history

[strong plank]

it’s m5 now

[shrewd pecan]

just launch these things off of the tank

munitions small enough to be stored in reasonable numbers

and has the same warhead as a Javelin

gives the tank NLOS capability

and if you have a 4th crewmember lets them operate not only the switchblades but other unmanned vehicles

crewless tank wise idk if your getting hit by a ATGM, especially a top down attack one that's bypassed the APS you're likely fucked regardless

tandem warhead straight to the hull

[tough quail]

the point is your crew is actually uh, alive

[frigid karma]

as you wish my lord

[fierce sparrow]

[tender monolith]

neeeh

[tough quail]

the best

[tender monolith]

take it away

[shrewd pecan]

jadgabrams

[frigid karma]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/845349843731873792/977775321996746812/3FBD0017-83E8-495F-9123-677B89E3988D.gif

[tender monolith]

!

[tough quail]

please stop posting that

[tender monolith]

almost forgot you had that

[fierce sparrow]

then someone in ArtStation made a JadgChally...

[shrewd pecan]

I hate

the double click thing

my laptop does

I meant to grab a different gif

immediately clicks the first one I have

[tough quail]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-meme-sonic-heroes-bruh-gif-24774655

[shrewd pecan]

I'll post it in the other server

[strong plank]

https://tenor.com/view/embed-fail-epic-embed-fail-saber-eating-burger-gif-23166537

[fierce sparrow]

[shrewd pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/837784711039418388/981411578668789840/fartslave.gif

one I wanted smh

[frigid karma]

why would you post that

[shrewd pecan]

fart slave 24

[strong plank]

is this somehow better than what you posted before

[frigid karma]

i doubt it

[shrewd pecan]

its not a POW in a cage

[humble mulch]

At least have funny history ones

[frigid karma]

tea please salt the earth

[humble mulch]

[shrewd pecan]

do please

[cinder escarp]

They don't exist yet

[shrewd pecan]

switchblade 600 does to my knowledge

if it doesn't then I don't know why its being procured for certain ongoing conflict then

[cinder escarp]

it's not

They're working on it, but it's not been built outside of a single digit number of handbuilt prototypes

[shrewd pecan]

I see

any new abrams replacement or upgrade is gonna take years to develop and procure regardless

so its not like switch blade isn't out of the realm of possibilities especially when its being considered for arming other platforms like Griffin III

[manic latch]

Knowing Phoneix had this image stored. Good to see learning more about his personal tastes

[tough quail]

same buddy

[shrewd pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831000187798814731/975610891515080734/sadsadddd.gif

a fine addition to the reaction image collection

[chilly osprey]

I actually only discovered this image today, tbh

But, yes, I am an appreciator of muscles on women

[humble mulch]

That’s a little to much shit posting
Please stop or imma hit you

[chilly osprey]

Fair enough. In that case, back to armored cruiser posting.

[ivory ridge]

Very based

[tender monolith]

Someone post the guncotton gunboat

I would but I'm at work

[spring briar]

Wtf happened here last night

[desert agate]

👀

[spring briar]

G’day mate

[desert agate]

Scarnon?

[fierce sparrow]

https://twitter.com/W_Geiger_373/status/1536235622477832192

Waldemar Geiger (@W_Geiger_373)

@RheinmetallAG zeigt seinen #KF51 #Panther

Fotos @soldat_technik

Twitter · Jun 13, 2022, 6:34 AM

[spring briar]

last exam of me life today

[desert agate]

Ooh nice

Best of luck bro

[shrewd pecan]

more I see the KF51 less I like it

design aspects are fine and the vehicle is probably decent. Tho the thing just looks so generic

[shrewd pecan]

o boy they made a tracked boxer

[fierce sparrow]

https://twitter.com/ronkainen7k15/status/1536266272010162176

Ronkainen (@ronkainen7k15)

John Cockerill's upgraded Leopard 1 (A5BE) with 105mm C3105 turret at Eurosatory 2022.

Likes

105

Twitter · Jun 13, 2022, 8:36 AM

https://tenor.com/view/angry-blade-runner-2049-ryan-gosling-anger-gif-16634156

NOT THE LEOPARD 1 !

[spring briar]

opens fb
guy with bismarck pfp talking about allied BB’s being wastes of steel

closes fb

[spiral cedar]

Banish him to the dud shell realm

[spring briar]

USS Massachusetts: exists
The press: dud

[fierce sparrow]

waste of steel... fb...

[junior trench]

the best part

it's Euro-cope BMP-3

it has a 120mm main gun with a coax 30mm

[fierce sparrow]

https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1536263332918861825

Oryx (@oryxspioenkop)

Tracked Boxer 🇩🇪 vs Tracked Stryker 🇺🇸

Likes

382

Twitter · Jun 13, 2022, 8:24 AM

[ivory ridge]

[zealous vine]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rl_ABjqjlsSSmT4e0h8zhfDoBr0kQvnEBEx6u-7DLjw/edit?usp=drivesdk I did ship tech trees for fun

Probably a lot of questionable stuff, especially in the French, and Italian column

And the British CAs.. CBs..

[remote monolith]

cursed_map.png

[fierce sparrow]

https://twitter.com/bttr01438851/status/1536329783298207745
https://twitter.com/bttr01438851/status/1536330334534610944

bttr (@bttr01438851)

@RheinmetallAG And here is the product page of the KF51; it includes a borchure describing the tank.

https://t.co/aP8gUxRPDJ

Twitter · Jun 13, 2022, 12:48 PM

bttr (@bttr01438851)

@RheinmetallAG The Panther can be configured like the EMBT to accept a fourth crew member, if desired by the customer.

Twitter · Jun 13, 2022, 12:51 PM

ok... both EMBT and KF51 Panther gets this odd crew config

So CnC General aged the best kind of wine...
Thx Crusader and Paladin tank

[manic latch]

Overlord>> those puny things

[fierce sparrow]

Overlord... still can't beat muh fav Apocalypse or Mammoth tank.

[delicate beacon]

Man the KPF51 looks like a PL-02.

