history

[manic latch]

Can put everything you want on it as long as it can carry the weight

You can design special turret for it or simple field mod

Like this

Or this

Or even a 100mm cannon

My favorite MTLB is the Sosna-U carrier

Designed to replaced Strela-10M

[steel rapids]

Wtf is that

[manic latch]

Anti air missile carrier

Like Strela

But better

[steel rapids]

Well its looks like a cursed version of bmp

[manic latch]

Weird eyes you have

Sosna-U looks like this on a BMP-3 hull

Honestly bit reminds me ADATS of US

No cannon however

[steel rapids]

Creativity never stops

[manic latch]

B-19 (weird name) is likely the most advanced BMP-3 modification

B-19 combat vehicle is equipped with an Epokha unmanned weapon station, which carries the 57mm automatic cannon and Kornet anti-tank guided missiles

Also contains these small missiles I forgot the names of

[steel rapids]

Sounds op

[manic latch]

But very expensive

OP things are expensive for Military

That's why you balance production numbers with the cost

[steel rapids]

Yes

Thats why America dont produce the B2 spirit anymore i think

Still use it but don't produce much

[manic latch]

End of Cold War

Cost cuts

Hit F-22 too

• F-22 was downgraded from her real planned features to save cost

Like loss of IRST device

Etc

[steel rapids]

Hm? What about f35

[manic latch]

Designed to replace mainly F-16 a light figter

So she is small

Likely the smallest Fifth gen

Having 1 engine also saves cost alot

But real expensive deal is the NGAD

Who is larger and will likely have 2 engines

Replacing F-22 and F-15 I guess

[manic latch]

• F-35 got cheap because of her very high sales. Since other nations wouldn't be able to afford their own Fifth gen projects

So they just bought it over

More you have something produced cheaper it gets

That won't apply to NGAD

So I expect her to be x3-x4 times more expensive than F-35

Which would result on less than 500 units in total likely

Tho better than 198 of F-22

[autumn sorrel]

Krem, photoshop doesn't count

[strong plank]

the F-35 isn't meant to be F-16's replacement

if it's replacing anything, it's the F-4 Phantom in the multirole do-all fighter role

[autumn sorrel]

F-35 is the replacement of Hellcat

[strong plank]

the f-16's an air superiority fighter that found itself pressed into other roles

the B-2 was already expensive because its complex design didn't translate well into mass-production

so when the cold war ended the number of airframes ordered was cut by 3/4

the F-22's numbers were cut during the mid 2000s when the US was diverting funds towards the war on terror

[strong plank]

the F-35 program had the benefit of hindsight from both previous programs and was always slated for mass production, given how many countries signed onto the program

that a new F-35 now costs less than a new F-15 is a testament to economies of scale and the efforts of the program office

B-21 is set to avoid the B-2's fate

[autumn sorrel]

Aren't those HE-FRAG for anti infantry?

[autumn sorrel]

When are US gonna sell them?

[strong plank]

B-21?

depends who's asking

the few countries the US would consider selling them to don't seem to be interested in buying

[autumn sorrel]

We need to give everyone a strategic airforce, it will boot up the sale of AA missile and radar

[strong plank]

there was some discussion about sales to Australia, but it seems the RAAF doesn't see the strategic bombing capability as being important enough to warrant the funding and resources (at the expense of others)

RAF similarly doesn't seem interested and probably wouldn't be willing to put down the money at the expense of other priorities

the list of countries the US would be willing to export it to, if they export it, is a very short list

[autumn sorrel]

If anything that Spoon complaining about, Aussie have a lot more issue with their military to fix

[strong plank]

they're in the same conundrum most militaries are in

money and manpower are finite resources

[autumn sorrel]

I don't see UK can scrap up anymore money for any program other than for their SSBN and Aircraft Carrier

Plus RAF also have trouble with recruiting last time I check, nobody want to volunteer anymore

[autumn sorrel]

Give them to Poland

[grave ravine]

F-35A was intended to be an F-16 replacement, as well as a handful of other planes

But delays and all mean that F-16s gonna be sticking around

[autumn sorrel]

And F-16 can still be sell to other country, I don't see the Plane disappear anytime soon

[strong plank]

Not a 1-1 replacement

[grave ravine]

It was actually originally supposed to be that

It's not happening now

But that was the plan

[strong plank]

JSF was an amalgamation of a number of combined requirements and programs

[grave ravine]

Note I specifically said F-35A

[strong plank]

Point is it’s not replacing F-16 1:1

[chilly osprey]

On B-21 - bluntly, maintaining a bomber fleet is an expense that almost no one other than the US or China can afford.

