pvp

[still minnow]

why do you put rudders on vg and not boilers? doesnt vg just die to new jersey?

[coral wren]

No?

At least I haven't had that issue

[still minnow]

I have that issue

NJ barrage kills vg if it isn't fast enough to outrun

[untold crater]

Nah it's very hard to outrun Musashi barrage, NJ barrage is less annoying this hers

[still minnow]

idk why I haven't had any issues with musashi barrage, very weird

[untold crater]

More speed Means it's more likely that your VG runs out of Ancho SS

[still minnow]

I'll pay close attention to it next time

[untold crater]

Fleet comp i sent you can probably be improved and might not even be the best selection of ships from your waifus, but it seems like it's what will work best

If you find something isn't working you should be able to swap and for other things and maybe find an improvement

[still minnow]

👍

[untold crater]

You could probably slot in cosmic kicks there

But im not the biggest fan personally of them

[still minnow]

why do other people like thema nd why do you not like them

[untold crater]

Because Eva speed

And because when i tested them i found no real improvements in my WR

[still minnow]

well they're worse than boiler for speed, and worse than rudder for eva

if you want speed use boiler, if you want eva use rudder

seems weird to just be bad at both?

[untold crater]

It's a best if both worlds kind of thing

[still minnow]

is it best though?

[untold crater]

As a compromise? Kinda yeah

[still minnow]

why do you not like it then?

I tried it and it felt bad to me also

[untold crater]

Just because the comps i used back then we're heavily favored for quick battles and using Eva/speed aux instead of say oxy torp reduce my damage

[still minnow]

ok

maybe I'm overvaluing the rudder skill

[sleek heron]

i've seen Harbin tossed around as a vanguard slot for pvp, is that still a thing or is running juneau better?

sushi/nj/aquila+anchor/shima/jun atm

[untold crater]

What i used personally, since the main Harbin setup i see needs oath for that extra rld, and i cba to use alt load out, easier to just use Juneau

[still minnow]

oh btw

any ideas if the pirate squadron 5% AA buff stacks?

like if 3 preloads with it equipped launch, do you get 15% AA buff?

I know skills don't stack

but this is a buff, not a skill, so is that different?

are there any buffs in this game that we know do stack?

[untold crater]

afaik it doesn't stack

And probably means double crossbow doesn't stack either in augs(?)

[still minnow]

I think crossbow explicitly says that it can't stack

[untold crater]

So maybe consider swapping out one bow for sword

[still minnow]

any bets on whether we'll get a rainbow fighter sometime soon? xD

trying to decide whether to +13 fighters or save the parts for some time in the future

[untold crater]

Would be fun

[sleek heron]

i see, will keep the current setup then, only lost 2 fights using it so far so it's pretty reliable

i do have manjuu on anchor instead of nj mostly b/c i use anchor in other pve areas and is too lazy to swap equips just for pvp

[still minnow]

am I missing any way to get gold upgrade parts other than opsi rng and guild shop?

[untold crater]

Guild boss

[still minnow]

I slacked on a few months of opsi and I'm regretting that now xDDD

[leaden sky]

Cruise pass

[untold crater]

Just don't let your AP cap out, and clear all your zones/abyssals/hidden/stronghold/arbiter

[untold crater]

And wallet too i guess

[leaden sky]

But those are mostly the source of gold plates

[still minnow]

yeah, but I was literally not even touching it cuz I got tired of the game being the same for like 2 years straight

[untold crater]

Yeah did the same myself a while back

[still minnow]

they started doing UE and retrofits again so I started palying some more

[leaden sky]

Regularly clearing opsi and missions, shops + guild operations

[sleek heron]

UR just takes way too many gold plates, relative to gold equips

[still minnow]

the 2 years of no retrofits really made me unhappy with the game

[trail temple]

Adding AA radar to suggested VGs - check
Using Plymouth in CV fleet - check

Might put these in the spreadsheet

[still minnow]

maybe try learning how to read while you're at it

[trail temple]

Maybe you should try being less defensive

[still minnow]

no sorry you started it

people like you really piss me off

[trail temple]

I didn't, there's nothing wrong with personally trying new things

And let's not start drama here please

[untold crater]

unbelievable

[still minnow]

let's not start drama here??? you're the one who's mocking me out of nowhere for no reason

you think I'm so stupid that I don't notice?

[trail temple]

If you feel that way, I apologise, that wasn't my intention

[candid sluice]

[winged depot]

[still minnow]

what was your intention?

[wicked surge]

🍿

[still minnow]

if I am overreacting then that is my bad

[merry vale]

[trail temple]

I think you are, there could be merit in what you've done. Only until other people have tested it can we really see it

[untold crater]

🧯 💨

[still minnow]

you haven't explained what your intention was

[trail temple]

I just did

[still minnow]

uhuh

[trail temple]

I'm going to give it a try myself and see whether I should add it to the spreadsheet

[still minnow]

have a good one

[trail temple]

I will, you too

[candid sluice]

🤝

[still minnow]

[winged depot]

too long to backread, I sleep

[zealous wasp]

🍿

[candid sluice]

holy shit is that alox from the avrora server

[zealous wasp]

omg where 👀

[candid sluice]

im a big fan

[stable dawn]

[neon bronze]

@floral wave dis u?

[untold crater]

[neon bronze]

||(i lost)||

[untold crater]

This dude runs serious fleet on amagi server

[winged depot]

could've just retreat

[untold crater]

What a noob

[winged depot]

nice

[neon bronze]

truly a moment

[candid sluice]

damn

me personally i wouldnt take that

[neon bronze]

Anchorage didn't proc EUEDC yet

So i went for it

[trail temple]

Alpha moment

[neon bronze]

@untold crater i assume you have a 5/10 at this very moment?

once reset happens, please move

thx

[neon bronze]

rather take risks to win rather than staying relatively safe

[untold crater]

You have me?

[neon bronze]

skill issue by rngesus

[untold crater]

Are you 5/10 right now?

[neon bronze]

ye too

[untold crater]

I'm 9/10 so I'll move before the set ends

[neon bronze]

kk

[winged depot]

yukana not overcapped

[untold crater]

Should be close to a bonus after that, what score you at?

[trail temple]

I respect that

Genuinely

[untold crater]

That's how i win

[neon bronze]

1273

[untold crater]

And it's also how i lose

[trail temple]

Go hard or go home

It's how you get 2600

Or you know, have a collusion ring and an army of alts

[neon bronze]

i'd stay relatively safe on emulator though, since it slow af

[winged depot]

living on the edge and have 2 fights at 1 minute left

[neon bronze]

actuallly... my greatest fear is internet instability

[trail temple]

Famine stalled me

[winged depot]

I got stalled by james last time

[neon bronze]

ima move 5 min after reset then ig

[untold crater]

dont fight me after then

[neon bronze]

?

