season
@vale juniper you didn't use your charges before server reset so they poofed. others used their extra charges before server reset so they got high scores
oh this bich switch ended top 4


i wouldve been top 10 if i didnt sleep
reeeeeeeeeee
I ate a couple of 9s and blue was on my lobby during 9/10 but he said he is done
yea lol

i also had to restart on blue
RIP me then
cos you didnt use them fast
Fucc
u dont get anything unless u used attempts in between season end and daily reset. i didnt get anything either
gotta be a fast as fucc boi if you want to be competitive in PvP 
Although I'm online before actual reset, but I didn't even get any extra charge
Why..??
you didnt reset the game
the daily reset was supposed to be a seaaon end reser so it set everyone to 5/10
Y'know what, I still can't use my logic


I didn't got that 5 extra
i did get 5/10 and i was at 0/10
jp runs alot better
The extra 5 attacks was a bug and can't be used
@vale juniper I still believe this is connected to countries that switched to DST yesterday, so if your country didn't you're not affected by this bug 
I tried to attack it but it says error
RIP for all players in GMT area
The game just doesn't want me to pass that 2600 wall
Didn't got any 5 extra bugs
5? how about 10? kek
not getting extras is not a bad thing
Dafuq
who cares about fair play amirite 
In this season I don't care about get +7 +8 +9 score anymore
no time to deal with serious pvp
Can I ask that are they planning to reset the pvp?
players
If not then I don't want to play for rank anymore thanks
1 and half months wasted in pvp due to dst
Although get +11 +12 will be hard to reach them who got E X T R A T H I C C
Fix it? Nah..
Sorry.. I meant EXTRA BUGS
@drifting shadow i wouldnt count on it
Ah I see
yea no matter what devs do now, damage is already done 
Well the past 2 PVP I already have no chance getting AotN so might as well stop playing pvp this time
Okay then thanks for the explanation
if they wanted to reset the pvp season should have happened already
the more time passes the harder it is to do
They could have done it when the reset was near and announced maintenance
But you know what?
They decided to fool around
And not bother about it
eh just count it as april fool joke and forget this season too
meh, too lazy for AotN, will just level boats
at least it should work fine till next dst happens
I hope they won't fix it so when the next season comes people are gonna save 10 attacks
lol

Plot Twist : They fixed it
N you fucced out to rank 10k+
if they fix it like they fixed dst score after the patch then it wont matter
they didn't even fix the score issue on the DST 2.0 catastrophe
at this point I don't even care if it takes them an entire season to fix it as long as that season would be like a sacrificial lamb to fix this kind of problem permanently
its fixed till next dat already
apparently, it appears my hopes is even too high for that to happen
no more time changes
no it where not, how did I know? well I was part of those affected by the DST 2.0 issue remember? and my scores wasn't even adjusted or anything. That put me to Rank 13 or 16 end of season I forgot
u mean for old seasons?
DST 2.0 thing issue
who cares 
N I just dunno why they don't fixing UI bugs..
If that UI bugs in .apk, I can fix it asap
yeah at this point who cares now, my interest to that part of the game is fading now anyway
devs don't want to bother with current UI cuz they wanna release a new one 
there was a teaser of that
"the problem is that only a few people actually care for end season scores and because there is no leaderboard with top ranks anywhere there is no reason to change something that is pointless right now" @buoyant parrot
i dont really agree with it but thats what the answer would most likely be
good thing Stella ain't doing berserk chat right now I guess he/she probably got used to it
true but I don't even understand why put that part of the game not working. It maybe irrelevant right now but it is still part of your game that's supposed to be working em I right?
they wont do anything for current situation let alone for past seasons
let's just see what will happen (or not happen) 
inb4 apolomerits 
as always, going to set my expectation very low. Like hell low...
noone moving on my list too. im so triggered to even complain
I would rather them do nothing about it than to half ass it and say they fixed it when they didn't actually do anything 
u got already enough merits in dst season why complain now
^ exactly
after this DST 3.0 issue if this ever happens again, I'm dropping Military Ranking. Its pointless. I'll stick to Collection/Fleet ranking which is more STABLE & WORKING
lol