[strong plank]

The panther sure seems…stylized

Top attack protection system and the capability to carry loitering munitions sounds interesting though

[fierce sparrow]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVIn1-aaQAkE4z7?format=jpg&name=large

specs

[manic latch]

Finally passing to autoloader instead reload slave pog

[digital mason]

I present to that idiot the Japanese hotels

[strong plank]

allied BBs were a waste of steel
certified Naval Battle of Guadalcanal moment™️

[somber knoll]

yes

[fierce sparrow]

[strong plank]

[maiden citrus]

haha

one of the most classic copes

[strong plank]

I can’t show any more of that chain due to mentions of [recent world event]

[maiden citrus]

oh, advanced cope

[digital mason]

cope and seethe

[remote monolith]

Cope harder than Edward Cope himself

[strong plank]

I do wonder with stuff like the lynx and now the panther, if the final version will be that stylized and angular, or if it’s just something they did to make the prototypes more eye-catching

[fierce sparrow]

looks is one thing, but the specs are configuration are abit weird.
Aside with 130mm smoothbore... its the other stuffs that bothered me abit.

If anything, KF51 is just remind me of a Chally 2 Streetfighter.
you know, the infamous Brimstone missile launch at the back of a turret

[remote monolith]

question, are the names of ancient big cats too much of a mouthful to be used as tank names

like, when do we get Panzerkampfwagen Homotherium

[fierce sparrow]

Smilodon sounds like a good name for a tank.
Surprised they didn't put that
okay... that or maybe Löwe or Jaguar

[manic latch]

I do have a question about lend lease however

Did British get more equipment than Soviets during the war?

[maiden citrus]

britain got the most lend lease, but passed along a large portion of it to the soviets

[manic latch]

[maiden citrus]

[tough quail]

yeah this is some stupid bullshit, the UK helped plenty

[maiden citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/golf-tom-hit-digging-dig-gif-15572096

[strong plank]

The doublethink in this thread is absolutely hilarious

[tough quail]

meanwhile that one is-3 that was definitely absolutely in sakhalin

rocked the japanese to the core

[maiden citrus]

this is as cursed as jaba quora time

[strong plank]

Dude this thread has been hilarious

[tough quail]

fwiw the manpower ratio isn't wrong

and the top of the line shit was getting sent to the east first

[strong plank]

“The soviets won because of communism!”
someone mentions Soviet atrocities
“Well actually the Soviet Union wasn’t communist!”

[tough quail]

but there were actually very competent units in the west

[rapid junco]

Yo

[maiden citrus]

and the bulk of the airforce by the landings in particular

[manic latch]

I always loved allies debate. Both side try to argue which side fucked the Germany harder

[rapid junco]

That Looks like Mr Harrison
But defending the USSR

[alpine onyx]

I mean, yes, because at one front there was combat nonstop while on the other the land combat was only about to begin

[strong plank]

The cherry on top

[maiden citrus]

careful, some germans argue germany fucked germany the hardest (true hitler fashion of shooting self)

[strong plank]

The cherry on top

[alpine onyx]

no surprise where you'd find more troops

[strong plank]

The one source he cites is an article he wrote

[maiden citrus]

source: myself

[tough quail]

the ratio remained that way for the duration of the war

[strong plank]

on a site labeled “defense of Marxism”

[tough quail]

they didnt suddenly all flood over to the west

[manic latch]

I don't think Soviet atrocities can be blamed as communism tho. Would things be different if Stalin was a Tsar instead

[tough quail]

it's just a spicy flavoring for your atrocities

autocracy is just gonna autocracy

[strong plank]

Russian history’s kinda fucked in terms of government tbh

[manic latch]

Blame Mongols

[strong plank]

one form of autocracy into the next, into the next, into the next

[manic latch]

Literally

[rapid junco]

Btw
We have those people here
"We shouldn't remember the FEB, since it was the soviets who won the war "

[manic latch]

Novgorod Republic is the closest pure Russian government you would get in history

Likely the reason why it's gone during 1400s tho

[maiden citrus]

the wrong has reached new levels

then again what could one expect from that username, handle and symbols

[strong plank]

he’s American too

[manic latch]

[maiden citrus]

who's source is; 'this one cringe blog I wrote'

[maiden citrus]

incredibly cursed

[manic latch]

Nah

Most wehrbs are also Americans I bet

[strong plank]

what was the term Stalin used to use again

useful idiot?

[manic latch]

Yes

But it's not confirmed

Just usually attributed to him

[alpine onyx]

Western Germany liked to use that term for his supporters

[manic latch]

To Lenin as well I think

[alpine onyx]

and the supporters for his successors, up until the 90s

[manic latch]

There is a counter term for that as well

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_of_the_people

Stalin used this the most

On 25 February 1956, Nikita Khrushchev delivered a speech to the Communist Party in which he identified Stalin as the author of the phrase and distanced himself from it, saying that it made debate impossible.
"This term automatically made it unnecessary that the ideological errors of a man or men engaged in a controversy be proven," Khrushchev said.

[somber knoll]

My brain cells

[maiden citrus]

1/4th of non light tanks at stalingrad were lend lease

[jovial elm]

Why do people criticize the chally 2's shells

She says it's the perfect size

[remote monolith]

the first part is blatantly false, although Glantz did argue that the Soviets does have a fair chance of coming out on top with or without Lend-lease, the difference is that he argued without Lend-lease the Soviets wouldn't win nearly as fast, or use deep battle doctrine as smoothly as it did IRL, and its wartime production would understandably dip heavily without external supplies to compensate for early losses

[jovial elm]

She says the Big ones hurt

[tough quail]

wasn't it not that lend lease didnt arrive but more that it couldn't really be delivered to the specific fronts before stalingrad was mostly handled

since it's coming in from the northern reach of the country

[strong plank]

I'd like to reiterate, this guy's an american

[tough quail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/983414272065421354/984056558294007818/caption.gif

man at least my arguments are at least sane when im off the mark

[maiden citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/my-reaction-to-that-information-gif-25844488

[strong plank]

i hate how I can almost hear that gif

[tough quail]

like there's a couple fair points mixed in with the most schizo madness

[maiden citrus]

The berci effect

[strong plank]

this thread has been a wild ride

bro this is on an oryx tweet about the new panther

I don't think I mentioned that

[manic latch]

Ye he says something true then goes exaggeration

[tough quail]

did the soviets produce the majority of their stuff? yeah sure. could they have produced enough by themselves to win without lend lease? proooooooobably imo? the diciest bit if the chemical facilities lost in ukraine. did they do the majority of the actual fighting in europe? absolutely undeniably

but uh lend lease kept the soviet union from actually turning into an enemy of the gates style miserable wasteland through the war, the US was pushing italy's shit in even before d-day, and the RAF especially was molesting germany from day one to the final day

[jovial elm]

Would Germany have ever been able to invade France without oil from a certain imperialist fascist power?

