#pvp
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He’s top, and you’re his bottom
Which position is stronger in pvp?
right left down up
juwumi cooks
I need 11 of that ship at less
If it not possible, i just need 4 and make bulins do the rest
Serenity only gets aotn because he pays for disarms smh
Hi, maybe someone can help me create a good fleet. I've never taken PvP seriously, but I'd like to learn xd
I don't know if this channel can help lol
This is the most interesting
Check the pinned doc and see what teams you can form from there
There is a Tierlist for Endgame Players, but that falls under #gameplay-help under the Sheet Creator, Suchiguma
Disclaimer: ||That sheet focuses the performances of most endgame content per ship (Excluding PVP), as that goes under the understanding of the player that needs to understand said endgame content...||
would use musashi lexi 2 seydlitz, laffey 2 will rerun soon so level her and eldridge retro + probably jintsuu meta or yukikze (jintsuu would probably be better because you lack damage without lion)
Holy cow!
Very unethical
What's going on with that request?
There's an alt going around asking for people to move for them
Idc who actually did it, it ruins the spirit of the game
How do you move for someone else?
Points gained are determined by the difference between you and your opponent.
If I have you as my opponent in arena, I'd rather fight you after you did your 5 attempts so I get more points
Ohhhhh
do you have any milk bottle left?
I've reached heights no other mortal man has. I've crossed perilous realms no other mortal dared. For twelve leagues it is darkness throughout. My deeds will be praised for history to come. Many after me will try to recrate the myth but non shall succeed.
unoathed, bricked
God this gif 
Paizuzu queen 
Badonkadonk
Taihou Cowprint Bikini when 
No oaths... bricked
I salute your taste 
forgot to post shitkikan


My god haha
Does AL now do cosmetic surgery?
Yukikaze getting Kashino size boobs
Nimi when she gets another buff

Question: If Hakuhou can carry up to 10 aircrafts(higher than most CV), Why it's so rare to see her in PVP?
because cv sucks in pvp
nakimov and lex ii are an exception due to survival abilities
CVS are good in PvP
She doesn’t have any concealment gauge reset
Or and special skills that’ll make her survive on current meta
Nakhimov and Lexington II are good because nakh resets her conceal gauge when she takes some damage, making her basically invuln to bb shelling
Lexington 2 can reset conceal and negate damage for 2 seconds every time she loses 25% of total hp, and can do that for 4 times, so she will usually be the last ship standing
Glorious meta was good because of her double air strikes, which meant she just does straight damage and kills before she gets killed
Hakuhou doesn’t do that, so if she gets hit enough she just dies
Thx chef, but is Seydlitz better in mid or bottom? I don't quite understand his third ability
its a pseudo/delayed pre-load. it works in either position. the current meta make her work best at mid as she delays the Lion burn spread to the CV at top.
thx thx
used her for a while and she basically doesn't have the gimmicks that made Nakhimov, GlorM & Lex2 meta here. Just damage and all that
Had to do a few resets after a while. And that simply does not happen with the others (GlorM & Lex2, I don't use Nakhi)
Cooking?
Thank you for sharing.
are pvp leaderboard realtime?
Guys, is there a PvP Wiki guide out there?
For what's the best ships to run for PvP?
I use Fritz Rumey/New Jersey, Kearsarge/Vanguard, Musashi, Guam, Shima, Laffey II
I wonder which ship/s should I replace or keep in my lineup
~Thx
Its here in the Pins for this channel
this is an example fleet of current meta
I already saw it in the pins. Thanks guys
So I really need to max out my Eldridge and Lion as well, I see
Had anyone tried a fleet where the each backline character had an immunity to damage once they activate their skill?
If so, is it a good main fleet with the current best vanguard ships rn?
yes, but it won't win a match.
What will happen
you will lose due to lack of damage.
Ahh, thanks
I won't do it. But the thing is,are they necessary to win though? Or is an all-damage build going to work?
sure they can all work if you avoid meta fleets.
So meta fleets it is what it is?
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Neromel cooks
commoner fleet

is the comp viable?
, i already know the answer btw
Not as good as Kashino comp
I remember someone gave a fleet with Raffaelo on it, it was doable Pre-Lion Era tho... Against the Old GoT Fleet
pre lion is a huge step
, the difference between no lion and lion is incredible i dare say
Guys,what is much better for ranking up, trying to beat a player of a lower rank and winning or challenging a higher rank player but losing the battle?
you don't rank up if you lose
But what if you try to beat of a player of a slightly lower rank? Would it also bring down your current ranking?
So you keep your rank after that?
yes, tho you waste one chance to score points toward promotion
I am unsure about this in PVP Standards, but its probably because of her burn skill, Unlike Alsace, her burn isn't "coded" like a special burn as I have heard...
So Lion is like Alsace but on Steroids, the the gap is real
This one
Its just Lion's DoT Burn that can ignore most defense buffs except Invulnerablilty is what makes her too good
I tried analyzing the Skills she has
its literally a copy paste of Alsace
buffed up too much
If I could reach lvl 125 my Lion, I could've used it
I just lack the dark blue chips
she has no preloaded barrage
No preloaded Volley and Barrage but compensates with an early Barrage similar to a preload
120 lion is still good
That barrage also burns for long time
Isn't it till the match ends?

