pvp

[vague token]

wow

[zenith tundra]

didn' notice it

[vague token]

that was fast

[zenith tundra]

mvp farming is easy oath

my lvl 75 sendai has 88 affection already

[ionic magnet]

“oathing for stats“ are you implying sendai is not waifu?

[real notch]

hmmmmm sendai is my type tho

hard on the outside soft on the inside

[zenith tundra]

t0 waifu for me is yukikaze

[ionic magnet]

but ykkz is like 8 y/o

[zenith tundra]

[ionic magnet]

[zenith tundra]

how is this 8

[real notch]

10/10

nanoda

[ionic magnet]

oh wait ok mb shes like 15 y/o acceptable then

[odd schooner]

She gets a wedding outfit too so we're probably out of FBI's radar

[zenith tundra]

i'm wondering if they are going to sell another ring pack with vdir rerun because of that skin

[vague token]

it still confuses me swing isnt the oath skin

[real notch]

they normally sell ring packs with each event

or most events at least

[ionic magnet]

that would be perfect for sendai and ykkz

[zenith tundra]

i'm not sure i want to wait so much for sendai ring

[ionic magnet]

yea it depends

if event is next week then its all good for me

if its not then w/e

[zenith tundra]

it shouldn't be next week unless they do us a favor and make it 1 week break instead of 2

[ionic magnet]

something tells me that its next week

cos technically wc ended last week so thats already a 2 week break next week

or maybe im just bored cos w11 kills my oils too fast

[zenith tundra]

oh yeah forgot about wc

i thought it was w11 the event

it could totally be next week then

[buoyant parrot]

GOOD MORNING NANODA!

[shy hazel]

i got gems for whatever may come

[buoyant parrot]

I can whale through all games I want privileges of being a programmer

[shy hazel]

idunno what being a programmer has anything to do with spending a bit of cash

[vague token]

aka has a job so he's allowed to whale

xD

[finite valve]

have a job > earn money > have excess income > can just whale without a care > profit?

[vague token]

[shy hazel]

iirc

vdir rerun doesnt have skin gacha box

[zenith tundra]

is that even a thing?

[shy hazel]

i like them

got cubes and stuff

[vague token]

oh the 30 dollar one?

[shy hazel]

for value

yeah

[vague token]

i never was sure if those were cost efficient

[zenith tundra]

u meant the bag not box

[shy hazel]

if u mean weapon skins i dont buy that crap

[vague token]

but i got the lunar one

[zenith tundra]

that what throw me off

[buoyant parrot]

having to do with programming means I'm always in front of my computer or mobile which always entice to me to whale things. having that said its more of like a part of me being a programmer IMO

[vague token]

oh

[buoyant parrot]

😂

[zenith tundra]

the bags have better exchange values for gems then buying them without the 2x

[vague token]

ah

[zenith tundra]

i think that makes them worth if u just want gems

everything else is extra

[shy hazel]

its actually almost parity if u alwayz buy the most expensive one

gen case

but the extra stuff

[vague token]

i only bought 1 of each of the lower tier gem sets

[shy hazel]

makea tge box or bag

better

[vague token]

dumping 40 is a bit too much for me

so the bag seemed good

[buoyant parrot]

Left is random shiets mid is AZUR REEEEEEYN right is stupid work

[shy hazel]

i always buy cubes by gems anyways

[vague token]

dedicated AL screen

nice

[shy hazel]

id rather quit than not get 100%

[buoyant parrot]

I can't wait to get Nanoda and dedicate her life to PvP 😂

[zenith tundra]

didn't u miss avrora?

[vague token]

at least she doesnt have to die to use her skill

[buoyant parrot]

Die Zack I don't have her "YET"

[shy hazel]

i have avrora

[vague token]

someday juneau will be protected

then ill add her back

[zenith tundra]

oh mb

[shy hazel]

youre prolly talking about kenobi

[buoyant parrot]

you referring to General Kenobi?

[shy hazel]

ye

you always see him flex is incomplete collection

[buoyant parrot]

I will deal with that Jedi Scum

[vague token]

o.o

[zenith tundra]

the only limited ship i don't have is avrora but still 91% collection. don't really want to spend months on ship drops

[buoyant parrot]

wait PvP Question. Opponent is at 1739 and I'm 3488. Will I get extra points?

[vague token]

who knows?

[buoyant parrot]

[zenith tundra]

i rushed earlier and i got from 1k to 100s in last attempt

[shy hazel]

plus one i think

[zenith tundra]

lots of people stacked up in the 1k

[buoyant parrot]

not bad I'll take it then

[zenith tundra]

even with 4 attempts u don't break 1k unless u have good score

[buoyant parrot]

+28 yummy

[zenith tundra]

there is a big difference in score in between even just 1k and 2k

[shy hazel]

lets see

base score rn for us is

22?

[buoyant parrot]

yup

should be

sergeant is 22

[shy hazel]

if youre 5/10 at least

[buoyant parrot]

I am 5/10

[shy hazel]

20 is next

[vague token]

oops snuck up to rank 3

0/10 though

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

xD

[shy hazel]

151 from first five rounds

good harvest

[buoyant parrot]

171

[shy hazel]

wow hax

[buoyant parrot]

well I got lucky at my very first 5

so many people rushed

I got 2x 33 and 1x 35

[shy hazel]

it will balance out soon in mid season

[buoyant parrot]

Kiroshina apply now

[vague token]

kk

sent

also dear god the character limit

[buoyant parrot]

I said the 1st 5 after reset

I didn;t include my other gains silly

are we not getting new cannons on rerun? just ryusei?

[shy hazel]

just planes

and ships

[buoyant parrot]

we need new AA Cannons

for easy Ch12

[vague token]

i mean extra reppu is nice

[shy hazel]

pr staag

[vague token]

for every mode

[buoyant parrot]

I rarely use reppu

[shy hazel]

i have some ships prepared for w12

noca sandy memes

[buoyant parrot]

My Sandy isn't Oath yet... I'm having 2nd thoughts

[shy hazel]

youll oath her after refit anyways

[buoyant parrot]

well true... But is she that good in PvP?

