pvp

[neon bronze]

[fickle echo]

[iron lake]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[neon bronze]

shoot, i forget stuff sometimes

[sand apex]

Cube farm? How

[junior beacon]

You don't farm anything you just get passive currency from commissions that can be exchanged for a finite amount of cubes

[sand apex]

Oh, nice

[sour pawn]

Didn’t sandbag at all, just using a torp meme fleet whenever I had exercises, number 1 is 2236 points. Probs not gonna be able to hit AotN right?

[lusty hill]

Try sandbag next time

[winged depot]

what server

[lusty hill]

You can consistently get aotn if you don't lose too much

[sour pawn]

I mean I haven’t lost a single exercise. Just been doing all 10 in 1 go as a returning player. I remember going for it once and being too much effort checking every 15m to see if someone did their exercises

[sour pawn]

Sandy I believe

[winged depot]

looks impossible I think but Idk sandy overall scores per set

[stable dawn]

probably missed 2 full sets

rip

also triple akagi oath but not all 125? SMH

[torpid shuttle]

missing exercises is such a pain have to sandbag to get aotn

[stable dawn]

you can miss up to 12 early season or so, or 5 late season and get it pretty comfortably

[sour pawn]

Oh apparently I did do it like 2 years ago before I stopped playing

[sour pawn]

And I haven’t had a reason to level up small Akagi so she’s just kinda stuck there, I think she has exp for 118 atm

[stable dawn]

[sour pawn]

I do find it funny that you can still get away with torp meme+pre load against these new meta fleets though

[stable dawn]

if they're under 18k FP on backline it means they probably have no equips on

[sour pawn]

Really? Full equipped with almost full +13 I’m way under that

[winged depot]

needs more power

[neon bronze]

Show gears

[stable dawn]

UR ships add a ton of FP even with no equips. The current meta is usually a full UR backline (triple BB or MSN)

[sour pawn]

Yeah it’s always the same fleets I see, I do have 1 UR at least, I think my VG is a bit higher though with all the rainbow aux. And does everyone just go same fleet because attackers have an advantage so basically guaranteed a win in the mirror?

[stable dawn]

also a lot of times fleets are partially unequipped due to pve

like I move my beaver badge from NJ to Agir for bossing etc

[sour pawn]

And here I am just with my meme fleet for defence. But hey at least people don’t run the mafia fleets anymore, the only thing I can’t beat is that

[stable dawn]

mafia is super easy though

especially now that augment slashes can destroy duca torps

[sour pawn]

Idk I’ve seen 2 since returning and they’ve been the only 2 fleets I’ve had to reroll to find another opp

I forgot augments where a thing, maybe I should make some

[stable dawn]

oh you don't use anchorage, I see

[hollow walrus]

Mafia is pretty easy

[stable dawn]

anchorage is literally the strongest pvp ship in the game ngl

[sour pawn]

Yeah I did try Ancho out but it kinda made my fleet fall apart because I lacked dmg

[stable dawn]

that's why you get a better backline

[sour pawn]

Even at FS5, the buff And dmg output Jintsuu was just better for the fleet I use

[stable dawn]

instead of relying on preload

[hollow walrus]

because you have all preload backline with percy and aquila

[stable dawn]

percy has double preload but 0 dps afterward

and is extremely squishy due to being a CVL

[hollow walrus]

only FdG has consistency there

[sour pawn]

Well yeah that’s why I run what I do. Just nuke enemy backline in first 10s of fight so no martyr or tears or any dmg from them, works like a charm

Ancho keeps Juneau alive which is good, unless they stick her in front slot and she gets 1 shot

[stable dawn]

what ships do you have? I feel like you can assemble a much better fleet than your current setup with the right loadout

[whole salmon]

What’s the point for top 10 currently?

[sour pawn]

More merit, bragging rights?

[whole salmon]

No not that

I phrased that wrong

[stable dawn]

he meant points required

[whole salmon]

I meant what is the points of the person at top 10 spot

[sour pawn]

I did say in the post

[stable dawn]

so he can compare against lexington

[sour pawn]

It was like 2236

Or something

[whole salmon]

That’s top 1

I meant top 10

[sour pawn]

10 is 2216

[whole salmon]

You can reach top 10

If you are fast enough

Tho that depends on what changes next set

If top 10’s score at the beginning of next set is below 2225 then you have a chance

If you go immediately after reset

But it still feels unlikely that you will make it

[sour pawn]

The last ones I missed are like epic rarity 120s

[stable dawn]

wtf you have NJ fully leveled

[sour pawn]

Yes I stopped after Shimikaze event

Then came back for Biszwei

[stable dawn]

you haven't missed out on much ngl

just some new gear

from lab

you can legit assemble a full meta fleet right now

[whole salmon]

It seems manageable

[hollow walrus]

Only thing he's missing would be Sushi but Shinano, FdG, NJ should be good no?

[whole salmon]

The only one you truly missed is Musashi

[stable dawn]

oh wait no Musashi

still, very good choices left

[sour pawn]

Musashi, UVH, implacable, all of PR5, Vangaurd, Kron. I feel like I’ve missed a lot

[stable dawn]

NJ - FdG - Aquila/Hiryuu/Shinano

[whole salmon]

It just implies that 2023 barely got any relevant pvp URs

[stable dawn]

excellent backline

last slot is personal preference

[whole salmon]

Pvp wise you basically didn’t miss anything except Musashi and Harbin

The rest can be ignored

[stable dawn]

vg you can just use classic stall comp

Ancho Shima Juneau

[whole salmon]

Or perhaps

September is coming

You might not even need Musashi

If Yamato releases

[stable dawn]

copium

we're going to get a sub

let's be real

[whole salmon]

I think it would be French instead

[hollow walrus]

yammy 1 year after Sushi is total

[stable dawn]

french sub?

[whole salmon]

But then the French doesn’t quite sell that well

[stable dawn]

[whole salmon]

And they want money

IJN brings in consistent money so they don’t want to miss out

[hollow walrus]

I feel like if they don't want to throw yammy out they still have the Number 13s as a paper IJN backline to throw as a UR

[whole salmon]

It could be a frontliner as well

[pseudo copper]

4th Yamato class this JP anni

100%

[whole salmon]

Or a CV

[pastel jolt]

just weeb lol

fdg is jus worse

[sour pawn]

I mean who doesn’t love kitsune mommys, I sure as hell love ‘em

[hollow walrus]

Only IJN frontliner they have now is Tone

[whole salmon]

They still have Akizuki but that’s copium

[hollow walrus]

and the only paper they can use is Azuma's sister

[stable dawn]

what colour would yamato even be?
Shinano is white
Musashi is black

[whole salmon]

There’s still Unryuu class

[stable dawn]

red? Yellow?

