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NightRaven
1 day left for this SEASON a start of a clean one
next season gonna be a rusher so i can collect data on score so rip me
lol
rip
god the struggle of hiryuu level advantage
now her final counter procs at a weird time
against these people who havent done awakening
fascinating, I'm also preppin my Hiryu for Kai coz its OP in PvP
hiryuu is my fox counter when you dont have a mirror of your own xD
is she as frail awakened or she last longer against same level ships?
oh, i mean when these guys who havent awakened
so her boosted hp/evade is making her final counter late
i usually like it to be timed close to her first air strike
so it rolls through second amagi barrage
but applies enough backline pressure so amagi has an easy confirm kill on bottom
i was curious if just awakening makes her less squishy
for namagi purposes ofc
well, hiryuu doesnt go mid in namagi right?
so she'll be tankier on sides
"tankier"
nagato is flagship
yeah
so she wont have to worry about eating the same hits as mine does now
since she soaks all suicide and amagi barrage and torps
in mid position
owo, owari da with aim torps
dont mind me while i just sidestep
NightRaven vs Sandyverse for top pvp guild in the future

when pvp and guilds are given sense
oh boi
Guild still useless
they dont have to, but they should
i can see a borrow fleet from guildmate feature
and that fleet will be like sub system
fully automated
lol
I'll never join the guild until guild feature is useful
in guild pvp trial system
I have a few PVP questions.
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Should I only use the HE Belfast gun on Belfast, and use Tbtsk on my other light cruisers, or should I give everyone Belfast guns?
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Is using advanced boilers on CAs and CLs supposed to help them avoid battleship barrages and torpedos?
where u fight exerciseswith your guildmate
belfast gun is bad but good for he
if its pvp
there's like no reason to use tbtsk in pvp atm unless you have an AP skill
ucan slap one or twoin vg
@shy hazel Oohh.. I think still nope.. Not interesting at all
belgun dmg has best modifiers for light and medium armor so u use that
@shy hazel Yeah.. Maybe next year
atm we dont have many medium armors in meta unless port kai or whoever is getting boosted by 110
well i hope they make something out of guilds by the time beta ends
Yup!
But this game following JP server
I think in JP server's guild still same..??
Just for saltying your guild friends
i think even in jp guilds are pretty pointless
That's why I hate guild feature in this game.. Ahaha~
i haven't spent gems on it so i don't really mind it 
Ahaha same
guilds are for raiding global chats
alright
so for the sake of PVP and theorycrafting
i've decided to start raising sirius

according to some other servers, some people are hardcore preaching sirius as next god-tier VG ship
pfft
so i'm thinking fuckit why not
i'm retarded when did i switch chat
from what i've tested so far, Sirius is pretty lackluster.
i personally find her useful with my team since i cant contest the fox air strike
so aurora just melts
she got 3 impressive things. 2 of them have nothing to do with the gameplay at all and the last one is her buff that is quite nice in pvp to kill vgs with CVs.
yeah, but it doesnt get you kills that aurora or sendai dont already do
well
she p tanky though, which is nice
like, the time to kill wont change by adding sirius
in serious consideration, (heh) sirius is meant to replace jintsuu
i feel like that lowers your alpha damage though
her strengths are +40% FP boost, boost CV dmg, 330 AA, a fat 3.3k HP
aLpHa dAmAgE
as opposed to a 2.5k jintsuu (effectively 3k with dmg reduction) with great torp stat and nothing else
jintsuu also somewhat buffs group torp but as we all know torps are not very consistent
well, the difference comes from the torp crits vs aviation/accuracy
sirius can tank and u lose nothing when she dies
judging from CN/JP servers
jintsuu is the first of the IJN VG meme to be removed
when VG variants are crafted
aurora and sendai are more or less staple for twinfox comps
yukikaze is one of them too
ye ykkz appears to be a lil more staple these days
probably due to taihou, amagi, nagato, hiryuu kai memes
i imagine for offense Sirius/Sendai/Aurora will be more consistent. but nothing beats RNG torp squad for defense
i think yukikze is not strict to ijn tbh her buff and heal are strong
yeah i think nanoda is universal
idk i discussed with this guy who was so intense about sirius that he started arguing with me lol
he was like
sirius is literally the future
i'm like ite
i don't rly believe u but i guess i'll raise sirius myself and test it
i feel like she could be if pvp becomes cv playground again
the goal is hopefully i'll raise a sirius, slap her into defense
then get zack or someone to test against me

