pvp

[zenith tundra]

and 381 4th round is off by 8 secs after 3rd airstrike so not even close

[odd schooner]

Ye let's go with that

[zenith tundra]

why would u want jesus alive forever?

i can see why yukikaze

[real notch]

ideally you want juneau to die second

so she heals YKKZ and die before backline

which is what happens

[odd schooner]

Oh boi fought a sirius sendai aurora amakaga

The boiler helped out on going away from flare

@zenith tundra I'm trying out 2 410mm
Seems like sodak shoots first due to flagship priority

[zenith tundra]

so we're getting back to fortune running around 2.0 again huh

how much is that buff?

[real notch]

i use 381 406 and 410

due to shell delay

[elder crane]

HFCR can fix 1 delay issue if need be

[zenith tundra]

have u tried fighting to see when then 3rd mg salvo is? @odd schooner

[odd schooner]

Around 17.5-18s

Plus there's a small gap happening when game starts to go backline vs backline

Amagi / gap / sodak / washi

[real notch]

holy shit

of the last 10 gold ironblood gear i've gotten

7 of them were fukin messerschmits

[vague token]

ouch

[real notch]

i just want a fukin magtorp jesus askljdfhalkjg

[odd schooner]

Wait i think it's amagi / sodak / gap / wasd

[real notch]

reeeeee

[ionic magnet]

did some 20 rounds more against gurren and i got p much 50% winrate

decent but still annoying kek

[zenith tundra]

what vg do u use?

[ionic magnet]

still same jint aur jun

my sendai sirius and ykkz are still not 110 so i dont wanna try them rn

[odd schooner]

Oh

Sumire also using 381 x2 and 410

[vague token]

oh wow ivan and his 110 owari lusty

what a champ

oh wait, aim torps

nvm that's easy

[shy hazel]

[odd schooner]

[shy hazel]

amakaga still usable

[odd schooner]

Well, the point is to stall

[shy hazel]

5 tries

has to reset once

cos jun died late

[odd schooner]

You tried not bringing jun too?

[shy hazel]

when wasda dying then jun heal

[odd schooner]

Oh

[shy hazel]

i never bring jun

i bring bel or aya

[odd schooner]

Wait have you seen vanguard power

To see if it changes even before reset

[shy hazel]

i think vs wasda bel is better

12953

was your vanguard score

bel jun nanoda

[vague token]

using sara kai launched my main fleet power up

by a ton

and she's only 104 xD

mostly because hiryuu base stats are oof

[shy hazel]

use two more btd for more profit

[vague token]

im using the reppu, a firefly, and a btd

;)

gotta boost dat gun damage

[shy hazel]

[odd schooner]

Ok im going to add another boiler

[shy hazel]

[odd schooner]

So changes happen when you face same person again even before reset

Normally 3rd boiler is too much speed 1 backline die during 100 lvl era

Not sure 110 era

[shy hazel]

we tested it

it takes about an hour

before your vg changes

for other players

[odd schooner]

Oh ok

@cerulean estuary pogg

Guess who

[shy hazel]

i think its more than an hour actually

[vale juniper]

See..?? My Fleet can kill Enemy's Main Fleet first

[ionic magnet]

whos that with shield

prinz?

[vale juniper]

Yup

[ionic magnet]

dem the madman

[vale juniper]

All those VG when I screenshots it, still 3 shipfus

[ionic magnet]

[hot creek]

https://puu.sh/D6Vs3/e0c473e722.png

does beating a fleet like that really count

[vale juniper]

Dunno

[ionic magnet]

white hairs + best girl ofc it counts

[vale juniper]

He loves Prinz's 'birthmark' area

[vague token]

15 minute reminder

beep boop

[real notch]

kirosrhima the real MVP

[vague token]

we all in this together

[coral wren]

Has anyone noticed the difference between new ap and old?

[vague token]

i think gurren? was using it and said it had a 6 second duration

aka garbage

xD

[real notch]

i appreciate the researching

i was so lazy to test the new AP mechanics

[vague token]

/too busy leveling sara kai so i can use her

[modern tree]

I have not faced a single fleet with heavy armour yet

[vague token]

ive seen 2 lusty fleets

too bad she dies to literally anything

[real notch]

but those t0 melons though...

[vague token]

true

[modern tree]

Makes Hood shelling feel relevant tho, which is a bit more than I can say about 381

[marble sparrow]

I feel like i've seen the name cirno somewhere 🤔

[real notch]

touhou character right

[marble sparrow]

Cant remember 🤔

[vague token]

i really dont understand how sara/lexi aim their CA guns xD

it's so whacky

[sharp obsidian]

Don't they just fire it to draw attention. Prolly not really intending to hit anybody

[random vault]

"I have big guns, and I'm not afraid to use it!!"

proceeds to fire in all directions

[vale juniper]

Cheater caught in our Blessed Sandy server

[random vault]

huh

there was a banned "not degen" in avrora

wonder if its the same guy

[blazing scroll]

Wasn't not degenerate also a user on another server?

[vague token]

uh oh xD

[blazing scroll]

Exactly

[random vault]

but u have the 55k and 49k guys

oh i didnt see the hq

ofc

[vale juniper]

Please report him/her to dev

@blazing scroll Yup

@random vault Please report him/her to dev

[random vault]

i mean u took the pic, wont it be better if u report it

[vale juniper]

Report to who..??

[blazing scroll]

When did you take the sc?

