#pvp

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stark ice
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Yesterday I saw you above me

late heath
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He’s top, and you’re his bottom

lusty hill
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Which position is stronger in pvp?

knotty hazel
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right left down up

inner mango
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The only good ship in pvp is Janus and Kashino

lusty hill
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juwumi cooks

placid frigate
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I need 11 of that ship at less

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If it not possible, i just need 4 and make bulins do the rest

trail temple
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Why are you losing to an alt Serenity?

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You are not beating the allegations

jade heart
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Serenity only gets aotn because he pays for disarms smh

calm igloo
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Hi, maybe someone can help me create a good fleet. I've never taken PvP seriously, but I'd like to learn xd

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I don't know if this channel can help lol

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This is the most interesting

marsh sand
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No Lion?

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Also u can check the sheet on the pins

calm igloo
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I haven't played since the Raffaello event

high quest
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Check the pinned doc and see what teams you can form from there

calm igloo
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thx by any chance is there a guide like this for OS?

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xd

unkempt vortex
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Disclaimer: ||That sheet focuses the performances of most endgame content per ship (Excluding PVP), as that goes under the understanding of the player that needs to understand said endgame content...||

zenith tundra
unkempt vortex
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🥛 🍼

lusty hill
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Keep yourself safe

kind blade
trail temple
stiff sun
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What's going on with that request?

trail temple
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There's an alt going around asking for people to move for them

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Idc who actually did it, it ruins the spirit of the game

stiff sun
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How do you move for someone else?

bright mauve
# stiff sun How do you move for someone else?

Points gained are determined by the difference between you and your opponent.
If I have you as my opponent in arena, I'd rather fight you after you did your 5 attempts so I get more points

stiff sun
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Ohhhhh

late heath
jovial sedge
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I've reached heights no other mortal man has. I've crossed perilous realms no other mortal dared. For twelve leagues it is darkness throughout. My deeds will be praised for history to come. Many after me will try to recrate the myth but non shall succeed.

stable dawn
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unoathed, bricked

trail temple
opaque plaza
lusty hill
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Badonkadonk

unkempt vortex
frozen stream
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forgot to post shitkikan

jade heart
stark ice
green badger
trail temple
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Does AL now do cosmetic surgery?

late heath
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Yukikaze getting Kashino size boobs

unkempt vortex
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Nimi when she gets another buff

opaque plaza
kind blade
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Question: If Hakuhou can carry up to 10 aircrafts(higher than most CV), Why it's so rare to see her in PVP?

junior moss
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because cv sucks in pvp

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nakimov and lex ii are an exception due to survival abilities

vale minnow
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CVS are good in PvP

vale minnow
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Nakhimov and Lexington II are good because nakh resets her conceal gauge when she takes some damage, making her basically invuln to bb shelling

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Lexington 2 can reset conceal and negate damage for 2 seconds every time she loses 25% of total hp, and can do that for 4 times, so she will usually be the last ship standing

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Glorious meta was good because of her double air strikes, which meant she just does straight damage and kills before she gets killed

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Hakuhou doesn’t do that, so if she gets hit enough she just dies

calm igloo
hybrid agate
gloomy sand
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Had to do a few resets after a while. And that simply does not happen with the others (GlorM & Lex2, I don't use Nakhi)

lusty hill
kind blade
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Thank you for sharing.

deep hemlock
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are pvp leaderboard realtime?

vale minnow
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no

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go out and then back into leaderboard tab to refresh

fresh crescent
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Guys, is there a PvP Wiki guide out there?

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For what's the best ships to run for PvP?

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I use Fritz Rumey/New Jersey, Kearsarge/Vanguard, Musashi, Guam, Shima, Laffey II

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I wonder which ship/s should I replace or keep in my lineup

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~Thx

high quest
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Its here in the Pins for this channel

vale minnow
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this is an example fleet of current meta

fresh crescent
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I already saw it in the pins. Thanks guys

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So I really need to max out my Eldridge and Lion as well, I see

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Had anyone tried a fleet where the each backline character had an immunity to damage once they activate their skill?

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If so, is it a good main fleet with the current best vanguard ships rn?

hybrid agate
fresh crescent
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What will happen

hybrid agate
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you will lose due to lack of damage.

fresh crescent
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Ahh, thanks

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I won't do it. But the thing is,are they necessary to win though? Or is an all-damage build going to work?

hybrid agate
fresh crescent
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So meta fleets it is what it is?

void zealot
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<@&472236072743600148>

lusty hill
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Neromel cooks

blazing orbit
hybrid agate
junior moss
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is the comp viable?Glowow, i already know the answer btw

late heath
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Not as good as Kashino comp

unkempt vortex
unkempt vortex
junior moss
fresh crescent
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Guys,what is much better for ranking up, trying to beat a player of a lower rank and winning or challenging a higher rank player but losing the battle?

fresh crescent
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But what if you try to beat of a player of a slightly lower rank? Would it also bring down your current ranking?

fresh crescent
junior moss
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yes, tho you waste one chance to score points toward promotion

shrewd yacht
unkempt vortex
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This one

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Its just Lion's DoT Burn that can ignore most defense buffs except Invulnerablilty is what makes her too good

vale minnow
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Lion is like Alsace if Alsace was good

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Lion skill basically blasts everything lmao

shrewd yacht
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I tried analyzing the Skills she has

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its literally a copy paste of Alsace

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buffed up too much

fresh crescent
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If I could reach lvl 125 my Lion, I could've used it

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I just lack the dark blue chips

junior moss
shrewd yacht
vale minnow
vale minnow
shrewd yacht
vale minnow
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Idk actually

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I don’t PvP

shrewd yacht
unkempt vortex
# shrewd yacht Isn't it till the match ends?

