pvp

[floral wave]

i thought you meant UR french

[azure swan]

quint mag always bad

[valid oxide]

Or you could use UR french

[floral wave]

quad magnetic

[azure swan]

quad mag is much better

[floral wave]

and quint mag rainbow

[azure swan]

yes

[autumn quest]

So sextuple was quad?

[azure swan]

no sextuple is aa gun

[floral wave]

6 doesnt equal 4

[autumn quest]

Ik hence why I was confused we were taking about torp lol

[valid oxide]

It scares me how many gold quint mags you have maxed though

[autumn quest]

I was looking for it everywhere

[valid oxide]

Gold quint mag 🚮

[autumn quest]

Newbie mistakes

[valid oxide]

Scrap them

[floral wave]

yeah torps is just UR quint mag or gold quad mag

[valid oxide]

Or blacktorp + teatorp

[autumn quest]

Any quad gold?

[floral wave]

or teatorps but not really for your team

i can see at least one quad gold +10

on that screenshot

[valid oxide]

By the looks of it you have like 2 gold quads

[autumn quest]

The one on chesh?

[floral wave]

yeah

[autumn quest]

I got 2 indeed

[valid oxide]

You also got one on sanrui

[autumn quest]

Do quin also suck in pve?

[floral wave]

yeah you usually want quads

the only exception is rainbow quint

[valid oxide]

Unless it's tea-torps or rainbow mag

Shima event quint 🚮

[floral wave]

yeah i assumed were talking about mag torps

[autumn quest]

Time to delete every quint then except maybe 1 or 2

[floral wave]

i mean, save some, theyre still better than no torps

just in case

[autumn quest]

That one good?

@floral wave

[floral wave]

nah

only magnetic ones

[autumn quest]

[floral wave]

all non magnetic ones require manualing

[autumn quest]

Purple one works ?

[floral wave]

or have too high spread to work in pvp

except teatorps

hm

tbh idk if purple quad is better than gold quint

[autumn quest]

What about gold vs purple quad mag ?

Is it a good alternative

If no ig time to craft

[floral wave]

gold quads wont be a waste anyway

because thats your default torps for almost everything ingame

[autumn quest]

Ig I can just delete all quint

[floral wave]

nice

[autumn quest]

Lmao

I wasted so much coins

Thx for the help

[floral wave]

np

[neon bronze]

teach him how to overcap

[lavish wadi]

is this comp worth it (from Little Enty server)?

[floral wave]

thats as good as it gets

could use juneau maybe

but this ones solid

[hollow walrus]

First time reaching Admiral

[candid sluice]

congrats

[valid oxide]

Who is the most annoying oathed ship to play against between Juneau hiryuu ancho Aya or fdg?

[wicked surge]

Anchorage easily

[trail temple]

Nothing stands out tbh

[crude jetty]

Is it worth to use WNT in Mafia fleet?

[stable dawn]

no

WNT is mostly for slow comps like MSN and Meeb

mafia is also super old

so you're better off running something else

[crude jetty]

I cant

Do not have Musashi

also no fdj

[stable dawn]

fdg is permanent content, play at your own pace

[rare umbra]

bruh is there a way to beat those meta fleets?

[empty mesa]

Use meta fleet yourself.

[rare umbra]

oh so meta to meta and pray?

[empty mesa]

You have attacker advantage, so you win in most cases.

[rare umbra]

hmm i see..

[stable dawn]

yeah attacker advantage is 20% damage reduction iirc

[pseudo copper]

It is

[severe spindle]

If i put pearl tear with juneau, it works r?

i dont see it being recommended on the tierlist of pvp fleet

[little bobcat]

because it's kind of a waste

pearl is better put on your middle dd

pearl and juneau work together but it's kinda dumb

[severe spindle]

Ok, thx

[sour oasis]

Attacker advantage means nothing if you're not as powered up, or if torpedoes unluckily nuke you

[floral wave]

its enough if youre using a half decent fleet

[neon bronze]

Use meta fleet.

Still lose againt other meta fleets

[floral wave]

skill issur

e

wait, i forgor saying that is too toxic

[stable dawn]

pvp is a toxic gamemode

[candid olive]

Wow, what a lineup I came across... #goals

Is this gud?

[winged depot]

its not since its not geared

[little bobcat]

streign has a good fleet iirc

but his ships aren't geared

[pseudo copper]

No gear means bad comp

[lusty hill]

Why would someone not gear their fleet

[trail temple]

Or all the attacker's torp go for Nagato but she dodges all of them

[trail temple]

They don't care?

[little bobcat]

they're prob not doing this season

[lusty hill]

Put British mag and blue gun on shimakaze and that's still a strong fleet

[little bobcat]

hymen kinda easy to beat tbh

but i haven't fought a fully optimized hymen yet

so

can't really say for sure

[lusty hill]

Full oathed fleet is incredibly hard to beat if you don't have shimakaze

[little bobcat]

[pseudo copper]

[sour oasis]

Just buy more rings

[winged depot]

just turn on hacks

[neon bronze]

if properly geared and on attack, really good
in defense, that fleet is okay. But some of my more worrisome matches involved fighting geared HyMEN fleets

[candid olive]

What's a HyMEN fleet?

[neon bronze]

abbreviation for HirYuu - Musashi - (e)New jersey

[trail temple]

You haven't learnt the ways of FlaccidTorp and Gorrillaz

Neither has Shimakaze but do fine

[neon bronze]

:susge:

[candid olive]

Ohhh... I see. Thanks! I don't have any of those ships...

[neon bronze]

Hiryuu is permanent content, can farm her as early as 3-1 to 3-3
New Jersey rerun should be soon within this year
And Friedrich der Grosse is a workable substitute.

