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real notch
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for the most part in this server

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but widely known in other smaller servers

vague token
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basically, you always get at least 30% of the plane damage

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but you can get a variable 1-70%

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based on current hp

delicate shore
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how come this server is so lacking

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in this knowledge

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lol

real notch
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yea it's split on 70% / 30%

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based on plane HP

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i remember that part of the formula

vague token
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so 30 MAX hp doesnt do anything initially

real notch
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not sure

lime rivet
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EN players are still new. A lot of the guides from CN and JP aren't fully translated

real notch
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i guess the really smart guys avoid the "mainstream" servers

lime rivet
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Also, EN isn't as big as JP or CN, obviously

real notch
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but yea

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really good blog

vague token
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oh god nagato is actually a damage buff

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not an aviation buff

real notch
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you should give the whole thing a thorough read

vague token
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that's waaaay stronker than i thought

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Additionally, increases Sakura Empire aircraft carrier damage (does not affect Aviation Battleships) toward enemy by 5% (20%).

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since akaga already boosts aviation, it's better to get a direct damage boost than more aviation

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i thought she boosted their aviation

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xD

stable panther
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who is nagato again tho :V

real notch
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gasp

vague token
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oh

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she's the BIG SEVEN for sakura

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with a QE buff for them

real notch
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quick someone link the loli goddess

vague token
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gotcha covered

real notch
stable panther
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ohhh, that one

real notch
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i love that face

vague token
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When sortied as the flagship: increases allied Sakura Empire ships' firepower by 4% (10%) and their reload and accuracy by 5% (20%). Additionally, increases Sakura Empire aircraft carrier damage (does not affect Aviation Battleships) toward enemy by 5% (20%).

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yikes

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xD

lime rivet
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Historical reason - Nagato was the flagship for the pearl harbor strike force.

vague token
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rip aviation battleships though gameplay wise

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xD

delicate shore
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the loli queen

stable panther
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BBV are those weirdos anyway

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like that summersible carrier boats

real notch
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her marriage skin

vague token
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hey now, hyuuga isnt a weirdo

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she works hard

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although i know why it doesnt work from technical standpoint

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i think

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it's because it's a ship damage buff

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so they cant separate the BBV aviation damage boost

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from the gun boost

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so if nagato buffed BBV

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it would buff ALL of their damage

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by 20%

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which would be pretty awesome

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xD

real notch
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very pattable doggo head

delicate shore
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someone find me and fight my HMS fleet

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ive never even seen anyone with a 13k HMS fleet before

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lol

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curious as to how well theyll perform

real notch
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plz come to rank 2500

delicate shore
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im sitting at rank 2

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lol

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rn

lime rivet
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I'm too lazy to level my shit up to +10

real notch
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man

delicate shore
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isnt that ur main pvp fleet tho?

lime rivet
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I'm honestly surprised at how few HMS fleets I see in avrora

real notch
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i do rly wanna test against an hms tho

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yea

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me2 actually

delicate shore
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lul

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i've joined the HMS club

lime rivet
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@delicate shore yeah, but they're mostly all +6-7 gear

delicate shore
lime rivet
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So i'm only at 11k/11k

slow totem
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HMS is meh on defense

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WASDEnty/Hood is better

delicate shore
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ive seen your fleet syanda

slow totem
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That’s why

vague token
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i killed your fleet a bit ago, xD

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warspite eating a 2k demon dance crit

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rip

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o7

delicate shore
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who mine?

lime rivet
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Ouch. She probably deserved it

vague token
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na, warspite is a good ship

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works hard

slow totem
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Someone has to cover for QE’s laziness

delicate shore
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hmmm

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should i use 410s

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on HMS

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everyone

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to cuck enty

lime rivet
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Naaah

delicate shore
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lol

vague token
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sounds overkill?

lime rivet
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You run into weird cycle times

delicate shore
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ill use 410 on hood and someone else then

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and one 406

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since hood has the gold fcr

slow totem
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410 Hood Gold FCR + Autoloader syncs with WS

lime rivet
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410 on hood and 406mk6 on warspite means they get to fire in sequence without downtime

slow totem
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To cuck Enty or one half of foxes

delicate shore
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then ill give QE a 410

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lol

slow totem
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QE works best with 406

lime rivet
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No, then she'll interfere with WS

slow totem
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Since she has no barrage to speak of

delicate shore
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im not using 410s for barrage tho

slow totem
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Nah, WS’s auto shot doesn’t get interrupted

delicate shore
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im using 410s to hit ent before she procs

lime rivet
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You want the sequence to be WS Skill > Hood Barrage > Hood Shell > WS Shell

slow totem
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WS Skill = Hood Barrage, synced for maximum cucking for me

lime rivet
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That baleets Ent on a good day if your backline shells land right

delicate shore
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is WS skill and hood barrage enough to kill ent?

slow totem
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Yes

lime rivet
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No.

slow totem
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Lemme gib screenshot

vague token
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well, no, but gun follow up