it will happen next dst dont worry 
you can only reliably use stuff that is not time-gated/based on resets at this point
and I will remind everyone to start preparing for it so everyone can abuse it 
everyone gets banned owo
How would someone have 375 score already in pvp today?
@coral wren read #known-bugs and #bug-reports
unless u heavy abuse it like 9k score u can get away with 5-10 extra attempts
and even if u abuse it u only get banned from pvp
up to the commanders discretion if they are going to be obvious about it, I'll just remind them its almost DST are you ready to abuse the Exercise bug again~
I think it would be fun if all of us here would attack normally, I wanna know how much the "top ranks" can keep up with 110 level fleets
oh there, she's alive and not berserking right now

i want nagato so i can have a decent defense 
well I said he/she
well im not too invested in this pvp season
if i was i would be berseking hard rn
anyways
i already tagged
alo here
and i tagged gt on bug report

this is another part of why I cant break top 100 I guess
even with them have 10
i'm done complaining... I'm eating donut right now while patting my Doggo
im pretty sure if i dont do any stupid oversleep
i can still get gensui
but im not really invested this
season
cos its bugged anyways
i already rushed my attempts
I've been seeing Hiryu and Enterprise lately they're kinda good. Forced me to reset 1x
i changed my mind when i had to fight wasda 3 times just awhile ago
before season end


lol
all of them had wasda
When I can't win against wasda mirror I go for my akaga amagi
i couldn't beat that clef guy earlier
oya that
what vg did u use?
0-5 so i just fought the next guy on my list lol
well ur vg sucks so its normal
i tested against clef with hms and i had 70-80% winrate

hmm hms counters wasda i guess
but not sure he was using nanoda
time to dust out my hms 
at that time
well i just havet to wait for a month
i have a strong belief
that nagato is next event

wait
this month's gold t boxes
hope so
nah its fine
winters crown had sakura boxes
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wc had sakura when it ended
@leaden sequoia When..?? Next year..??


UI bugs won't fixed 'til next New UI release..??
they haven't announced anything, so who knows 
and iirc not even CN/JP got new UI just yet
is there any other kms event
none
Spee
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oof
trap bisko lmao
maybe an EN exclusive kms event 
i looked and outside of oc and graff there are no kms events
idk how i still only have 2 gold mag torps all this time
if it will be kms event
itll only be rerun
why not
its good for me
one more rainbow torp
ye, kms gets shafted the most
and gold torp
meanwhile IJN event number what you say
@leaden sequoia Damn man.. Fixing UI bugs is easier than other bugs
well...
it is most part easier
the problem is that it's much more opinionated
from what I've seen about endless UI design debates
did they just mess up the pvp timer again
(not just from AL)
it would end 2 hrs before reset now
you're right
attempts reset still 1 hour early
but now season resets 2 hours early
so if nothing changes this season
attempts reset at 23:00 PDT, 11:00 PDT, 17:00 PDT
and season resets at 22:00 PDT
topkek
heh
got another gold sg this reset
now i gotta wait for another rest
reset
i have a new theory in gold bp farming
its easy to get a gold bp every after reset
at least for me
just got kicked out as well
still on 6-1
5.8 MB
err
did they fix the attempts timer just now
to be 00:00 PDT, 12:00 PDT, 18:00 PDT
its the pvp timers
For Washington and South Dakota, which would you use?
410 should be bis then 406 and never 381
406 on wash
i dont agree with 406 in any form tbh

its so slow to be a wall for amakaga
wasd doesnt need to shoot fast though
406 accu with a gold sg should be good enuf to hit non moving objects
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410? Ehh