then we'll see how great sirius is
but i mean i discussed this before but if sirius seriously (heh) gives +10% hit rate
at the END of hit % calcs, that's insane
like, if your end of calc hit % is 85%
and sirius bumps that to 95%
that's sugoi
because, conventionally getting from 85% --> 95% requires like
it should basically counteract smoke with sendai flare
i think with sendai aurora and sirius + nagato u can assume enemies to have no evasion stat
you need literally 3 SG radars to get from 85% --> 95% hit %
due to diminishing returns
10/10 no bonuses this round. guess ill just have to pray to jank matchmaking for free +11s now
so if sirius' skill can bump ur hit % like that, she is indeed broken
i feel like whenever we get the beefy research CAs though, it might be a little frail
yeaaa like
like saint louis self buffs evade by what
sirius is just a substitute if you have no aurora/sendai
40%?
thru some other discussions it appears
nagato amagi hiryuu kai
is the new IJN mainfleet
so sirius has no place in that comp
be no hiryuu kai in en
and it's my personal prediction that nagato and hiryuu kai will come within 3-4 more seasons
idk if u can buff nakaga dmg to insane levels might still be a wall
also, it's also observed that in CN/JP
at level 120, offense winrates tend to take a dive
meaning the 20% dmg boost isn't really important anymore at that point
lol
as opposed to it's current 80-90% right now at level 100s
you know real good ships are the ships everyone uses because its effective, not because you market it so much

oh please thats worse
i mean, the more hp/evade ships get for free
the worse torps are
because hp scales 1:1 and multiplies with evade
this totu even bought costume
torp stat doesnt give you 1:1 damage
and tested sirius here
so it's natural that bulk wins out over torps by 120
totu you tested sirius?
at least in en
/running sirius right now kek
@ionic magnet
can i see ur sirius
notably the twin 138mm isn't out yet in EN
so sirius dps might not be as great as it will be
but yea i just need to see if the sirius being tested is maxed skills, +10 gear, 100/200 affection
will 138 even help lol
yea it shoujld
i can only see her as cheap ho for boosting cvs
@split socket save me
how is she in PVP?
shes tanky and thats it tbh
so, let me mention again that i dont have foxes, so she's a superior choice compared to aurora
for boosting my hiryuu
nah, dont help him, he's already too far ahead 
since she doesnt insta die

what about her "insane FP boost" and her "fox steroid buff"
does she usually top DPS charts?
lol no
insane Fp LUL
how much dmg usually does she end up with
she makes hiryuu mvp all the time though
she has shit base stats
xD

you'll never see DD gun dps shine
except hp
unless ships have like 10k hp minimum
cus for jintsuu, she can get anywhere from 14k-19k end dmg
i hope sirius can be somewhere around that
Her fp with 3 cvs goes to like 200 with a dd gun, which is really good for pve I guess
Still shit gun eff
https://puu.sh/D1aSg/01b68d431d.png lemme show off my sirius too 
https://puu.sh/D1aTc/cf8c256548.png also fuuuuuuuuuuck
im pretty sure she was lower than running port kai
well i only tested if she can replace aurora actually (jintsuu+juneau+aurora/sirius)
the problem is trying anything right now is useless because levels are all over the place. i'll give sirius a try when everyone is lvl 110
how much dmg can she end up with 
my winrate is like 80% with sirius and 90-95% with aurora
owo
i should burn my player rerolls to get a good fleet to test
its not close with how the matches ended
u should see my dmg chart where jintsuu is like 8-9k at best and foxes are at 20k+
xd
lvl 110 difference
lol
you can test yourself cos i really want to use sirius
but rn aurora is way better imo
yeah
are you using amakaga?
yep
sirius will not get foxes any kills that aurora doesnt already confirm
u need to drop jintsuu for sendai and use sirius
xd well i mean to repeat myself sirius is supposed to replace jintsuu
hmm so sirius sendai aurora 
100% vg wipe
first of all i need to farm sendai first lol
with amagi barrage on sendai flare too
im pretty sure i could tank that if i ran like juneau and port kai at 110
just cause hit points
and no torp pressure
since without jintsuu you dont have to worry about them xD
course im not awakening port kai yet so w/e
well lvl 110 will reduce all dmg in comparation to hp
so torp might not be that great
now to maintain my +0 lead over kamita
gratz
@modern tree damn, how many +9's did you have to take? Last time i checked you were like, 3 points ahead of me.
and now furashu is 3 points ahead 
I took two this reset, lmao
oof
You'd think that with people having like 5 extra charges this shit wouldn't happen
But hey, I wasn't planning on using my rolls today, but now I have an extra incentive to sit on them
i suppose this was a cautionary tale in using too many refresh.
xD
inb4 we all get beat by someone holding onto charges from DST anyways
I mostly roll out of frustration that I can't even get one 11 per reset
Then this happens

