pvp

[merry vale]

Triple BB supremacy.

[fickle echo]

[floral wave]

man thinks a developer will assign resources to improve dead game mode; also if your friends quit because they were unable to win or find actual information on how to win dont tell them you dont always get what you want irl or they might quit that aswell

[hollow walrus]

Also I don't think PvP is even that important relatively speaking to quit AL over. it's not like the entire game heavily depends on it

[merry vale]

How many bulins do you want?

[floral wave]

thing is, a minimal amount of effort will net you aotn or info how to get it every season

id call his friends r word but its apparently blocked on this discord

[deft escarp]

It's not really gonna change anything

New players getting walled by top fleets would still get walled by those with heavily invested gear anyways

[merry vale]

Yep.

Gear difference would wall them anyways.

[deft escarp]

It would probably make the mode worse considering that some of the top tier ships are permanent

ie, Anchorage, Hiryuu, Harbin, Juneau

Etc

[merry vale]

Yeah.

And a nearly meta perfect Frontline is already available from permanents.

Anchorage helena Juneau is doable for anyone.

[deft escarp]

Oui

[merry vale]

And then you just need gear and 3 strong backliners.

And with attacker bonus, some gear, and maybe some resets anyone can aotn.

Tbh. The welfare always available setup pvp comp could just be Warkai Hiryuu Unicorn, Anchorage Helena Juneau.

I'm confident I can aotn with it.

And there's any number of event ships that could replace parts of the setup.

[merry vale]

And newbies are getting UR events every 3ish months, so they can replace their backline with something really strong eventually.

[junior trench]

The talk about USS Carriers has me curious… would Hornet 2 fill any sort of usable role for a PVP team? Just wondering.

[merry vale]

I wouldn't say she's the best, but what is she competing with?

What are you running/capable of running?

[junior trench]

I mean, right now despite being a year 1 player I have no back line URs because I don’t play regularly, had to delete the app a couple times on my old tablet due to lack of space, and have bad luck when it comes to summoning them. So, right now I’m using Unikai, FS5 Monarch, and Warkai. I’m currently working on the so grind for FdG, and then after another pr ship in between I’ll work towards anchorage. So, what I have to work with are a lot of the older ships.

That’s my cards laid out. If you want I can share my dock, but I’ll be honest, a lot of my options are underleveled (which I’m trying to fix at the moment).

[merry vale]

If you wanted to run enty hornet2 york2 you could get a usable fleet working. Depending on your gear it might be stronger than your current setup.

[junior trench]

I don’t have York2

You might be confusing me with the guy from earlier

[merry vale]

Ah alright.

[junior trench]

I’m not new, I just suck and haven’t been able to play as regularly as I would’ve like to and should’ve.

[merry vale]

I'm actually not 100% on hornet2s tiering without york2s buff. But it wouldn't hurt to try switching unicorn or monarch out and seeing how it feels for you though.

[junior trench]

I mean, my H2 isn’t leveled (though I plan on getting to her leveling soon), I was just curious of her viability.

[fickle echo]

Don't use Hornet 2 her invulnerable skill only works against crash damage from planes so the damage from any barrage,torpedo or even the bombs and torpedoes from planes would still kill her

[merry vale]

That's sad.

[fickle echo]

Hiryuu is better

[merry vale]

[junior trench]

If only I had my Hiryuu retrofitted. I’m working on Indy’s retro at the moment, though I did plan on getting on to working on Hiryuu as my next CV retro after Indy.

[fickle echo]

Indy retro?

Do you mean Port?

[neon bronze]

Think he means Independence Retrofit.

[fickle echo]

Oh

I never saw someone calling her Indy before

[junior trench]

I did just now because it was quicker to type

Actually though, would that triple USS CV backline you guys showed to the other guy before be better than the Unikai, Monarch, Warkai one?

Or no? Or about the same?

[fickle echo]

2 CV+1 BB is better otherwise your backline would be vulnerable to any fleet with a preloaded carrier+a hard hitting BB

Carriers are kinda frail once they get revealed

[junior trench]

Speaking of, the guide made it seem like Unikai is supposed to go in the flagship position. Is that the case for that type of fleet or did I misread it?

[stable dawn]

isn't that like a tier 4 fleet

[fickle echo]

The only reason for her to be flagship is because that position usually takes more damage so you would want to "sacrifice" her since her damage comes at the start

[junior trench]

I have nothing else to use

[neon bronze]

Send dock

[junior trench]

Ok, brb. Be warned though, like I said, a lot of my ships are underleveled since I didn’t play that regularly.

[stable dawn]

[junior trench]

Vanguard

Main

Again, I know there are some here which I’ve hardly leveled, and I plan on leveling them after my current ones are done.

[fickle echo]

Do you have exp packs left?

The best thing I can see is Warspite/Uni/Hiryuu or Monarch main and Sandy/Helena/Yukikaze for vanguard

[junior trench]

I have like 30 of the small packs

[fickle echo]

You can try Warspite/Uni/Indep once you finish her retro and level her up

[zenith lantern]

Seattle over Sandy can get her FS5 with coins

[fickle echo]

And replace Uni for Hiryuu once you retro her

I doubt he can do it anytime soon when she's not even dev 30 right now

[zenith lantern]

Probably about as fast as levelling to 125

Until the fleet is 125 you won’t be able to win much anyway

[junior trench]

Seattle is Dev 25. Monarch is FS5. Aegir is Dev 11 at the moment (and who I’m currently focusing on so I can get her to at least Dev 15).

[junior trench]

Wait hold on, Sandy as main tank? She’s not exactly that tanky.

[zenith lantern]

Yukikaze probably to tank

But really if you want to pvp you have to go for Anchorage, she’s the only ship that can really tank in pvp and has no replacement

[candid sluice]

at that stage of the game u shouldnt be worrying too much abt your pvp comp

[fickle echo]

You should also level up Juneau since Helena is gonna be useless everytime her skill fails

[zenith lantern]

You can worry about it enough to start levelling the right ships though for future success. If you want wins right now though the answer is just run your highest levels

[fickle echo]

Low level ships get a lot of exp from fighting higher level ships even if you lose anyway

[stable dawn]

just use pvp for exp at that point tbh

[candid sluice]

thats what im sayin

[junior trench]

A bit late, I had to go do something. But to answer you, I am. I’ve had her in the dorm for a couple days now. In terms of why I’m not leveling her by grinding it’s because I’m working on doing the do grind for FdG at the moment.

[candid sluice]

fdg is backline exp u can shot her in vg still

[junior trench]

Ya, but then that’d decrease the amount of XP backline gets

[candid sluice]

not unless she gets mvp which she shouldnt

[junior trench]

If I remember correctly, doesn’t the xp get split between all your ships meaning that the more ships you have the less they get individually? Or am I remembering that wrong?