[whole salmon]

Or even more strange

CV Amagi 2

[stable dawn]

maybe green?

[hollow walrus]

That's backliner

[whole salmon]

[whole salmon]

White Red

The theory is that they represent the 3 Shinto God

[stable dawn]

white dress red hair

[hollow walrus]

yeah IJN is truly out of UR-worthy frontliners

[stable dawn]

[whole salmon]

Shinano as Tsukuyomi

Since she has moon designs on her

Musashi as Susanoo

[stable dawn]

ah so we finally get Amaterasu

[whole salmon]

And Yamato would be Amaterasu

[hollow walrus]

They still have the Unryuu's or whatever but frontliners I don't see a lot of UR capable ones for Anni

[stable dawn]

🌞

[whole salmon]

Truly the representative of the nation of rising sun

[hollow walrus]

so she's gonna marry Shinano

[whole salmon]

To have the sun god represent your biggest battleship

[stable dawn]

inb4 blonde with red dress

[whole salmon]

It could also be another Iowa class

But that’s also copium

[hollow walrus]

Idt she's gonna be blonde. But she probably will wear red

[whole salmon]

It could be Clemenceau

[stable dawn]

nah, USS event probs at end of year

[whole salmon]

There’s the French girl at anime expo

[hollow walrus]

Nah Soyuz is finally get released and replace Musashi

[stable dawn]

Soyuz

[whole salmon]

But it seems like IJN slot is too important to miss

IJN got the JP anniv slot for 3 years now

[sour pawn]

What about Nagato2?

[stable dawn]

still could be sub

never know

i-400

[hollow walrus]

NOOOO

Not them

[stable dawn]

thicc mommy sub

[hollow walrus]

nah watch her be an oppai loli

like the other SSV

[stable dawn]

[whole salmon]

I’m not used to the new shop UI

[hollow walrus]

Oh wait no I-19 isn't the SSV. It was I-13. So flat loli

[whole salmon]

This is 5 years of muscle memory coming back to bite me in the ass

[stable dawn]

real

[fickle echo]

https://youtu.be/fhBEf3jRcEw

Now I beat MSN with Wales

[stable dawn]

like on one hand, the new shop is objectively better designed

but on the other, RIP brain

[whole salmon]

Also I only just got Prinz Rupprecht and Chaklov the day before PR6 releases

I got enough print for them to Fate 5 but forgot to grind

[stable dawn]

holy slackfest

[whole salmon]

Just left them there to passive grind but then forgot

[stable dawn]

[whole salmon]

I got them both now, had to rush

I didn’t miss out on not having them tho

Consider it unintentional big brain play in saving dock space

[stable dawn]

throw so hard you end up winning

[cedar herald]

4 hours till reset... do u think its possible for me to get rank <10 ? even just touch it D;;;

[neon bronze]

Rush as soon as possible on the next reset

[sand apex]

Whats the best way to time top ten « pushes » for best chance at success? I just want the mailbox merit reward

[lusty hill]

consistent sandbag and try to not lose or overcap

[sand apex]

I pean do you push as soon as aotn becomes available? Wait until the last day?

[neon bronze]

Former: Most merit gain
Latter: High Seasonal score

Choose which you prefer

[lusty hill]

if you only want the merit and don't care about eos score then yes push as soon as it available

[sand apex]

Seasonal score doesnt matter for anything right?

Its just epeen?

[lusty hill]

it only matters if you want to screenshot it and show it to your friend lol

[neon bronze]

EoS score is just there. For competition's sake

[sand apex]

I just want to get into top ten once for mailbox rewards with highest chance to succeed

[lusty hill]

do this

you can still lose some match and get aotn

I once lose around 5 match and still get aotn before the season ends

[sand apex]

Yeah i lost one today :/

I tried fo force quit but i was too slow

[neon bronze]

People learn

[hollow walrus]

at least you didn't overcap 2 straight days

[sand apex]

Whats overcap mean

Oh when u forget to play

Yeah i see how thats bad lol

[warm crow]

For highest chance to succeed you just calculate where your score ends up in when you rush.
Calculate at what attempt you're going to be at a high enough rank that you will get a +9 instead of +10, then account for that. e.g. at 4/10 you will be at rank 30 then assume that you will get 4 +9s and if that is still enough for aotn at that set

[sand apex]

Hiw do i know how many pts rank ten has

[warm crow]

Check the leaderboard

[sand apex]

Oh lol

But wont the leaderboard move while i hit?

Or the client doesnt take that into acct

[warm crow]

It does. If you need to 0/10 and barely reach rank 10 then rush as late as possible so next set you can get aotn within a minute or so

[fickle echo]

Since you play on LE you'll be fine as long you get to 5/10 around 1h-30min before the reset, then during the last reset on Friday you should be able to easily get Admiral of the Navy when you go to 0/10 even if you lose some exercises along the way

[sand apex]

You just need to hit the rank one time right?

For the mailbox rewards

[fickle echo]

Yes, are you close to getting it this season?

[sand apex]

I tried to get it just like an hour ago and got stufk at 14 because i lost but im at 0 now lol

[fickle echo]

You should be able to get it tomorrow if you do the same thing at the start of the last reset

[sand apex]

Maybe people stop caring once they get it once

Im like 20 pts away now so if i can win 5 matches fast enough might even work now

[fickle echo]

Try to get to 0/10 30min before the reset starts, that way you're less likely to be forced to force hard fleets since those people do their exercises late, once you get more 5 fights try to do them right away and fight the highest rank opponent you're able to defeat

Most people will try to get Admiral of the Navy today so as long you don't have a problem with forgetting about PvP, trying it tomorrow would be easier

[sand apex]

😅

[fickle echo]

You're 13 points far from top 10 right now so you might be able to get it once you get 5 more fights

Just save your refreshes for the last exercises in case you roll only people who are too many ranks below you or only hard fleets

[sand apex]

Whats too many below

[fickle echo]

A -35 difference will give you a +9 and that's bad for the first exercise, for the rest you should avoid the -71 difference that'll give you a +8

[sand apex]

Rank or pt difference?