This I am unsure either Rena,
Sure there is the first Barrage with the Burn, then comes her 2nd Barrage, which almost rivals an Airstrike (Assuming they are not filled with 2 Fighters/2 Torp Bombers, but this is PvP, so guaranteed Airstrikes still dmg alot)
Lion DoT is so broken it can hit submarines while they are underwater in PvE lolololol
very well designed character
extremely balanced
yess, lion is the best
also oath material
event gap 
Diabolical Fucking Skin 
I know you loved that Skin Joe, don't Deny it... Kurumi maybe present, but that skin might have triggered your early days on Date A Live 
Especially Season 1 Kotori
So it's the difference between winning and losing?
So Lion, NJ & Musashi backline good? So my vanguard should be something like, Guam/Anchorage, Laffey II, Shima/Eldridge retro
I still need to level up my Eldridge retro since she's lvl 109 and I haven't unlocked her new retro skill yet
So probably stick with Shima for now
Btw is Date A Live a good anime to watch for peeps with decent background with anime watching?
It’s a fun show to watch
It can be in very high end comps against maxed enemies
No that backline isn’t good on the basis that enemy cv will outstall you
Should I put at least one CV?
Like Fritz Rumey or smth?
Or something with a preload like Aquila?
Btw is Kearsarge also gets that hidden mechanic like the CVs?
Do you have Lexington two
Also there’s a PvP sheet in pinned messages reading that might be useful
Best skin honestly
The only issue is that she wears socks on the beach which isn't realistic
No.
Despite being true,
I am going to kill you.
Guys, can I push Admiral rank with this fleet?
[take a look at the defensive fleet since I also use it for my offensive fleet]
yes
pick easier fights
Atp you're too way behind. Try again next season
How long will this season lasts?
If I manage to max out my Eldridge retrofit & Lion, is it enough to reach Admiral rank?
a single season lasts for 14 days. Today's the 8th day, season will reset next Monday.
your score is probably too low to get you to Admiral. you can use the remaining days to test/max your fleet out and use all your 15 exercise tickets per day.
Okay. Let's see where I land in the rankings. Thanks for the info
Does Lex run HVARs for PvP because of destroyer meta?
yes, the pinned PvP guide highlighted it as recommended with notes related to favouring rockets.
I know yoshino and kotori skin is buffed
but Kotori OG skin is already best skin,
If they somehow keeping her celestia ribbon i might would have vote it higher
-# and Yoshino is very strong in PVP (change my mind?)
This feels like that one guy who keeps on promoting bataan

For VG setup. I seen Eldridge wants offtank but between JintM and Laff2 who takes main tank slot?
My phone hates google sheets so cant look at the pinned doc atm
jimmothy, laffey, eld
from left to right
All in for torp auxs on Jint right?
rainbow dildo and black dildo
itll be a bit rough without +13 but youll be fine (i think)
the point of laffey is to survive as long as possible, which putting her as tank kinda kills that
theres a pvp server if you want more help 
If ive managed fleet admiral last 6 seasons running Agir Shima Eld I think I can make it work lol still tea torps or iris ones to nuke vg?
mog
Yeah definitely gonna need that
theres a split between people liking tea or antilight torps
i havent done enough testing to make conclusions
Ill probably try both and see what works till I get Yuki. My backline is fried tho
what is it
Right now triple BB, sey NJ WarKai praying for that Lion snipe early. Working on bulins for Lex2 and raising Kotori
dear god
Honestly its worked way better than expected with my horrendous vg setup. Only ever have issues with the top end meta setups
id assume so yeawh
If I can get early lion snipe with NJ and win the eld proc I can win somehow
Na the NJ early shot bout half way before she fully fires. Shima usally lands a couple torps and +13 meck gun usally one taps
Literally just missing Lion... I was just a couple weeks short of getting her when I started
Honestly with Kotori and Lex2 who would be best 3rd to slot in? Now that I got a proper VG
who do you have
At 60% collection with all perm URs and all event ships since the ryza collab. I can drop full dock if you want
sure
Ill be swapping Sey out for Kotori once shes 125 right? And dropping warkai for Lex2?
What's the best gear for LexII and kotori pvp?
What is the meaning of both sides?
both sides
aka i think 15% less damage dealt by both fleets
Me and my enemy?
Yes
Finally got to go over the sheet and looked at what gear is reccd and what i have/can make soon. Any major changes? i have one rat gun and one ply gun not sure who to throw it on. Ill be swapping WarKai for Lex2 later when i get more bulins
with your current setup
Warspite is ok, maybe MK4 if Kotori takes Twin 457
Kotori might need MK4 or Twin 457, not FDG gun.
Flagship must use WNT.
Triple BB is weird without Lion nowadays, put Musashi Mid, Kotori Top, Warspite Bottom. depends on the lineup of the enemy. +13 on Main Guns is also a huge boost in damage.
Not having lion has me kinda fried so trying to work with what i can lol. Ill be dropping warkai for lex2 when next month hits and i can buy last bulin for lex. Currently dont have a mk4 and that would eat my ords needed for 3rd twin137.
Which aux should i drop on sashi then for WNT? badge?
yeah badge, and put badge to Kotori.
VG look fine tho? i can throw my single ply on Jint
put plygun on flagship Main Fleet if you have
Sashi it is then
Musashi barrage scales on FP
Looks like im ever so slightly less cooked now once i finish leveling laff and kotori
Without Yuki?
Gonna grab her next time shes in medal shop for me
Didn't pull on the collab banner so I guess I'm just not pvping until that cancerous Kotori chick is muscled out of the meta one way or another nice one Manjuu
Guess the best I can do is just drop Kotori for Seydlitz, what a let down
you can expect a 60% wr against kotori fleets w/ seydlitz
Not the end of the world. Just means you'll reset more
Yeah that's fair
this is such a skill issued reason tbh, unless you went 400 cubes in the collab you got no reason to comply, if you don't get the meta pvp shipgirl as in the case of an UR you still need to wait 2years for their rerun or 3years for the ship to become permapool, in 2y basically every ship goes out of meta in pvp, previous exceptions like laffei 2, or jinsu meta and probably eldkai
the only thing complainable about collabs are special gears in case you missed important ones since they could last for a very long time like the goldburn
so really its just as if you missed a ur really
i would be more concerned about useful gears
Bruhhh :v
Ppl like me who only farming merits without need to be the most stronger or top player AOTN ranking had to deal with those commoner piece of shit who take longer to be dealing then meet other player who give easy defender to be farmed and whatever they put on their defender (for ppl who use commoner meta) i still can beat them so what is the point to be put it on first place? To make other ppl like me who only need farming merits take much time to be dealed? Even at the end that prideful formation can be beaten and some ppl like me who not have much time to play azurlane will take more time only for dealing with them (if) their refresh oppponent was already used
Bruhhh :v
Ppl like me who only farming merits without need to be the most stronger or top player AOTN ranking had to deal with those commoner piece of shit who take longer to be dealing then meet other player who give easy defender to be farmed and whatever they put on their defender (for ppl who use commoner meta) i still can beat them so what is the point to be put it on first place? To make other ppl like me who only need farming merits take much time to be dealed? Even at the end that prideful formation can be beaten and some ppl like me who not have much time to play azurlane will take more time only for dealing with them (if) their refresh oppponent was already used
why you copy me