[candid olive]

Ooo... I have FdG... currently leveling her and her dev lvl.

And I do have Hiryuu (low lvl). Didn't know she was good in pvp till I read her first skill. She works kind of like Juneau?

[neon bronze]

Juneau heals a big chunk of your ships' health
Hiryuu on the other hand, if she's about to sink from any source, her skill Final Counter will proc; invulnerability for 15 seconds and launch an airstrike.

they differ

[tranquil badge]

Full oathed fleet is incredibly hard to beat if you don't have shimakaze
Man he would be in for a shock if he saw my full oathed fleet

[fickle echo]

[winged depot]

[pseudo copper]

I can't beat that

I guess you saved me from doing pvp at all smh

[fickle echo]

Based 0 exercises

[pseudo copper]

[stable dawn]

the most ethical pvper of all

[candid sluice]

the pacifist pvper

[lusty hill]

No 1

Could've been higher score but I lost twice this season

[gritty quiver]

is fdg fs5 btr than warkai for pvp? currently running sushi warkai and aquila

vanguard is temporarily ancho aya and poi

aya has ur quint

[neon bronze]

yes, she's kind of NJ copium

[gritty quiver]

time to burn down them oathed fleets

[neon bronze]

can also use hiryuu 👍

[gritty quiver]

hiryuu? whats that? lunch?

[trail temple]

Might as well use Meeb at that point

[gritty quiver]

i hate having fights that end when i graduate from school so no meeb for me

if i can get the kill in 15s why wait for centuries

also i currently have juneau at the bottom of my waitlist so its not happening at least for another half a year

[floral wave]

btw some descriptions in the doc might be misleading, unless im reading it wrong
seydlitz doesnt need another ib ship for the preload, and it seems like she does in SEMEN and agir(for SEMEN and MKUltra) descriptions

[neon bronze]

i love recreating truck-kun damage in isekai series with Meeb comp

[neon bronze]

also. wtf is SEMEN

[gritty quiver]

just nuke with 356 sushi

[floral wave]

check the doc

[hollow walrus]

hold on some of the fleets got updated names

[trail temple]

Se(ydlitz) M(usashi) e N(ew Jersey)

[neon bronze]

wait how the fuck are 3 BB fleet compositions dominating T0

[floral wave]

cv enojyers in shambles

[neon bronze]

while the 2 BB 1 CV comps and Meeb got demoted to T1

[candid sluice]

New meta

[stable dawn]

Should be fixed now

[lusty hill]

3 BB have advantage that if enemy vanguard kill your vanguard they can kill them with aux gun

[stable dawn]

Well it turns out 3BB > 2BB

[neon bronze]

hm, i do agree with 3 BB (def) putting good pressure on my Meeb (atk)

with players like Nagato guy using SEMEN (though his Seyd is flag), and Ajuk (same as Nagato guy, but Vanguard instead of NJ)

[floral wave]

if you have 3 bbs and enemy kills your vanguard youre doing something wrong

[neon bronze]

even lost to Ajuk once iirc

[stable dawn]

dude that guy's fleet is nutty

might actually copy it for my main

[candid sluice]

The council has spoken, 3bb good

[floral wave]

also these days we have bb secondary guns that can reach enemy vanguard even before your own is dead

[neon bronze]

speaking of BB secondary guns, +13 twin 137, or +10 plygun?

[lusty hill]

what gun is that

[floral wave]

neither

[lusty hill]

harbin gun?

[floral wave]

well i dropped 137s for 130s

rate of fire wins

[stable dawn]

but AP penetrates

[floral wave]

it needs to hit first

[stable dawn]

also 137 has faster projectile speed

[floral wave]

idk i tried both and liked harbong guns more

it does, but it still misses often

i just like the "spam shitton of bullets, some will hit" approach more

but i guess depends on what you prefer

[neon bronze]

what fleet u using rn in amagae @floral wave

[stable dawn]

one thing I've been considering is whether to just drop the AA gun on Seydlitz just for another secondary

[floral wave]

i thought about it aswell

but didnt test

also shell lose HIT

[stable dawn]

but you get a second secondary

[floral wave]

and thats more concerning than the actual aa loss

yeah but if your 460 misses ...

[stable dawn]

well, same as if your shima torps do nothing

just reset the fight

[floral wave]

seyd fdg sushi/ancho harbin juneau

[stable dawn]

[floral wave]

please

[neon bronze]

idk abt it, champ... when the 2nd aux/aa gun slot only has 70% efficiency

[floral wave]

idk, maybe the second aux gun worth

[neon bronze]

on seydlitz

[stable dawn]

AA gun is also low efficiency

[floral wave]

i still prefer hit from staag

[floral wave]

used ancho agir harbin but had to switch when i met kirito

[stable dawn]

this is a real power move tho

[floral wave]

[stable dawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/974735275915886612/1098347481357631629/image.png

[trail temple]

It's the only move you should make

[floral wave]

id rather wnt the fdg

[stable dawn]

fairy magic tho

[floral wave]

yeah that for seyd

[trail temple]

Yeah... no stryk

[neon bronze]

that's one of the better gear recs for her now? or is the 2nd aux/AA gun slot still in debate or personal pref?

[stable dawn]

I prefer WNT on seyd because she's the squishiest out of the 3 backliners

so might as well balance them out

[floral wave]

well she takes % of fdgs damage anyway

[zenith lantern]

Which is why I don't like to run her with FDG. Seydlitz isn't a tank.

[trail temple]

Mk special

[stable dawn]

MK Ultra

[floral wave]

i wouldnt if i had the choice

soonTM

[zenith lantern]

Bring back the 313 Aquila tech

[neon bronze]

NJ rerun.

