pvp

[untold crater]

But not lazy to reset 20x?

[whole salmon]

we all agreed to run pepega def

[untold crater]

[whole salmon]

So we wouldn’t get walled

Unless idk we met the god MK

[midnight heron]

well u see dont forget that i have no idea what gear to put even if i copy fleets

[whole salmon]

God MK running old comp with +6 gear

Well it is +10 now

[untold crater]

📌

[whole salmon]

But he doesn’t play OS so he doesn’t have gold plates for +13

[dreamy lance]

You can ask in this channel or check the pinned messages

Also, if you were getting walled, why not press the refresh button? Plasma wasn't likely a bonus unless you rolled him on Reset 1

[whole salmon]

@midnight heron he’s taking it off now

[midnight heron]

oh so they updated the docs

it wasnt updated in forever

[whole salmon]

Smh everyone should have meme fleet this season

How are we going to beat Avrora if we all mess up each other

So many baggers died already

[midnight heron]

cuz no more resets after game trolls me by giving me lower rank peeps every refresh

[dreamy lance]

Oh yea I forgot you rush the 12 hour set

[winged depot]

i know that feeling

[dreamy lance]

Always within first few hours

[lunar echo]

Meanwhile Avrora is still sweaty af

[candid sluice]

Oh I forgot to info that the docs updated

But they did

[whole salmon]

The only hope in beating Avrora is Lexington currently

Idk how Amagi is doing tho

Washington seems like they are behind by like 5 points

[untold crater]

87 or so

[whole salmon]

Idk if Sandy even exist

Yeah Amagi has a chance as well

[lunar echo]

What's the forecast for Avrora

[whole salmon]

High

[candid sluice]

Famine

[untold crater]

But 87 isn't competing

In the tournament amagi is 86

[midnight heron]

either way thx for the info and help imma see what i can do

[lunar echo]

I'll just count myself lucky to get to 85 lol

[dreamy lance]

87 player nomico is not on discord

[whole salmon]

Lexington is sitting at high 80s early 90s, Avrora is mid to high 90s

[dreamy lance]

He can only be reached through ingame chat

[untold crater]

Yeah nomicunny

[lunar echo]

Damn, I'm only at 78

[dreamy lance]

You are at 2178 10/10?

[winged depot]

wait its not kirito

[lunar echo]

2198 8/10 to be precise, but yeah

[dreamy lance]

nomico

[untold crater]

Kirito was 2nd last set ye

[winged depot]

did nomico got a +3

[untold crater]

2

[lunar echo]

How the fuck do you get a +3 this late

[dreamy lance]

Nomico was always ahead

[whole salmon]

Also if you plan on keeping Mafia, perhaps switch to blue torp on Ancho as the majority of frontline damage seems to be dealt by Musashi now

[whole salmon]

Possible

[candid sluice]

Aotn rush

[winged depot]

I see, i'm only at 81

[untold crater]

Aotn rushers

[dreamy lance]

Someone got a +4 last set from 4 AoTN baggers

[whole salmon]

This set at least

[untold crater]

[lunar echo]

That's a 105-point differential, right?

[untold crater]

Not like that

[dreamy lance]

No, it's from 4 seperate people

[winged depot]

the god rng

[lunar echo]

Oh

[whole salmon]

If you get high enough

[untold crater]

+3 as in say 3 +11 or 1 +12 and 1 +11

[whole salmon]

And know enough people

[lunar echo]

Okay, I thought you meant like a +13

[whole salmon]

You can essentially collude

[untold crater]

I got +13

But i also overcapped

[whole salmon]

Tho we are only doing it at maximum efficiency this season due to the competition

[dreamy lance]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/985755835022057604/1038292770542063707/IMG_2972.png

[whole salmon]

Normally we don’t really collude

[winged depot]

yukana not overcapping when

[untold crater]

7am must be nice bro

[lunar echo]

I think I got 5 11s between pre-rush and post-rush, but most of it was just lucky rolls

[dreamy lance]

He's in a different timezone, I think

[winged depot]

only got a +1 last time

now its a +2

[lunar echo]

I'm in EST though, so I'm basically screwed every night lol

[dreamy lance]

There are certain strategies to ensure a bonus

[whole salmon]

Like asking people?

Sure fire strategy

[untold crater]

EST... Is bad?

[lunar echo]

I'm sweaty, but not sweaty enough to stay up until 3 AM on a work night

[whole salmon]

Just rush early

[untold crater]

Ah ok

[whole salmon]

[winged depot]

same

[whole salmon]

I rush plenty early this season and the pace is still maintained

Even tho it isn’t Avrora pace

[lunar echo]

I have to rush within 2-3 hours after that reset

[whole salmon]

There is a certain player who shall not be named

[lunar echo]

So I'll only get like 2-4 +1s a day past the first week

[dreamy lance]

Certain players rush 3-4 hours before a reset ends and maintain a high pace, it's really not that difficult if you keep track of names

[whole salmon]

Got top 1 on Lexington with a Weeb fleet

Rushing 3 hours every day before set 2

So I don’t see the issue aside from Thursdays being a pain

[lunar echo]

First day can be a pain

[whole salmon]

Wdym, first day is the easiest day

[lunar echo]

I'm not up for the reset, so I just have to wake up and pray somebody moved while I was asleep

[whole salmon]

Just rush lol

First week doesn’t matter that much fr

Just fish some rushers then rush yourself to 0/10

Then refresh 2 mins into next set to fish rushers

[lunar echo]

Yeah I get like

Maybe 1 rusher the whole first day lol

[whole salmon]

Then repeat that for 3 days

[whole salmon]

You are at 0/10, a few refreshes 2 mins into the set could fish you at least 3 rushers on week 1 unless you have skill issue

[dreamy lance]

Early season doesn't really matter that much. It's best to focus on gaining score in days 2-4

[whole salmon]

As long as you aren’t stuck at the back then you should be good

I mean there are people who believe in sling shot tech

[oblique silo]

Sorry bro

I took it off

[midnight heron]

aite

[dreamy lance]

[lunar echo]

I also lose anywhere from 2-5 on last day because I have to rush and go to bed before most of the other top scorers cash in

[untold crater]

[neon bronze]

can a rusher reach t100, t50?