[fickle echo]

Point difference but I kinda messed up with it so lemme explain again

You'll get a +9 as long your opponent has less points than you

If they're at a -35 difference you'll get a +8, at +34 you'll still get a +9 though

[sand apex]

-35 points not ranks

[fickle echo]

Yes, ranks don't matter

You can a get +10 from fighting someone lower than you as long they have the exact same points

[sand apex]

Ok i see yeah its definitely going to be easiest to wait for the last day next time if most people go for it ezrly

[fickle echo]

Yes, if you wanna get it for sure try it again in 18h when most of the people will have already gotten it and then will either not bother getting top 10 or will rush right away and lose a lot of points

[sand apex]

Nice i got it easily

Just did 3 fast games

[fickle echo]

LE doesn't have many people trying so it's not hard as long you don't lose fights

[sand apex]

Now can relax 😂

I just want bullins lol

[cedar herald]

i rushed through and made it !, first time reaching top 10 and getting the last milestone rank

[fickle echo]

For the next season try to stay at 5/10 until the last reset on Friday and you shouldn't have problems

[winged depot]

grats

[whole salmon]

Now this is worthy of a pvp def fleet

[junior trench]

I mean, I for one would love to have a meta where we just fight each other with giant kaiju killing robots

[lusty hill]

Pro tip: scare the opponent with giant robot

[fickle echo]

Serenity wanting to bully newbies again smh

[lusty hill]

I use meme fleet for defense

I'm against bullying

[candid sluice]

but bullying is the best part of azur lane pvp

[junior trench]

Bully players with URs and monster riggings
Bully players with giant robots and Neptunia characters

[marsh sand]

Congratulations 🎉

[torpid shuttle]

do you guys only spam refresh game shortly after each reset?

[lusty hill]

I only refresh if the opponent have lower rank than me

or it's almost reset and the opponent is incredibly hard

[pseudo copper]

once every hour or 2

Oh wait refresh

Depends on when

[torpid shuttle]

no i meant reloading game, mb

[pseudo copper]

Then what I said at first

[lusty hill]

I do that every hour or 2

and repeadtly at the start of the season

[pseudo copper]

If first hour then I'd do 15m/30m after reset too and last hour I do 30m/15m before

[torpid shuttle]

in washington, it feels like no one is playing

[pseudo copper]

But atm I'm light bagging so I check only first hour and last hour

Washi is washed up for a reason

Only Borgar alive

[lusty hill]

I thought it was lexington that has no player

[torpid shuttle]

thought it was the most tryhard

[lusty hill]

avrora is the most tryhard

many newbie bullying

[pseudo copper]

Lexi has quite a few

[neon bronze]

lexington has a bit, uh around 10?

[pseudo copper]

Under 10 atm

Only above 10 when they don't overcap

[neon bronze]

how much on amagi

[pseudo copper]

Like 15 or smth

Atm Amagi most alive

[stable dawn]

very few people bother to do all exercises on Washy
a lot of people go 2/10 or 3/10 for aotn and then overcap the rest

[sturdy kraken]

managed to reach AOTN again

even while missing 5 exercises

[fickle echo]

Below Serenity

[neon bronze]

[trail temple]

Serenity is on top now?

[lusty hill]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

oh wait I thought he's the no 1

[delicate mango]

[honest moon]

Wdym sandy is always namba 1

[junior trench]

Sandy is the Numbah Wan plane killer

[valid oxide]

Not anymore

[junior trench]

Are you trying to to say Shimanto is better at it than her? Or are you referring to Juneau?

[valid oxide]

Shimanto

[lusty hill]

They should release san diego retrofit 2

[honest moon]

Pretty sure sandy base aa still namba wan

[valid oxide]

Sandy still the only CL who can get up to 900 AA stat before buffs iirc

Might have changed after 100kai released though

[junior trench]

I’m looking at the wiki, Sandy actually has over 100 AA stat more than Shimanto

Not including the fact that her one skill will increase that by 25%

[valid oxide]

And shimanto has 205% effi and a ghost gun

And a vanguard AA buff

[junior trench]

Ya I saw that. That does even it out.

[junior trench]

To be fair, so does Sandy

[valid oxide]

Oh and shimanto is tankier

[valid oxide]

Tied to a 15% chance

[junior trench]

I mean, I have no idea what Shimanto will be like in practice, I know she’ll be the same tier as Sandy, but if she’s a good bit noticeably better I’ll be surprised.

Especially considering Sandy was always considered Overkill anyway.

[valid oxide]

She is like scylla, a gold that is seen as better than sandy

Because sandy is old and expensive for what she is

[junior trench]

I do agree that if you have the choice on who to build from scratch nowadays, go for Shimanto or Cheshire if you want to kill planes. However, if you have a Sandy already retrofitted, I really don’t think Shimanto will be that much more broken. It’s like taking a rocket launcher and strapping a cannon onto it; it’ll definitely do more damage, but I’m not sure if it’s necessary.
My point is, Shimanto is good, and she’s better than Sandy in some aspects, but I really don’t think she’s a whole tier above her or something.

I do agree that Sandy needs some kind of buff though. She hasn’t fallen behind as bad as Warspite, but compared to modern SSR and UR cruisers, she’s having a hard time keeping up.

[delicate mango]

Just retire Sandy

[junior trench]

No, I spent a butt load of resources retrofitting her back when her retro first came out.

[honest moon]

No way
She namba wan meme

[candid sluice]

sunk cost fallacy

[junior trench]

Eh somewhat. It’s more so the fact that if you already have other top AA ships, a ship like Shimanto isn’t really going to be as needed for you as it would for the person who doesn’t have those top AA ships.

[candid sluice]

theres nothing else to do in this game other than develop better and better ships

people are gonna build her regardless if they have sandy or not

[junior trench]

I think you misunderstood my point. Even if someone has all the other top AA ships, of course they’ll eventually get Shimanto, but they’ll probably be more incentivized to get some of the other ships in PR6 first, since benefits they offer their account will probably be comparatively more so than another top AA ship.

[candid sluice]

sure but shell still be overshadowed

[junior trench]

Who, Sandy? I know, I agree.
I think you misunderstand my stance. Sandy is struggling to keep up, that’s a fact. If I had to start from scratch in this game and I needed an AA ship, you bet your bottom dollar I’m going for Juneau first for the budget option, and then going for Cheshire or Shimanto as soon as I’m able to. Objectively, they are the better options. However, I do not think this is an Anchorage or FdG situation where you want to try and build them ASAP because they offer tremendous benefits to your account. Shimanto is good to have and the better choice over Sandy, but IMO she is not so important or so much better to the point where she’s a must have ASAP, especially if you have other good AA options.