[stable dawn]

I thought it was 818

[zenith lantern]

Maybe it is

I just woke up

[stable dawn]

so one thing I've seriously been considering is just dropping pearl on Shima and using it on Harbin instead

with Shima using Wirbel Luft or something

My Harbin pretty much always dies before Shima does

so might as well capitalize on it

[floral wave]

btw i recall seeing mentions about ancho manjuu+goldburn, was that any useful against anything in particular?

[stable dawn]

too slow tbh

and iirc it was only to mess with Musashi barrage

[floral wave]

so basically 38 rld not enough to make a difference

[stable dawn]

yeah you're better off just stacking speed

zoom zoom

[floral wave]

double kicks

[neon bronze]

all this double kicks and i'm not even sure if amagi also ran passionate polaris

[floral wave]

ive got 2

[neon bronze]

wtf, give

[floral wave]

also im not even using double kicks

because i wouldnt have anyone to use manjuu on

or maybe thats the real move

[zenith lantern]

You could run Manjuu+Kicks on Ancho

[stable dawn]

literally what I run lol

[floral wave]

yeah ive been running that all the time

[neon bronze]

that, but i don't like how these gears i only have at +10... 😭

[stable dawn]

still cheaper than getting 3 Wyverns to +13

[neon bronze]

too broke for gold plates in general, is it even worth it to +13 frontline ship auxes?

[stable dawn]

absolutely

[zenith lantern]

I think double kicks is overkill most of the time though. Unless you're running Agir. I have Kicks on Ancho and Agir has Kicks and Boiler

[floral wave]

i still need to upgrade some gear before i can run agir

[zenith lantern]

She's surprisingly effective despite what people say

[floral wave]

and again without a shima its kinda ehh

yeah ive used her

[zenith lantern]

Unlike the smaller ships she can tank BB auxes a bit

[neon bronze]

hmm, quad mag on aegir is fine on her? that should sync with 460 seydlitz salvos, right?

[floral wave]

but had to switch to juneau offtank against kirito so i thought ill pass on using agir for now

[zenith lantern]

I don't try to sync her torps, I just run rainbow mags

[floral wave]

you just try to sync preload which needs no syncing

[zenith lantern]

By the time Seydlitz fires a second time there's not likely to be anything that moves to shoot at anyway so the slow doesn't matter

[stable dawn]

seydlitz's second shot is basically just a finisher at that point

https://tenor.com/view/ko-gif-22203392

[neon bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/finish-him-fatality-gif-15173221

this meta shift is pretty nuts. damn

[stable dawn]

it almost happened back during Zoomer actually

I ran triple BB for a few seasons to pretty great success

[empty mesa]

Thanks, guys. I am switching to Seyd/Agir fleet today.

[stable dawn]

just use FdG smh

[empty mesa]

So true. Gotta use Tier 0 fleets like experts suggest.

[stable dawn]

better than meeb

[lusty hill]

wtf since when the pin updated to all triple BB

no wonder why my fleet sucks now

[floral wave]

youre overreacting

your fleet doesnt become shit upon tierlist update if it wasnt shit before

[lusty hill]

I do notice more people use triple BB which make crash damage isn't that big compared to other fleet

[floral wave]

triple bb has no plane intercept

[lusty hill]

they have higher hp or something

cuz usually my airstrike can oneshot most fleet except yakuza and triple bb

[floral wave]

are all your wyverns +13?

[lusty hill]

doesn't matter I'll use triple bb now and all my skill issue will gone

[floral wave]

[stable dawn]

make sure to stagger your shot timings

[lusty hill]

why do twin 137 better than neptune gun

[floral wave]

range

to be precise, 2 range more

or was it 3

[lusty hill]

is it really makes a difference?

[floral wave]

wheres rumi when you need him

[lusty hill]

rip my ordnance plan

musashi gun

[neon bronze]

it's legit

[floral wave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj47wV9khH0

[neon bronze]

hits ancho beyond her invul

[stable dawn]

nepgun has 2 less range but above all, only does 24x3 damage. The Twin 137mm gun does 18x6 damage and has a much wider angle of fire (360 degrees vs nepgun's 115 degrees).

so theoretically twin 137mm can shoot vanguards that end up behind the backline

[lusty hill]

I see i didn't know about firing angle

[stable dawn]

DD guns are just better

[floral wave]

dd guns with fp+hit when

[stable dawn]

rainbow DD gun soon (tm)?

[floral wave]

inb4 its fp+hit but everything else about the gun is trash

[stable dawn]

actually, if Laffey II is a UR

we could unironically get a rainbow DD gun

[neon bronze]

rainbow speed aux

[stable dawn]

unethical

[floral wave]

rainbow speed aux but usable only by bbs

[stable dawn]

Wait I just realized

[lusty hill]

bb can move with that aux

[stable dawn]

since Kursk exists

we can actually have subs in pvp now

[neon bronze]

who?

[stable dawn]

[floral wave]

now

how do you make her survive first 15s

to summon subs

[stable dawn]

Fairy Magic Poster ofc

[floral wave]

we need russian manjuu

[lusty hill]

rainbow manjuu usable to any faction

[floral wave]

ayo thats cheating

[stable dawn]

manjuu Musashi

[floral wave]

double manjuu enty

rip saltybelfast

[stable dawn]

manjuu shima

[zenith lantern]

I ran into my first manjuu Enty on Little Enty server last night

[floral wave]

i saw one few days ago

[lusty hill]

why is juneau isn't on the mkultra fleet?

[neon bronze]

i've tested that. insufficient pressure against opponent frontline with her on the fleet. better to run aggro frontline, or a frontline with aegir of all ships

go ancho - aegir - harbin, since you don't have shima. speed issue though, i'd slap at least two boilers

ancho - aya retro - harbin also fine

[lusty hill]

I don't have the gear for harbin

is WNT still best for seydlitz even if she's not flagship?