[shy hazel]

so so

apparently

[vague token]

i imagine she'd be like a better gunner version of sirius

with mgm+1

[shy hazel]

so far no rainbow has been bad

until rainbow prinz happens

[zenith tundra]

she's good against cv but who knows about bbs

[buoyant parrot]

ehhh? I don't even use sirius in the 1st place. Hmmm who to replace once she comes out. I have Nanoda/Jesus/Jintsu

[vague token]

i mean, if rainbow prinz gets like 12k hp or something

she'd basically be bigger port kai

xD

[buoyant parrot]

ahhh bigger port kai

[shy hazel]

20k hp

[vague token]

BIG BULGES

[shy hazel]

[buoyant parrot]

wait what 20k HP for Stupid Dio?

shiet need to check wiki now lol

[marble sparrow]

Even if its just for a moment

[shy hazel]

no

im joking

[buoyant parrot]

oh

[shy hazel]

lol

[buoyant parrot]

lol

😂

[zenith tundra]

considering how ur retro works i would assume she gets some kind of dmg reduction with ridiculous fp stat

[vague token]

if she got a defense skill it would be neat

like an always on version of aegis/prestige/draw fire

to go with her big bulges

[buoyant parrot]

well I'm not sold for San Diego Kai... I'll just use her for chapter 12

[shy hazel]

kms needs tweaking as a whole though not only on a unit

[zenith tundra]

kms needs to disappear only good ship is roon

[shy hazel]

they should at least give tirpitz

[vague token]

oof

[buoyant parrot]

yeah I beleive roon, z23 and Tirpitz the only decent ship we got for KMS feels bad

[shy hazel]

a debuff effect like

amagi

[zenith tundra]

ok forgot about tirp but i hate z23 she's so underwhelming

[shy hazel]

because the brits where so scared of her, they didnt send any ships

to pawn her

but planes

[vague token]

z23 would be good in a land where vanguards had tons of hp to dps down

[shy hazel]

lol

well wow collab two is coming

well see

H class ships

[zenith tundra]

i don't see why i would use z23 outside of a 3 ships comp

and z vg is not that great

[vague token]

i mean, she's basically a tiny roon, gunnery dps and shield proc

[shy hazel]

i heard z2 is great though

[zenith tundra]

i see no z2 in en plus i would get rid of z23 over z46 if so

[buoyant parrot]

I feel bad for KMS, No KMS fleet that can par with IJN or USS

HMS at least have sync

KMS = NOTHING nanoda...

[shy hazel]

kms has actually a strong point

but is useless anywhere

best armor

[vague token]

z46 has like half the firepower

of z23

=(

and has a bait skill in ap damage boost

when dd ap guns are literally trash

[zenith tundra]

not having good backlines kills it all together

[shy hazel]

they need a leadship

like qe

but they wont release bisko anyways

lol

[buoyant parrot]

probably when they release Bismarck

[zenith tundra]

z46 would outdamage z23 any day

[vague token]

lol

is z46's barrage so good that she outdamages z23 with half fire power and lower efficiency?

[zenith tundra]

torpedoes

lol

she doesn't have trash torp stat

[vague token]

xD

i mean torp barrages are weird though to be fair

we have no idea how much the stat actually adds to them

or at least i dont

[zenith tundra]

i used poi for a bit and she's so good

z46 also same maybe even better overall

[vague token]

i mean poi torps hit for like 150 i think?

[modern tree]

Z46 ap skill applies to her barrage btw

[vague token]

yeah, but that just means the power could have been baked in

instead of using a skill

=/

[modern tree]

Gotta spend those red books on something

[vague token]

also why, it says shell damage lol

is that a bug or weird interaction or are her torps ap shells

xD

[zenith tundra]

the problem with z23 dmg is that ca fp with trash dd weapon doesn't help her. maybe mlb gun will make her better but twin 100 is far from a great damaging weapon

[vague token]

i mean even if you slapped a 127 there

you dont have enough time to use it

[marble sparrow]

Hey guys how many days does it take for us to hit the pvp wall
Like how many daily arena tries refreshes

[vague token]

for dd guns to matter

it'd almost be better to meme with belgun on z23 lol

at least you'd get some damage out before dying

[zenith tundra]

what do u mean by pvp wall? @marble sparrow also we get 5 attempts in pvp per reset and there are 3 resets per day

[ionic magnet]

pls z46 might beat z23 in dps but theres no way z46 survives in w11

[buoyant parrot]

maybe he/she refering to the wall like strong players probably the top 100 3 days prior to season ends

[zenith tundra]

have u used lvl 110 z46 plus isn't z46 in tank spot for z vg?

[ivory vine]

z46 has the highest hp of any dd

and evasion is patched up by z1

[ionic magnet]

thats my point, she needs 110 and all the support unlike z23

[ivory vine]

doesnt make her useful in pvp tho

also dd guns outright do more dps than cl guns

[zenith tundra]

and my point is why z23 solo when there are so many better choices

[ivory vine]

so idk what you guys were talking about using belgun on z23

cl guns are actually trash

[ionic magnet]

er like who

[vague token]

no one said to use belgun

i said to meme with it because z23 is a meme in pvp anyways

at least you'd get some front loaded damage out before she melts

xD

[zenith tundra]

cassin downes are better for solo stuff also laffey is better

[ivory vine]

[ionic magnet]

laffey dies after 2 mob fleets in w10 tho

[zenith tundra]

z23 doesn't solo

want me to try?