[lunar echo]

I don't see why not

[whole salmon]

Define on what you consider a rusher and when they rush

If they rush immediately at 5/10 to 0/10 every set and constantly eat +9s and +8s, that’s gonna be pepega pace for second week

[stoic moon]

he joined arataka's guild, ask him for nomico's discord

[lusty hill]

Who should equip pearl, ayanami or Juneau?

What's the aux for Juneau?

[warm crow]

I personally use spd aux. You can go double boiler, or maybe boiler + torp bulge so she wont proc martyr when she tanks some torps. Can also go cosmic kicks and/or beaver if none of your other ships are using them.

[neon bronze]

is telling pvp newbies to go first after resets so more experienced pvpers can climb on them with +11-13s?

[lusty hill]

aotn

[floral wave]

id rather explain properly and hope for a chance that newbie is gonna become a pvp player in future, theres enough people that dont care about eos, no need to exploit newbies

[brave ridge]

Yukana. it is your 2. Account?

[candid sluice]

[lusty hill]

Do people really make new accounts just to dming people

[rare flicker]

[lusty hill]

Also why do all the messages literally have the exact same sentence as all the others lol

[ancient skiff]

When money is involved of course you have to be desperate

[untold crater]

Nope

[brave ridge]

ok thx

[empty mesa]

That's something Yukana PVP would say.

[candid sluice]

lv 1 acc goes hard

[vestal hearth]

how does everyone know I joined AraTaka's guild?

[untold island]

just get a job 😔

[untold crater]

It's lv3 bro

[neon bronze]

Yukana alt?

[candid sluice]

damn guy did one run of 1-2

[untold crater]

Obv not bro my alt would never have that sec

[steel coral]

The perfect alibi

[pseudo copper]

We have ears and eyes

[flat veldt]

Fake nomico account

[rustic bridge]

i hate my gears

[untold crater]

[rare flicker]

I saw a lvl 9 a few hours ago iirc

[stoic moon]

holy crap i am a pvper?

[pseudo copper]

You are Yukana alt #10 so yes

You overcap just as much

more actually

[stoic moon]

more skill = more overcap

[untold crater]

[floral wave]

100% truth

[cinder wolf]

yukana mastered living rent free tech

[untold crater]

[vestal hearth]

who needs collusion?

[trail temple]

For this season, lexington

[lime folio]

Suisei over Tenrai on Shinano?

is it for the speed

[winged depot]

if you run double wyvern

[lime folio]

ye i was rocking this

with medal/feather depending on fights

[rustic bridge]

For pvp ok

[candid sluice]

tech build

[trail temple]

Yeah red means it's situational when you would run Tenrai. If you have double wyvern, which is BiS for that slot then you would be too slow if you used a tenrai

[neon bronze]

having a guild makes it easy to ask to move tbh

just pinged a guildmate

[pseudo copper]

Just join other guild discord and ping there

[neon bronze]

@flat veldt no not u though sadge

[untold crater]

[candid sluice]

Just infiltrate private guild servers and invite them into ping circle

[untold crater]

[neon bronze]

student + pvper makes it hard

can't do shit on 3 am

[untold crater]

[lusty hill]

I'm glad I'm a NEET

[lunar echo]

Just stay up and fuck up your entire Monday

[lusty hill]

Book a plane ticket and switch timezone between reset

[steel coral]

Why spend money on plane tickets when NArdVPN is "free"

[rustic bridge]

Should i make this gun of +3

[lusty hill]

how long is the reload for that gun

[winged depot]

don't need to humor this guy tbh

[rustic bridge]

i can here confetti give have no anouther ijn guns

[rustic bridge]

24.40s

[uncut agate]

Use the stock gun she comes equipped with 🙏

[rustic bridge]

First and Single win on day

[neon bronze]

fuck it ima rush all my attempts today

education restarts tomorrow and i don't have a concrete plan, near-certified overcapping

can't edge out my shit in t100 EoS bcs of afternoon schedule sadge

yep ima just rush on 12 pm tomorrow. gl Amagi

;pace 0 2400

original reason to do pvp was to get these gold bulins

ima rush until december

[winged depot]

based on experience you can reach aotn by just rushing and not losing/overcapping

[neon bronze]

anecdotal evidence

gotta prove that

loses once

[winged depot]

its not that hard, hiryuu gives you this massive time to retreat and reset

[neon bronze]

lag https://tenor.com/bzsbK.gif

yeah there are other factors

[untold crater]

Nah skill issue

Any rusher can hit aotn

[deft escarp]

Yeah lol

I hit AoTN last season with 5 losses

[untold crater]

[rustic bridge]

[untold crater]

[sour oasis]

Worst case scenario, I achieved AotN with eleven losses an early season. I am positive that was surpassed (I think by vice) with fourteen losses.
However I did lose a lot of sleep. ||I had to not only win every match, but I had to stalk players who moved at certain hours so I could collect enough bonuses to be within spitting distance while rushing ... so a lot of luck too.|| But five losses and some minor bonus accumulation -- just avoid sleeping on one day over the weekend and immediately rush (fighting only teams that you can murder in under 20s; some will probably give you bonus penalties, but that's what the early bonuses were for).

[winged depot]

good job

[untold crater]

JorgeR himself

[lime folio]

I should be first

whats everyones score

[untold crater]

Low

[winged depot]

So early

[candid sluice]

check back in 4hrs

[trail temple]

2565 already been topped

[lunar echo]

Maybe I don't have to wreck my sleep schedule after all lol

[river marsh]

2573 final score for me

overcapped twice and lost 1 battle

[silver swift]

just curious? Does overcap mean lost attempts?

[river marsh]

nah

unused attempts

[silver swift]

ahhh gotcha... ya bane of of PvP existence too... 10/10... clock ticks over... ooops

[river marsh]

like when you have 6/10 attacks then it refreshes to 10/10

you lost an attack

[lime folio]

It's bed time for most people

Not gonna wait till 2 am gn

[winged depot]

I see, good night friend

[lunar echo]

I have beaten Donald Trump by 1 point

[untold crater]

He needs to build a higher wall next time

[lunar echo]

I suspect he'll call fraud in the morning

[untold crater]

It's not like he's finishing 2nd in this race

[lunar echo]

Not gonna get top 10 with this, but I'm happy with 85

Think it's the highest score I've gotten

[untold crater]

What's your server?