He is at 67k points now

[random vault]

i could ask the same too, idk who to report to

[vale juniper]

@blazing scroll 13:40

His/her score now :)))

Taken at 15:06

GMT+7 area

[ionic magnet]

lol

just post it on #bug-reports

dm bel chan or smth

[vale juniper]

Oohh.. Ok

[random vault]

35 point diff is +1?

or more than 35

[ionic magnet]

35 is +1

[random vault]

[odd schooner]

Man, every time im queued with blazing it's always lacking 1-3 points

@marble sparrow cirnopedia

[rustic fog]

Longest Owarida fight ever

Fucking 4 times in a row

[real notch]

damn

natsukashiina

[shy hazel]

dont blame enty blame yourself

[clear cloud]

4times
you never try 7 times

killed by fighter plane suicide instead on airstrike

[odd schooner]

@analog hare ping me next reset when you push

Also @cerulean estuary go to sleep it's already almost midnight lmao

Camp later

Or are you sleeping now and will atk before reset

[brittle hill]

Fought a WASD team with Nanoda with my Amakaga, had to restart 3 times

[coral wren]

what was his vanguards?

[blazing scroll]

Was it like this?

[brittle hill]

Yeah

Any damage that wasn't mitigated by SD and Washington or Nanoda was just healed back by Jesus and the former

I felt fear for the first time in a long time

[vague token]

tfw someone using non awakened juneau and she just dies to 500+ damage ca gun shots

maybe i should farm some sui sei for sara

i mean, it doesnt work on other 110s xD

it only does that cause minne is 110 and was 100

hmm maybe i should try monte

on my team

monte/bel/minne sounds bulky and threatening

[analog hare]

I attack after reset

[livid fractal]

Gensui rush time

[hot creek]

Sandy's average scores so low., not even sure its possible to gensui rush fven if you had the charges

[vague token]

oh, Ciel is using triple evade debuff

err, 2 and sirius

oh we just wipe each other's vanguards at same time lol

or flare just whiffs completely ok

i still gotta swap hiryuu in sigh, 105 sara taking too much damage

muh xp

[real notch]

i knew it, juneau was jesus all along

[ionic magnet]

lmao

[cerulean estuary]

wut

[vague token]

now have her walk on water oh wait

[vague token]

hello, it's me your unreliable, ping free 15 minute reminder to do exercises.

[cerulean estuary]

[vague token]

i just got someone who used 10 matches o.o, +2 yey

[slender bramble]

Yes!! made it lol AotN

[hybrid tendon]

Done with the rush

[slender bramble]

same

gratz

[coral wren]

same

[elder crane]

Oh damn, maxed WASDA on def now does take down Amkaga not optimized for that matchup pretty reliably
Looks like that marginal matchup finally fully tilted

[hot creek]

so burnt out from grinding sendai and yukikaze, and they're not even lvl 100 yet

[ionic magnet]

oof just got a rare +3 lol

117 pts difference

[elder crane]

I got walled out by the wall for a good 10 min
Still hit rank 1 , so I suppose it's fine

[ionic magnet]

who walled you 👀

[elder crane]

How'd you get that diff w/o dropping matches?
The Wall walled me out

[ionic magnet]

oh i lost 8 charges

2 on 2nd day then 5 on 4th day and 1 yesterday

[elder crane]

I swapped over to Hamyu and won handily though, so I suppose it's fine
It's what I climb with, and I had faced him earlier with that setup (but with two underleveled ships) and it seemed fine, so I didn't expect Amkaga to do that poorly

[ionic magnet]

i'll try to rush on sunday when most peeps dont care anymore

[cerulean estuary]

[elder crane]

Ran a few times to confirm it wasn't just RNG, and yep, my usual straight amkaga just doesn't work
I think I'll need to do some equip swaps and wait for Sendai to level up a bit more

[ionic magnet]

amakaga has around 50% winrate from my experience

it can get annoying yea

and even if you win, the fights always lasts for 1 minute or longer

[elder crane]

I'm thinking to try double conv TBs and both eva debuffers, nuke the front and torp the back
The high AA of that setup means Barra's suicide damage is probs highly mitigated, first strike felt like it did barely anything
Now the question is if the front for that team can be reliably wiped quickly

[ionic magnet]

i just don't like how ryuusei gets wasted when enemy flag (sodak) is already dead or in her invul buff

i only tested with 1x ryuusei cos i dont have a 2nd one tho

[elder crane]

I don't think barra can even reach that point reliably anymore
A mix of the two might be an option as well, yeah
Also, I think Amagi needs a slight adjust from fastest-firing setup then to avoid hitting into the invul if the 2nd strike procs it

[ionic magnet]

but so far i didn't see any notable difference with 2x barra and 1x barra/1x ruusei

[elder crane]

If it's timed correctly, amagi should fire right as invul ends, if it's proced by 2nd strike

[ionic magnet]

hmm yea i'll try 410 next time 👌

who would you replace on vg tho if you will use sendai+aurora

[elder crane]

Yeah, I think either 410 instead of 381 or maybe just no HFCR
I'm thinking Jint/Sendai/Aurora
Nothing can reliably live under the secondary fire anyways, so they just need to get off torps
Juneau's heal timing might be questionable, given when I expect VG to die pearl alone is probs enough heal. Similarly ykkz value might be low.

[hot creek]

ima try sirius senda aurora once i get them leveled

[elder crane]

Sirius could be good too, yeah, since her buff stays

[ionic magnet]

ah yea sirius is an option too

now that she has a voice already

[shy hazel]

i dont really think amakaga is only 50%

i still never lost that much vs trump and gurren

[ionic magnet]

i think you have to do 20 or so fights to see winrates reliably

[shy hazel]

did 5 vs gurrenn

[ionic magnet]

5 fights dont say much cos well rng

[shy hazel]

i only lost once

👀

both you and zack has same results

because you use jesus

[ionic magnet]

my first 10 fights went 3-7 and second set went 7-3

[shy hazel]

jesus will get hit by bbs fast

so shell die even before 2nd volleys

[elder crane]

went 0/5 vs the Wall
But my team is currently optimized for mirror (yeah, Juneau, and just overall not a fast VG wiper team), and a few elements are pulled out for others
Notably I don't have beaver there, so I got murdered by BB shots

[shy hazel]

try using bel

will provide a safer shell blanket

generally i won 4 rounds because i also wiped jun pretty fast

[cerulean estuary]