[tough quail]

which pretty much crippled their air efforts in the east because whoopsies

ding dong the luftwaffe is gone

[strong plank]

people like to think about ww2 in a very compartmentalized way

[manic latch]

P-39

[tough quail]

also yeah P-39s are the shit

[maiden citrus]

P39

[jovial elm]

Mid engined aircraft is bae

[maiden citrus]

Separated by opinions

[strong plank]

the british and americans fighting using exclusively their respective equipment, the soviets fighting alone in the east until the two fronts collided, etc

[maiden citrus]

United by p39

[jovial elm]

T34 is painfully over rated

[tough quail]

i think the like

[jovial elm]

It was far more expensive to produce than the Sherman

[maiden citrus]

Aren’t we forgetting someone?

Hm, if we forgot it wasn’t important

[jovial elm]

Who?

[maiden citrus]

-most powerful member of the axis-

[jovial elm]

Ah yes

Italy

[strong plank]

I tend to think of the T34 as one of those "right person/equipment at the right time" cases

[jovial elm]

Hungary with the turan

[maiden citrus]

Japan

[jovial elm]

How was it though?

[jovial elm]

Japanese painfully over hyped

[manic latch]

Look man. Did they won the Kursk, Moscow, Stalingrad, Berlin? Yes
So they were good enough

[strong plank]

wait wait the doublethink is back

[tough quail]

funniest way to point out how lopsided the like

[jovial elm]

Only because the soviets out produced the Germans.

[tough quail]

amount of fighting in europe is, imo

is that the top scoring ace to fly an american plane is a soviet

[manic latch]

Well you can make Soviets to turn T34 to Panther

But why cost Soviets victory with a worse tank for them now

[tough quail]

a P39, naturally

[jovial elm]

No no you misunderstand. I'm not saying that it is a bad individual tank. What I'm saying is that the concept of it being cheap to produce and effective is wrong.

It was actually an extremely expensive tank to produce. It was just built cheaply by cutting corners

Let me put it like this. A Sherman takes something like 25% less man hours to produce than a t34 if it were to follow spec

[manic latch]

[strong plank]

to be fair wasn't everyone flying the p39

[jovial elm]

Don't even get me started on the reliability issues of the t34

[manic latch]

No time to test reliability

[tough quail]

you probably shouldn't because you would uh

not have a good time with that argument

[manic latch]

[tough quail]

also i think the soviets ended up using P39s more extensively than even the US did

[jovial elm]

Bear in mind, the Russians literally add an entire state institution in creating propaganda for the t34

[maiden citrus]

They did

[tough quail]

it was way more up their alley as far as doctrinal use

the soviets love their lawnmowers

[manic latch]

Should have been for IL-2

Since you can't shame IL-2

[tough quail]

are we going schizo over the T-34 now

[strong plank]

until 2014 right?

[jovial elm]

IL2 was a bloody good aircraft

[maiden citrus]

On the flip side, more German aces died to the usaf iirc

[maiden citrus]

P39 is perfection

[manic latch]

Hunting B-17>> dying to Yak spam

[tough quail]

not trying to deny or undermine that claim but it just reminded me

i uh

really wonder what the actual, not-stupid list of german aces is

[maiden citrus]

Do we count the dude that died hitting a tree

[tough quail]

given i dont buy for a moment there's just like 954467387 luftwaffe pilots with 50+ confirmed kills without using a bunch of really stupid fucking criteria

[jovial elm]

I love how hardcore socialists conveniently forget the USSRs dealing with Nazi Germany

[tough quail]

unless the luftwaffe was actually just using typhoons thrown back in time

[tough quail]

and nobody noticed

[jovial elm]

Lol

[manic latch]

Ye British go broke but not because capitalism

[tough quail]

back aches from carrying two world wars

[jovial elm]

Britain was using typhoons in ww2.

Idk mudt be time travel

[strong plank]

britain looking at their navy postwar

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-woody-broken-dont-want-to-play-with-you-anymore-gif-12803884

[tough quail]

at least they kept vicky

the correct illustrious

[jovial elm]

The British govt consistantly goes out of its way to destroy its own industries

[tough quail]

it's the US-UK special

[jovial elm]

Mostly the uk

[tough quail]

the US does it a whole lot, too, it's just got a whole continent to work with

and the least drawn

everything is pain

[jovial elm]

Seriously, the scale of the uk govt killing its own industry is far beyond the usa

[manic latch]

Ww3 begins because Detroit wants to be cool again

[maiden citrus]

Robin my beloved

[tough quail]

oh yeah i remember when detroit invaded canada in that one david cage game

[jovial elm]

Britain is a glorified R&D hub because of the way the govt Handles industry

[manic latch]

A monument in Fairbanks, Alaska, to the American pilots who flew almost 8,000 U.S. planes to Alaska and to the Soviet pilots who flew them on to Siberia as part of Lend-Lease.

[tough quail]

dope

[jovial elm]

Sweet

[maiden citrus]

This time I don’t need a land bridge

[jovial elm]

Britain could have produced it's own mirage if it wasn't for how the British govt Handles everything

[tough quail]

[CURRENT CONFLICT] is boring, get hyped for Detroit vs toyota, volkswagen and all of canada

[strong plank]

wonder if the brits are gonna announce a next gen tank of their own to complete the trilogy

its funny how we get a next gen abrams announcement, followed by promos for the panther

[manic latch]

Chal 4. 2050

[tough quail]

they were kind of the first one to do it if you count the cr3, since that's a really major overhaul

complete gun and turret replacement and all

[jovial elm]

Lol, Britain can't produce an IFV.

Never mind a.mext gen tank

[strong plank]

it'll be interesting to see how they compare

[midnight ore]

How the f did that convo go there

[jovial elm]

I'm calling it now, the tempest will go over budget then be cancelled

[midnight ore]

Twitter tankies man

[tough quail]

circlejerking over germany in regards to [current conflict]

[strong plank]

well no it was like

[tough quail]

its not that much of a jump

[manic latch]

Chal 4 MK4
AbramsA2A3 Sep V6
T-90MSMSMUS
Leclerc XXXXXXL
Leopard 3 A-8++++

[jovial elm]

Germany have done nothing in the current conflict

They have "said" they'll do stuff but have done stuff.