[untold crater]

ill be +31 not a bonus

[neon bronze]

ok then

i'll wait 15 min instead

[untold crater]

ill ping u when i go to 9/10

[untold crater]

@neon bronze I'm +11 for you right?

[neon bronze]

Ye

Late response, aight

[winged depot]

nice list

[floral wave]

@neon bronze ye that was me, also fell asleep and overcapped

[neon bronze]

ok fleet

[ocean prairie]

Wrong channel oops

[rustic bridge]

Parser mushi time

[lusty hill]

What should I do in this situation

This often happens when opponent have anchorage and shimakaze

[rustic bridge]

Can i win of this

[lusty hill]

What's your fleet?

[rustic bridge]

[lusty hill]

Just try it and quit if you're about to lose

I think you'll win

[rustic bridge]

Lose fdg barrege has fast my Front clear

[lusty hill]

Switch musashi to flagship

[rustic bridge]

Need only better gears of this

[candid sluice]

try better ships 💀

[lusty hill]

Use champy gun on seydlitz

[rustic bridge]

[rustic bridge]

Are my best ships on time

How should i win of this

[lusty hill]

Show your entire dock

Is it allowed to do that in pvp channel?

[untold crater]

Nah his fleet is meta

[untold crater]

Click that pause button and restart battle

[lusty hill]

Really? I never seen people use Lexington or pamiat

[candid sluice]

its new meta

[lusty hill]

Wait really? Lemme check the sheet

🤔

[uncut agate]

satlybelfast has his own meta

[neon bronze]

Ty. Did it late, was touching grass irl.

[lusty hill]

Btw why do people in rank 3000s seems to have crazy strong defense lol

[candid sluice]

5 ticket daily burners

[neon bronze]

Probably ppl who overcapped, and gave up. Looks like a lot

Or maybe it's just some veterans doing a funny

[zenith lantern]

He could win, he just chooses not to.

[neon bronze]

New best rank.

If only I could've sandbagged. Impossible, given my student responsibilities and timezone.

[rustic bridge]

what i make can is this

For pvp

Or this use zeppy buff for defensive

Realy my bbs shot not

Lose my back line make nothing

i can never more as 1 game win on pvp

[neon bronze]

It'd be funny if we all asked the veterans to change to hard fleets

hard-to-beat defense fleets (by beginner standards)

Just a thought of mine. No need to make good on this

[steel coral]

[stable dawn]

just play on Washington.

[untold crater]

He said hard to beat

Aoste uses mafia there

[sacred heath]

There's more tryhards in washy these days

Not tryhard enough

But still

[stable dawn]

Aoste doesn't even make top 3 anymore.

[sacred heath]

I stand by my defense fleet

[river gale]

can someone help me with a pvp fleet?

[untold crater]

What ya need

[still minnow]

@untold crater here's some old meta stuff. There's no musashi fleets for me to test against for whatever reason. But also consider that I have a lvl 120 ship and a bunch of gear is only at +10. https://youtu.be/Yg7ZtZl5ugE

[untold crater]

Yeah these fleets are very low FP for mafia, usually see 17k/15.5k+ mafias, these were like 15k/14k Mafias

I guess that's normal for lower ranks

[still minnow]

ok I'll look for 17k next reset

[untold crater]

With your new fleet, mafias should be pretty easy to beat

Musashi fleets you might struggle a bit with tho

[still minnow]

👍

so anything short of musashi fleets isn't worth testing against

[untold crater]

Essentially

[deft escarp]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/813201672176009256/1041437706686828705/unknown.png?width=573&height=575

What should I change here?

Don't have a Tenrai currently

[winged depot]

looks good

[royal beacon]

the 8 seconds invincibility thing go on Anchorage

[winged depot]

oh true you don't have manjuu on ancho

[deft escarp]

So Manjuu on Anchorage replacing washing machine?

[winged depot]

probably

haven't tried cosmic kicks myself

[trail temple]

Why have 1 heel when you can have two?

[untold crater]

Have 0

[trail temple]

Not the worst idea ever

[deft escarp]

Oh yeah

I'm using quad mag on Anchorage for Shinana

The vg kinda fast enough to evade NJ's shells

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/715691640987320377.webp?size=128&quality=lossless

Only setting a strong defense fleet to try to annoy some ppl ngl

[candid sluice]

based

[lusty hill]

I overcapped and lost 3 tries

can I still get aotn

[winged depot]

Doable

[untold crater]

[candid sluice]

pace check

[lusty hill]

I'm 1385 with 9/10 now

I lost 4 times last season and barely made it to aotn

[candid sluice]

;pace 9 1385

[west matrix]

Is there any better gear I can slap on for better fp

[warm crow]

twin 410, staag/hazemeyer AA, white shell, hpfcr

[west matrix]

K

[untold crater]

These equip or that gun there both better

[frigid hamlet]

rainbow = neurons activated

[lunar echo]

I'm guessing this is Bahasa Indonesia, anyone know what it says?

[untold crater]

I see UR i see Exercise

I speak not 1 word of Indo but I'll guess he's complaining about UR ships in every defense fleet

[lunar echo]

Something like that, probably

[lusty hill]

"Without UR exercise will be more challenging"

[lunar echo]

lol, nice

[lunar echo]

I appreciate the translation

I do like those meme fleets that spell out sentences, it's a nice little reprieve from the deluge of meeb and mafia

I always smile whenever Waifu x Waifu pops up on my screen

[still minnow]

what's meeb

[untold crater]

Musashi weeb

Musashi/Shinano/Hiryuu

[merry vale]

I made my defense team the super annoying aspects of a stall comp with hood as my flag just to establish dominance.

[frosty goblet]

[candid sluice]

Indonesian 💀

[still minnow]

where did the "it sucks being indonesian" thing come from

I keep seeing it but I don't know why lul

[candid sluice]

Because it does suck

[still minnow]

why's that

I need the deep lore

[candid sluice]

It’s a sea country

[untold crater]

SEA 😔

[lusty hill]

it's just sucks

[frosty goblet]

S*A 😭

[untold crater]

SA? 🥺

[frosty goblet]

Both technically suck right ?

[candid sluice]

Sea countries 🤝 being bad places to live

[frosty goblet]

[still minnow]

why are SEA countries bad places to live

[frosty goblet]

They just are

No justification required

[still minnow]

I'm saving up money to probably go somewhere around there rn so this is relevant information for me lmao

[lusty hill]

if you're a native it's bad but if you're american or european moving here then it's paradise

[still minnow]

not indonesia specifically, but understanding the countries in that area is useful

[still minnow]

yeah what I heard is that asia is basically paradise for a north american that's tired of north america

what about it makes it shit for natives but good for foreigners?

