#pvp

1 messages Β· Page 49 of 1

stable dawn
winged depot
scenic tendon
#

fr

zinc phoenix
#

why are the anti sub torps so high up?

floral wave
#

because they are magnetic and they fire in a similar pattern to mark IX torps

#

has nothing to do with the asw part

brazen socket
#

is the exp gain on pvp fixed or does it depend on the level of the defense fleet ships and possiblty their rarity?

neon bronze
#

halved when you lose

delicate mango
torpid shuttle
#

frontier medal actually is the primary thing stopping me from being walled against triple bb Thinkpitz

neon bronze
#

?

lusty hill
#

Probably yes if you don't use triple BB yourself

little bobcat
#

yeah it does

torpid shuttle
#

yeah im still on musa shinano hiryuu

pseudo copper
torpid shuttle
#

isnt nj the less consistent comp

pseudo copper
#

Make @stable dawn proud

pseudo copper
#

MSN is one of the most if not most consistent against everything p much

torpid shuttle
#

hmm, and the musa nj fdg comp was the other thing?

pseudo copper
#

Yeah, triple BB

#

Can check pins, Amagi wise there isn't much of a threat so Yakuza almost 100% winrate for me, so not really much of an issue to run anything here

torpid shuttle
#

tbh i just want to minimize gear swaps at this point

pseudo copper
#

Just run pvp gear in opsi like a normal person

valid oxide
#

Top 10 EoS with this fleet Boisium

#

Also USS quadmag still not on the site Portdoll

pseudo copper
#

You are Amagi

valid oxide
#

Fair

pseudo copper
#

I already did a whole season using pve gear prior

valid oxide
#

Might run mini anchorage when I switch to triple BB just for the fun of it

fickle echo
pseudo copper
#

Rest were pvp afaik except maybe Sushi?

#

Was while back when people still were using mafia and Sushi came out

valid oxide
#

What main guns are used on sushi fdg NJ in triple BB?

pseudo copper
#

Either geo gun, mk4, 356 or double geo, 356

valid oxide
#

Who gets 457 and who gets MK4 then

neon bronze
#

fdg mk4, nj 457

#

meanwhile i just crafted a 2nd 457 so i'll just be using that on fdg as well

#

if i run 3 bb

valid oxide
little bobcat
#

the lack of it*

pseudo copper
#

It won't

neon bronze
#

but most likely i'll run MSN, I don't have the needed gears at +13 enhance to equip MILF backline BBs with all +13 auxiliaries while I could do the same with MSN

neon bronze
#

as perceived initially

fickle echo
#

The desync shouldn't even happen at the first salvo since FDG is much slower than NJ on odd salvos ShiSleep

pseudo copper
#

It starts on 2nd

#

But by that time fight is done

hollow walrus
neon bronze
#

🐌 developer

scenic tendon
#

this dude is good

#

sandy eos lots of time

#

but his gun timing is kinda meh

#

and... daily moment of Sandy's pvping

#

Guess I will have 5 hrs of sleeping

stable dawn
#

iirc he uses 460mm gun on Musashi which is weird af

scenic tendon
#

not even a second salvos

#

he got 5 of my fleet

#

pretty decent

little bobcat
#

when does pvp end

#

is it this reset?

floral wave
#

next

#

10h20min

#

if im counting right

little bobcat
#

thanks

deft escarp
winged depot
neon bronze
#

Who proceeded to... discuss with me that tech

#

Now, I'd stick to current PvP meta

#

but there's this lingering thought behind my head that tells me to test that on Amagi

#

Not now, though

floral wave
#

perseus + 460 musashi

#

that must be it

little bobcat
#

im gonna sit out next season prob

#

i won't eos

valid oxide
empty mesa
#

When you EoS, Kenji? WorryWeirdBig

valid oxide
neon bronze
#

Tis' my last Meeb season

trail temple
#

Is the meeb shilling finally ending?

hollow walrus
trail temple
neon bronze
#

If I gonna play, that is

neon bronze
trail temple
fickle echo
trail temple
neon bronze
#

Good fleet to build if you wanna try other fleets imo

Hiryuu and Aquila basically shares the same loadout with 2/3 gear choices, add in Shinano as well
The twin 137 you craft for Musashi at first that you set aside for Ply gun fits well on New Jersey, with her rerun
Frontline as well is pretty comfy, you only need to build gear for 3 to 4 ships (Stall + Harbin)

Aside from the caveats of crafting 457/mk4 guns, a HSFCR, and one more Hit+Eva Aux to enhance, and entire ships such as Shimakaze (maybe)

empty mesa
neon bronze
#

Pretty cool if you wanna diverge to the 2BB 1CV fleets later on with choices

#

2 BB 1 CV fleets are easier to build, though.

little bobcat
#

shinano akaga

candid sluice
#

The day beth stops using meeb is the day that fleet dies

deft escarp
#

Pretty sure that was Sora

stable dawn
neon bronze
neon bronze
deft escarp
#

I was playing at the time

honest moon
#

Gone are the daya retrospite does a snipe and takes out 90% of a ship's hp

little bobcat
#

what?

#

i did fine w/ spite

neon bronze
#

✍️

honest moon
#

Hardly see her in fleets now

#

Everyone be running milfs/sushi/msn/mafia

neon bronze
#

the times have changed

#

new ships, gear...