They are also blocking the Spanish

[maiden citrus]

Untrue, they made bad decisions which is something

[strong plank]

it started like

[jovial elm]

Whcih bit is untrue?

[strong plank]

person A: hey maybe we shouldn't recycle the names of ww2 german tanks

person B: MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE SENDING WEAPONS TO [REDACTED]

[tough quail]

it's all of europe's duty to block spain from doing stuff

[jovial elm]

😆

[midnight ore]

They should send the spanish leopards to poland

[maiden citrus]

Doing something bad is still doing something, that’s the joke

[jovial elm]

Ah fairs

[manic latch]

couldn't send 100 Gepards because no ammo
Couldn't send 100 Leopard 1s because no clue
Couldn't send Marders because no clue
Did send 7 PHZ2000 out of 100 requested tho

[midnight ore]

And then have the poles send theirs

[strong plank]

polish military playing gotta-catch-em-all with military hardware

[tough quail]

go back to your room or we'll take your gibraltar privileges for an extra century

[jovial elm]

https://youtu.be/kXzSDIoSsT0

Did I send this one?

[strong plank]

he's still going

[midnight ore]

Anyway i think the new "panther" looks good

[strong plank]

mmyes

[manic latch]

Because it's German

[strong plank]

a minor $11 billion

[maiden citrus]

I mean he has his own fantasy world to create, that can take years

[midnight ore]

Though the barrel thing seems like weird "trying to look futuristic " thing

[tough quail]

it looks like a less goofy PL-01 as opposed to the supposed neo abrams looking like a more goofy PL-01

so good job

[manic latch]

Pl-01 syndrome

[midnight ore]

I think it doesnt look quite as ridicolous as the pl 01

But still

[tough quail]

yeah same

[midnight ore]

Looks silly

[tough quail]

it's like if the PL-01 was uh

[strong plank]

I feel like the next gen abrams pic is just the angle

[tough quail]

actually real

[tough quail]

there's a render of it up already

it uh

[jovial elm]

British

[tough quail]

looks dumber anywhere but from the front

[manic latch]

We don't even have A3 picture yet tho. Or A3 is called next gen Abrams?

[ivory ridge]

This is literally wrong

But sure

[tough quail]

[let me die]

[ivory ridge]

The only thing they didnt do is send heavy equipment

[jovial elm]

They have supplied Russia with oil money, my mistake

[ivory ridge]

Which is guess what

[tough quail]

y'all

not here

[ivory ridge]

The majority didnt

[tough quail]

it looks like some weird cyberpunk amphibious IFV with a K2 turret drawn from memory slapped on

[manic latch]

Vehicle talk not going to modern politics challenge

[tough quail]

and like

[jovial elm]

I've stopped myself

[manic latch]

[jovial elm]

Don't worry lol

I'm a good boy

[manic latch]

[tough quail]

a tiny grozovoi turret slapped on the back

for some reason

https://i.imgur.com/WzN22rr.png

am i the only one getting that vibe

[manic latch]

Have German 130mm shell picture by Turks instead

[jovial elm]

Britain had the chance to use the CV90 and chose to develope the ajax...

'nuf said

[strong plank]

[tough quail]

i mean to be fair the beaches were a soft spot

but thats just uh

because the nazis are fucking idiots

and just kinda went "eh actually competently defending is for assholes"

[manic latch]

Dunno man Roosevelt loved relations with Soviets. Don't think he hated them that much

[jovial elm]

No, some dead guy had some "sekrit dokumentz" onboard

[manic latch]

Muh mincemeat

[jovial elm]

With about the same reliability as the skrit documents wows uses for the Russian ship lines

[manic latch]

Smh

[maiden citrus]

ah yes I too remember when the us sat 1/3 of the war out by entering the war against germany/japan/italy 6 months after the ussr

and supporting the allies even prior to that

[manic latch]

Ok that's too far Jord. I can find those blueprints very easily. Just don't ask me about blueprints of GK or Hannover

[jovial elm]

But they didn't provide Nazi Germany with oil like the USSR did so they are the bad guys?

[maiden citrus]

'when it became clear the ussr would win' -dumps 500 billion dollars into them so they don't lose-

stalin begging for another front

[remote monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/bogdanoff-dump-it-stocks-crypto-gif-20477588

[manic latch]

wait that logic can be abused.

Since US supplied a country that was ally with Nazis. Thus US supports Nazis as well

[jovial elm]

Which one?

[manic latch]

Yes

[tough quail]

something something californian eugenics nonsense

[jovial elm]

I also love how american socialists seem to think that the USSR was egalitarian between the races

Completely dillusional

[manic latch]

On paper yes

Since you were just a Soviet

Not black white asian

[jovial elm]

True, but in practice...

[manic latch]

Just Soviet

[manic latch]

Yeah..

[jovial elm]

I really don't care about theory with soviets and Nazi Germany because they both spent their life dick waving

Looking at you "napkinwaffer/sekrit dokumentz"

[manic latch]

CIA files

[jovial elm]

Wut?

[manic latch]

M16 files

[jovial elm]

What?

Confused

[manic latch]

exactly

[tough quail]

alright we had a solid discussion for about half an hour

and now we're just getting into stupid bullshit

[jovial elm]

No, he means the rifle

[tough quail]

the rifles have eyes

[manic latch]

Rifle>> MLao16

[strong plank]

out of curiosity horse, where'd you find that abrams render?