he think you funny then want to act like you
Copy cat
:keke:
Very cute
Now you two kiss
Are CVs back yet?
im enjoying pvp cuz of kotori
banger of a skin.

You can go further with banging in the visual novel
As much as I hate to say this, yeah you get more in the Visual Novels of Date A Live
Ren Dystopia, Rio Reincarnation, and etc...
Very cute
Hanzkanzlen cooks
Is this channel friendly to commoners?
I'd say so, you pretty quickly catch up to the inside jokes
What jokes
Mostly Serenity
Serenity is serious buisness?
Some would definitely say that
I know it to be
@vale minnow your cooking for my fleet rework worked out
So I've botched this PVP season. I took a loss on top of over-capping 5 exercises (busy day). I've probably obtained the highest rank in my position (Rear or Vice Admiral). Is there merit to saving 5 excercises to have a total of 10 after the reason resets?
Does that help me maximize the total number of points I'd be able to earn in a season?
On average yes
For example, I sandbag, aka holding onto 10 at a time and going 5/10 before each reset
I almost always hit admiral of the navy rank at 5-6/10
compared to other people needing to to 0/10
Cool. thanks.
Season reset always set your exercise to 5 regardless of how many exercise you save before reset
Oh wut...dang.
Always do the rushing strats before season reset
Tittie lover cooks
Serenity gets distracted from the enemy team laffey skin and loses fights
I think that goes to Kotori Skin 
Despite his taste being shit, they are too big for him
(and I am inclined to agree with that skin in particular)
Please enjoy kotori OG bathrobe 
The one Kotori swimsuit skin is probably happen after her marriage
-# or probably it could consider as her oath skin. Same as how i buy Yoshino skin for the same reason, it use for honeymoon 
Btw
Is ppl nowadays still use juneau kai in pvp?

i was 69 days old in Az to see how Kotori change from cutie little sis 2013 in visual novel
To a biggyches
in 2025
All it take is twelve years for boobs to grow
Here's something I don't understand about PvP. So I'm 25 points behind first place. But I've won every match so far and it's still early in the season. How am I so far behind? Are they just maximizing points by winning the hardests fights offered to them? I'm not quite at that stage. Sometimes I have to pick opponents below my rank, so I know I'm losing points there.
Sandbag
Not only are they maximizing points by winning the hardest fight available, they're also waiting for those people to spend their exercise attempts first (i.e. sandbagging) in order to maximise the amount of bonus points they get per battle.
Okay, so I should be sandbagging then?
Like wait until I have 10 attempts, and use 5 of themthem as close to the refresh as possible?
I prefer this
it won't change me
If only this one is at her skin line
yet again
this needs to be Natsumi present in the Collab

welcome to pvp
are you willing to PvP at 2 AM in the morning
or are you employed

Lol she went from Kotori lilsis to "Kotone" bigsis
What hull would she be then? Same as Yoshino?
Or Munition 
tbh i love the idea cuz since she had magic to turn big to small and viceversa
I would love to wait for Lil-Tohka, Lil-Origami, Lil-Yamai etc etc
I am fortunate to live on the West Coast. Reset is 11 PM or 12 AM for me.
Juneau has been dropped for a while, juneau especially loses her spot now that the meta is all about stalling.