#

and viable fleet compositions

honest moon
#

How would MSN work with preload aquilas denying shina tho?

honest moon
#

Don't have issue with zwei's add on using MILF tho

whole salmon
#

It is just a difference in playstyle of fast comps vs stall comps

#

Aquila fleets would try to minimize the impact of Shinano by killing her before she sends her airstrike or by killing the frontline

#

Shinano fleets would do the opposite, focusing on survivability then counter attack with superior damage

stable dawn
#

also by not revealing enemy aquila, your BBs can focus on the enemy BBs

tawny parcel
#

is 3 BBs still usable?

honest moon
honest moon
stable dawn
#

yes

#

and Juneau makes it so your Shinano is basically too thicc to die

honest moon
#

Interesting... cos i sink MSN comps with MILF quite ez

#

MSN of course running shina flag?

neon bronze
#

You could

#

I prefer Musashi mid in MSN, think some baggers put her on mid as well

random maple
#

lets gooooo im finally good at pvp rank 10 baybee /j

#

i love rank reset it makes me feel powerful for a few hours before everyone wakes up and shoves 18k fleets down my throat

floral wave
#

18k power fleets are mostly a meme WarShrug

random maple
#

well when theres a 4.5k power differnce, the meme is real

stable dawn
random maple
#

i should really buckle down and get my stuff to… whats the max gear, +13?

stable dawn
#

MSN is just more comfortable to play tbh

#

I can sleep and still pvp

zealous wasp
#

18k power should be pretty standard now, no?

stable dawn
#

yeah my MSN fleet is around 18.2k

whole salmon
#

Yeah 18k is standard for backline

random maple
neon bronze
#

enhance gear diff

#

damn

random maple
#

i need to get musashi/shinano then ill start taking things seriously. so, like, a year from now.

scenic tendon
#

I threw

valid oxide
steel coral
scenic tendon
#

milf is great but sometimes lose to... 2bb+cv comps

#

if bad rng

empty mesa
tawny parcel
#

what is milf comp?

stable dawn
#

it's in salty's pinned doc

tawny parcel
#

i dont have musashi, can i use bis 2 in her spot?

little bobcat
#

biszwei is worse than every ur bb except uvh

#

actualy even uvh is prob bettert

trail temple
#

I was still 17k until I switched to MSN

#

Bisco zwei to URs is like Stephen He to his father

little bobcat
#

biszwei is isnane in pve

#

but in pvp shes worse than even some sr bbs

tawny parcel
#

im not sure but she is in every comp in little enty

brazen socket
tawny parcel
#

so its still safe to use her?

brazen socket
#

yeah

little bobcat
#

little enty is literally like

#

baby server

#

dont you have nj?

#

just use fdg nj tamaki

#

or nj fdg hiryuu

tawny parcel
#

i do have nj

#

and tamaki but she is low level

brazen socket
#

wait, didnt little enty get created after doa

tawny parcel
brazen socket
#

ough I mixed up dates

empty mesa
#

Wasn't it like the first event?

zenith lantern
#

Ari has slightly better gear than me but it looks like Bis may not even be that good there

tawny parcel
#

my other bbs are low
only gold ships such as hood/war kai are 125

empty mesa
#

Don't worry about pvp tbh.

#

Better progress your pve.

stable dawn
tawny parcel
#

i mean im into pvp in other games so...

floral wave
#

he meant it as in dont worry about pvp for now

#

its natural you wont be able to use best comp/gears this early on, especially on lil e

stable dawn
#

also pvp in this game really requires a lot of stuff from PvE, such as gold plates

neon bronze
#

i'm sure that players on Lil E have +13 457s used on New Jersey.

little bobcat
#

πŸ‘‹

#

oh

#

nvm

#

LOL

neon bronze
#

lol

#

can still catch up on your own pace if active

empty mesa
#

People who smurfing since day one probably has.

tacit owl
tawny parcel
#

this rainbow gun?

neon bronze
deft escarp
#

@whole salmon Btw, how much dmg can you squeeze out from +13 aux guns

errant zenith
#

Best CV is Aquila for pvp right

#

does uni work tho... My aquila is not fully developed

trail temple
#

And no, Uni struggles to fulfill the same purpose that Aquila does

errant zenith
trail temple
errant zenith
trail temple
#

Check the pins

#

The PvP spreadsheet

errant zenith
#

ok

tawny parcel
honest moon
#

NJ.. and a few other BBs

candid sluice
#

she fell off

honest moon
#

And retrospite had the sword blocking the view

valid oxide
#

Retrospite isn't the worst Boisium

#

Her survivability is at least bad enough that you can run hsfcr and crayon shell and she will live just as long as survivability aux

neon bronze
#

it's been so long since i actively leveled up a ship through PvP

brazen socket
#

this was before other URs existed

gritty quiver
#

torp dds like aya, shima, etc want staag right

#

i cant remember since i skipped out on pvp for like a month PortDoll

neon bronze
#

you can always consult the sheet as many times as you could

scenic tendon
neon bronze
#

lel

scenic tendon
#

so disturbing

#

uhhh

neon bronze
#

cats add a whole layer of cancer to pvp, hopefully they don't add that shitty feature in pvp

scenic tendon
#

yeah fr fr

#

time to wall people in pvp

fickle echo
#

Inb4 more people run full factions fleet because of cats having faction buffs DunktsukiStare

lusty hill
#

I hope they add cats to pvp

#

I know even boomers don't bother having good cats

#

My cats are solid and could fix my skill issue

brazen socket
hollow walrus
neon bronze
#

yeah, RLD stat increase
can already think of Musashi w/ 356 & gay table decimating Anchorage before her blue torps even launch for a 2nd time

#

other than that, idk. i'm not really a guy who raises cats

fickle echo
hollow walrus
#

Shima with 3% increased crit rate kek

neon bronze
#

congratulations! you've made wall fleets even harder to beat BuckyPrideZoom

#

i can't consistently beat 2 guys before, now make that 3 and maybe even more TorricelliSad

fickle echo
#

Just use the flame agression cats and get lucky MutsukiStare

scenic tendon
#

I used to have 10 cats irl

neon bronze
#

pog

#

you also have cats ingame, right?

lusty hill
scenic tendon
scenic tendon
#

Talented in making us go bankrupted lmao. My family spent like 200$ to raise them for first 2 weeks, then we gave/sell them away.

