pvp

[whole salmon]

Main gun wise then most are deciding between the 2

Twin 410 is still the safer option but I’m still experimenting with Twin 356

[floral wave]

what was the seyd fleet you used

that brahs weeb didnt like

[whole salmon]

Mhm my Seydlitz fleet?

[floral wave]

ye, what was the backline

[whole salmon]

It was Seydlitz NJ Aquila, Ancho Agir Shima

With Swordfish Aquila and Quint Torp Agir

[floral wave]

musashi instead of nj? :pausechamp:

[whole salmon]

This works because it applies 80% slow on enemy weeb frontline

Combo that with Seydlitz early strike and barrage

And the slow lasts long enough until NJ’s 10 sec barrage

And occasional torp hits from Shima

And the enemy frontline should be dead 15 sec into the round

[floral wave]

hm, not gonna work with musashi then

[whole salmon]

And Brah hated that fleet with every ounce of his body

[tall nimbus]

[whole salmon]

I did some copium fleets before

Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t

But whatever, might as well try

[whole salmon]

Harbin already destroyed the Seydlitz fleet

So it doesn’t work

[floral wave]

well

[whole salmon]

Rest in peace my highly copium ideas

[floral wave]

people seem to consider juneau instead or harbin now

[whole salmon]

I also tried Amagi NJ Vanguard before

[floral wave]

or is it just for weeblike fleets

[whole salmon]

It caused trouble for Ari and Unknown

Plasma also found it annoying

Next I did the Seydlitz NJ Hiryuu fleet

Which is triple Invul

Aldarn regarded it as “cancerous defense”

It is trash but it is funny

Just find a couple few folks that are high ranking then roll each other on second week

Chat with them and tell them which gear to put on defense for testing

That’s how we at Lexington is doing it currently

[tall nimbus]

maybe next season if i still want to test a fleet

i missed like 25 attacks when the whole city's internet died for 3 days

[floral wave]

if thats amagi you could be close to meeting me

or wait, i missed only 11 i think

[tall nimbus]

im around rank 2000 range with 0/10

[floral wave]

next season copium

[tall nimbus]

good thing unlike borgar im actually retired so i

[wanton rune]

which one is harbin gun?

[tall nimbus]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Prototype_Twin_130mm_Model_1936_Main_Gun_Mount

[untold crater]

Why that over Tash gun?

[wanton rune]

is it harbin BiS?

[tall nimbus]

oh BiS? i thought u were asking for the chinese DD gun

harbin BiS is the twin 135 sap gun or tash gun

[whole salmon]

Tash gun is 35 FP, Harbin gun is 35 FP with 10 AA

While their dps is similar

So as an aux gun in pvp, Harbin gun is better

https://youtu.be/aXo8O5c22ZY

As for testings part 2

Brah’s fleet feels stronger than Vice’s

[floral wave]

missclick react

anyways

found any non weeb fleets?

[whole salmon]

Not many strong ones

At this point, I only trust testings against others EOS player’s strong def fleets

[floral wave]

makes sense

[whole salmon]

Any testings against like mid tier Mafia feels inconclusive

As their gears may not be as good or fully enhanced

Or other factors like using pve gear

Or just them not knowing how to gear properly

[floral wave]

mid tier mafias get smokes even by my fleet so yeah

[whole salmon]

However all top people are testing out Musashi currently

[floral wave]

not so good for testing

[whole salmon]

So pftt idk when I will ever find one

[floral wave]

feels like musashi is too strong to pass on anyway

[whole salmon]

Yeah true

Her barrage is ridiculous

The range of the sword pretty much super large that you can slap the enemy BB across the map

As for the lightning, it has very high hit rate

And it can even strike backline

Its damage is quite high and it applies debuff

[floral wave]

hm, now that i think of it

does the sword slap a carrier if its hidden

it should, no?

[whole salmon]

It does

But the lightning doesn’t hit

Any fixed barrage can slap hidden carriers

Targetting barrages don’t

[floral wave]

i dont mind, solves my vanguard fight issues

[whole salmon]

So stuff like FDG barrage

Or Richelieu barrage

Or part of Amagi barrage

This is why triple BB works for a time

Slapping enemy hidden CV with Riche and FDG barrage as they are fixed while the burn damage would reveal them

So you can reveal CVs using triple BB

Quite a funny comp

[floral wave]

too bad no ones realistically gonna use richie now

more like, musashi/vang/nj/fdg mix

[untold crater]

Gotcha

[zenith lantern]

Just roll me

[candid sluice]

How much dmg is sashis fixed barrage

Does it always hit the ship across from it

[floral wave]

yes to second

as for first, 4.4k sword slap crit into aquila, 4.1k lightning crit

i could try more runs if you need more data

didnt check but probably without wnt

[candid sluice]

are u using offensive or defensive auxes

[floral wave]

and it was w/o wnt

[coral wren]

You didn't get her 460 main gun?

[floral wave]

i did

its useless in pvp

[candid sluice]

*useless everywhere

[knotty cave]

Why the blue and not the purple?

[floral wave]

bit faster, just testing stuff out anyway

[knotty cave]

And not using a CL secondary...

[floral wave]

idk man, does she need more fp?

also thats again just testing stuff around, backread pink sugar for explanation on that secondary

[young storm]

got to admiral for first time

[untold crater]

Go for AoTN

I believe

[young storm]

I dont think I can with my fleet xd

[untold crater]

Well, it's not about your fleet lol

But yeah that vanguard needs work

[young storm]

I beat a mafia this round but I think it was just badly equipped

also I got insane rng on the fight xd

[untold crater]

What vanguard ships you got in your dock?

[untold crater]

How much longer until you get an Anchorage and Juneau?

Wait you have 120 juneau

[young storm]

well Juneau is there at the bottom but its gonna take quite a bit for ancho

[untold crater]

Why not use her

Swap kita for Juneau there

[young storm]

I tried but since my vang is just dds her health thing is not really that good

[untold crater]

Take out Jervis for Helena

Better fleet alpha dmg, require resets

[untold crater]

Her skill is for the backline mostly lol

[young storm]

damn really wtf xD

with my fleet I usually win because my vang kills the other vang and lose when my vang dies too fast and the opponent vang just comes over and destroys my backline

[untold crater]

That's why you put Juneau as tank

Shes first to die and keeps rest of VG alive

Keep Helena alive until 20s proc

Suzu helps that with smokescreen

[winged depot]

juneau will sink for you

[untold crater]

Then with nano and hiryuu AS you wipe his Vanguard

Show equips

[winged depot]

I actually have lesser resets now that I have musashi. Thx for builds btw

[untold crater]

[winged depot]

switch that +13 wyvern to the other slot of nano

first slot has lower efficiency

[young storm]

oh wow I quick swap so I would've never found that out by myself thanks xD

[winged depot]

since yukana's here he'll help you with the rest

[untold crater]