[manic latch]

[tender monolith]

it was posted last night

some stuff on GD's website too i think? i was busy so

[strong plank]

yeah I've seen the official GD stuff

[jovial elm]

She is beautiful

[manic latch]

F104 wannabe

[jovial elm]

Clue is in the name

Delta wing

[tender monolith]

n e e d l e

[jovial elm]

Could supercruise in 1954

Had a nose that could lower like the concord

[tough quail]

r/wows server so im not sure of the proper source unfortunately

[manic latch]

https://tenor.com/view/mig21-mig-jet-backflip-post-stall-gif-23327084

[tender monolith]

gross

[strong plank]

asking bc I think I saw that yesterday on a twitter thread, but I think the context was rumored features

[tough quail]

i love that the funny top gun f-14 in ac7 can somehow do cobras now

[tender monolith]

also i didn't know that render was from the wows redit

[jovial elm]

Fairy delta 2 is unironically the biggest waste of potential in British aviation history

[tender monolith]

that saps it of 120% credibility

[tough quail]

it's from the discord, which has like

almost nobody from the actual reddit anymore

besides a couple of the mods

[strong plank]

[tough quail]

because all the goobers went to the official discord after it was made a bajillion years late

[manic latch]

Abrams fans malding when next gen tank replacement has autoloader

[jovial elm]

Russians trying to figure out who to do an autoloader that doesn't turn your turret into a rocket

[jovial elm]

This is just embarrassing

Japanese autoloader is frightening

[manic latch]

T95 black eagle

[jovial elm]

There is a photo of a Russian tank that looks suspiciously Iike that loating around

Can't remember name

[manic latch]

Oh there is shitton of prototypes

Most build during 1990s

What a timing tho

[jovial elm]

Prototypes are always being made

It is about ability to.produce

[tough quail]

poor soviet leclerc

[manic latch]

Exactly. Replacement for t72 and older would appear during 1990s if Soviets never fall

For 90s MBT projects

[shrewd pecan]

T-95 o boy

[jovial elm]

Nazis would have built a maus army if they hadn't fallen

[tough quail]

my guy

[shrewd pecan]

still trying to remember if that thing still had a hull ammo rack or not

[tough quail]

that's probably the dumbest argument you could've made

[tough quail]

did you miss the enormous bustle

[manic latch]

Nah. Hitler canceled heavy tank projects during 1941 I think.
Or 1942

[shrewd pecan]

doesn't mean it wouldn't have hull ammo storage

yeah it has the bustle autoloader

[tough quail]

well, obviously it would

like every other tank

[manic latch]

Type 10 also bust right

4 second reload

Or smh

[shrewd pecan]

Type 10 has the bustle rack autoloader

for a T-80 modernization I suppose black eagle would of been the way to go tho

[manic latch]

Yup

Hell would call it replacement even

[manic latch]

Object 906 is Soviet AMX then I guess

[tough quail]

it jsut tickles me the soviets had nearly the same idea as the french without knowing anything about legreg. outside of kgb shenanigans anyway

[manic latch]

Also bustle

[tough quail]

yuge autoloader bustle, kinda sorta cleft turret to separate the crew from the gun, funny gas turbine

[spring briar]

Ok wtf happened

[strong plank]

tonk

[shrewd pecan]

also why the hell does everyone keep calling the black eagle T-95

[tough quail]

because they call like thirty different things T-95

[shrewd pecan]

T-95 was what eventually came the T-14

[spring briar]

[shrewd pecan]

or well who's concept eventually became the T-14

[tough quail]

i miss you funny 30mm coax

[shrewd pecan]

coaxial 30

152 MM main gun

[manic latch]

Same reason why Armata turret is still large for 120mm

She can equip 152mm in future

Since well. Getting inspired from t95

[shrewd pecan]

assuming she has a future

[manic latch]

Likely not

It's up to funding

[shrewd pecan]

broke military + political unwillingness to adopt new designs that aren't evolutions of current platforms

[manic latch]

Dunno man I would consider Armata as new design over t90

[strong plank]

the more I stare at the render the more it looks like the bastard lovechild of an abrams and an armata

[spring briar]

@manic latch Russian capped 305 from Tsushima era (most expensive shell ever produced in russia relatively speaking)

[manic latch]

Ah the North Korean tank?

[shrewd pecan]

yeah therefor the political unwillingness to adopt new platforms that aren't evolutions of current platforms

[strong plank]

no the next gen abrams

[manic latch]

[shrewd pecan]

crewless turret abrams

what a shame

[manic latch]

Armata style based

[strong plank]

mf took his bustle, can't have shit in detroit

[spring briar]

Its the middle one krem

[manic latch]

[spring briar]

And it could defeat armata

[shrewd pecan]

no storage baskets

why live

[manic latch]

Tell me a tank that wouldn't get destroyed by 305mm

[tough quail]

anyway the 195 is lame and smelly

[spring briar]

Maus

[shrewd pecan]

the M1 combat car

[tough quail]

the real good soviet prototype turbo tonk is the 490A

[shrewd pecan]

name one defeated in combat

bet you can't

[manic latch]

only frontal plate maybe

[strong plank]

your mother

[tough quail]

also known as the super extra soviet leclerc

[spring briar]

The M in M1 stands for mid

[manic latch]

Leclerc best tank confirmed

[spring briar]

I was joking comrade

[strong plank]

wait the slopes are gone too

[delicate beacon]

Which M1?

[shrewd pecan]

uhhhhh

[strong plank]

why must they remove everything I love about the abrams

[delicate beacon]

The M1 Garand, M1 Carbine, M1 Helmet, M1 Landmine, M1 Abrams...

[tough quail]

l o w p r o f i l e

[manic latch]

Doesn't look destroyed to me

[spring briar]

What happen

Got stolen?

[manic latch]

It's written N on it

Is it Saudi?

[shrewd pecan]

UAE has sent Leclercs to Yemen

few been battle damaged

[manic latch]

Since I also saw Abrams with N written on them

[shrewd pecan]

few have been claimed to be captured

[manic latch]

Gotta be UAE ye

[strong plank]

anyway I wonder how overworked the average panther crewman is gonna be

[spring briar]

But no destroyed

Cope leopard 2

[shrewd pecan]

I mean if you shoot the Leclerc in relatively the same place in the hull as the leopard 2 its going up

[spring briar]

Challenger 2

[shrewd pecan]

hull ammo storage right in front of the frontal plate

[maiden citrus]

they'll unionize

[manic latch]

Yeah UAE use N letter for their tanks

[shrewd pecan]

I think that's just the Gulf State coalition friendly marker

[manic latch]

Oh

[spring briar]

M1 Abrams ugly

[shrewd pecan]

since that's the Saudi m1A2

[manic latch]

[shrewd pecan]

actually no that might be a M1A1

I don't see the CRT

[delicate beacon]

Reminder that Abrams is assymetrical

[spring briar]

Imma call it

M1 Abrahams

[shrewd pecan]

M1 Abraham Lincoln

[delicate beacon]

M1 Abra||kadabra||

[spring briar]

M1 Abraham Crijnsen

[shrewd pecan]

abrams getting replaced/major rebuild before Bradley

[manic latch]

@shrewd pecan So what cause Abrams turrets to fly

[spring briar]

Anyways please stop talking about tanks

They are weak

[shrewd pecan]

probably hitting the hull ammo rack

[spring briar]

Ships can destroy them in one hit

[tender monolith]

so what you're saying is

we need a BOLO to destroy ships with one hit

[shrewd pecan]

probably overpenetrated the hull ammo box

[manic latch]

So ammo inside hull= usually turret will fly

Got it

[strong plank]

I dunno why it took so long to click

but we got panther carrying its own loitering munitions

[shrewd pecan]

hull looks fucked so its probably not that one situation

where the IED was powerful enough to send the entire tank flying

causing the turret to fall off

[strong plank]

and then the next abrams being able to work with said munitions carried separately

[tough quail]

its almost like tanks dont like being penetrated, nuts

[shrewd pecan]

Switchblade carrier

[spring briar]

For Horse

[manic latch]

Like this one?