She can't be munition since she is a Trickster and a support, I could literally say a Destroyer, and she does good dmg but not top dmg
I know this bcs I play Spirit Pledge / Echo
This is #off-topic at this point 
as if this channel isnt off topic most of the time anyways

I thought this is a pee v pee channel

Any recommendations for improving my PvP fleet? Right now I run a modified version of my OpSi boss fleet because it's sort of "Best ships I own".
Main: Bisz (top), Lion (Mid), Perseus (Bottom)
Vanguard: Anchorage (Tank), Sandy (Mid), Eldridge (Off Tank)
For reference, you should be able to see my collection here #1448015331489611876 message. The only significant change is I have Ägir at 120 now.
Oh yeah, I have Glorious Meta at 120, but I don't have the impotant PvP skill leveled yet.
Easiest answer is to check the pins and follow the spreadsheet
That will show you what the best teams and their equips are
Thanks. I did take a look, but I don't really have the ships for any of the pinned comps. So I'm trying to figure out what I can do until I can level the ships in the pinned spreadsheet.
I can probably do Kotori, GloriousM, and Lion in a month or so.
That's the idea, grind up the meta ships so you can push
You should have Laffey II now
For the record, Agir is dogshit in pvp
I do, but Laffey II might be a bit farther off as she's not in my farming rotation yet.
Laffey II is usable atleast Lvl 70 MLB focusing on Blue Skill>Red>Yellow. In PvP context, she can replace your Sandy just by existing
Cool. I’ll have to take a look at my bulin reserves.
The man that wont stop crying
if I dont have ykkz and kotori raised do I use seydlitz and jintsuu for now?
other 4 are lion lexy laffii eldridge
I have a question, if eldridge is using prowler, can she still proc operation rainbow during prowler invuln? If no, then is using tulips more consistent?
No, she can't proc OR+ during invul, it just delays OR+ proc by a bit if prowler activates.
Indeed, Bouquet of Tulips is a great alternative with longer %DR duration.
dorm hearts are literally worthless it's always thru secretary bonus affin events
someway of the other they got to 100 affinity at lvl 1, so unless they play island planner
If that's Odin, it's her skill. Puts her in front of the Flagship.
OIC that was probably it
Aside from Eldridge, what are Meta vanguards for PVP?
LaffeyII
The third has some options (you can check it on the sheet pinned to this channel)
Is Trafalgar relevant
Or Anchorage/Unzen
Trafalgar and Unzen isn't pvp relevant, Anchorage is worse than the usual choices for third spot but still relatively usable. Check the pinned sheet
right
Though her debuff looks good, she's too squishy for nowadays PvP that requires strong and sustain vanguard
At this time the only way is sign up as Azurlane dev and design her 
After reading 📌 I cant tell when would retro item of eldridge comeback
Speculation around2026 anni?
For EN anni, yeah probably
Eldridge Retro in shop, Essesx rerun? Something like that?
Probably, I don't remember when exactly Manjuu added Yuudachi's retro item to the shop
Think about it like 2022-2023 smth
Danilkon cooks
My PVP fleet
Unicorn is very cute
Man, Laffey II is truly a nuclear weapon
I mean, she's just lvl 113 but she still managed to beat the stronger enemy up.
She is
i noticed the pvp in Azurlane are called as Exercise
do people Exercise in real life when they are doing Exercise in az?
We do exercise and pvp irl too
Wr push our body to the limit
Imagine if they tied Eldridge RNG to how fast you can run irl
Dang it, I think I overcapped again. 😩
Is Alsace good in PvP? I use it just for story and siren
She's quite good
Good, but the current comps prefer seyd and kotori; Seyd is permanently available
Think before you posted shit like this
This is pvp channel
Bring you kid to work day!
Child abuse
@brazen socket So, has bro outted himself for being inappropriate and off topic?
My Laffey II now is becoming a walking Hydrogen bomb
If I oathed her, I'd name her "My little asteroid destroyer"
Bring Lil Kashino to work day
nebraska cooks
If you call out enough times, eventually you'll get it right
hello if I don't have the Hellcat Hvar, what's the next best fighter option?
And speaking of Hvar, is there an easier way to get blueprints from the War Archives? I've tried over 60 times and only got 10 blueprints.

did you use the 2x thingies
First yes, then no, mb is bad luck
always use 2x things
Pretend you don't want it and the game will give you
Use high efficiency
First time touch this rank🥹
Greetings, what are the best characters and equipment for current PvP?
Does that equipment really work? I've used it but it doesn't hit anyone.
They work great on JintsuM with black torp aux
Juwumy cooks
Id win! (I have a score of 51 😄 )
Keep it up bro
Very cute
Who is she
Is she good at pvp
Very cute
cute = goated pvp meta ship? noted 
Kashino is cute
Kashino is massive
imagine if pvp was won by cup size
We aren't far from that reality
Lex is tier 0 and they gave her a big old buff...
Wut buff was it
Lex I got her personality buffed and now Lex II is THE meta pvp cv ship
Feels like this is gonna be pepega
whats the lex buff
Her cup size. xD
Floof Meta.
Jintsuu meta good
I changed my secretary to a pre 2025 ship and noticed my wr% go up
Give it a try
(this is for mirror matches btw)
I married to Kashino and haven’t lost a match since
She's a pre 2025 ship, that's why