[neon bronze]

aa good

[whole salmon]

Use AA carries like Cheshire, Sandy and Shimanto to kill planes:

Slap UR AA on everything that has an AA slot, including your BBs and DDs:

[neon bronze]

[flint python]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1096617610298277949.webp?size=48&name=smart&quality=lossless

[delicate mango]

Just use triple cv with +13 wyverns and tenrai's

[valid oxide]

Just wait for a DB that can intercept for new CV meta (shimanto copium)

[candid yoke]

Coping for a special dauntless squadron that can intercept

[stable dawn]

I heard tenrai can intercept. Just ask @light crystal

[flint python]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/854385607425654784.webp?size=48&name=Kekwtf&quality=lossless

[candid yoke]

That moment when Tenrai can't intercept despite being an interceptor IRL

[lusty hill]

They will update it soon

[valid oxide]

Actually or is this some inside joke I'm not in on

[spare venture]

Will this be useful in PVP?

[neon bronze]

2600 this early lah, 22 mins b4 season reset

i'm trying to send a fucking image and it does not send

[junior trench]

Noice

[junior trench]

Does Harbin need Dev 30 to be usable in PvP?

[worldly wolf]

am running ancho ayanami juneau vg but seems to me like ayanami aint doing much can i swap her out for harbin? or is she cruicial as a shima substitute

[stable dawn]

yeah harbin is a good sub as well

[valid oxide]

I prefer Harbin > ayanami because Aya sorta just drops preload then dies, Harbin is more consistent and is more survivable

[junior trench]

Ehm

[honest moon]

Im sensing singlish in this statement.. do we have a fellow Singaporean shikikan

[valid oxide]

Yes, she needs d30

[junior trench]

Thanks

[torpid shuttle]

is uss black + oxytorp a +13able option compared to teatorp and blacktorp

[neon bronze]

no, 🇵🇭

i see "lah" as something silly

[empty mesa]

cge cge

[vocal stratus]

Hes not but i am!

[neon bronze]

kekw

[trail temple]

You can do it, but the magnetism on those torps aren't the best due to being too quick

[sturdy kraken]

serenity beat me again

[neon bronze]

[lusty hill]

I'm eating a lot of 100 merit this season 😋

[winged depot]

[neon bronze]

:based:

[trail temple]

Thanks for the +4

[lusty hill]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1093031710997893170.webp?size=48

[gusty cipher]

in the pinned doc are the green equipment equally good or the one on the left is better?

[scenic tendon]

read it carefully next time?

[gusty cipher]

not what i asked

@scenic tendon

[scenic tendon]

haha

[gusty cipher]

read it carefully next time?

[scenic tendon]

you decide

sure why not

nvm

jokes aside

[gusty cipher]

okay so it doesn't rly matter which green gear i pick they all equally good?

[scenic tendon]

it depends on what you are using with

[gusty cipher]

the most meta ships that there are

this

[scenic tendon]

nah

[gusty cipher]

alright

[scenic tendon]

the gears affect themselves too

[gusty cipher]

i was deciding between the UR AA or Bofors

[scenic tendon]

for example

[gusty cipher]

and feather vs Frontier medal

[scenic tendon]

in this case is somewhat hard to see the differences

[scenic tendon]

feather deals less damage but has extra eva stats

[steel coral]

generally the more important ones are at the front but idk if it's 100% like that

[gusty cipher]

yeah that was what i was wondering aswell

[scenic tendon]

frontier medal is just... worse time for BBs

[gusty cipher]

yeah that's why i picked feather the -10% seems shit

if 2/3 are bbs

[scenic tendon]

also

equipments can affect each others

like

mag torp + tea torp or oxy torp + new torp

[scenic tendon]

it actually isnt that bad

you can stall with it tho

[gusty cipher]

i use these

not fully dripped out yet

[scenic tendon]

tea torps aint gonna be optimal with oxy torp aux

fr

[gusty cipher]

so i should use mag or the other thingy?

the one that looks like pocket knife

[scenic tendon]

do you have mag aux?

on that shimakaze?

[gusty cipher]

mag aux was?

UR magnetic torps?

[scenic tendon]

no

its an auxiliry

[gusty cipher]

ah the black aux torp?

i don't have it but i can make it

[scenic tendon]

yes

[scenic tendon]

it was from an event

bro

[gusty cipher]

i have it

[scenic tendon]

oh

[gusty cipher]

i just hadn't crafted it

i have mostly everything i've just never tryharded in pvp

i just want as much as merit as possible for SSR bulins

alright i changed with mag torp

[scenic tendon]

actually if you want merits

just go rushing

[gusty cipher]

this is what i have for main

[scenic tendon]

I think you should put beaver on Musashi

since she will tank lots of the dmg

[gusty cipher]

instead of the UR aux?

[scenic tendon]

instead of the white shell

also

[honest moon]

Good with tea torps on shima

[scenic tendon]

HSFCR is important in pvping

more hit stats = less missed bullets

[gusty cipher]

but isn't the admirality thingy better HSFCR?

[scenic tendon]

yes

[gusty cipher]

or i just need it on Mush

[scenic tendon]

but your NJ just doesnt have

HSFCR

[gusty cipher]

ye i put one on her now with the white shell

but the gun for Musashi the blue is better than the purple right?

[scenic tendon]

you can use this thing instead of white shell tho

[neon bronze]

UR AA on Ancho and STAAG +13 on Shima

[scenic tendon]

blue gun musashi + 457mm NJ is a good comp imo

[gusty cipher]

for NJ or Mush?

[scenic tendon]

for NJ

Musashi will go with beaver and table

NJ with magic and hsfcr

[scenic tendon]

saw CN players doing this

[neon bronze]

depends if running 2 BB, Musashi herself only, or 3 BB
2 bb almost always choose Blue
3 BB, depends on what you want; sniping Ancho before her blue torp, or bigger shelling dmg agaisnt backline

[scenic tendon]

just dont go 3 457mm

lmao

but if you are using Shinano it will be fine

[gusty cipher]

should i prioritize any gear for 13?