[candid sluice]

no each ship gains exp individually

doesnt matter if u have 2 or 6 ships

[junior trench]

Well, regardless, Juneau is too low of a level to run in the end game worlds, so in the end it really wouldn’t be worth it to gimp my DR XP farm by having to do early story missions.

[candid sluice]

get her to lvl100 she can comfortably sit in 12-4

[winged depot]

[lusty hill]

Ranger is meta

[azure swan]

aint no way

[neon bronze]

👍

[neon bronze]

You should follow the ways of @steel coral . That was my Meeb fleet.

[lusty hill]

The fact that that fleet can kill meeb with shimakaze is nuts

[stable dawn]

NArd is just good at the game, what can I say

[junior trench]

Honestly I’ve always been a fan of Ranger, she has such an “all or nothing” skill set, which means that all these years later, she is still technically the ship (or at least, CV) with the highest possible damage.

[azure swan]

wait whats her skill?

[azure swan]

i mean, got lucky with the torp dodge near the beginning

[junior trench]

Ranger’s? She only has two simple ones, the first being when launching an airstrike, there’s a chance for her to do another one right after (and this skill can activate itself, meaning you could have it trigger endlessly), and the second is that she has a chance for her air strikes to deal double damage.

[azure swan]

doesnt chaser also have the endless airstrike skill?

[junior trench]

Yes, but she doesn’t have the double damage skill

[azure swan]

although ig she doesnt have the double dmg skill

yeah

are the percentages high enough to be reliable?

[junior trench]

Ranger’s skills are why she’s nicknamed RNGer by the community. Because when all of her RNG goes off when she want it to, she can absolutely desimate an opponent. However, using her is leaving it up to luck, because if her skills don’t activated then her damage is lacking.

That video is an example of what happens when Ranger’s skills happen to go off when she wants them to.

[azure swan]

ah, makes sense

and id assume its likely it took several tries to get that result?

[junior trench]

Probably.

Who knows though. Maybe he got lucky first try.

[azure swan]

perhaps

[junior trench]

I used to her in PVP during the first year of the game (first year of EN I mean). But I eventually swapped her out due to her inconsistency. She is definitely a very fun ship though, and it is so pleasing when everything goes off.

[ornate cosmos]

Which ships are best for pvp guys...

[steel coral]

Ranger

[neon bronze]

@ornate cosmos he not lying tho, check this video

[ornate cosmos]

Ranger only??hmm

[untold crater]

Musashi Shinano NJ Anchorage Shimakaze Juneau

[rustic bridge]

Easy lose enty is to strong

I can never win

[winged depot]

[lusty hill]

He use musashi now he's improving

[merry vale]

Too bad the gun he uses gimps her barrage.

[ornate cosmos]

Is there a list of ships that arw best for pvp

[candid sluice]

in the pins

[pastel jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-bozo-bozo-spongebob-squidward-gif-25129421

[stable dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-coffin-black-ghana-celebrating-gif-16743302

[junior trench]

[pastel jolt]

Congrats to the winners

[zenith lantern]

Lexi was close this season, any of the top 3 could have won, it all got decided by the last 30s

[fickle echo]

[fickle echo]

https://youtu.be/4km7idHhE7Y
Behold the power of my fleet

[lusty hill]

would it perform the same against fleet with CV

[fickle echo]

https://youtu.be/pajM1YsrJBY
It still works as long my vanguard doesn't stop moving right when it gets targeted

[lusty hill]

looks so strong

sadly I don't have shimakaze to make that fleet

[stable dawn]

if only Beth Log were still around to give his opinion

[fickle echo]

[zenith lantern]

On attack 3x BB gets better the more CVs you’re against. The hidden status works against the CV fleet because with less targets the BBs just focus fire down everything else

[onyx minnow]

Hi, just a filthy casual here, with almost no motivation to try out OpSi, unless I somehow got a good reason to.

Been running ark royal-indomitable-centaur with jervis-bellona-sirius frontline. I do like my hms ships, but just wondered what can I do better with this set of ships?

Also, I guess that anything that obliterates my vanguard before my second airstrike, and the 6 UR/DR hell teams kinda hit hard, but any good ideas to make this a little better?

Note- casual pvp too, but I do like more gold bulins, sooo....

[nocturne zephyr]

I can already be confident that gear is half of your problem

[onyx minnow]

Does gear make a huge difference? I dont have my usual gear for them slotted rn cuz farming... Reppu's, ryusei's and barracudas iirc where I can slot them and let them hit roughly same time, but I do sometimes wonder what i should slot on my vanguard.

As in, I feel that if the enemy can blow up my vanguard, I'm toast, and ngl sirius and bellona arent the tankiest things out there...

Does as much dmg as a peashooter too.

[nocturne zephyr]

Yes, gear makes a huge difference, and some of the best gear obtainable is from OpSi or research

[keen juniper]

Can always beat that with repeat

[onyx minnow]

Is it worth posting what I might equip on them to see what I should start farming first?

... Maybe EX bosses might actually become killable one day....

[keen juniper]

Bosses/PVE and PvP are different circumstances, you probably won’t use the trash that actually gold in PvP

[onyx minnow]

I mean, I hate the fact that my 3 BB fleet gives better scores, but EX bosses still dont die xD I do prefer PvE, but an idea of how to move forward on PvP would be nice too

... The only thing I ever crafted on gear lab is an Albacore, just to see what Formi's barrage looks like.

Also avoiding Enty like the plague because Lucky E on some reload steroids is nuts.

[keen juniper]

fyi EX event bosses mosty cleared with manual play, you need High end gears with matches fleet composition if you want to clear it auto

[whole salmon]

If you are on early stage of the game

Then pvp isn’t really worth your focus

Just slap whatever you have and go

If you still want to send fleet and gear then we will give recommendations

[whole salmon]

But from what you are suggesting, you don’t have that much either way

Yeah as expected, mid level pve gear

If you are at this stage then there’s other more valuable things you need to do first before actually focusing pvp

[onyx minnow]

Well, about that, I just avoided OpSi. OpSi feels like a lot of grind and I dont always have the time to do the grind

[whole salmon]

It’s better for you to do bits here and there rather than neglecting it entirely

Especially during weeks where no events are happening

[onyx minnow]

Ngl, not sure what to focus on really. I feel like I log in for 12-4 farming for coins and research.

[whole salmon]

Like the week we are currently on

[onyx minnow]

To clarify, 12-4 since clearing maps is effort hehehe * sadface*

[keen juniper]

do PvP if you want a merit for extra bullins

[onyx minnow]

Also 5th secretsry slot.

Yeah, I just do pvp for bulins

But watching thousands of converging torps is hella fun.

[keen juniper]

I do PvP since I don’t know what to do beside OpSi

Why mid player/new neglected OpSi, you’re gonna need it in the end game or maximize your gears

[whole salmon]

If you only cares about Bulins and you don’t have good gear or dedicate time to a certain gamemode then focus other things

Pvp isn’t for suitable for you yet

[whole salmon]

Yeah OPSI is important, both for gear and plates

[onyx minnow]

I see. So what should I focus on rn? Progressing in OpSi?