B-21 is probably not ever getting sold abroad.

[grave ravine]

Also F-16, unlike F-15, was always intended as a multirole fighter bomber

[strong plank]

or rather, the F-16 isn’t being replaced, it’s relinquishing it’s primary role in favor of other jobs

?

It was a lightweight, lower-cost complement to the F-15

[grave ravine]

Yes, but unlike F-15 ground strike was a requirement from the beginning for F-16

[desert agate]

there was the theoretical prospect for a B-21 sale to Australia but that was never really within our budgets

11 billion more for the navy starting today tho

which is cool

[manic latch]

You OK Lad?

[manic latch]

US 1-1 replacement doesn't go to plan usually

Except Carrier ones since duh

F-22 was supposed to replace F-15s

And F-35 as mentioned, supposed to replace F-16 fleet

Fifth gen is just too expensive to really pull such a thing

[autumn sorrel]

This one isn't but the 1st pic was

Wait a minute, why it still look photoshop

[manic latch]

Yeah you are going insane

[autumn sorrel]

I pretty sure this one is photoshop, the lighting is and the texture is all wrong

[manic latch]

"As conceived in the 1990s, the program was supposed to produce thousands of fighters to displace almost all of the existing tactical warplanes in the inventories of the Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps.

The Air Force alone wanted nearly 1,800 F-35s to replace aging F-16s and A-10s and constitute the low end of a low-high fighter mix, with 180 twin-engine F-22s making up the high end"

1800 F-35 for single air force (not including Navy and Army)

Yeah that was a good dream

Likely underestimated some cost aspect of it

[fierce sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Tw3Ufuom_Q

[steel rapids]

Its red dead all over again

[frozen kestrel]

Hey, fellas, how many links do you guys reckon Bismarck's anchor chain had?

Just like, a rough estimate

[strong plank]

I'll take 'quotes that aged poorly' for 400

[shrewd pecan]

swingfire funny moments

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1760059696407355707

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute) on X

#OTD 1942, Butch O'Hare became an ace when he shot down five bombers attacking USS Lexington. His father had been Al Capone's lawyer but was gunned down after helping prosecutors convict Scarface of tax evasion. Butch was KIA in 1943. O'Hare Airport is named in his honor.

Twitter · Feb 20, 2024, 9:51 PM

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1759990703868854470

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute) on X

#OTD in 1991, flight deck crewman John Bridges was sucked into the intake of an A-6E aboard USS Theodore Roosevelt. Incredibly, he survived because he became wedged in the engine. The flames were caused by his equipment getting stripped from his body and pulled through the jet.

Twitter · Feb 20, 2024, 5:17 PM

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1760013789427073222

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute) on X

#OTD in 1962, LtCol John Glenn orbited the earth three times. Glenn earned only $8 which included his basic pay and flight pay. The 5 hour flight was not long enough to earn a per diem. Plus he was not reimbursed for mileage because he flew a government vehicle.

Twitter · Feb 20, 2024, 6:49 PM

[frozen kestrel]

I just finished modelling a chain (one for Bismarck's anchor) in Blender, and I wanna know if the chain looks accurate

[strong plank]

A chain is a chain

[frozen kestrel]

Do these rotate, or no?

[wintry moat]

Probably, they are Range finders, no?