[scenic tendon]

man I want to have Shinano

[gusty cipher]

i don't have yellow parts unfortunately

atleast not enough

[scenic tendon]

I think you are set to go

beside the secondary gun of NJ

[gusty cipher]

what about it?

[scenic tendon]

the best dd gun for her

you should have 1 of it at +13 for doing more contents

like ops

[gusty cipher]

u mean siren?

[scenic tendon]

yes

NJ can only equip dd guns

[whole salmon]

No need to +13 her aux gun if you want to save plates

[gusty cipher]

the only part of OPsiren i am struggling is META ships i can't make a fleet that can kill it in 1 go

[whole salmon]

+13 the Staags are more worth it

[scenic tendon]

^ or this

but you are fine with that Shinano bruh

2 +13 wyverns is enough

[gusty cipher]

i was kinda surprised to learn that u don't need shinrais

i have like 3 of em

[scenic tendon]

tenrai?

[gusty cipher]

ye

for pvp i mean

[scenic tendon]

pvping is much different than pve contents

[whole salmon]

Tenrais are still important

What are you talking about

[scenic tendon]

tenrai on aquila

[gusty cipher]

ah i guess not for Shinano

i didn't look at other ships

[scenic tendon]

you should take advantage of Shinano's plane slots tho

and tenrai is just too slow when using with 2 wyverns

[gusty cipher]

fair

alright thanks for help guys i will now to go gameplay help and try to figure out if i can make a fleet for Meta battle

[scenic tendon]

whichs meta?

[gusty cipher]

rn Algerié

[scenic tendon]

Do you have Bis 2?

[gusty cipher]

ya

[scenic tendon]

I'm suprised you havent oneshot'd it

Bismarck 2 is the core of the fight tho

[gusty cipher]

idk i kept looking at the builds ppl use to kill it on yt and i try to copy them but i always get to like 30x or 40x

[scenic tendon]

you can play it... by manual controlling

💀

and the boss's armor type is medium so

[gusty cipher]

well i thought since i have practically everything i could kill it by autoing xd

[scenic tendon]

saw someone with +13 wyverns auto'ing Algerie META

hm

okay, keep trying

time to look for pvp eos

[gusty cipher]

aight thanks

[scenic tendon]

lmao

@neon bronze #1 Sandy 2580 points

im dying

[neon bronze]

wait tf

[scenic tendon]

I was looking for the leaderboard

and the top 1 was 2580

[neon bronze]

meanwhile, Amagi got #1 at 2603

[scenic tendon]

seconds later the daily came

like 5 seconds

and its all gone

[scenic tendon]

I just borrowed an account on lexington

[neon bronze]

bruh

[scenic tendon]

time to have some fun

[neon bronze]

what cmdr lvl

[scenic tendon]

105

[neon bronze]

enjoy

[scenic tendon]

he has all of the meta ships tho

and some good old gears

[scenic tendon]

stop mocking us

30k fleet power when

[neon bronze]

pogU deivi

[pseudo copper]

Zepter is almost #1 on all servers, let alone Amagi

[scenic tendon]

tf loli what?

[neon bronze]

yes

[late heath]

[scenic tendon]

sandy issue

[valid oxide]

I'm gonna try for aotn again (hope I don't quit half way through )

[winged depot]

good luck

[neon bronze]

[valid oxide]

This has happened all 2 times if tried for aotn in the past btw

This time will be different

[neon bronze]

just bust exercises if you want to

and sleep

[neon bronze]

Plymouth meta

[junior trench]

I have a feeling Kearsarge will cause CV fleets to be a good bit more common again.

[hidden robin]

if they survive long enough

[pseudo copper]

ARA is ignorable

Issue with CV isn't their damage

It's their survivability compared to UR BB

[junior trench]

True, but one of them has the survivability of a battleship.

[pseudo copper]

None do, closest is Shinano

[hidden robin]

also most CVs if not equipped with fast planes, it will take them like 20s to deploy airstrike, but the opponents' BBs already cause so much damage to our vanguards within that 20s

[junior trench]

Well, we'll just have to wait and see how everything turns out.

[hidden robin]

i still hope Kearsarge's burn dmg from airtrike would be at worst 1000 dmg per tick

[whole salmon]

The conditions for activating it is 1 USS ship

So you have 2 options

Run NJ and 1 CV

Or 1 USS CV

[whole salmon]

This means you miss out on Musashi

[whole salmon]

None of them are good enough

[whole salmon]

=> Just use Kear in triple BB

[junior trench]

Again, we’ll see how it turns out

All we can do is wait now.

Who knows.

[whole salmon]

You can cope for better CVs

Coping on Kear won’t help you

Coping on Kear replacing Musashi won’t help you either

[junior trench]

I don’t have a Musashi to replace

Regardless, like I said, let’s wait and see. Most people don’t even have Kearsarge yet.

[whole salmon]

This feels like maximum copium like with the case of Implacable and Yorktown 2

Currently no top player is planning to run Kear with any CV, if they even run Kear at all

You can cope for September slot releasing a CV strong enough to make Kear worth while

If you mean using Kier as a substitute then maybe

[junior trench]

This isn’t even copious my guy. This is me not putting the cart before the horse. Your trying to base something on a situation we don’t have data on yet. If she comes out and she’s not that great on PvP, that’s fine with me, and it’s also fine with me if she is great.

[whole salmon]

But then again, we have so many ships in that substitute slot

[whole salmon]

Ofc we have to wait and see but I still hold my right to speculate based on the specific data from the datamine

If you want to support your opinion, provide concrete case of a Kear CV fleet

We would then comment on your idea

[flint python]

[junior trench]

I mean, I don’t know how it’ll work yet, or who’ll be the preferred teammates with her. All I’m saying is that we’ll most likely get an increase in people using CV fleets due to the buffs she brings.