[ionic magnet]

z23 survives 4-5 mob fleets

i already tried

[modest elbow]

Thought i was in the wrong channel for a sec, you guys weren't talking about pvp

[zenith tundra]

yeah we aren't talking about pvp

[ionic magnet]

mb i just cant let anyone bully z23

[zenith tundra]

the problem is she's not that amazing either

[ionic magnet]

her luck is so underrated

[shy hazel]

i just

[ionic magnet]

lets her survive way better than laffey

[shy hazel]

solo mobs by jintsuu on mob alone

[zenith tundra]

t0 really not even close to true only because of a proc

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

i tried z vg in w10 and they don't survive without having heal like scamcat and unicorn/shouhou at letheal treat level

[ivory vine]

[ionic magnet]

z trio is too costly imo so i just went with laffey+z33 while farming jintsuu; thats why i know z23 tanks better and their dps is really not that different

[zenith tundra]

that's safe level not lethal

[ionic magnet]

safe

[zenith tundra]

safe is not even a challenge

[ionic magnet]

yea but its the comparison on dps/survivability im pointing out

[marble sparrow]

@zenith tundra i mean
How many attempts minimum do we need to climb to top 🤔
For pvp
U knw the place alot of ppl complain they cant climb higher cuz of the rear admiral top 1000 thing

[zenith tundra]

u need all attempts to climb but u need extra points too to get to higher ranks

[buoyant parrot]

Aaaaaaaaaaahhhhh, you can climb that wall it just so happen you guys are not gaining enough points

you need EXTRA points to go beyond 1000

and those 1k players either knows how or unintentionally getting them

[marble sparrow]

@zenith tundra cuz now im in top

I wondering how long it'll take cuz i wanna get the admiral rank before falling back

[ionic magnet]

ah the top 1000 wall

[buoyant parrot]

1000 wall 100 wall and 10 wall

[lament lichen]

the 10 wall

[marble sparrow]

So how long more do i need to maintain this 🤔

[zenith tundra]

for aotn u need 2.2k score and be top 10

[marble sparrow]

2.2k huh..

[ionic magnet]

im so triggered when i was just starting cos i cant break top 1000 wall

[marble sparrow]

Dats awhile away..

[zenith tundra]

it's usually the 2nd friday reset before season end

[vague token]

yeah you gotta hold strong

for a while

[marble sparrow]

I initially wasnt intending to go all in but i realised i accidentely hit this so... Might as well try to maintain

[buoyant parrot]

hang more often here Hometehomete you'll see how people do their stuffs here

[marble sparrow]

Literally just went in to get xp for my ships

🤣

Unintentional top

[ionic magnet]

you sandbagging?

[buoyant parrot]

we have another newbie in the PvP arena

[marble sparrow]

Sandbagging?

[buoyant parrot]

i believe he/she doesn't know what that even means

[marble sparrow]

Yep

[ionic magnet]

[marble sparrow]

I dont

[vague token]

oh boi it's teaching time

z23 sensei give him the details

[marble sparrow]

Such intense typing

[zenith tundra]

i'm not gonna explain it

[ionic magnet]

mm basically you wait for your opponents to do their pvp rounds first before yiu attack them, that way you can gain more bonus pts

[buoyant parrot]

HOMETHOMETE meet ZackFairX he is top 8 so you can always ask him DM him whatever questions you may have regarding PvP

[lament lichen]

lul

[buoyant parrot]

I saved some people

[ionic magnet]

someone pls make sandbagging guide

[zenith tundra]

more people sandbag less points

[ionic magnet]

[marble sparrow]

@ionic magnet yeah i accidentely did that i think cuz i missed first 5 tries then it stocked up to 10 then i attacked earlier just as it reset 🤔

[buoyant parrot]

anywhooo as what ToTu said that's basically the idea

[lament lichen]

the session starts out with 5

doesnt seem like you missed any

[buoyant parrot]

dare I say it??? "Here comes a new CHALLENGER"

[zenith tundra]

this game has a system where it gives u more points for attacking people with higher scores then u so best way to gain points is just wait for opponents to use their attempts and then attack

[marble sparrow]

@lament lichen no i mean i didnt use the 5 immediately 🤔

I let it stock up to 10 cuz i was asleep

🤣

[ionic magnet]

hmm dont think you can get top 1 if you missed 5 rounds, but anyway you should always try to keep your charges at 5/10 or 10/10 and dont miss any more rounds

fight leftmost always andbyou should be fine

[buoyant parrot]

if you miss/lost 1 or 3 attacks you will not get into Top 10 also you have to consider you should always be getting extra points

[marble sparrow]

Cuz 1 of the reset time is at 3am my time 😞

@buoyant parrot i mean.. I havent lost since i changed to my newest setup🤔 thats a good sign i suppose

[buoyant parrot]

my reset time is 9AM 3PM 3AM

[zenith tundra]

that's actually not bad

[ionic magnet]

fellow sea peeps

[marble sparrow]

@buoyant parrot same

[zenith tundra]

i'm literally opposite of that

[buoyant parrot]

I was on Australia a week ago and was expecting to drop out of Arena then the DST crap happened 😂

[marble sparrow]

So.. 9pm 3am 3pm?

[buoyant parrot]

9AM

[marble sparrow]

I used this and beat 13. 5k amagi jintsuu fleet OuO

Sirius support af~

[buoyant parrot]

good thing this is #pvp , I don't entertain Crimson Axis scums...

[vague token]

owo

[marble sparrow]

I just use anything with cat ears ngl 🤔

Or is yandere

[buoyant parrot]

lol!

[vague token]

cat... ears?

[buoyant parrot]

just hang more often here, you'll see what we discuss here and learn from it

[marble sparrow]

@vague token animal ears

[vague token]

oh ok

[zenith tundra]

good choice on ijn ships

[marble sparrow]

@zenith tundra more of coincidence

[zenith tundra]

u'll never fo wrong with ijn

[marble sparrow]

If the us ships had em and ijn didnt i would use us 🤣

I follow where the ears go

[shy hazel]

is gurenn still here

[zenith tundra]

mostly of the ships with animal ears are ijn

[shy hazel]

@odd schooner are u still gonna push

[ionic magnet]

lol animal ears

btw take care of your aurora more

[odd schooner]

@shy hazel i am waiting for Ciel lmao

[ionic magnet]

put her in middle

[shy hazel]

im gonna wait for u to move

[marble sparrow]

My pleb fleet beat this OuO

@ionic magnet i gave her the beaver badge OuO

[vague token]

wow true hero

[ionic magnet]

its not enough and sirius has better bulges so let her tank

[vague token]

thicc bulges

[marble sparrow]

I still sticking to my oath of not resetting pvp tho #HonorableFights

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

oh

[marble sparrow]