Well

[young storm]

so with that said, then this? (ill retro juneau when I got the gold)

[untold crater]

yeah

[young storm]

mm alright ill test it out

[untold crater]

Now for those equips, assuming you have no tenrai, 457, quint mags i have a lot of changes to suggest

Give me 2 mins it's too much to type

[young storm]

no I dont have those 3

also its pretty unrelated since im gonna take her out anyway but im still curious, why does kitakaze die so damn fast in pvp?

shes even in the middle slot...

im gonna 120 musashi soon but not sure if Vang Musa Shinano would be better than current main line

cuz hiryuu has saved my ass an enormous amount of times

[winged depot]

change vg the ship

my hiryuu, nano, musashi (115) backline has more success than with Vanguard sadly

[young storm]

mmm yeah indeed I could just keep backline cvs the same and swap my vanguard for my musashi

[untold crater]

Yeah I'm not expert for musashi yet but seems she will be better than HMS Vanguard is

More comparable to NJ than Vanguard was

[zenith lantern]

I’d put the +10 Wyvern on Hiryuu and either a Breguet or a Sea Hornet in Shinano’s first slot. Assuming you don’t have a Suisei instead of the Helldiver. 2xWyvern + Helldiver on Shinano is really slow to launch.

Hiryuu flagship better than Vanguard too

[untold crater]

This is in the event you have 0 tenrai and 0 457mm guns

[young storm]

I didnt even know theres a gold version of this gun

[untold crater]

USS gear lab

Wait i used wrong equips

[young storm]

oh you changed your mind nvm then I guess xd

[untold crater]

Yeah i gear itnwrong

Feel free to remove that xd

Here is better

And also since your Musashi almost ready might as well make a fleet for her

[young storm]

true

may I ask why the fire thing on suzu tho?

[untold crater]

For musashi gearing I'm not 100% sure maybe @whole salmon or @zenith lantern knows better since lexi did some preliminary testing

[untold crater]

Prevent burn to help her survive longer

She is DD so Eva and speed not her main issues

[untold crater]

If you don't have access to 12a suisei you can simply use the normal one

[young storm]

I can make it fortunately

[untold crater]

Everything else on the image is also obtainable?

[young storm]

I think only Goldburn is unobtainable for me

[untold crater]

Ah you missed the Collab gear

I guess maybe can just use the toolbox?

[young storm]

yeah

thanks for this ill have to grind those MLBs for the Rainboow bubble and beaver squad now xd

[untold crater]

Yeah both are relatively easy and quite essential to pvp so recommend getting them

Pretty much used in every pvp comp

[young storm]

also can get only 1 barrel for now cuz monthly limit but its ok ill crush everyone in october

[untold crater]

It'll be in time for next season anyways it's fine

The truly important thing for AoTN rank is sandbagging, not your fleet

[young storm]

Whats that?

[untold crater]

Playstyle method

You essentially, stay 10/10 exercises and do one only when the player on your left awards you more points than you would usually get.

Then when 9/10 you repeat this process

[young storm]

oh is there no cap on the reward points?

[untold crater]

And before the next reset (usually around 15-10mins beforehand you go to 5/10, preparing for your next set)

[untold crater]

There is, but can't reach it without missing exercises

Which is not optimal for point minmaxing

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/643697081210503168/724535999522144266/rank.PNG

Let's say late into the season the base reward for fighting a player is +10 points

If i were to fighting this player "Juwumy" i would get +11 and not +10 points

Since he is Above the 35 point threshold shown above

As such i fight him and take that one bonus point

@young storm makes sense?

Also, this works backwards too, fighting Pavlik there would have awarded me with a +9 since his score was lower

And if i were to fight someone with 35 points or less, i would get a +8

[young storm]

[untold crater]

This stacks up over time and you end up having quite a few more points than the rest of the players around you

Making ranks such as AoTN much much easier

[trail temple]

and now the overcap pain begins

[zenith lantern]

Your Musashi gear should be pretty much there although I’ve not really been part of the testing. I was on holiday for the start of the event. I’ll only get her today from hitting pity, currently 180 builds no drop

[neon bronze]

for Vanguard, triple406mle or twin457?

and for Musashi, izumo gun, twin356 41st year type or twin410kai?

currently doing Vanguard - Warkai - Perseus as my backline, aim to replace Warkai once I get Musashi raised. And maybe Juneau too, though i don't believe in her for some reason i don't know how to explain

wait did i ping the guy i replied to?

sorry if so

[zenith lantern]

457 for Vanguard

And don’t worry about not believing in Juneau, she’s not a universal pick. If you’re running a fleet that tries to finish battles fast she’s much less useful compared to in a slower fleet

[jolly viper]

[lusty hill]

do you guys use the same fleet for the attack and defense?

[uncut agate]

no, my defence fleet is a meme fleet, attack fleets is a meta fleet

[lusty hill]

wouldn't it affect your ranking if your defense fleet lose?

[zenith lantern]

It doesn't affect it

Using a strong fleet for defence might make others lose or at least avoid fighting you. But you might want people to have an easy time beating you so it's easier to get bonus points off them later in the season

[lusty hill]

wait so what affect ranking then cuz it always go up above 1000 everytime I wake up

[uncut agate]

your current score determines your rank

people who won more exrecises/got more bonus will rank higher

[lusty hill]

wait so defense fleet doesn't matter at all? only to annoy people?

[uncut agate]

yeah

i guess defence fleet matters in the last 5 minutes of a season for the people fighting for top 3 eos ranks

[lusty hill]

what is eos?

[uncut agate]

end of season

[prisma pagoda]

[lusty hill]

what does it mean using easy fleet so to get bonus point?

[uncut agate]

if you put easy defence fleets, weaker players will move more often and increase your chances of getting bonus points

[lusty hill]

sorry I still don't get it, what is this bonus point? does that mean weak player move up the ladder so that I can defeat them easily?

[uncut agate]

not excatly, check pins to see how it works

[lusty hill]

ok thanks

[uncut agate]

.

[lusty hill]

does restarting the game really refresh the opponents?

is it like refresh or do I have to wait few minutes or something before I open the game

[uncut agate]

restarting the games gives you their updated rankings, it doesn't change your opponents

[torpid shuttle]

this ijn fleet is good

[alpine needle]

Does the 30% dmg reduc part of Musashi S3 work in pvp? The skill name doesnt seem to pop up at the start of the battle

[uncut agate]

It works in pvp

[floral wave]

are you for real

no, thats not the point

theres this thing called attacker advantage

[alpine needle]

Would it still work as flag since theres no acv in pvp?

[celest steppe]

In theory against a newbie fleet, a 125 bulin with dual toolbox would still have ~2.5k HP purely off level diff wouldn't it?