ok ill slap around some guy with 13.5k wasd/a and tell you the sirius damage xD
gotta say, sirius is quite a nice sub in for belfast against wasd.

13.5k wasda
nope, he was just angry and talking a lot

and kept telling me how i didn't know anything about pvp meta
waifu bias

๐ฎ
i think i dodged a focused assault with eldridge
normally i dont use eldridge against triple bb
but i was on auto pilot
people in my list are moving but can't break 35+ ahead of me 
Also, got a lil spooked that Tobi's fleet is gonna wall me, but then Kaga died to Hood+Dork barrage, so I think HMS is okay
oh i didnt notice lol
sendai flare is so forgiving
bel being there means
lol
your planes will be less effective
especially with sirius
here is me for context though:
https://gyazo.com/3df31914de09497f743fd6e1d845b9de
nanii
i dont have jintsuu and akagi, what do you want from me
oh xD
105 hiryuu 
if i use aurora
i still don't have hiryuu 
she dies to first strike
i had to reset against an Enty/Hiryuu/Hood fleet today, they weren't even leveled....
she usually hits 24k
monkaS
level difference?

final counter gets her 3 air strikes
actually i had to reset against a hiryuu today
Srs damage probably depends a lot on hitting her barrage
daily reminder she is invulnerable for FIFTEEN SECONDS
so far this season
here is next person
probably still bad at defense
hiryuu wont do much on defense without kai probably
i am actually quite looking forward to hiryuu kai
sorry
i know she will end all metas and make PVP annoyingly stale and frustrating

i told you 3 air strikes
boosted by 10% lol
3.3 air strikes in the time of 2 air strikes
it's funny that even with her supposed 40% FP boost and DD gun she still is similar DPS with minneapolis
which is not bad, it just means she has CA DPS
but maybe she's not god-tier like the guy was say ing
id normally use port kai
who does less dps btw
but i didnt awaken her
cause minne works better in pve anyways
so i just tossed her back in to pvp to be a bruiser
oh crap
i shouldnt use any resets now until i use all charges
season end reset is here

are you good or you want my last 2 charges xD
Minnie doesn't work better in pve and awakening Port is 80 chips 
minne works better than port what
she has higher in all offensive stats
plus a zombie skill for cheese
port survives more actually
saw a 110 port earlier and got spooked. but nothing came of it.
yeah port is literally a giant pool of hp
plus 75 or so evade with beaver xD
(at 100)
Minnie does more damage, but if you are bringing a healer anyway, she's straight worse than Port
move eva by 1
wait, why would she be worse with a healer
minne has better dps stats
lol
both the efficiency and firepower
on all weapons
Oil man
and she has a snowballing dps skill
oh
see, i have had oil cap for a while
xD
i understand now
(soft cap from comm level not hard cap)

just use both 
80 chips for 89 eva CA with md armour and over 5k hp that matters for healy boats
yeah, budget wise portkai is definitely superior
i understand
still need to +10 my 127, i spent all my gun plates on the core data ca gun
X-x
I swear this game doesn't want me to keep my rerolls or score, at least I get to sit and watch those guys never play for 11 hours now
aww =(
rank is too high 
?
lol
FOR AS LONG AS IT TAKES
DO IT 
even if it's 3 days