@ionic magnet my sirius only lv 75

[vague token]

a true hero

[coral wren]

wow not naming ur waifus. wat is this

[shy hazel]

goodluck gettinv aotn then

[ionic magnet]

oh i see mb didnt see levels

[odd schooner]

@shy hazel in the mean time can you check if my mainguns are actually doing dmg lmao

[buoyant parrot]

I find it funny when you ask someone here if they are moving coz we pretend their not on our farthest left

[odd schooner]

Maybe i need to go back 406

[marble sparrow]

100 more points to hood gun 🤔

[shy hazel]

your in my rightmost pls

i may accidentally kill u fast

[buoyant parrot]

such disguise

[shy hazel]

[buoyant parrot]

[odd schooner]

Just test it out

[shy hazel]

don wan to risk

[odd schooner]

[marble sparrow]

So hood gun confirmed better than 406 for amagi?

[ionic magnet]

[buoyant parrot]

damn you sandbaggers

[zenith tundra]

406 is really bad for amagi

[buoyant parrot]

[ionic magnet]

hmm better than 406 for sure

[zenith tundra]

use 381 for pvp or 410

[shy hazel]

if u meant 410

410is almost parity

[marble sparrow]

Oh wait, 410 sorry 🤣

Mixed em up

[shy hazel]

u lose 0.7 reload

[zenith tundra]

i use 381 for pvp and 410 for pve

[marble sparrow]

410 vs core shop hood gun

[shy hazel]

for higher dmg

[buoyant parrot]

@marble sparrow follow this on your Amagi and you'll be in safe hands

[vague token]

belgun eww

[ionic magnet]

i want my hsfcr

[marble sparrow]

@buoyant parrot yeah only thing im lacking is the main gun

[shy hazel]

the time u get yours

is the time we get two

[elder crane]

For PvP, the gold 127 is better than belgun probably

though the diff is pretty minimal, and the 155 is better PvE anyways

[marble sparrow]

@shy hazel i was really lazy

[buoyant parrot]

reason I'm using Belgun because I have WASD and Jesus

[odd schooner]

Min maxing ye

[shy hazel]

hfcr is broken lul

[vague token]

oh ok

[zenith tundra]

i would use belgun over 127 if akaga wasn't a thing

[elder crane]

The extra AA stat is pretty useful, yeah

[odd schooner]

@buoyant parrot i use 127mm to further reduce plane dmg

[buoyant parrot]

there you have it ☝

[vague token]

obviously best meme is to use 100mm for most aa

jk

[elder crane]

its about a -5% aviation damage with the 127

[odd schooner]

[buoyant parrot]

Amakaga isn't my issue. I'm more to lose against Mirror

[odd schooner]

Is it trump again

Just use faster guns

[buoyant parrot]

damn that donald trump

[odd schooner]

Lmao

[buoyant parrot]

😂

[vague token]

the wall xD

[marble sparrow]

My amagi rn

[elder crane]

Ehh, I face him every once in a while but never seem to have trouble

[odd schooner]

I am trying out fast gun atm to cover enterprise people too

[elder crane]

idk why

[odd schooner]

He meant mirror wasda

Unless you're wasda too

[marble sparrow]

I called all my ships enterprise kek

[odd schooner]

You can break trump wall with foxes

But ofc with time penalty

[buoyant parrot]

[elder crane]

I faced him with mirror too, didn't have issue
This was a while back though, maybe he's since optimized (haven't used WASDA in forever)

[marble sparrow]

Wats mirror

[vague token]

a mirror match

[elder crane]

Same setups

[buoyant parrot]

Mirror = Same fleet

[marble sparrow]

Oh

Havent met a full mirror match yet cuz i dun see anyone using sirius bae

😏

[buoyant parrot]

before the DST scrap a lot of people here doing experiments

[elder crane]

I've only ever faced one person running my Hiryuu fleet
And it was fully unoathed, so... XD

[buoyant parrot]

right now cannot afford to do experiment coz opponents are on 110 cap

[vague token]

there's only a few non-amakagas here atm i think

[buoyant parrot]

oh and most people here don't use Amakaga

we tend to battle whats meta

😂

[elder crane]

Amkaga is the best rushing fleet, so ppl maxed that first probs

I know I did

[ionic magnet]

we're not masochists

[zenith tundra]

i think i'm only left around here that uses amakaga alwys

[vague token]

if only i had an akagi

xD

[elder crane]

Hiryuu setup is just more consistent and easier on resetting to boot
And I expect, with lv110, and soon ykkz, It'll only get better

[marble sparrow]

@vague token GET BACK IN THE FOXMINES

[buoyant parrot]

But I thought your going WASDA @zenith tundra

[marble sparrow]

[vague token]

never

[marble sparrow]

[vague token]

ill go back when akagi's secretary mission is released

[marble sparrow]

^^

[buoyant parrot]

didn't you mentioned that like last week

well before the Cap at least

[zenith tundra]

i would do that if nagato wasn't close since farming 2 rings on wasd is not a thing i want to do

[buoyant parrot]

Ahhhh

[zenith tundra]

i would 100% use wasd if i had them oathed

[elder crane]

Next event is Vdir rerun, and I think they'll probs avoid 2 back to back IJN

so Nagato not close, maybe

[zenith tundra]

nagato is in may

2 months from now

[buoyant parrot]

well I'll go back HMS when Monarch and WS Kai comes in

[zenith tundra]

plus i used akaga in wasde meta so i'll stick to it even if meta is wasda

[elder crane]

HMS meta just means attacker wins most of time again, I think XD

Positioning and all

[buoyant parrot]

Yeah I kinda feel that WASDA is becoming meta again... I might change to something if that where to happen

[marble sparrow]

So far im fine against WASDA 🤔

[zenith tundra]

i can totally see nanoda making wasda a wall for me tho

[buoyant parrot]

yes yes NANODA is win!