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usually does it

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unless all your MGM+2 aims for vanguard

lime rivet
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WS skill and hood barrage either hits for a minimum of half health (assuming Ent doesn't evade)

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Follow up shells will kill

delicate shore
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but doesnt she proc lucky E right after?

vague token
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lucky e should be around 22-23

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so i think you can shoot fast enough

abstract cypress
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lucky e aint 200% GWczoSayoriDed

vague token
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if hood gets all MGM shots

lime rivet
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She only procs after the shells have landed

delicate shore
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u dont account for the possibility of it not proccing

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since its a 70% proc

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u assume it procs 100% everytime

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lol

vague token
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i assume most 70% as 100

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safer

lime rivet
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Same

vague token
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it's like a 30% chance of failure

slow totem
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Syanda, I disagree. Look, no Enty. No problem.

vague token
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what else has 30% chance of activating?

lime rivet
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But in any case, Ent cannot dodge the first salvo of MGM shells

slow totem
delicate shore
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what was his fleet power tho

slow totem
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13k

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Something

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Fully oathed

real notch
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how common is that to happen

delicate shore
lime rivet
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Like I said, minimum of half health on average

slow totem
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I have another one of these screenshots

lime rivet
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Keyword minimum

delicate shore
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i see

slow totem
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Fair enough

vague token
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aya defense oh boi

slow totem
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👍

lime rivet
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You generally need the MGM shots to land kn Ent to outright kill her

slow totem
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Ayaya on Defense for maximum big dicc

vague token
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xD

lime rivet
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It's not impossible, because Ent only launches after all of Warspite's MGM shells land

slow totem
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Yes yes,

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That is true

delicate shore
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so WS is faster than wasd?

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cuz wasd with the 406 never hits ent

lime rivet
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However, if you do not kill Ent in the first salvo, the second launch from ent WILL evade the next round of MGM shots

delicate shore
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if she procs

vague token
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well, hood is the one shooting E

real notch
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hmm

vague token
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WS just shoots her skill at 15

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right?

real notch
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ws has same reload as USS BB so her salvos should be landing at same time

lime rivet
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You have to hope WS or QE shoots and kills ent after a second launch

real notch
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but yea

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her skill procs at 15

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so it guarantee hits before ent cloak

vague token
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yeah, so you'd just have hood with FCR to shoot super early

lime rivet
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Hood cannot kill Ent if ent survives after her second launch

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And by that time your vanguard is likely already dead

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Unless eldridge is doing her spooky shit

delicate shore
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hmmm

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ill try out the 410s when i get more matches

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lol

real notch
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hmm

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i feel the meta will inevitably shift to 410s at this rate

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either 410s or foxes

delicate shore
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if ent continues to be meta

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probably

real notch
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it's a fork in the road

vague token
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i mean, you could just do 1 406 and 1 410?

real notch
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at some point eld will lose viability

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and that's when u slap back in fortune

slow totem
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If Ent doesn’t die from first salvo

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My WS crits snipes her the 2nd time usually and she dies

lime rivet
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Yeah, that's the ideal situation

slow totem
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2nd crit snipe hits just after 1st lucky E ends

real notch
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@vague token you can, but if you do, try not putting the HFCR on the BB with the 406mm

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because if you do it'll cause their timings to overlap

vague token
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yeah

slow totem
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Ideally yes hahahaha, most ideal would be instagibbing her the 1st time

lime rivet
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Ent must die after her first launch if you somehow fail to kill her before she launches

slow totem
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Unless someone put double SG Radar on Enty

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For big dicc

lime rivet
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That would be GalaxyBrain levels of metagaming

slow totem
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Nah, I have Eldridge for cucky E

real notch
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that would be

stable panther
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the heck is that suppose to do?

real notch
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200 IQ play

vague token
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dodge bullets

slow totem
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OP Rainbow cuck. Ez

vague token
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carriers usually have base 50 evade

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so

real notch
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because she already has 49 EVA

vague token
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if you're lucky

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xD

slow totem
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Double SG Radar on Enty for memes

real notch
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WS will end up landing like only 60-70% of hits

delicate shore
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can ent make use of the hit tho?

real notch
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even with 2x SG

slow totem
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Can’t touch dis

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But can’t do damage either

real notch
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recluse about to actually do it

delicate shore
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nah lol

slow totem
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Oh shit

real notch
slow totem
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Dew it

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For the memez

real notch
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do it for science

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so we know how good it actually is

delicate shore
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i mean

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how important is hit for CVs

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tho

real notch
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probably not that important

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xd

delicate shore
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just give ent the beaver badge then

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lmao

vague token
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i dont think hit is the same for carrier bombs?