[whole salmon]

Eventually you won’t find it as important as before after you got decent enhancements and can buy the tech tree shop

[onyx minnow]

drags UniKai out from the grave time for you to get constant mvp again....

[keen juniper]

Yeah better progressing on there

[whole salmon]

But OPSI is still a crucial foundation for all other gamemodes

[whole salmon]

Gears and Gold Plates from OPSI can go a very long way in both pve and pvp

[onyx minnow]

Yeah, I'm lacking on gold anything and purple general parts.

So is it worth abandoning coins and research for OpSi for me then? Just do the hard modes and OpSi?

I do have multiple sets of ships, but if gears is what I need then lvling up DRs and research will prob take a back seat

[keen juniper]

No, researches and coins still important

[whole salmon]

You can alternate between the 2 gamemodes

Farm pve until your ships are low on morale or you are low on oil

Then shift to OPSI grind until pve is ready

[keen juniper]

Look here, if you doin story stages and event, you’ll consume ship moods and oils, but you won’t consume oils or mood except 5000 oils and another 5000 for extra AP in OpSi

[whole salmon]

Then alternate between the 2 gamemodes

[keen juniper]

Merge my suggestion and satou

[whole salmon]

During events then alternate between Event and OPSI

[keen juniper]

[whole salmon]

And switch back to alternating pve opsi during non big event weeks like currently

[onyx minnow]

Jeez. The grind is real...

Ok. Final question, i guess. Should I focus on BBs or CVs more? I got Musashi, Vanguard, and UvH, as well as monarch and hood amongst others for BBs, but I got plenty of other carriers like Yotk2, hornet2, and AvP, with Kaga+akagi getting levelled when I can.

[whole salmon]

For Pvp? BB

[onyx minnow]

I hear that bosses you should use BBs more cuz they have AA stat, but is there anything else other than 3bbs and 3cv lineups too? Or hood/avp/formi for supports?

[whole salmon]

For pve then go ask in another channel

[keen juniper]

*just a reminder, note for your real life time management too, this just a game for escape from reality and collecting shipfus, don’t take it hard as affecting your real life

[onyx minnow]

Very true, my bad. Thank you for your patience

[floral wave]

aa stat argument is wrong, nothing like that matters in pve

[onyx minnow]

Oh yeah, definitely on my mind, cuz thats what turned me away from opsi

[whole salmon]

Sandbaggers ruining their sleep schedule for that 3 minutes on eos leaderboard

[keen juniper]

I did forgot about that and ruins my EoS, not in leaderboard this season

[whole salmon]

But yeah, to play pvp seriously then it is basically end game content

[floral wave]

if only manjuu wanted to acknowledge eos exist and give additional rewards based on that

[whole salmon]

You would only do it after you have cleared most of pve and opsi

[onyx minnow]

I forget, no matter whrre, PvP can still get hardcore. Easy to forgrt cuz AL is such a relaxed game

[whole salmon]

Pvp can still be casually grind for rewards

But if you want to reach leaderboard then it will require investment

Not just ingame resources but also your time irl

[stable dawn]

pvp is the final frontier. The true endgame challenge when META bosses, Arbiter, and EX maps aren't enough

[shell cove]

Which server is the most competitive for pvp?

[keen juniper]

Avrora ig

[prisma pagoda]

and Lexy?

[floral wave]

lexi is second i guess

[candid sluice]

lexy is a team effort

[pastel jolt]

Lexington is not competitive other than like 7 people

[floral wave]

and how many competitive people do other servers have

[little bobcat]

stuck in low ranks again because i did exercises late

gg

[gritty quiver]

wait for season to end again ig

[little bobcat]

nvm jumped from 2.3k to 84 in a single battle

early season pvp experience

[pastel jolt]

Amagi has twice that number, not that you would know lmao

[little bobcat]

not that i would care

[pastel jolt]

Not talking to you

[floral wave]

that was adressed to me

and of course i wouldnt know

[little bobcat]

use the reply function?

[floral wave]

but that doesnt even make sense if applied to your message

[candid sluice]

💀

[little bobcat]

so

[pastel jolt]

Inclusive of Yukana, Ranch, Mikoto, Nomico, Zirael, Deathkt, NSW (when he tries), Salty (are you retired?) and probably a few more people I forgot, it's probably like 20

[candid sluice]

dude really counted me as an active player

[pastel jolt]

Bro I need to check

I'm stupid

[candid sluice]

im online ingame for less than an hour each day smh

[little bobcat]

i have like 40h a week on al

only 10h on genshin and arknights

[whole salmon]

5.7 hours a day huh

I don’t even play for that much anymore

Currently I’m maybe reaching 3-4 hours

[rustic bridge]

All are to strong

[keen juniper]

You just need to put a smart decent fleet

[little bobcat]

your fleet is very copium though

[keen juniper]

Anyway why use underleveled ship especially vanguard

[rustic bridge]

Have no good van

1 win from 4 games

[keen juniper]

at least you got the merits even if you lose

[gaunt sparrow]

I hear that Harbin is very good for PvP. If I have Juneau, Anchorage and Shimakaze, do I still need her though? Would she replace any of these three (if anyone, probably Shimakaze I'm guessing)?

[fickle echo]

Without Ancho your vanguard might be wiped out at the start and without Shima the vanguard is gonna be slower and more likely to take damage from BBs

Ancho/Shima/Harbin: vanguard focused on doing more damage
Ancho/Shima/Juneau vanguard focused on surviving as long as possible

[gaunt sparrow]

Makes sense. I assumed Juneau would basically be irreplaceable thanks to her Martyr skill

And Anchorage obviously cannot be tagged out because you do need a tank

[deft escarp]

And then you have Snadi

[lusty hill]

I slept for 8 hours why is nobody moved

[winged depot]

that always happens

you rolled guys who don't care about exercise

[candid sluice]

im more impressed that u got 8hrs of sleep

[lusty hill]

I'm a NEET

[pseudo copper]

People sleep?

[odd wing]

how do i get to rank 1 in the pvp ladder aside from attacking the people with the highest ranks

[stable dawn]

play the game more

[odd wing]

what

[whole salmon]

That but do it consistently and as many times as possible

Meaning

Play the game more

[odd wing]

yeah but ive done every single exercise without losing but some people end up still having higher scores

[candid sluice]

are you getting bonuses when u attack

[whole salmon]

What is your current score and current ticket number

For example, current score here is 240

With current ticket is 6/10

Could you send yours so we can figure out what is wrong

[trail temple]

He has a healthy life, there's your problem

[outer shadow]

first place! It took me a while to take the screenshot because I didn't believe it and I was already in second place! but in the image you can see the 1st

[candid sluice]

congrats

[outer shadow]

ty

[odd wing]

Sorry for the late reply, score is 338 with 5/10 tickets

[whole salmon]

Currently?