[strong plank]

hop on the switchblademobile

[manic latch]

Yeah it's gotta be IED

[tough quail]

finally, an oasis

[tough quail]

thank you friend

[strong plank]

drone fren

[shrewd pecan]

anyways now I post something obscure and French

and its IFV friend that doesn't look as nice

[tough quail]

oh so this is the weird occult bullshit the nazis were playing with

surprisingly practical

[spiral cedar]

"The USSR spent the first 1/3rd of the war on the sidelines, & the rest of it conquering Germany's empire for itself & hoping for the US & Japan to bleed one another dry.

When it became clear the US would win, the USSR led an invasion against soft spots in Japanese-occupied Asia while the bulk of the Japanese military was concentrated against the US Navy."

[spiral cedar]

summons panzer
with no spare parts or petrol

[tough quail]

okay less practical

[maiden citrus]

I summon obelisk the tormentor

[ivory ridge]

lmao

[ivory ridge]

trying to remember how this shit is called and found this article

[shrewd pecan]

Vextra

[ivory ridge]

wheels and gun = stryker

yas

[shrewd pecan]

http://www.military-today.com/artillery/vextra_105.htm

France had a Stryker MGS before America did

[ivory ridge]

it's so fucking obscure that the wikipedia page literally doesnt have any picture

jesus

[shrewd pecan]

AMX-10RC and Stryker MGS having completely different doctrinal roles

[ivory ridge]

this is the only picture in the vextra page

thanks i guess

[shrewd pecan]

only two prototypes built for a platform rejected by everyone

[ivory ridge]

LMAO i see the problem

[jovial elm]

The fairy delta 2 is hot

The fairy delta 1...

Not so much

[shrewd pecan]

shame honestly, Vextra 105 looked really nice

[somber knoll]

btw,

workers largely liberated themselves through commie partisan struggle.
there was this story of the Ducati brothers trying to smuggle both Italian labor and soldiers alike so that Krauts couldn't use them as expendable Volksturm by making them Ducati Radio factory workers.

My (non-existent) Ducati Monster is a commie machine confirmed.

[ivory ridge]

started being designed in 1991

[somber knoll]

(But damn it I wish I had one)

[ivory ridge]

gee i wonder what vehicle started being produced that year

https://twitter.com/CiroNappi6/status/1536351698305880064

Ciro Nappi (@CiroNappi6)

Centauro II MGS 8x8 tank destroyer at CIO (IVECO-OTO Melara) stand of #Eurosatory2022 exhibition in Paris.

Twitter · Jun 13, 2022, 2:16 PM

my beloved

[shrewd pecan]

gamer RGB Centauro

[frigid karma]

New panther looks interesting, it has a seat for an optional 4th crew member

[fierce sparrow]

I'm totally not convinced with the odd 4 crew layout(two in the turret, two in the hull).
130m smoothbore with an autoloader is fine at all but other features is just... wtf ?!?

...you know, the "other" features of the KF51

[shrewd pecan]

guessing 4th crewmember is a drone operator?

[midnight ore]

I think so

Dronebros

https://mobile.twitter.com/KampfmitKette/status/1536325915067695105

Kein Mensch Kein Tier (@KampfmitKette)

A closer look at the missile/UAV/loitering munition launcher on the Panther.

Likes

738

Twitter · Jun 13, 2022, 12:33 PM

[shrewd pecan]

Any reason to retain the 4th crew member I suppose

if you don’t need him just leave the 4th seat empty at that point

[strong plank]

drone operator or company commander

[shrewd pecan]

With the type of capability going into next gen tanks, especially data management I can see the use in maintaining the 4th crewmen beyond just maintenance reasoning

there’s other options for this of course, no reason why you can’t just offload drone duty and data management to support units

tho with the leaning towards giving frontline units reconnaissance drones along with other unmanned platforms I think the 4th dude is gonna remain necessary if you’re gonna down the route of data centric armored warfare

[strong plank]

it’s probably better to have the option for a 4th guy and not need it, than to need it and not have it

[ivory ridge]

cv90120 and Centauro 2 moment

[strong plank]

Are those orange cylinders smoke launchers?

they look so small

[shrewd pecan]

either sensors or APS

[ivory ridge]

it's smoke

[shrewd pecan]

how small are those smoke grenades Jesus

Suppose it could just be the camera angle

[midnight ore]

Well the turret is also pretty huge tbh

[ivory ridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/684721152739770371/985857419492065321/VID_20220613124113.mp4

[shrewd pecan]

Ariete modernization

[ivory ridge]

Nah it's not that

[shrewd pecan]

?

[ivory ridge]

It's a testbed for the centauro B2 turret and to show modularity

The AMV will keep the old turret

[shrewd pecan]

yeah that just clicked in my head that that’s the centauro turret

Now when do we get tracked centauro

[fierce sparrow]

Tracked Centauro..? ohdear

[ivory ridge]

A lot of rumours before this video were that the turret was either photoshopped or non functional

But well

Cuz these were the only "proof" we had before

[manic latch]

Are we sure KF51 will not stay as Technology demonstrator only?

Tho it's Rheinmetall. Some Europeans will likely buy it

[shrewd pecan]

depends if anyone needs a light tank

tho euro customer wise I don’t really see much point in it

[manic latch]

Muh 130mm

[shrewd pecan]

if you’re buying it for euro your better off just buying a actual MBT

[manic latch]

See I wonder. This turret has better technology than current beings. Can you slap it on Leo 2 hull

[fierce sparrow]

welp... atleast Poland gets the K2PLs
So thats the only good stuff in Eurosatory 2022.

poor Polish Logistical guys

[shrewd pecan]

market for light tanks is dominated by wheeled vehicles in Europe already

And there’s already a leopard 130 turret on the market

[manic latch]

There is?