[floral wave]

pvp is default parity

[celest steppe]

You could also throw 2 twin 134's on a bulin for 30fp, and a twin 128 gives her another 30

[untold crater]

That's a bit long..

[oblique silo]

What were you using?

[trail temple]

ez win
7th time
Something doesn't quite add up

[untold crater]

Yeah looks like your reading comprehension

He said it's the 7th time he has faced this fleet

And still has had no issues

[candid sluice]

reading lessons from someone who skips classes?

[untold crater]

Yeah when you getting schooled by a skipper it's a rough one i know

[lusty hill]

Any tips to get rank always under 1000? I got a cursed timezone where the second reset is 2am in the morning and I can only play around when I woke up 4 hours later and by that time my rank is already above 1000 and only get 80 reward each win

[untold crater]

Yes go to 0/10 lol

If you can't be up before the next set drop to 0/10

[lusty hill]

I'll try that

[untold crater]

You should only be rank 1k or over if you missed exercises or lose exercises

[trail temple]

If you say so

[torpid shuttle]

if i use WNT, what am i stalling for

im gonna try hiryu shina musa in like two days

and i dont rly wanna use frontier medal with musa

but i dont know how to use it ig

[trail temple]

You aren't necessarily stalling with wnt but reducing damage spikes

So in that comp, you'll be trying to reduce the damage taken from torps and since you have the advantage as the attacker (I'm assuming you're using this for attack), that will offset the damage debuff you take from wnt

[torpid shuttle]

ya, is my attack

[north lark]

Triple 155 kai as secondary for a BB good in PvP?

[neon bronze]

taking a look at the Sniper fleets pinned, yes

[north lark]

Okie. Ty

[untold crater]

if i say so or if he says so?

[trail temple]

You don't want me to agree with you?

[untold crater]

I'm not the one that said i don't have issues against that fleet

[dreamy lance]

https://youtu.be/AzkU4bHXFlc Part 6 of the long-awaited series is now here Brah wants to tell everyone that the next few tests will include Musashi

[uncut agate]

[neon bronze]

quick question, why do the tryhards have the carriers at the middle, and the bbs at the sides?

as seen in this video

[untold crater]

NJ on top for TB pattern reason

TB always go middle and bottom never top

Enemy fleets case idk but for Perseus fleet she might as well tank shots since she's probably not gonna get a 3rd AS in

[uncut agate]

I put VV as my flagship in mafia so she'll generally die first

[zenith lantern]

It also matters for teatorps, they’re more likely to hit the flagship or bottom position.

Basically the topmost position is most likely to survive so you want your most valuable ship there. Flagship usually takes the most damage so you either put your least valuable there or someone with invulnerability like Hiryuu. Usually it’s a CV that goes flagship as they attack slower than BBs so you dont expect them to get off more than 1 airstrike anyway (+preload)

[neon bronze]

[stable echo]

yesterday I saw someone running shima, noshiro, jintsu as their vg in pvp, somehow the torpedos(I assume) manage to instant kill my flag NJ in the back. I tried to copy it for fun but I dont seems to output as much damage as their fleet. Anyone know what is their gear loadout?

[uncut agate]

what torpedo were they using? teatorps or standard?

[stable echo]

didnt pay attention to that, whats teatrops btw?

[uncut agate]

they probably had something like this + the buffs from noshiro/jintsuu

[trail temple]

Also keep in mind the vanguard starts closer to you than theirs

[stable echo]

I see

[trail temple]

So def torps are more likely to hit your backline than the converse

[candid sluice]

defender advantage

[prisma pagoda]

What's happen if maintenance gets longer than pvp reset ?

[untold crater]

we overcap and mald

[prisma pagoda]

[uncut agate]

server score drops and we get compensation merit in mail copium

[stable dawn]

it happened during microlayer

[river marsh]

0/10 gang

[tacit relic]

[trail temple]

inb4 a simple maint causes another microlayer medley

[floral wave]

all because of the report function

[snow crane]

Are you perhaps playing on Amagi server?

[stable echo]

no, on avrora

[snow crane]

I see

[untold crater]

Thought it was you?

[snow crane]

I am running a similar VG so was wondering if my meme defense fleet actually did something

[stable echo]

in case you were curious, for that fight, I put anchorage in front to tank and somehow manage to win it, the torp meme is though

[young storm]

hear me out

PVP with subs

[floral wave]

id describe the idea but it would get blocked

whats the point in adding anything without reworking how current system works

[torpid shuttle]

how does musashi barrage prio work in PvP?

who does she target

[winged depot]

her slash is the one who she is facing and so far all I see is that the lightnings hit anyone randomly

[south leaf]

Too powerfull, maybe someone will equip oxy torps and it's far more dangerous

[prisma pagoda]

Damn... I just fogot to do 5 exercise pass reset

Rank1 5/10 to rank1 0/10 little sadly

[trail temple]

Yeah I noticed you skipped

[quasi dust]

Hello PvP nerds
Is Musashi+enty+vanguard (idk who flag lol) good to maintain wins?

[uncut agate]

you can try musashi/vanguard/warspite or hiryuu or shinano. enty isn't that useful there

[frigid bane]

I have Aquila, Musashi and Iowa in back line, doing well into breaking the mafia fleet

[floral wave]

got iowa but no yamato?

[coral wren]

Iowa doesn't even exist

[brazen socket]

Can someone post the gear set for weeb fleet with sushi

[floral wave]

same as the one in pins except sushi with purple/blue gun

[frosty goblet]

[south leaf]

NJ: am i joke to you?

[solid inlet]

whats a good fleet composition if you only have the sr meta pvp ships but none of the UR ones except for musashi?

[untold crater]

Probably Musashi/Warspite/Hiryuu

Ancho/Noshiro/Juneau maybe for vanguard

Or Harbin over Noshiro of you have her

[solid inlet]

should i pick aquila + vv over warspite + hiryuu?

[untold crater]

Not sure...

How is Musashi your only UR but you have all these other ships

I guess can use a fleet like Musashi/AQL/VV/Ancho/Duca/Juneau

[solid inlet]

i stopped playing when the first UR banner came out and I pulled on ducas banner but got everyone except for her

can I replace duca with zara?

[untold crater]

No if you don't have Duca the fleet won't work

Better to go Warspite Hiryuu after all

[solid inlet]

alright ty

[coral wren]

I know NJ exists

[flint sun]

is ok to use Shima Juneau ancho?

(Shima instead of duca)

[floral wave]

its not a matter of shima instead of duca

its juneau instead of duca

[flint sun]

nevermind then

[floral wave]

the only time you dont run shima is when you dont have her

[flint sun]

Ah yes.. Same fleet.. about I wanna throw Juneau in somewhere so bad

[floral wave]

use shinano/hiryuu/musashi

juneau fits there well

[flint sun]

interesting team..