[flint python]

no

no we wont :>

[whole salmon]

I think the only things that can increase the number of CVs used is that the devs release stronger CVs

Currently aside from 3 CVs, no other CV is good enough

[flint python]

unless a super cracked cv comes then sure you can use kear nj and that

but no musashi so gl

[whole salmon]

And we have like 8 BBs competing for that same slot

[whole salmon]

If the devs releases a strong USS CV with good survivability, I could see this being the case

[flint python]

Midway

[whole salmon]

But as of the current ships that we have, the CVs are still in a mbruh situation where only Shinano, Aquila and Hiryuu are used

[junior trench]

That’s for sure gonna be a UR

[whole salmon]

Also

CV fleets were strong at one point last year but people didn’t use them

During the NJ Shinano Hiryuu era against Mafia

The main concern was that Shinano and Hiryuu still requires too much investment

Getting 4 rainbow planes ready for pvp already put off most people

Compare that to 1 blue gun for Musashi and 2 457mm and you are done

[flint python]

406 is also good transition

mk4

[whole salmon]

The French plane that serves as budget Wyvern is event exclusive

So we don’t have budget for CV comp or good transitions

Not to mention a lot of people would like to keep their pve gear on their CVs for OPSI

So there are loads of other factors at play

[pseudo copper]

There isn't a CV I see worth using outside Shinano/Hiryuu/Aquila (Aquila is purely an Amagi tech) and I doubt I'll be replacing NJ, so Kearsarge is going for triple BB is my only conclusion

[whole salmon]

Unless a strong USS CV arrives in September slot, this is likely also my judgment

[pseudo copper]

It's JP anni

[whole salmon]

IJN Yamato?

[pseudo copper]

If they don't run IJN it'll be a meme

[whole salmon]

[pseudo copper]

4th Yamato class dw

[whole salmon]

Kear in triple BB might be more fun

Depending on if her planes can spot or not

[flint python]

gonna be yamato class meta

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/610601940639809542/1078506136149430422/914343838162780241.gif

[whole salmon]

Which could prove to fix triple BB’s main weakness

Occasional losing frontline fight and not spotting CV

If Kear can spot then she would prove quite useful

But ofc, we have to wait and see

[pseudo copper]

Should be able to, it is 4 + a few more in barrage

[whole salmon]

Kear might replace Aquila if she can spot

[flint python]

how tanky are the barrage planes

[pseudo copper]

6 fighters yeah

[whole salmon]

Instead of helping CVs, she ended up removing another CV from the meta

[flint python]

also does avgas affect barrage planes?

says carrier based aircraft

[pseudo copper]

We'll have to wait and see ig, do believe Shinano's were effected not sure

[whole salmon]

Kear being able to reliably spot might kill CVs for good

And that’s quite scary

[flint python]

Bocchi meta

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-anime-mental-breakdown-cringe-gif-27026754

[pseudo copper]

Quite based*

[lusty hill]

do you guys really think kearsarge will be meta unironically

like she has no gun barrage and her planes are fighter

[pseudo copper]

Wdym no gun barrage

[lusty hill]

she only has an airstrike barrage and it's rocket

[flint python]

bruh

[pseudo copper]

She has a timed barrage

[lusty hill]

that barrage kinda weak

[pseudo copper]

Based on?

[flint python]

uh that's not weak

[pseudo copper]

It's already near top damage wise

So how is it weak?

[flint python]

also lock on

can also shift target when locked ship dies

[lusty hill]

this top tier?

[pseudo copper]

Yes

[lusty hill]

I'm sure even hood do more than that

[pseudo copper]

It's aimed on burning enemies

With how her skillset is built and her barrages overall interact she has one of highest survivabilities in game and damage potential

[lusty hill]

well then you would need fast HE gun to do burn since that barrage is on 20s

[flint python]

airstrike does burn

[pseudo copper]

NJ barrage deals with that and so does airstrike

[lusty hill]

how fast is her airstrike since she only has 4 planes

is it gonna be fast like cvl

[flint python]

30% reduced cd on first airstrike

[lusty hill]

ok then she sounds cool

I hope I'm not late developing her

[pseudo copper]

Too late, mine is fate 5

[lusty hill]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1099273339027071027.webp?size=48

[junior trench]

Tch, you don't even have her augment yet. How slow are you?

[pseudo copper]

Did you even retro her?

[junior trench]

Of course I have.
Twice.

[valid oxide]

Hood has bigger numbers but much worse stats

Almost like it's compensating for a stat deficit

[vale minnow]

i arrivew late and everyone is already at 141 points, and im at 0 , will i get a chance to be top 100

[spiral owl]

you're fine as long as you're able to beat your opponents

[neon bronze]

Yeah just bag off from some rushers to gain bonus points

[deft escarp]

Midway with 8k hp, light armor and damage reduction

Launch plane barrage at 15s mark that reduces detectability to 0 for all CVs on your fleet

[stable dawn]

nah just make her preload with HP shield

basically a better Lusty

[lusty hill]

they will release that

[proven verge]

Hitting top 10 for the first time brah 💪💪💪

[rocky shadow]

Stay like that until aotn

[pseudo copper]

Doesn't work like that

[junior trench]

Does your defense team take gear into consideration?

[pseudo copper]

It updates every hour to whatever you have equipped

[junior trench]

Because I'm curious, do you just always run PvP builds on all your ships even when you're farming in case you get attacked?

[pseudo copper]

Defence fleet doesn't matter

Anyone that is running anything decent will get by regardless

[rocky shadow]

Well since pr1 until pr5 there not many pr ship that meta ini pvp

Only some that good in pvp (ex: anchorage, Harbin, fdg)

The rest? Maybe still good for pve

[whole salmon]

You have to take into consideration the context of when the ships are released. Some PR ships are pvp meta during their time but was later replaced

[rocky shadow]

I'm sorry i play when pr2/3 release

[whole salmon]

This applies to Monarch, Neptune, Saint Louis, Ibuki, Azuma and Seattle

[rocky shadow]

So i didnt know if some pr1/pr2 at that time meta fleet

[whole salmon]

They were all soon replaced by better options but they were still very much meta during their days

The typical frontline for back then would be Juneau Saint Louis Yukikaze, with Neptune as substitute

Monarch was used during the Warspite Era to 1 shot backliners

[rocky shadow]

I know that azuma and Seattle meta at some time but i never use them

[whole salmon]

Azuma soon replaced Saint Louis

Seattle was used during the Italian meta

Ibuki was used for torp frontline for a while

They aren’t meta anymore but they were very much meta back then

[rocky shadow]

That make sense at that time i didn't get NJ so i use 2 ijn cv and nagato

[rocky shadow]

I still remember when mafia fleet still strong back then

[whole salmon]

Old gif but this was the idea of Monarch Warkai back then

Monarch was already replaced by FDG by the time PR2 comes around

And CV concealment update killed this style of comp permanently

[whole salmon]

Tbf even back then, people came up with counter to this comp

Being the Nagato Amagi Hiryuu comp

Sometimes Hiryuu or Amagi would run VH armor

[rocky shadow]

I'm one of player that use strategy at that time

Now i just using meta fleet for easy win and not have to try hard to beat someone fleet (casually pvp now)

[stable dawn]

show #1 eos

[neon bronze]

gamer

[spiral owl]

holy this is old, brings back some good memories

[frail solar]

best pvp carriers?