[fickle echo]

3BB needs to kill the vanguard fast, stalling is useless if you keep the enemy carriers hidden

[fickle echo]

It's just for hit and evasion

[rustic bridge]

I hate enty

[little bobcat]

enty ez

[rustic bridge]

No

Enty is to strong

[little bobcat]

entybad

[valid oxide]

Enty too ez

[rustic bridge]

2 to ships have survial and i lose

Enty is to op

[valid oxide]

Enty is to ez

[rustic bridge]

No

[valid oxide]

Yes

[rustic bridge]

Nooo

[valid oxide]

Yeees

[uncut agate]

no

[valid oxide]

Yes

[rustic bridge]

Noin

[valid oxide]

Yeisn

[rustic bridge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/528197562998718474/1005958772272943134/1DCF3134-E9CD-49BE-8D7A-B857E9D68821.gif

No

[valid oxide]

Yes

[rustic bridge]

I need more fleet Power in entys

[fickle echo]

Kenjiii vs SaltyBelfast, true pvp

[rustic bridge]

Enty is OP pasta

[valid oxide]

Enty isn't pasta, enty is burger

[rustic bridge]

She is OP oi

[rustic bridge]

yes

Lucky Nerf then

[valid oxide]

She is EZ oi

[rustic bridge]

No ez

[valid oxide]

Lucky buff then

[rustic bridge]

She kill me easy

Self Lv 10 enty

[valid oxide]

She kill you ez because salty too ez too

[rustic bridge]

She has my best gun

No Chance in enty

PS enty OP

[sweet relic]

people still struggle against Enty?

[rustic bridge]

yes enty PvP ban when

[sweet relic]

there are so many strong PVP ships and that is the one that needs to be banned?

[valid oxide]

Enty ez

[rustic bridge]

No

[valid oxide]

Yes

[rustic bridge]

Never

[valid oxide]

Always

[rustic bridge]

Noo

[valid oxide]

yes

[sweet relic]

She lost her spot in pvp ages ago

[rustic bridge]

Give ne ur Gears

[valid oxide]

Wdym

[rustic bridge]

I can she kill nobur Gears Impossible

[valid oxide]

Salty are you having a stroke

[rustic bridge]

or i need fast Air reloud

[sweet relic]

ye better gear

[valid oxide]

You will never beat even my suboptimal gear salty

[rustic bridge]

ITS a best what i have

[sweet relic]

[rustic bridge]

[valid oxide]

Triple BB

[sweet relic]

It's so tanky

[valid oxide]

I only have oathed mushy and ancho

I should oath hiryuu for more fun annoying comp

[sweet relic]

You could go for Seydlitz instead for full BB

[rustic bridge]

tripleBB

[valid oxide]

I don't have seyd

I don't think I was around for rondo

[sweet relic]

Ah rip

[valid oxide]

NJ rerun soonTM so I can run triple BB

Or hymen

Either or

[rustic bridge]

[sweet relic]

At least you got Seydlitz

[rustic bridge]

Best waifu

Self in Here No Chance in Lv 70enty

[sweet relic]

Pretty fun in 3BB comps

[rustic bridge]

Here old Gear Set up

[valid oxide]

That gun

[rustic bridge]

what

[sweet relic]

[valid oxide]

The maingun 🚮

[rustic bridge]

My old standert ap Main gun

I have No good gears i use all guns

For opsi Farm i m to weak

[valid oxide]

Opsi ez

[sweet relic]

you can do the weaker stages and daily's

[rustic bridge]

To lazzy

[sweet relic]

opsi good

[rustic bridge]

On time littie in Nikke play

[valid oxide]

What is the distance between the 2 mainfleets?

[rustic bridge]

W14 is ez

[sweet relic]

you finished w14?

[rustic bridge]

Yea in this fleets

[sweet relic]

i see

but how do you struggle in opsi

[rustic bridge]

Stronghold and abiter

[sweet relic]

Everything is just auto with 1 fleet

arbiter is 1 fleet manual

2 if auto

[rustic bridge]

I lose all 4 Fights in abiter

[sweet relic]

rip

welp then do all other stuff first for better opsi stats

do opsi > get stuff > make stuff in lab gear > profit in pvp

[frigid hamlet]

Ask a green name

[frigid hamlet]

120

I think, eyeball it with your aa gun range to verify it's about 120

[stable dawn]

where are you getting all these yuki emotes

[sweet relic]

from a guild server

[rustic bridge]

[stable dawn]

[sweet relic]

[winged depot]

[paper perch]

[native sage]

is it a glitch that my main fleet ships cant launch their salvos/ planes toward the end of the battle?

[stable dawn]

it's possible they sank and were midway through their death animation

[native sage]

they still have a chunk of their health

[stable dawn]

can't really say much else without seeing a recording of it in action

[paper perch]

Or no valid targets. Stealthed Cvs/CVLs can't be targeted directly

[stable dawn]

oh GG you didn't reveal the CV

unlucky

[native sage]

ooohhh

forgot about that function of the stealth bar

i only remembered the dmg dealt reduction and dmg received increase part after being revealed

thanks

[cedar herald]

i feel like im going to a shrine with miko's to pay respects

[neon bronze]

firebomb that temple with CVs

[frigid hamlet]

Damage received when hit is the same when revealed and when concealed, it just gets hit less when concealed

[celest bronze]

if i wanted to run implac in pvp for lack of better options is she better off with 2x tb (tenzan kai) or a db (helldiver)

[hollow walrus]

generally you want parallel torps for pvp

[celest bronze]

oh gotcha. barracuda or firecrest?