This I am unsure either Rena,

Sure there is the first Barrage with the Burn, then comes her 2nd Barrage, which almost rivals an Airstrike (Assuming they are not filled with 2 Fighters/2 Torp Bombers, but this is PvP, so guaranteed Airstrikes still dmg alot)

stable dawn
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Lion DoT is so broken it can hit submarines while they are underwater in PvE lolololol

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very well designed character
extremely balanced

junior moss
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also oath material

light crystal
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event gap murmpleased

shrewd yacht
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Especially Season 1 Kotori

fresh crescent
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So Lion, NJ & Musashi backline good? So my vanguard should be something like, Guam/Anchorage, Laffey II, Shima/Eldridge retro

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I still need to level up my Eldridge retro since she's lvl 109 and I haven't unlocked her new retro skill yet

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So probably stick with Shima for now

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Btw is Date A Live a good anime to watch for peeps with decent background with anime watching?

vale minnow
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It’s a fun show to watch

vale minnow
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No that backline isn’t good on the basis that enemy cv will outstall you

fresh crescent
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Should I put at least one CV?

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Like Fritz Rumey or smth?

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Or something with a preload like Aquila?

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Btw is Kearsarge also gets that hidden mechanic like the CVs?

vale minnow
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Do you have Lexington two

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Also there’s a PvP sheet in pinned messages reading that might be useful

lusty hill
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The only issue is that she wears socks on the beach which isn't realistic

whole salmon
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Kotori Beamu

unkempt vortex
unkempt vortex
fresh crescent
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Guys, can I push Admiral rank with this fleet?

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[take a look at the defensive fleet since I also use it for my offensive fleet]

vale minnow
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yes
pick easier fights

stable dawn
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your pace might be too low though, overcapping is the #1 killer of pvpers

gloomy sand
fresh crescent
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How long will this season lasts?

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If I manage to max out my Eldridge retrofit & Lion, is it enough to reach Admiral rank?

hybrid agate
# fresh crescent How long will this season lasts?

a single season lasts for 14 days. Today's the 8th day, season will reset next Monday.
your score is probably too low to get you to Admiral. you can use the remaining days to test/max your fleet out and use all your 15 exercise tickets per day.

fresh crescent
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Okay. Let's see where I land in the rankings. Thanks for the info

molten breach
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Does Lex run HVARs for PvP because of destroyer meta?

hybrid agate
frozen stream
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-# and Yoshino is very strong in PVP (change my mind?)Nanoda

winged depot
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This feels like that one guy who keeps on promoting bataan

marsh sand
high quest
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For VG setup. I seen Eldridge wants offtank but between JintM and Laff2 who takes main tank slot?

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My phone hates google sheets so cant look at the pinned doc atm

vale minnow
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jimmothy, laffey, eld
from left to right

high quest
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All in for torp auxs on Jint right?

vale minnow
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rainbow dildo and black dildo

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itll be a bit rough without +13 but youll be fine (i think)

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the point of laffey is to survive as long as possible, which putting her as tank kinda kills that

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theres a pvp server if you want more help ranchSex

high quest
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If ive managed fleet admiral last 6 seasons running Agir Shima Eld I think I can make it work lol still tea torps or iris ones to nuke vg?

vale minnow
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mog

high quest
vale minnow
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theres a split between people liking tea or antilight torps
i havent done enough testing to make conclusions

high quest
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Ill probably try both and see what works till I get Yuki. My backline is fried tho

vale minnow
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what is it

high quest
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Right now triple BB, sey NJ WarKai praying for that Lion snipe early. Working on bulins for Lex2 and raising Kotori

vale minnow
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dear god

high quest
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Honestly its worked way better than expected with my horrendous vg setup. Only ever have issues with the top end meta setups

vale minnow
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id assume so yeawh

high quest
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If I can get early lion snipe with NJ and win the eld proc I can win somehow

vale minnow
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peak

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isnt it warkai snipe

high quest
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Na the NJ early shot bout half way before she fully fires. Shima usally lands a couple torps and +13 meck gun usally one taps

vale minnow
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one day youll pull a full meta fleet and become a degenerate

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the state of pvp

high quest
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Literally just missing Lion... I was just a couple weeks short of getting her when I started

vale minnow
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i was gonna offer lion replacements

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but i remembered that doesnt exist kinda

high quest
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Honestly with Kotori and Lex2 who would be best 3rd to slot in? Now that I got a proper VG

vale minnow
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who do you have

high quest
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At 60% collection with all perm URs and all event ships since the ryza collab. I can drop full dock if you want

vale minnow
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sure

high quest
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Give me a sec

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Can buy 4th bulin so I can MLB any SR

vale minnow
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what youre using is fine

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maybe musashi instead of nj

high quest
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Ill be swapping Sey out for Kotori once shes 125 right? And dropping warkai for Lex2?

grand jewel
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What's the best gear for LexII and kotori pvp?

grand jewel
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What is the meaning of both sides?

junior moss
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aka i think 15% less damage dealt by both fleets

grand jewel
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Me and my enemy?

broken spruce
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Yes

high quest
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Finally got to go over the sheet and looked at what gear is reccd and what i have/can make soon. Any major changes? i have one rat gun and one ply gun not sure who to throw it on. Ill be swapping WarKai for Lex2 later when i get more bulins

hybrid agate
high quest
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Which aux should i drop on sashi then for WNT? badge?

hybrid agate
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yeah badge, and put badge to Kotori.

high quest
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VG look fine tho? i can throw my single ply on Jint

hybrid agate
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put plygun on flagship Main Fleet if you have

high quest
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Sashi it is then

hybrid agate
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Musashi barrage scales on FP

high quest
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Looks like im ever so slightly less cooked now once i finish leveling laff and kotori

mortal aspen
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Without Yuki?

high quest
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Gonna grab her next time shes in medal shop for me

coral wren
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Didn't pull on the collab banner so I guess I'm just not pvping until that cancerous Kotori chick is muscled out of the meta one way or another nice one Manjuu

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Guess the best I can do is just drop Kotori for Seydlitz, what a let down

gloomy sand
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Not the end of the world. Just means you'll reset more

coral wren
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Yeah that's fair

junior moss
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this is such a skill issued reason tbh, unless you went 400 cubes in the collab you got no reason to comply, if you don't get the meta pvp shipgirl as in the case of an UR you still need to wait 2years for their rerun or 3years for the ship to become permapool, in 2y basically every ship goes out of meta in pvp, previous exceptions like laffei 2, or jinsu meta and probably eldkai

the only thing complainable about collabs are special gears in case you missed important ones since they could last for a very long time like the goldburn