[candid sluice]

Economy 💀 weather 💀 people 💀

[untold crater]

SEA weather

[still minnow]

what's wrong with the weather

[lusty hill]

just bring all your dollars money here and you''ll be a literal millionare even if you're below average

[untold crater]

Feels like every time i hear about a Typhoon it's in ph

[candid sluice]

It’s either really hot or raining all the time

[untold crater]

So unstable

[still minnow]

I like the rain. Don't like the heat. LOL

[candid sluice]

U can live pretty comfortably if u move from a western country

Cus you’ll be stacked on money after converting

[still minnow]

I've lived the 23 years of my life so far in a place that's flat, sparsely populated, with no weather whatsoever.

like purgatory

[trail temple]

https://youtu.be/vE_g18J4CIA
Mission accomplished, we stopped Aquila from revealing our carriers. However, didn't really make a dent on the backline so it lost every match

[pseudo copper]

It's obviously the level difference that's making you do nothing to backline

[still minnow]

he's just trying to bait me

man's got nothing better to do than clone the fleet of a random dude on the internet and make a video about it to try and piss them off

[winged depot]

? that's him trying out your comp

and he's actually in a place to test it

[still minnow]

right which is why he's missing like 12 cumulative levels

and doesn't show the gear

[floral wave]

you can assume best gear

[winged depot]

his gears are obviously the optimal

[floral wave]

and if youd ask im pretty sure hed show it

[still minnow]

uhuh

[winged depot]

only thing that's off is the underlevel albion

[floral wave]

and first of all he actually made this fleet achieve something

[still minnow]

and the tank missing 5 levels

[winged depot]

[pseudo copper]

5 levels truly make a bad comp good

[winged depot]

that's no tank in the first place

[floral wave]

levels wont change the outcome

[still minnow]

even if, hypothetically, levels change nothing, it's still blatantly in bad faith

[winged depot]

whut

[floral wave]

i mean, you said you dont have anyone to test it against

[pseudo copper]

[neon bronze]

Fuck. I overcapped

[floral wave]

he has that possibility

wheres the bad faith

[neon bronze]

Forgot to bring my phone to school

[untold crater]

[winged depot]

yeah like his testing grounds is of the "best of the best fleets"

[neon bronze]

Ahh i'll give up on t100 for this season for now. Going for merits

[floral wave]

desceiption he added is just the accurate description of what this fleet is capable of

[still minnow]

if you need me to spell it out to you then there's no point in continuing this conversation

[floral wave]

yeah if youre dumb theres really none

stop being edgy

[untold crater]

score? 🤔

[floral wave]

not everyones trying to ruin your day

[dreamy lance]

Breaking news: EN's highest ranked player during the tournament is testing a composition in bad faith due to his desire to antagonise a random player in Azur Lane Official's discord server PVP gamemode.

What a travesty!

[neon bronze]

Haven't logged in yet, Ima rush Path to Nowhere today

[winged depot]

dude, like he tested something out of his time for you and then you say something like he's just baiting you?

[floral wave]

path to nowhere, that sounds exactly like al pvp

[neon bronze]

Arknights with some more QoL and a gameplay twist.

Back on topic,

[pseudo copper]

You obv missed it, it's the level difference

[trail temple]

I'm always for trying novel ideas. If they work, I add it to the WIP spreadsheet, and if they don't, well at least we tried it

[trail temple]

[dreamy lance]

:MurmKEK:

[floral wave]

does the spreadsheet ever stop being WIP?

[pseudo copper]

Nah, obviously you are trying to just trying to sabotage the image of his fleet

[pseudo copper]

No, AL pvp keeps changing, only time it'll stop being WIP is when nothing changes

And no one bothers to try new things

[winged depot]

don't see it in the docs but what tier is mafia now, t2?

[dreamy lance]

T2 likely, but T0 to our god Aoste

[winged depot]

oh i'm blind it was there

[dreamy lance]

TEX maybe

[trail temple]

That's harsh my man

[dreamy lance]

Aoste is the world's biggest Mafia believer and its best player, the world of Azur Lane was too small for him so he moved to Counter:Side

[floral wave]

is he the biggest tho

[dreamy lance]

Yes.

[floral wave]

what about mk

[trail temple]

We can't be toxic here, I'm only here to learn PvP and help others with PvP @pseudo copper

[winged depot]

I mean if it works it still works and that's what he believes in

[pseudo copper]

We can't be toxic, just seems like you are toxic to this random waifu fleet that is obviously meta

[dreamy lance]

No shaming to Dr. Aoste in this server is allowed!

[pseudo copper]

When will you eos

[floral wave]

not this season, nikke killed it

[dreamy lance]

MK got 2590, overcap warrior shouldn't talk bad about him.

[floral wave]

sleep also killed it

[winged depot]

stryk score is doable if no overcapping

[floral wave]

ofc it is

[dreamy lance]

2591 in fact according to the EOS logs

[winged depot]

oh wait, eos

thought it was aotn only mb

[pseudo copper]

Stryk overcaps more than Yukana

[floral wave]

true

[winged depot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/665062713076088848.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

[candid sluice]

fleet testing

[neon bronze]

yet somehow someone got pepega

[untold crater]

[candid sluice]

wtf does pepega mean

[neon bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-smiling-green-frog-clap-clapping-gif-15400349

[stable dawn]

what is pvp?

[floral wave]

path to nowhere

[stable dawn]

Does that mean pvp is real life?

[floral wave]

mk would surely agree with this statement

[deft escarp]

Should I use cata+avi gas on Hiryuu or stick to avi gas+badge?

[merry vale]

You're not using her flag with the WNT?

I'd probably stick to the badge between those two though.

[deft escarp]

I'm using Musashi flag with WNT

I might put WNT on her though for flag if it's better

With badge on Musashi

Or awakening pearl

[zinc phoenix]

Badge? Beaver?

[deft escarp]

Yeah

I'm using badge+hpfcr on Musashi

[neon bronze]

i overcapped thrice in a row (depression) and got a +16

[trail temple]

Redeemed 6 points

[remote crystal]

Does helena scan still work on concealed CVs in pvp?

[untold crater]

Yeah

[vapid mango]

Lmao my Heinrich has been like this since the first event back in 2021... Trying to rise on top while only having a purple main gun 😂😂😂 (while the others all had gold or rainbow main guns)

[untold crater]

[trail temple]

Yesterday got me thinking, triple CV might be possible. The fleet I copied has definitely given me inspiration

[neon bronze]

Gotta credit Sorrydough. What makes it possible in your opinion?