[lusty hill]

Thank you to the pvp council for the new pin, now I can finally beat a full oathed yakuza

[neon bronze]

huh

what fleet u using

[lusty hill]

Mk ultra now

[neon bronze]

[valid oxide]

The fleet I was trying to do is no longer t0

What a shame

I'll do a cope version of one of the triple BBs then

[neon bronze]

if you can do fdg, think you can get her fs5 in around 73 days iirc (if 10 prints per day)

and i think nj will rerun on around july this year

u already have musashi. together, you can use MILF

[valid oxide]

Is corgi a good enough cope substitute until NJ

[neon bronze]

yes

[valid oxide]

Because I have sushi, fdg is currently d28 and I have corgi

[neon bronze]

can work

[valid oxide]

Does milf want WNT or not?

[neon bronze]

haven't tried 3 BB yet, can't tell

[valid oxide]

In what situation does sushi want twin 410 > 356?

[uncut agate]

when you cope on her main gun hitting a fast moving vanguard

[neon bronze]

use it on an off-flag BB for the EVA + HIT. Any 3 BB combo worth it's salt could survive against at least one Hiryuu + Shinano airstrike without WNT.

[valid oxide]

Ok but like, corgi

Corgi dies if you look at her wrong

My cope fleet to make soonTM then

[wicked surge]

Where is your hiryuu lol

[valid oxide]

This is for my main

I am moving to 3bb

[wicked surge]

[valid oxide]

Il just cope with hiryuu on

[wicked surge]

Isn’t it possible for musashi to oneshot spite

[valid oxide]

Idk

Usually my spite dies to either planes or shima

Sometimes to another copespite

[uncut agate]

no 457 on warspite?

[fickle echo]

Champ gun pvp 2023

[valid oxide]

I don't have 457 or the prerequisite gun

I will have prerequisite soonTM

Might just protocore 457

[stable dawn]

[neon bronze]

Can also wait for New Jersey rerun.

[mystic salmon]

I have an issue auto manages sometimes to somehow miss every torp it uses

[neon bronze]

it do be like that

[worldly wolf]

Hi been ignoring pvp ever since i've started playing but wanna start building ships for it and wanted to ask what ships are good to build for pvp

[pseudo copper]

[neon bronze]

fr fr every discord user should start reading pins

but that's too much to ask from EN players 😔

[rustic bridge]

f you enty

Hate this fucking OP ship

[candid sluice]

me too shes so op

[rustic bridge]

time for fdg

I Hope she can enty kill

[valid oxide]

Fdg actually can kill enty

[rustic bridge]

No my fdg has lose on a lv 80 enty

Fdg is shit

[valid oxide]

Fdg isn't shit it's just your team that is shit

Even my warspite can kill enty

[rustic bridge]

my Team is not shit

[valid oxide]

Show me it

[rustic bridge]

[valid oxide]

I see one good ship in that entire fleet

Also tf is that gun on ply

[rustic bridge]

Ap gun

[valid oxide]

What about nepgun

Or plygun

[rustic bridge]

Have No plym gun

[valid oxide]

Nepgun then

[rustic bridge]

Single what i have is in neptune

[valid oxide]

🚮 fleet ngl

[rustic bridge]

Have München guns

8

[valid oxide]

Even my cope milf fleet is better

[rustic bridge]

my bisco kill your warspite

[valid oxide]

Your fdg is more likely to kill her

[rustic bridge]

i can plym this gun give

[valid oxide]

It's better than what you have on her currently so sure

[rustic bridge]

Or i use she in you

[valid oxide]

My sushi reloads faster

Therefore I win

[candid sluice]

🎣

[valid oxide]

I know it's bait, I simply enjoy the journey on which it takes ne

[fickle echo]

[lusty hill]

Grey gun

[rustic bridge]

Yes only for kenjii

[valid oxide]

Salty is kil

[lusty hill]

Salty belfast how do you dev 30 plymouth? Mine hasn't dev 30

[rustic bridge]

Have haku dev 30 no tenrai

Have a Bad Ur rng

[little bobcat]

the lengths at which you've gone to ruin your account just for a meme is shocking

[glad copper]

💀fyi salty is a troll, no common sense comes out of his mouth

[placid cave]

Is yuudachi and an shan any good in pvp

[pseudo copper]

No

[steel coral]

haters smh

[sudden spoke]

Salty speedrunning another channel ban?

[merry vale]

If only.

He's only been doing this for how long now?

This is the slowest speed run i've seen.

[sudden spoke]

Never underestimate the lengths he will go 😔

Do let us know if he becomes too much

[merry vale]

I mean, i have yet to see him contribute even one useful thing period.

I'd have removed him already.

All i've ever seen is him crying about his shit gear and crying because really easy upgrades require 5 minutes of op siren.

[candid sluice]

we dont mind him

[sudden spoke]

I want to say as long as yall are fine with it. Even if it gives ya a good laugh. Its prob better i do tell him off for it

[candid sluice]

by this standard a lot of people would have been removed already 💀

[sudden spoke]

@rustic bridge Now now Salty. You know what i am about to tell you and you prob wont listen. but don't. kthx

Another hard days work. Time to disappear once more

[pseudo copper]

We like Salty here, best player around

[little bobcat]

only the new people laugh at him

the rest of us are usually just tolerant or slightly annoyed at him

[sudden spoke]

I believe ya. But i have to 😔

[little bobcat]

idm him still being here

but we will let you know if he becomes too much

[candid sluice]

nono let him stay

[merry vale]

New people get suckered into trying to help him.

[sudden spoke]

Poor fools

[merry vale]

[sudden spoke]

Well ig since its less bothersome here than say gph. Ig its tolerable. Not like he is going off on some off topic tangent.

[pseudo copper]

Wdym?

We like him

Smh

Who else will give us top comps?