They can buff a chest of a collab skin but they cant dare to add a collab ship to valentine selection is also Diabolical 

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Hmmmm, I notice that there is now a bug in PvP. Your ships can die to fire damage, whereas enemy ships cannot
Lex 2 randomly dying to fire damage is not a thing
Yet it happens

It's as I said, your ships can die to fire damage, whereas enemy ships cannot
I'm not sure if this is an exclusive lex 2 bug or not
In PvP, as you probably already know, ships can't die to fire damage (they always take damage, reducing them to 1 hp, live and take '0' damage for the remainder of the burn duration)
But this isn't the case with lex 2. She dies to fire damage (only your lex 2 does, enemy lex 2 does NOT)
Lex2 obv grass type
something something integers as hp values, I suppose
I'm currently running this CN fleet and there's a note for a specific frontliner bote to use +10 gear aux instead of max enhance
because using the max enhance aux makes the ship susceptible to damage from Lion burn
Matters with survivability more
Nice back definition, love the buttcrack
Keep up the good work queen

who was to be the flag? kotori or lexington?
Sexington top, Kotori flag.
thanks, i did things propely then
And I thought I was doing bad. Washi has fallen 
Turns out you can sink lower than the bottom
Get to bedrock and find out minecraft lied; you can dig further down
I think this is caused by Yoshino
Could also be Origami
The barrages pulls in ships like a black hole, we have this before
But this one is bugged and can pull stationary ships on the backline
New pvp tech
wasn't there a time when the pins had the pvp refreshes timetable?
regardless i know what they are
question, i noticed my lexi firing her planes basically 90% of times after the opponent vanguard is dead or its in an invulnerable state, so why are light armor planes recommended for her?
becuase you are lucky with rng and the opponent's vanguard dies fast
because 99% of players don't put up real defense fleets
Use pancake, tenrai and wyverns if rockets don't work for you
idk, i feel like the light break strat is more something to use in defense
for offense it seems better to focus on heavy/med damage since i can control wich vanguard lives by refreshing
lol
Tenrai tech 
that way you don't just hit laffey's summons, you hit her AND her summons 
Oh and that plane loadout has much better AA so you will take less crash damage from enemy CVs
guess moskva is not good for pvp?
she's T0
idk if i should trust someone recommending asw planes
Moskva is T0
I confirmed
better than yukikaze?
If you don't trust the pvp spreadsheet, why would you trust one of the writers?
Trust in Kashino
on offense you shouldn't even use lex2, she's slow and lumbering like formi and doesn't even do damage or freeze enemy
use 3bb instead

They didnt trust serenity moses until he wrote the commandments on a stone tablet 😔
wdym serenity wrote the sheet
it's just like in 1984 how the opposition was controlled by Big Brother all along

woah spoilers I just started reading that..
I recommend to quit pvp before it's too late
Smartest thing Serenity said since 1986
He then proceeded to say Zwei is outdated in our guild chat 
Is it worth crafting rainbow quints for Yuki or is 550s enough?
dont do rainbow quints
i choose to read lol
idk then lol
Its got 550s in the pics but description says rainbows lol i got both
ideally yuki wants torps that will hit the most amount of enemies to take full advantage of her flood damage
just use the HE torps
descriptions on the sheet are often outdated, especially for older ships
you can still see mention of like previous metas in them lol
iris torps it is then. Im missing lion but got kotori and lex2, who would be best 3rd?
Missing Lion is enough to put a gap
missing lion = not winning vs good lion comp unless good rng
Multiple responses and not a single one is answered his question 
i don't think kotori lexi works with no lion? isn't the point of the comp to stall amd let lion do the fire barrage damage?
Exactly, All is stall except Lion, who can risk being the fodder at Bottom pos just because of her "Burn that isn't coded like a burn".
Using Alsace or Musashi in that Position is Cope within the Kotori-Lex 2 comp
Lion really just has her own Tier
Its still possible to beat the other teams with the current meta fleet, your problem really is just Lion since it just Gaps the competition.
BB Fleets with Lion can do some damage well to the Current META fleet even if it doesn't one shot....
amd i guess the teams in testing are the kotori/lex 2,nakimov,lion ; moskov,eldkai,laffeii
and lex2,kotori,lion; moskov,eldkai and laffeii?
whats moskva supposed to do
CN tested her and it was pathetic
and if you read her skills, it makes sense. CA with no real defenses besides a conditional percent damage reduction trigger AND absorbs damage from backline i.e. she can get burned by Lion multiple times.
so basically when eldy invuln isn't up, she's helpless
but it's way funnier if everyone thinks she's going to be T0 anyway

kashino sweeps
how good is moskva in PvP
Probably not that good
Probably that good
Probably somewhere in between not that good and that good
PVP adventures
I’m surprised their name isn’t A Bruhastic Bin or something similar
why not Bruhou
*bruhoe