[trail temple]

It'll all depend on whether I can do enough damage outside of Ancho's timing

Otherwise will need to try another strat

[tribal raptor]

that singular number one scares me, holy-

[floral wave]

why, thats literally all you wish you could see

every time

[untold crater]

Wow his FP is low

But that fleet u used is better

[stoic moon]

logios deleted

[untold crater]

Your guildie schooled bro

[stoic moon]

deserves it for being a rusher

[untold crater]

That's why? And not a

😭

[stoic moon]

😭should be using 😭fleet

[winged depot]

Rushers are stacked with points these days

[deft escarp]

This fleet was kinda annoying ngl

Dcp on NJ seemed to be better

[winged depot]

I want to fight a fleet like that, haven't encountered one so far

[deft escarp]

It was really annoying lol

Once I put the Manjuu on NJ she survived long enough to fire a second salvo and kill them off before Hiryuu's FC finished

[lunar echo]

[candid sluice]

Manju nj new meta

[steel coral]

May I interest you in an Impero and/or Independence?

[trail temple]

I did use Indep ngl

[merry vale]

So, what torps do you run on harbin in pvp? I'm 9 prints from completing her.

She seems a little less straightforward than anchorage, since i assume she still wants damage even if she loses out on some speed?

[trail temple]

General consensus is the hms straight torps

Quint mags not great because your smoke would be too late iirc

[merry vale]

Alright, thank you.

[violet kernel]

Is Harbin good in pvp?

I have her at Dev 30, and I feel like my pvp vanguard is suboptimal.

[royal beacon]

Yes

[violet kernel]

Naisu

I guess I should try out Jesus Juneau Retrofit too

Any suggestions for the third spot?

Backline I’ve been running is NJ, Vanguard, and the Enterprise for safety

[royal beacon]

Preload CVs or Shinano/Hiryuu would be better than Enterprise

[candid sluice]

Anchorag

[violet kernel]

I like Enterprise for the frequent damage immunity and because I can restart-scum lol

I would have a hard time giving it up.

But yeah, sometimes I do miss the preload shit-barrage.

[violet kernel]

Achoo-rage is pretty good. I’m already relying on her pretty heavily in PvP.

She has DD evasion to match her DD-brain

[candid sluice]

you wouldnt have to tap reset button if you didnt use enterprise

[violet kernel]

Kek

[deft escarp]

I need Harbin to cause the maximum amount of emotional damage to people who fight my defense fleet

[neon bronze]

how do you sandbag?

wait until before reset (?)
stalk one of the four opponents beforehand
either wait for them to use their exercises OR ask them to do their exercises
5/10 exercises before resets

hel0

help

[stable dawn]

People ask each other to do exercises???

[frigid hamlet]

Every minute of the day, refresh the game to see if anyone moved.
Pick them if you get a bonus.
When you're about to get 5 more attacks, dump your attacks quickly.
Fail and overcap

[frigid hamlet]

And then there are more advanced strategies like refreshing your list at a certain time or colluding

[trail temple]

Enterprise only has immunity during her airstrike window. She's vulnerable outside of that. If she is revealed then battleships can nuke her, Hiryuu can also hit her outside of that window if her airstrike procs Final Counter.

Actually, I take that back, Enterprise can still be rammed during Lucky E

(i.e. she can die during her Lucky E window)

[lusty hill]

There's ramming damage in pvp?

[azure swan]

theres always ramming damage

[violet kernel]

It is not like I’ll count on Enterprise taking out the vanguard if she is the last one standing. At that point is when I restart.

But she does well enough cleaning out the main fleet at the end.

[torpid shuttle]

lucky E doesnt proc on crash dmg does it

[whole salmon]

Enterprise’s lucky E has a lot of weaknesses

• Spotting from preload or early load CVs

• BBs with less than 20 sec cd guns, which are commonly used in pvp

• Hiryuu

There’s always the case of winning the frontline fight or having Shima torps 1 shot her out of the gate

If you have proper gear, Shinano is a much better option

But if your best CV is Enterprise then you likely don’t have top tier gear anyways

[neon bronze]

is worth crafting that EU AP BB gun for Warspite, pvp purposes? only have 1 457 and it's on Vanguard rn

[steel coral]

if you're using both in pvp then 457 on warspite and mk4 on vanguard

[trail temple]

To add to that, you want Vanguard firing before Warspite as well

[neon bronze]

i think with same equip, vanguard fires a bit faster than warspite

Unless if i'm wrong

[floral wave]

case was only 1 457

[untold crater]

Even then

[trail temple]

If you use 2 457s, then yes Vanguard will fire first. However, the case given only has one 457 available. If you equip it on Vanguard and the mk4 on Warspite, then Warspite will fire first, which means you wouldn't get Vanguard's BB buff. (Below calcs assume HPFCR/AFCR on ships)
Vanguard with 457: R = 0.85(20.65(200/(178x1.2+100))^0.5) = 14.02s
Warspite with mk4: R = 0.85(18.95(200/(181+100))^0.5) = 13.59s

[neon bronze]

thank god musashi only wants ijn main guns to perform well

[dreamy lance]

Better to use faster gun on Vanguard so she gets her on-load bonus to buff WK shots, 457 on WK is also better because better damage vs heavy and she's the one hitting the backline most often (which more often than not, means sniping NJ/Musashi)

[trail temple]

If my skills are on point, Warkai's barrage does scale off of her FP stat

So even more reason to use 457

[neon bronze]

Musashi - Vanguard or Musashi - Warspite, assuming the third one is either a Hiryuu or a preload carrier?

[trail temple]

Probably Vanguard

She offers more to the team than Warspite

[untold crater]

Vanguard any day

[violet kernel]

Don’t go making assumptions. Only ships I don’t have are New Orleans and a couple of the Neps. I need to get myself a second copy of the PR DB, but otherwise I’m not lacking.
I’m just not a big fan of the bunny wolf carriers.

Shit, sorry for ping

I guess I could give Enty a break and drag Fat Floof out of bed to serve PvP duty again.

[rustic bridge]

Win is impossible on this fleet or

[untold crater]

Yeah not possible

[rustic bridge]

10 from 10 lose on this say no luck

[marsh fog]

how is dat impossible

[untold crater]

Not possible

[rustic bridge]

To hight lv ships more fleet power

[marsh fog]

you can out gear them so idk what u mean

and hav a good team comp

[untold crater]

If SaltyBelfast can't win, nobody can

[rustic bridge]

[ancient raptor]

Fleet power never was strength indicator

[marsh fog]

a 9k can win against a 14k

[rustic bridge]

every time self

[ancient raptor]

You can pause > retreat. Do you know right?

[rustic bridge]

is usless win ob luck 1 game

[marsh fog]

💀

[untold crater]

Yeah not useful

[candid sluice]

i heard italian fleet is meta

[rustic bridge]

enty and warspite are harder

[candid sluice]

shiver me timbers enty

[violet kernel]

Fooking pasta botes

[south leaf]

How to always win in pvp
Vanguard:Duca degli, juneau, and shimakaze
Main:aquila, perseus, and any battleships

Build?