[little bobcat]

i still need to 120 akagi and kaga

for legendary shinano akaga

[candid sluice]

it takes an innovative mind to come up with new fleets

saltybelfast provides us with that innovation

[little bobcat]

i really do wanna see people innovate more

that's why i wanna meme fleet

[floral wave]

people do innovate, just gotta know where to look for it

[little bobcat]

well yea but im not like

too far into pvp

so i dont know everyone

[paper perch]

No-gun Ulrich

[little bobcat]

also like half of this channel hates me lmfao

[fickle echo]

Leaking the secret Lexi tech smh

[floral wave]

not a leak if you dont explain what it was about

[floral wave]

like 90% pvp population is the same people across all servers

[fickle echo]

The other half probably don't know about you yet

[floral wave]

as in all discord servers

[little bobcat]

exactly

[stable dawn]

smh you guys bullied SaltyBelfast out of pvp

[neon bronze]

i rolled the wrong aotn rusher

[fickle echo]

R.I.P Beth

[rustic bridge]

never

[neon bronze]

did get a +1 though, waiting until reset

[sweet relic]

Akaga sounds so fun to use again, but it requires 4 +13 Wyverns for its full potential

[little bobcat]

for full potential yea

i'm playing it without +13 because i have more priorities rn +13 wise
but it won't really be that long for +13 so

[lusty hill]

No 3

[winged depot]

Did you lose again

[lusty hill]

I lost multiple time cuz of shimakaze and yakuza

Also new triple bb I use sometime make me too late to reset the battle

[little bobcat]

yakuzabad

[lusty hill]

nah yakuza is incredibly strong

my meeb fleet always struggle with yakuza even though I can easily beat other tier 0 before the triple bb update

[little bobcat]

i never struggle with it

[candid sluice]

When did the triple bb update drop?

[neon bronze]

Milf update

[last berry]

I fought someone on le who has flapjacks already xD

[stable dawn]

[lean dock]

how come when am in exercise window and looking for opponents, i find some one with less CP than me but i still loose ?

[hollow walrus]

combat power is a pretty bad way to measure how effective a fleet is

[lean dock]

aint that the whole point of CP?

and if so, how do i find a good opponent ( that i can win against)

[pseudo copper]

No, ship/fleetpower is just a stat to see how much stats the ships have total, unrelated to comps (tells you if gear is equipped though)

[lean dock]

i see

[hollow walrus]

yeah

[winged depot]

New?

[lean dock]

so, how do i pick the people to figth ?, do i have to klick them and see ship lvl compared to CP?

yes, i have played the game for a few weeks

[winged depot]

Ah then, a ship that's levelled 125 can solo a whole fleet of 100s level gap is huge here

[lean dock]

yeah, that i have noticed lol

not doing that again

am at lvl 68 or somf

[winged depot]

Probably someone that has the same level of ships tbh, besides you still get exp/merit even if you lose

[lean dock]

and i dont spend irl money on the game

[hollow walrus]

imo don't really care about pvp wins/rank until you get into opsi at least

[lean dock]

opsi ?

[hollow walrus]

operation siren

[lean dock]

ah am already in ther

ee

ther

[hollow walrus]

a lot of the gears you'll use come from Opsi

[lean dock]

the ones u can craft or gear u loot ?

because i find the gear crafting thingy a bit overwhelming

so many factions and different mats

[floral wave]

its overwhelming until you realize you'll ever craft 4-5 things at most

[winged depot]

This game mode isn't really p2w, its just having the right equipment/ship comps available

[lean dock]

i like that

i see a comment on nagato that its easly abused in pvp. how ?

[floral wave]

i mean youd usually use her with 2 japanese carriers for all the boosts she provides

but nowadays its kinda outdated

you can check the guide in pins

[uncut agate]

are you in the little enterprise server? nagato is pretty good for pvp there

[valid oxide]

Nowadays it's outdated because t0 fleets are all triple BB

I have d30 fdg in a week so I can start triple BB then

I need her fs5 to be good though

[pseudo copper]

I dislike triple BB bc of how slow it is

Amagi still too ez to make consistency a major decision maker so Yakuza my go to still

[neon bronze]

Meeb my bae. Always.

What a bummer, not top of t1. But still good. I stand by it

[left wolf]

does meeb need WNT treaty to be good or does it function well enough without it?

[scenic tendon]

Amagi+medal is actually pretty good for pvping aganist bbs team.

[pseudo copper]

[scenic tendon]

[pseudo copper]

You realise am referring to server and no Amagi dated

[scenic tendon]

noooo Amagi

[stable dawn]

[little bobcat]

in what world is triple bb more consistent than msn or hymen

lmao

[floral wave]

its just as consistent and faster than msn

[pseudo copper]

Letan such a pwo that he tested all comps Stryk

[neon bronze]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1092805642932191364/1096741739219386368/danknoted.gif

[candid sluice]

Everything is consistent with attacker bonus

The only inconsistency is getting fucked in the ass by shimakaze

[pseudo copper]

No, only thing that is inconsistent is the ability for people to remember to not overcap

[floral wave]

this

[neon bronze]

overcapKingdom so pro

[floral wave]

no

25 overcaps on lil e

[candid sluice]

true

thats why i avoid that by not playing at all

[little bobcat]

or getting fucked in the ass by nj when aquila reveals your backline

i can't wait for me to lose battles to aquila when i start running akaga

because i just get revealed and sniped before they can even launch

[candid sluice]

nah thats just you

[little bobcat]

true

i have the displeasure of being on a server so behind every single defense is just yakuza

[sweet relic]

Tested triple BB for quite a bit and they are really tanky. they usually finish by the second shot

[rustic bridge]

Make enty dead

[little bobcat]

well i won't deny that

[rustic bridge]

OK 18k Power hurt

[lusty hill]