Pretty cope
I guess I try. She already 120 and have no use in dock

i am allowed to chat here finally

Ognevoy and flandre is making me unwise
the flatter the chest the closer you are to her heart
Keep yourself safe
Hi chat can someone give me a gear for pvp Nachimov
Take a look at pinned document, but if you lazy:
HVARCat-Spearfish-Spearfish
Auxiliary: AvGas- Fairy Magic / Angel's Feather
My journey ends here
You guys have a courtesy of where you stop grinding exercise after reaching AoTN and let the othe players pass you?
Some people stop caring after aotn
some continue because of more merit points
degenerates take pvp seriously until the last minute

Add Gems at AOTN or top 10 then most if not the whole playerbase actually does PVP


Do the rushing strats
Personally I recommend the giving up strats or the retiring strats
you don't know the number of times I forgot to do exercise before the +5 attempts
I was doing so good but then forgot on Thursday about a set of 5.
Though I've also missed 10 before and still hit AotN so I'm still going.
I never thought of this. Huh.
Yeah, this run doesn't look like it's gonna be an AotN for me. The gap isn't closing.
This is quite common if you want the achievement for reaching AOTN, then just use your extra moves while you are still on rank 1 for those merits without having the care to maintain that rank
You can miss 15 matches in a season and still hit aotn if you are desperate enough
Possibly more
Can confirm this. I was able to hit AotN by hard rushing about a day or so after AotN becomes available
By hard rushing, I mean immediately post daily reset (or exercise reset), hard rush all 10 attempts to get just barely enough to squeeze into top 10
issue is if you remember to attak only 5/14 days
I have laffey 2 and eldridge rétro is this super op ?
Meta units
Just add in yukikaze
Or lyme
For vanguard
Backline is lion bot seydlitz/kotori mid lex ii top
Actually just go check pinned link
bis2 and uvh are among the worst URs you could have picked for pvp
wasn't bis2 decent? like wasn't there at leadt a time where she was used?
decent for what
~~ just uses foxes ~~~~ foxes are love foxes are life ~~
No. Only wehraboos shilled bis2
she was decent at losing
briefly used in a gimmick fleet on defense and that was it. On attack she was never good.
she was GREAT at losing
peter fucking strasser 
Is wichita meta the new meta frontliner over yuki? Ran into the t0 fleet but with wichita meta instead of yuki and it was kicking my shit in (even though i had oath advantage etc on all ships)
someone cooked and you're the victim
nah i just left the battle and refreshed for a easier opponent
What fleet did you use
they had the same fleet but swap yukikaze for wichita meta
they didnt even have any oaths either
no
i tried twice
i read wichita meta skills and i think its cus she gets 8 second invuln when she's supposed to die
and then she gets 20% heal
idk either way my vanguard got obliterated
Lost to the glass cannon 
hi, how cool are Movska + Nakhimov for pvp? Cheers
Hm... my guessing not worth. If moskwa dies nakhimov dies too. Almost no scenario when nakhimov dies first than vanguard
Big faty ship for Lion burn
no its shit
first Moskva is a CA, so it already hinders her survivability despite being tanky
Moskva is probably the best ship in pvp for throwing
Lion's burn DoT gets duplicated on her

forgot about that skill 
Spreading misinformation isn't cool
Moskva is just bad at pvp
What are you trying to gain by missleding people
Do better next time
Throwing means to lose.
Avg serenity moment
He does it for attention
It works
are you saying he's a master baiter?
I'd bite
Does Anyone have an image that shows the bonus point for pvp between attacker and defender's rank
do anyone want an PVP competition?
if that's even possible to begin with within one of the neglected modes of the game and also the modes that gets affected a lot by one miniscule change
irl pvp
Honestly idk if serenity is baiting or just bad at the game
Can't it be both?
so, how well does this line up hold up in PVP chat
Lion Hakuhou GloriMETA
Eldridge Retro Sandy Laffey2
uh Sandy for AA? Although I can switch to Unzen
Hakuhou... I dont know who else to put
most of hakuhou's buffs come from having other IJN ships, so putting her in solo is pointless
planes in pvp have an enormous HP buff which makes them practically impossible to shoot down
sandy has no real defenses beyond that
so she's a waste of a slot
do you have Jintsuu META, Lyme, or Yukikaze?
none, these are the highest level shipgirls I have to offer
how far do you intend to take pvp
which admiral? There are like 5 different admiral ranks
the most top admiral title
just one time and I will quit PVP after
you're on Amagi, so fleets will get a lot harder once you climb higher
I recommend farming Seydlitz from War Archives
that way you can assemble a semi-functional backline
Seydlitz Mid with WNT
GlorM top
Lion bottom
which camp of War Archives
for vg you can attempt to use Anchorage, Laffey II, Eldridge
but it's an uphill battle if you encounter enemy Yukis

is Trafalgar good since she buffs Lion
no because she has no real defenses
PvP is all about invuln stacking now
while still dealing enough damage to kill your opponent
isnt Plymouth better than Ancho
or am I missing something
I have Plymouth developed already, I just need to raise her for a while
Plymouth has no invulnerability
PvP is very different from PvE
but like, you can definitely make do with the ships you have
I thought GloriMETA and Lion would already be enough to yeet people
I guess I was wrong 
once you have a decent fleet, main difficulty will just be not overcapping
you get 15 attempts per day, in 12, 6, and 6 hour intervals, each giving 5 ex
not 10
players can only hold 10, so it's very easy to just forget to do 5 and they disappear
Yuki, eldridge, laffey 2 is main meta vanguard