Haha...

No

[empty mesa]

Reset.

[rich cedar]

is harbin's second torp launch slow enough to miss Anchor's shield from torp preload?

[frigid hamlet]

Yes, especially when harbin is third slot behind Shimakaze and enemy anchorage is first slot but imagine hitting the enemy vanguard with mk ix

Shield procs almost immediately so it's gone by 4 seconds into the battle. Smoke is until 5 seconds, but harbins delay and torpedo travel time put it well after 5 seconds

[empty mesa]

[stoic moon]

entire guild getting clapped

[untold crater]

Nah he's on a mission

Hide your fleets

[candid sluice]

Holy shit he bodied bucherlord

Man is unstoppable

[winged depot]

unultra is the next target

[neon bronze]

Wait, he's in Amagi server?

Fucking wysi time FUCK

Should I use a waifu fleet as my defense fleet

[winged depot]

I see nothing wrong with it

I also run with a waifu fleet

as a defense

[merry vale]

Stall waifu fleet, mostly just to annoy people with bad teams.

[candid sluice]

musashi shinano shimakaze are my wifus so i have them on defense

[lusty hill]

no one is climbing during maintenance right?

[untold crater]

Only cowards

[lusty hill]

What's the best torpedo for ayanami?

[floral wave]

mark IX

aka teatorp

[lusty hill]

Thanks

If I'm 10 and my leftmost is 40 will I get reduced score?

[pseudo copper]

Thanks for the compliment

[pseudo copper]

Yeah, if they are lower rank than you means lower score = reduced score

[lusty hill]

So the higher rank I get the more likely to get lower rank in the leftmost?

Is it normal? Should I refresh?

[pseudo copper]

Yeah, you can refresh or just not 0 out, I personally just 0'd out since can't be bothered to bag this season

[lusty hill]

Does attacking even lower rank give more lower score or it will still be 9?

[pseudo copper]

Yes

It'll decrease more if the difference is similar to the bonus point difference

[neon bronze]

I dislike 8 hr maints.

3 pm -> 11 pm

[empty mesa]

SEA moment.

[neon bronze]

• family moment

[coral wren]

And when it gets delayed for another few hours, they're eager to go back and do pvp attempts

[lusty hill]

lol same

It might as well a 16h maint for me since I'll be asleep when the maintenance ends

[trail temple]

I was trying to have an easy season... but now I have to get up mid sleep

[surreal perch]

why do some people put low level girls in pvp def team? or it doesn't lose the points if gets attacked and lost?

[uncut agate]

It doesn't lose points

[untold crater]

Defense fleet doesn't matter

Actually better to put easy fleet so your opponent get more points and you get more since they're higher also

[quartz gull]

Im thinking of changing my PvP lien up, using Essex and satatoga presently, but thinking of swapping one out for Enterprise, who'd be better to swap out (satratoge is fully retrofit) and i have a picture of their gear line ups

[untold crater]

Show dock

[rustic bridge]

on what can i win

[lunar echo]

None of them

PvP is impossible

[rustic bridge]

yes 0 wins

[digital peak]

Wich is the point to introduce a lot o ship if ever ill fight against this fleet, i consider necesary a monthly ban units sistem

[floral wave]

who told you theres a point to introduce a lot of ships

also, theres this thing called attacker advantage

[deft escarp]

Attackers have like 20% dmg reduction right?

[merry vale]

[stable dawn]

wow a fellow washy player?

fleet's not even hard. Just run mirror comp except replace Juneau with Harbin and torp them to death. EZ win.

Wait their Juneau is in mid position??? Even easier win because their Shimakaze would sink early from airstrikes and not get full value.

[valid oxide]

Do special airstrikes usually do crash damage?

[stoic moon]

does it have planes

[candid sluice]

middle pos juneau new meta

gotta protect the heal for as long as possible

[trail temple]

All banlists do is replace one meta with another

The meta will be no less toxic/uncompetitive in reality

[whole salmon]

• If you mean this exact fleet then that’s pretty new since Musashi is there
• If you mean it is an Aquila 2BB fleet in general then it started May of last year
  => That’s only a meta that has been in the game for just a year and a half

And the game is already on its 4th anniversary on EN this year

So I don’t quite see what the “the fleets in pvp don’t change” that you are talking about

[lusty hill]

Is there way to reduce plane crash damage?

[whole salmon]

You shoot down the planes

+13 AA guns and +13 Wyvern

Slap in a Pirate as well

Crossbow Aug on CLs

[lusty hill]

Vanguard AA or backline?

[whole salmon]

Both

It’s not like AA gun plates is currently used for anything else

Get like 2 +13 Staags

For backline

Then +13 AA for all of frontline

[lusty hill]

I use ancho ayanami Juneau are they have good chance killing planes

[whole salmon]

Just give Juneau and Ancho +13 Sextuple

Then the DD +13 Staag

If you see an AA gun in the fleet then just +13 it

If a new ships becomes meta then just switch gear

[lusty hill]

Ok then

[whole salmon]

Spotting also helps

[lusty hill]

What's spotting?

[whole salmon]

When you reveal enemy CV

They would deal less damage

[lusty hill]

Welp I don't use preload cv anymore

Does that mean if I get spotted mt plane will deal less crash damage?

[whole salmon]

If your CV isn’t preload then pretty much. You would deal less than if you weren’t spotted

Which is why we makes up for it by just dealing more alpha damage through Wyverns

[lusty hill]

I only have one sextuple

any good alternative?

[winged depot]

twin 113 or the pr 4 AA gun

[lusty hill]

should I +13 that too or wait till I get another sextuple?

[winged depot]

wait for sextuple

[neon bronze]

Hmm

The old Nagato - Amagi - Hiryuu PvP comp. Been thinking of replacing Nagato with Musashi ever simce I saw MetagrossMaxis' dock.

The guy doesn't have Hiryuu raised yet though, so choices are ehh.

[zinc phoenix]

Why does aya want plus13 staag?

[candid sluice]

bonus hit stat

[zinc phoenix]

why plus13?

[pseudo copper]

Bc might as well +13 AA for just a tad bit more damage. AA plates aren't in low quantity to worry about minmaxing their use

There is priority on what to +13 first

But might as well +13 everything

[whole salmon]

If you can +13 it then might as well do it

It’s not like you would spend AA plates on anything else

If anything, you could switch that Staag to a BB later on if needed

[surreal perch]

how to deal with shimakaze? she is pretty much evades everything. i mean she is fast

[untold crater]

Use Shimakaze

[neon bronze]

best bet is to burst enemy vanguard except for Anchorage

Aquila/Chise/Perseus for example. Alternatively an Ayanami with augment is fine for pvp purposes. If you finished Harbin dev30, she can do, too.