[marble sparrow]

My aya nukes down the washy before sdak like a good girl

[buoyant parrot]

too much WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALL

[marble sparrow]

And my kaga ryusei usually breaks enemy enterprise

Or watever the 3rd ship is

[buoyant parrot]

oooohhh someone uses Ryusei look ☝

[zenith tundra]

ryuusei is the best way to kill stuff

[marble sparrow]

^^

[zenith tundra]

i use ryuusei by default now

[elder crane]

RNG though, Barras more consistent

[marble sparrow]

Ryuusei is good at preventing operation rainbows too

[elder crane]

Lol at Eld ever being an issue XD

[zenith tundra]

i use ryuusei for 2nd airstrike not 1st

[buoyant parrot]

I feel happy when defender uses Ryusei 😂

[zenith tundra]

when vg are already dead

[buoyant parrot]

there are times it goes NORTH

[elder crane]

Barra suicide damage means it's still better there imo

[buoyant parrot]

😂

[vague token]

i like it when they use ryuusei and then you negate all torp bombers by strafing xD

0 backline pressure

[elder crane]

2nd strike means little AA damage left

[marble sparrow]

My ryusei ignores frontline alot of the time 🤔
Insta knock out someone in the back

[zenith tundra]

i think u underestimate how much dmg kaga ryuusei can do on heavy armors without vg around

[marble sparrow]

^^

[buoyant parrot]

One time I'll try Amakaga just for the lols, right after my WASDA cap

[marble sparrow]

Fear the white smug fox waifu

[zenith tundra]

have fun awakening useless foxes lol

[buoyant parrot]

its understandable that Ryusei can knock out 1 back in an instant but its somewhat questionable if one of the sister dies on 2nd Salvo

[vague token]

also, as a hiryuu user

yes please use ryuusei

so i can dodge it

[marble sparrow]

@buoyant parrot just dont die :)

[vague token]

xD

[buoyant parrot]

Hiryuu is a different story that shit is wall

[zenith tundra]

u don't usually die on offense before 2nd airstrike tho

[buoyant parrot]

ahh that makes sense

[zenith tundra]

i even made my akaga last till 3rd against ur wasda

[buoyant parrot]

OOOOOOH?!! Fascinating!

go on do more selling I go Amakaga after my WASDA project

[zenith tundra]

the only thing that really snipes foxes in wasda is amagi

[buoyant parrot]

yeah that's given

[marble sparrow]

I wonder if i fought anyone of u and just never noticed 🤔

[zenith tundra]

and i put my amagi on her

[vague token]

does amagi solo kill her fox?

without any help?

just curious

[zenith tundra]

don't remember but she killed my fox before 3rd airstrike for sure

[marble sparrow]

[elder crane]

2 barrages almost does it

3 barrages does

[vague token]

i know mine needs assist

1 barrage plus dork plus cuda splash does it before 2nd strike

if i get final counter it's basically 100%

[zenith tundra]

the thing is wasd doesn't need vg to win

[elder crane]

2+a hiryuu strike does it, is what I;m sure

[zenith tundra]

it will shoot u down with just shells

[elder crane]

It actually does better if the vanguard trades out quickly

[zenith tundra]

especially with the aa wall it has

[elder crane]

Best WASDA vanguard dies after opposing vanguard launches 2nd set of torps (or wins vanguard fight before that)

[buoyant parrot]

it would be more fun for WASDA once Nanoda comes out

[zenith tundra]

that's why u want to nerf ur vg against that... i wan to try jesus nanoda x against wasda

just let ur foxes do dmg on main fleet with ryuusei and touchdown damage and stall enemy vg as much as possible so u don't take bb shoots on akaga

[marble sparrow]

Wat makes hiryuu combo scary 🤔
Or isit something after retro

[zenith tundra]

1 extra airstrike she gets when she "dies"

[marble sparrow]

Oic

So final banzai

[zenith tundra]

Once per battle, upon taking lethal damage: become invincible and evade all attacks for 5 (15) seconds; simultaneously, launch an additional airstrike.

[buoyant parrot]

she becomes even more OP when her Retro comes

[marble sparrow]

I wanna fight a hiryuu fleet now

Sounds fun

[elder crane]

Wait a week for mine, as I level stuff up XD

So many ships, so few chips

[buoyant parrot]

@marble sparrow make sure you live up until last 6 days of Season, You'll be battling most people here often

[marble sparrow]

Okay i will do my best OuO

Unless i fall asleep and forget 🤔

But i'll try not to

[buoyant parrot]

dont lose and forget

always attempt higher score

[marble sparrow]

Basically keep refresh for top 10 ppl and keep beatinf em?

[buoyant parrot]

sort of

Good Luck

[zenith tundra]

don't rush ur attempts is the best way overall

[marble sparrow]

@zenith tundra okay

Next reset is.. 3pm.right 🤔

[buoyant parrot]

yup

[zenith tundra]

next reset is in 4:30

[buoyant parrot]

well for our time at least

he/she is SEA

[marble sparrow]

Is this anyone of yall

[zenith tundra]

what server are u on?

[marble sparrow]

Avrora

[zenith tundra]

cool

[coral wren]

wow u are so high rank already! u must be great at pvp

[zenith tundra]

i would assume anyone around here is way back like 3-4k rank rn

[buoyant parrot]

yuup

[coral wren]

all these noobs here are not even close to top 100 and they call themselves pvp pros

[buoyant parrot]

that sounds right

[coral wren]

[zenith tundra]

i'm only one around 700 because of testing

[marble sparrow]

@coral wren i just fight most left and look away 🤔

[buoyant parrot]

im sad im at 4k~

[coral wren]

wow. I am like at 6k rank LOL how are u so good

[marble sparrow]

I dont knw. Ngl

[ionic magnet]

[marble sparrow]

🤣

[buoyant parrot]

[marble sparrow]

Im like that 1 oblivious guy that ends up here like

Wut.

[buoyant parrot]

sandbagging at its finest~

[coral wren]

feelsbadman

[buoyant parrot]

damn son

[marble sparrow]

I mean.. U use hiryuu,mad respecc

[buoyant parrot]

wut you nub???

😂

[shy hazel]

[coral wren]

yeah sorry I am noob. I use Hiryuu

I try to stall enemy team when I am attacking

[buoyant parrot]

lol!!!