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it does weird things

slow totem
vague token
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sometimes

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or maybe just very volatile hit rates

delicate shore
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so far

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i havent seen any HMS fleet with higher power than mine

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lul

real notch
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bruh

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i haven't seen any HMS fleets at all

slow totem
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Oath Numbers are just for flexing. uniflex

delicate shore
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i mean i see them

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but

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they're like 11k-12k at the most

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not even 12.7k

vague token
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yeah

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to be fair hms is a bit less expensive to train up

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so they might be higher up

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while people who dive the ranks

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probably are invested on other stuff

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at this point

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so it could be that

delicate shore
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i already have every other comp at 200 affection

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nothing else to work on

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lol

vague token
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o.O

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wow, i dont think i have any at 200 affinity lol

slow totem
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Pls don’t tell me you marry for stats and not love.

vague token
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mostly because i stopped using pvp ships in pve xD

delicate shore
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i have 17 oathed ships

slow totem
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🙏

delicate shore
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u tell me

vague token
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🐳

slow totem
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That means you married non-metaslave ships

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Good man

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Marry for stats?

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Point and laugh

hidden wyvernBOT
delicate shore
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i do marry for stats tho

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lol

slow totem
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6% OmegaLUL

delicate shore
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otherwise i wouldnt have married ws or qe

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they ugli

vague token
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ooooooof

slow totem
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Actually it’s good

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The less people like your waifu

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The more exclusive she’ll be to you

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QE mine. GWomoDrakeYea shoo

delicate shore
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sure u can have her

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lol

slow totem
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Go hug your potty mouth brat

delicate shore
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who would that be

slow totem
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Your pfp

delicate shore
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oh lol

slow totem
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Imma Oath PoW much later on. Screw stats

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Maybe, we’ll see. Not 100 yet

real notch
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LOLLL

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i just realized izurich has qe

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As pfp

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I think

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Wow

vague token
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lol

real notch
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Someone made her actually look kinda cute

slow totem
real notch
slow totem
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Her Party Skin will boost that up

real notch
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If qe looked like the art in the loading screen

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Id marry that

slow totem
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All part of Akashi’s plan to make you buy her party skin

lime rivet
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I marry for love. I just love good stats.

real notch
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Actually even on loading screen ws is cuter

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Omg

delicate shore
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true

real notch
slow totem
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Syanda is a true gentleman

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WS needs a party skin too

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Yostar pls

idle python
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have you seen nozo's hms on jp fumizukiStare

slow totem
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It’s JP

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We don’t have HE AUX shells yet for example

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And Lvl 120

idle python
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no I just mean his ships

delicate shore
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nop

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what about it

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?

vague token
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oh god the crit damage boost on those shells

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gonna be scary

slow totem
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Blam blam. sandyMeme

idle python
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well I'm not too sure how much shells affect hms since at least in CN people stack evasion

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on backline BBs

vague token
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shells give hit though dont they?

idle python
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though I prefers shells myself

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the white shell does

vague token
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oh just the white

idle python
delicate shore
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i stack evasion on my bb's all dai

slow totem
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EN meme will evolve accordingly

delicate shore
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damn thats a lot of 120s

vague token
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oh, hit rate adds to crit rate

slow totem
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No need to stress out servers we don’t even play in

vague token
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wouldnt shell + radar be pretty oof?

delicate shore
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jav is meta in HMS?

idle python
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no he just likes jav

delicate shore
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o

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i like her too

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she cute

slow totem
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See?

delicate shore
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i dont like her enough to lvl her up tho

slow totem
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In the end, this is a single-player waifu game

vague token
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oathed minn, great waifu, better phoenix

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xD

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plus voice soooooon

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next update

delicate shore
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i never see nozo flexing his ships

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or anything

slow totem
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Better phoenix paid by oil coist

delicate shore
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what a g

slow totem
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So they are both love love

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Ships flexing as a result of gems is meh tbh

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Like ofc duh

delicate shore
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yeah but 120 takes a long ass time

slow totem
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Oh true

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I was talking about the Oaths

real notch
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Wow

slow totem
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Lvl 120 yes, hard work

real notch
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Is that how nozo got mod

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Shows his hms collection

slow totem
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OmegaLUL

delicate shore
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lol

real notch
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Canuck: alright ur in

slow totem
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Makes sense

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All those Oaths mean he has given Yostar money

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And some of those money surely goes to Canuck-kun’s salary

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So...

real notch
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He didnt even name duke dork

idle python
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well I only really mentioned this as part of the marrying for love thing

real notch
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What a gentleman

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I would name her dork

slow totem
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That’s why he mod

idle python
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it's ok we also don't have wis here to hate on hms

real notch
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Id also name javelin worst starter

delicate shore
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fuck u

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dont bully jav

real notch
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LOL

slow totem
real notch
livid fractal
slow totem
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Yes, Recluse gets it

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Non-Meta -> Who cares?

idle python
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it's ok I bully aya instead smugBucky

real notch
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Wait is that the party QE art

delicate shore
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fuck u too

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aya is a good girl

real notch
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Yo fuk u

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Aya is great

slow totem
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Party QE art? I have a few

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At phone atm tho

real notch
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Id rather bully aya than laffey tho

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Sleepy lolis MeguAhn

slow totem
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Booli Laffey just to bait sirreq

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Like Ykkz with itsfyh

real notch
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Also newcastle is so cute