#

ace pilots ugh

fickle echo
scenic tendon
#

and one of them decided to give birth to 7 kittens

candid sluice
#

My cats multiply on their own

neon bronze
#

Cat dupe method

trail temple
#

You're practically asking him to be permanently r1 and wall everyone

neon bronze
lusty hill
#

He won't be a problem since he don't use yakuza

trail temple
#

Noted, I'll dm him to run Yakuza then

neon bronze
#

ggs serenity

trail temple
#

Or something more toxic, we're still figuring that one out

fickle echo
#

Serenity?! EssexShock

neon bronze
#

Shin-Akaga?

lusty hill
#

Impostor MutsukiHyperStare

trail temple
#

One of Famine's cats @lusty hill

lusty hill
#

That's impossible MutsukiHyperStare

#

I have like that too but BB cats

stable dawn
brazen socket
wicked surge
scenic tendon
#

frick us

scenic tendon
#

got my second 457mm

#

time to have some fun

sand apex
#

Grats

cobalt bough
#

Should I change enty with Nagato for front change to Helena retrofit ,ayanami retrofit and saint Louis?

#

Or ayanami jenue saint Louis

neon bronze
#

Little Enterprise?

cobalt bough
#

Yeah

cobalt bough
neon bronze
#

ah, just asking

neon bronze
neon bronze
#

as for gears, you can consult the sheet pinned in here

neon bronze
deft escarp
tawny parcel
#

what does these colors mean? green is better or red is better?

clever moon
#

at the top of the spreadsheet it tells you which is better

#

green being best while red is sub-optimal

fickle echo
#

Complex here EssexShock

clever moon
#

professional lurker akshually

stable dawn
#

red is situational, not sub-optimal

#

if it was sub-optimal, it wouldn't be included

clever moon
#

mb

steel coral
brazen socket
#

why you asking like its their fault 😭

stable dawn
scenic tendon
#

there is a ship dealing like 28k per bullet

#

without crit

#

aint joking

trail temple
#

There was a ship with 72k hp

stable dawn
#

stagprince back at it again?

honest moon
#

What i don't get about pvp, is when u refresh, they give you someone even lower ranked.

Like heck im rank 6, given a highest rank of 14 to fight, and after refresh, highest im given is a rank 34. Like what the heck game

lusty hill
#

it often happen if you're at higher rank usually at 50 or lower

#

sometime you just have to eat -1

honest moon
#

Im given -10 or more...

#

And the refresh doesn't help at all

floral wave
#

thats why if you want more points you almost never zero out

honest moon
#

True

deft escarp
#

Only 0 out at the first couple days of PvP to avoid people who don't move and 20 minutes before eos

empty mesa
#

Is it a secret Sandy tech to get a shit score?

pseudo copper
vocal stratus
#

Hey guys, if im running Shinano-Musashi-NJ, but dont have Shimakaze, should I keep using Anchorage-Harbin-Juneau or swap Harbin for another IJN ship? Ty in advance!

neon bronze
#

Pick either Noshiro, Ayanami Retrofit, Yukikaze

vocal stratus
#

Ty!

neon bronze
#

Welcome

deft escarp
placid cave
#

why does bismarck zwei prefer twin 381mm instead of rainbow 457mm?
Also, according to the guide,
it must be noted than an optimized Triple BB fleet does not use three rainbow 457mm guns, preferring to stagger shots so that none get in the way of each other. Because of this, it is also one of the cheapest PvP fleets to run for those that already have Musashi and NJ, making it the most solid recommendation for PvP.
How many rainbow 457mm guns do I use and what do I use for the others?
Does this also apply to double BB fleets?

pseudo copper
#

1 or 2 Geo guns if running triple BB, Sushi uses twin 356 so other BB can use Geo gun if running MSN or smth

placid cave
#

geo guns is rainbow 457mm?
So if MSN then one 457mm + one 356mm
Triple BB then 2x 457mm + one 356mm?

pseudo copper
#

Or 1 mk4

placid cave
#

also is ayanami or noshiro better in vanguard

pseudo copper
#

I personally prefer running Ykkz over the 2

placid cave
#

what's mk4

pseudo copper
#

Twin 406 that is crafted into Geo gun

placid cave
#

is twin 410 kai on sushi + rainbow 457 on NJ better or twin 356 kai on sushi + twin 406 mk4 on NJ better

pseudo copper
#

If running no other BB twin 410

pseudo copper
#

For triple BB using FdG, I personally believe there is no issue of overlap so can run double geo gun

#

For others you'll have to check

placid cave
#

I don't have FdG, now using NJ sushi and bismarck zwei

pseudo copper
#

Just drop Bisco and use Hiryuu or Shinano

#

Bisco 2 p shit unless with Seyd maybe

placid cave
#

So if I do nj Musashi Shinano, what should be my BB gun setup

#

Rainbow + 356mm Kai ?

pseudo copper
#

Yes

placid cave
#

What if I use 410mm on musashi and mk4 on NJ, is it any better

neon bronze
tawny parcel
#

How ranking works in AL?

scenic tendon
#

but still, the opponent can keep trying till their first torpedoes salvos hit directly to her

#

that would be devasting

pseudo copper
#

She dies instantly Sleepnano

scenic tendon
#

Sandy aint have that many good fleets

pseudo copper
# tawny parcel How ranking works in AL?