[floral wave]

standard weeb fleet, but musashi in place of nj

[candid sluice]

damn americas ass really got replaced by japans ass

[trail temple]

Time to put NJ to full time pve duties?

[lusty hill]

Is Garibaldi better than chapayev for pvp?

[untold crater]

Why use either...?

[lusty hill]

Both of them sucks?

I mean I don't have duca abruzzi so I thought Garibaldi is like the poverty version

[dreamy lance]

Who hasn't hit their aotn yet

[candid sluice]

🙋

[stable dawn]

I've never pvped in my life. I just like the memes.

[torpid shuttle]

so, with hiryuu shina musa

is wnt good?

im not running shima, so i dont benefit from dmg spike

but

idk

[candid sluice]

It’s good in the right fleet

[torpid shuttle]

hiryuu musa shina juneau noshi ancho

[dreamy lance]

Brah wants to tell everyone to get their AoTN just like him

[empty mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/zyzz-proud-zyzz-gif-24463734

[lusty hill]

is this even useful? this reduce damage to both side right, then what difference does it makes?

[trail temple]

I mentioned it previously but it lessens the damage spike for both sides

But since the attacker has the advantage of taking less damage from the defending team, it's not as bad

In short, you are able to get more consistent games

[zenith lantern]

Also if you have a slow fleet like Shinano, Hiryuu, Musashi it helps you get to the point where they can start to do damage without them dying to quicker firing ships first

[south leaf]

I hate achroage hide and seek skills

Literally

She needs a nerf

But... Since she's good for pvp fleets i will use her for now

Until she's nerfed

[zenith lantern]

Without her most fights wouldn't last 20s

[untold crater]

Don't think ships get nerfed

[zenith lantern]

Shima, NJ, Musashi need nerfing before Anchorage

[merry vale]

pvp balancing.

[jovial basin]

WHOO BOY THAT WAS TOASTY

I was fighting a MF of Shinano, Perseus, Ryuuhou. Their VG was Shimakaze and a couple others I forgot.

My MF was Bismarck, Graf, and Ulrich. VG was Prinz, Z46, and Roon.

[flat veldt]

[jovial basin]

I'm in bottom tiers.

XD

[snow ibex]

when you didn't quit battle in time and lost a whole season

life is pain

[lusty hill]

does end of season people suddenly become crazy strong? cuz I can't beat anyone now lol

[coral wren]

Some are strong, but mostly they still use weak defense fleet

[old portal]

What does main gun efficiency do?

[floral wave]

increase dmg

[high bay]

is it still a good idea to put the damage control aux to juneau kai?

or better to put it on someone else?

[oblique silo]

Put it on Anchorage

[copper fulcrum]

@gleaming veldt Arkbk

[lime folio]

https://tenor.com/view/zyzz-fistpump-gif-4689886

[still nova]

Not sure if Memphis should replace someone in my pvp defending fleet or if it should stay as is ...

[oblique silo]

It’s fine

[floral wave]

waifu fleet is waifu fleet

[torpid shuttle]

which one takes prio if both are in fleet?

[uncut agate]

skills of both needs flagship and can't be equipped together on the same ship so

[torpid shuttle]

ah so that's it, thanks

[frigid hamlet]

then what if your flagship has WNT and enemy flagship has Frontier

[untold crater]

Both activate

[frigid hamlet]

so they add, probably

[candid sluice]

guys how do i join the azur lane pvp esport tournament??

[clear briar]

Not through this server sos

[untold island]

@candid sluice

update sheet when?

also for usability sake a bit of feedback, you want the latest changelog at the top

[floral wave]

sushi not properly tested yet i guess

and changes quite a lot

[untold island]

I guess

isnt VG also used nowadays though?

[floral wave]

yeah she is

thought she was included in zoomer comp

or is that not in the sheet

[untold island]

I thought she would have been in T0

[floral wave]

ah thats prolly because it wasnt updated recently

[untold island]

I wonder if would be possible to collect data of fleet used for ATK/DEF for the first 100 players every EOS

just to see the most used comps

that fit the tier

[floral wave]

cant really be done for atk

or am i wrong

[untold island]

stuff like this

yeah ATK can't be done unless players submit their atk fleet

DEF can be done but DEF dont matter much iirc

its just for completition sake

also doubt anyone would

[floral wave]

some people probably would because they dont mind, but getting a top100 of each server to do that seems unrealistic

[untold crater]

seen it done before but need to also consider the fact that a lot of people use meme fleets

[torpid shuttle]

does two wnt stack from me and enemy

and is it additive -15% or multiplicative?

[candid sluice]

Will update once we get more confirmation and testing with sushi new meta

(Also when I’m not busy)

[lunar echo]

Oh that's cursed

[untold crater]

[trail temple]

ALM did that a while, it was a lot of work and hard to make it "accurate" because they can only look at defence fleets

What one may use for attack may not necessarily what they use for defence

[trail temple]

Yeah attack is too hard to do passively. It will rely on people providing data and that's not reliable at all

[lusty hill]

is this gun better than champy for pvp?

[trail temple]

Yes

[edgy glen]

hiryuu still good? returnee me

[winged depot]

yep

[edgy glen]

hmm hiryuu warspite and chise for main and kronk yuudachi roon vanguard is what i use rn i think thats good enough, no? defo nit enough against NJ mafia i can imagine

[untold crater]

Show dock

[edgy glen]

okay wait a sec

here

[untold crater]

Try Musashi/Warspite/Hiryuu/Ancho/Juneau/Harbin

[edgy glen]

i can build ancho but not harbin not enough dragon empery

[untold crater]

can use Helena or something i guess

[steel coral]

aya with aug

[open reef]

Is this a good pvp fleet?

[untold crater]

That vanguard melts like butter

Show dock

[untold crater]

Uhhh

I guess you can use Musashi/Shinano/Hiryuu/Ancho/Ayanami/Juneau

All these ships should be obtainable for you with ease

Juneau drops everywhere this event

Hiryuu B2 iirc

Maybe also D2?

[open reef]

Ok

[iron stream]

whats the standard BB AUX you use in PvP? last I played 2 years ago meta was SG Radar + white shell/HSFCR

[untold crater]

HPFCR (Table is better but we only have one) + EVA auxes like beaver, WNT or Rudder.

[iron stream]

I see so not much has changed

[untold crater]

Just the ships pretty much

Some new guns you use

Namely MK7 is used

Bigger equip changes were probably to CVs in past 2 years

[iron stream]

I still have mostly new ships and gear was just a login warrior not doing much besides daily missions and bear minimum event grinds

i did miss the past 2-3 events before this musashi one

[untold crater]

That's fine

Seems the next meta won't use those ships

Swapping VV for Musashi and Duca for anchorage should be good

[iron stream]

was wondering what the new thing was

[untold crater]

What you mean?