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Wtf

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I love that guys art

delicate shore
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noire cuter

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and blanc

slow totem
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I love everything about Newcastle

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Except

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The fact how lazy they made her Kai art to be

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Like yo

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Seriously

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Such wasted potential

real notch
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O ya

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Ur right

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Its literally just another pose

slow totem
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And a single more cannon if you wanna be pedantic

real notch
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O

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And her arm sleeves are gone

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If u have arm fetish

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That works

slow totem
abstract cypress
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QE also wasted tbh

slow totem
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QE doesn’t have Kai

abstract cypress
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the front loading screen looks cute af

real notch
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Ike

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Ikr

slow totem
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Oh, just buy her party skin

abstract cypress
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but the real ship angryQueen

real notch
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Especially ws

slow totem
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Yooooo

abstract cypress
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black panties sandyMeme

slow totem
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#pvp going beyond-help

abstract cypress
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how to +10 dildo GWczoSayoriDed

lime rivet
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Keep this channel for pvp discussion only, folks

real notch
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Shit ur right

slow totem
real notch
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Must be wholesome

slow totem
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Keep help’s degeneracy in help

real notch
abstract cypress
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my real nick name tells everything emilesip

real notch
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Oi

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Protect the lolis

delicate shore
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#help isnt as degenerate without me there

abstract cypress
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nope

mod pongers GWcorbinTopKek

real notch
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I just realized zooming in ur profile is mikan

delicate shore
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bruh

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lol

vague token
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im out for the night, good luck with exercises all

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o7

real notch
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siscon too eh

delicate shore
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cya

real notch
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Seeyaaaa kiroshimaaa Zwave

idle python
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speaking of exercises cn just gottheir new batch of 5, let's see if I can get non meme/non outdated teams

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(then again I guess i'm not helping that cause either because my defense is also meme)

delicate shore
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i wanna get reset

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so i can use my HMS

abstract cypress
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mikan best loli emilesip

delicate shore
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nobody's using their matches

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im still rank 2

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lol

abstract cypress
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i always lose 20-30 matches welp warShrug

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gensui just a dream

delicate shore
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ive been missing a lot lately too

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sandbagging helps tho

abstract cypress
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cant do that too

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hows +6-+10 gib to fleet power btw

delicate shore
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wat

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oh

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depends how many equips u have at 6

abstract cypress
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almost all +10

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altough i nvr notice how much is it

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now i run out of plates

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i mean the rainbow dildo one

delicate shore
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the dildo gives a lot

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idk how much tho

vestal crypt
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Must be nice having and using dildos

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That sounds wrong

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But u get the idea

slow totem
molten perch
odd schooner
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Individual Ship Points are added when shooting down planes ya?

grand sluice
alpine finch
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Wichita vs Suffolk front line?

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Kinda want a hard hitter

stable panther
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neither TBH. for PVP you would want a very durable vanguard with the most killy backline

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wichita and suffolk isn't durable enough

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... suffolk kai is a solid solo damage dealer tho, while wichita is more of a buffer

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a glass cannon that provide buff

slow totem
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Right now, CAs just don’t work well in PvP. They eat up too many stuff to be useful.

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A fact I cry about everyday.

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And likely not going to be fixed any time soon

alpine finch
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pepelel fair enough

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just expanding options since i run Aya/javelin + juneau/Helena/eldridge

stable panther
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you are better off using a DD vanguard for PVP. dodge tank is a thing afterall

odd schooner
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@grand sluice shouldn't it be E Essex Centaur for triple CV

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@slow totem w11 is just around the corner GWaobloChildPepeHug

slow totem
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And what’s in W11? GWfroggyFeelsHugMan

alpine finch
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sorrow

wise summit
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CAs will be fixed when they increase our cap to 120 Harcourt no sad

modern tree
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You can probably get away with a CA if you run Eldridge

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I will be testing that today

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Not against akaga, but uss and most other... Unusual comps should be fine

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Only problem I see is that Eldridge with CA will barely move

odd schooner
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They're going to be sitting duck against 410s

grand sluice
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@odd schooner Essex works well with USS carriers.

modern tree
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only this chat is enlightened about 410s

grand sluice
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And the only pretty decent USS carrier out of the main 2 is Saratoga Kai

slow totem
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@wise summit gasp...?! Really...? Thank you!

odd schooner
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@modern tree everywhere i go it's always 406mk6

slow totem
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@modern tree Yea... it doesn’t work... well, sometimes it works, but not consistent enough. But there’s that 120 level cap so I’m okay now.

modern tree
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I will check for myself, just like I did with everything else

odd schooner
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It's like they want bicc numbers but can't shoot down targets because it's within the invincible status as to why E vs E became a thing again

modern tree
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its like they are reading internet guides to pvp that are all written for chinese or translated from it

delicate shore
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It's because the ppl here worship the game gurus

modern tree
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Which is basically why I verify everything myself, or as much as my limited time allows me

delicate shore
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And treat their word like its the law

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And game gurus telling everyone to only use 410s for barrage