More score you have higher rank you have, to get more bonuses you need to maximise point difference between you and who you are attacking, meaning you want to stay with as many exercises as possible while waiting for people on your list to move then you can attack them for a bonus

sand apex
#

This double bisz faction fleet was pretty obnoxious lol

floral wave
#

its single bis2

pseudo copper
#

It's a Bis 2 and Bis 1

sand apex
#

But they have the same skin?

pseudo copper
#

They can all use the same skins

sand apex
#

Oh i didnt know that bismarck could use bis2 skin

pseudo copper
neon bronze
#

recent feature lets the same ship use the same skins

pseudo copper
sand apex
#

Isee thanks didnt know that

pseudo copper
#

Idk how you struggle against that, last I checked you should've had enough time to get something decent up

sand apex
#

I lost 3x

pseudo copper
#

Port and Uni yorkBruh

#

Also Enty

sand apex
#

It was working ok for now

pseudo copper
#

KMS DD also has to go and Bisco 2 may be your best option idk what you have ready yet

sand apex
#

Ill have anchorage in a few days

#

Will probably drop portland for her

#

Not sure if any of my other ships are better pvp options

pseudo copper
#

Raise Hiryuu and run NJ, Hiryuu, FdG (once ready, Bisco 2 will do for now)
Ancho, Helena (I'd replace with Ykkz or Aya), Juneau

sand apex
#

Is ykkz easily accessible?

#

Whose better between her and ayanami? I have ayanami

floral wave
#

medal shop/light pool

pseudo copper
#

You'd end up with smth like this backline wise

pseudo copper
neon bronze
#

ayanami is inconsistent in her damage

#

as others have used her

sand apex
#

But 0 investment in ayanami yet

valid oxide
#

Aya is the reason I gave up on Aya and just started using harb + nosh if I need an aggro vang BuckyPrideAnim

#

Haven't tried Aya asw torp yet though so ShiSleep

sand apex
#

Ok maybe ill skip aya then

#

Is hiriyuu good for anything other than pvp

neon bronze
#

she could do world clearing in a bossing fleet w/ with souryuu and nagato
though uni's pretty likely to be on another fleet, and the bunnies are worse than the cranes (shoukaku, zuikaku) for that regard

pseudo copper
#

Would say bout same for world clearing

#

It becomes the case for opsi yes

sand apex
#

Is she a big difference over unicorn in pvp?

#

Because my uni 125 and oathed

pseudo copper
#

Yes

valid oxide
#

Uni in PvP is a questionable preload with 0 personal survivability

neon bronze
#

unicorn's preload is paper durability compared to the other preload ships

valid oxide
#

I seem to see alot of fleets with kronk I'm them in amagi, is this some strange amagi tech or just free wins

neon bronze
#

free wins

sand apex
#

Ok ill try building her then

#

Until shes ready helena is the best replacement?

neon bronze
#

yeah, helena's fine. if her radar scan procs

#

good survivability as well

sand apex
#

Cool ty

#

I adjusted to this temporarily

spiral owl
#

tbf unicorn is pretty nice as long as no anchorage, she's basically the noob killer on lil e

high coral
#

Whats the best fleet I can make for pvp and do I use it for attacking and defense?

#

This is what I've been using

stable dawn
#

check the pinned spreadsheet from SaltyArrow

#

it has a lot of good fleet comps and gear setups

neon bronze
#

Defense fleet, put whatever you want on them.

honest moon
#

Defense doesn't really matter

fickle echo
#

Hey guys, is Shimanto good in pvp?

neon bronze
#

yes

#

She is Shima substitute we needed

fickle echo
stable dawn
#

shima 2???

lusty hill
#

shimanto will have invincibility buff for the entire vanguard when the battle starts and drop 2 torps preload exactly after the buff ends

uncut agate
#

ijn harbin

lusty hill
#

oh shit I forgot she's not UR

fickle echo
#

Serenity only likes UR ships smh

candid sluice
#

rainbow good

winged depot
winged depot
#

that's pretty standard

sand apex
#

But funny

neon bronze
#

and cute!!!

lusty hill
#

full oathed fleet scary

tacit owl
#

Shima beats this

neon bronze
#

funny versus funny

rustic bridge
#

Kids mobbing lets go

fickle echo
#

SaltyBelfast appeared MutsukiHyperStare

rustic bridge
#

I eat Childs

lusty hill
ember parrot
#

How is my fleet? Should I replace Agir with Noshiro?

fickle echo
#

Agir+Aquila won't do anything in the current meta

floral wave
#

duca

#

i see letan influence

rustic bridge
#

Blessex my best fleet

#

.... Back Line will Not shoot

marsh sand
empty mesa
#

They are too afraid of Enty.

marsh sand
rustic bridge
#

I eat enty

empty mesa
#

Lies.

neon bronze
floral wave
neon bronze
#

No more Aegir shill except if they wanna try Seydlitz

empty mesa
#

He left? pausechamp

neon bronze
#

Yes, he did

#

i did say it, but deleted afterward because πŸ¦—

empty mesa
#

Poor guy. Transphobes got to him.

neon bronze
fickle echo
neon bronze
#

a good chunk of what i delete isn't really relevant to current discussion tbh

floral wave
#

just like quyet videos

fickle echo
floral wave
#

wait

#

he deleted his acc ingame?

empty mesa
#

Maybe renamed.