[lunar echo]

Avrora

[untold crater]

Ah yeah probably not

[untold crater]

You could easily add a few more just by finishing an hour from now, but imagine you're busy outside of AL?

[lunar echo]

Yeah, I have work in the morning

Not staying up another hour for this, I'm headin' to bed

[untold crater]

[lunar echo]

[winged depot]

what time you moving

[untold crater]

At 10 mins

[winged depot]

really?

[untold crater]

Usually yeah

[quartz laurel]

bruh 10 pts cause my shit finshed right at reset

i forgot to do it earlier

[neon bronze]

@untold crater who's on the EoS AotN in Amagi?

am at school rn

2503... good run for myself

[untold crater]

That dude in first is a Noob

[neon bronze]

how to be a noob!!!

[uncut agate]

buy NArd VPN

[neon bronze]

im broke

[river marsh]

im just gonna rush

im busy with stuff

no time to bag

[winged depot]

[river marsh]

i'll attack at 30 mins-1hr before reset

[frigid hamlet]

[maiden anchor]

Do I do 10 attempts before reset or only 5?

[untold crater]

Can do pretty much whatever first day

But generally you go from 10/10 to 5/10 day 2 and onwards

[snow crane]

Ended at 2582 and missed out on AotN

[maiden anchor]

Always use 5 attempts every reset? or 10 on daily resets?

[untold crater]

There are 15 exer a day, 5 per reset, but you go from 10/10 to 5/10.

[vestal hearth]

it won't matter that much, but with going 0/10 on the very first set you get a good chance of getting people who will have moved during the third set

[untold crater]

[whole salmon]

Avrora is still top

Lexington second

Amagi third

Washington is a bit behind

Sandy didn’t care

[untold crater]

Man

Latias could have been 50 bucks richer

[leaden sky]

Grats to the winners

[vestal hearth]

yeah, good hustle

[leaden sky]

Tho ngl never seen that 1st avrora guy

[whole salmon]

He’s the host of the competition

He won his own competition

[winged depot]

noobasian

or andy

[whole salmon]

[untold crater]

[vestal hearth]

host competition for max collusion

[leaden sky]

Oh no wonder he changed his name

[untold crater]

wat

Reiver is not a new name?

[whole salmon]

Not new name

[winged depot]

he said he has the name for a long time now

[whole salmon]

He changed it a while back already

[untold crater]

Yeah

[candid sluice]

Buying a playstore gift card for himself

[maiden anchor]

So the only time you go 0/10 is before the end of season?

[untold crater]

Pretty much

Unless your sleep schedule doesn't allow it

[uncut agate]

sleep > pvp

[stable dawn]

[candid sluice]

why not both

[trail temple]

I had my name since Sept/Oct 2021

Only Washy uses my original name

[stable dawn]

wasn't it because someone else stole your OG name on Avrora?

[crimson bear]

Only server that matters anyway...

[trail temple]

[crimson bear]

Best defense fleets 😉

Minimal collusion

[stable dawn]

most toxic players

[trail temple]

We were running toxic defences for most of the season

[candid sluice]

defense fleets on washington?

[light crystal]

[lime rivet]

I. LITERALLY. FORGOT TO DO MY LAST 10 EXERCISES

actually i was stuck inna meeting all day so couldn't even open AL

[dreamy lance]

https://twitter.com/AzurLaneMeta/status/1589522707716067328 Congrats to the winners, banneduser finishing #11 EN

Azur Lane Meta (@AzurLaneMeta)

Congratulations to the Top 10 cross server placed people. As well the Top 10 in each server.

#AzurLane #pvp #rankings

Twitter · Nov 7, 2022, 7:38 AM

[neon bronze]

i will not lose a single match today

prayge

[empty mesa]

Okay, Saltybelfast.

[neon bronze]

what

i'm not that guy

[empty mesa]

[trail temple]

I was sure you had some left, but thought you were also dead

[neon bronze]

[rustic bridge]

On what should i chikuma remove

Or should i she of lv125 make

[trail temple]

Remove Chikuma entirely

[rustic bridge]

[candid sluice]

dont use ca

[rustic bridge]

Ca are good Tanks

[candid sluice]

not in pvp

unless anchorag

[rustic bridge]

CL

Or DD

[trail temple]

Only ykkz is really a good DD tank

CLs generally better

Better HP, better AA

[rustic bridge]

Nürnberg use as tank

Or i use she

[lusty hill]

do you have anchorage?

[rustic bridge]

dev 1

Lv 145

[whole salmon]

Full competition result compiled

[dreamy lance]

Bannedaccount rank 8

[whole salmon]

Among participants at least

[lime rivet]

Would have gotten 2583 if I could do my attacks

[uncut agate]

[neon bronze]

Bullshit.

[candid sluice]

cant have shit in philipines

[lunar echo]

So you just take what rushers you get and then rush to 0/10 in a few hours, right?

Then refresh 2 minutes into the next batch

That's what I heard, at least

[trail temple]

You could have gotten me a 2601

[rustic bridge]

i wish me 2 wins on pvp

Make only 1 /10 a win

By good days

[leaden sky]

damn, 7 out of 10 were from avrora

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460645783021289472/1014785026744918046/hackermans.gif

[rustic bridge]

make i this gun of here

[uncut agate]

https://tenor.com/view/matsuoka-shuzo-never-give-up-motivation-japan-asiatic-clams-gif-16195359

[dreamy lance]

https://tenor.com/view/coach-coaching-coach-carter-ken-carter-basket-gif-13606181

[stable dawn]

so is it confirmed? PvP is over?

[leaden sky]

wym pvp just started

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/514333481061449729/963422983202934874/catjam.gif

[autumn mural]

If you only have 2 wyverns how would uou gear then on shinano - hiryuu?

2 shinano or 1 each?

[warm crow]

personally, i'd give one on hiryuu since her tb slot efficiency and plane count is higher than shinano's first slot and she launches at least two airstrikes per battle even if there is high backline pressure from the opponent comp

[uncut agate]

1 each

[fallow granite]

any new meta fleet yet?

[untold crater]

Depends what you use

[fallow granite]

well I'm trying to look for new meta things to use

mafia fleet stops working when there's musashi in the enemy fleet

[winged depot]

its on the pins on salty's docs is where the new metas at

[oblique cobalt]

[neon bronze]

holy fucking shit, who knew swapping VV out jn a mafia fleet to musashi be so fuck8ng strong

[floral wave]

anyone that used musashi at least once anywhere

[merry vale]

Yep.