Commander level 71

[little bobcat]

that fleet can't even hit 18k

[rustic bridge]

Better gears Skill Lv and skills andnhightee Power Lv as i

[sweet relic]

grey gear

[rustic bridge]

I have only 1 ship what damage make

She is next time gone

What use i next

[sweet relic]

[rustic bridge]

No

[neon bronze]

All META ships fleet

[rustic bridge]

Enty is Evil

[sweet relic]

That can be interesting

[nocturne zephyr]

How can I earn the most amount of merit easily. Just... Win against the highest scoring opponents I can every time? Before you complain, I did look at pins and multiple of the links

[sweet relic]

well just win

[rustic bridge]

9 -10 lose

[sweet relic]

And rush the end of each season for the highest rank

that's about it

[neon bronze]

Semi-bag, bag from 0 to just under 2200 and then rush once getting 2200 and above is possible

[nocturne zephyr]

Aight

Why did none of the tier lists use Impero?

[rustic bridge]

i ahve not a gears of tier list or ships

[neon bronze]

no clue, try asking NArd

[rustic bridge]

too many opsi gear

[lusty hill]

pvp have different mechanic and strategy than pve

[nocturne zephyr]

Ok? Obviously

[rustic bridge]

Fuck you opsi become never better gears

[sweet relic]

I mean you can probably make Impero work

just be creative

[rustic bridge]

fucking bastard germany

[sweet relic]

what did Germany do

[rustic bridge]

all bastard land of internet

more say i not

[lusty hill]

Guten tag

[sweet relic]

[lusty hill]

Ich habe eine kartofelnsuppe

[rustic bridge]

[rustic bridge]

1 bb and 2 cv or 2bbs and 1 cv

i Hope she is good

[sweet relic]

Only repair ships

[rustic bridge]

uni orn persi riyu

[sweet relic]

Akashi + Vestal + anyone else

[rustic bridge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/612993602787999804/973279390484021358/724968166949650494_1.gif

[sweet relic]

you torture yourself with bad gear, might as well use interesting ships

[rustic bridge]

i use my best gear

[sweet relic]

You have 113k coins

[rustic bridge]

it s time to d2 stream

[rustic bridge]

yes and

[sweet relic]

plenty to waste use

[rustic bridge]

for what

0 cubes

[sweet relic]

whatever you want

[rustic bridge]

more ägires

[sweet relic]

[trail temple]

Be a bagger until the 2nd Friday/Saturday of the season (i.e. when you can hit AOTN). Once you hit aotn, you want to stay in AOTN for as much as possible, winning as many games while in that rank (you get 100 merit that way) and do that for the rest of the season

Alternatively, just rush

[nocturne zephyr]

Aight
Is anybody here also able to help me with my PVP fleet (again)? before you start moaning, yes I did take a look at the tier lists and shit in the pins

I was thinking this, maybe

[little bobcat]

lmao

can someone tell iris to replace their middle slot vanguard and impero

[frigid hamlet]

replace your middle slot vanguard and impero

[little bobcat]

someone not blocked by iris

[frigid hamlet]

good luck

[floral wave]

if you looked at pins and cant set up full fleets from there this one doesnt look bad

altho id just use harbin instead of juneau if you can afford it

if you can gear it decently it'll work

[nocturne zephyr]

Do you want my dock?
Though I do indeed have Harbin, and she's 125'd and Dev30

[little bobcat]

i'd rather replace helena with harbin tbh

[pallid phoenix]

I'm getting submarine alerts in my exercises. What does this mean?

[floral wave]

sure if you dont mind posting it, but this fleet you came up with isnt bad

[floral wave]

i just tried it several times and juneau usually dies too late to make a difference tbh

[floral wave]

did you opponent have kursk?

[little bobcat]

not a great fleet to test on tho tbh

[floral wave]

couldnt find anything else at my current rank

also the fleet isnt top tier itself

[little bobcat]

ig

[nocturne zephyr]

Alrighty. Just figured Impero as Independance was also on the lost, and Impero is similar with a partial preload rather than just a fast launch

[floral wave]

you either make it sure win on first launch or you reset i guess

yeah impero is pretty good

keep in mind its not a very cheap fleet tho

[steel coral]

indep+impero is a perfect strat

[floral wave]

did you use juneau with yours?

[steel coral]

birmi

[floral wave]

🧠

one day ill get birm

definitely better than what i could test right now

[little bobcat]

i kinda wanna test uh

hiryuu / musashi / vanguard

should i test that rq

my vanny isn't oathed tho, would that be an issue?

[floral wave]

nah

[little bobcat]

my sashi is oathed but my vanny isn't

[floral wave]

but vang + hiryuu kinda eh

[little bobcat]

mhm

if i did fdg instead of vanny it'd be fine

[floral wave]

yeah

vang wants to kill shit fast, hiryuu stalls

unless you use hiryuu as a safety pick to reset if it goes wrong

but id definitely do fdg instead of vang

[pallid phoenix]

Dunno.

[nocturne zephyr]

Main:

Vanguard:

[little bobcat]

?????????

[floral wave]

maybe just a visual glitch that carried over from grinding you did before pvp?