[iron stream]

new meta*

[untold crater]

Ahh gotcha

[iron stream]

wasnt sure if mafia was still basically the #1 thing to run

[untold crater]

The gun to be used on Musashi seems a bit unorthodox, i don't remember which one it was

@whole salmon what gun was it again?

[whole salmon]

If you run Musashi with NJ

[iron stream]

i was planning on using her signature gun for shelling but ive seen twin 410/gear lab 410 recommended

[whole salmon]

It is either Musashi 356, NJ 457

Or Musashi 410, NJ MK4

[untold crater]

thanks

[whole salmon]

Musashi 410 and NJ 457 would cause NJ’s salvo to be delayed in firing

It’s due to absolute cd

Very unfortunate

[iron stream]

swapping duca for anchorage seems like a sizable DPS drop for vanguard since neither her or juneau seem to do much in post battle charts

[whole salmon]

If it is Musashi alone without other BBs then run 410

If it is Musashi with other BBs then use the case above

[iron stream]

i dont have musashi close to leveled yet so cant test that fleet

[whole salmon]

What you need isn’t dps, it’s survivability, especially against other Musashis

1 salvo from enemy Musashi would outright kill or cripple your entire frontline excluding Ancho

[iron stream]

it is still early I guess havent seen a single leveled muashi in exe

amagi snail pace

[whole salmon]

Other servers already had 125 Musashis in pvp on the first day of her release

Especially among the higher ranking players

[iron stream]

yeah amagi just snail then

[whole salmon]

So we got a lot of testings in

TLDR is that Musashi is busted

Just use her

Musashi’s lightning strikes deals insanely high damage with stupidly high hit rate as it doesn’t really care about speed

[iron stream]

👀

[whole salmon]

Unlike NJ’s barrage where you can easily dodge it with speed padding items if the barrage targets frontline

[iron stream]

mines still lv70 gonna be a grind

[whole salmon]

Not to mention Musashi’s sword barrage has insane range

Vertically, it can hit enemy frontline most of the time

Horizontally, it can slap the enemy backliners from across the map

There’s currently 4 Musashi comps in testing

Musashi NJ Aquila
Musashi NJ Hiryuu
Musashi NJ Shinano
Musashi Hiryuu Shinano

All of which seems to have positive results, we don’t have a large enough sample size to determine which is better

[iron stream]

Is musashi barrage aimed and flag dependent or can u just chuck her on the side for damage reduction?

[untold crater]

Fought quite a lot of musashis today and yesterday

On amagi ^^

[whole salmon]

Damage reduction applies in pvp regardless of position

[iron stream]

must be because server just reset then and I was procrastinating the past week

[whole salmon]

What is sort of for certain

Musashi fleets can easily sweep non Musashi fleets

Only weeb fleet semi puts up a fight

The rest just dies

[iron stream]

take it thats meta hiyruu

i never ended up building mine

[whole salmon]

Musashi barrage has 2 parts

Firstly is the sword slash, it is a huge beam that hits in a straight line with super long range so it can hit enemy backliners and enemy frontliners along its path

The second part are lightning strikes, it can strike both frontline and backline with super high hit rate. Tbh I don’t even think you can even use speed to dodge it

So 1 Musashi barrage and the enemy frontliner is either crippled or dead

[coral wren]

[whole salmon]

As for her survivability then

11k HP with 30% damage reduction

So you don’t have to worry about that

She can probably take a full torp salvo from mkix to the face and survive

[iron stream]

a ship i dont know

[untold crater]

harbin

[zenith lantern]

She can. I've managed to snipe her at the start of the fight once or twice but that was probably multiple Teatorp conga lines hitting her from Harbin + Shima

[mental otter]

Hey guys! Could someone please advice me a good pvp fleet?

[trail temple]

Check the pins for some suggestions

[untold crater]

Pinned spreadsheet not updated yet but fleets with Musashi are proving to be very tricky so i would recommend putting her in any of those meta fleets in the pins

[paper perch]

Anyone have an EoS list for Lex by any chance? Decided to make an effort for once and missed updating the listings before the reset

[sour oasis]

Depends on where you are in the game
Beginners can take losses against super high level fleets and use PvP as a fast and oil-free XP source
Intermediates can pick and choose easy fights and just get the bonus merit from consistently winning
End-game ||no-lifers|| make meta fleets that capitalize on excessive grinding of rare equipment and research ships and lucky rolls 90 pulls; where are my banner ships?! and ||set strong defense fleets to troll other end-game no-life players.||

[zenith lantern]

Yeah we have screenshots

[paper perch]

Great. Could you link the AotN list for Lex (or send it to me)?

[mental otter]

I can post my docks, if u want

But i guess im somwhere in midgame or so

Starting w12 and 88 skk lvl

[sour oasis]

Well, if you have Anchorage (PR) and NJ (event), it doesn't matter what your player level is. You just need to support them with ships like Aquila (event), FdG (research), Abruzzi (event), Noshiro (build), Harbin (research), Hiryuu (drop), Juneau (drop), and Musashi (current event) are some current high potency ships.

The most efficient synergy builds involve farming Operation Siren for specific torpedoes (in a torpedo centric offensive fleet) or rainbow BB guns (for NJ and the like).

[mental otter]

Sadly, i dont have neither ancho or nj, nor aquila abruzzi noshiro or harbin

[sour oasis]

Yeah, your best bet at the moment is to hunt for easy to beat fleets using whatever you have. Refreshing when you get the chance, taking a loss if you have to. But as long as you win most of your fights, there's a chance to get the 2500 merit bonus if you get lucky and make it to the top 10 for a split second.

Most of PvP success revolves around strong synergy (and a lot of luck retrying fights)

[uncut agate]

what's your in-game name? I can look you up in the screenshots

[paper perch]

Sine Mora

[uncut agate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/974830131606609940/1023852318673866752/IMG_0637.png

[sour oasis]

You can still set up a torpedo centered front line (Ayanami Jintsu Shiranui) and hope they (a.) don't immediately die to a preloaded airstrike because they are VERY fragile and (b.) Immediately nuke a few defenders with their preloaded forward firing (OpSi farmed) torpedoes. (But also avoid fighting defenses that use that.)
Or build a defensive offense (because tanky ships like Hiryuu and Juneau are droppable, Portland can still be a crutch) and try to outlast some of the higher level also-low-synergy defenses.

[paper perch]

Cheers

[mental otter]

Well, I have shima and yuudachi

[sour oasis]

[mental otter]

So, like, my current pvp fleet is adalbert shima yudachii vanguard fdg enty

[sour oasis]

That's a start.

[mental otter]

Is there any way to make ot better, since i got musashi as well?