I might go for Hiryuu just for the lols

[marble sparrow]

Wait stalling in pvp? 🤔

[zenith tundra]

killing enemy is best stalling tho

[buoyant parrot]

thats perfect

[marble sparrow]

Yeah just beat them up

[buoyant parrot]

but that rarely happens

[marble sparrow]

They cant beat u if they are ded 😏

[shy hazel]

pvp toplisters dobt call themselves pros

we call then pro sandbaggers

[ionic magnet]

minnea

[shy hazel]

scumbaggers

[marble sparrow]

Pvp minnie 🤔

[shy hazel]

[coral wren]

she is just there for exp.

she is freaking useless in pve for some reason

[shy hazel]

hey gurrenn

[lament lichen]

minnie t0

[shy hazel]

move alrdy

im out of resets

[coral wren]

empty all 10

[lament lichen]

im waiting for taeyeon to waste all his attacks

[buoyant parrot]

lol

[coral wren]

give him a good boy

[lament lichen]

[marble sparrow]

Minnie useless in pve wt

[ionic magnet]

idk who is trolling who anymore

[marble sparrow]

Wat*

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

whoolooloo

[zenith tundra]

why would u use minne on def tho she doesn't get exp from being there

[buoyant parrot]

why don't you guys spend all your attacks now so you won't forget later 😏

[shy hazel]

[coral wren]

lemme tell uwhy minnea is tier 0 in pvp. she is CA so aurora counter = noty.
she has cheat death. so she can survive first strike.
she uses 203 so she do big HE dmg to enemy DDs and CLs

[ionic magnet]

forgetting attacks? nice meme

[shy hazel]

its a trap nanoda

[buoyant parrot]

[coral wren]

my def and off are same fleet.

easier to equip gear

[zenith tundra]

that's assuming u can actually land 203 shoots

[coral wren]

I reset if she dosnt hit shots with 203

[lament lichen]

can land if they dont move

[coral wren]

[marble sparrow]

@coral wren she cant cheat death if we do more dps than she heal 😏

[shy hazel]

[coral wren]

she is CA so she have alot of HP

[lament lichen]

why cheat death if you can overheal

[marble sparrow]

No amount of hp can take a ryuusei to the face

[shy hazel]

and cas takes 80% more dmg from cvs

[coral wren]

I use double toolbox to give her extra thicc 1k hp

[zenith tundra]

for stalling better portkai then

[shy hazel]

id rather just out phoenix

anyways why not

[marble sparrow]

Phoenix pve mob team in pvp

[shy hazel]

if it works for him

at least thats one def fleet easier to rekt when rushing

[lament lichen]

oh we rushing now

[coral wren]

I dont think even would attack me. cus I am so noob at 7322 rank

[marble sparrow]

I feel like my lv 75 sirius in pvp is so bait 🤔

[zenith tundra]

people who play for score don't really care about who they attack unless they test

[empty sinew]

oooh, flares actually indicate who gets evasion debuff'd

noice

[zenith tundra]

range is

[empty sinew]

it's pretty wide tho

[buoyant parrot]

which reminds me, I haven't fought someone yet using Sendai

[empty sinew]

about as wide as smokescreen

[zenith tundra]

if ur unlucky it might just end up in a corner

my lvl 80 sendai is good for u?

[coral wren]

DJ Khalid: Congrats u played urself

[empty sinew]

i doubt it tho, since it will shoot the nearest grill
most likely it'll just overlap the smokescreen

i hope

[buoyant parrot]

put sendai in your def please~

[zenith tundra]

i mean yeah but a speed meme team would make it hard for it to land

and nanoda is coming

[buoyant parrot]

[empty sinew]

yukikaze-sama breathes NANODAAAA

[buoyant parrot]

yup Nanoda Intensifies~

[zenith tundra]

i think speed memes will be more and more a thing since bb more used and sendai

[stark dagger]

Anyone gonna replace a ship with Yukikaze when she is released?

[zenith tundra]

i'm running amakaga so maybe jintsuu but who know

[empty sinew]

imma replace bel

ma tank will now be nanoda

cuz why not, her yellow skill is also useful af

[zenith tundra]

and ur vg dead against amakaga

[empty sinew]

except nanoda

[zenith tundra]

amakaga defense with sendai jintsuu aurora will pretty much kill anything without vg defense

[empty sinew]

yet torp fronts are used by many

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[zenith tundra]

sendai is a good torp boat and she'll bost both jintsuu and aurora even more

also i meant amakaga killing vg not torp

[empty sinew]

but no doubt, nanoda will live cuz of her luck + blue skill

unless she gets really unlucky somehow

[analog hare]

I sometimes inspect top 100 rank to see their backline and found out

• 50% Commander using Amakaga
• 15% Commander using wasdA/E
• 20% Commander using random backline
• the rest 15% is meme
  Summary = Amakaga is cancer

[zenith tundra]

i think if amakaga can kill cls she'll die too because her evasion will be way lower and her ehp even with 25% dmg reduction is not much better then a cl

what makes nanoda tanky is her 25% dmg reduction that gives her almost cl hp but dd evasion stat

if u cut her evasion she's not that tanky

[empty sinew]

that's the same for every dd tbh

[analog hare]

it's 25% null dmg so I guess it still relevant even if her evasion is cut out, the only weakness Yukikaze is burn damage from BB

[split socket]

amakaga def is complete trash though

[empty sinew]

and i just realized, aurora + sendai = -45% eva

[zenith tundra]

all i said is that she isn't much tankier then a cl without her high evasion

and new amakga meta will be sendai aurora

[coral wren]

wow got a +5 from a 2k rank

[shy hazel]

imstill planning to run jint aurora nanoda though

unless i wanna go full torp and use sendai

instead of nanoda

[zenith tundra]

why jintsuu tho

[shy hazel]

still best torp dmg

👀

[zenith tundra]

i know that but why use her over sendai

[shy hazel]

relying fully on cv seems

unreliable to me

[zenith tundra]

u rely on akaga because it's rng free comp

[shy hazel]

from what i observe

sendai cant really wipe or decrease enemy vg as much as jint

not to include jint has way higher crits and survivability

at least i seldom see other server

using solo sendai

than seeing ppl using

solo jint

in pvp

[vague token]

i mean jint is a huge damage steroid

[zenith tundra]

before we even end up testing it... the amount of exp needed for 110 is cancer for vgs