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And that's its only purpose

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Lol

modern tree
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I am pretty sure general advice should be 410 for barrage/burn damage, 406 for burst and aoe

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but pvp is just different

delicate shore
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That's true but there's another purpose for it now

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But people can't think for themselves

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Lol

modern tree
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I dont like badmouthing people in general but the trend I see is people join this discord in hopes of saving themselves time by not doing any experimenting and just being told everything. It's probably not a horrible thing to do. You can imagine how much time I dumped to rise 3 sets of pvp ships just to have informed opinions. Doing things that do not follow "established" conventions like cutting Juneau from HMS is scary and time consuming, but hey, someone did it. It was me. Now I can tell all of you about how it's not as crazy as it sounds.

odd schooner
modern tree
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time to put my Suffolk to work and see if she holds up

delicate shore
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There's one guy that eats up everything that wis says

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And vomits it back out like it's absolute truth

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And that guy is ender

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Lol

slow totem
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What Daxam says

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And nah, letting other people dictate you how to play your single-player waifu game is a frankly idiotic idea.

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They can advice, but should be your conscious decision to follow that advice or not.

delicate shore
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That's what I'm saying lol

slow totem
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angryQueen 👍

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You too, brudder

grave gale
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You're better off following aripanda's pvp guide than what #gameplay-help says.

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But you should never go 100% by a guide. The meta is really about countering what's popular.

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And the meta for each server may differ. Hence different counters

slow totem
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Yea, like we don’t have NaKaGa here yet

alpine finch
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ye with eldridge @modern tree

steep falcon
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@delicate shore Let's refrain from insulting other server members please

alpine finch
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ill prob level them anyway cause gotta 3-4 spam

delicate shore
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That's not an insult

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Merely an observation I've made about him

steep falcon
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Alright, let's refrain from shit talking other server members please

delicate shore
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I'm not insulting his person in any way

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Lol

steep falcon
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I've gotten complaints about people using this channel as a place to badmouth others. PvP discussion is about two fleets fighting each other, not individual people :-)

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It's funny how that works

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At any rate, please keep your animosity towards others to yourself or at least outside of this server.

delicate shore
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There's no animosity tho

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I quite like the guy tbh

steep falcon
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The way you talk about those people says otherwise

delicate shore
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I'm just saying he's a straight arrow

steep falcon
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Regardless, this is a channel for discussion of the PVP meta

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not commentary on other server members

delicate shore
grave gale
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I did a bunch of tests yesterday with recorded footage and discovered I do not like the Juneau + Eldridge combination. Most runs Juneau died at inopportune times and was a waste. I think Helena works better with wasd + Eldridge feets.

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I recall reading a while back that radar only hits the vanguard. Which is bs. I checked. It always hit the back.

odd schooner
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Radar hits all enemies present

slow totem
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Same as Ark Royal

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Same as any fleet-wide debuff actually

grave gale
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The argument was radar only affects on screen enemies

delicate shore
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Who was it that said radar only affects vanguard

odd schooner
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The juneau Eldridge combo is the longest stall ive encountered so far so maybe in my opinion, works as intended

grave gale
delicate shore
grave gale
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Eldridge can keep Juneau alive too long

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Especially with rainbow lv 10

odd schooner
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You can actually use helena with both of them

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Like keripo's def fleet

grave gale
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Aftrr the first 20 secs, Jun will only take damage 10 secs between each proc

alpine finch
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ive been trying juneau eldridge

odd schooner
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But it only counters wasd fleet

alpine finch
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not a fan

modern tree
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juneau eldridge is just watching your main fleet wither while your front line takes barely any damage and praying for juneau to finally sink to save everyone

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its more stressful than big e duels

slow totem
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Jesusnau

odd schooner
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It's more of a stall imo

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Def fleet wise

grave gale
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I also tested Fortune and noticed no real difference in my HP at 4:00 with and without her throughout many runs.

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The mitigation is negligible

alpine finch
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biased but i find fortune fleets just a pushover

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they just get insta deleted

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washy server is hardly developed so idk whats going on in other servers

modern tree
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main arguments for fortune is that she is hms with pretty high torp stat and really high speed

alpine finch
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i just want to run over any squad

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i havent had a real block yet

modern tree
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ability is good to have but its unlikely to make a real difference if you do not have need for her other things

alpine finch
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the most painful one i ran into was some aya+juneau+helena

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where aya basically 1 shotted my front line on 2nd torp

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lol

odd schooner
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You can notice fortune saving enty from akaga 2nd airstrike on a 200 oath matches manjuNom

slow totem
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Did you use all CL vanguard?

alpine finch
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javelin/belfast/minnea at that time i believe

slow totem
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Fortune is good against CV Backlines, even more with NoCal around

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AkaGa and Lucky E do tickle damage

modern tree
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today I had a game where opening torps have slain both vanguards instantly

elder jungle
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i've been wondering if fortune is worth raising, I was planning a helena/jeanuea and last would either be belfast/eldridge/fortune

modern tree
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I was really confused

slow totem
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But against BB backlines, not so much

alpine finch
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rng torps

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omegalul fun game

modern tree
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they just went inside eachother and both died

slow totem
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Fortune is even more worth raising if you use QE.