[odd wing]

Yeah currently

I mean when I sent that message at least

[whole salmon]

You’re behind

Are you bagging

As in are you getting bonuses

[odd wing]

Uh how do I check if I am

[whole salmon]

Take this screenshot for example

Left most guy right

Rank 908

[odd wing]

Ah if the enemy ranks are higher or lower than mine

[whole salmon]

But I waited a bit, and he moved to rank 308

Same guy

In the screenshot, I was rank Ensign

According to this chat, a victory in Ensign is +20 points

[whole salmon]

But because I waited for him to move, thus increasing the point gap between us

I got +25 points instead of +20

From the same guy, just waiting for him to play

From the looks of it, it doesn’t seem you know this technique yet

[odd wing]

So basically I wait for them to get higher ranks so I can get more points from winning against higher ranked players to push the ladder higher

[whole salmon]

Yes

Basically do that over and over again

The bigger the point gap between you and the opponents that you beat, the more points you get

And vice versa

Pvp is maximizing the bonus you get while minimizing your point losses

[odd wing]

So I'm guessing I should wait until I am about to recover 5 tickets and then spend my 10 tickets at the very end so that I can maximize the rank gap

[whole salmon]

Not all 10 tickets

Basically pvp resets 3 times a day

At daily reset, at 12 hour after daily reset, at 18 hour after daily reset

[odd wing]

Oh so I just use 5 since each reset gives 5 back

[whole salmon]

Before those intervals, you should be at 5/10

[stable dawn]

he's learning

[whole salmon]

Frequently check your list

May require you to log out then log back in

And repeat that process

[odd wing]

Ok then, sounds good.

[whole salmon]

You will mostly see people moving immediately after a reset

[odd wing]

Also I'm running basically the same fleet as you except I'm using hiryuukai instead of NJ, is one better than the other?

[whole salmon]

But during the 6 or 12 gaps between resets

Then it will have less movers

[stable dawn]

do you not have NJ?

[whole salmon]

Or at least it will be more random

[stable dawn]

[whole salmon]

You may want to remember people’s names, especially during 2nd week of the season

[odd wing]

I do but wondering which may be better

[whole salmon]

To see who move when and if you could roll them

You just need to remember around 100 consistent names

[stable dawn]

oh I see you're using meeb

[odd wing]

Damn didn't know PvP had to have this much thought

[whole salmon]

On the second week, it would be more common to find one on your list

[stable dawn]

meeb should be fine if you have at least 2 +13 wyverns

[whole salmon]

Or idk you could ping them on Discord and ask them to move

Or ask when they move so you can know their pattern

[odd wing]

Well I do have 2 +13 wyverns but I also have a +13 Georgia gun so

[odd wing]

Bruh

[stable dawn]

then you could run MSN instead

[odd wing]

Ok then

[whole salmon]

Or idk you could send them friend request and say “Lol do you have any pvp attempts left? Move for me pls lmao”

[odd wing]

Also is amagi a big server? Because my friend irl plays in Lexington so idk if amagi is the "main" server since I started a few years ago

[stable dawn]

Amagi is probably the most active server for pvp rn

[odd wing]

Damn so it won't be easy

[whole salmon]

Avrora is quite active but chances of you actually succeeding there is low

[stable dawn]

depends on how far you want to go

aotn unlocks on Friday, 2nd week

[whole salmon]

Amagi is quite active, ask around and you may find some communities or key players

[odd wing]

I was rank 1 for like 1 second on amagi so

[stable dawn]

so there's 2 extra days afterward to get top 10 briefly

[odd wing]

Aotn?

[stable dawn]

admiral of the navy

highest pvp rank

2200+

[whole salmon]

Another example of someone moving

[odd wing]

Oh ok

[whole salmon]

First week then it is harder to estimate exact point gap

But you will know when someone has moved or not just based on rank difference

On week 2, you can directly check the point difference by using the top 100 leaderboard

[stable dawn]

also of note is that pvp equips are quite different from pve equips

[odd wing]

I thought by moving you meant new opponents but I'm not so sure anymore

[odd wing]

Yeah ik

[stable dawn]

oh so you've read the docs?

congrats you're already ahead of 99% of the playerbase

[odd wing]

Well I don't think it really matters does it? since the attacker gets a 20% DMG boost I think

[stable dawn]

in high ranks you'll encounter some unbelievably strong defense fleets

[pseudo copper]

@stable dawn make your def fleet easier for me pls

[stable dawn]

you don't even play on my server

[odd wing]

Also what did you guys mean by moving

Because I think I am misunderstanding what it means

[stable dawn]

it's the term for waiting for the opponent to move up ranks

[empty mesa]

Another Amagi pvper?

[pseudo copper]

[stable dawn]

or specifically, the opponent having already moved ranks

[odd wing]

I just wanna get rank 1 once so I can say I got rank 1 once then that'll be it

[empty mesa]

Good luck, bro.

[odd wing]

Ah so the numbers ok

[odd wing]

Thanks

[whole salmon]

Same guy

[pseudo copper]

eos r1?

[whole salmon]

Not new opponents

But they move up in rank

Their rank would update whenever they play

[stable dawn]

wow what a handsome fellow

[whole salmon]

You would just need to beat them after they finished playing

[odd wing]

wat

[pseudo copper]

End of season rank 1

[odd wing]

So basically I just gotta pray that they use all their exercises before I do

[stable dawn]

oh yeah, so you know how aotn unlocks on Friday right?

[whole salmon]

Basically yes

Well you don’t need them to play all 10

Most of the time then 5 is enough

[odd wing]

Bruh I have no idea what it is all I used to do was use all exercises then do other stuff

[stable dawn]

some tryhard weirdos try to finish the season as aotn at the very last second in order to ascertain that they are the undisputed rank 1 end of season

[whole salmon]

Which leads to players moving as close to the reset as possible

[stable dawn]

the game doesn't actually have leaderboards for previous seasons

so the community keeps track instead

[whole salmon]

If you don’t have a good fleet then ig 15 mins before reset is possible to get down to 5/10

[stable dawn]

hence the doc in the pins

the cuttly link

that is our history

our legacy

[odd wing]

I just be using the meeb fleet but I will prob switch to msn

[whole salmon]

Yeah the link in pin is a good enough reference

[stable dawn]

the one below it is salty's pvp doc which has a really in-depth look at meta fleets and their gear

[whole salmon]

I think other communities might have details that are more specific

[pseudo copper]

Amagae r1 soon 2600

[whole salmon]

Lexi group for example keeps info on every reset of a season

[whole salmon]

So we can know when people move and at which reset

[odd wing]

Although it'd be cool to end rank 1 seems like it is quite difficult so I'll prob go for being rank 1 for well a decent amount of time

[whole salmon]

We know patterns of rushers more than our own house half of the time

[odd wing]