[neon bronze]

didn't even notice my hiryuu already proc'd final counter by the time NJ proc'd her 15 sec barrage

[merry vale]

Her barrage makes NJ's look kinda balanced.

[neon bronze]

🖕 AhnYujin

Fair enough. Don't havr NJ and Aquila.

[floral wave]

i dont have them either

and have no issues with def fleets

[merry vale]

I had to replace some of my team thanks to her, but i'm not running into issues anymore.

[neon bronze]

i just swap vanguard and shinano depending on their defense fleet

[merry vale]

Just gotta switch two guns in and out for speed and my team is back to running over everything.

[untold crater]

You can tell by her color

Red glow = FC not active,
Blue Glow = FC active,
unless you have a ship that has a blue skill that also applies to hiryuu

[neon bronze]

There's a glow?

[winged depot]

you can also see a random airstrike and then the airstrike bar is not completed

that's the hiryuu invincibility

[untold crater]

Maybe the barrage of planes is a better indicator

[untold crater]

All ships glow when there's an active skill

Maybe someone can correct me here but as for Yellow skills i don't remember if ships glow or the glow is just red

[coral wren]

Cruise missions wants me to do PvP
Here we go again

[torpid shuttle]

i got daylights saving timed

i overcapped

sob

plus side is 1 AM instead of 2 am morning resets

[stoic moon]

oh same

[untold crater]

Minus side is 7am instead of 8am

[trail temple]

DST the silent pvp killer

[zinc phoenix]

I’ll try climbing for aotn. I can do meeb with ayanami. Should I put a poor defense fleet or something good?

Also, can someone give me tips for when to attack? I’m not willing to hamper my sleep, but I can check regularly during the day

[untold crater]

Defense fleet doesn't really matter at all

[untold crater]

As for when to attack, what's your timezone?

[zinc phoenix]

Uh UTC-7?

I think

Or it’s 10:30 pm here

[untold crater]

Ah, 2h before reset

[zinc phoenix]

Reset would be at 2AM for me currently

[untold crater]

Yeah

[zinc phoenix]

Wrong ping sry. But I’ll put up terrible 120 ships then

[untold crater]

Well since long set is 2am - 2pm for you, you should be fine for your sleep

If you need to sleep earlier than 2am, then you should be fine rushing a few hours earlier

[zinc phoenix]

So should I attack with all my chances in one go? Split it up? Not sure how this works

[untold crater]

Go to 5/10, if you wake up before 2pm then you'll be fine for pvps

The sets for you are 2am/2pm/8pm

[zinc phoenix]

Ah so stay at 5/10 attempts, and spend whenever close to reset?

[untold crater]

As long as you go to 5/10 a few minutes before the next set you'll be good for aotn

You should only go to 9/10 if you get a mover

[zinc phoenix]

I see. So rush close to reset, but if I see someone who’s likely to attack before I should stay to get a bonus

Is the gist?

[untold crater]

nono

Let's say it's 4pm, 4h until next reset, but someone on your list does a lot for exercises, it's good to beat them and get bonus points from them

Then at 9/10 you repeat the process

Then let's say by 7:50pm you got 2 people that moved, you'd be 8/10, you then just go to 5/10

[zinc phoenix]

Ok thanks

[untold crater]

Then whenever AoTN is attainable you can 0/10 to get it

[autumn mural]

Is hornet or tigercat better for pvp?

[floral wave]

hornet

[autumn mural]

Whats the reason behind that?

Faster crash?

[floral wave]

bit faster than the tiger

as in launch time

[autumn mural]

I see

[trail temple]

It's faster in both ways, flight speed and launch time

Both of which are good

[uncut parcel]

can juneau be subbed for duca?

[floral wave]

theyre kinda different purpose

but should work

juneau works everywhere tbh

[uncut parcel]

i was thinking about doing
shinano / musashi / nj
anchorage / shima (w/ tears) / juneau

[floral wave]

yeah, that works

[uncut parcel]

im placing shima on tears to get more short burst healing compared to being a full heal and the possibility of juneau not dying as intended

[floral wave]

thats the correct way yeah

[uncut parcel]

👍

[zenith lantern]

Juneau would be better in that fleet than Duca anyway

[neon bronze]

does duca and noshiro have the same kit, or something different aside from faction?

[uncut agate]

Duca is tankier and her personal torpedoes are much better than Noshiro.
Noshiro can buff Shimakaze and give your vanguard a free torpedo bulge.

[rustic bridge]

what a Main gunwhere good of here

[craggy cliff]

[rustic bridge]

She is to strong

[lusty hill]

Champpy probably

[zinc phoenix]

Should musashi take flag in meeb fleet?

[untold crater]

Hiryuu, with WNT

[deft escarp]

Who should I run in a Musashi/NJ backline?

With an Anchorage, Juneau, Shima vanguard

[uncut agate]

Shinano~Hiryuu>Aquila imo

[deft escarp]

[deft escarp]

Double Wyvern right?

Would Barracuda+Wyvern suffice until the next Wyvern?

[uncut agate]

sure

Breguet works better if you have it

[deft escarp]

Breguet?

[uncut agate]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Bréguet_Br.810

[zenith lantern]

I'd say try Hiryuu and Shinano and see which you prefer

[uncut agate]

event limited

[deft escarp]

Ah

[zenith lantern]

If you only have 1 Wyvern definitely go Hiryuu though much easier to equip

[deft escarp]

What aux for Hiryuu?

Currently thinking of like Beacon

[zenith lantern]

Fuel and WNT if she's flag

Fuel and Beaver badge if Musashi is Flag

[deft escarp]

And Anchorage uses Heel+washing machine?

Badge is currently on Anchorage

[floral wave]

manjuu + kicks/washing machine

[lunar echo]

[untold crater]

[coral wren]

Dayum that's cursed

[rustic bridge]

all stronger as me

[empty mesa]

Not bad pace.