Another fallen user
wat happen
One must know that all actions have consequences
FAFO happened
<@&472236072743600148>
All actions have consequences
is kotori just a better syridiz?
yes
Some Campaign "meta" ships aren't going to be good in PVP right? I figured I could use ships in PvP that have some form of invincibility
Rn I have JuneauRetro, EldridgeRetro, and Jintsuu meta for my vanguard but I'm not sure what to put on main fleet
so when did 3 bb drop out of meta for pvp?
Probably when Glorious Meta descended upon pvp?
Lion, basically
Lion and GlorM dropped on the same event
You only need one Lion shelling and (two!) GlorM airstrike launch/es to delete everyone who isn't invulnerable
There were also reports that solo Lion can defeat the pre-Lion T0 fleets. I guess that's why GoT (Musashi Alsace Soyuz) took a MASSIVE nosedive from T0 to T3 in the days that followed
Summer 2025
Oh I just changed Alsace to lion lol
Warspoot with Augment and Royal Oak was used only for a month before Invul backline now was a thing
I think
Is Dead Master and Hiryuu still viable? even with Lex 2 on the fleet?
Seydlitz still usable, just a slightly worse Kotori?
Vanguard tho has some mixes
Especially Lyme
which needs her Augment that bad to remove her 3 sec evade limitation that needs another Tempesta Ship to be with
Seydlitz is still usable, kotori is just a good bit tougher and more powerful
Lex2 probably solo beats Hiryuu + Dead Master just on invuln gates tbh, especially since Lion will cripple whichever carrier isn't in top slot
<@&472236072743600148> pvp this guy
sf_2031#0 got kicked. Reason: Compromised account.

Um, should I use Kegel or KLAN fleet? Is both GlorM and Nakhi have their own pros and cons or one of them is better?
(Assuming you don't have lex2 as she beats both)
Glorm has better spike damage with her doublestrike, nakhimov has better survivability with way more ehp and one restealth
I see, thank you
What's that main gun used for monarch? Wouldn't it be better to use the twin rainbow USS gun?
Twin 457mm is the name I believe
what's your Main Fleet looking like? it depends, you need to stagger BB salvo for multiple BB
Oh
Full HMS with Howe and Duke York
Actually idk... Monarch is using the limited Russian gun from an event and the sequence goes like Duke>Monarch>Howe
I see, she goes later in most case, use the USS twin 157.
use a faster gun on the other two like MK4s
this the new pvp tank queen?
for a Vanguard focused survivability, yes.
still a 3rd ship alongside with LaffeyII and Eldridge
since i have yukikaze, i probably shouldn't bother then? since i gotta bother leveling her up and raising affection?
yeah, up to you. she's pretty much even with Yukikaze at this state.
if you want variety, she's a good pick
does one over the other perform better for defense vs offense?
like defense fleet in pvp
not really, will depend on your Eldridge invul proc.
why not? al endgame is pretty much raising any and every ship in dock. you should try and play with her at least once
she's on par with yukikaze for a reason. Multiple, even
cuz sail ship meh. sure, i'll EVENTUALLY, get to her. but there are other ships i've yet to touch... ugh. will throw her in a secretary slot, that way maybe i'll bump her up in my imaginary list of what i want to raise next 
you'd be surprised. She's easily one of the tankiest vgs in the game despite being an IX
oh. also Enhancing for fp & reload. i'll dump my commons in there to raise that up
last october. Tempesta events are always october.
you're meh
so judgmental

ShadyMatty cocks
i'm meh? your face is meh 
mmm if I share a thread here will it be accessible? I wanted to know what PVP team can I make with those ships. Should I get Seydlitz and pair her with Nakhimov and Lexii or something else? Lion is not an option xD
https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1493605336421240832
Nice I see it works 
No lion = Dead pvp fleet
No Kotori? She's an improvement over Seydlitz
If it isn't there then I don't have her :S
It's not like I don't have some margin to improve and get more points for the shop than what I'm getting now... right?
I still see Lionless fleets that beat my ass so...
Ah shoot, yeah I can see it's from the same event I had Kurumi and the others... sadly I wasn't able to secure Kotori since I was very low on pulls :S
with what you've got, best bet might be something like:
lex2, soyuz, monarch (?)
anchorage, laffey2, maybe kurumi
jintsuu meta is still good and is available in meta dossier (would take kurumi's slot)
seydlitz (get her then) - lex2 - soyuz - jintM - laff2 - juneau kai
check pvp sheet in pins for deets
Nice, thank you both! I saw that every single pvp rec. was Lion so I had to ask haha
Ah you might mean the Newbie/Budget part of the guide. Yeah, true true
it's going to be hard for lion-less players... but dw there's going to be the silver lining of knowledge
It's good, I'm content if I can get more merits for the time being. When Lion reruns or some counter emerges I will shoot for the absolute win haha
there's a bit more than 1 year for the lion rerun, roughly speaking
but for sure, there's going to be some meta shift here and there before then
He's just parading his waifus
@lusty hill keep yourself safe 
Serenity is not beating the lolicon allegations
not a day goes by without loliconic behaviour in azur lane pvp
keep yourself safe
Never will, he even accuses himself of it
Knows that all actions have consequences
The dildo of consequence rarely arrives lubed
X_x