~~Don't ~~Rely on BB damage against her e.g. NJ's 15s barrage, UvH off-flag. As you have said, she is fast as fuck she might as well be Sonic. Le Terrible is faster than her by a bit but she's meh here

[uncut agate]

Shima dies fast to BBs

[neon bronze]

if the salvos manage to hit

[uncut agate]

BBs have strong secondary guns

[lusty hill]

What BB to counter her?

[uncut agate]

the regular BBs, Musashi/NJ/Vanguard/UvH
and as yukana said, use your own shima

[surreal perch]

i don't have those priority ships tho.. i started the game a year ago but played 2 months then left. just returned

[neon bronze]

show dock

[surreal perch]

can't now. i'm farming epic 7

[rustic bridge]

Habe where gear Tips for this

[rustic bridge]

never can i win

[merry vale]

Damn, Musashi with a +3 Grey gun isn't carrying?!?!

[rustic bridge]

i have not better ijn guns

Become never good gears

[merry vale]

Yeah material costs are too high.

Who just happens to have these mats laying around?

[rustic bridge]

@merry vale

[merry vale]

Better get opening those boxes.

[verbal skiff]

so...
how hard would double ryusei shinano and hakuryuu paired with formi with 1 ryusei do against a vanguard fleet?
(with aviation frontier medal equipped)

[merry vale]

You want parallel torps for pvp though.

[verbal skiff]

I just like seeing the sakura torps

[merry vale]

That team also sounds too slow for pvp as well.

I mean sure most stuff works but you'll take tons of damage before any of those carriers sign the paperwork to start thinking about launching their air strikes.

[floral wave]

that team will die before first launch

and if you manage to get them to launch you'll hit all torps into ancho or harbin smoke

eva rate/eva rate + avi dmg reduction

[merry vale]

40% evasion 35% anti CV damage, only a tiny bit of damage reduction.

[deft escarp]

[hearty pebble]

When you tap on people on the PvP leaderboard and it shows you their fleet, is that their defense or offense fleet?

[floral wave]

defense

theres no way to track someones offense fleet unless they share it

[hearty pebble]

I'm thinking Seattle, Juneau, Helena for vanguard. Any suggestions?

[warm crow]

no anchorage?

[hearty pebble]

I am still building her, I plan to replace Seattle with her when she's done (probably in about 3 weeks)

[untold crater]

Show dock

[hearty pebble]

I have pretty much everyone but the PR 4-5 ships, and any stage ships from 11-3 onward

[floral wave]

you could use musashi instead of indep

and shima/noshiro/juneau instead of helena/seattle

[serene granite]

Missed shimakaze and don't have anchorage, currently running duca, ayanami kai, and kitakaze. Any suggestions for vanguard pvp

[winged depot]

with all the available ones currently, I would say change kitakaze for noshiro

[neon bronze]

You want mostly torps on vanguards, anyway

Juneau oj current meta i think is an exception

[trail temple]

You're going to need to time them so that the freeze happens at the right time to catch the vanguard, otherwise you're wasting your time.

You will likely be revealed so you won't have the 20% damage boost (doesn't really matter if you're attacking).

Depending on Anchorage's torps, she may block it completely with a combination of her shield or her smoke screen.

Personally, I would say that the German fighters are better where you can use them and use the German Torpedo bomber over the sakura torps because they converge a little better, they don't drop further back like the Japanese torp bombers which means they have a greater chance of missing.

Other than that, it's an amusing gimmick, when it works

[neon bronze]

What's the best No UR ship PvP fleet, and has it been tested? UR rarity gears are permitted

[lusty hill]

Aotn

[trail temple]

I am assuming DR is included in the UR exclusion?

Vanguard is pretty simple

(The) Vanguard*

[neon bronze]

Yes

Backline though... thinking of Mafia but without NJ

[winged depot]

musashi easily

[trail temple]

We did use mafia + hiryuu during the period of Italian event and NJ event

And that was favoured over the IJN comp which had Shinano

But at the time, we didn't have Anchorage

[winged depot]

anchorage changed the meta massively huh

[trail temple]

There was also mafia + riche variants

[neon bronze]

But with Anchorage... what's the consensus?

[trail temple]

With anchorage, you can either just raw power it with SSRs that have augments (Taihoe may work)

I am tempted to try foxes again

[neon bronze]

What was this fleet? Curious abt it

[trail temple]

Because they can strike before smoke

[neon bronze]

true

[trail temple]

The prototype mafia fleet?

[neon bronze]

Asked for the IJN comp with shinano, thiugh asking for the prototype mafia is worth knowing, too

[trail temple]

Nagato, Shinano, Hiryuu, Juneau, Azuma, Seattle was the IJN comp

And the proto mafia, was something like:
Riche/Hiryuu, VV, Aquila, Juneau, Duca, Seattle

Seattle got phased out once NJ cemented herself in the meta

[candid sluice]

i thought we used nj with seattle

[trail temple]

Phased out

[neon bronze]

2 months in between NJ event and PR4 release...

[trail temple]

So we did, but then we started using other options

Like Noshi and duca for semi torp meme

Vanguard changes kinda went like this:
Juneau - Azuma/Noshi/ykkz - Seattle (End of OpSi introduction)
To
Juneau - Duca - Seattle (Italian event)
To
Juneau - Duca - Seattle/Noshi (NJ introduction)
To
Anchorage - Duca - Noshi (pr4 introduction)
and finally
Anchorage - Shima - Duca (Shima release)

May have missed a step somewhere

[bleak jewel]

Aotn

First time ever

[winged depot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/528197562998718474/1042575845937655829/grab.gif

good job john

[bleak jewel]

Thank you, Veston.

[candid sluice]

congrats

[trail temple]

Congrats John

[bleak jewel]

Glad I did it immediately 8 on the dot in my time zone cause I got kicked out quickly from top 10 lol

[dreamy lance]

Congrats

[trail temple]

This is probably one of the hardest times to aotn if you aren't tryharding

After this reset until the last reset of the season is easier

[bleak jewel]

Got lucky to aotn, it was not too sweaty

Faced mostly meme defense fleets

I only lost once this season due to lag

[pseudo copper]

Guys, is Ryza meta?

[bleak jewel]

This was my team to hit aotn

Anchorage has manjuu aux and that is it

[royal beacon]

what gun for Musashi and Vanguard?

[winged depot]

needs work but if it works then yolo

[neon bronze]

Overcapped sadge

Congrats JohnNamikaze

[trail temple]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BewmBsf4EWKAf_UwYax05c7ksL51y6sjs96pIwD73Jc/edit#gid=38984775

Click on the Mainfleet equips tab

[royal beacon]

ty ty

[trail temple]

Don't read the description, they haven't been updated

[coral wren]

That better hold on to Top 10 until reset

[trail temple]

If that statement was made in irony

[bleak jewel]

nah that was a one time thing, I can chill now.