[shy hazel]

just awaken them asap to gain exp in pvp

[zenith tundra]

main fleet leveling is so much easier then vg

[shy hazel]

idont think sendai will shake current meta rn

just will invalidate some ppl who use belly

[zenith tundra]

i think she's better on defense myself

[shy hazel]

so ill just grind her up with nanoda

just gon skill up skills

lol

[zenith tundra]

tbh what i want to try is like nanoda jesus aurora

or what u said

[shy hazel]

so youre taking the full defensie vg stance

jun and nanoda backline heals

lol

[zenith tundra]

i would use that against any bb comp tbh

on def might be more interesting with sendai and aurora so akaga can just kill enemy vg and force a reset

like jintsuu aurora sendai

ultra offensive so u can kill vgs

i just rushed 2 attempts and went from 1.5k to 1.2k wtf

and with 1 more from 1.2k to 800

there is a big gap in scores around the 1-1.5k ranks

[buoyant parrot]

so it looks like there's a bunch of people who lost their matches

lel expecting that coz of the Lv Cap

[ionic magnet]

noones moving

[zenith tundra]

i moved i went from 1.5k to 62

[ionic magnet]

woa you're ditching this season?

[zenith tundra]

testing

[ionic magnet]

i see

[buoyant parrot]

more of like a GAMBLE to me

[zenith tundra]

i want to make something like this
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11pXT0P1woKxjTrXIFCTa60XERLURiE0xCflWsNTQXsM/edit#gid=1410573256

for all the season

[buoyant parrot]

fascinating

[ionic magnet]

dang

[buoyant parrot]

keep me posted then

[ionic magnet]

[real notch]

[leaden sequoia]

[real notch]

how's everyone's PVP season coming along

[leaden sequoia]

got +31 an hour ago

now 198, 8/10

I'm so gonna eat penalties for that when I rush an hour later

[ionic magnet]

noone is moving now and im still 8/10

[leaden sequoia]

at least I'm 1 point lower than top 1

that makes me happy about my pro PvP skills

oh, now 2 points lower

[coral wren]

fuck this stupid server .I got a 27 and then I just used all of them <.<

I wish I had u on my list Oxide

[leaden sequoia]

but I'm sandbagging, you won't reap much benefits from having me

[coral wren]

thought u went all in

I guess u were just counting score

[leaden sequoia]

yeah

[coral wren]

When sendai and yuki hit live, will it be jin sen and yuki vanguards all over?

[odd schooner]

Aurora Sendai yukikaze

But iirc ykkz is for def

[ionic magnet]

aaaand missed 2 charges

[leaden sequoia]

29, 31, 25, 20, 20

rushed 2 last ones

[ionic magnet]

fk work messing my sandbagging life

[leaden sequoia]

your numbers look more consistent

[ionic magnet]

it was not fun watching the reset timer tick with 7/10 charges

[marble sparrow]

So... Pvp refreshed

Shld i wait longer before attacking

[lament lichen]

just do your attacks when you wake up

[vague token]

[marble sparrow]

Wow this number 4 guy is scary...

I barely won

Typical amagi fleet but his akaga hurt alot more than the others i've met 🤔

[leaden sequoia]

or 110 Akaga

or everything above together

someone at 600-700 position gave me +24

tnx someone

I used up all 5 refreshes to pick up those who'll likely to rush, in my opinion

before reset

yeah, just wait imo

you still have 12h before next reset

well, 11.5h

[marble sparrow]

Ima wait till tmr when i have full charge to hit again

[leaden sequoia]

noice, another +24

TIL Wash PvP is not so dead as I thought previously

or something has changed there that I'm not aware of

[vague token]

ooh

IT'S ALIVEEEE

jk

[leaden sequoia]

[vale juniper]

I'm fucced out from 2k+ rank and now 5

[zenith tundra]

someone on avrora that could do me a favor and when he re members just take a screenshoot of rank 1 right before new reset? i'm gonna do it myself but i miss some resets and i want to collect some data on scores

[vague token]

ill try to remember after i wake up

xD

[zenith tundra]

u dont have to do it but if u remember it would be helpful

[ionic magnet]

hmm next reset is 3am for me so count me out

[zenith tundra]

i miss daily and one after because of work and sleep

[vague token]

oof

[zenith tundra]

for everyone that does just ping me the picture

[vague token]

just awakened sirius to 105 now

not enough exp though

she's 104 xD

[zenith tundra]

my next one is jintsuu to 110 and with extras aurora

[ionic magnet]

my kaga is still 106

so pain to level foxes

[zenith tundra]

pve 1st doy then phoenix the cassin/downes then portkai

[vague token]

still working on hiryuu atm

amagi and dork are 110 though

owo

xD

im just farming 9-3 for nich again

i got sendai just getting the stage to clear 3 stars lol

[zenith tundra]

i got jintsuu in 3 days of farm and sendai in 2

[lament lichen]

No sendai with no threat lvls left to clear

[zenith tundra]

at least u can farm her cheaper

[jovial sedge]

These filthy lucky bastards

No sendai or jintsuu... bs ships I wondr if I should contact dev... if this is how its supposed to work like di 400x 10-4 get no jintsuu

[vale juniper]

Hahahaha

I just can laugh already burn 40k+ oils still no Jintsuu

I'm fine.. Hahahahaha~

Jintsuu doesn't exist

[buoyant parrot]

I started farming Akagi before for 3 weeks I didn't complain

[vale juniper]

I got Kaga 3x then got Akagi 1x after 2 months got Kaga

My mouth maybe can smile and laugh but heart is crying

[buoyant parrot]

that's fine, you do get ships eventually

In my case I love PvP and I love fleet ranking same goes for collection. I have all ship except Avrora

so that explains im so Numb to failures now. You just have to be patient until you die

[steep fog]

finished with 3 star w11

[buoyant parrot]

if it didnt work try HARDUR or wait longer

[steep fog]

columbia farm can wait

back to w9 I guess

[vale juniper]

Lvl 80 already got all 3 stars in W11 but still no Sendai

I'm fine :)))

I just luck getting Gold Gear..!!