[ionic magnet]

dont see how bel would be better but i'll try her next time then 👌

[shy hazel]

i mean bel is useless if she dies in the first bb volleys

almost heal no one

lol

oops

i mean jesus

[ionic magnet]

also, gurren changed his gears now so try to fight him again if you see him

and trump is just a worse wasda from my tests

[shy hazel]

his gears already changed last time iirc

he only put another boiler

[cerulean estuary]

gurren always bully me

[shy hazel]

well see soon again

[ionic magnet]

yea 2 boilers i think

[shy hazel]

my sd is almost 110

he put 3 boilers now

[ionic magnet]

just yesterday

[shy hazel]

but going back to a wasd fleet

feels not worth it

especially when we get signs nagato is coming

[ionic magnet]

@cerulean estuary are you sumire 👀

[shy hazel]

check by uid what

[cerulean estuary]

[ionic magnet]

[odd schooner]

Hecc famine on my list

@shy hazel can i know when does jun usually sink?

Is it from preloaded or airstrike

[ionic magnet]

usually first airstrike/2nd torps on my fights

[shy hazel]

torps

it should spell trouble if you put jun on 3rd or 2nd slot

then 1st slot ykkz

[odd schooner]

I guess i should put the bulge back

[shy hazel]

wonder whats the point of reload for ar ships

[ionic magnet]

for AA

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

better question

why do AR have fp

but houshou doesnt

[cerulean estuary]

thats how mafia works

[vague token]

oh hey, sara snuck an mvp from everyone against a wasda xD

weird

[cerulean estuary]

thats how saratoga works

[vague token]

i did proc a witch's prank i guess

it must have landed on the main fleet

and ticked for a while

[leaden sequoia]

sounds super RNGey

but also sounds fun

[vague token]

eh, 70% activation isnt bad

unless you mean everything is rng compared to fox xD

[leaden sequoia]

I mean the fact that it landed on the main fleet

[vague token]

oh, vanguard was dead

no rng

;)

[leaden sequoia]

ahh

[vague token]

wasda kills slower

so i wiped vanguard already

[vague token]

tick tock 10 minutes or so

[ionic magnet]

[cerulean estuary]

ran out of refresh 0_0

[charred sable]

Made it, lost one attack a few days ago but still made it

[cerulean estuary]

grats

[hybrid tendon]

just smash the shit outta a 14k/14k fleet

with maxed nanoda in the middle

she died first, in fact

🤔

[ionic magnet]

14k means his nanoda is prolly wearing oxytorps

[hybrid tendon]

dude fielded ayaya as well

and jintsuu

so probably 3x oxytorp

[cerulean estuary]

wrong positions and right RNG's

[hybrid tendon]

that was 14.4 k

so probably super maxed

[ionic magnet]

3 oxytorps kek

[hybrid tendon]

2oxy torp is 14.1

but still, best tank in the game is just rng pretty much

a juneau is more consistent

[ionic magnet]

i wouldnt call her best tank especially when most people uses aurora/sendai

[hybrid tendon]

ppl in here seems to think so

[ionic magnet]

ykkz dies in 1 airstrike half the time so

[hybrid tendon]

thats what I was trying to tell them

[vague token]

i just soak aurora hits with my CA xD

[hybrid tendon]

same thing i did

aurora usually died in first airstrike

[vague token]

unless it's triple accuracy/evade debuff

like i had a sirius/aurora/sendai fight

literally traded vanguards

[hybrid tendon]

well thats new I just face that guy

yesterday

[cerulean estuary]

its all about VG positions and RNG <<--- they decide whos gonna sink first

[hybrid tendon]

his sirius airstrike is actually pretty decent

[vague token]

na, shouldnt be much rng minus sendai flare shenanigans

[hybrid tendon]

I lose the first match but was able to reset

sirius sendai aurora lul

[vague token]

i dont think it's actually that good

[cerulean estuary]

siruis , sendai aurora = too much debuffs imo

[vague token]

on defense you just turn it into main fleet vs main fleet

which is tough when offense has 20% damage

[cerulean estuary]

mandatory u need jesus

[hybrid tendon]

sirius is definitely not a bad unit

coz

she has over 400 AA

[vague token]

sirius can still rival my minne for gun dps

cause her barrage lol

[hybrid tendon]

her stats are low

[vague token]

her FP is good, not her torp

[hybrid tendon]

but the barrage is pretty good

[vague token]

with just 1 carrier

she's only like 10 fp under a low FP CA

like portland pre kai or indy

but unlike them she has a good barrage so it's easy to push her damage up

[real notch]

oho i peep gurren in my list again

why's gurren keep appearing in everyone's lobbies

[leaden sequoia]

he rigged RNG for his own fame and glory

[shy hazel]

kinda weird

scores in avrora is way too low

i can grab gensui rn

even with 3 sleep ins

[cerulean estuary]

i can feel u bro

[zenith tundra]

@real notch
Clef (South Dakota, Amagi, Washington | jintsuu, Juneau, Belast 108) 14351/13684
ZackFairX (Duke of York, Amagi, Hood | Jintsuu, Yukikaze 108, Juneau 109) 14096/12616

main fleet equip: Amagi 381, Duke of York 406, Hood 381
vg equip: Jintsuu Bulge Pearl, Yukikaze Boiler FE, Juneau Bulge Boiler
game 1 - win
game 2 - win
game 3 - win
game 4 - tie
game 5 - win
game 6 - win
game 7 - loss
game 8 - win
game 9 - loss
game 10 - win

Clef (South Dakota, Amagi, Washington | jintsuu, Juneau, Belast 108) 14351/13684
ZackFairX (Duke of York, Amagi, Hood | Aurora 109, Yukikaze 108, Juneau 109) 14096/12155

vg equip: Aurora Bulge Pearl, Yukikaze Boiler FE, Juneau Bulge Boiler
game 1 - win
game 2 - loss
game 3 - win
game 4 - loss
game 5 - win
game 6 - win
game 7 - win
game 8 - tie
game 9 - win
game 10 - win