[coral wren]

Alright

[neon bronze]

i wanna aotn eos at least once

just... not now i suppose

[trail temple]

I wanna rank 1 eos 8 more times, then I'll retire

[lusty hill]

why 8?

[untold crater]

For 10 wins

[lusty hill]

8 season is like 4 months

[untold crater]

mhm

[frosty goblet]

mhm

[winged depot]

ayo, amogus

[untold crater]

The voices are duplicating

[flat veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-voices-in-my-head-voices-cat-gif-23453583

[thorn obsidian]

Lvl 108 FS3 ancho or lvl 125 Kron for tank?

[untold crater]

Ancho

The only CA that is viable is ancho

[thorn obsidian]

The level difference tho? I’ve been using Kron cause ancho was low lvl

[untold crater]

Imagine 110 ancho fs3 survives better than kron 125

As well as the smokescreen she provides is better than anything kron does

[rustic bridge]

What where good as tank for this

[untold crater]

Saint Louis only

She gives speed so it's decent

[rustic bridge]

on this gears

[untold crater]

Maybe do something about the auxes

[pseudo copper]

No, you see, this is next level plays Yukana

You shouldn't try to understand it

[untold crater]

I'm just saying +7 and +11

[pseudo copper]

You see, it's left at that enhance for a reason

That reason neither me nor you can understand

[dreamy lance]

https://tenor.com/view/awesome-minions-excited-gah-i-cant-even-gif-14537236

[steel coral]

homie playin golf

[frosty goblet]

[untold crater]

[gaunt sparrow]

Who is better in PvP? Agir or Anchorage?

[uncut agate]

Anchorage

[untold crater]

Anchorage is the best CA in pvp as well as the only viable one

[neon bronze]

what makes aegir's kit great in pve is bad in pvp

why slow down the opponent vanguard... when you could either burst torps/shelling/airstrikes on them to atlantis, or survive/outlast the opponent's bursts

Anchorage is basically the best for the latter role

[pseudo copper]

It's not just the kit, it's pvp modifiers too

[neon bronze]

modifiers?

do elaborate

[pseudo copper]

These things

[neon bronze]

[pseudo copper]

One of reasons all CA bad in pvp, it's just that Ancho kit too broken for pvp

Why she's exception

[neon bronze]

she's built different fr

[candid sluice]

also armor type and slow asf

[pseudo copper]

[untold crater]

Slow your VG down

The idea of slowing enemy down in pvp is good but all ship/equip that do that aren't good in pvp

[vestal hearth]

but my swordfish clincher

[tough dirge]

whats the pvp meta nowadays

[floral wave]

musashi, anchorage, shimakaze +3

[merry vale]

Bonus points for NJ and Aquila.

[floral wave]

aquila ew

[gaunt sparrow]

I want to ask just to be safe. I checked a tier list than can be found inside an Excel document that's in the pinned comments. I saw that there are a number of T0 comps including Musashi and Shinano

I don't have the third ship of said backline compositions built (some examples include Hiryuu Kai and New Jersey), but would it still be for the best if I put them on my backline regardless and have the third ship being whatever I can muster besides them?

[merry vale]

Depends on your third how good the fleet will actually be, but Musashi Shinano does work since they are strong ships. Shinano is just a little slow.

[gaunt sparrow]

I guess my third would be Unicorn, Perseus or Chise

Something with preload, at any rate. Probably can't go wrong with that

[merry vale]

Percy works, but she's kind of a cope, chise works but she's also a little bit of a cope, unicorn isn't that great.

[empty mesa]

Just use Hiryuu.

[gaunt sparrow]

I don't have Hiryuu built

I'm working on it, I just wanted to know if the comps using Musashi and Shinano fall apart completely on account of not having her or New Jersey alongside them. And I guess my answer is "depends"

I guess I should hurry up and build Hiryuu, and in the meantime keep using Nakaga

[merry vale]

Musashi carries, shinano hits like a truck if you survive long enough.

With hiryuu the comp is greater than the sum of its parts, even if each part is good on its own.

[gaunt sparrow]

Remembered that I also have Richelieu, in case she's another good contender

[merry vale]

I really like her personally, but she competes for flag spot with Musashi, and she's kinda fragile in comparison, but she puts in work.

No longer a top tier threat, but she's still strong enough to work.

[gaunt sparrow]

You reckon a comp of Musashi, Richelieu and Shinano would outperform Nakaga? With Musashi as the flag

[empty mesa]

Musashi/Shina/anything probably gonna be better.

[merry vale]

^

Richelieu flag with Shinano and Musashi would be decently strong.

[gaunt sparrow]

Does that mean Richelieu deserves the flag position more than Musashi? Just to confirm

[merry vale]

Yes, because the majority of Musashi's barrage damage comes from the auto targeting lightning.

Where Richelieus barrage will miss an entire row of backline if she's not flag.

[gaunt sparrow]

Fair

[merry vale]

If Richelieu is flag she'll burn 6/6 ships.

[gaunt sparrow]

Made some adjustments to my PvP comps. Thank you for the input

[merry vale]

Welcome.

Best of luck.

[rustic bridge]

should i what change

[merry vale]

Your gear.

[rustic bridge]

i have no good gears

My best ap gun is 381mm

next lose by my luck

[clear briar]

Warning for others in the future: please don't help SaltyBelfast.
He's a troll who has been banned from #gameplay-help and trolls #al-general with obviously bogus fleets and weapon compositions.

[vestal hearth]

no he's totally legit, I've seen video evidence

I can tell by the artifacts

[winged depot]

Nomico hi

Who

I blocked the guy already

[rustic bridge]

15 lose on 1 day

[vestal hearth]

part of the reason why Shinano works well with Musashi and Hiryuu is because of the 3 IJN ship requirement for her buff to herself and other IJN carriers, if you're going to leave out Hiryuu at least bring another IJN ship (not necessarily a carrier)

but you'll have to make sure Shinano isn't revealed before she gets her initial airstrike off

[gaunt sparrow]

Yeah, don't know why but I always forget that Shinano has that sortie skill. Hiryuu makes perfect sense

[merry vale]

Musashi and Shima also proc it.

Both are as meta as it gets.

[gaunt sparrow]

But then, if I were to think of another IJN CV to bring in for lack of Hiryuu, maybe Hakuryuu?

Maybe that slashing barrage of hers can go a long way, not sure

[vestal hearth]

not a bad idea

[merry vale]

That would be a pretty slow fleet with a lot less survivability.

[gaunt sparrow]

That is something to keep in mind, true. All the power in the world won't matter if you get one-shotted first

[merry vale]

Which is why WNT flag hiryuu is so good.

She doesn't get 1 hit even if Shima hits all her opening torps. And the enemy flag loses good chunks of damage.