[manic latch]

Yeah logistic guy has to handle the differences between Abrams and Leo 2 fuel consumption too

[shrewd pecan]

have the chally with it

[spring briar]

Get that out of here

[manic latch]

Did you guys even sold Chally to people

[strong plank]

the panther's not a demonstrator is it?

[manic latch]

Wait Tato ain't british

[strong plank]

thought they showed off a separate one

[shrewd pecan]

I’m American

[manic latch]

Close enough

[shrewd pecan]

And no one’s buying the 130

[spring briar]

Insert peen

[manic latch]

I really feel it is

Many new tech in single go

[shrewd pecan]

Polands been operating a mixed tank fleet for over a decade

[manic latch]

Melting pot of tanks

[shrewd pecan]

if they were having problems with juggling logistics for different vehicles they wouldn’t be procuring multiple tank platforms

[strong plank]

bc there's also the EMBT

[manic latch]

Have you ever experienced the time where you buy many books at once but turns out you forgot to read the old ones you bought before

[ivory ridge]

[fierce sparrow]

I really like the 2018 version EMBT.(the one with the Leclerc turret)
But this 2022 version raised me alot of ❓
the less said about the early EMBT concept, the better

[ivory ridge]

The 2018 was just an hybrid tho

[manic latch]

I want Abrams replacement to stay at same size but with how tech going it could be even lighter and smaller now

[shrewd pecan]

depends on how it goes

I doubt the US will stick with the crew less turret concept especially with the shit the army wants

[shrewd pecan]

how does that relate to military logistics

each Polish brigades logistics units are built to support their tanks

This isn’t BTGs where they’re dependent on support units not apart of the unit

couple with the fact the abrams runs on the same fuel as the rest of the Polish tank fleet

[manic latch]

You know what's the reason for multiple tanks still I wonder.

Never understood why Russia keeps 3 different models as well

[shrewd pecan]

logistics men used to having to refuel everything from rosomaks, BMP-1s and PT-91s somehow won’t be able to adjust to having to put in a few more gallons in a abrams

[fierce sparrow]

Leopard 2PL had its own problems... ohdear

which is when the Abrams comes along, then K2PL...

[shrewd pecan]

They’re operated in different regions of the country typically

T-80s are mainly a eastern thing

[manic latch]

Yeah I think T80 can't handle cold while T72 can

Or was it other way

[shrewd pecan]

Other way around

[manic latch]

Ah

[shrewd pecan]

T-80s are operated near China typically

while T-72 units are mostly in the west of Russia

[manic latch]

Why not cancel t72 for t90 now

[shrewd pecan]

because your army has thousands of newly modernized T-72s

[frigid karma]

They are kind of being cancelled

[shrewd pecan]

And thousand more T-72s to rebuild to new T-72 standards

[manic latch]

Ah the good ol B3M

[fierce sparrow]

T-72 "standards"
... ohdear, poor ol T-72s in the "storage"

seeing thouands of T-72s mothballed in a very sad state

[shrewd pecan]

T-72s in storage aren’t in operational condition but doesn’t mean you can’t rebuild the hulls to modern standard assuming they aren’t entirely rust

[manic latch]

It's still a T72. You can get that girl running after 100 years

[shrewd pecan]

you can’t

[manic latch]

You ruined my Mad Max dream Tato

[shrewd pecan]

a T-72 left to rust isn’t gonna much use unless you’re either cannibalizing it or rebuilding it

[fierce sparrow]

[shrewd pecan]

any tank left sitting for extended periods of time is gonna need work to get working again

[manic latch]

Law of Entropy

Smh

US also has 10k Abrams right

Do they maintain them all

[shrewd pecan]

yeah but the US has money to actually maintain them

and no

It’s closer to like 4K

[manic latch]

They still maintain M1A1s?

Oh

[shrewd pecan]

There’s about 4K in storage

1.7k in active service

[manic latch]

Less than I thought

[shrewd pecan]

There’s about 750 M1A1s still in service

idk quality of those 4k tanks is gonna vary obviously and are gonna need work to get back to being operational

[ivory ridge]

because the USSR could man all of them easily and still build more, so they could keep them, more than have to

Russia has to

because lmao building more

[shrewd pecan]

Tho they’re kept in actual good conditions for storage

and the army has the budget to actually maintain them

[manic latch]

Good times of 1980 when USSR had 50.000 tanks now its much much less than that

[maiden citrus]

a tank in the good maintenance is worth two in the trash, or so they say right

[ivory ridge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/684721152739770371/975769068244172850/unknown.gif

[fierce sparrow]

funny enough, T-34-85 are in excellent condition...
Then again, that's for the useless parade
while the T-72s didn't get the same treatment as the other ones

[shrewd pecan]

generally the storage fleet tanks get rebuilt to new standards anyways when they get reactivated or sold so

[manic latch]

Calling that parade useless is like calling fourth of July celebrations useless

[shrewd pecan]

We don’t have massive military parades

[strong plank]

Yeah we just shoot some fireworks into the air

[fierce sparrow]

Didn't the US Military show its military parade after Desert Storm?

[manic latch]

That's kinda shame ngl

[strong plank]

Maybe some smaller local gatherings

[frigid karma]

that was once

[shrewd pecan]

I mean that’s what they should be reserved for

National triumphs or victories

[strong plank]

Yeah the last time we had some sort of parade it was hell on the roads

[frigid karma]

Precisely

[shrewd pecan]

idk if you’re gonna win a war or put a man on mars or something you might as well have a military parade

[manic latch]

@fierce sparrow Also Yemen forces still use T34

[fierce sparrow]

welp its the Middle East...
Nothing out of the ordinary
Bringing old tanks into combat

[junior trench]

you'll note the gunner isn;t inside the T-34

[ivory ridge]

There is a reason big fuck off parade like those are synonym with uh... not the best of countries when it comes to like

Freedom

[junior trench]

because it could explode at any moment

[manic latch]

Hey at least it's not the cursed Sherman

[fierce sparrow]

sounds like a what artillery crews would do...

[junior trench]

from its own ammo being bodged together in a workshop

solid shot only

with small arms propellant

[fierce sparrow]

cursed Sherman???