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so really its just as if you missed a ur really

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i would be more concerned about useful gears

stable dawn
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Bruhhh :v

Ppl like me who only farming merits without need to be the most stronger or top player AOTN ranking had to deal with those commoner piece of shit who take longer to be dealing then meet other player who give easy defender to be farmed and whatever they put on their defender (for ppl who use commoner meta) i still can beat them so what is the point to be put it on first place? To make other ppl like me who only need farming merits take much time to be dealed? Even at the end that prideful formation can be beaten and some ppl like me who not have much time to play azurlane will take more time only for dealing with them (if) their refresh oppponent was already used

marsh sand
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Bruhhh :v

Ppl like me who only farming merits without need to be the most stronger or top player AOTN ranking had to deal with those commoner piece of shit who take longer to be dealing then meet other player who give easy defender to be farmed and whatever they put on their defender (for ppl who use commoner meta) i still can beat them so what is the point to be put it on first place? To make other ppl like me who only need farming merits take much time to be dealed? Even at the end that prideful formation can be beaten and some ppl like me who not have much time to play azurlane will take more time only for dealing with them (if) their refresh oppponent was already used

stable dawn
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why you copy me

stark ice
inner mango
marsh sand
trail temple
jade heart
marsh sand
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:keke:

lusty hill
sour oasis
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Are CVs back yet?

light crystal
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banger of a skin.

unkempt vortex
late heath
unkempt vortex
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As much as I hate to say this, yeah you get more in the Visual Novels of Date A Live

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Ren Dystopia, Rio Reincarnation, and etc...

lusty hill
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Hanzkanzlen cooks

blazing orbit
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Is this channel friendly to commoners?

bright mauve
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I'd say so, you pretty quickly catch up to the inside jokes

blazing orbit
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What jokes

bright mauve
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Mostly Serenity

blazing orbit
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Serenity is serious buisness?

bright mauve
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Some would definitely say that

blazing orbit
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I know it to be

high quest
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@vale minnow your cooking for my fleet rework worked out

vale minnow
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aotner

stiff sun
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So I've botched this PVP season. I took a loss on top of over-capping 5 exercises (busy day). I've probably obtained the highest rank in my position (Rear or Vice Admiral). Is there merit to saving 5 excercises to have a total of 10 after the reason resets?

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Does that help me maximize the total number of points I'd be able to earn in a season?

vale minnow
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On average yes

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For example, I sandbag, aka holding onto 10 at a time and going 5/10 before each reset

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I almost always hit admiral of the navy rank at 5-6/10
compared to other people needing to to 0/10

stiff sun
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Cool. thanks.

lusty hill
stiff sun
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Oh wut...dang.

lusty hill
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Always do the rushing strats before season reset

lusty hill
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Tittie lover cooks

inner mango
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Death, Taxes, and Serenity getting skill issues from unknown people

jade heart
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Serenity gets distracted from the enemy team laffey skin and loses fights

unkempt vortex
trail temple
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(and I am inclined to agree with that skin in particular)

frozen stream
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Please enjoy kotori OG bathrobe KotoriBorgar
The one Kotori swimsuit skin is probably happen after her marriage
-# or probably it could consider as her oath skin. Same as how i buy Yoshino skin for the same reason, it use for honeymoon Blessex

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Btw
Is ppl nowadays still use juneau kai in pvp?

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i was 69 days old in Az to see how Kotori change from cutie little sis 2013 in visual novel
To a biggyches FumizukiCross in 2025

All it take is twelve years for boobs to grow

stiff sun
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Here's something I don't understand about PvP. So I'm 25 points behind first place. But I've won every match so far and it's still early in the season. How am I so far behind? Are they just maximizing points by winning the hardests fights offered to them? I'm not quite at that stage. Sometimes I have to pick opponents below my rank, so I know I'm losing points there.

late heath
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Sandbag

lime rivet
stiff sun
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Okay, so I should be sandbagging then?

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Like wait until I have 10 attempts, and use 5 of themthem as close to the refresh as possible?

unkempt vortex
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I prefer this

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it won't change me

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If only this one is at her skin line

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yet again

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this needs to be Natsumi present in the Collab

stark ice
late heath
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or are you employed

frozen stream
frozen stream
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NozmiThumbsUp tbh i love the idea cuz since she had magic to turn big to small and viceversa
I would love to wait for Lil-Tohka, Lil-Origami, Lil-Yamai etc etc

frozen stream
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it would be funny if her OG is smol and her skin is bigSis ver NatsumiWink

stiff sun
brazen socket
steel coral
unkempt vortex
vale minnow
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as if this channel isnt off topic most of the time anyways

shrewd yacht
late heath
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I thought this is a pee v pee channel

stable dawn
stiff sun
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Any recommendations for improving my PvP fleet? Right now I run a modified version of my OpSi boss fleet because it's sort of "Best ships I own".
Main: Bisz (top), Lion (Mid), Perseus (Bottom)
Vanguard: Anchorage (Tank), Sandy (Mid), Eldridge (Off Tank)
For reference, you should be able to see my collection here #1448015331489611876 message. The only significant change is I have Ägir at 120 now.

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Oh yeah, I have Glorious Meta at 120, but I don't have the impotant PvP skill leveled yet.

trail temple
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Easiest answer is to check the pins and follow the spreadsheet

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That will show you what the best teams and their equips are

stiff sun
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Thanks. I did take a look, but I don't really have the ships for any of the pinned comps. So I'm trying to figure out what I can do until I can level the ships in the pinned spreadsheet.

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I can probably do Kotori, GloriousM, and Lion in a month or so.

trail temple
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That's the idea, grind up the meta ships so you can push

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You should have Laffey II now

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For the record, Agir is dogshit in pvp

stiff sun
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I do, but Laffey II might be a bit farther off as she's not in my farming rotation yet.

hybrid agate
stiff sun
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Cool. I’ll have to take a look at my bulin reserves.

frozen stream
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The man that wont stop crying

junior moss
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shimakaze oath at lvl 1MutsukiHyperStare

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man literally did dorm 2nd floor gaming

nocturne temple
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if I dont have ykkz and kotori raised do I use seydlitz and jintsuu for now?