Or maybe some other things that could be changed

[sour oasis]

You're going to probably drop Adalbert; generally speaking, CA ships don't fare as well in PvP (Anchorage being the exception since she provides so many buffs)

You can gamble on a full torpedo offense (I would use Ayanami or even Ibuki... And a lot of resets). Don't suppose you have Juneau Azuma or Ägir? They are some tanky ships to increase front line survivability.
You can also pair Juneau or Enterprise with an elite repair Manjuu (or Hiryuu) so you have a buffer to hit that reset button.
Enterprise herself can be replaced by Musashi in flag position. That gives you a 3 BB backline that, like a torpedo front, gambles against specific defensive parties.

[sour oasis]

At this point, even without Anchorage, you have a good to great chance at getting Admiral of the Navy's bonus 2500 merit depending on how powered up your equipment is (and if you can rush when new tickets come in).

Like I said before, a lot of OpSi grinding for parts plans and plates.

The pins show just how ridiculous equipment farming can get (just look at the Sniper Fleet image)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516951413411020819/978494564384010252/Sniper_Fleet_Variants.png
You still have to be choosy about your opponents, but as long as you don't lose more than 5 fights (including losses to overcap because you slept through a re-up) and aren't on Avrora (where you have a lot of high meta troll defenses) you have a good shot at the 2500 bonis even with just your current fleet and some halfway decent equipment.

[mental otter]

And what about musashi? Is it possible to somehow squeeze her into my fleet?

[sour oasis]

Replace Enterprise and put Musashi on flag. With her at a high level and maximized skills, the defensive boost she gives will help you against all the torpedo defense fleets. (Both in terms of surviving and beating them or just surviving long enough to hit the reset button)

[mental otter]

Isnt she an off flag?

[merry vale]

Her sword swing is position reliant, it'll hit better on everything on flag.

[sour oasis]

And because there's no Airspace issue, she gets the buff anyway if I'm reading it right

[zenith lantern]

Yes she always gets it in pvp as you have air parity

[sour oasis]

||Yeah, I can read! ||

[mental otter]

Ah, okok

So triple bb fleet, right?

[merry vale]

You'll want a preloaded carrier for breaking CV stealth imo.

[zenith lantern]

You could also try Hiryuu if you have her, alongside Musashi and Vanguard

[mental otter]

Yeah, i have her, ofc

[zenith lantern]

Hiryuu, NJ and Musashi looks quite powerful so far and while Vanguard doesn't quite have the same punch as NJ she's still going to do well enough against most fleet

[mental otter]

Hm, so vanguard musashi hiryuu for main, and for vanguard?

Shima and yuudachi for sure

And whom for tank?

[zenith lantern]

Juneau would be your best bet

But really you should work on Anchorage asap. She's not really replaceable by any other ship

The end goal would be to have Anchorage, Shima and Juneau

Juneau is really nice for a slower fleet like Hiryuu plus Musashi

[mental otter]

Mhm, mhm

So for now: _ shima yudachii, musashi vanguard hiryuu, and for future -> ancho shima juneau

[zenith lantern]

Yes pretty much

[mental otter]

Okok

And if i have shinano, should i put her over hiryuu?

Or is hiryuu better for her invincibility?

[zenith lantern]

Oh if you have Shinano and Hiryuu you can run them both alongside Musashi

[mental otter]

Over vanguard?

[zenith lantern]

That fleet really loves Juneau

Yes

It does best with a bit of Operation Siren grinding though as ideally you want 3x Wyvern for it. If you don't have 3 you can put in some of the Breguet from the recent French event instead, they're a weaker but faster launching wyvern really

[mental otter]

Sadly i dont have neither bregeut nor the wyvern

[zenith lantern]

Probably better to stick with Vanguard then until you have a few

I'd use Hiryuu over Shinano also in that case, Shinano usually will only get one airstrike so you have to make it count. Hiryuu will get at least 2 guaranteed

[mental otter]

Mhm, mhm, okaay

Okay, yeah, I guess i got it, more or less

Thanks a lot!

[zenith lantern]

A lot of the best pvp gear comes from Operation Siren so I'd definitely recommend grinding there a bit if you want to make your fleet as strong as you can

[floral wave]

collection has some useful pieces aswell

memento->collection that is

[mental otter]

Aha, okok, thanks

[lament sand]

Does anyone have screens of Amagi EoS AotN from this season?

[sour oasis]

"A bit" is really subjective

[pseudo copper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/817280006044516352/1023853245514387506/unknown.png

Yeah, congrats on 4th

[lament sand]

Thank you

[pseudo copper]

They are posted in ALM so joining there might be a good idea

[untold crater]

Rank 1 this season?

[lament sand]

Ok, will check it out

[lament sand]

Sounds nice, but with my luck I’ll be happy for top 20

[untold crater]

Luck can only get you 1 or 2 points

[empty mesa]

My luck is always awful, can relate.

[prisma pagoda]

Why is Jervis good for PVP?

[torpid shuttle]

isnt

[winged depot]

i've not seen anyone use her yet

[torpid shuttle]

aint on the pvp guide

[neon bronze]

What gun for Musashi, twin410, the kai version, or Izumo gun?

And do i use HSFCR/Table and one of the PvP gears? Or one of the shells instead?

Current fleet is Vanguard (406mle) - WarKai (406mk7) - Perseus - Anchorage (not maxed lvl) - Shimakaze - Noshiro/Yuudachi retro (dunno who)

Currently planning to transition to Vanguard - Musashi - Hiryuu

[zenith lantern]

Twin 410 kai or the blue 356. Izumo probably too slow. Since you're not running a 457 you probably just run the 410 kai since you don't have a clash in reload time

You run Table or HSFCR, the other gear depends on how you want to run your fleet, White Shell and WNT are both good options though

[torpid shuttle]

played vs a stronger shima fleet with wnt

like it alot ngl

[torpid shuttle]

am i supposed to be playing for two strike shinano?

or just playing for musa

[untold crater]

With what fleet?

Shinano fleet usually win when she AS

[normal eagle]

where to get blue356?

[floral wave]

if the fight is not looking a clear win after nano as you might aswell reset

[torpid shuttle]

really

[floral wave]

no point gambling tbh

ive done that, i lost games because of that, wouldnt recommend

[torpid shuttle]

the fleets i have a hardest time with are like

high sextuple fleets or something where my airstrikes dont deal much

[torpid shuttle]

i also have recently but i get it

[floral wave]

it doesnt have to be nano as clear sweep

just so it at least looks like a win

[untold crater]

Gear lab IJN BB

[torpid shuttle]

dont think i can improve from here easily

[untold crater]

Yeah you need to +13

That torp for Juneau is not good

[floral wave]

bulge + noshiro sounds like an overkill, but if it works, it works i guess

[torpid shuttle]

i gave up on juneau

[untold crater]

Quad mag is fine

[torpid shuttle]

i rmbr the mark ix sniping, how about that

[floral wave]

youd need black aux

[untold crater]

But maybe use Boiler over bulge, seems she will die too late no?