the lower maps like that are great for affinity farm.
seems dumb to me but enjoy
did you not lock one?
my hiryuu is lvl 100 with maxed skills and 90 affection
i did but i was living that 150 dock space life so i just retired everyone i thought was useless
oh ok
"thought"
lol
because i liked tsunderes
oh no
have u seen the new ui?
https://www.bilibili.com/video/av46420044/
and now i have to go thru this pain to get hiryuu back
the hands change yay
i like hammann but she just a tad bit too tsundere for me
who's hand is that now 
aya
at least it isnt recycled now
the weird hands
they should just remove the oath animation
its too cringe
that one is yat sen
!!
i checked the vid
btw it uses oath skin for hands if they have one
nah eff you. oath scenes are what I live for m8
the dock is quite nice
it just the same more sparkly and worse arranged
i wonder if you marry south dakota now it'll finally have the right colored hand
yeah
or would it still be white

KEK

is the prototype 203mm really good
that aya hand 
isnt it just
i mean, it's a strict upgrade over the mounted
yeah the sleeves match the skin though
wait what's the aya hand
like the dress
aya hand is so small lol
yea cus she's a loli
it's next in the video after yat sen (aya)
im pretty sure it matches only some
mostly if they're suited for the scene im guessing
otherwise it uses generic wedding sleeve
that would be my guess
guess its just the faction
diff sleeves per faction
at least its skin toned now
when u oath minne and get a white hand

french botes
wasn't 70 gap points supposed to be +2? But I got +1 instead.. I don't get it anymore

oof
nope
it's not linear 
it's something to do with amount of players in your average score range
and ur score
wew


or depends or rank position/rank title
so far until now
70 points gap +2 has been correct though
for like 3 seasons at least in my observation
i thought its 60 pts for +2? ๐
i think it was phoenix or someone
W11
when AI is more competitive than players
no I got 69 and it was +11
what a troll
ya there u go
lol
69
noo i mean its linear to ranks
at lower ranks u dont need +35 to get +1
its lower
but at season end so far
yea
35 and 70 has been accurate
i think the variable is
at least should be
the amount of players in your point range
either theres too less people or too many rn
because i was AFK for mainly the whole season, i was able to get +17
cos of dst blahblah
because there were not many players in my range
but switch is highly competitive and always sandbags so
well, once new season starts should be fine xD
he gets lined up with a lot of players in his general point range
more dst stuff
(that's my theory at least)
we'll need to test it out again next season
https://puu.sh/D1bQT/30ff32d19e.png sandy players evolving
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
Pvp advice from global chat
Never failed
Still seeing hood illu e backlines to this day
wait was phoenix pointing out the jojo references or the pvp questions
but yeah, people were memeing jojo above
lmao
its probably an edit
the ring goes back to the shop
something to look forward to
so she can resell it
bluerendar is done with his attempts right?
well, they farmed points off of dst people so they're pretty high up
stop forgetting to do your pvps and you'll see them more often 
i need to farm exp on my jintsuu/aurora/jesus in 4 days...
mine still hasnt dropped, feelsbadman
i havent even run 11-3 yet xD
anyone got cheap auto fleet for sendai farm?
Farm, yea, boss na
when i got to low level she dropped so i kept running amagi scamcat shouhou phoenix cassin downes
@modern tree sure ill take that
Just manual the boss until low danger or run chinaball up front
i got sendai in 12 runs
all my AR is just a 0LB Vestal that i use for VG affinity leveling lol
havent even bothered unlocking akashi
Extinguisher on Amagi, don't tank too many triforce mains and u good
Can probably cut Enterprise if manual, tbh
But eh, lazy
not worth imo
Don't, boss has guaranteed ship drop, mobs can drop 17 coins and that's it
but I have to manual 
Oh no
and sometimes i get A rank 
granted, im not using the most optimal ships for boss but yeah
i actually reset for s rank the boss fight when i got sendai
was using this for boss lul https://puu.sh/D1cbf/ecff7975dc.png
sometimes get careless and sink a ship though
but they can kill boss in time
why vg power so low? ๐ค
no equips on them atm.
doy would outdamage everyone there
ah, atm
just go full hms with qe doy hood
or what i used doy qe unicorn
it should be safe enough and good damage
if doy barrage hits u can easily land bb shoots on bosses
yeah ill go with that. I should be training my HMS anyways.
ehh nani??? what did I do to deserve the "sasuga Ainz-Sama line"
o.o
lel~ ๐
i'm 27 ahead but don't feel confident at all
also gonna end up season without aotn