[rustic bridge]

Pace what is this

[floral wave]

face, he meant leftmost players profile face

surely

[untold crater]

[rustic bridge]

3 wins only this season

[rustic bridge]

Have i not

[trail temple]

That's not 3 wins... so far this season

[frigid hamlet]

You're telling me you don't get 200 points per win? Sounds like a skill issue on your end

[untold crater]

Looks like you guys don't know the extra points for beating Enty

[trail temple]

That explains why I don't get enough points, the top players don't put Enty in their def fleets

[lunar echo]

I await the day when we get the mythical 16s Enty airstrikes

[stable dawn]

preload enty when

[neon bronze]

There will be gear in the future that gives you Enty's skills on another ship!!

Source: it was revealed to me in a dream

[winged depot]

i'd like the air you are having

[lusty hill]

enty retrofit when

[trail temple]

Late but, pvp results from last season's competition. Latter is only for participants

[candid sluice]

0 washi 0 sandy 5 avrora

[leaden sky]

ggwp

[lusty hill]

is 2600 the max score possible or can it be more?

[untold crater]

More

Highest ever achieved iirc was 2621 on KR servers

[trail temple]

Famine was looking at 2601 but took 2 minuses so ended at 2599

The limit is the player base really

If you're too high relative to everyone else you don't get bonuses and you may even take less than base points

[river marsh]

we can bag more easily if EN don't put strongass defense fleets the entire season

[candid sluice]

consider being better

[pseudo copper]

You are Amagi, there aren't defence fleets

[winged depot]

yeah amagi has non defense fleets

[trail temple]

If my lv80 can defeat the majority of Amagi fleets, you can too

[winged depot]

yeah lol, FT is 72 iirc?

[trail temple]

Something like that

I think my gear is jank compared to him

[whole salmon]

It’s not about the defenses

It is the utter lack of care this community has for this gamemode

Which is understandable

[floral wave]

pvp rework when

[whole salmon]

Top defenses can only stall a top player for at most 40 seconds to 1 minute

The problem isn’t that the def fleets are strong, it is that people just aren’t playing the game

[mellow charm]

https://tenor.com/view/witcher-iorveth-iorweth-admit-thought-gif-5665271

[whole salmon]

Tho idk wut Sandy’s deal is

Supposedly it has a bigger population than both Lexington and Washington but its performance hasn’t been the greatest

[floral wave]

they just dont care more than others

[candid sluice]

sandy is a pve server

[trail temple]

Meanwhile CN scores are in the 2560s

[stable dawn]

[cloud hinge]

uggg

uggg

Detroit is an anarchy server

[candid sluice]

ohio server

[lusty hill]

what

[neon bronze]

are these from sandbagging?

[deft escarp]

Lol

[neon bronze]

wait no that would be true if KR

maybe CN are full of rushers in pvp?

[floral wave]

then there would be people with higher scores that would bag off rushers

[whole salmon]

It doesn’t matter whether a server has a bunch of baggers or a bunch of rushers

The only thing that matters is that the server has players that actually play pvp

Having 2490 on Avrora would be like top 150 while 2490 on Lexington is already well into top 70

There just aren’t enough people who play pvp on some servers

[whole salmon]

Compiled by Envy

[lusty hill]

where's the numbers from

[deft escarp]

[whole salmon]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSsts5Xf2uuvk7ERWgaN9oobeOBp7O4WEcxXmJGhh40gx_rGxLZ04Cd5JBJtJZECFccguPoS1lEKXN6/pubhtml?gid=1280160315&single=true

This is the statistics for each server last season

For top 100

[neon bronze]

amagi, the youngest server

so competitive

how

ok just read it's like 3rd out of 5

[candid sluice]

fresher playerbase

[neon bronze]

and thus more ambitious players?

[candid sluice]

in a way yea

[rustic bridge]

Magdeburg remove for Emden

[deft escarp]

[steel coral]

Emden

[trail temple]

I think a solo Enty backline is more likely to win than a full Ironblood fleet

[lusty hill]

Enty is broken if accelerated is on

[trail temple]

Gotta time it so you're firing outside those times

[trail temple]

Be careful of this cheater in Washington, sussy character /s

[untold crater]

[trail temple]

Imagine having a lv125 pvp fleet at lv101 commander level, definitely a hack right?

[stable dawn]

[coral wren]

Blacklist that user and just keep doing your exercises, as simple as that

[untold crater]

More like add him and say you won't stop

[lusty hill]

tell him to get good

[winged depot]

He would call this one a cheater too

[coral wren]

Can't recognize since it's censored

[winged depot]

Yeah, the name is... Kinda interesting so I censored it

[untold crater]

[trail temple]

Better to deny and then send a request back

Saying I can't stop, won't stop

[untold crater]

[steel coral]

this is a very serious problem that has made it's way to tw as well

[untold crater]

Cheater epidemics

[flat veldt]

NoobAsian skilled player but that is not normally, this very very insane... they need to check him pc and game... maybe he not cheating but maybe he using the game deficit... and this cant seem on game screen... he needs to check-up

[coral wren]

Which somehow we don't know if he has a dark secret, like most players do assuming they play a lot and have so many records without noticing that they're cheating or not

[flat veldt]

Only Famine knows about NoobAsian's dark secret

[deft escarp]

With Sandy being memed so much, I think that guy is a Sandy player that's secretly on Washington

[pseudo copper]

Sandy is a server?

[trail temple]

The dude has a point, this is the guy that recently won the PvP tournament

Similarly levelled def fleet but is lv 130s with 100k+ attacks

[untold crater]

[pseudo copper]

The winner must've cheated, impossible to win the tourney with the defence fleet of a level 100

Smh

[lusty hill]

How do you even cheat in this game? Not that I would do it or anything I'm just curious 👀

[whole salmon]

There was a guy named StagPrince using a 72k HP Enterprise and he got banned I think

It was a while ago

[candid sluice]

no he just got a warn lol

[azure swan]

why is it so weird for someone to be lvl100 and have a good pvp fleet

its not that hard to lvl125 ships at that stage, and maybe hes just been grinding pvp for a long time and thats all hes done

[untold crater]

Yeah if only we had his perspective

[whole salmon]

There’s also the chance that even veterans don’t know how pvp work

[candid sluice]

no chance if its true

[trail temple]

The guy complaining is lv137, would say he has enough experience to know, but clearly doesn't

[whole salmon]

Yeah a good pvp fleet isn’t hard to make if you just hard focus particular ships and gears

[pseudo copper]

No such thing as veteran in AL

All just plebs

Or fossils

[trail temple]

Basically yeah, I have a lv50 with the right ships, just gotta level them up when I feel like it

My level 80 has just gear to obtain

[stoic moon]

washi 137

[untold crater]

Why you talking bro you're not even 130

nubhead

[stoic moon]

im an amagi player i get a noob pass

[untold crater]

?