neon bronze
#

Rename most likely

#

Uid leak.

fickle echo
neon bronze
#

fair enough YukiPat

ember parrot
fickle echo
empty mesa
#

πŸ’€

valid oxide
#

Duca ShiSleep

stable dawn
deft escarp
deft escarp
scenic tendon
#

and too lazy to raise Hiryuu

#

unless she has +1 rld tech then I'd do it

deft escarp
#

You're just free food then lol

scenic tendon
#

just use typical 3 bbs

scenic tendon
#

just some is harder to eat

#

btw is there anyway to make my Juneau die faster?

deft escarp
#

Just use boiler+gyro

candid sluice
#

is it really free if you have to work for it?

merry vale
#

You guys do more than just click the button once?

fickle echo
#

Fluffy is back MutsukiHyperStare

tawny parcel
#

these things are one time only?

fickle echo
#

Yes, all of them

tawny parcel
#

which means the next reset will disappear forever?

fickle echo
#

No, if you don't buy them now you can still do so next month

tawny parcel
#

i bought all of them and finished their questlines

fickle echo
#

Once you complete them all you won't get more until the devs decide to add more

trail temple
#

OpSi talk in this unholy den of degenerate PvP

honest moon
#

Anyone ever experience a game freeze mid exercise... and you find one of your smacks wasted when you reload the game?

neon bronze
#

game mid-buffering, and after it ends, "0" points gained

#

gotta log in to see actual point

stable dawn
neon bronze
#

i did have matches end becaose of battery power

#

at least they didn't register

valid oxide
glossy meteor
#

yo guys i need some help against a sey, nj, musashi, anch, shima, juneau
comp

floral wave
#

whats there that needs help

#

its not really an amazing comp

glossy meteor
#

idk i keep losing

#

i am using decent team
but after 30s 2 of my backline is dead and atleast 1 vanguard
i am using a aqulila, nj, warspite, ancho, shima , juneau

floral wave
#

gear issue and/or ships issue

glossy meteor
#

i know my gear isn't optimal but it should be decent

floral wave
#

if after 30sec your backline is dead while using juneau

#

it means juneau isnt dying fast enough

glossy meteor
#

ok after 30 seconds on this run
only aquila is alive
and i only killed their nj and damaged the rest

floral wave
#

best idea would be to post your gear tbh

glossy meteor
#

how should i do that?

floral wave
#

just screenshot the ships on gear or main page

#

and send here

fickle echo
#

Warspite is too slow for the current meta, she can only really do damage to 1 ship at the time and she takes too much damage back to be able to kill a 2nd one

glossy meteor
#

well i can use vv

#

ok this is my team set up
gear isn't optimal but should be sufficient

fickle echo
#

+0 gear Ehhssex

glossy meteor
glossy meteor
pseudo copper
#

+0 gear and is subpar at best Tired

glossy meteor
#

but shouldn't this be sufficient for what i am going against?

pseudo copper
#

No

glossy meteor
#

srsly

lusty hill
#

Replace warspite

floral wave
#

if their gear is good then no

glossy meteor
lusty hill
#

Replace warspite and aquila with musashi and fdg

pseudo copper
glossy meteor
#

yes my gear is bad i understand that well

#

but my musashi is only 100 and fdg is 115

neon bronze
glossy meteor
pseudo copper
#

No, he's older than me or same age

floral wave
floral wave
#

oh wait

neon bronze
#

Grind in PvE first FumizukiCross

lusty hill
glossy meteor
#

fine

pseudo copper
#

Yeah, he's at least 9 months older than me Tired

glossy meteor
#

i mean i can check how long i ve been playing for but
i just really don't try to take the game to seriously

pseudo copper
#

To do pvp you need to do pve

glossy meteor
#

oh yeah i remembering again

pseudo copper
#

You can't make up bad gear bc your comp is lacking not to mention +0 gear and subpar gear

#

Then as for ships to replace then should replace Warspite and possibly Aquila depending on who you have

glossy meteor
#

i have most ships minus some map specific ones
just musashi and fdg aren't leveled

lusty hill
#

musashi is top priority to raise as she is broken in both pve and pvp

glossy meteor
#

ok ill grind up pve and musashi

pseudo copper
#

Go grind

#

Both opsi and campaign

lusty hill
#

I'm pretty sure you can already use your musashi now to replace warspite and get better performance in pvp

glossy meteor
#

ok
i have been trying to do opsi more

#

srsly

#

she is that much better

#

well ill come back once i cleared out all the pve stuff (maybe)

#

well thanks guys

pseudo copper
#

But still won't solve your issue of gear

glossy meteor
#

is their a reason she is so tanky or its just high hp?

floral wave
#

30% damage reduction

#

and hp

glossy meteor
#

wait she does that?
i gotta read the skills some time

glossy meteor
lusty hill
pseudo copper
#

And grinding to enhance stuff past +0 PepeLa

glossy meteor
#

i am lazy it is a flaw
well imma go for now

#

nice seeing you again Deathkt

pseudo copper
stable dawn
delicate mango
valid oxide
#

I give up on PvP again Portdoll

#

I lost 1 and reset ate 3 more because I didn't keep track of time

#

What a shame

tacit owl
#

I have 0 seasons where I didn't overcapCheshSmug

#

this season can't make it 1 anymore

hollow walrus
#

I gave up after I overcapped 2 whole days PortDoll

valid oxide
#

It was doing alright for a change and I fucked it up by forgetting to use attempts before reset Portdoll

empty mesa
valid oxide
#

At least he was open for suggestion

#

Unlike a certain saltyBelfast

deft escarp
#

Ye

#

I thought he was straight up trolling with the +0 gear there

glossy meteor
#

Is dumb I know

valid oxide
#

I don't do PvP well enough so I give up a few days into the season rather often

deft escarp
#

You also got oil to burn for coins in 13-4

glossy meteor
#

Ya

#

I'll start making a decent pve team set up first

placid cave
#

Why are tea torps recommended for pvp? And what are the differences compared to 533mm mark 34?

tacit fox
#

533mm is homing but has less dmg

trail temple
#

If people are consistently having trouble sandbagging, why sandbag at all?

cedar herald
#

Nearly my turn for haircut but got pvp reset /panik

lusty hill
#

sigma grindset: don't let your life and appointment ruin your pvp career

stable dawn
#

you guys grind pvp???

scenic tendon
#

no?