[pseudo copper]

I know your house better than mine

[stable dawn]

I thought you lexi pvpers were homeless

[whole salmon]

Smh

[pseudo copper]

Nah, they live under 1 roof

[whole salmon]

There’s also the thing that

Many other players are doing the exact same thing you are doing

[stable dawn]

not many, it's like 15-16 people on Amagi

[whole salmon]

The technique of bagging and remember names aren’t exactly some trade secret

Servers tend to have 15-20 consistently active pvp players

And around 8-12 consistent eos rankers

[pseudo copper]

[stable dawn]

everyone else just does their exercises for merit

[pseudo copper]

Time for me to overcap another 15 exercises this season

[odd wing]

Well I'm sure 99% of the playerbase wont know about any of the techniques

[stable dawn]

the actual pvp community is pretty small

[candid sluice]

Some know but choose not to care

Chads

[stable dawn]

real

[whole salmon]

They don’t but if around 12 people succeed with it per season then your chances of being in top 10 is already contested

[odd wing]

I just need to be rank 1 in something dammit I've played for so long I just wanna get rank 1 in something on azur lane 1 time

[stable dawn]

[odd wing]

Well I was actually rank 1 this season for like 5 seconds so yeah but if I can maintain it for a day that'll be it

[whole salmon]

Another MK?

[candid sluice]

Hey I’ve seen this one before

[whole salmon]

[odd wing]

What

What is mk

Bruh

[stable dawn]

it's a story for another day

[whole salmon]

Someone with a similar goal as you

He did succeed last season top 1

[candid sluice]

If u want rank 1 at something azure lane isn’t it

[stable dawn]

I will however leave the plot summary here

[whole salmon]

Took him like 2 years

[odd wing]

2 years

[candid sluice]

Season finale

[stable dawn]

tbf most top pvpers achieved it in much less time

MK was uh

challenged

[whole salmon]

It was because he refused to use Musashi

[pseudo copper]

I got rank 1 with 1d offline

Just git gud scrubs

[whole salmon]

But he finally learnt this season

Now we only need to convert Aoste

To kill Mafia for good

[stable dawn]

Aoste wasn't even in top 50 last season iirc

he finished 2551 and just yolo'd out

man's retired for real, I guess

[pseudo copper]

I was top 100

[odd wing]

I mean everything else on azur lane is pretty hard to get rank 1 on

[pseudo copper]

Too many overcaps

[stable dawn]

pvp is unironically probably the easiest to get #1 on

[whole salmon]

Lexi lost so many pvp players in 2022

Dearn, Gosu, Momo

I think Vice retired this year as well

Ramiribs

Etc

[candid sluice]

If you ask everyone in your server nicely u can get r1

[stable dawn]

wasn't vice top 5 last season though

[odd wing]

Well if I ask it's like admitting defeat you get me?

[candid sluice]

True

[whole salmon]

The season before last season

Last season he didn’t participate

[stable dawn]

vice? Not participating?

[whole salmon]

Eventually the devs may do an oopsie and have extended maintenance, killing off majority of baggers

[stable dawn]

[whole salmon]

So who knows

[stable dawn]

they don't need to worry about that yet let's be real

[odd wing]

Since it seems like getting #1 might make me go insane I'll settle for top 10

[stable dawn]

that's the spirit

[whole salmon]

I’m still having Microlayer Medley flashbacks

[odd wing]

If I make it to top 10 in 1 season I will dip

So I can say I am one of the players in azur lane of all time

[whole salmon]

If you consistently get top 10 then eventually rng will be on your side so you get top 1

[stable dawn]

this is true

[whole salmon]

Players with consistent 100% top 10 streak are rare

Eventually life will get in the way

[stable dawn]

also the difference in skill between top 10 and top 1 really isn't all that much

[whole salmon]

So if you try enough, eventually you will make it

[stable dawn]

a lot of it just ends up being whether you care to look at the screen

[whole salmon]

Last season, 3 people on Lexi was tie for 1st place

Plasma, Ari and MK

[pseudo copper]

Skill based game™️ - Kirito265

[whole salmon]

Plasma finished first at 94

Ari is ahead of MK at 1/10 by 1 point

But then Ari ate -2

While MK rolled Ari and didn’t get minus

[stable dawn]

but yeah ultimately, you only have 3 things to follow.

1. make sure your fleet isn't bad
2. keep a consistent schedule
3. don't try too hard. PvP is for fun. Don't let it get to you.

[whole salmon]

Then MK placed top 1 with Plasma top 2 and Ari top 3

RNG may happen at the top ranks

[pseudo copper]

Also make sure to ping baggers to tell them to move

Baggers appreciate it a lot

[odd wing]

I'm sure PvP is mostly just waiting until the tickets are about to reset and trying to get as many points as possible

[stable dawn]

not always

often you get early movers

[odd wing]

Baggers are people who hold tickets no?

[stable dawn]

so you'll be at 9/10 or 8/10 by the time you want to burn your tickets

[whole salmon]

Yeah, baggers are essentially players like you

Players who aim for top spot

So they will hold ticket until quite late

Chances of you getting a bonus off of them is difficult

And they may have strong defense

[odd wing]

I mean how do I tell if they're an early mover

[stable dawn]

that's the neat part

you don't

[whole salmon]

Which could lead you to lose or overcap if you wait too long

[pseudo copper]

Experience

[whole salmon]

On the first week then it is nearly impossible

Even veterans can’t exactly remember 20000 names

[pseudo copper]

Just ask everyone to move and they may move

Ez

[stable dawn]

well also some people pvp then forget

it's completely random

[whole salmon]

At most we remember like 300 names

And sometimes there are outliers

[odd wing]

Maybe this is why I have 1 friend request on azur lane

[whole salmon]

Maybe the rusher just forgot, maybe they got exams, maybe they overcap

[stable dawn]

never too late to start making more

[hollow walrus]

Wait question what is bagging

[stable dawn]

the best way to learn pvp is to meet more people

[whole salmon]

You don’t usually know

Tho if you play enough, eventually you will meet people with consistent patterns

[pseudo copper]

Waiting on people to move to get most bonuses you can off other people

[whole salmon]

So just remember around 100 of them

[pseudo copper]

Or later in season avoiding -1s

[whole salmon]

Example sent above

[stable dawn]

you don't have to make a conscious effort to remember names

[whole salmon]

Kaldur is at rank 908

[odd wing]

I think I'll prob just try and do the waiting game casually and see what rank I can get since I got exams soon so I can't really stare at the PvP screen

[whole salmon]

I wait for him to move to rank 308

[stable dawn]

eventually after pvping enough you just know who moves because you've encountered their fleet so many times

[pseudo copper]

Just check whenever free™️

[whole salmon]

I beat him and got +25 instead of +20

That’s bagging

Repeat that over and over

[pseudo copper]

You can get t10 with only 1-2 logins per reset in Amagi

[odd wing]

Then I get rank 1 😎

[whole salmon]

After the reset start, just check once every 5-10 mins

[stable dawn]

but yeah top 10 eos is a good starting goal if you've already got aotn before

[whole salmon]

After the hour is over, check once every 30 min - 1 hour ig depending on schedule

[stable dawn]

otherwise try to get aotn consistently first

then slowly move into eos bagging

[whole salmon]

Usually on the second week, you rarely get more than 2 movers per set

[stable dawn]

it's actually pretty easy to hit aotn once you know the basics

because you can miss up to like 15 tickets

[whole salmon]

So if your schedule is conflicting

You can just move after you get the +1 or +2 bonus for that set

Sometimes we move early cus we got other stuff to do

That’s fine as well

[odd wing]

So should be fine for me then I hope

Since at least according to the tier list my fleet is the best fleet you can get for PvP(?)