410 then
just keep in mind people here assumes you're using them in pvp
381mm seems like a direct upgrade to the 410mm though
It's mostly about the shot timings
If you get off a extra set of shots with 410s by the time it matters, they're better
Otherwise the 406s are better
Even faster timing. But I guess you'd need to do the math to see which results in higher dmg output
381 is worse damage than 410s by a not insignificant amount, it's used for barrage boats mainly who don't mind a bit less shelling damage
I'm wondering if that slightly earlier shot could determine the match win in a mirror match
Or is the damage loss difference big enough
That it would actually require you an extra round
And thus causing you to always lose even if you shoot first
the dmg diff between 406 and 410 is big
but is also the cd
406 has bad accuracy on moving objects
long term it should do more dmg on backline if u wipe enemy front fast
at least thats how i think about it
you can ask others
Hmm, I've never taken a close look at the actual projectile path and speed
381 dmg is so much lower then 410 the difference is like 800 dmg for all 6 shells landing
in pvp
406 has 22 degree spread while 410 has only 20, so 406 tends to cover more area
For the timed barrages damage, is that based on the raw Firepower value or do the gun's dmg numbers affect it
I dunno if that's good or bad against vg
since most vg right now is light armor, splash damage should do something even if shells miss a bit
the difference i speed is uniportant since 410 3rd shoot is faster then akaga 3rd airstrike
Cause I'd assume both Amagi and Washington's timed barrages do a decent chunk on the vanguards
it would take another 10 secs for 381 to shoot 1 more round over 410
all barrages are affected by total FP stat
so yeah, any gun FP bonus does affect them
isnt the consensus 406 on wash/sd and 410/381 on amagi
i think 410 is more effective to wall off amakaga over 406
I think the answer is to record down all the times and dump it into a spreadsheet again to compare timing windows
that's BiS for general purpose I think, to counter specific comps the common setup needs additional revisals
also 381 is bis for amagi hands down but 2 timed barrages for washy shouldn't be worth using more fp on her
With lvl 110 stats
i did that and 410 shoots right before amakaga 3rd airstrike
But 4:30am here so I'll do that... Tomorrow 
"right before amakaga 3rd airstrike" sounds dangerous if they use helldivers
so you can use stukas to counter that
i played the amakaga part and even with jesus yukikaze ur foxes are almost dead before 3rd airstrike
anything that shoots before that has a chance of killing them
Well you want to calculate all the timing windows
^ dat
So you can figure out what's optimal against both foxes and mirror match
i would even try 410 hsfcr on sd 381 on amagi and 410 on washy id u care about timings much
i think it would have been easier for them to just
reset the season
i dont see any harm
than give extra 75 points
i dont understand how their mind works

5 attacks is about 150 points

10 attacks is 320 points
i just gave up
that's weird, I have 17 mails unopened, but I can only see 16
is the 17th supposed to be with 75 points?
who knows
75 doesn't even the playing field at all

@leaden sequoia scroll down it will appear
it happens when you have a bunch of mails
I scrolled down to my oldest mails
idk why but yea lol
it happens because the game doesn't load all mails at once
anyway what would happen if you don't get the daily mission reward coins in your mission tab? will that go to your mail?
it will poof i think ether
i remember forgetting to claim dailies and it poofed
ahh okay
got it
same thing with weeklies and event missions
so the heck can you save coins in mail then?

is there any way to hoard coins?
any mission with an expiration date, basically
mails
if u lose 1 attempt early on u lose 10 pts end season because ur progression will make it so u only miss the points from 1 attack at past commodore rank. if the same aplies to extra points u end up with around 7 extra attempts for 75 pts
mails
nope
yeah but how would you get those coins to you mail?
nope