[pseudo copper]

Lil E just have to worry about Hiryuu

[frail solar]

thx

[frail solar]

why about that?

[pseudo copper]

We don't have any other meta CV

[frail solar]

naisu

[lusty hill]

[frail solar]

damn why do i always run down lil e zwei and nj on the same team when theres a fleet tierlist B RU

[pseudo copper]

Lil E options are limited so people just use the URs they get, most are just newbies or people that don't know pvp comps

Bis 2 just bad

[frail solar]

rip bis

can u get musashi on builds?

[pseudo copper]

No

[frail solar]

damn it.

welp gotta wait a year for a rerun iF THEY DO THAT

[pseudo copper]

Rn Lil E comp is ideally smth like Tamaki/FdG, Hiryuu, NJ
Ancho, Harbin/Ykkz/Ayanami, Juneau

[frail solar]

aight aight

[pseudo copper]

Kearsarge is still wait and see, you can work towards her though but will be hard considering you wanna invest in pr4, 5 and 6 at same time

[frail solar]

And i dont even have any pr2 ships yet

[stable dawn]

reruns don't exist. Also pvp doesn't exist.
The #1 solution is to just wait for new OP units and spam grind mats for unit enhancements. Don't worry about LMD, you will never have enough

[fickle echo]

Unironically we are more likely to get a collab rerun before an UR event rerun

[flint python]

your favorite waifu doesn't exist

[stable dawn]

wrong

https://tenor.com/view/ctto-nukemoe-lancet-attack-gif-20221983

[unreal beacon]

Is there a list/tier list here? For ships and equipment or is it just all the same as bossing

[covert helm]

check the pinned messages

[valid oxide]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/859804429536198676.gif?quality=lossless&size=100 is better

[steel coral]

Indep + kear

[deft escarp]

Just use Kearsarge+York II

[steel coral]

[lusty hill]

I'm pretty sure salty belfast have york2 like that too

[steel coral]

optimal setup

[proven verge]

This is not gonna last long, but worth a screen shot

[valid oxide]

Oh no I will just wait at 5 exercises available until eos where I dump them all at once

I will be top ten eos

[neon bronze]

Good luck on ImAGay server.

[trail temple]

[pseudo copper]

Just be like Deathkt and dump twice on eos day

[proven verge]

I just really like the smol number on the screen. Once I’m admiral of navy I’m prolly never gonna do exercise ever again

[stable dawn]

that's what they all say

[proven verge]

🗿

[rocky shadow]

Still you need merit for buying extra gold bullin

So after you get Admiral of navy just casually pvp

[lusty hill]

Very strong fleet as expected from an Aquila fleet but the uvh on this fleet is surprisingly strong kinda weird since uvh isn't usually this strong and annoying, it took me few tries and I only managed to beat it after uvh got sniped

[empty mesa]

[flint python]

[valid oxide]

Deathkt defence fleet gave me an exercise that took over 1 minute

[valid oxide]

"Aquila fleet" "strong"

[empty mesa]

Aquila 🚮

[valid oxide]

Deathkt has Aquila defence fleet but has much better gear than me

[flint python]

his def probly even using pve gear which is funny

[valid oxide]

Its just a testament how shit my fleet and gear is

Said shit fleet and gear I am referencing

(it's USS quadmags, site doesn't have them though)

[scenic tendon]

no way its sg radar

+12

wtf

[flint python]

no nj

?

[lusty hill]

Aquila fleet is strong yes and I refuse to be convinced otherwise

if she's weak then nobody would use her and yet so many of the strong fleet are the one with aquila

[flint python]

ok imma start running 818 aquila

[valid oxide]

I love having a PvPer I know in the fleets I can attack

[scenic tendon]

and?

[valid oxide]

Not mlb yet

[valid oxide]

For Helena in pve

[scenic tendon]

actually its great things

what?

okay it makes sense

but still sg radar tho

[valid oxide]

+12 sg > +10 fmp

[stable dawn]

holy fuck Andy is actually going to fall out of his chair over this one

[scenic tendon]

bro really invested on frontline

respect

while I just want Juneau to die faster

[stable dawn]

by this logic mafia is still the strongest fleet. I see more mafia than any other fleet type on ladder.

It's definitely not because people haven't changed their def fleets out of laziness or don't care about pvp beyond aotn.

[scenic tendon]

I see more lolis fleets...

💀

[valid oxide]

My fleet is an emo fleet

[scenic tendon]

my def fleet is my experimental ones, sadly I'm just lazy to switch the gears

[stable dawn]

I use random non-meta oaths. Happened to get three NP this time.

[lusty hill]

no mafia isn't strong, veneto is definetly replaced by musashi but aquila is certainly still strong even nowadays

[valid oxide]

Is that pamiat tash murm?

[scenic tendon]

[tacit owl]

[stable dawn]

actually, didn't you once say you never +13'd any pvp gear? That might be the main factor here.

[scenic tendon]

true

[lusty hill]

I did +13 most of my pvp gear

also pretty sure it's unrelated like +13 gear won't magically reduce aquila damage

and yes my defensive aux is +13

[candid sluice]

i see mutsuki a lot on ladder does that mean shes good

[tacit owl]

Yes

[candid sluice]

aquila truly meta to reveal triple bb backline

[scenic tendon]

lmao

[lusty hill]

aquila preload do 20-40% damage to backline, musashi barrage do 50% damage, then aquila second load will finish any unlucky ship

[stable dawn]

[lusty hill]

and this with opponent 2 BB still intact and aquila still hidden

[flint python]

actually more fun to use aquila 818 then nuke with torps

time to scrap my +13 wyverns

[stable dawn]

what is your fleet/gear setup anyway

I'm genuinely curious how Aquila is beating you up so badly

[flint python]

@candid sluice not playing anymore?