[stable dawn]

You can literally check once or twice per reset and as long as you don't overcap or lose fights, you'll probably hit top 10 eos

[whole salmon]

No

[stable dawn]

but gear matters more than just fleet comp alone

[odd wing]

I see

[whole salmon]

There’s no actual “best fleet” since a lot of fleets do counter each other and have pros and cons

[odd wing]

Yeah I've changed it according to the tier list as well

[whole salmon]

Another factor is that it is greatly dependent on your gear

[stable dawn]

there's also some nuance the tier list doesn't quite always cover

[whole salmon]

A top fleet without strong gear may not perform as well as a decent fleet with decent gear

[stable dawn]

like for example if you are using Musashi flag, it's not good to run white shell + table on her because you get no flagship bonuses.

and the extra damage from white shell really isn't worth it

compared to the other buff equips

[whole salmon]

Triple Battleship comp for example is really good on offense but very unreliable on defense

2 CV comp Shinano Hiryuu requires a lot of plate investments into Rainbow planes

[stable dawn]

there's still an argument to be made that having a good defense fleet lowers the overall scores on a server

because other players lose more

[odd wing]

And since they lose more I also earn less from then being lower rank

[stable dawn]

you don't have to worry about meme techs yet

for you just finish your exercises

and make sure your fleet's gear isn't substandard

[odd wing]

And I'm pretty sure how with exercises work I can just like reset it if I'm about to lose and retry

[stable dawn]

so full +13s, correct items, etc

[whole salmon]

Tho for now

If you are low on plates

[odd wing]

Majority are +13 but some aren't although I'm sure that's probably ok

[stable dawn]

that's the thing. At super high ranks some people will have defense fleets that are just THAT strong. You can retry for a few hours and still not beat them

happened to MK

[whole salmon]

Wait until the info on the new UR event is available

[odd wing]

Bruh

[stable dawn]

but that's because he was using subpar gear

[whole salmon]

There could be new ships or near gears that could shake up the meta

[stable dawn]

hence, tip #1: make sure your fleet isn't bad

[whole salmon]

So usually just hold on making any major investment before UR events

[stable dawn]

speaking of which, what is your current gear setup anyway?

[whole salmon]

Mine?

[stable dawn]

no

[whole salmon]

Sadge

[odd wing]

It's just according to the tier list

So should be fine

[whole salmon]

Send screenshot if possible

[stable dawn]

that doesn't explain anything

there's like 20+ different possible combinations

per fleet

[odd wing]

Ok lemme get the screenshots

[stable dawn]

aight

[odd wing]

Also in the doc what like rank do u have to be in the listed names?

[stable dawn]

envy's doc has multiple parts

for each server there's a top 100 eos

but for the ones on the stat sheets, those are usually top 10 eos players

[valid oxide]

I've seen lots of kronk tanking otherwise standard fleets, did the new item make her viable?

[stable dawn]

(because they show up the most frequently)

[whole salmon]

No ofc not

[prisma pagoda]

Is PVP defense made for... if u empty one of the row ( Main / Vanguard ) == Auto switch to Fleet 1?

[whole salmon]

Wot

[stable dawn]

[prisma pagoda]

Or is a bug?

U guys can try?

[whole salmon]

Ahh if you remove entire frontline?

[stable dawn]

no that's a feature iirc

[whole salmon]

Yeah it’s a feature

[stable dawn]

because you can't have a blank pvp fleet

[whole salmon]

Cus blank fleet not possible

[prisma pagoda]

Make sense

[odd wing]

is there a way of showing my fleet

without taking an individual screenshot of everyone

[stable dawn]

no, but you could always try to recreate it using the fleetmaker tool

https://x94fujo6rpg.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

I usually prefer it over actual screenshots nowadays

[odd wing]

ill go ahead and use it then

[stable dawn]

[odd wing]

also is there a way to change equips fast for ch14 and pvp since i had to do that with ch14 and opsi and it is kinda annoying

[stable dawn]

you can save and load presets in the equips section

[odd wing]

oh

huh

[stable dawn]

but yeah there's actually quite a few issues with your pvp fleet I can point out immediately.

1. Musashi purple gun slows down NJ firing 457 due to how close in reload time they are.
2. Your vanguard doesn't have any speed buffs beyond gyro on Juneau, so it will get obliterated by any well-geared enemy Musashi, once you encounter them higher up on the ladder.
3. Shimakaze doesn't need black torp if you have quint mags, since the point of black torp is to make the first launch magnetic.

[odd wing]

well damn

[stable dawn]

For comparison, here's a proper setup for MSN

now of course, some people (like Pink) would definitely argue with me on some of these equips

but I'd say it can absolutely carry you to top 10 eos if you play properly

[odd wing]

i think ive got everything on there

[elder gull]

can it carry me if i lose 2 times and forget to play 5 pvps?

[stable dawn]

no, only god unultra can save you now

[odd wing]

ill just switch it up and hope that it can carry me 😄

[odd wing]

what server do u play on

just wondering if theres more i have to go against

which means i will probably fail

[stable dawn]

failure is in the mind

[odd wing]

[stable dawn]

why your gear still +10 lmao

[whole salmon]

My current

It’s +13 but I cba actually changing the thing on the website

[stable dawn]

fair

wait so you're actually using ply gun on Musashi just for the like 1% increase in barrage damage????

[empty mesa]

What's your IGN, bro? Need to know active Amagi pvpers.

[prisma pagoda]

[whole salmon]

Yes

[stable dawn]

damn @odd wing you got the #1 Amagi pvper interested in you

[whole salmon]

Ik it isn’t necessary

[odd wing]

a bit crazy

its Zeckle

but u honestly prob wont need it

[empty mesa]

Don't know what are you talking about.