I have unopened mails from February from maintenance compensations, apologems and Akashi
ahhh... so they came from compensations and rewards. Got it.
those who whale trade license also get daily oil and gold
i wont really call
trade licence whaling
its basically the cheapo most reasonable shit
u can buy
every month
i wish there was premium license 
id be willing to pay for a 40 dollar pack monthly
no thanks i dont need to pay more then i do
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Daily oil costs $10/month, so $0.30 per day... You guys have a funny definition of the term "whale" lol...
75 season score isnt 75 merit right?
pfft i am not even gonna try hard now, pathetic
devs like to reward us with nothing but frustration for being pvp freaks anyways

i lost respecc on devs and mods since last dst
But actually, now that I think of it, it's actually about right. Because suppose you had 10 extra attacks near the end. You can gain a total of about 100 points. But because you are so ahead, you will inevitably gain some 9 pointers
@shy hazel I'm starting to feel the same way
So you will gain instead 80-90 points from those 10 attacks
well they couldve just did the most optimal solution
So 75 points isn't that bad
i think that's not possible on their end programming wise for some apparent reason
A season reset would have been cleaner, but they missed the window
they can deduct points last time
It's entirely possible from a programming standpoint, I can tell you for a fact 100%
i can see them reducinng points to 0
It's just a question of effort
this time
And it's not worth the effort
not really they could reset the season for tomorrow's reset
I don't know whatever they say I don't think they will reset the season EVER coz if its easy as 1 2 3 they could have done it on DST 2.0 Catastrophe. Now it happened again nothing...
pfft would have been better not to touch the DST shit at all
Cause to trigger a reset would require resetting or reverting a lot table columns and could lead to a lot of dangerous side effects
It's too risky
Much easier to just add additional points
Welp. Another season down the pit ...
love the armchair "well from a programming standpoint i understand this is too complicated to be realistic"
i even participated in beta test client to find bugs in pvp
albeit the beta test was crap
lol
@charred sable as an SQL Programmer I know how it feels...
im not shallow as only to aim for rewards actually
will u people understand that gaining 75 score rn is not 2 extra attempts.... the way u gain score will make it so it's almost 7 attempts because the only negative side to it is that u get less base points from being higher rank then u should be
my primary aim is to have a voice
I mean, I am a professional software developer and I work with backend database teams on a daily basis, so I'm not just talking our of my ass lol
isnt this game still in open beta for en?
So I'm not exactly armchair arguing this 
which is probably last year
if u don't even open that mail till 10 base score u lose nothing actually
next year i mean
crap, did they broke PvP again? 
@slender bramble our reading comprehension levels are clearly ๐ฏ 
@charred sable ๐
@balmy torrent which by the way didn't complete
You should work for AL, would do a better job than what is currently going on ๐
@zenith tundra u forgot that the attempt carried to next season.

there's a bunch of players who's in the rank at that time that their scores weren't deducted
And that is not a sarcasm, I mean it
@storm pasture the message was a compensation for who didn't get extra attempts i hope because if not it's dumb as fuck
@slender bramble that's the problem though... Unfortunately the game development industry is not very... Attractive per say from an employment perspective
Wtf is going on. How are ppl 300 points into the season
understandable, I have friends in the same field and took them years to get a job
Got an offer from a gaming Dev... But POS Programming is way more profitable, Hence I'm in this industry... F the gaming prog dev.
Shit working conditions to do shit work for shit pay and little to no job security... Not a very attractive offer for those who are capable of going elsewhere to make more money in better work
^ EXACTLY
why would u work in game programming
@coral wren people used attempts from last season towards current season because last season ended 1hr earlier and attempts didn't reset at that time
like the top 100 is 300+ how the hell is anyone who didnt use the 10 strikes able to compete?
when working in gaming companies risks u of losing your job
every 5 years
look at ea
@shy hazel which message
oh let's give you 75 points

please post something here
about the points being broken
becauase people go here just to ask
The only reason you would want to work in a game company is either pure passion or pure naievity.
okay ill make something
Just make something and then ping me
It's hard to make something on mobile lol
@charred sable I also heard you get shit pay, unless you work for google
Or you're a massochist 
What do they mean by "previous commanders"?
@storm pasture should be people that used attempts from last season for current one
true they get paid a lot more than manga artists, 7 cents a page
@slender bramble I'd say it's a tad bit too early to clarify Google as a gaming company lol
Due to a bug and error in Timezones, some people in pvp got an extra 5-10 charges this season and got carried over to the next season. Due to this some people got scores over 300. According to devs, they are working on how to fix this problem and a free 75 pvp points will be given to people who didn't get extra charges.
ehm i don't want to be that guy but pls keep off topic to the minimum
@slate estuary