[candid sluice]

💀 ⚰️

[flint python]

rip

[stable dawn]

[lusty hill]

something like this

harbin is rainbow and uss mag

[stable dawn]

[flint python]

[stable dawn]

there's a lot to unpack

[flint python]

run wnt

[lusty hill]

wnt still relevant

[stable dawn]

it has good stats

don't use it flag on a dps fleet

[flint python]

since you don't seem to have a shima then run it flag

[scenic tendon]

use Juneau

go stalling

[flint python]

perfect for your burst problem

[scenic tendon]

if you dont have Shimakaze then just run stall

💀

[flint python]

yeah run jun

[lusty hill]

why is that

[scenic tendon]

idk, my experiences?

you dont have that much burst dmg

so its just better for your vanguard to stay alive

[lusty hill]

ok then I'll try

so who want wnt fdg or nj?

[flint python]

run manjuu nj ez

[scenic tendon]

^

[flint python]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/864969051163066409/867505108509523979/SpuglyBastardCool.gif

[scenic tendon]

going CN meta

[lusty hill]

I have to refuse that one

[scenic tendon]

although I use manjuu nj too

lmao

[flint python]

I rather use manjuu nj that whatever that is you are running

[lusty hill]

I'll try it on extremely hard fleet but not on regular fleet

[scenic tendon]

just try this CN Anchorage

[stable dawn]

if you're going juneau put harbin mid

[scenic tendon]

[lusty hill]

double shell big damage right

[scenic tendon]

bro speaking my currently team

[scenic tendon]

no

[flint python]

no hit no damage

[lusty hill]

removing ayanami?

[scenic tendon]

yes

[flint python]

she's useless

[scenic tendon]

she is so fragile

[lusty hill]

nah ayanami do more damage than harbin

[flint python]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/610601940639809542/1078506136149430422/914343838162780241.gif

[scenic tendon]

harbing can survive better

yet she can support more for the team

[stable dawn]

@lusty hill you can probably use something like this

juneau can also use UR DD gun (represented by twin 100mm)

[scenic tendon]

manjuu nj and washing machine anchorage is also a choice

[stable dawn]

manjuu NJ is a meme

[lusty hill]

man I don't want to replace ayanami

[stable dawn]

stop trolling smh

[scenic tendon]

since I want my NJ to survive to fight another salvos

im not trolling

Why do you think I'm trolling?

[flint python]

manjuu nj is only legit in right comps

[lusty hill]

ok then I'll try that this season see if it's an improvement

wait wouldn't NJ and fdg fire at the same time?

[scenic tendon]

nah Nj has self-buff

[lusty hill]

ok then

[stable dawn]

Famine proposed it as a joke and it caught on very quickly. People realized it was garbage and started meming about it. It has some situational uses but there are just better options, especially on attack.

[scenic tendon]

[stable dawn]

FdG has the odd/even fire things so double 457 shouldn't be as much of an issue

[scenic tendon]

so Famine's joke = CN meta

[lusty hill]

thanks everyone, hope it fix my skill issue

[stable dawn]

wait CN actually uses it unironically???

[lusty hill]

[flint python]

so does jp

[scenic tendon]

but in MSN

[stable dawn]

wtf lmao

that's so cursed

[scenic tendon]

for another salvos

and I literally dont have to worry if I'm about to lose

[stable dawn]

MSN actually prefers having it on anchorage so you can beat torpmeme comps faster

[flint python]

since vanguards dies so fast now it actually viable for backline duel

[scenic tendon]

MSN(manjuu) is CN meta tho

[flint python]

since you get accelerated reload

[stable dawn]

I mean, CN used 818 Aquila

and I heard from Pink they're now trying triple CV to counter triple BB

[scenic tendon]

man

I should try CN AL

...

[stable dawn]

@whole salmon What was it, Luna + Akaga?

Mega cursed

[scenic tendon]

but I dont have Musashi so...

[scenic tendon]

what

[whole salmon]

Luna + Akagi + Kaga

3 Wyverns, 2 Tenrais

[scenic tendon]

💀

[stable dawn]

[scenic tendon]

any footage

[whole salmon]

Frontline was Ancho Potter Sirius

[scenic tendon]

oh

so cursed lmao

[flint python]

wasn't it using 818 as well

[whole salmon]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1hj411X77C/?spm_id_from=333.999.list.card_archive.click

[whole salmon]

Was it Swordfish on Luna

I forgot

It probably was

[flint python]

there's rockets as well

[stable dawn]

oh yeah also if you find Juneau is dying late, try Gyro + Boiler instead

[whole salmon]

• Kaga: Sea Hornet/Tenrai/Wyvern, Beacon Fuel

• Akagi: Bf109/Tenrai/Wyvern, Beacon Fuel

• Luna: Tiger/Swordfish/Staag, WNT Fuel

• Ancho: standard but with Beaver Boiler

• Potter: 128, Sextuple, Manjuu, Boiler

• Sirius: UR DD, Sextuple, Pearl boiler

It is a cringe comp either way

Somehow it worked to counter triple BB

But it sucks against all other comps

Not recommended

[stable dawn]

the real gigabrain strat is to change your comp to counter every fleet you're fighting

[flint python]

should also stop time while doing so

[stable dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/za-warudo-jojo-bizarre-adventure-power-gif-14292027

[scenic tendon]

pvp should be like that

[stable dawn]

if pvp was that fun and well designed, sandbagging wouldn't exist

we'd probably just have an ELO system instead like in most other games

[scenic tendon]

dang you're correct

so matured

[lusty hill]

elo is that rank on chess right?

[scenic tendon]

my type of girl

[stable dawn]

ye

a lot of games use a similar system but hide the rating and replace it with rank divisions (Bronze 5, Silver 3, etc.)

[lusty hill]

pvp reworked update

[stable dawn]

make it linked to guilds too

[tacit owl]

Chess

[stable dawn]

but they'll never do that.
PvP is an afterthought.

[candid sluice]

azur lane pvp grandmaster 💀

[stable dawn]

Bronze to GM speedrun

[candid sluice]

who can get the most collusions in one season

[lusty hill]

I think they will rework pvp considering the effort they put to rework challenge mode

[stable dawn]

no the rework will consist of removing daily shop reset from merit shop

and limiting to 2 SR bulins per month

💀

[flint python]

I made a CN fleet

[lusty hill]

the rework will make the score based on fleet power

[flint python]

funny enough I named it Redditech

[candid sluice]

it took them two years to reword cm bruh

[stable dawn]

no because then smurfs will use level 70 anchos or something equally cringe

[flint python]

also very funny cause it actually works

[lusty hill]

I can wait

[tacit owl]

Account fleet power

P2w pvp

[stable dawn]

pay 2 lose