#

who even do that

#

lmao

lusty hill
#

I do pvp for a living

scenic tendon
steel coral
winged depot
#

lol

lusty hill
cedar herald
#

Haircut ended 1min before reset, i proceeded to lose 5 times

#

This is a disaster

neon bronze
delicate mango
brazen socket
#

Could I still get aotn even if I don't hardbag daily? 1st wave of pvp tries is like 12 / 3 am in my times

winged depot
#

can still be aotn eos with a healthy sleep schedule

pseudo copper
candid sluice
sturdy kraken
#

gg I just missed 5 exercises

#

I was having a good run

stable dawn
#

it's early season, why are you moving so late?

neon bronze
#

Two guys already died

sturdy kraken
#

yeah that's it

#

this week I'm done

#

I should set alarms

fickle echo
stable dawn
#

LE is a different gamemode

neon bronze
#

dw it'll become deader as more players play there

sturdy kraken
#

I started off the week good arrgh

#

got a 36 pt

#

for my first

neon bronze
#

Next time

pseudo copper
deft escarp
lusty hill
#

Alarms MutsukiHyperStare

scenic tendon
fickle echo
#

If Chise gets a module that makes her stronger than Aquila is @light crystal finally gonna drop mafia? EssexShock

light crystal
#

Seems to work somwhow so I'm rolling with it lol

fickle echo
#

@stable dawn This is a historical moment, the death of mafia EssexShock

empty mesa
#

Mafia with Aya? zoomga

light crystal
#

Sir, we're going for waifu gaming over here.

stable dawn
brazen socket
#

wow finally second gold burn to slap on harbin so I don't have to swap between her and agir

fickle echo
brazen socket
#

Probably maybee

#

This meta fight has given me an excuse to not slap manjuu toolbox on helena and it goes on for 1 more month

fickle echo
#

Just use a Manjuuless fleet, a lot of people on top Lexi ladder use that Ehhssex

vale cobalt
#

So you’re telling me this was the Lebron James of Azur Lane all along???

neon bronze
#

give her the basketball named Eagle Union Elite Damage Control and she'll be a crucial part of your pvp* fleet

fickle echo
#

You forgot about the "v" DunktsukiStare

neon bronze
#

:agony:

zenith lantern
lusty hill
junior trench
torpid shuttle
#

so zwei defense beats out the top pvp tierlist fleets on defense?

neon bronze
#

zwei defense fleet is shit if you use a CV

#

i like fighting against it post-Deathkt incident

#

because it meant my Juneau consistently dies when Zwei barrage snags my frontline

torpid shuttle
#

then think ill be able to run MSN well

neon bronze
#

MSN supremacy SumnerWink

pseudo copper
#

Think concern with triple BB is just that it may cause vanguard to lose which lowers consistency of triple BB, though I think is a non-existing problem

stable dawn
#

Shinano just deletes Geryon in one airstrike so it's a non-issue for MSN

late heath
#

Also don’t forget to set Kashino as secretary to improve pvp win rate

fickle echo
#

Zwei in pvp ShiSleep

zenith lantern
lusty hill
#

no gun Seydlitz Ehhssex

floral wave
#

no no-gun uvh either TorricelliSad

delicate mango
brazen socket
#

What about no gun hiryuu

neon bronze
#

tf is Aldarn running with success against Lexi fleets

candid sluice
#

real pvpers use no torp shima

gaunt sparrow
#

Would a level 120 NJ be more valuable than a level 125 Hiryuu?

zenith lantern
neon bronze
#

how is no gun tech faring well

stable dawn
zenith lantern
#

Just try it, and pray you don't run into L'indomptable when you're trying moving late because those can be some long fights

brazen socket
#

is no gun musashi really that good that its even worth to drop enhanced barrage?

neon bronze
#

the amagi one, that is

brazen socket
pseudo copper
brazen socket
#

ihhh

echo grove
#

Can someone help with fleet building? I struggle at it, and want it to be based more on waifus WarZoom

valid oxide
#

Better hope anchorage is your waifu then BuckyPrideAnim

zenith lantern
#

^^^

echo grove
zenith lantern
#

Who do you want to use?

echo grove
#

Well... Odin, Roon, Noshiro and Friedrich

zenith lantern
#

Well Noshiro and FDG are good at least

stable dawn
#

a new Kenny?

echo grove
#

I don't possess any knowledge of which ships are good for pvp and stuff

stable dawn
zenith lantern
#

There's a document in the pins that lists the good ships

#

But you won't find too many KMS on there I'm afraid

echo grove
zenith lantern
#

The good pvp ships are mostly IJN and USS

echo grove
#

Shoot, USS faction is my least favorite

tacit owl
echo grove
#

How unexpected that UR ships are top tier, but there one problem

#

Tiniest slightest problem

#

Most of them aren't in my taste

zenith lantern
#

Well you have to choose

#

You can run your Waifus but don't expect it to be good

echo grove
#

Yeah I see it already by looking at the tier list

zenith lantern
#

Not every ship is good for pvp so if your tastes and what's good don't overlap then you're out of luck

echo grove
#

I wonder why Noshiro and Harbin aren't put together in the fleet

zenith lantern
#

Anchorage is essential and Shimakaze near essential so they are both fighting over a single spot