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other 4 are lion lexy laffii eldridge

unreal surge
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I have a question, if eldridge is using prowler, can she still proc operation rainbow during prowler invuln? If no, then is using tulips more consistent?

hybrid agate
blazing orbit
junior moss
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someway of the other they got to 100 affinity at lvl 1, so unless they play island planner

molten breach
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Eeeerm~

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Their third main ship was in the wrong spot

upbeat ice
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If that's Odin, it's her skill. Puts her in front of the Flagship.

molten breach
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OIC that was probably it

terse mirage
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Aside from Eldridge, what are Meta vanguards for PVP?

broken spruce
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LaffeyII

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The third has some options (you can check it on the sheet pinned to this channel)

terse mirage
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Or Anchorage/Unzen

unreal surge
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Trafalgar and Unzen isn't pvp relevant, Anchorage is worse than the usual choices for third spot but still relatively usable. Check the pinned sheet

broken spruce
frozen stream
frozen stream
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Speculation around2026 anni?

unreal surge
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For EN anni, yeah probably

stiff sun
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Eldridge Retro in shop, Essesx rerun? Something like that?

unreal surge
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Probably, I don't remember when exactly Manjuu added Yuudachi's retro item to the shop

unkempt vortex
lusty hill
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Danilkon cooks

tranquil parrot
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My PVP fleet

lusty hill
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Unicorn is very cute

tranquil parrot
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Man, Laffey II is truly a nuclear weapon

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I mean, she's just lvl 113 but she still managed to beat the stronger enemy up.

broken spruce
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She is

frozen stream
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LilEnty i noticed the pvp in Azurlane are called as Exercise

do people Exercise in real life when they are doing Exercise in az?

late heath
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Imagine if they tied Eldridge RNG to how fast you can run irl

stiff sun
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Dang it, I think I overcapped again. 😩

plain jewel
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Is Alsace good in PvP? I use it just for story and siren

broken spruce
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She's quite good

trail temple
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Good, but the current comps prefer seyd and kotori; Seyd is permanently available

lusty hill
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This is pvp channel

stiff sun
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Bring you kid to work day!

lusty hill
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Child abuse

trail temple
tranquil parrot
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My Laffey II now is becoming a walking Hydrogen bomb

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If I oathed her, I'd name her "My little asteroid destroyer"

tranquil parrot
late heath
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Bring Lil Kashino to work day

lusty hill
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nebraska cooks

trail temple
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If you call out enough times, eventually you'll get it right

calm igloo
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hello if I don't have the Hellcat Hvar, what's the next best fighter option?

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And speaking of Hvar, is there an easier way to get blueprints from the War Archives? I've tried over 60 times and only got 10 blueprints.

vale minnow
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did you use the 2x thingies

calm igloo
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First yes, then no, mb is bad luck

vale minnow
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always use 2x things

lusty hill
tranquil parrot
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First time touch this rank🥹

hybrid wigeon
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Greetings, what are the best characters and equipment for current PvP?

hybrid wigeon
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Does that equipment really work? I've used it but it doesn't hit anyone.

high quest
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They work great on JintsuM with black torp aux

gloomy sand
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Yeah, it's pretty good

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Because this is DD meta and they're all Light armor

lusty hill
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Juwumy cooks

tranquil parrot
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First time touched the 1st rank

untold widget
tranquil parrot
lusty hill
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Who is she

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Is she good at pvp

untold widget
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She is Rimu 😄

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And she the goat of PVP!

lusty hill
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Very cute

prime igloo
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cute = goated pvp meta ship? noted Noteshiro

late heath
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Kashino is cute

opaque plaza
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Kashino is massive

unkempt vortex
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Humongous

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Cowpens

lavish karma
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imagine if pvp was won by cup size

trail temple
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We aren't far from that reality

burnt plume
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Lex is tier 0 and they gave her a big old buff...

whole salmon
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Do these stack?

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Guess we’ll never know

whole salmon
prime igloo
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Lex I got her personality buffed and now Lex II is THE meta pvp cv ship

prime igloo
whole salmon
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Feels like this is gonna be pepega

blazing orbit
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whats the lex buff

burnt plume
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Her cup size. xD

light crystal
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Floof Meta.

lusty hill
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Jintsuu meta good

trail temple
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I changed my secretary to a pre 2025 ship and noticed my wr% go up

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Give it a try

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(this is for mirror matches btw)

late heath
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I married to Kashino and haven’t lost a match since

trail temple
frozen stream
frozen stream
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Why does this dude gonna pvp with @Moderator ?

stable dawn
shell raft
lavish karma
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<@&460646206851252224>

abstract cove
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Hmmmm, I notice that there is now a bug in PvP. Your ships can die to fire damage, whereas enemy ships cannot

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Lex 2 randomly dying to fire damage is not a thing

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Yet it happens

hybrid agate
abstract cove
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It's as I said, your ships can die to fire damage, whereas enemy ships cannot

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I'm not sure if this is an exclusive lex 2 bug or not

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In PvP, as you probably already know, ships can't die to fire damage (they always take damage, reducing them to 1 hp, live and take '0' damage for the remainder of the burn duration)

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But this isn't the case with lex 2. She dies to fire damage (only your lex 2 does, enemy lex 2 does NOT)

lavish karma
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Lex2 obv grass type

stable dawn
#

rounding error

gloomy sand
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I'm currently running this CN fleet and there's a note for a specific frontliner bote to use +10 gear aux instead of max enhance

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because using the max enhance aux makes the ship susceptible to damage from Lion burn

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Matters with survivability more

lusty hill
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Keep up the good work queen

trail temple
lusty hill
#

Dead chat

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Kid named I don't get aotn this season

junior moss
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who was to be the flag? kotori or lexington?

gloomy sand
junior moss
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thanks, i did things propely then

stable dawn
whole salmon
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Welp

light crystal
#

And I thought I was doing bad. Washi has fallen PensiveCowboyTurkeyLeg

stable dawn
#

top 100 was 2487

trail temple
#

Turns out you can sink lower than the bottom

blazing orbit
#

Get to bedrock and find out minecraft lied; you can dig further down

whole salmon
#

Could also be Origami

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The barrages pulls in ships like a black hole, we have this before

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But this one is bugged and can pull stationary ships on the backline

shell raft
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New pvp tech

junior moss
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wasn't there a time when the pins had the pvp refreshes timetable?