It's been over 29 months bro there is no pass

You get a noob pass because you're nubhead

[stoic moon]

guy should just change his name to nubmancer then all is forgiven

[untold crater]

Lolimancer

[stoic moon]

[coral wren]

Lol

I mean, and I could be wrong, as long as you have a Musashi in your fleet, you're top 1000 lol

[uncut agate]

Musashi won't do your PvP, gotta do it yourself 😔

[untold crater]

Debatable

[steel coral]

if you oath her and rename her to brah she will

[untold crater]

[floral wave]

deal

[dreamy lance]

Why you guys naming ships after banneduser?

[floral wave]

no sacrifice too big to avoid overcapping

[trail temple]

Idk dude, she's kinda be doing pvp for me

[uncut agate]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-and-gif-20790957

[neon bronze]

Thought you cited Tigran L. Petrosian, but a gaming group's Twitter handle.

Had a good laugh.

[winged depot]

Its a common copy pasta sentence from twitch

[neon bronze]

Ah. Not that familiar with Twitch

[neon bronze]

Farthest I've ever gone, ever. In terms of ranking compared to t100

hopefully this season will net me more points than 2503 last season.

[empty mesa]

[uncut parcel]

i should try getting back to pvp

[uncut parcel]

no way i found myself in the list

pretty old tho, like 2020

[untold crater]

Time to make an appearance on the next season?

[stable dawn]

pvp revival?

[pale niche]

what is crash damage and why is it relevent in pvp

[candid sluice]

plane reaching the end of screen and damaging backline

[neon bronze]

so the opponent backline's ships all at 33% health, for instance.

The best BBs can snipe one of these backlines for 1-2 salvos. Not bad. However, it's only guaranteed for one-two ships if you have one BB in your attacking fleet.

Two CVs, preferably Hiryuu and Shinano, both with gold Barracudas at least can decimate those 3 backline ships. Usually it's by torpedos, but as you know converging parallel torps ain't guaranteed to hit one of them.

So here's where crash damage brings you, this mechanic is 75% the cause kf opponent backline sinking.

Case in point, a single Hiryuu w/ either Breguet or Wyvern's damage against a 3 BB backline.

[pale niche]

I see...

so are barracudas the bis plane for pvp?

[candid sluice]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/870419801795874816/1004194468263641179/weeb_issue_-_Made_with_Clipchamp.gif

[neon bronze]

No, as a rule of thumb for CV PvP loadouts:

Wyvern > Breguet > Barracuda > probably any other parallel TB for TBs

Sea Hornet > Tigercat > Anything else that's gold for Fighters

Tenrai > Helldivers > Anything else; Special case for Suisei and Suisei 12a for timing purposes

[untold crater]

[candid sluice]

[merry vale]

[lusty hill]

Wait I thought tenrai bad for pvp

[winged depot]

whut

double wyvern + tenrai on shinano is probably what you thought and yeah it is since the launch time for it is very slow.

you can change that with a breguet, tenrai and wyvern

[lusty hill]

[neon bronze]

CV PvP auxilliaries are more complicated lol, I'll let someone do that. :/

[trail temple]

Check the pins for cv loadout

All I need to say

[neon bronze]

Because some CVs prefer X and Y aux, while another CV prefers W and Y aux. Yet another CV likes Y and Z aux

[steel coral]

all of them prefer Y
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/100/150_Aviation_Gasoline

because whY wouldn't you use it

[winged depot]

I only know of aviation tanks and wnt with feather

[keen obsidian]

Did I miss fights? Currently with 5 battles to go but 130pts behind leader

[trail temple]

Yeah, avgas + either feather, wnt, some acc boosting item or cata (for copium)

[winged depot]

rank 1?

[trail temple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745143627608752179/854427561744531493/Duality.png

[winged depot]

you probably did @keen obsidian

[warm crow]

what's the score diff for bonuses per rank?

[winged depot]

its on pins

[warm crow]

oh right, thanks

[leaden sky]

Been a while since last time i saw blue rendar

[coral wren]

Hm?

[trail temple]

Pretty sure he quit the game

[warm crow]

so I'm at 1037 and I got a +13 on my list -- seems it's better to go for a +12 so I can be at 1049 and another win will be at least another +12 right?
1037 (+12) = 1049 (+12) = 1061
1037 (+13) = 1050 (+10) = 1060

So in this case it's better to not go for the bonus right? If I'm understanding the point system correctly

[lunar echo]

Correct

[candid sluice]

the 1049 strat

[neon bronze]

don't know how these numbers work so i just rush and pray

pray not to lose

[coral wren]

I might get AoTN this season

Currently sitting at ~430 with almost 1100 points

[untold crater]

That's good enough for aotn just don't overcap

[neon bronze]

had a +12 or +13 but i couldn't beat the fleet

t32, 1169 pts. Nice.

if i get the near-guaranteed +11-13 pts and not losing on the way, ez t100 EoS

[merry vale]

Could you imagine the removal of her or Anchorage?

Shima would dominate even harder than ever thought possible, and that's saying a lot.

[winged depot]

Our lord and saviour juneau christ

[merry vale]

Actually. We don't have to imagine much, teams without either lose the match off Shima preload melting their Frontline.

A return to preload supremacy?

[dull hollow]

Birmhihgam

or w.e

would rise up to take the spot

[uncut agate]

Juneau isn't that necessary, I haven't used her in over an year.
Anchorage on the other hand

[neon bronze]

how do ppl deal with all Eagle ship defense fleet (NJ, Enty, Indep, Ancho, Juneau; forgot the 6th ship)

the first and only time i fought against such a fleet, my fleet evaporated

[warm crow]

I fought a similar defense a few days ago but with essex instead of indep. My shinano and hiryuu planes deal no damage lmao. I just used a triple BB with sushi/vanny/warkai and sniped the NJ then won the vanguard battle then its easy win by then

[merry vale]

Warspite sniping is always fun. Making the backline a 2v3 wins lots of matches.