[odd wing]

since im going for a top 10er then will try again when my exams are over

will probably only try next season though since i kinda screwed this season over

[whole salmon]

It’s good enough tbh

Since you are running WNT Musashi mid

[stable dawn]

eh you can overcap 5 in the beginning of the season and still hit top 10 eos

I've done it

deathkt has done it

[whole salmon]

If you bag hard enough it is possible

[odd wing]

yeah but with me being so new to this idk if i can

[stable dawn]

you'd be surprised

[whole salmon]

Bonus points is due to point gaps

So you can come back quickly

[stable dawn]

[odd wing]

oh yeah true

[whole salmon]

But there are some things of note

If you lose or overcap later in the season, it is harder to recover

[stable dawn]

yeah because the bonuses get smaller

[whole salmon]

Currently the gap is like 20 ish points for +1 while later it is 35 points

[stable dawn]

eventually we fight over +1s

[empty mesa]

DD secondary on Sushi is Washi tech?

[odd wing]

well i didnt bag at the start but i won every single one

[whole salmon]

Secondly, don’t be too far behind

If you miss like 15 tickets

Chances are, your season is over

[stable dawn]

naw I was just giving a fleet that isn't outrageous in case they didn't have a plygun

[odd wing]

didnt miss any i dont think

[stable dawn]

some people look at the +13 plygun on Musashi and just lose their minds

[odd wing]

so i guess i could still try

[odd wing]

hwo do u get a plygun btw

[stable dawn]

PR5

[neon bronze]

PR5, needs 50 prints though. And a lot more gold gun plates to +13

[odd wing]

ive been researching pr5 since the start until i dev 30'd everyone and fs5'd everyone and still no plygun

i have only 15 plygun prints bruh

[prisma pagoda]

Anyone have Donald Trump [Avrora] pvp build? If yes... I need to watch it

[stable dawn]

you have to spam Q researches to get any UR stuff from PRs tbh

[whole salmon]

Another thing is that you should be prepared for sudden meta changes

Could be in ships or gear

[odd wing]

well i only did g412s and the ones with the ships on them

[whole salmon]

Sometimes people are missing a few ships so they couldn’t make a top fleet

But since the game releases a new good ship, they can now compete

Musashi is a prime example

[pseudo copper]

[odd wing]

dont worry i go for every ship every event incase i ever regret not getting them

[whole salmon]

There was a period where Musashi just wasn’t used in pvp

So people who had a raised Musashi had an easier time

Now everywhere I go, I see Musashi

[odd wing]

which is why i got 440 dock space and which is why i am about to run out which is why i wish i had more gems and stopped spending them on skins

[whole salmon]

[pseudo copper]

Amagi still has no defence fleets

[odd wing]

mine is literally msn twice

and the doc said it should be fine

[stable dawn]

once again, gear is everything

ironically MSN doesn't use tenrai

[odd wing]

i got 2 tenrais but msn doesnt use

[whole salmon]

Tho the devs are making it a lot easier to gear for pvp

[odd wing]

ye

[odd wing]

well thats good for me

[whole salmon]

Musashi doesn’t need rainbow gun to perform

457 is now in tech tree for NJ

Other core pvp items are in the collection thing

[stable dawn]

and wyvern is perma

[whole salmon]

And even Cosmic Kicks can be in war archive

[pseudo copper]

I use no gear

[whole salmon]

You can craft Staag now

[pseudo copper]

Gear is only for skill issue'd people

[whole salmon]

BB comps are a lot easier to gear

[stable dawn]

you aren't unultra

[pseudo copper]

Real pvpers move at 0.01 microseconds left with no gear

[odd wing]

werent they dropped in the muse event?

[whole salmon]

Shinano Hiryuu comps for example usually require 4 rainbow planes

[stable dawn]

[whole salmon]

Ideally, you want to +13 them

[pseudo copper]

Unultra is my wife's father

[whole salmon]

4 rainbow planes to +13 is not a cheap investment

Compared to BB comps where currently at most you only need 2 rainbow guns

[odd wing]

i got 4 wyverns and 2 tenrais so would it be enough for a shinano hiryuu comp

[whole salmon]

Technically you can even run MK4

[whole salmon]

This

The enhancements

That’s where the pain is from

[odd wing]

yeah the gold plates are a pain

[stable dawn]

at least you do opsi

[pseudo copper]

What's opsi?

[stable dawn]

so many people come into this channel and say "hey how can I get rank 1? Also I don't do opsi"

[pseudo copper]

Hey, how can I equip my ship well and do all content easy? Btw I don't do opsi

[odd wing]

i didnt do opsi until like a year after it was released or something

i did start pretty late since i then only realized i was missing out on so much

[stable dawn]

hey we all come from somewhere

[keen juniper]

[thorn obsidian]

[merry vale]

[merry vale]

"What do you mean this best in slot blue/purple gun requires mats everyone should have in massive surplus?? My Musashi will never get stronger!"

[floral wave]

i mean

theres a tech box gun with barely any difference

[merry vale]

Too hard man.

[floral wave]

"what do you mean i have to open that 5k tech boxes i hoarded "

[merry vale]

[deft escarp]

[topaz oxide]

Holy crap Trento is in the merit shop

Buy her before it's too late

[neon bronze]

[pseudo copper]

You realise that merit shop is individual right?

[topaz oxide]

oh

Strange system but I guess I cant change that

[stable dawn]

[azure swan]

why in pvp

[thorn obsidian]

this feels like a meme

[neon bronze]

[arctic ermine]

which torpedo should anchorage be using?

guide shows 3 BIS

[real vigil]

Try using the triple 550mm

[arctic ermine]

why that?

[real vigil]

It's a torpedo with very low reload to proc her skill more frequently

[real vigil]

The 533mm triple is the homing version of the 550mm, but if I recall, the 550mm should have a faster reload time

[candid sluice]

the twin has faster rld

[real vigil]

it does, by one second

[arctic ermine]

twin is 1 sec faster than triple 550, and triple 550 is 1.6 secs faster than triple 533 based on the wiki. are these differences that significant?

[candid sluice]

it all depends on the timestamp you want to cover with her smoke

are u trying to cover bb barrages or carrier strikes

[arctic ermine]

i'm really not sure, i just want a 1 size fits all and don't wanna worry about gear switching

[real vigil]

then try the triple version

it's the best of both worlds

if you don't like it, switch to the twin or triple 533

[languid niche]

[inland scarab]

How's Musashi compare to FDG ?

[whole salmon]

Musashi is superior

[rustic bridge]

Fucking lv 20 enty fuck my fleet

[lusty hill]

no way salty belfast got annihilated by lv 20 enty

[winged depot]

He always lose to anything

[rustic bridge]

Enty is fucking overpower

[languid niche]

[arctic ermine]

i'm a bit confused with the guide, specifically the gears part. picture shows the gears but the notes talk about gears entirely not listed. like with anchorage, first thing says 113 is best AA gun, but none of the AA guns listed are 113 at all.

[lusty hill]

I think the description still WIP

Just ignore the description

[arctic ermine]

I see, thanks for the clarification

[frigid hamlet]

once upon a time, 113 was the highest alpha AA gun

[arctic ermine]

since the season reset, i've won all my matches vs left-most enemies, how is it that there's a huge gap between me and the rank 1? like how do they get more points?