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regardless i know what they are

junior moss
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question, i noticed my lexi firing her planes basically 90% of times after the opponent vanguard is dead or its in an invulnerable state, so why are light armor planes recommended for her?

vale minnow
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becuase you are lucky with rng and the opponent's vanguard dies fast

stable dawn
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because 99% of players don't put up real defense fleets

steel coral
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because the sheet is a psyop

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the higher ups are lying to you

trail temple
junior moss
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idk, i feel like the light break strat is more something to use in defense

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for offense it seems better to focus on heavy/med damage since i can control wich vanguard lives by refreshing

vale minnow
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lol

lusty hill
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Tenrai tech MutsukiHyperStare

steel coral
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that way you don't just hit laffey's summons, you hit her AND her summons Glowow

trail temple
#

Oh and that plane loadout has much better AA so you will take less crash damage from enemy CVs

stable dawn
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don't forget to equip your submarine fleet too

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and ASW plane aux on Lex2

junior moss
#

guess moskva is not good for pvp?

stable dawn
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she's T0

junior moss
#

idk if i should trust someone recommending asw planes

vale minnow
#

Moskva is T0
I confirmed

junior moss
trail temple
#

If you don't trust the pvp spreadsheet, why would you trust one of the writers?

late heath
#

Trust in Kashino

stable dawn
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on offense you shouldn't even use lex2, she's slow and lumbering like formi and doesn't even do damage or freeze enemy

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use 3bb instead

shell raft
bright mauve
stable dawn
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wdym serenity wrote the sheet

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it's just like in 1984 how the opposition was controlled by Big Brother all along

bright mauve
#

woah spoilers I just started reading that..

lusty hill
#

I recommend to quit pvp before it's too late

unkempt vortex
#

Smartest thing Serenity said since 1986

wicked surge
stable dawn
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everything is pvp viable in captain rank

unkempt vortex
#

No loss mitigation for some reason in Captain Rank

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the Calculation is real

high quest
#

Is it worth crafting rainbow quints for Yuki or is 550s enough?

vale minnow
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dont do rainbow quints

high quest
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i choose to read lol

vale minnow
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idk then lol

high quest
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Its got 550s in the pics but description says rainbows lol i got both

steel coral
#

ideally yuki wants torps that will hit the most amount of enemies to take full advantage of her flood damage

stable dawn
#

just use the HE torps

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descriptions on the sheet are often outdated, especially for older ships

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you can still see mention of like previous metas in them lol

high quest
#

iris torps it is then. Im missing lion but got kotori and lex2, who would be best 3rd?

unkempt vortex
junior moss
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missing lion = not winning vs good lion comp unless good rng

vale minnow
#

Multiple responses and not a single one is answered his question NagaShock

junior moss
unkempt vortex
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Using Alsace or Musashi in that Position is Cope within the Kotori-Lex 2 comp

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Lion really just has her own Tier

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Its still possible to beat the other teams with the current meta fleet, your problem really is just Lion since it just Gaps the competition.

BB Fleets with Lion can do some damage well to the Current META fleet even if it doesn't one shot....

junior moss
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amd i guess the teams in testing are the kotori/lex 2,nakimov,lion ; moskov,eldkai,laffeii
and lex2,kotori,lion; moskov,eldkai and laffeii?NurnNom

vale minnow
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whats moskva supposed to do

stable dawn
vale minnow
#

0 testing needed

stable dawn
#

CN tested her and it was pathetic

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and if you read her skills, it makes sense. CA with no real defenses besides a conditional percent damage reduction trigger AND absorbs damage from backline i.e. she can get burned by Lion multiple times.

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so basically when eldy invuln isn't up, she's helpless

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but it's way funnier if everyone thinks she's going to be T0 anyway

blazing orbit
#

kashino sweeps

quiet cedar
#

how good is moskva in PvP

lusty hill
#

Probably not that good

light crystal
#

Probably that good

shell raft
#

Probably somewhere in between not that good and that good

prime gull
#

PVP adventures

manic prism
#

I’m surprised their name isn’t A Bruhastic Bin or something similar

hidden robin
#

why not Bruhou

lavish karma
#

*bruhoe

unkempt vortex
mortal aspen
#

So what thoughts about Gascone augment?

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Mini 🦁?

lusty hill
#

Pretty cope

mortal aspen
#

I guess I try. She already 120 and have no use in dock

lusty hill
sick moon
#

i am allowed to chat here finally

lavish karma
lusty hill
#

Keep yourself safe

late heath
lusty hill
#

Ognevoy and flandre is making me unwise

bright mauve
void zealot
#

the flatter the chest the closer you are to her heart

lusty hill
#

Keep yourself safe

sand cliff
#

Hi chat can someone give me a gear for pvp Nachimov

unkempt vortex
hardy kernel
#

My journey ends here

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You guys have a courtesy of where you stop grinding exercise after reaching AoTN and let the othe players pass you?

vale minnow
#

Some people stop caring after aotn

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some continue because of more merit points
degenerates take pvp seriously until the last minute

stable dawn
unkempt vortex
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Add Gems at AOTN or top 10 then most if not the whole playerbase actually does PVP

stable dawn
#

delete pvp from the game

unkempt vortex
lusty hill
#

Personally I recommend the giving up strats or the retiring strats

hardy kernel
burnt plume
#

I was doing so good but then forgot on Thursday about a set of 5.

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Though I've also missed 10 before and still hit AotN so I'm still going.

lusty hill
#

juwumy cooking like always

burnt plume
#

Yeah, this run doesn't look like it's gonna be an AotN for me. The gap isn't closing.

unkempt vortex
# stiff sun I never thought of this. Huh.