If not, just kinda have the better team with better gear, hard to give advice without knowing your team specifically.

The bootleg sniper fleets in the pins work wonders.

If you have Musashi use her. If you don't have anyone better than warspite, use her.

[trail temple]

It's not really a meta fleet by any margin these days so it's not like we've needed to develop counters specifically for it

[merry vale]

[neon bronze]

is crafting the twin barreled Eagle BB gun in Gear Lab aight for either Warkai or Vanguard? Only have 1 457

[warm crow]

pretty expensive but its worth if you use vanny/warkai as a pocket pick vs some defenses

[merry vale]

I used it on warspite.

It's pretty good in pvp

It was a switch for my Vanguard too when I was running triple BB.

Its fast, hits hard, usually won't run into the penalty it comes with and it's something you can just leave on warspite and forget about it.

[lusty hill]

Almost overcapped but managed to run it last minutes, it might have bugged the commission reset

[untold crater]

[lusty hill]

nvm commision fine

[warm crow]

mine did. 8hr coin commission

[coral wren]

owo

[neon bronze]

hello there. do you have any questions with azur lane PvP?

[untold crater]

[coral wren]

owo

[neon bronze]

am at 1199, 2 attempts left, ima wait until tomorrow, before 9 AM.

can't get atleast an +11 if I rush right now, all +10s.

[trail temple]

Sounds like we have a spammer

(Not you Beth)

[whole salmon]

Send the gear on Shinano and Hiryuu?

[warm crow]

shinano: wyvern/suisei/wyvern/feather/avigas
hiryuu: hornet/tenrai/wyvern/wnt/avigas

the essex passive probably procced and the surface damage got cancelled idk

[whole salmon]

If we go by importance across meta fleets:

• Pretty much used in every comp: Ancho
• Used in most comps: NJ, Musashi, Shima
• Used very very often: Juneau, Harbin, Shinano, Aquila
• Good tier: Hiryuu, etc

So no, Juneau is not core by any means

[whole salmon]

Enhancements on these?

[warm crow]

just +10 each

[whole salmon]

That’s the issue

[neon bronze]

why do some ppl use rocket plane on aquila specifically?

[whole salmon]

Shinano Hiryuu desperately need +13 more so than other comps

[neon bronze]

+13 gears?

[whole salmon]

And yeah 4 rainbow planes at +13 is yikes investment

Unless you have been playing for a while, having a good Shinano Hiryuu comp is like a dream for you

[warm crow]

which planes take priority? tenrai > wyvern > hornet? I've got a limited amount of upgrade materials

[whole salmon]

Leave the Gold for last as they tend to be powercrept

• Wyvern for Shinano 3rd slot
• Wyvern for Hiryuu, Tenrai for Hiryuu
• Wyvern for Shinano 1st slot
• Gold planes

Shinano 3rd slot takes priority as it has 4 planes

Hiryuu TB slot has 3 planes

Shinano 1st slot only has 2 planes so leave that for last

[warm crow]

what about musashi, do i still use the blue gun or just twin 410kai?

[whole salmon]

If it is with Shinano and Hiryuu then use Twin 410 kai

With Table and Beaver

And Harbin gun aux

Staag AA as per usual

[lusty hill]

why tenrai on hiryu instead of shinano?

[whole salmon]

Timings

3 rainbow plane Shinano is too slow for it to be of any value

[lusty hill]

what if I only have one wyvern for shinano? should hiryuu still get tenrai or shinano?

[whole salmon]

Then let Shinano have it

[lusty hill]

so tenrai on hiryuu if shinano equip two wyvern right?

[whole salmon]

That is correct

Tho if you don’t have enough Wyverns then you might as well not use Shinano Hiryuu together

It requires a lot of investment to actually contend with other top fleets

[deft escarp]

Man

[whole salmon]

Just use 1 of them

[deft escarp]

Probably gonna be 4 more months before I can +13 2 or 3 Wyverns

[whole salmon]

Then run that 1 CV with 2 BBs

And focus the gear on that 1 CV

That would be more useful than running 2 CVs with scuffed gear

[lusty hill]

what you mean I can still get aotn these past 2 season

[whole salmon]

NJ Musashi Shinano and NJ Musashi Hiryuu have both been used and requires a lot less investment

[lusty hill]

resetting is my meta

[whole salmon]

LMAOOOO

If you can’t beat them then join them huh

[untold crater]

Pretty much

He was comp gapped

Trying to beat that with mafia is probably annoying

[warm crow]

harbin gun not a CL gun? or ply gun?

[whole salmon]

Ply gun is better but I’m still hesitant on recommending that for pvp as people would prefer to use it elsewhere

But Harbin gun is better than other gold CL gun in pvp due to range

[deft escarp]

@whole salmon Btw, what aux does Shinana use here?

[whole salmon]

And Harbin gun gives better stats than a lot of the CL guns

[deft escarp]

I have avi-gas and badge on her rn

[whole salmon]

It has both FP and AA

[whole salmon]

WNT Avi gas

[neon bronze]

what do WNT do i forgot

[deft escarp]

WNT+Avi gas flagship?

I have WNT on Musashi currently

[warm crow]

evasion + hit

[neon bronze]

ah i currently have feather on my Shinano. would WNT be better for survivability?

[floral wave]

depends if you want wnt flagship effect

if you do, using shinano wnt flagship will most probably lower her survivability

[neon bronze]

hiryuu WNT viable? or no?

[floral wave]

thats a default wnt user in hiryuu/shinano team

[deft escarp]

If WNT Shinano off-flag then I use white shell on Musashi?

[floral wave]

beaver

[warm crow]

I only managed to +13 two wyverns and the tenrai. I should've kept buying plane gold plates in the guild shop instead of main gun

[dreamy lance]

More than enough, people have gotten rank 1 at the end of the season with less +13s on the planes than that

[gusty spire]

I have two wyverns and should I use both of them on Shinano

wait wrong channel

I'm not doing pvp anymore

[untold crater]

[candid sluice]

💀

[still minnow]

is there any reason to use torps other than rainbow mags?

do other torps do anything interesting or useful?

for example is there a torp that's better at bypassing the enemy vanguard and hitting the main fleet?

[untold crater]

There is

[still minnow]

which one is that?