We got paid in merits anyway
Unless you collect aotn mails
Wonder who's the nerd that has been doing it since September

lol
having to manually delete the ones u opened or never opened the aotn ones... which one is worse?
What are the best frontline ijn units?
jintsuu aya sendai
aurora 
ijn? 
well aurora pretty much plays for sakura empire. i think they should adopt her
maybe aurora will be useful to HMS one day. when ark and vicky get retrofit.
Vicky is a fine boat, there is no need to bully
https://puu.sh/D1e8E/64d805538e.png when they say wasd counters foxes 
wouldnt enty be better? or vicky can actually tank?
just kidding. I haven't even bother leveling her skill
https://puu.sh/D1e9t/a7aaf7b73c.png
lol
offense books are a scarce resource.
i think i have less then 10 offensive t3
also using a lot of yellow ones too but at least of those i have 140 t2s
@zenith tundra claim reward and then slap in important tag 
is there such a thing? didn't know
Important tags work for every message, yeah
i didn't even notice the important tag or the important toggle in the upper area till now
Hi, which torpedo do you use in pvp?
any mag torps are good
quint or quad magtorps
Ok thanks!


oh no
It is time
OH NO
NANODA!!!!!
oh yes 
Cant LB if you dont have them
What comps does ykk work with?
any, shes a stall torp boat with backline heal, shes dumb

she's a more durable fortune because of that lucky ship skill
but only sometimes
xD
less cv there will be better she'll be
eh wtf???
?
YKK is incoming?
rerun
vdir rerun ofc
kindda soonish aint it?
cranes was like september right?
it was the same for jp and cn and it is soon
i can finally save another hyuuga
Holy shit dudes I thought I was a gonner... I was five star admiral, no refreshes left whit one more fight I got an rank 73 admiral while I was rank 16... I got fleet admiral thankfully
+9 points instead of 10
But got the rank
Let's gooo
well my list is dead already i can't even get a normal +10 let alone bonuses
so what planes are you guys going to farm?
going to farm 2 more reppu
since i already farmed 2 ryuusei from last event
idk i feel like 2 ryuusei are enough and reppu is not good outside of pvp
take a glance at what channel you are in
yep lel
The reruns are coming? 
see #game-news
@outer stump https://twitter.com/AzurLane_EN/status/1107340830291877890
what ya think?
nanoda incoming
no rerun didn't mean no reruns... it only meant no rerun for new events
Wait
either we truly have rerun or they going to just add her into light build
Didn't noticed that
it's visitors dyed in red rerun event
But I'm curious what does rerun give? Only the map? Or the exchange too
it's same event with more stuff
@outer stump 3 more news ship i think?

mogami YKK and mikuma
I mean... How they do reruns when they didn't released Jean Bart yet 

because it was like this for jp and cn servers too
YKK is more OP then jb in both pvp and pve lel
it's not something only for en.... we are following jp calendar rn