Clef (South Dakota, Amagi, Washington | jintsuu, Juneau, Belast 108) 14351/13684
ZackFairX (Duke of York, Hood, Amagi | Aurora 109, Yukikaze 108, Juneau 109) 14096/12155

game 1 - win
game 2 - win
game 3 - win
game 4 - win
game 5 - win
game 6 - loss
game 7 - win
game 8 - win
game 9 - loss
game 10 - win

Clef (South Dakota, Amagi, Washington | jintsuu, Juneau, Belast 108) 14351/13684
ZackFairX (Duke of York, Amagi, Hodd | jintsuu, Yukikaze 108, Juneau 109) 14096/12155

Swapped HSFCR from Amgi to Hood and Beaver Badge from Duke of York to Amagi also put a 2nd Boiler on Yukikaze
game 1 - win
game 2 - win
game 3 - win
game 4 - win
game 5 - win
game 6 - win
game 7 - win
game 8 - win (accidentally killed opponent)

i'll try with full hms once i get my qe awakened to 110

[vale juniper]

Guys.. I'm starting get bored playing this game -_-

Dunno why

[brittle hill]

Help with equipment loadouts? Planning to put dildo and rainbow torp on Nanoda, or will she need double lunch boxes to survive? Planning to use this fleet for defense

[modern tree]

I think extinguisher will do more for Nanoda, not sure if you'd want to use dildo on her. Toolbox on backliners doesnt do anything, exchange it for actually anything else

[zenith tundra]

i would use boiler instead of box on jesus and boiler box/boiler on yukikaze

[modern tree]

this looks appropriate otherwise

[brittle hill]

is the main benifit of boiler for dodge enemy shells/boms?

[random vault]

its a grinding game you eventually get bored

[zenith tundra]

it makes ur vg way harder to kill then without especially by bb

[brittle hill]

RIP

Invested 100 plates a few days ago on another lunch box

[modern tree]

I think that for ykkz I'd either run extinguisher boiler if I wanted to tank the most, or toolbox oxy if her torp stat was boosted by jintsuu or similar

[zenith tundra]

i think yukikaze must be able to tank quite a bit so u can make use of her buff and heal in which case i would never consider oxy

[shy hazel]

k decided to get my gensui anyways

if someone got me on their list

free +2

[zenith tundra]

with 8 behind i can't even get to top 100 at 0/10 lol

glad i rushed top 50 already

[real notch]

Nice, thanks @zenith tundra

[zenith tundra]

that comp didn't have nanoda nor boilers tho

[real notch]

Higher winrates than i thought but duke op? I guess

[zenith tundra]

it's still base on barrages tbh

[real notch]

Also might be a bit late to ask but try QE with aurora or belfast with dork

[zenith tundra]

qe is stuck at 105 and have no mental units rn and belfast is lvl 100 with 110 xp

just a matter of time before i can use full hms

[real notch]

Btw i was also considering 2x boiler on ykkz

And oh ok

I think with qe at 110 hms is actually pretty damn strong

Only downside is they dont have the huge AA potential of wasd

Anyways the thing is its pretty hard to preserve ykkz tho, in my tests

Sometimes she just randomly dies, (which is normal since ive heard that happened back in cn/jp meta)

[zenith tundra]

i'm just wondering if qe buff on doy and hood makes up for dmg lost on amagi barrage but i guess it should be fine with her acc buff. plus 2 heavy armor is better then 2 medium

once the vg dies it becomes a dps race in the end so i hope full hms can dish out more damage then amagi hood doy

also whoever is on amagi must wear beaver imo

[real notch]

Yeah and qe buffed vg lasts way longer with the 15%+ Eva

Its just sad almost nobody has 110 hms

U should do it for the fame

[zenith tundra]

but u should give up on yukikaze for some other hms then belfast/aurora

for qe buff to be worth on vg

so u end up with jesus+belfast and/or aurora/hms

@modern tree what vg do u use on hms?

[modern tree]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516951413411020819/560015873587281920/Screenshot_20190326-092117.png

Sheff can be ykkz if you want

[zenith tundra]

i'm just thinking that qe buff is pretty good for vg survivability

if u don't use hms then u kind of lose on that

[modern tree]

15% eva out of 80 is nothing

it matters only for DDs

[zenith tundra]

still u use 2 hms with sheffield buff so it's not bad at all

another vg ship i need to gain xp on i guess

i only need another 34k xp on yukikaze so i guess i'll just switch them around once i'm done

how important is belfast against wasda? i know u need her for amakaga but would jesus yukikaze sheffield work?

guess i'll need to test if her dmg/tankiness are better then yukikaze and her heal/buff

[coral wren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/514333656312053763/561599699413630988/image0.png

should I put belfast on tank

since washington is a kinda dead server. I dont really get ppl to test

[leaden sequoia]

but Belfast is 106 rn

unless I'm misunderstanding something

[zenith tundra]

i read it as 101 sry

or i just confused it with yukikaze lvl...

i would put yukikaze mid and belfast tank then

[coral wren]

oh

so low lvl in mid

[zenith tundra]

i think yukikaze should be the one who last the longest for her buff and heal

and mid position is safest

[coral wren]

I see

ok ty

[zenith tundra]

lvl 110 yukikaze and only 193 affection.... time for 1-1 i guess

[modest elbow]

just bank exp for her

[zenith tundra]

i should but 6x8=48 battles that means another 7+ 7-2

[modest elbow]

up to you, you're the shikikan anyway

[zenith tundra]

subs announced cool

now if they announce that subs will be usable in pvp even better

[vague token]

subs in pvp would be hilarious

[vale juniper]