This is quite common if you want the achievement for reaching AOTN, then just use your extra moves while you are still on rank 1 for those merits without having the care to maintain that rank

trail temple
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You can miss 15 matches in a season and still hit aotn if you are desperate enough

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Possibly more

abstract cove
#

By hard rushing, I mean immediately post daily reset (or exercise reset), hard rush all 10 attempts to get just barely enough to squeeze into top 10

junior moss
opaque plaza
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I want to tryhard

prime igloo
#

Bad

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Super

opaque plaza
#

I have laffey 2 and eldridge rétro is this super op ?

prime igloo
#

Meta units

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Just add in yukikaze

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Or lyme

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For vanguard

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Backline is lion bot seydlitz/kotori mid lex ii top

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Actually just go check pinned link

stable dawn
#

bis2 and uvh are among the worst URs you could have picked for pvp

junior moss
#

wasn't bis2 decent? like wasn't there at leadt a time where she was used?

vale minnow
#

decent for what

steel coral
#

Half KMS fleet is about as good as it gets

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basically just the lex2 fleet but worse

jade heart
#

~~ just uses foxes ~~~~ foxes are love foxes are life ~~

trail temple
stable dawn
#

she was decent at losing

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briefly used in a gimmick fleet on defense and that was it. On attack she was never good.

odd bridge
#

she was GREAT at losing

unkempt vortex
prime igloo
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just overslept and missed 5 exercise

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wow

olive wigeon
#

Is wichita meta the new meta frontliner over yuki? Ran into the t0 fleet but with wichita meta instead of yuki and it was kicking my shit in (even though i had oath advantage etc on all ships)

gloomy sand
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someone cooked and you're the victim

olive wigeon
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nah i just left the battle and refreshed for a easier opponent

olive wigeon
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they had the same fleet but swap yukikaze for wichita meta

vale minnow
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💀

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Man was cooking

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Maybe you also had bad rng with Eldridge procs

olive wigeon
#

they didnt even have any oaths either

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no

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i tried twice

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i read wichita meta skills and i think its cus she gets 8 second invuln when she's supposed to die

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and then she gets 20% heal

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idk either way my vanguard got obliterated

jade heart
#

Lost to the glass cannon god

vale compass
#

hi, how cool are Movska + Nakhimov for pvp? Cheers

mortal aspen
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Hm... my guessing not worth. If moskwa dies nakhimov dies too. Almost no scenario when nakhimov dies first than vanguard

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Big faty ship for Lion burn

vale minnow
unkempt vortex
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first Moskva is a CA, so it already hinders her survivability despite being tanky

stable dawn
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Moskva is probably the best ship in pvp for throwing

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Lion's burn DoT gets duplicated on her

unkempt vortex
#

forgot about that skill TaihouScared

lusty hill
#

Moskva is just bad at pvp

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What are you trying to gain by missleding people

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Do better next time

stable dawn
#

evidently soneone doesn't understand what throwing is

stiff sun
#

Throwing means to lose.

jade heart
#

Avg serenity moment

trail temple
#

He does it for attention

bright mauve
#

It works

stable dawn
#

are you saying he's a master baiter?

bright mauve
#

I'd bite

shy dove
#

Does Anyone have an image that shows the bonus point for pvp between attacker and defender's rank

stable dawn
#

I think it's on the AL wiki

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yeah there's a table

deft tide
#

do anyone want an PVP competition?

unkempt vortex
#

if that's even possible to begin with within one of the neglected modes of the game and also the modes that gets affected a lot by one miniscule change

lavish karma
#

irl pvp

wicked surge
#

Honestly idk if serenity is baiting or just bad at the game

shell raft
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Can't it be both?

terse mirage
#

so, how well does this line up hold up in PVP chat

Lion Hakuhou GloriMETA
Eldridge Retro Sandy Laffey2

stable dawn
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why use sandy

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why use hakuhou

terse mirage
stable dawn
#

most of hakuhou's buffs come from having other IJN ships, so putting her in solo is pointless

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planes in pvp have an enormous HP buff which makes them practically impossible to shoot down

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sandy has no real defenses beyond that

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so she's a waste of a slot

terse mirage
#

Plymouth?

stable dawn
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do you have Jintsuu META, Lyme, or Yukikaze?

terse mirage
stable dawn
#

how far do you intend to take pvp

terse mirage
#

I got halted at Rear Admiral

stable dawn
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which admiral? There are like 5 different admiral ranks

terse mirage
#

just one time and I will quit PVP after

stable dawn
#

you're on Amagi, so fleets will get a lot harder once you climb higher

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I recommend farming Seydlitz from War Archives

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that way you can assemble a semi-functional backline

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Seydlitz Mid with WNT
GlorM top
Lion bottom

terse mirage
stable dawn
#

for vg you can attempt to use Anchorage, Laffey II, Eldridge

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but it's an uphill battle if you encounter enemy Yukis

terse mirage
stable dawn
#

no because she has no real defenses

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PvP is all about invuln stacking now

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while still dealing enough damage to kill your opponent

terse mirage
#

isnt Plymouth better than Ancho

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or am I missing something

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I have Plymouth developed already, I just need to raise her for a while

stable dawn
#

Plymouth has no invulnerability

terse mirage
#

😭

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I guess I have to halt PVP for a little longer then

stable dawn
#

PvP is very different from PvE

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but like, you can definitely make do with the ships you have

terse mirage
#

I thought GloriMETA and Lion would already be enough to yeet people

I guess I was wrong skeleton

stable dawn
#

no because both are DPS units

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you need at least 1 invuln on backline

terse mirage
#

so where do I get Seydlitz again

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which campaign of War Archives

stable dawn
#

idk just check the wiki I guess

#

anyway permanent content, play at your own pace

terse mirage
#

ok so I gotta wait for DD medal shop again

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to grab Yukikaze

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then grab Seydlitz

stable dawn
#

once you have a decent fleet, main difficulty will just be not overcapping

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you get 15 attempts per day, in 12, 6, and 6 hour intervals, each giving 5 ex