[whole salmon]

Time to explain again

[warm crow]

you either didn't get matched up to players who rush their attempts, or you used your attempts without waiting for players who rushed theirs getting you less bonus

[whole salmon]

Left most guy is rank 908

You wait for someone to move

In this case left most went to 308

A victory in rank Ensign is +20 points

However due to the point difference between me and him

You get +25 points for victory instead of +20

Repeat this process over and over again

[whole salmon]

Simply put, you have maximize the bonus from victory by waiting for opponents to move while minimizing your point losses

Explanation is above

In order to know when opponent has moved, it may require you to log out then back in

[keen juniper]

Dude satou , maybe start writing somewhere else and link it, whenever someone show up again with same question just put the link

[winged depot]

There should be a yt vid of it on Azur Lane Meta

although I did learn it from someone here

rip brah

[arctic ermine]

so essentially the best way to rank up... is to play like one match every hour or something?

(assuming people move every hour or so)

[whole salmon]

No

Only play when the opponent has moved

That depends on whenever they move, you pretty much have no control over that

( Unless idk you ping them on Discord and ask them to move )

Just that you have to be by 5/10 before the reset is over

[frigid hamlet]

i've heard some top players' strat is to send friend requests in game

[winged depot]

That is also a way

[keen juniper]

You can search the guy here probably dm him to move

[whole salmon]

You either remember names of consistently active players and their moving patterns

Or you join communities and match up with players that want to help you out

[lusty hill]

do people actually move when they get dm or pinged?

[whole salmon]

Not really

[winged depot]

some do

[whole salmon]

Depends on how close you are

[winged depot]

Ye

[whole salmon]

Or if they are willing to help

If you ask a bagger to rush immediately in a reset

They likely won’t

But if for example you ask a rusher, they may help you out if that’s what they are already planning or if there’s no conflict of interest

[whole salmon]

That’s not to say baggers don’t help each other

Sometimes bagger chain may happen where a lot of baggers do roll each other

In which case then we would ask someone to either finish moving early or make weaker defenses

[rustic bridge]

Need a enterprise kill ship

[empty mesa]

To fight Enterprise you must use Enterprise yourself. Nothing else works.

[neon bronze]

Enterprise so strong, my Meeb fleet doesn't beat her in one go.

You should use her.

[winged depot]

As long as its saltybelfast, he always finds a way to lose to enty

[lusty hill]

What's with the enty hate, we should start the shimakaze hate instead

[winged depot]

I don't hate shima and I don't even have her

[neon bronze]

Enty is random with this skill

Fake, enemy Enty always proc 100% of the time.

[winged depot]

just kill her before she launches

smh

[neon bronze]

Even with Chise

[pastel jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/775377631729287198/1023136668577976360/peeveepee_guide_2022_updated.docx consider reading this

[winged depot]

From where i'm at. Enty is lucky if she even gets to launch her aircrafts

[pastel jolt]

[neon bronze]

I don't remember a single time Enterprise doesn't get an airstrike without a Lucky E proc.

[rustic bridge]

Enty kill is impossible

I need faster guns

[floral wave]

imagine if there only was a faster gun

and ijn to fit musashi requirements at that

[rustic bridge]

[lusty hill]

+12

[rustic bridge]

yes

Use this gun on meta fights

My best ap gun

[lusty hill]

try this gun
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_410mm_(3rd_Year_Type)_Kai#Type_0-0

[rustic bridge]

Can i win

Have this not

Nothing from this Ur gears

[floral wave]

arizona meta doesnt really belong to pvp category

altho you could swap aa, additional fp>hit for current meta fight

[rustic bridge]

I need better rng on gears

[dim portal]

How do you do pvp

[pseudo copper]

You overcap

[dim portal]

Overcap? What that mean

[whole salmon]

Are we gonna cope we get another BB to powercreep Musashi

UR event is soon

Tho I would still take a good CL

[neon bronze]

the meat of Musashi's greatness is her barrage. barrage so good you could run a faster IJN gun while not losing much damage

The 460mm is bad in this gamemode, the usual preference is for twin356kai and twin410kai BB guns (both are craftable at the Gear Lab)

[gritty quiver]

isnt 356 kai better since its like 16s or sth

[neon bronze]

for 2 BB+ comps, yes it is. to reduce the time between her and another BB's 457/406mk4 salvos. absolute cooldown reasons

for comps where you only run Musashi as the only BB, such as Meeb, the 410kai is better.

[gritty quiver]

u learn sth new everyday ig

i like to yolo with 356 tho

i got warkai anyway

[dim portal]

I have no idea but... ||walled some top pvper while still using 460mm on sushi ||

[neon bronze]

[candid sluice]

is a server where triple bb on defense is scary im not surprised

[lusty hill]

I would prefer a vanguard UR that powercreep shimakaze

[gritty quiver]

fr that would be so nice

cuz ive been coping for forever with poikai

[dim portal]

Ohh yeah I would try to run full power MSN against an optimized triple BB for 10+ times and check its WR just to see if it's all on server preferences

[candid sluice]

server issue

[pseudo copper]

Then you should redefine it main gun, augment and white shell can/should change refer to pins

[floral wave]

attacker advantage doesnt magically turn suboptimal gear into optimal

[floral wave]

dont need to change when it works, but it already might not against proper fleets

musashis main source of damage is her barrage

and a blue/purple gun allows for more barrages per fight on average than a 460

[neon bronze]

Eventually, you'll encounter a fleet you'll have problems beating. Hence the gear recommendations to make your battles as smooth as possible, minimizing losses.

But you're on Sandy though... which I doubt has any good defense fleets.

up to you to not change it at the moment.

[rustic bridge]

I hate enty

[neon bronze]

🧂

[rustic bridge]

I can never win on enterprise

[candid sluice]

enty hate club rise up

[brave ridge]

@winged depot Can u move?

[empty mesa]

Kaine

Veston probably already at 5/10 with this rank tho.

[candid sluice]

oops

[fickle echo]

[candid sluice]

tried to ping kaine

[lusty hill]

How do you guys get good bonus in early season

I waited like 8 hours and nobody moved

Why I always get lazy people on early season

[candid sluice]

no mover tap refresh

[lusty hill]

How long should I wait until I refresh?

[brave ridge]

around 1-3h can u tap Refresh, dont forget 5 refreshes per day

[lusty hill]

Ok thanks

I hope someone moved by the time I woke up tomorrow

[deft escarp]

How about my fleet?

Maybe I should go back to using a proper defense fleet early since I'm not gonna hard bag this season chasing top 1

[floral wave]

how do you judge that without seeing the gear

the same gear ... as in 460 musashi?

maybe mk7 nj too and wyvern/tenrai/wyvern nano

this is just an example, no offense