Submarine just April Fool

I knew that

[zenith tundra]

they would make pvp more interesting tho

[vague token]

you'd have to choose who runs like sonar/depth charges

how to protect them

and stuff

xD

or i guess just make it so sub torps always hit other subs?

man, trying to carry ykk and sara is a bit rough in 110 land now lol

[zenith tundra]

i just put dual oxy on yukikaze so she can mvp carry her ass

with amazon

[vague token]

that would be the smart thing to do

[zenith tundra]

for sara it should be easier

she's strong

[vague token]

she usually doesnt mvp on auto on d3 xD

even at 107 lol

[zenith tundra]

ur farming event lol

[vague token]

trying to get suisei

[zenith tundra]

i'm sticking to 7-2 for money

[vague token]

ah

[zenith tundra]

at least till i get another 113 maybe i'll switch for sheffield

1bp off and it won't drop

[vague token]

oof

oh are you doing 1:1? xD

[zenith tundra]

by all means no... using hiryuu yukikaze amazon mogami for mobs and it's wrecking my oil

[vague token]

oh ok

im just running full 6 fleet for xp

[zenith tundra]

i don't get full xp from 7-2 anymore

[vague token]

rip global warming have some more oil xD

ah

yeah ive been leveling sendai, astoria, ykk, kirishima, sara, and arizona xD

ill swap to like montpelier soon once astoria hits 100

[zenith tundra]

that's a lot of ships

[vague token]

so i can try her in pvp

yeah

i dont play as much as some people so im floating oil

might as well burn it

i probably wont use sendai since she doesnt fit my comp

but i do want to try astoria

[zenith tundra]

i'm running out of awakened ships that aren't capped. rn only sendai and portkai

[vague token]

ah

arizona i feel is always a decent investment

unless rng hates you

xD

[zenith tundra]

she might be but the list of bb is so long that i never end up using her

[vague token]

true

i DO want to meme around with kirishima in pvp someday, but she's low priority for awaken

also she's pretty cool

and she takes her mask off in the dorm

and has a rose

:3

[zenith tundra]

this is looking ok too bad her affinity is not even 120

i want to try her in pvp

[vague token]

needs more gold cuda

xD

[zenith tundra]

i have 1 for her

but need nanoda mvp

[vague token]

oh i see

[zenith tundra]

so i nerf her launch

[vague token]

i gotta say, im impressed you leveled her partner skill

mine's still at level 1

[zenith tundra]

i would use reppu gold cuda instead of that

don't worry

[vague token]

that's better than me

ive only used her on comms

lol

[zenith tundra]

i actually gained affinity on hiryuu till 90 by secretary

[vague token]

ah

if im grinding ill do that

and farm at the same time

speeds things up

[zenith tundra]

i've been stuck with yukikaze now because i like her but i guess i can start again affection farming via secretary

[vague token]

ykk, astoria, kirishima are all 100 affinity

sendai is 99

im assuming she should be close to 100

dorm rng also helps xD

[zenith tundra]

i'll use my sendai for nakaga defense memes lol

[vague token]

heh

i havent seen many sendais on defense

[zenith tundra]

lvl 107 with 171 affection

[vague token]

except on like an overkill fleet of sirius, sendai, aurora

i was like, ok so we trade vanguards then

[zenith tundra]

that is actually legit tho

my juneau yukikaze aurora vanished against that

[vague token]

xD

[zenith tundra]

i think might even be better then torp memes since u don't need rng to delete opponent vg

[vague token]

well

flare rng is hilarious

but then again so is smoke

so it evens out

[zenith tundra]

i think flare is just fine. if it's belfast they go to smoke and hit flare too

[vague token]

yeah, i havent seen enough 110 vanguards to know if i need to swap to port kai again though

[elder crane]

Yep, flare targets closest ship with same timing as smoke, so it usually almost fully overlaps

[vague token]

minne 110 is doing fine but actually hurts things

oh is that how it works?

[elder crane]

Which means flare when bel is there actually decreases RNG, arguably

[zenith tundra]

i like to use it against belfast too

[vague token]

i wish they put more aiming/targeting details in the descriptions xD

but i guess they did update dorks

so

[elder crane]

It's in the skill description, sooo
(the targeting for Sendai's flare)

[vague token]

oh post the update or before

i havent looked since i got her a while back

xD

[zenith tundra]

i never noticed it either

maybe i'm just dumb tho

[vague token]

imma just look now

[elder crane]

I think it was in some patch actually, not on release for us

[vague token]

oh yeah, it says it there

i think that wasnt there

cause the wiki doesnt say that

good job yostar you did a good

[zenith tundra]

it's a welcome description tho

[vague token]

now update interference

[elder crane]

I don't remember seeing it originally too
I retro'd her late, so that's probs why

[vague token]

na it's on the sendai skill

i just looked

(now)

[zenith tundra]

they even changed this

[modest elbow]

what is this sendai skill update you guys are talking about

[vague token]

yeah

[modest elbow]

i don't hab sendai, i can't look

[vague token]

Just the description

[elder crane]

What I mean is, I retro'd her late, so I payed attention to the description after updated text

[zenith tundra]

that wasn't there for sure on doy

[vague token]

the last patch they changed a bunch of descriptions

and names for skills

like Ayaya is just The Demon

instead of Supernatural

they also put in notes for scaling

like sara and lexi gun skill specifically says it scales with Avi

[elder crane]

I remember Sendai skill having the description before the most recent patch though

[vague token]

oh

i dunno xD

i mean honestly

sendai's skill doesnt really even change

with levels

so why would i even look

if i know what it does

lol

heck, why would i even toss her in the academy besides mining fleet

oh it's torp squad now

[zenith tundra]

gonna be hilarious to have max oath lvl 110 sendai with lvl 1 skill

[vague token]

ok that's way better than Mining Fleet

[modest elbow]

i'm just asking around if ever wiki needs something to change

[elder crane]

Idk who the hell translated that originally

[vague token]

now yostar just needs to add skill preview

for barrages

and we cool

so we can see the barrage from center vs side

and the tiered changes

from leveling if it adjusts the bullet count

[zenith tundra]

@modest elbow i would change this
Concerto of Blood Every 40 (20) seconds, fires a barrage. Enemies hit by the barrage have their movement speed decreased by 40% for 6 seconds.
to

it doesn't specify the target

on the wiki

[elder crane]

Same for Sendai

[vague token]

still doesnt say the ammo type

upsettingly

[modest elbow]

can i see sendai's?