[glacial lintel]

these together

[still minnow]

ok am I out of luck if I don't have the black dildos, or if my VG doesn't have slots for them?

[untold crater]

Yeah HMS quint from gear lab

[untold crater]

It's a lot more rng if u don't have black torp

[still minnow]

so for a VG with no offensive aux slots available, then there's no reason to use anything other than rainbow mags?

usually I would test this myself but I can't get 3 of those torps to +13 just to have a decent comparison to my +13 rainbow mags

lmao

[untold crater]

Why would you not have aux slots? Show VG

[still minnow]

I'm using CVs and I'm shooting down all the enemy planes to keep them hidden

so I need all my slots for AA radars and boilers

[azure swan]

black dildos i-

[untold crater]

This is for PvP right?

[still minnow]

yes lol

[untold crater]

Show fleet

[deft escarp]

I wonder if I should start an Avrora account just for this

[azure swan]

not worth tbh

avrora has so many pvp sweats

[deft escarp]

Might not have time if LW gets its act together and finally makes a decent cq stage though

[still minnow]

what's LW

[deft escarp]

Touhou LostWord

Mfs finally made Epics sparkable

[still minnow]

I tried a similar fleet with impero a while ago abut it wasn't good enough

[untold crater]

HMS only fleet or? You plan on using serious fleet in pvp

[still minnow]

I'm trying again now with albion because she is basically designed specifically for it

no I'm doing a waifu fleet

[untold crater]

[still minnow]

I want to see if it's possible to get AOTN with waifus only

[untold crater]

Regardless don't bother with AA radar in pvp, better off using rudder

[still minnow]

winning isn't possible if the CVs lose stealth

[untold crater]

Then besides rudder one with beaver, another with rudder pearl tears

[still minnow]

AA radar is literally the wincon

[glacial lintel]

your vanguard will just evaporate tbh

[deft escarp]

Wouldn't your vanguard just get destroyed by Musashi

[untold crater]

You VG will die too soon and get revealed by enemy VG

[still minnow]

yes I was using jervis before plymouth because jervis lives forever, I just got plymouth to dev 30 so I'm trying her for a bit

[still minnow]

I have too many boilers

[untold crater]

Yeah depends on your waifus

[lunar echo]

Of course it's possible to AotN with waifus, just have all your waifus conveniently be meta ships

[deft escarp]

Her lightning strikes don't really care about vg speed

[still minnow]

idk never had problems with musashi yet

[lunar echo]

I kinda want to test it out myself, but one of my waifus is NJ

So not much different lol

[untold crater]

What's your score/attempts?

[frigid hamlet]

the chapter 9 spinny boss dodges musashi lightning quite consistently

[untold crater]

Might just be since you're too low for real fleets idk

[still minnow]

doesn't matter cuz I'm still experimenting to figure out a good fleet

[deft escarp]

Any serious defense fleet would just crush that

[still minnow]

usually end up around rank 100

[deft escarp]

Zamn

[still minnow]

but I just swapped a bunch of ships out so it's probably different

[deft escarp]

[untold crater]

Show a list of your waifus

Can make a fleet out of them

[stoic moon]

[untold crater]

nub head

[azure swan]

doesnt seem to be very good at dodging converging torps surprisingly

[azure swan]

if no slow down they go at the perfect speed to just catch up to tenrai torps

[untold crater]

You can use all of these ships?

[still minnow]

yes

[deft escarp]

If you're gonna go all out on AA then might as well use Cheshire

[still minnow]

I tried her but she slows the VG down too much

reno is better

since she's faster and also buffs the CVs

and reno gets to use eagle damage control

[lunar echo]

A fellow Reno enjoyer

[untold crater]

Musashi/Shinano/Aquila/Anchorage/Reno/Plymouth

Give me a min to get proper equips

[still minnow]

I know the meta equips,s houldn't be an issue

why is musashi useful?

[glacial lintel]

because musashi does musashi stuff, big damage and highest hp bb in the game

[uncut agate]

She's tanky af and her barrage hits like a truck

[frigid hamlet]

truck sounds weaker than warship

[coral wren]

Lol

[untold crater]

she is very hard to kill and her barrage does a lot of damage

[still minnow]

oh, I didn't know that gun on musashi LOL

wtf

[untold crater]

barrage spam ijn gun

[coral wren]

Gotcha

That's good to know

[untold crater]

can also use this one

[still minnow]

the rainbow yamato gun that was available in musashi's event, is that best in slot for any purpose?

[untold crater]

bit lower but more shelling

[still minnow]

not just in pvp but generally

[glacial lintel]

by the time you fire with that gun, the match is probably over

[untold crater]

probably in pve; pvp not really

[still minnow]

I forgot to buy it

LOL

just wondering if I'm missing out on anything

[deft escarp]

I don't think you're missing out on too much by not having it

Just use Izumo gun for PvE

[lunar echo]

The 460's annoying to work with unless you put it on UvH or Champy

[untold crater]

in pve can just use izumo and sync with helena anyways

[lunar echo]

It's way too slow to sync up with anything

[still minnow]

what is angel feather for? catapult that gives eva instead of hp?

[glacial lintel]

its good for when you need big alpha. etc EX mode

[untold crater]

less avi way more survivability

[coral wren]

I actually use the twin rainbow gun on Musashi lol

[lunar echo]

I just use Izumo gun

The barrage still chews through everything anyway

[glacial lintel]

you're kinda missing out on her improved barrage

[still minnow]

is 15 eva a lot?

I always thought that was basically nothing because pvp ships have lots of acc

[untold crater]

you can consider maybe swapping nanos feather with aql wnt and making her flagship; since nano has way less hit than aql

[untold crater]

its more than the 75 hp or w/e cata gives; since aql has like 46 eva or smt

[coral wren]

Starting to notice that lol

[untold crater]

nano has bit more; like 50

[still minnow]

cata gives 90 hp, and it gets doubled cuz pvp buffs

[untold crater]

*2.4 yeah

[still minnow]

not saying that 200 hp or however much is a lot tho

the idea is that 15 eva gives more ehp than 200 hp I guess?

[untold crater]

Yeah likely a lot more, but ehp calc for backliners

[still minnow]

what's wrong with backliner ehp calc?

[untold crater]

afaik there is none

only for vg ships