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not 10

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players can only hold 10, so it's very easy to just forget to do 5 and they disappear

opaque plaza
gloomy sand
#

<@&472236072743600148>

#

pvp is now person vs hacker

stable dawn
late heath
#

Another fallen user

prime igloo
#

wat happen

lusty hill
rare garnet
#

FAFO happened

opaque plaza
#

<@&472236072743600148>

lusty hill
#

All actions have consequences

lusty hill
#

@inner mango

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@zinc falcon you too

ocean dawn
#

is kotori just a better syridiz?

stable dawn
#

yes

wild tide
#

Some Campaign "meta" ships aren't going to be good in PVP right? I figured I could use ships in PvP that have some form of invincibility

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Rn I have JuneauRetro, EldridgeRetro, and Jintsuu meta for my vanguard but I'm not sure what to put on main fleet

ocean dawn
#

so when did 3 bb drop out of meta for pvp?

upbeat ice
#

Probably when Glorious Meta descended upon pvp?

steep condor
#

Lion, basically

gloomy sand
# ocean dawn so when did 3 bb drop out of meta for pvp?

Lion and GlorM dropped on the same event

You only need one Lion shelling and (two!) GlorM airstrike launch/es to delete everyone who isn't invulnerable

There were also reports that solo Lion can defeat the pre-Lion T0 fleets. I guess that's why GoT (Musashi Alsace Soyuz) took a MASSIVE nosedive from T0 to T3 in the days that followed

stable dawn
ocean dawn
#

Oh I just changed Alsace to lion lol

shrewd yacht
#

Warspoot with Augment and Royal Oak was used only for a month before Invul backline now was a thing

#

I think

#

Is Dead Master and Hiryuu still viable? even with Lex 2 on the fleet?

#

Seydlitz still usable, just a slightly worse Kotori?

#

Vanguard tho has some mixes

#

Especially Lyme

#

which needs her Augment that bad to remove her 3 sec evade limitation that needs another Tempesta Ship to be with

steep condor
#

Seydlitz is still usable, kotori is just a good bit tougher and more powerful

#

Lex2 probably solo beats Hiryuu + Dead Master just on invuln gates tbh, especially since Lion will cripple whichever carrier isn't in top slot

lusty hill
#

@zinc falcon disarm your fleet now

gloomy sand
#

<@&472236072743600148> pvp this guy

leaden jay
#

lol

#

/kick 426684016360554506 Compromised account.

chilly ospreyBOT
#

sf_2031#0 got kicked. Reason: Compromised account.

wraith eagle
fleet laurel
#

Um, should I use Kegel or KLAN fleet? Is both GlorM and Nakhi have their own pros and cons or one of them is better?NagaThonk

steep condor
#

(Assuming you don't have lex2 as she beats both)
Glorm has better spike damage with her doublestrike, nakhimov has better survivability with way more ehp and one restealth

fleet laurel
#

I see, thank you

wild tide
#

What's that main gun used for monarch? Wouldn't it be better to use the twin rainbow USS gun?

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Twin 457mm is the name I believe

hybrid agate
#

what's your Main Fleet looking like? it depends, you need to stagger BB salvo for multiple BB

wild tide
#

Oh

#

Full HMS with Howe and Duke York

#

Actually idk... Monarch is using the limited Russian gun from an event and the sequence goes like Duke>Monarch>Howe

hybrid agate
#

I see, she goes later in most case, use the USS twin 157.

#

use a faster gun on the other two like MK4s

long barn
#

this the new pvp tank queen?

hybrid agate
#

still a 3rd ship alongside with LaffeyII and Eldridge

long barn
#

since i have yukikaze, i probably shouldn't bother then? since i gotta bother leveling her up and raising affection?

hybrid agate
#

if you want variety, she's a good pick

long barn
#

does one over the other perform better for defense vs offense?

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like defense fleet in pvp

hybrid agate
#

not really, will depend on your Eldridge invul proc.

gloomy sand
long barn
stable dawn
#

you'd be surprised. She's easily one of the tankiest vgs in the game despite being an IX

long barn
#

oh. also Enhancing for fp & reload. i'll dump my commons in there to raise that upEssexWheeze

jade heart
#

Did i miss her

rare garnet
lusty hill
#

ShadyMatty cocks

long barn
uneven sleet
#

Nice I see it works KievPray

inner mango
#

No lion = Dead pvp fleet

gloomy sand
uneven sleet
uneven sleet
#

I still see Lionless fleets that beat my ass so...

uneven sleet
steep condor
#

with what you've got, best bet might be something like:
lex2, soyuz, monarch (?)
anchorage, laffey2, maybe kurumi

#

jintsuu meta is still good and is available in meta dossier (would take kurumi's slot)

gloomy sand
#

check pvp sheet in pins for deets

uneven sleet
#

Nice, thank you both! I saw that every single pvp rec. was Lion so I had to ask haha

#

Ah you might mean the Newbie/Budget part of the guide. Yeah, true true

gloomy sand
#

it's going to be hard for lion-less players... but dw there's going to be the silver lining of knowledge

uneven sleet
#

It's good, I'm content if I can get more merits for the time being. When Lion reruns or some counter emerges I will shoot for the absolute win haha

gloomy sand
#

there's a bit more than 1 year for the lion rerun, roughly speaking

#

but for sure, there's going to be some meta shift here and there before then

lusty hill
#

Keep yourself safe

stable dawn
#

rank 1 player

lapis bolt
hybrid agate
#

@lusty hill keep yourself safe serenity

jade heart
#

Serenity is not beating the lolicon allegations

lusty hill
#

keep yourself safe

trail temple
lusty hill
#

Knows that all actions have consequences

#

The dildo of consequence rarely arrives lubed

buoyant parrot
#

X_x

lusty hill
#

juwumy cock

#

@shell raft disarm your cock

hybrid agate
lusty hill
#

@shell raft thanks for moving, now lets talk about disarming your cock

shrewd yacht
shell raft
shell raft
leaden jay
winged depot
lusty hill
#

G A B cock

lusty hill
#

Neromel cock

high quest
#

This good for Spite? rainbow tables tied up on other ships atm and kotori is using 457

trail temple
#

Btw, just in case, you know gold shell only works on her shelling damage? Her barrage don't benefit from it outside of the FP boost

high quest
#

Would whie be better for her in this case then?