[zenith tundra]

(Retrofit) Flares 10 seconds after battle begins, and 20% (40%) chance to activate every 20s after that: deploy a flare for 10 seconds. Enemy ships within the flare have their evasion rate decreased by 25%.

[modest elbow]

thanks

[elder crane]

Oooh "Effect does not stack" afaik no other ships have flare, perhaps another flare ship is planned to be added?

Maybe Naka retro?

[vague token]

huh

naka retro with the same skill would be a little

too clone like

she has torp squad too lol

[elder crane]

I don't remember that part of the desc., might be from most recent patch

[zenith tundra]

maybe other ships but who knows

it's not like it hurts being there

[vague token]

dork's trep of destruction still bothers me

cause they said During battle increase first round

that's like what

the entire battle?

is the first round of each main gun set?

????

wording why

[elder crane]

Oh nvm at least most buff skills, even if only on 1 ship, now have the "does not stack" tag

[zenith tundra]

nah it means it activates in battle and most likely refers to 2nd part of the skill with the debuff

[elder crane]

See leipzig

[vague token]

separate sentence though

[elder crane]

Or Fletcher

[zenith tundra]

wrong punctuation then

[vague token]

cause the way it's worded would make me think that

every first bullet in a MGM use

gets the damage

[elder crane]

Wait, fletcher's class buff still doesn't have the tag

[vague token]

like out of the full MGM 3 shots

[zenith tundra]

it's a bit misleading yeah

[elder crane]

Yeah, "round" is kinda unclear in what it means

[vague token]

first round during battle is super misleading

even if we just assume it only means 1 bullet

out of 6/9

[modest elbow]

i fixed the skills now, if you'd like to look

[elder crane]

Salvo might make more sense, but even then it kinda sounds like only 1/3 of the full 3 sets she fires per reload

[vague token]

yeah

but it's actually just 1 shot out of the entire battle's of shots

[zenith tundra]

i think round should refer to all mg shoots 1st reload but not really clear

[vague token]

which is completely different than using During Battle

[elder crane]

It applies to everything she fires on first reload iirc

[vague token]

although if it did work on every set of shots that would be nice]

instead of just front loaded damage

xD

wish we had a combat dummy

[zenith tundra]

she's already good enough imo

[vague token]

i mean if she whiffs her first shot

half of that skill is literally gone

instead of getting another chance later

which is why her damage flips some much in pvp xD

[zenith tundra]

her 1st salvo is even so wasted in pve outside of elites

[vague token]

oh yeah that too lol

[hot creek]

can yukikaze 1:1 mvp at 7-2?

[blazing scroll]

yes

[zenith tundra]

idk i would 1:2 with amazon

[blazing scroll]

I am doing 7-2 rn with ykk

[zenith tundra]

what backline do u use?

[elder crane]

I would just slap in some 0LB mahans for support/consistency

Then you can literally just run anyone solo main fleet

[blazing scroll]

I lvl my SD too, but ykk still gets mvp

[zenith tundra]

amazon is for xp there u can get 1.7k max per battle and not max skill on amazon

[hot creek]

0LB Amazon?

[zenith tundra]

ofc

[vague token]

maybe i should try houston soon lol

[elder crane]

I got all my CVs to 200 aff at 7-2 with mahans+whatever VG I was leveling/affection farming at the moment

[zenith tundra]

it's max now i forgot lol

[vague token]

actually nvm houston has no base hp

[elder crane]

Nothing +1000 from double +10 toolbox can't solve, usually

[vague token]

houston loses out on her skill if you dont take evade gear

+100% evasion lol

[elder crane]

Oh, I thought you meant leveling her, nvm

[vague token]

but with 3k base hp at level 100 it wont help since sirius and sendai exist

oh no

god level 10 kiri barrage puts so many bullets on screen

why cant the 410 be like that

[zenith tundra]

it would be good then so what's the point...

[vague token]

exactly!

xD

[zenith tundra]

if it's no longer a meme gun than it's worthless

doy outdamaging 2 barrage boats lol

[vague token]

heh

i swear sometimes i think that skill works on all of her gun sets but there's so much flying around all the time i never remember to check xD

cause im an auto boi

[zenith tundra]

i checked in wc sirens and it doesn't

[silver root]

is there a reason why dork is out dpsing those two

[vague token]

rng

also 406 hurts

[zenith tundra]

idk i fought a wasde and that's it

[modern tree]

I had dork one shot a Fox on ocassion, they werent underleveled

[zenith tundra]

also 406 on her so maybe that?

[modern tree]

first shot hitting the backline is auto win

[silver root]

right forgot about the first shot

[vague token]

yeah, it's super inconsistent cause where the 50% boost lands

determines everything

or it just whiffs

xD

[zenith tundra]

i saw doy dealing as much dmg as hood barrage on a fox so she's definitely great

[coral wren]

best gun on her? 406mm or 381?