So now they are trying to put the events all in order for every server?
also news meta VG are YKK sendai and aurora
So I'm pretty dumb 
think iam going to move to wasd
since with YKK it is pretty much useless in trying to nuke VG lel
idk it might work or it might not. i don't think nanoda is a boost to foxes rn
my point exactly lel
Get more rings ez
YKK going to boost BB comp
more like a boost to bb comps
foxes ain't going to nuke VG any time now
The Unsunk Lucky Ship5% (25%) chance to activate when taking damage: decreases said damage to 1
Defuq is this shit
well gotta wait for namagi to use her but don't mind
i think sendai aurora YKK is better
you can just use mogami
since she is also god tier
she's kind of squishy for pvp
I am not even done lvlint sendai and they come with all these new ships. Godsaamn
tbh atm sendai seem kindda weak with YKK
I didn't even touched W11 and everybody got Sendai already 
vdir won't be implemented till end of the month like 11 days from now or something like that
since foxes ain't going to nuke VG with YKK around
so sendai usage just going to hit rock bottom
nice
i don't think yukikaze is that tanky to survive foxes
she takes 75% damage but her hp is 1855 at lvl 100
You mean she takes 1 damage
Same shit
But if she gets released.... Idk what to get rid off
Belfast is pretty nice when it comes for tanking
she's just as tanky as a bad cl like sendai
In my comp
but with dd stats and an amazing main fleet buff and heal
I don't want my heal to get proc'ed when my backline is 100% hp
But well I will see what I would do
While alive in fleet, reduce damage received by the backline by 3.5% (8%). Once per battle, when any ship in the backline drops below 20% health, heals said ship for 4% (10%) of their max HP.
The ship seems pretty broken for wasd tbh
with YKK around your jesus can survive first strike if you are lucky
which in most case she can
If the enemy YKK will negate my enty lucky e I will get sad
even without the heal proc it's still 8% less damage
(ofc it will happend for how unlucky I am)
which is why it is better to use full BB line up with YKK
since foxes work on the sam principle
I still like enterprise
well you can use enty wasd
I tried full BB team even whit Juneau 40% wr
Sometimes they get outscale
but enty also work in wasd
Well that's what I'm using atm
u can try some def fox comp with amagi but not sure how good it'll be. with jesus yukikaze and aurora
But doesn't amagi need 3 IJN ships to accompany her?
nanoda is ijn
aurora is -25 right or 20?
And I don't understand why tf when I play exercises I get the vanguard's fights much closer to my backline
u still want to kill vg and belfast only works for cv not bbs
Also hi, soul collector
well i was riding on your comment about foxes def
I mean it hurts to get ayaya top in your face while you have heavy armour
but the problem is how will you know which comp you will fight in def?
i don't care if i lose to foxes but want to wall off bbs as much as i can
then don't you need to use BB on def to work?
since if you use foxes they just going to use BB vs you
at least BB fight you can still win sometimes
u can never really have a def for everything tbh. u just use want u want to block as much as possible
a wasd reset is worse then a akaga reset
yep since it took longer
anyway i am going to move to wasd
if anything i can just use NC to tea bag foxes even more
LMFAO
Idk what to pick anymore... I've got sg radars too and idk if I want shellings anymore
with YKK coming full BB just becoming more and more a viable comp
now that i think about it what do you guys think about NC amagi and hood?
too many new comp to try out lel
ykkz and 110 means my Hiryuu fleet might finally be viable on def too 
NC Amagi Hood feels like it loses to all non-CV focus comps
Yeah, I feel like it loses to BB fleets, and probs isn't actually any better vs CV teams than just WASDA
Will have to test to see that though
problem is wasd is not really that good compare to NC anyway
you just banking on the fact that SD can just survive for 5s more
Foxes leave the vanguard vulnerable, safe from many skills there, and chip off the backline nowadays
and not like the +30% really matter when by the time SD dies their CV going to almost die anyway
with Yukikaze dancing around, one of the foxes' aspects are severely weakened
Sodak 5 s procs on 2nd Fox strike with Aegis up, so it significantly reduces 2nd strike dmg on backline
Sodak is -50%, for 2nd strike only, but 2nd strike hits backline harder anyways
With 110 NC along might be enough though
You can't nuke the backline with NC on board, but the backline can and may take lethal damage from the remaining 85%
at least until Nagato
Originally the comp for NC was WASDNC, but I feel amagi in that slot just does more
amagi is so much better then nc
Same if not better dred, and a barrage to boot
Hmm, so I guess the argument goes, if you want NC, you have to ask yourself, "is Amagi better here?"
And running both Amagi and NC locks out any powerful combos
if i use wasd ofc i am going to use amagi
sorry
they are 2 diff comp
like i said if i was using wasd ofc i am going to use amagi
was talking about hood amagi and NC
since NC can just act as a worse SD
it could work if hood and amagi can snipe foxes
I'd argue for Hiryuu in that slot then, since she also does that with her immunity and does more dmg
Hood/Amagi solo 2-volleys Foxes, but only if barrage procs twice
It might be fine, I find Hood/Amagi already almost lives through 2 strikes, so Nocal should make that difference





will just have a sleeve