alpine finch
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im gonna try a CA fleet with eldridge

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probably hate it

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and regret it

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then self loath until 120 comes out

odd schooner
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I'm still 10 affection away for max affection ayaya but right now she is doing 2.6 on backline

slow totem
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She can actually tank-dodge Lucky E and Akaga on her own with double repair toolboxes

odd schooner
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3.7-3.9k with supernatural

grave gale
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I'm thinking belfast, eldridge/juneau and helena is the best non hms vanguard

alpine finch
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is laffey actually t0 for pvp

slow totem
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Even better with Extreme Evasion activated

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Nah, Hood is

odd schooner
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Demon dance does 1.5k per torp

slow totem
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And Enty and Akaga

alpine finch
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tankyish with lots of reload

slow totem
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Aya and Laffey are good if they hit

alpine finch
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so consistency exist

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thats why im not a huge fan of lots of torp reliant vanguard

odd schooner
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DDs actually pops a lot with max BBs nowadays

alpine finch
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some games u can have ur entire torp miss

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and ur done

odd schooner
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Double sg backliners LeanderXD

alpine finch
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what aux do u run on foxes

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all the foxes on washy are absolute shit lol

odd schooner
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Should be cata tanker

modern tree
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its just tank and catapult

alpine finch
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i feel like theyre all missing pieces of gear or just not gearing correctly

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hood is my only BC/BB

modern tree
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I dont think you can justify any other gear on cvs right now, maybe beaver badge if you are really worried but why

alpine finch
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i just run 2x cata

odd schooner
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You'll have long time experiencing big fights since the main gate on new servers are skills

alpine finch
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yeah i figured it could be that

odd schooner
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Another is fox mining bad runs

alpine finch
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ive been sticking to my backline fleet for at least 2 weeks now

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so all 10s

odd schooner
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There's a person in avrora who took more than 2 months to finish 🦊

alpine finch
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ive still yet to get a fox

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im not too worried since i dont really plan on using them

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just collection purposes

odd schooner
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Usually ppl go lvl 5 on most ships then go back to main ship and max

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At least that's how it happened on first server

slow totem
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Don’t sweat over SR drops, not gonna get them any faster anyway

odd schooner
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Skill lvl

alpine finch
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ah

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i just max right away

modern tree
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I think skill level is fine at 7 if you do not have an explicit purpose for it to be maxed, saves like half of the books this way

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leveling to max is so boring

grave gale
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Unless its damage scales with level. There's not a big difference between 7 and 10 skills

slow totem
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Barrage skills are recommended to be Level 10

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In general

grave gale
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Definitely

alpine finch
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what main gun for suffolk

modern tree
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203 mounted

alpine finch
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purple is max tier right

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or is there a gold

modern tree
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only gold ca atm is 203 skc afaik, but AP is really not gonna cut it

alpine finch
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yea i have that maxed for minnea in pve

modern tree
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in context of this chat, HE will just otperform AP in every way because most of the vanguard ships that you'd want to smash with Suffolk rock light armour that you have 140% damage against with HE

alpine finch
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pretty much

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usually DDs

odd schooner
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There's a huge spike between washi lvl 9 and 10

slow totem
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Hood’s barrage also scales significantly with levels

alpine finch
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washy is good for nuking backline right

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i want a backline to destroy foxes GWsetmyxPeepoEvil

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seemsgood

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so if i run hood/washy/?

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i was thinking warspite for that free skill nuke

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but most of the time i see it as qe/ws/hood

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yea

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i just hate the aesthetic of qe

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just hand out more gold fcr feelsmadman

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i could just wasd/hood

modern tree
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I hate qes default sprite, anniversary skin waiting room

alpine finch
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yea

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maybe when sandy gets retro here

modern tree
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I've seen some people running wash hood enterprise, its probably not bad

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if you just really hate main fleets

alpine finch
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i'd prob do that but i invested into lusty+eldridge

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washy server is still too weak atm

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half of the vanguards die to helena+e proc

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cause theyre still running no retrofit starter, prinz

modern tree
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this never changes tbh, eugen, starter retro and eldridge on lusty is what I see way too often for how effective it seems

slow totem
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As much as I love QE

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I have to say, her default skin is no match to her party skin

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That white dress and higher quality art

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And multiple expressions

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And an actual throne

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angryQueen 10/10

alpine finch
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i think ill drop lusty eventually

slow totem
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?boobtierlist

hidden wyvernBOT
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T0: Illustrious

alpine finch
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i dont have enough bulins

modern tree
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like 9 months left till anniversary or something

slow totem
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No, she’s T0, see?

alpine finch
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just havent been playing long enough

slow totem
modest osprey
slow totem
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Replace Akagi with Hood and you’re done for now.