[zenith tundra]

406 imo it can even help 381 3rd shoot with her 2nd

but the timing is a bit off so hsfcr should make it consistent

[modern tree]

I run 410 because its the most damage per shell, but it also lets QE and my torps use the debuff

[zenith tundra]

with 2 381 no reason to run 410

[vague token]

qe doesnt use 381 on his fleet im sure

[zenith tundra]

i'm saying for me not him

[vague token]

oh right xD

[real notch]

Wasda vs wasda

[ionic magnet]

how long are wasda fights usually? 1:10? 1:30?

oh hey we're getting subs

oh they're special build eh

that i-19 tho

no safe choice between her skins lol

[zenith tundra]

i'm not even gonna try for them

getting i-19 is gonna be a pain

and u-81 too

why the hell are both sr...

idk i think the only sr in pool with limited are the original ones

[ionic magnet]

^

getting subs would be a pain if they don't have rate ups

[zenith tundra]

anything is a pain without rate up tbh

bless event and rate up

good luck

[ionic magnet]

are they even needed in anything

like do you gimp yourself if you dont have subs

[zenith tundra]

from what i heard is faster without them

but with subs we get new things like anti-submarine warfare

[ionic magnet]

dang i wish its not next week

still haven't recovered from ykkz spam

[zenith tundra]

maybe when vdir ends?

or maybe after sara event?

vdir was announced like 4 days before it was implemented

[ionic magnet]

yea most likely next week

[zenith tundra]

maybe not they are added permanently so no need for breaks just like monty

[ivory vine]

wait

isnt centaur in special build too?

rip

[zenith tundra]

she is but not now

[ivory vine]

yeah but i wanted her before subs

cuz idc for these subs

only u47 and now i13

but they're both event ones

centaur is op

[odd schooner]

@cerulean estuary i almost missed an atk cause of this

[real notch]

Optimal situation for wasda it seems

[odd schooner]

My amakaga is not yet rewdy for battle
Sirius aurora still 100 sendai 90

[cerulean estuary]

gurren ur being hypnotized by mitsuki 😃

cant get extra pvp points today , bad Rng match up , always 1 or 2 points difference

smh

[storm pasture]

When mainfleet is wiped out. BB/BC wont use their maingun?

[shy hazel]

mainguns needs long distance

wont shoot if too near

[storm pasture]

But even when their vanguard move to this position, my mainfleet wont attack

[lament lichen]

not far enough

[ionic magnet]

yes still got aotn even with 8 missed rounds

[split socket]

missed 9 attacks still got it

[ionic magnet]

so few peeps rushing

[split socket]

I've been waiting for this 😄 I was always 1-2 pts lower than the required amount to rush, this reset had the lowest pt barrier 😄

[charred raptor]

What is the score for Aotn?

[zenith tundra]

2200+ and top 10

[charred raptor]

OK, then second part is what I'm missing

[shy hazel]

rip completion heh

subs

my completion will prolly drop to 90%

[elder crane]

It's only 2 subs, for now

and the rest of them are events with rate ups or free, iirc

[shy hazel]

theyll prob announce more

[elder crane]

iirc the two announced are the only non-event subs
I stand corrected, my memory apparently fails me hard

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

dace i-19 i-26 i-58 and u-81 are in special pool

if they add more of those...

we might even end up being 4 ships under not just 2 in collection

[hot creek]

fuck subs, give me PR

REEE

[vale juniper]

PR..??

[hot creek]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Research

[vale juniper]

Oohh.. I want Ibuki so bad

[shy hazel]

ask me

just put all of them fast

so can plan what to prioritize

[zenith tundra]

pr as of grinding hell to get useless ships in wait of bps?

[shy hazel]

ima farm pr exp points in 6~1

completion

[vale juniper]

@zenith tundra Ain't useless

Ibuki

[zenith tundra]

till u lvl 30 whatever is called them and get all bonuses they are pretty meh

[hot creek]

don't care, just wanna oath Neptune and spam Headnod in global chat

[zenith tundra]

[ionic magnet]

monarch > all

[vale juniper]

The best ship in Research are just Ibuki n Monarch

That's why I just want both of them

[shy hazel]

doesnt really matter to me

completion is completion

[vale juniper]

Just see their skill each other

[zenith tundra]

ibuki is trash tier tbh as much as i like her

30% barrage on a 20+ sec cd

and torp are pretty bad for auto to boot

[hot creek]

I have raised my Sendai from lvl 60 to 105 purely at 8-1 and still no Inazuma drop

[vale juniper]

@zenith tundra Use her for PvP

Her torp damage higher than Jintsuu or Sendai

[elder crane]

Double preload torps :hnnnng:

[zenith tundra]

meh why would i use her in current pvp

[vale juniper]

Dunno.. Up to you then

[elder crane]

Also she's fairly tanky with decent gun output

[zenith tundra]

(btw ibuki will be my 1st pr to max)

[shy hazel]

mama monarch

[zenith tundra]

u just cannot argue with torp ca being bad

[ionic magnet]

not even talking about her skills. monarch in black qipao is god tier

[vale juniper]

No.. I see strong ship is from her skill

[zenith tundra]

shoot mg wait 5 sec shoot mg wait another 5 sec etc and every 4 cycles u get some torp that will most likely miss

[shy hazel]

about ibuki

if u ask me

[elder crane]

Monarch's high raw stats/eff are just as important

[shy hazel]

two preloaded torps is v good for farming

sirens

in events

not like you need it outside of that

not to mention pr ships has xtra dmg to sirens

but even so mama m first

[zenith tundra]

idk tho she costs 13 oil vs 10 for jintsuu

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

the only things i hate about monarch are her stupid ap barrage and the fact that there are tons of good bb out there

that also don't cost 16 oil to use

[shy hazel]

she technically deals most dmg in hms bbs in practice
tis fineee

[zenith tundra]

because of power creep stats not because her barrage is that good outside of pvp

[shy hazel]

why not hey

higher dmg is still higher dmg

[zenith tundra]

higher cost too tho

[shy hazel]

ill use her for theoretical hms pvp situation anywys

i never use hms on pve

lol

[ionic magnet]

oil cost is prolly the last thing i'll look at in w13 so

[hot creek]

full hms was pretty good at 11-3 boss

[vale juniper]

@ionic magnet W13 is Rain of Dive Bombers :)))