@charred sable i mean in the programming field ๐
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And now I fly away

April 1st
Sandy in comms
NOTHING SUSPICIOUS HERE
But yeah, 75 points actually isn't that bad. A fairer number would have been 90, but it's better than nothing
<not mine
its not a commission bug
90 because the max is 100 but if you were actively using your attacks, you will be at the top and be forced to settle with 8/9 point wins
its designed to be like that
But if they carry over 5 attempts. They could earn more than just 75 points
So you have to realize how you calculate it
You earn more points right now for your first 5 attacks
But everyone earns lesser and lesser points as the season goes on
@storm pasture any attempt lost or gained is based on end season gains since getting/losing that bonus now doesn't affect what u can gain right now
Hence at the end of the day, you are being given 5/10 extra attacks, which at end season is max 10 points each
the question is
+75 aint gonna fix my pvp score, people are ahead with away to many points, and the people that attacked them also got extra points
In fact, it's actually detrimental cause it goes against the theory of sandbagging
@random anchor 100% sure it won't fix scores but it will close the gap from 10 attempts max to 3 max
@random anchor calculate it out, you are misunderstanding
It doesn't matter that you can't catch up now
It is impossible for them to maintain that gap
That gap is relative
Think of it as a log function
it actually is possible to keep that advantage if u sandbag
Exactly, hence it's not entirely a 10 attack advantage
Cause 10 attacks won't net you +100
early season scores allow people who rush to be at the top
The only way you can get +100 with those 10 attacks is somehow there's 100 other people who also got extra 10 attacks and constantly stay ahead of you the entire season
The likelihood of that happening is next to none
The people who got screwed over the most actually are those who only got 5 bonus attacks
They are in a permanent -25 deficit
@charred sable that problem only raises if u keep yourself at 0/10 all the time and ur the only one with that bonus. in this case a lot of people have extra scores so if they sandbag they can actually keep that bonus
the bonus they get is also lower though, so even if they sandbag, lower-ranked sandbaggers can still close the gap, imo
Fyi, 5 atks are around 130-140pts
the real problem is that pvp ends 2 hrs before server reset now and noone seems to care in #bug-reports
the only points they start losing that 25 pts advantage is maybe when attacking end season against lower ranks
@zenith tundra not entirely. Imagine the Fleet Admiral situation. You only break into top 10 with your final attack usually. But after your "final" attack, you are somewhere between rank 1 and 25, but with 10 attacks left. There's no way each of those 10 attacks will net you +10
Why not just wipe all the points.. Giving people +75 won't fix this
They are still leading even without receiving 75pts. There is nothing detrimental
Leading right now means nothing
lol, I think this would be easier to explain to people of I had a graph
@charred sable i keep saying it but u only keep that if u sandbag...
go on manager-san make an EA Graph that explains PvP please
@charred sable
No ofc not. Most of those ppl would fall off and the pts gap arent actually that big because theyll earn less pts since they are ahead yadada. But the fact remains that there will be ppl in there sandbagging and be able to keep that advantage
it's a boost for sandbagger tho
Here
I'm actually triggered by how they're giving us +75 instead of resetting everything
oops i mean for people who didnt get extra charges and who dont sandbag
this is a big detriment
This graph explains how PvP points work more or less lol
from what I understood, the tweet doesn't mention anything about mails, so it's unsure if you can keep those 75 points for later to maximize your rank position at the end of the season
what if u keep the 75 pts mail for next season 
no one cares (outside of the vast minority) about end season score
err, I mean for AotN on Friday
if they insert the +75 points at this early stage I think there will be a disadvantage... However if you put this extra point near season ends then it will balance everything out.(ASSUMING YOU ARE SANDBAGGING)
which mean they need to send points in the upcoming days not next week for sure