[little bobcat]

anchorage / ayanami / harbin for frontline

seydlitz / someone / someone for backline

im thinkin seydlitz / indep / someone

[floral wave]

tbh i like the impero/indep pair, more fun

seydlitz middle could work because of the invincibility i guess

and ancho aya harbin seems to be the best choice for aggro fleet

[little bobcat]

yepp

[floral wave]

idk about middle seyd tho

[little bobcat]

maybe fdg seydlitz impero

would be kinda funny

i wanna test that myself

[floral wave]

fdg seyd is uh

[little bobcat]

but no seyd or impero

[floral wave]

seyd transfers part of the damage kms backline takes

[little bobcat]

oh does she have a skill that does that

[floral wave]

so if you pair her with fdg she just melts

she still has her invincibility but sometimes shed just die before 2nd salvo

[little bobcat]

ohh i see

i didnt know that

[floral wave]

and if she is a lone revealed backline shell just melt aswell

[little bobcat]

yep

[floral wave]

backline pretty much set for fdg/impero/indep

[little bobcat]

yea

[floral wave]

and frontline ancho and a choice between aya/harbin/juneau/ykkz

in case aya/harbin feels too squishy

[little bobcat]

mhm

i tried out aya / ibuki a bit ago

[nocturne zephyr]

You'd go Seydlitz > FdG for her faster load?

[little bobcat]

but i couldn't get ibuki to live initial torp spam while also keeping enough speed for frontline

so i might need oath

[floral wave]

not as a solo bb

and not if paired with fdg

i say that but im literally using fdg+seyd myself 💀

[nocturne zephyr]

Oh, like FdG + Seyd + Indep

[floral wave]

the issue is seyd will transfer fdgs damage taken to herself

meaning she wont live till 2nd salvo usually

but you could try it and see if you like it

also if you have a tenrai you might consider impero instead of indep in that setup

[nocturne zephyr]

I do indeed. Sea Hornet + Tenrai + Wyvern?

[floral wave]

yep

or flapjack if you have it

[nocturne zephyr]

Gotchu. I'll do that then. Anchorage + Helena + Harbin then, or?

[floral wave]

at this point probably drop helena

for either aya or juneau/ykkz

[nocturne zephyr]

Hm, didn't expect Ayanami

[floral wave]

aya with aug has shitton of damage

[nocturne zephyr]

True. Which of three would you go for? Aya?

[little bobcat]

stryk would go yukikaze

oh wait im blocked

[floral wave]

id definitely test aya

[little bobcat]

stryk

can u tell iris that ayanami isn't actually a bad choice but yukikaze is more consistent

or smth along those lines

[nocturne zephyr]

Will do then. Thanks a lot
Also, does level advantage apply to PVP? Do I really want lvl 125's?

[little bobcat]

yukikaze = tankier
ayanami = nuke a frontline or backline

[floral wave]

too lazy to type

[little bobcat]

ayanami? you mean the girl who eliminates shinano?

[floral wave]

yeah you do want 125s

[nocturne zephyr]

Gotchu. Thanks a lot. I'll keep this then

[floral wave]

have few runs with aya, see her pros and cons and how she fits within your fleet

and then decide

[little bobcat]

stryk have u tested noshiro vs yukikaze

with aggro

[floral wave]

whether youre okay with this or you want more defense

havent used noshiro in ages

[nocturne zephyr]

[floral wave]

and havent used ykkz ever since i switched off meeb

[little bobcat]

do u think sacrificing tankiness for more offensive pressure from harbin would be more valuable than yukikaze

i feel like noshiro buffing herself and harbin would be valuable

but like

could all be up to the backline

[floral wave]

noshiro is mainly a trp def buff in my eyes anyway

[little bobcat]

idk if i'll be able to use a dd besides ayanami until i get shima

[floral wave]

could be because i never got to do shima+noshiro

[little bobcat]

i love ayanami's ability to just fucking delete a backline

entirely

[floral wave]

ayanami also has similar speed to shima, which no other useful dd has

[little bobcat]

yep

i think my frontline rn is uh

[nocturne zephyr]

FdG flag, right? She's also not FS5

[little bobcat]

[floral wave]

if not fs5 yes, if fdg with impero+indep also yes

[nocturne zephyr]

Fair. Thanks

[little bobcat]

might put 76mm on aya for that extra rld since i don't need the range from 120 qf

[floral wave]

frontline likes to do dumb shit like going all the way back to your backline

so i just use the 120

[little bobcat]

alr

[floral wave]

my setup right now is

[little bobcat]

im doing musashi fdg shinano

think to be exact it's this

still debating wnt or fmp fdg

both are +13

[nocturne zephyr]

What gun do FdG and Seydlitz want?

[floral wave]

fdg 457

seyd 460

but you prolly dont have a 460

so id say either champog gun or mk6

if you dont have a 457, mk4 works

[nocturne zephyr]

457 + Champagne it is

What about vanguard AA?

[floral wave]

aya staag, harbin sexy bofors, ancho UR

can do double sexy bofors

can do staag harbin and roomba ancho

[stable dawn]

that's one thicc aya

[floral wave]

bongo, more like ark royal

[nocturne zephyr]

Manjuu or Beaver Tag on Anchorage?

[floral wave]

beaver ideally on fdg

[stable dawn]

I prefer manjuu + kicks for anchorage

[nocturne zephyr]

Oh, IC
I just went UR Table + Shell

[stable dawn]

shells aren't worth it unless you're running seydlitz

[floral wave]

youre doing fdg+2x semi preload or fdg/seyd/x ?

[nocturne zephyr]

Seyd + FdG

[floral wave]

beaver fdg then

wnt+shell seyd

[nocturne zephyr]

WNT?

[floral wave]

washington naval treaty

hit/eva statstick

[nocturne zephyr]

Oh that, right

[stable dawn]

yeah for seydlitz you want something like

[floral wave]

also when talking about shells its always white shell

[nocturne zephyr]

I don't got the Treaty? HSFCR or Nelson's Flags in place?

[stable dawn]

[floral wave]

fairy magic poster?

[nocturne zephyr]

Oh, I do got that

[floral wave]

that works

if not then next choice would be sg radar

hpfcr would be counterproductive since you dont want to shoot into ancho smoke/shield

[nocturne zephyr]

Hm, so no UR table on FdG then?