[gaunt sparrow]

Then I think Richelieu is still better for now. At least then my damage is more evenly spread time-wise and not just concentrated on a late moment

[merry vale]

And your flag is the most likely to eat all the preloaded.

[gaunt sparrow]

Might be worth mentioning, I have Shimakaze in my vanguard, too. So I don't need an additional IJN ship to proc Shinano's skill

[merry vale]

^

Yeah so don't do it.

You have shinanos buff proc'd already.

[gaunt sparrow]

To confirm, once I do finish building my Hiryuu, I want her to be the flagship, right?

Since she is resistant to one-shots thanks to her revive

Even if we consider that the bulk of Musashi's damage comes from her lightning strike which automatically strikes at the target's location without any kind of aiming, what about Shinano? Her barrage would require her to be the flagship in order to not miss a row of the backline

Unless her barrage is nothing to write home about and not worth making her flag instead of Hiryuu

[merry vale]

It's not worth making shinano flag.

Keep hiryuu flag imo.

[winged depot]

Nano barrage is just there, its not even good to have the "damage"

[merry vale]

Musashi's barrage 1/6th of the damage is the sword slash.

The rest is targeted.

This is how I personally set it up.

[gaunt sparrow]

Yeah, I think that would be ideal as well, all things considered

[merry vale]

Musashi takes the least damage off positioning.

[gaunt sparrow]

From personal experience, I also think Shinano's barrage is kind of underwhelming, though I always figured I might just be doing something wrong

[clear briar]

It just does low damage overall

[merry vale]

Yep.

It's good for breaking carrier stealth in some instances.

But besides that it's ignorable.

Her carrier drop gives the middle finger to stealth anyways.

[gaunt sparrow]

I'd say this right here is my current PvP team goal that I'm aspiring towards. I just need to build Hiryuu and Juneau. Have them both retrofitted, just need to level them now

What if I were to have New Jersey, though? Would she replace anyone on the backline?

[merry vale]

Yes.

[gaunt sparrow]

I know I've always avoided her like the plague personally

[merry vale]

Shinano nj Musashi would slaughter.

[gaunt sparrow]

But now that survivability is brought into question, well, maybe she couldn't replace Hiryuu, for instance

Oh.

[merry vale]

Yeah.

Nj is for big dick aggression in this instance.

Less stall more aggression.

With NJ you can also switch Juneau for Harbin.

[gaunt sparrow]

I guess I shouldn't be too shocked, but NJ must simply be so powerful that she enables you to forget all about survivability and just kill them

I'm also still keeping Shinano's buff even without Hiryuu, thanks to Musashi and Shimakaze

And am I well enough off, just giving them the same gear setup as I do for PvE stuff such as OpSi?

Or do I need a specialized gear set for PvP

For instance, my Shinano has two XSB3C's and a Ryuusei. When giving her these planes, I paid no mind to PvP and just thought about what, according to my understanding, is best for a boss fleet

Although thinking about it again, maybe I should at least go for a parallel torp bomber like Skypirate or Wyvern if we're talking PvP instead of Ryuusei

[merry vale]

Tldr for shinano.

Parallel torps.

Wyverns work really well.

[deft escarp]

What are the best TBs for Shinana?

Working on another Wyvern currently so I only have one

[winged depot]

I personally use breguet, tenrai and wyvern since double wyvern is slow

[deft escarp]

Oof

[merry vale]

I fully invested into the meme.

[deft escarp]

What about Barracuda?

[winged depot]

but I do double wyvern with suisei

[merry vale]

[deft escarp]

Don't have Breguette unfortunately

[merry vale]

Slow but funny.

[winged depot]

the +13 is on the lowest efficiency

[deft escarp]

I remember my backline losing half its hp from a single airstrike lmao

[merry vale]

[deft escarp]

[merry vale]

I love it.

It's slow.

But when it does go off.

[winged depot]

you could do sea hornet instead of breguet

[merry vale]

All better now.

[winged depot]

[deft escarp]

This is good enough on Hiryuu right?

[winged depot]

yeah looks fine

[deft escarp]

I wanna make my defense fleet annoying for the sake of seeing people coming here and ranting

[merry vale]

Yeah that's good.

That's why I made my defense fleet a meme.

It stalls.

[deft escarp]

Also, how's pearl on Musashi?

[winged depot]

not good imo

[merry vale]

Lots of better defensive items.

[deft escarp]

[winged depot]

she's the last one to die mostly

[merry vale]

Yep. She's beefy as fuck.

[winged depot]

probably put it to your shima

[deft escarp]

So something like rudder or badge instead of pearl?

[winged depot]

badge

yep

[deft escarp]

Wait, this is the pearl I meant

[merry vale]

Thats really weak.

[winged depot]

don't think so

[deft escarp]

I thought the hit stat was important to make her lightning strike as consistent as possible

[merry vale]

There's better items with more hit that'll give her more damage.

[winged depot]

rainbow table and beaver badge is quite enough for me

[deft escarp]

I'm using rainbow table on NJ to make her shelling tighter too

And dcp since she sometimes dies before her first shelling

[merry vale]

Nj doesn't really need it.

She gets a -5 spread already.

To each their own, but NJ isn't the most needy for the gamer table.

Tbh I use mine on UVH and In pvp uvh out damages Musashi frequently.

[winged depot]

unless for some reason she's the only rainbow bb you use

then its ok

[deft escarp]

Yeah I use NJ, Hiryuu, Musashi

[merry vale]

Anchorage Harbin Juneau for maximum stall.

My defense fleet sacrificed Shima just to be a tad more annoying to the meeb setup.

[winged depot]

this is you then

[merry vale]

Yep, 1 print and 1 level off completion.

[deft escarp]

Nah

I don't even have Harbin

[winged depot]

was talking to fluffy XD

[merry vale]

https://i.imgur.com/GMb94Ph.png

[winged depot]

my harbin needs like 29 prints till max, so i'm just coping with ayanami

[deft escarp]

Ah

[merry vale]

https://i.imgur.com/7gVRNQY.png

Not sure i see you though, might be wrong.

[winged depot]

I usually move when its 15 minutes before next reset

or less if I got a +2

[thorn obsidian]

Ok loadout?

[winged depot]

need a good AA

[thorn obsidian]

Sextuple?

[winged depot]

yeppers, that's the ideal

and manjuu instead of toolbox

[merry vale]

https://i.imgur.com/d6kUFkl.png

That's what i'm running.

I really like this combo.

It truly keeps her alive well past all expectations.

[thorn obsidian]

[winged depot]

I need to survive so I use a sextuple

[thorn obsidian]

My fleet

[merry vale]

She holds off the invading hoard.

[winged depot]

looks fine

[merry vale]

That works, it keeps all early nuke damage to percy whose kinda useless after the first dump.