[zenith tundra]

230 aa at lvl 120... definitely 1st choice for w13

[ionic magnet]

higher than most BBs

[vale juniper]

North Carolina will be useful

[zenith tundra]

that is true but also higher cost then any us bb that have better aa

[ionic magnet]

don't really know how hard w13 is, but 1-2 oil cost higher is nothing if you're using 60-70 oils per fight anyways

[vague token]

just accept the global warming and burn it all!

xD

[zenith tundra]

then i have to wait doing nothing

[ionic magnet]

i wonder how jp peeps grind for bunker hill

6 runs a day? lol

[vague token]

ow, full 110 torp amakaga

guess i have to to use hiryuu

[zenith tundra]

i saw plenty of max jintsuu aya aurora comps

[vague token]

i havent seen many yet xD

i keep getting weird ones

like owari lust

with ye olde juneau/belfast/eldridge

and im like now i gotta break out the aurora

[vague token]

beep boop 15 minutes

[real notch]

[cerulean estuary]

[vague token]

[hybrid tendon]

nanoda dies first

i thought she was supposed to be a great tank

or some shit

tried 3 times with nanoda consistently dying first

every time

[coral wren]

if ur talking bout his fleet, then its probs cause she is lv100

[hybrid tendon]

does the 2% bonus affect pvp/

[coral wren]

otherwise

yeah

[shy hazel]

it actually does alot

[hybrid tendon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

still

[shy hazel]

im not sure about nanoda for now anyways

[hybrid tendon]

been encountering some nanoda here and there

even at 110

[shy hazel]

in jp more ppl use cas and less aurora

[hybrid tendon]

she has been consistently dying first

[shy hazel]

and nanoda is the only viable dd

[hybrid tendon]

sitting at the middle slot

no less

[ionic magnet]

cos most peeps use oxy on nanoda

[shy hazel]

probably because of amakaga meta of en still standing

[hybrid tendon]

well

my nanoda is almost 100

time for some testing

i guess

[vague token]

my sara just hit 109 and ykk is 99

soooon

[shy hazel]

ykzz 101

sara 100

lol

[hybrid tendon]

you are using sara in pvp?

[shy hazel]

ultimate pink hair defense meme

[hybrid tendon]

since her dps skill is based con aviation

I'm thinking about just stacking btds on her

[vague token]

yeah im using her

she has a lot of hp

i was like wait 6.1k? xD

and 311 aa

or w/e

at 100

i dont have enough btd or suisei for timing

so im using like firefly, zero, and a btd

and double cata

but my catas arent +10 yet

and my skills are all over

so it's a bit rough

ive had her sneak mvp a few times

just cause the burninator is real

[hybrid tendon]

Just now noticed her first skill is based on avia as well

[vague token]

yeah

gun and burning scale with avi

(and flood)

other nice thing is that once people use ykk, burn + flood rips through hp

xD

cant reduce dots

[shy hazel]

i realized

advanced portion in noob missions

need porty at lvl 100

i never 100 mine

so i guess time to grind

[hybrid tendon]

[vague token]

rip

at least she budget

[shy hazel]

im only missing agano and other one from mq

then gonna wait until i finish light hell

then its special hell

[vague token]

good luck

o7

[cerulean estuary]

good thing my siscon is already max out , needless to say , one of the missions required is RESEARCH , though it is not available in EN as of now

[shy hazel]

oh

complete 15 researches

zulul

anyways i only want the oil

[cerulean estuary]

haha yeah 15 reasearch , well we need the OILS 😃

[modern tree]

FYI every level difference is 2% more damage taken on top of greately decreased evasion rate, so ykkz being 10 levels behind takes 20% more damage and loses a chunk of her evasion, which is on top of a disadvantage defender has regularly. Underleveled ships are an atrocious indicator of ships pvp power.

[ivory vine]

iirc level advantage is in the luck part of the accuracy equation

[modern tree]

considering ykkz eva is not really very high for the class and her luck is 98, I'd say its a big deal

[shy hazel]

you really like your t1

lets see season end

[hot creek]

your contribution is appreciated https://puu.sh/D7U5t/6440bd7a26.png

[vale juniper]

@shy hazel Maybe :"3

@hot creek Shit.. :"3

@hot creek Does my Fleet easy to die when become Defensive Fleet..??

I just wanna know

[hot creek]

well, i had a hard time using underleveled ships against it so not bad 👍

[vale juniper]

@hot creek "Underleveled"..??

BTW thanks..

[hot creek]

I was trying to use my 105 ships to give them XP but they couldnt beat

[vale juniper]

Oohh.. BTW what ship..??

[blazing scroll]

I also appreciate it

[hot creek]

was using 105 sirius, 100 nanoda, 106 sendai. couldn't get away with it

[vale juniper]

@blazing scroll Oh fucc.. Hahahaha

Enjoy +11 even +12 points, guys

[coral wren]

i feel like the poeple who know u here in #pvp and r on ur server re just wait till u try hit rank 1 before they hit u

[blazing scroll]

Lmao

Mine was a coincidence

[hot creek]

thankfully don't have to wait too long

[blazing scroll]

I just beat a defense and got you

[vale juniper]

@hot creek Oohh.. That's still hard.. Still need a long time I think to reach lvl 110

@blazing scroll Hahaha np

[blazing scroll]

I am still wondering if I should use Amagi or Enty

[vale juniper]

@blazing scroll Please take a screenshot while against my Fleet.. I wanna see it

[blazing scroll]

Already beat it tho

[vale juniper]

Deim

[blazing scroll]

Had half hp bar left

[vale juniper]

[blazing scroll]

xD

It was pretty weird tho, because your juneau lived longer than your Kaga and Akagi

[vale juniper]

Because my VG Fleet is a meme

I hope Juneau killed first but she's the last one

[blazing scroll]

[odd schooner]

Why not record

[cerulean estuary]