#

People without Shimakaze can and do run both though

echo grove
#

Oh

#

Then maybe I do have some luck since I like Harbin

trail temple
#

When the pvp spreadsheet becomes a PsyOp operation to screw over the PvP scene for the benefit of a few, we'll add no gun Musashi

stable dawn
#

on that day, Bismarck Zwei becomes T0, Yukikaze replaces Shimakaze as the best DD, Anchorage is dropped in favor of Jervis, and manjuu becomes the Best in Slot aux equip on NJ

#

oh yeah and mafia will dominate all other pvp comps

delicate mango
fickle echo
#

You don't need Anchorage, you can just use ||Fairy Magic Avrora||

empty mesa
#

Lexi strats are out of control.

empty mesa
#

2581 is R7? You sure it's not Washi?

empty mesa
#

πŸ’€

stable dawn
#

envy top 10

empty mesa
#

Too lazy to search mine.

fickle echo
#

Now that I think about it Plasma overcapped 4 seasons in a row EssexShock

stable dawn
#

nikke player now

empty mesa
fickle echo
#

I'm a Lil Enty player now, only try EoS on Lexi if I'm having luck until the last set PortDoll

stable dawn
#

is that because you can't take #1 from Aldarn?

fickle echo
#

I even started this season barely trying Ehhssex

#

Only started trying on the last 3 days

stable dawn
#

it's a tie so technically Aldarn outbagged you

lusty agate
#

Is zwei on fraudwatch

fickle echo
#

I had a higher pace than him at the start of the set but Lexi always tries to screw me so I just give up sometimes

stable dawn
#

should've used mafia

fickle echo
#

Last season I took a 9 when I had 5 refreshes left and had the leading pace Ehhssex

#

Then when I started having a good EoS climbing on LE I gave up on Lexi

stable dawn
fickle echo
zenith lantern
pseudo copper
deft escarp
neon bronze
#

tf i can't log in on my acc in emulator EssexShock

brazen socket
neon bronze
brazen socket
neon bronze
#

ah, i see

#

but with my twitter alt for Lil E... please don't tell me i need to use yostar bound service for shit PortDoll

hollow walrus
neon bronze
deft escarp
neon bronze
lusty hill
#

pvp strategy: make your opponent lose their account

stable dawn
#

did you use one account per server instead of just logging in on all servers on the same account?

neon bronze
#

normally that isn't a problem because i usually had my phone next to me

#

but today, it's not the case TorricelliSad

deft escarp
fickle echo
candid sluice
#

doesnt tos prohibit multiple accounts Ehhssex

lusty hill
neon bronze
#

i tried to multiacc Lil E

#

failed

uncut agate
stable dawn
trail temple
#

SHAMELESS

pseudo copper
#

Does this mean Beth goes on wall of shame?

merry vale
neon bronze
#

i don't play on there though. not anymore

glad mesa
#

Hello all, I am getting back into the game after a 4 year hiatus. I played throughout the first year, and I was approaching having a "complete" pvp fleet, ie max everything.

Now that I'm returning I'm quickly realizing that my stuff is not anywhere near relevant, no surprise, so anyways, as I'm learning about new mechanics and stuff, I am wondering what I should be grinding towards?

This is what I have, yes Im aware that amagi synergizes with IJN but i wanna do twin IJN carriers + amagi at some point, even if just for fun

#

Before ships like hood and enty were best in slot but now the sheer firepower of enti + hood probably is outclassed by the hyper-accurate abilities. Ive run into homing torps, planes, perfectly accurate death rays, im assuming thats the stuff thats good for pvp?

trail temple
#

Well, it's no different from before when Amagi and Nagato were event locked

#

Depending on how recent you started playing again, you may have gotten lucky and snagged NJ

glad mesa
trail temple
# glad mesa Thanks so much!

Np, the budget fleets are honestly copium but better than nothing. If you can get yourself Anchorage as a priority, you'll at least have one of the staple ships

glad mesa
#

It seems like its just the same 5 ships on both vanguard and main, and if theyre all event locked, what would you recommend doing?

trail temple
#

As far as commonality goes:
NJ, Musashi, Anchorage and Shimakaze are the common elements in most meta fleets. The last slot for each varies.
Anchorage, Juneau and Harbin are all permanently available.
Lacking Shimakaze, you can use Harbin, Noshiro, ykkz and Ayanami instead
Backline is where it is an issue. You could probably try FDG, but she needs to be FS5 from experience.
Warspite kai can be used in a pinch. I haven't tried using her for a long time now but before I replaced her, it was difficult to get snipes with her.
Enterprise could probably still carry you if the other team doesn't reveal her. Just don't assume she'll be as effective on defence.

glad mesa
#

(Also missing 229 tech points for anchorage)

trail temple
#

USS ships are quite abundant that you can easily get the tech points

glad mesa
#

Sure its just gonna take me leveling up and breaking them

#

So... time

trail temple
#

Depends on how efficient you want to grind. I'm probably somewhat cheating because I know what I need, but when I was levelling up my Amagi alt it probably took me about 2 weeks from scratch to get the required fleet tech for Anchorage

glad mesa
#

Is the best way just taking random us shit and throwing them in dorm and doing xp commissions?