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Maybe San Diego with Eldridge too

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But one step at a time

modest osprey
slow totem
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Okay... then Akagi with Hood

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I mean Hood

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And you have Eldridge, great! Use her for Sandy’s spot

modest osprey
slow totem
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Yea, that’s all

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Akagi for Hood
Sandy for Eldridge

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Done. GWomoDrakeYea

modest osprey
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Okay, I’ll give that a try. Thank you very much.

slow totem
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Oooor

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Enty for Kaga

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And Lusty for Hood

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Having options are nice

slow totem
modern tree
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so after a bunch of tests on Suffolk

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the gun hits hilariously hard but it seems to only shoot straight forward which is a problem since it feels less reliable than torps

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I didnt expect much from 40 fiering angle to CL's 120 but darn it just never lands

untold folio
#

o

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This exist

slow totem
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Welcome, fam!

untold folio
slow totem
untold folio
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Fix ur flagship pls

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ffs

slow totem
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You can put whatever in defense fleet anyway

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Makes sense actually

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SoDak’s Aegis doesn’t affect herself

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And the flagship takes the most damage, Aegis covers Washy so...

untold folio
#

Night of the iron bottom

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Exist

slow totem
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With Eldridge and Cleveland around, it’s clearly made to counter Foxes and Enterprises.

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5 seconds over making Aegis useless? Naaaah

untold folio
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Eldridge counter foxes

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Good meme

analog hare
slow totem
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Mine survives the first brunt with Belfast. thinkpitz

untold folio
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Yeah

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Just use bel for foxes

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Eld for enty

slow totem
#

I found out that as long as you win consistently

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The waiting for rank up thingy don’t matter much

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You’ll get Gensui

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provided you don’t miss too much rounds but that’s obvious

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I got... 3 or 4 last seasson, end of season, 5 minutes before reset.

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Without tryharding on the rank up wait.

real notch
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i missed around 3 rounds today...

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god have mercy on my soul

slow totem
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Missing rounds is the oof one tho

real notch
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this season literally nobody blows their matches anymore

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so i just end up waiting and waiting and i forget

slow totem
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People are getting smart

real notch
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it's legit tragic Dead

slow totem
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So don’t bother with rank up

real notch
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watever

slow totem
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I got top 5 last season with 1 loss and no rank up wait

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Good enough I say.

real notch
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i think i can still make it if i go twinfox and fight 5 memefleets on reset

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i'll win 5 games in like 3 mins

slow totem
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3 matches... salvageable

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And then you meet full Belfast - Juneau, WASD Enty

real notch
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that's the kms moment

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i'd be like fukkkkkkkkkk

slow totem
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@untold folio Also, just sayin’, chill out on the attitude. “pvp-ers” already have a bad rep for being ‘elitist, snob, tryhards’ around here, don’t need to actually make it true.

untold folio
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Wut

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I’m saying someone did something wrong

slow totem
#

But it isn’t wrong. SoDak as flagship actually has cons (since Aegis doesn’t affect herself). But that’s not my point anyway.

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Hope I’m wrong on my assumption, which would be good.

vague token
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well, the reason i put sodak mid isnt for aegis

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it's to force her to proc wash

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if you're against akaga, you can get her to under 30 with some luck

slow totem
#

There is that point true, but Sodak on the side also has its merits.

With Washy on the side, I usually kill washy first before Iron Bottom procs.

vague token
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and then use the 20% damage boost

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to shoot whoever is across from wash on the 20

slow totem
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Iron Bottom (heh)

vague token
#

xD

slow totem
#

Translation issues?

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The original skill name can’t be this naughty.

vague token
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ill swap sodak out of mid if triple carrier

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and just use e mid to stall

real notch
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sodak is best mid for consistency

vague token
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since akaga E can be memed pretty hard

slow totem
#

Akaga E is pretty memey anyway

vague token
#

true

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but it does force me to restart a lot when helena E triggers

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but if it doesnt it literally crumbles so fast

slow totem
#

3 CV Backline doesn’t work until Essex comes around.

real notch
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also yea izurich is right

slow totem
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But defense fleet, whatever.

vague token
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i mean, you could counter triple CV

real notch
#

we should try to make civil PVP discussion without resorting to roasting each other when someone makes a "wrong" move

vague token
#

with essex/wasd

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so

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who cares xD

real notch
#

or a "bad" play

slow totem
#

What Sirreq said

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NoCal + Fortune makes Akaga E do tickle damage, I confirmed over multiple runs.

vague token
#

honestly ill be glad to swap E out for essex with wasd

real notch
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not all of us are snobs KappaLUL

alpine finch
#

man

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how do people maximize points

vague token
#

you wait

alpine finch
#

put up a bad fleet and rng roll a huge difference?

real notch
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you basically get lucky

modern tree
#

you camp on your attempts and get lucky

real notch
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that's it

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yea

slow totem
#

No, your defense fleet actually doesn’t matter

real notch
#

just camp PVP lobby as often as possible

alpine finch
vague token
#

flood damage can kill right?