@shell raft thanks for moving, now lets talk about disarming your cock

Alright, why not. Laffey is now gear-less; that should suffice. Give the game time for it to apply
Actually, I'll just remove Lion and Laffey from the fleet, so that the changes are visible for you. That should be enough because I cbb replacing the whole fleet


G A B cock
Neromel cock
This good for Spite? rainbow tables tied up on other ships atm and kotori is using 457
Btw, just in case, you know gold shell only works on her shelling damage? Her barrage don't benefit from it outside of the FP boost
Would whie be better for her in this case then?
Both shells do the same thing, white will offer marginally better FP. Better off giving her WNT or something similar
whats the strongest "strongest" fleet for pvp nowadays stopped updating at around when jintsu meta became meta for pvp vanguard
Check the pinned document
Clanker 🥀
shiburin cock


Have you disarm your cock?
just lost to shiburin 
shiburin alwasy serve the best cock in pvp
it feels unfair
no other player have cock like shiburin

Its a Terrible day to have eyes
Can always call a mod if you think he's taken it too far
the secret is to have freetime when there is tiket refreshes
If you’re far enough, you can be #1
Just got cocked by shiburin again

Is it time for me to quit pvp?
:updog: for yes
:ca: for no
Who is that shiburin
i dont recornise any of these main fleets anymore ;_;
vanguard meta not changed at all tho lol
missed the lex II event 
Avrora PvPer, his fleet good, but nothing as dramatic
The best pvp player than ever existed
Who's unultra
<@&472236072743600148>
PvP adventures:
Pvp mains aren't beating the allegations
Keep yourself safe
does pvp get you girls
Nah
it nets you dudes
Again 
Yes

so thats the cock he means
PvP adventures
Jimmy deez nuts
holy shit is that juwumy
Finally
<@&472236072743600148> ban this filth

Congrats 
Ranchchamp

How you play pvp top 1?
How you sandbag PvP?
I don't know but i have balance ships
Rebalance the ladder
how to Rebalance the ladder
:god:
Aoste grabs his first win in quite literally a century
I was still in middle school when Aoste last won
👵
They say as long as you keep going nothing is impossible
:ranchSexHodo:
Patonix cocks
Kis named I will overcap
aura lvl: maximumer
My gears
your gear is already perfect
could be the pvp cheaters ruining your game
you take a bag and go to a beach, then till 10 minutes before pvp tiket recharge you stuff sand into your bag; by that point you do 5 attaks and then reiterate
you take your bag and dangle it in front your opponents to make them do your bidding
why no elite damage control on either laff or eld?
How do i kill the cocroach known laf 2
Kashino
Show your fleet
Alasace bis2 mekrel laf2 z52 unzen
no lion?
every times i see Littles fleet
Is that shiburin the king of pvp?
@stable dawn Someone's obsessed with you
who are you people
what do I have to do to have a fraction of your power king
it shall be done 
Can I ask politely, without a Laffey 2, who can be considered an "alternative"
I only play for merits, but there are times that I get to a full lobby of Meta fleets with no refresh moves left
and I do kinda hate the time where I have to wait till reset for that to happen
there's a certain section of the pvp sheet that deals with this predicament. New Player's guide
good practice to read pins
Fortunately I do read the Pinned Sheet link, unfortunately I don't see any replacement for Laffey 2
Since I know Z52 and Kurumi Tokisaki melts like butter
So is it time to cope on Yuki - Anchorage - Eld?
or
Anchorage - Mintsuu - Eld?
You're pretty much in cope territory
You could always follow the JP and CN meta and use jintm, shima and Eld

@shell raft disarm your cock
Who do I put as tank, Laffey 2 Yukikaze or Eldridge?
Laffey II goes in the middle. Maybe one of the veteran players can weigh in on how important it may be for Yuki or Eldy to be Tank vs Off Tank.
tysm
Yukikaze is mostly used as tank, give her 2x HP aux.
@stable dawn

PvP adventures
Is the director's screenplay less good than other auxiliaries?
it is worse than giant onigiri if you are using Kotori
but overall is a good alternative if you lack it
the food item has a small heal for her after all
it also heals the wearer so i would also favor the onigiri even in Kotoriless fleets
since it has a small speed advantage
pvp is simpler than you think
just don't play it 
You shouldn't be giving bad advice
Keep yourself safe
found this dude too

Shut down this game mode
the p in pvp stands for pedophile
Hi Pot, meet kettle
PvP adventures
keep yourself safe
PvP adventures
ded channel, ded gaemmode

Mod
@sudden flume Let's refrain from images of that kind.
was that a skin?
Nah. dodgy names on the ships.
isnt thats what al is about?


