trail temple
#

Bit of everything, throw some in the dorm, throw some in comms and level the rest. Can also use exp books if you got them

glad mesa
#

Oh ye

#

Ok so grind anchorage and harbin. When you're talking about juneau you dont mean the rare one right?

glad mesa
#

Woah why is it good?

trail temple
#

She has a retrofit now

trail temple
#

She can heal any ship that's still alive for 25% of their max HP

glad mesa
#

Huh

trail temple
#

When she dies

hidden robin
glad mesa
#

Ok well that will take me all of about 15 minutes to set up

whole salmon
#

Tbh

#

If you have been gone for 4 years

#

Catch up on other content first

glad mesa
#

I am. I slowly am. But i want to make sure my time isnt wasted

whole salmon
#

Like OPSI and other campaign stages

trail temple
hidden robin
#

gotta do oopsie for gold and rainbow plates

pseudo copper
#

Most importantly gear Sleepnano

hidden robin
#

do u guys think Anchorage is better with a gold AP gun or Drake gun? (the latter seems to have worse spread)

valid oxide
#

Drake gun is the best CA gun by a mile

hidden robin
#

AP gun can penetrate though

fickle echo
#

Rainbow good BuckyPrideZoom

candid sluice
#

just use no gun anchorage

neon bronze
#

Either is fine

#

I do like bigger fleet power

#

Too bad I don't really wanna go into PR3 for Drake gun

fickle echo
#

Prototype shop exists Ehhssex

neon bronze
#

Saving for Plygun

valid oxide
#

You only ever need 1 drake gun anyway so just protocore it

fickle echo
stable dawn
neon bronze
#

🐌

#

fine i'll just swap to PR3 to get the rest

fickle echo
#

Meanwhile I already have it on LE BuckyPrideZoom

neon bronze
#

there now

#

looks like i didn't even need to touch PR3 research

stable dawn
coral wren
#

@rustic bridge hi

deft escarp
honest moon
#

Rainbow aa gun> sextuple bofors on any AA carry?

floral wave
#

no

junior trench
#

Does Tamaki want a shelling gun or a barrage gun?

floral wave
#

rainbow on anything except aa carry > bofors

floral wave
junior trench
#

Ok

floral wave
#

and the choice ends at either 457 or mk4

#

okay nvm, i lied, bbs with semi preload are fine with triples, but nobody uses them anymore WarShrug

neon bronze
#

Seyd, VV

#

yeah, true.

#

gah damn i'm missing both purple and gold auxes for gear πŸ˜”

floral wave
#

if you mention vv might aswell mention amagi

neon bronze
#

who>?

#

oh, ic. forgot my server matron AmagiKoff

trail temple
#

I am running the semen fleet atm

#

It's not bad

honest moon
#

Hi running the semen fleet atm! I am troll!

neon bronze
#

Cum fleet

stable dawn
lusty hill
#

where does the ME in Musashi came from Wotspite

meager oak
#

needed to hamfist the nickname in

trail temple
#

It would have been SEMN, and it sounded close enough

#

If you're gonna name something, make it memorable

empty mesa
#

Should've named SMHN

honest moon
#

Rainbow aa or bofors on anchor?

honest moon
flint python
#

rainbow aa

glad mesa
#

Ok so I have a good idea of the vanguard ships I need to work towards for pvp, but given that all the good main fleet ships are event-locked... what would people recommend doing?

delicate mango
#

Just use Mafia

zenith lantern
#

Hiryuu and FDG are top 5 PvP main fleet and both available so I'd start with those

honest moon
#

The one and only context I would say MILF (NJ FDG Musashi) works.

#

With sustain vanguard

#

Aside from that, not into MILFs. Give me some SYTs

glad mesa
#

Do you just grind chapter 3-3 for hiryu?

honest moon
#

No other way

flint python
#

just 1:1 that map till get 1 drop

neon bronze
#

but if you don't have hiryuj yet at your stage of the game, then 1:1 it

honest moon
#

Haven't gotten second fox lol

neon bronze
honest moon
#

Red fox yes blue fox no

neon bronze
#

Yku're not missing much on one fox

honest moon
#

Meh just collection

neon bronze
#

Will ||Kearsarge|| be good in PvP?

stable dawn
#

is essex good in pvp?

neon bronze
lusty hill
#

I hope you're saying shit cuz I don't want this how I found out if they announced new ship

neon bronze
#

Long San Yuan Blessex

candid sluice
#

cringe

lusty hill
#

I think BBV would be cool in pvp

#

It's like having NJ and shinano in one ship

stable dawn
#

NJ's lack of damage reduction and Shinano's slow launch speed

lusty hill
#

Having both of them in one ship is advantage

#

Imagine having two anchorage in one anchorage

stable dawn
#

just put manjuu on anchorage. Now you have 2 anchorage.

honest moon
#

did they just announce another...

#

after DR

trail temple
#

I named it

honest moon
#

i see

#

they say never meet your heroes.. well so much for that. nice conventions in naming. particularly like hiryu nj musashi

stable dawn
#

we're heroes now???

trail temple
#

I'll accept the compliment

trail temple
honest moon
lusty hill
#

yeah I just saw it on reddit PortDoll

stable dawn
honest moon
#

you just had to get me started

stable dawn
candid sluice
#

the avengers of azur lane pvp

honest moon
#

so who's black widow?

stable dawn
#

Letan

lusty hill
#

lol

scenic tendon
#

just borrow an account to try MSN

#

man, Shima with 533 torp + mag is somewhat I always dream of