[torpid shuttle]

recently 125 juneau, maybe i will downgrade soon

shinano has been tanky enough for her to proc tho

[torpid shuttle]

well idk what to run

i figured vs shima is fine

[floral wave]

boiler/gyro is the usual go-to

my juneau tends to die too late vs shima with bulge but no noshiro

but its all depending on enemy gear tbh

so if it works youre good, just keep in mind if it ever becomes an issue theres easy options to alter it

[torpid shuttle]

tweaking hp timing, alr

[floral wave]

yeah well, not as strict as salvo timings

just if you hit a wall and juneau dying too late seems to be an issue

also youll get a lot more damage overtime as you acquire more wyverns

[torpid shuttle]

ill keep an alt loadout for juneau then rn

[lusty hill]

Ayanami outclassed everyone with only 2 torpedoes

[coral wren]

can u guys at 5k pvp rank move and fight

I need points

[candid sluice]

no i dont think i will

[floral wave]

done

[coral wren]

thanks for moving 2 minutes before maintenance stryk

[floral wave]

no probs

[sweet yoke]

Cutec and captain fluffs (and guildmates) , I know you'll see this (hehe)
Hemlo

[untold crater]

[honest mirage]

Can I spam dock images in here to ask for the fleet

[floral wave]

yes

[winged depot]

no hiryuu?

[floral wave]

juneau also, or i missed her?

[winged depot]

looks awfully familiar to mine so i'll just post what I use

[floral wave]

pretty much same, but harbin instead of ykkz

could try vang sushi +1 also i guess

[winged depot]

nice names though

[winged depot]

harbin is dev 25 useable yes?

[honest mirage]

Oh yeah I have both, just too low level I lumped them in with the 'ships that I think wouldn't be good'

Also is it worth it if I want to use uni/percy for preload

[winged depot]

those 2 are good on pvp so you can consider raising them I guess

[honest mirage]

Or chise

[winged depot]

with that backline I sent, hiryuu just reveals the CVs with her skill before musashi gets to fire

[honest mirage]

Ok thanks will get them up

See you in 2 days

[floral wave]

idk, started using her at 30

also percy could work with sushi and vang

[winged depot]

welp, guess mines still a long way at dev 17

[honest mirage]

Juneau would also want that aa skill max?

[winged depot]

I have mine max, but I guess she doesn't?

[winged depot]

this backline could also work too

[honest mirage]

Yeah have been running that

[neon bronze]

are those fuel tank aux good for pvp? what does it do

[honest mirage]

So is musashi still flag

[winged depot]

I don't know the concept but when I used it over catapult its actually better

[honest mirage]

Increases HP of Carrier-based aircraft by 140. Increases flight speed of Carrier-based aircraft by 5.

[winged depot]

ahh its for crash damage

[floral wave]

didnt run sushi flag even once tbh

[winged depot]

I would put percy flag and run WNT, fuel tank

[torpid shuttle]

with vang sushi? still wnt on a high dmg comp?

[floral wave]

depends tbh, it makes it more consistent

but yea id try that without wnt first

[torpid shuttle]

oh, and is wnt additive or multiplicative to atk bonus

[floral wave]

think additive but dont quote me on that

[lusty hill]

I forgot to do my exercise before I slept and now I lost 5 try

[untold crater]

[late heath]

I heard if you've Kashino as secretary, you won't forget any exercises

[steel coral]

real and true

[mellow charm]

Based and sexpilled

[nimble wagon]

[fallen drift]

is there any BB main fleet combination that can knock out CV fleets before they launch an airstrike ?

my CVs were still low powered than my BBs

[oblique silo]

Musashi/NJ/Aquila

NJ/Veneto/Aquila

[fallen drift]

i don't have veneto but yes i have aquilla,

what's their gears ?

[oblique silo]

Musashi - twin 410 Kai/Neptune gun/staag/table/white shell

NJ - 457 or mk4/Harbin gun/staag/beaver badge/hsfcr

Aquila - F4U/tenrai/wyvern/aviation fuel/catapult

This is what I use

[fallen drift]

Roger that Comrade

Im still need to make the tenrai and wyvern

[oblique silo]

Replace the tenrai with a helldiver and the wyvern with a cuda or breguet

[fallen drift]

the bomber cuda or the torp cuda ?

[marsh fog]

torp

[fallen drift]

ok

[fallen drift]

Gonna test my first PVP combination on ReMet

[floral wave]

this looks like neither pvp nor META fleet

[fallen drift]

i don't have much ships in docks

[floral wave]

this frontline dies before 1st bb salvo

[fallen drift]

40% of fail chance
i use the most balanced gun i have in gear storage

success breached some ranks in pvp

but yes, i would need more gears and ships with the right combination

but now the guns is kinda... too big for the small pvp vanguards

[floral wave]

dont use this gun in pvp

[fallen drift]

i know

too much reload time

any recomends ?

fdg used the twin UR
UvH used NJs gun

[floral wave]

457 or twin 406 ap from gearlab

[fallen drift]

i would need the fastest rld and high damage for preventing CV from launching airstrike

[floral wave]

mk4 iirc

just dont use mk4 on uvh

but 457 nj and mk4 fdg should be fine

[fallen drift]

and whats for uvh ?

[fallen drift]

Uvh is currently using UR MK7

[floral wave]

457 ideally, but the UR HE might be fine for now

you want a different aa and secondary gun aswell

[fallen drift]

all main in the pict currently using the twin 113 AA

[floral wave]

use staag

they need HIT stat

[fallen drift]

which one is Staag ?

[floral wave]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_40mm_Bofors_STAAG

[fallen drift]

put on all main ? im currently have plenty of it

[floral wave]

on any bb or cvl

that you use in pvp

[fallen drift]

i use full BB to wipe the main fleet

[floral wave]

how do you wipe what you cant see

[fallen drift]

i found many fleet designed with poor Vanguard Movement, making a chance for my fleet to wipe the V before they heal and take the main fleet with the main guns

[torpid shuttle]

nice in theory, but can you beat the meta fleets?

[coral wren]

And I still haven't got that Musashi gun

[honest moon]

parallel/converging torp bombers for pvp?

[uncut agate]

parallel

wyvern>breguet>barracuda

[honest moon]

o.o no skypirate?

[torpid shuttle]

cos they have high crash dmg

skypirate is a low crash damage parallel tb

[neon bronze]

Musashi - Vanguard - Hiryuu retro
or
Musashi - Vanguard - Perseus?