That's why I care to PvP..!!

[buoyant parrot]

[zenith tundra]

i cant stop sanbagging even when i try rushing only... 2nd time i attacked high rank even i was not supposed to

[coral wren]

Sirius or belfast? Assuming sirius only has 14%bonus?

[zenith tundra]

for what comp?

[dense lynx]

what does sandbagging in AL mean?

[zenith tundra]

sandbagging means keeping ur score low so u can get extra bonuses and reach higher ranks later on

[coral wren]

Akaga/amagi back, front is aurora/ayami

Having sirius or belfast fill till jinstuu decides to drop

[zenith tundra]

blefast should be better overall

[dense lynx]

belfast or sirius? (w/ jintsuu)

[zenith tundra]

u can skip jintsuu and go for aurora sendai belfast/juneau

[steep fog]

whats best atttacking amakaga team in current meta?

[zenith tundra]

u mean as vg?

[steep fog]

yea vg

[zenith tundra]

at lvl 100 best vg was aurora jintsuu juneau

[dense lynx]

how about jintsuu aurora sendai

[zenith tundra]

with sendai and lvl 110 still need time to test stuff because not everyone is max level

that a really good vg at least for nakaga. should work just fine for amakaga too

[steep fog]

my foxes still lvl 100

grinding CV

[dense lynx]

[zenith tundra]

yukikaze might also be a viable choice for anakaga

[ionic magnet]

@coral wren alternatively, just drop aya if you don't have jintsuu yet and then use belfast and sirius

aya w/o jintsuu is not that good

o wait he needs ijn nvm

[zenith tundra]

i dont think u can drop aurora for sendai. at best u can go jintsuu aurora yukikaze

[steep fog]

ykkz barrage

[zenith tundra]

yukikaze is amazing and would make amagi even better. she's definitally an alternative to juneau

but not sure if foxes are tanky enough even with amagi to make full use of her buff

[steep fog]

what buff?

[zenith tundra]

8% damage reduction to main fleet

not burn dmg tho

[steep fog]

sadly her torp barrage not homing

[zenith tundra]

the problem is: is her buff + heal better then just jesus heal?

[dense lynx]

how does luck work exactly?

is luck fixed

or can they be increased

[steep fog]

fixed

ship not sunk irl = high luck

[dense lynx]

because of evasion?

[zenith tundra]

i wondef if any of the airspace things will apply to pvp too

that would make cv a bit more interesting in 120 meta

no point in complaining but the chenges look like trash for pve... even with 20% dmg i wouldn't bother with any non support cvs

[split socket]

idk how it's in w12 but so far it's not too bad

I see enty getting mvp more often than tirpitz when used in escort, but even when bossing

since shells have a tendency to miss entirely due to enemies moving out of the way

what am I missing? sup with the airspace owo?

[ionic magnet]

whats this airspace thingy?

[zenith tundra]

the problem with the system is: 1 cv dmg is trash and 20% of trash is still trash. 2 cv will lose planes making their damage even more trash. 3 if u don't run cv u lose acc and evasion if u run cv u lose dmg... loss-loss with no benefit

[split socket]

I just read the patch notes but I don't see any numbers?

[zenith tundra]

my enty buffed with shouhou and doy debuff dealing 30k dmg in 11-1 is not gonna be 100k

[split socket]

where did u get 20% from?

[zenith tundra]

cv are trash at doing that because of bomb boats

not because of damage

and running 2 ships instead of 1 is dumb if u can do it with only 1

nothing about this change is useful for players in any world outside of the last 1

they can make it plane hell with infinity planes coming at u

it still wont make the airspace thing less dumb in w6-7-8

[elder crane]

Less ambush chance is nice to have I suppose

[zenith tundra]

sure have u seen the negative??

[elder crane]

You can just stack the CV in Boss fleet

[ionic magnet]

allows for more options i guess so thats always a plus

[split socket]

I see only plus tbh owo

[zenith tundra]

how is forcing u into a cv a good option

[split socket]

so hows forcing us into bb a good option?

its the same thing

[elder crane]

Ambush chance the same thing as well

[split socket]

now we can't just slap 1 bb onto fleet and call it a day

[zenith tundra]

u can use cv if u want rn but u won't be able to not use cvs with that

[elder crane]

To incentivise bringing DDs

[split socket]

also they are nerfing w1-12

[zenith tundra]

-evasion and accuracy and more air dmg sounds so fun

[split socket]

seems like a lot of balance changes

too early to even say what works or not

[elder crane]

Just like how ambushs make bringing only CA bad, idk what problem is

[ionic magnet]

you just said cv is trash so you could stay with BBs if you want; its just more options

[zenith tundra]

it's not more when u lose 8% acc and evasion for not using cvs

[split socket]

also personally, I like it cause I like using cvs 😄

[elder crane]

Ehh, I don't see CVs having issue in PvP really, so probs not

[ionic magnet]

sirius indirect buff

[split socket]

if I could, I would remove all BB/BC from my fleet

planes ftw

[elder crane]

Mostly cause they already corrected for CVs in PvP with new ships/skills ever since, like, Nagato

[zenith tundra]

if the dmg buff would be for everyone and not a 20% dmg boost to 0 would be better

[split socket]

inb4 sirius t0

[zenith tundra]

airspace makes cvs more viable by cutting other ships viability

[elder crane]

I don't see the issue with that

[ionic magnet]

atleast cvs have a place in pve now

[zenith tundra]

can go fuck themselves

[elder crane]

Buff 1 same thing as Nerf everyone really

[split socket]

can't please everyone

[zenith tundra]

there's the place for cv

[elder crane]

Especially since they adjusting content too

[ionic magnet]

im getting tired of my BBs already so its all good to me

[zenith tundra]

they need to remove bomb boats and i will use cv