If you can instant redeem those +75 points via mail, it should actually make everyone (except those who got the bonus points) happy
Lol I thought this was a prank at first not a bug
What 75 points?
they won't send it via mail because it could allow people to store them @charred sable
If there are more AotN instead of just 10, we dont have to fight eachother for petty score like this
I think the ideal time to insert the points would be 1 or 2 days before the 2200pts
yeah most likely not going to be on the mail. Coz it can be carried over next season 
if they do the devs should just be jobless
They dont need to wait around 2200
Pretty much anytime after 1050 is enough
But u cant wait that long either because ppl will be flipping their shit about it being broken forever
It sucks they donโt do something now cuz it means less people to sand bag from
@strange shuttle the last game news stated they will compensate commanders with 75 score points
Betting $20 that the mistake was on the side of Yostar's IT guy who configured the servers and not Manjuu's developers 
well CN works and JP works... though they don't have this stupid DST shit fiasco
Unless China and Japan don't have daylight savings, do they?
i think once they see who got extra attempts figured out it's when they'll send us the points excluding those who benefit from extra attempts
Nvm, according to Google, neither countries observe DST lol
i can already see people with 1-2 extra getting the bonus tbh 
I'm leaning towards to not having this 100% resolve just by adding +75 points. Like what happened on DST 2.0 Catastrophe where they said they are going to adjust points bla bla bla. Which I'm sure wasn't done completely coz I'm one of those who got the extra attempts.
its manual
they just manually reduced points of the people above
its not automatic at all
and they failed at doing it tbh
What they say will happen: We will give 75 bonus points to only accounts that did not get bonus attacks
What will probably happen: Everyone gets bonus 75 points cause that's a lot easier than dealing with figuring out who used how many extra attacks lol
They should just reset everything to 0
i woudl say bad is an understatement
Too late, too hard right now, they missed their window :/
That's why I said in the bug reports channel "the 'wait and see' approach is definitely not going to work here"
2hr earlier sounds good
i wake up with only an hour to try sandbag a few rounds
now ill wake up 10 minutes before reset
what
It's like those wooden planks with like 5 nails in them, all around the same spot
tfw im already 120 points behind #1
Missed the mark the first few times, let's try a few more lol
the patch didn't touch the 2hr earlier for seasonal timer at all
wait a fucking minute
though it did fix the attempts timer
lol
the DST bug is still there?
once again
still there and became even stronger, apparently
yes Chancellor Palpatine the bug is still there...,

people are 120 points ahead of me
I'm part of the Sith my lord...
i couldnt even get to top 50 last time
cos of the bug
not even top 100 
and its easy on my server
I got r9 last season
And that was with one missed attack and no bug advantage
Couldn't hold of course but didn't matter
i dont really care about top 10 i just want to top 50 points 
literally the first day
ill just have to pop my 5 attemps early at 1900 points
It's probably easier for them to force end the current season and start a new one than it is to reset/roll back the current season lol
Chancellor Palpatine, This has happened before and it happened like the last DST 2.0 now its DST 3.0
they can't reset the PvP
347 on sandy 
anyone remember dst 1.0?
If the bug happened during mid season then they will start saying they did their "attacks" or say it was fixed but didn't get fixed or worst they will defend them the abusers when there is evidence lol


yup,
difference between 1st and 100th in sandy is 90 points 
this Jedi Scums need punishments...
can you please execute order 66?
its a 200 points difference


oh wait, 300, not 200

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this is actually dst 4.0
if you count the first time
in which the shop reset 8 times every second

Tfw you get the "training complete" phone notifications but they were 8hr books that you had started since you were going to go sleep "soon" 
sleep is for the weak
I dont understand.guys... ihave not skipped single fight or lost... yet im 120p behind the top
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