[torpid shuttle]

looks like a perse fleet

[neon bronze]

woulda thinl Shinana too but there's too much "shotgun"

[torpid shuttle]

some people were testing ijn fleet with musa shina hiryuu

[dreamy lance]

Hiryuu/Shinano/Musashi is your best option

[torpid shuttle]

i think i can reset to win against any fleet now, will have to see against 19k fleets

[floral wave]

19k fleets

[empty mesa]

3 CB meta.

[torpid shuttle]

i know fleet power is meme on vanguard

meant backline

[floral wave]

still a meme

19k means anything rainbow you can slot in

no matter the actual performance

[torpid shuttle]

doesnt that come to tenrais and wyverns on ijn

[floral wave]

tenrai nano eww

460 sushi eww

[torpid shuttle]

huh

[floral wave]

tbh i only have one tenrai

but my ijn backline is barely 17k

16.8 with purple gun sushi

dont think id reach 18k if i +13d everything i could

[torpid shuttle]

hm, interesting

[autumn mural]

How much of impact do those things have on pvp?

[floral wave]

quite a bit

more plane hp and speed

[autumn mural]

Im planning to run shinano musashi hiryuu so i guess i probably need 2 of those

Or not

[torpid shuttle]

yes

two

[autumn mural]

[torpid shuttle]

u alrdy running feather wnt?

[autumn mural]

Dont have it

[torpid shuttle]

sad

well wnt is memento

[autumn mural]

Whats wnt

I dont have feather is what i meant

[torpid shuttle]

washington naval treaty from northampton group or smth

[autumn mural]

Oh i have that yeah

I sometimes run that + rudder

To not die from preload

[torpid shuttle]

hiryuu flag is supposed to tank most of it

[autumn mural]

Oh i used to run nagato flag

Switched her out for musashi

But didnt change position

[torpid shuttle]

idk what shina runs without feather

[autumn mural]

I was in hiatus when that event happened

[torpid shuttle]

@floral wave come back

[floral wave]

uh

frontier medal

or catapult

[autumn mural]

So it is better to run hiryuu flag musashi offflag?

[floral wave]

in that team hiryuu flag ye

flagship usually takes most damage

[autumn mural]

Then hiryuu would burn her counter early

Is it ideal

[floral wave]

yeah

since she will never die fast enough to not get first airstrike

which means she gets 2 strikes guaranteed

[autumn mural]

I used to run nagato, now musashi flag

So hiryuu and shinano usually live a little longer

[floral wave]

hiryuu is there to "die" fast

[autumn mural]

This is attack fleet right now

Still raising musashi lvl

While my ancho is dev22 115 too so she isnt ready yet

If i can craft only one wyvern who has priority for that

Hiryuu with counter or shinano

[floral wave]

shinano

[autumn mural]

[floral wave]

hiryuu gets prio for tenrai tho

[autumn mural]

Oh im still at 15/50 for that

What about aux if i run hiryuu flag

Is medal or wnt better with fuel?

Medal would be better if i was running triple cv

But there is musashi

[floral wave]

wnt

medal means opponent cvs deal more damage aswell

and sushis dmg is pretty important

[autumn mural]

What main gun is good for sushi in pvp?

[floral wave]

blue 356/purple 410/gold triple 410

all ijn of course

[autumn mural]

I was trying this

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yeah

that works

but hpfcr or table

and sword aug

[autumn mural]

Oh

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wnt works if you flag her

[autumn mural]

I dont have table so i guess the other one

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hpfcr year

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I gave wnt to hiryuu

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im running table+beaver

[autumn mural]

Beaver is on my vanguard

She is only 115 right now i still need to work on those 5-10 levels

[floral wave]

anything with hit/eva stat works

or white shell

[autumn mural]

Thanks

I left juneau lvl 100 with pearl + manjuu

Would she be better at higher level + retro + no manjuu?

[floral wave]

higher lvl sure

but im not sure about manjuu

its really up to your own testing/liking

also whether you maintank or offtank her

[autumn mural]

I'll test when i have ancho ready then

And leave her as is for the meantime

My shinano seems slows without nagato rld buff with hornet helldiver wyvern setup

I cant do much about that right

Since she is slow to begin with

[floral wave]

suisei db

or wait

whats your launch time on her

with 0 rld tech

[autumn mural]

Uh whats the site calc again

[floral wave]

just check ingame

125 oathed double wyvern+suisei is 22.50

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yeah thats super slow

[autumn mural]

How do you check in game

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do you have breguet?

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No

I left after shinano first event

Come back during her rerun

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here

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So missed everything in the middle

Cant do it for now

And feather i dont know when it will come back

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could try the non upgraded suisei

its fine just run cata

[autumn mural]

I have only one wyvern

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instead of feather

you could also try barracuda/suisei/wyvern

[floral wave]

or even helldiver db if cuda first

[autumn mural]

It is 1s faster with suisei not upgraded

So sea hornet isnt good here for shinano?

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generally you want as much crash dmg out of shinano as possible

issue here is wyvern also intercepts while cuda doesnt

so id test hornet vs cuda

[autumn mural]

On first slot right?

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ye

first slow weaker tb

[autumn mural]

So cuda vs hornet timing wise isnt that different but need to see which one has higher crash dmg

[frigid hamlet]

Does pvp fleet power count fleet tech?

[autumn mural]

I heard it doesnt

[frigid hamlet]

In battle fleet tech is not applied

[floral wave]

lemme see

thats easy to check anyway

nah, same with 0 cv tech and max

[frigid hamlet]

In pve, Lowering fleet tech doesn't affect ship power, but ship power includes fleet tech

So in pvp, defense fleet power includes fleet tech?

[floral wave]

well then

no clue

[trail temple]

It applies your fleet tech values to the opposing fleet, not sure why

But that's why for the same fleet built the exact same way, two people will see two different fleet powers

[fallen drift]

I mostly evade those kind of fleet, there's a bug where phone become lagging by Barrages and making my fleet won't fire its main guns

[wheat torrent]

who thinks it's best for the community that we encourage only meme fleets for defense fleets.

[white palm]

Sorry,what is the link name?

[lime folio]

No top 10 for me this time

0 fucking sandbagging rng

[torpid shuttle]

i decided to sandbag this season

and when i reset, no one's doing their exercises

[trail temple]

That's part of the reason why jp, kr and tw have better scores than us

[torpid shuttle]

they all troll?

[trail temple]

weaker def fleets

[torpid shuttle]

ye

[trail temple]

Easier for rushers to win

More rushers that win mean they get higher scores

Allowing the baggers to reap the benefits

win win

[wheat torrent]

let's do that, i don't like strong defense fleets

[trail temple]

My fleet is weak atm

Actually nvm, triple bulin is op

[lunar echo]

Too many people sandbagging, not enough people rushing

EN is too sweaty

[neon bronze]

how high are the scores in other servers?

[torpid shuttle]

how much am i supposed to bag even

[neon bronze]

how do u even sandbag