trail temple
rose pecan
#

whats the strongest "strongest" fleet for pvp nowadays stopped updating at around when jintsu meta became meta for pvp vanguard

shrewd yacht
#

Check the pinned document

gloomy sand
#

Clanker 🥀

lusty hill
#

shiburin cock

stable dawn
shell raft
lusty hill
lusty hill
#

just lost to shiburin BelCry

#

shiburin alwasy serve the best cock in pvp

#

it feels unfair

#

no other player have cock like shiburin

static iris
jade heart
#

Its a Terrible day to have eyes

trail temple
#

Can always call a mod if you think he's taken it too far

lusty hill
#

Shiburin has taken pvp too far

#

What's their secret

#

I need to know

junior moss
#

the secret is to have freetime when there is tiket refreshes

late heath
#

If you’re far enough, you can be #1

lusty hill
#

Just got cocked by shiburin again

#

Is it time for me to quit pvp?
:updog: for yes
:ca: for no

opaque plaza
#

Who is that shiburin

long urchin
#

i dont recornise any of these main fleets anymore ;_;
vanguard meta not changed at all tho lol

#

missed the lex II event despair

broken spruce
lusty hill
trail temple
#

That*

#

Also wrong, UNULTRA is the best pvper to have ever existed

lusty hill
#

Who's unultra

broken spruce
#

<@&472236072743600148>

prime gull
#

PvP adventures:

jade heart
lusty hill
#

Keep yourself safe

stable dawn
#

does pvp get you girls

broken spruce
#

NahMurmWat

winged depot
#

it nets you dudes

opaque plaza
#

Again JeanDead

lusty hill
light crystal
junior moss
#

so thats the cock he means

prime gull
#

PvP adventures

stiff sun
#

Beach episode.

#

Who's on the right? "Bibble"?

#

Also leftmost Vanguard. "The"?

lusty hill
#

Jimmy deez nuts

stable dawn
#

holy shit is that juwumy

opaque plaza
#

Finally

stable dawn
#

where big star

junior moss
#

<@&472236072743600148> ban this filth

light crystal
lusty hill
#

Congrats Glowow

shell raft
#

Ranchchamp

jade heart
mortal siren
light crystal
#

How you sandbag PvP?

mortal siren
light crystal
#

Rebalance the ladder

mortal siren
#

how to Rebalance the ladder

lusty hill
#

very cool

light crystal
lusty hill
#

:god:

dull fiber
#

Aoste grabs his first win in quite literally a century

#

I was still in middle school when Aoste last won

#

👵

#

They say as long as you keep going nothing is impossible

lusty hill
lusty hill
#

Patonix cocks

lusty hill
#

Kis named I will overcap

rare garnet
mortal siren
mortal siren
stable dawn
#

your gear is already perfect
could be the pvp cheaters ruining your game

junior moss
# light crystal How you sandbag PvP?

you take a bag and go to a beach, then till 10 minutes before pvp tiket recharge you stuff sand into your bag; by that point you do 5 attaks and then reiterate

light crystal
#

you take your bag and dangle it in front your opponents to make them do your bidding

rare garnet
light crystal
#

u go max hp flamuTHICC

#

legit she MVP's like 1/3 of the time portRaise

lusty hill
#

Keep yourself safe

long terrace
#

How do i kill the cocroach known laf 2

late heath
#

Kashino

lusty hill
long terrace
#

Alasace bis2 mekrel laf2 z52 unzen

junior moss
#

no lion?PortDoll

mellow geyser
#

every times i see Littles fleet

lusty hill
trail temple
#

@stable dawn Someone's obsessed with you

stable dawn
#

who are you people

lusty hill
stable dawn
#

uninstall the game

#

then you will be free

lusty hill
#

it shall be done Blessex

shrewd yacht
#

Can I ask politely, without a Laffey 2, who can be considered an "alternative"

#

I only play for merits, but there are times that I get to a full lobby of Meta fleets with no refresh moves left

#

and I do kinda hate the time where I have to wait till reset for that to happen

gloomy sand
shrewd yacht
#

Since I know Z52 and Kurumi Tokisaki melts like butter

#

So is it time to cope on Yuki - Anchorage - Eld?

or

Anchorage - Mintsuu - Eld?

trail temple
#

You're pretty much in cope territory

#

You could always follow the JP and CN meta and use jintm, shima and Eld

hybrid agate
#

and look the screen

light crystal
lusty hill
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@shell raft disarm your cock

terse mirage
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Who do I put as tank, Laffey 2 Yukikaze or Eldridge?

stiff sun
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Laffey II goes in the middle. Maybe one of the veteran players can weigh in on how important it may be for Yuki or Eldy to be Tank vs Off Tank.

hybrid agate
trail temple
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@stable dawn NewJersex whiteShell

prime gull
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PvP adventures

fleet laurel
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Is the director's screenplay less good than other auxiliaries?

dense slate
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that is one way to do pvp

dense slate
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but overall is a good alternative if you lack it

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the food item has a small heal for her after all

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it also heals the wearer so i would also favor the onigiri even in Kotoriless fleets

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since it has a small speed advantage

gloomy sand
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pvp is simpler than you think

rare garnet
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just don't play it EssexWheeze

lusty hill
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Keep yourself safe

ripe cedar
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found this dude too

ripe cedar
lusty hill
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Shut down this game mode

ripe cedar
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the p in pvp stands for pedophile

late heath
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PvP

Pee v pee

trail temple
prime gull
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PvP adventures

lusty hill
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keep yourself safe

prime gull
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PvP adventures

pseudo copper
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ded channel, ded gaemmode

shell raft
twilit wadi
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Mod

sudden spoke
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@sudden flume Let's refrain from images of that kind.

junior moss
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was that a skin?AkagiShock

sudden spoke
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Nah. dodgy names on the ships.

twilit wadi