slow totem
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But as I said, the camping isn’t needed anymore

alpine finch
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like the difference is almost 2 fights

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lol

slow totem
#

You will get Gensui by the end

real notch
#

yep

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as long as u don't miss 6 matches like me

vague token
#

lol

alpine finch
real notch
#

even then i will still try

slow totem
#

Provided
-You don’t lose too much
-You don’t miss too many matches

alpine finch
#

if u research/ask for help/get criticism

modern tree
#

you can probably still get it if you rush it on the reset as soon as you are in range

alpine finch
#

u only lose to rng on washy

slow totem
#

I never bothered with rank up and got Gensui every season (except my very first)

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Inc missing the PvP Abuse DST moment

alpine finch
#

washy server fairly weak

slow totem
#

I’m in Lexington

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@vague token I don’t know tbh. I don’t even know how Flood Damage works

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Enlighten me

vague token
#

rip

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cause i hate when evade skills dont die to 1 hp fire

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melting that E with 700 damage ticks?

#

na

modern tree
#

isnt flood only on sara kai?

vague token
#

eldridge burning with 1 hp?

#

na

real notch
#

yep

vague token
#

essex has flood

real notch
#

i hate that too

slow totem
#

Dork has it too(?)

modern tree
#

ah

vague token
#

ill swap to essex wasd so fast

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just for the smoother performance

real notch
#

that's why u ideally want vanguard to survive

vague token
#

and super nope to all air

real notch
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so they can poke an enemy backline to death

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by doing 1 dmg

vague token
#

When Essex launches an airstrike: launch an additional TBF Avenger squadron that inflicts flood damage on hit. Damage against BBs (BCs and BBVs do not count) is increased by 4% (10%).

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glorious

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During battle, if the fleet contains 4 or more Eagle Union ships: 4.5% (12%) chance to reduce aircraft torpedo and bomb damage to 1.

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amaaaazing

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xD

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gimmmeeee

slow totem
#

So flood damage just means a lesser version of Helena’s radar scan...?

vague token
#

well, i dunno how much flood ticks for

slow totem
#

Flood tics?

real notch
#

flood is a form of burn

slow totem
vague token
#

it's a dot

#

like FIRE

slow totem
#

Ooooooh

real notch
#

yeae

slow totem
#

I see

vague token
#

but water

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xD

slow totem
#

But it’s WATER

vague token
#

saratoga kai actually does both

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with her skill

slow totem
#

Imagine being in a burning ship that’s sinking.

vague token
#

not that hard to imagine honestly

#

oil/fuel

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but yeah, essex solo should be fine with wasd

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as a utility carrier

#

reduce damage from akaga

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reduce from E

slow totem
#

I’d love to see her duelling Nakaga lineup

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When the time comes ofc

vague token
#

and BASED ON wiki wording

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you only lose 10% aviation

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from fielding her solo

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she still counts as 1 of the carriers in fleet

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so she'll get 5%

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and she can still get the temporary buff

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by shooting down planes

slow totem
#

She doesn’t have to be in an all CV lineup then, wunderbar

vague token
#

also the battleship damage boost is always on

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so do 10% more to nagato

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always

slow totem
#

Unlike Nagato who has to be in the flagship position.

vague token
#

xD

slow totem
#

I dislike Double E mexican standoff either

alpine finch
#

w8 do we have floods now

slow totem
#

The less that happens, the better

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💤

vague token
#

i always trade wash

alpine finch
#

or cn/jp only mechanic atm

vague token
#

cn/jp

slow totem
#

Not available yet here

vague token
#

we dont have any of the flood skills

alpine finch
#

ah

vague token
#

which is like, sara kai, some subs, essex

alpine finch
#

is essex or sara kai coming first

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i've never seen a sub

slow totem
#

Not anywhere close I think

vague token
#

i mean, that's the point

alpine finch
#

im guessing not EN yet?

vague token
#

jk

slow totem
#

We don’t even have subs yet

alpine finch
untold folio
#

^

alpine finch
#

what torp fighter for enty

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gold cuda?

untold folio
#

Ryusei for pvp

vague token
#

depends

untold folio
#

Tenzan for pvp

vague token
#

you can use aim torps if they arent using eldridge

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but if they are you're better with cuda

real notch
#

cuda deals more touchdown dmg

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like significantly more

vague token
#

cause then maybe they'll skip

untold folio
#

mehhhh

vague token
#

and hit the backline

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that too

real notch
#

fires faster

vague token
#

cuda is for main fleet damage

real notch
#

has better AA

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and more HP

vague token
#

ryuusei is for destroying vanguards

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if for w/e reason they arent using eldridge

alpine finch
#

i dont have ryuusei atm FeelsLifeMan

slow totem
#

I used to use Ryuusei

real notch
#

ryuusei is just if you want to have a chance at landing all 12 torps

alpine finch
slow totem
#

Then I switched to Gold Cuda

alpine finch
#

idk the options available for washy server since it came late

vague token
#

i was using ark royal but she just doesnt trade well at the 23