Gods... what the actual HELL???

[junior trench]

that

[maiden citrus]

cursed tanks are my favorite

[junior trench]

*that's just a Sherman Kangaroo

[shrewd pecan]

turretless Sherman

That’s not really cursed

[manic latch]

Wait. That's fucking m50

[shrewd pecan]

That’s just reusing old hulls for new purposes

[manic latch]

My bad

It's the M50 Sherman

With machine gun turret

[shrewd pecan]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagmachon

idk if you want to go with cursed HIFVs

[manic latch]

Siege tower

[strong plank]

Is that a tiny casemate

[manic latch]

Matilda

Le truck camo

[fierce sparrow]

Don't worry, I'm not a tank.. just a silly looking lorry

[fierce sparrow]

[shrewd pecan]

The future of AFV design looks bleak indeed

[strong plank]

Lego AFV

[shrewd pecan]

god it has the Namer IFV turret

[spring briar]

Dumpster on wheels

[ivory ridge]

No that's the jaguar /s

[strong plank]

When you have a war to fight at 9 and an Amazon package to deliver by 10

[fierce sparrow]

[frigid karma]

IJA after they discovered the IJN scums is building pagoda on their Battleship so they come up with a brilliant contraption based on Chi-ha medium tank called the Chi-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha to show the superiority of the Army over the scums that was the Navy

[midnight ore]

we're at the "literally repost NCD" stage?

[desert agate]

no

qwerty is

but qwerty is special in the head

so we let him be

[junior trench]

it needs to go in descending order as you increase in height

have a 15cm AA gun on the bottom
then a 15cm howitzer

with a 12cm naval gun conversion on top
then a 12cm short

then a 10cm AT gun

then a 7.5cm gun

then a 5.7cm AT gun

then a 5.7cm short

then a 4.7cm AT

then a 3.7cm AT

then a 25mm auto

then a 20mm auto

then a 13.2mm HMG

then a 7.7mm MG

then a 6.5mm MG

[midnight ore]

ok we get it

[junior trench]

but do you really?

[spring briar]

Can we pretend that Belgians in the night sky are shooting SCAR’s

[midnight ore]

apparently there's a Leopard 2a7a1 in the Exhibition aswell

the one with the APS

[tough quail]

oh god please take it off the wedge leo 2s actually look good

they dont deserve this

[midnight ore]

this one seems to have a bit more stuff attached to the APS

towards the barrel

radar or sensor maybe?

[junior trench]

looks more like they stuck the softkill there

compare

[midnight ore]

yeah

there's a bit more there

[junior trench]

nah like

the thing marked countermeasure

looks like it got stuck to the front of the turret

rather than on the side

[midnight ore]

ohhh

[junior trench]

which is kind of galaxy brain

either that or they added an extra one

because the Leo 2's is way back there

[rapid junco]

Yesterday was the 79th anniversary of the sinking of USS R-12
In June 12th, 1943
USS R-12 was conducting a torpedo approach exercise off Key West (Florida).
As she completed preparations to dive, her forward battery compartment began to flood.
The crew tried to blow ballast, but she sank in about 15 seconds.
From the crew of 47, only 5 (the commander, one officer and 3 enlisted men) who were in the bridge managed to survive

[tough quail]

remember kids dont get on submarines

they arent fun

[spring briar]

Remember kids, never pull an Austria-Hungary

[rapid junco]

Julio Lima de Moura and Alberto Gonçalves Rosauro de Almeida:

Both were on the 42 casualties of that sub

[manic latch]

Shouldn't have go for Serbia

[spring briar]

Kick bulgaria

[strong plank]

Unless it’s a museum sub

they’re cool

[manic latch]

Get in submarine

Typhoon mommy

[desert agate]

I went on the Dutch museum sub today

Was the best sub I've ever been on

They left the periscopes fully functional

[manic latch]

How many subs you visited

[desert agate]

4

[manic latch]

Damn

[strong plank]

I spent a night on Torsk once

[rapid junco]

One day i'll visit Riachuelo
Our Oberon class one (not the confused with the Scorpene class)

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Ovens (Perth, my hometown) Onslow (Sydney), Le Redoubtable and nowTonjin

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Well
In fact Riachuelo is at the RJ's drydock now
So she can get an inspection and consequent repairs if needed

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it's been this way since february lmao

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I like that you can see Texel from the periscopes

Last time I visited there was the ex crewmember too.

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qwerty its mostly a you thing

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There's also a couple of Musea in A'dam and Rotterdam

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im fairly certain undie reposts from ncd more

but that may only be in EN-lore

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I liked messing with the filters and stuff

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View from the book depository

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THE DUTCH

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The Dutch have stolen my heart

I used to think the French had the coolest submarine museum

I have converted

To the light of "hehe flicky switch"

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@spring briar Have this

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Did you try and aim the periscope at the naval base?

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Deodoro at Toulon

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Also there's Abraham Crijnssen at the museum too

Such a cute little bushybush

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Oh yeah i know that one

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You guys are similar in some cases

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And i even told about it to a fellow friend whose name is Abraham

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Amazing

What’s the caliber?

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Of her main guns?
9" (240mm)

L/45

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They french guns?

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Plus 4x1 120mm/L50
6x1 57mm
4x1 47mm
And two submerged torpedo tubes

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Nope
Armstrong

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https://tenor.com/view/pingu-stare-noot-noot-shocked-gif-25726513

How could you…

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Well
i think the secondary are French
Probably Hotchkiss

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Gonna ask the Admiralty for that

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https://tenor.com/view/angry-pingu-mad-upset-stare-gif-17372840

Still angy

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Need to search to some ship that was built in France just like Deodoro
But that had French guns as well

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Capitan Prat

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From my country's navy that is

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Have Foch instead

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Prat!

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Prat was one of the names of USS Nashville during her service in Chile

Well
We're talking of another ship

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Sweet dreams Riche

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I am awake

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Look at the little one

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This one?

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Yes

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So?
Does it look like KC Akagi under a blanket?

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eVxn61oITmQ
@humble mulch

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Why can’t we have a cv named napoleon

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Too short runway

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Does kremlin unironically believe the short thing

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I've listened to this song to many times in my life as is

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Yes

Have another listen

And remember the 1916-1917 glory days

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Da heck.. I thought I deleted that?

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Things you believe about Soviets does feel like this