[frozen kestrel]

That's what the model name says, so I'm guessing so

[alpine onyx]

They rotate and tilt

3d stabilized

[manic latch]

They do

Soviets SPN-500 was inspired from it

Also 3d stab like German one

[unkempt sedge]

Shame this tech never continued. Though Volvo is still using it apparently.

https://youtu.be/gbMgwDIdScY?si=AkHIMljpZmdRYgRe

https://youtu.be/6bOxVuQmil0?si=EwrT-i3W_HMoh1Hf

https://youtu.be/9PbxmRA9vbs?si=gK-PedONs8D38kZS

[fierce sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_mbYD81D4g

[torn dome]

how many Leningrad-class DD do we have right now?

[ivory ridge]

1

Minsk

[torn dome]

5 more ships left for the Leningrad

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhKzn4ftOyU

[visual rover]

HNLMS De Zeven Provinciën (F-802)
De Zeven Provinciën class Air-Defence and Command Frigate (Modern Frigate) service by the Royal Netherlands Navy
https://youtu.be/zZhbvKZquWk?si=xgIclkVCFWcDE7m5

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjtQ4Jmxh_8

[tropic prism]

Something to note since the Catalina is already in the game but since the next event would probably be Northern Parliament since its pretty obvious but wouldn't it be needed to add this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beriev_Be-4

Under operational history, it states that it was used for anti-submarine warfare while also being used by cruisers, Maxim Gorki and Kirov

[manic latch]

Kursk is using her

It's on her art and skill move

[tropic prism]

Seeing this also reminds me of another thing, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_destroyer_Opytny

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1760447056814965204

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute) on X

Rather than the block letters used on most U.S. Navy ships, the name on the transom of the Spruance-class destroyer USS John Hancock (DD-981) was a facsimile of the statesman's famed signature.
#WarshipWednesday

Twitter · Feb 21, 2024, 11:31 PM

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1760340169360593062

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute) on X

#OTD in 1945, USS Saratoga (CV-3) was set ablaze after six Japanese planes scored five hits on the carrier within three minutes. 123 sailors were lost and another 192 wounded. 40 of the carrier's aircraft were destroyed. The crew got the fires under control and saved the ship.

Twitter · Feb 21, 2024, 4:26 PM

[remote monolith]

oh shit Cretaceous stegosaur https://www.sci.news/paleontology/yanbeilong-ultimus-12700.html

unsurprisingly, again from China

[eternal veldt]

@tough quail Not as bad side on, it seems

Turret front is still otherwise wackier.

[tough quail]

yeah the side profiles not bad thankfully

[eternal veldt]

Did some fooling around in Blender, it's the sweeping angle of the turret cheeks ruining it

Something something pure speculation, but it's the other explanation I could think of based on the few scarce photos available now

close enough, I guess

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjZ4AwzwtPo

[subtle prawn]

https://fxtwitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1760734431705485812

[runic ermine]

That's very cool

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yuMgG25VQM

[heady sail]

Kinda bummed out that they didn't put the the Campini Caproni N.1 in the lantern festival quiz.

(Yes, I know that the pilot never actually turned on the compressor, because he had fuel concerns, and so it was basically a ducted propellor, but still got the recognition, at time as the first jet aircraft, because the He 178 was kept secret.)

[subtle prawn]

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2024/02/italy-sets-out-future-mpa-capability-requirements-and-timeframes/

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJH1ymHQ2q4

[manic latch]

Americans will look at this image and just think HELL YEAH

[wintry moat]

Hell yeah

[tough quail]

good god that is the worst attempt at a flag livery i have ever seen

[fierce sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/68cLkl26DV8

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4H9_9AE4ak

[maiden citrus]

heck yeh

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1761077747017802080
https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1761077749517553983

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute) on X

Happy #NationalTootsieRollDay! During the Battle of Chosin Reservoir in 1950, U.S. Marines called for more "Tootsie Rolls" which was the code for 60mm mortar ammo. A radio operator was unfamiliar with the code, so the Marines instead received a large airdrop of the chewy candy.

Twitter · Feb 23, 2024, 5:17 PM

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute) on X

However, the Marines welcomed the Tootsie Rolls because the candy provided a much-need energy boost. They also found that Tootsie Rolls were useful for plugging bullet holes in their equipment. #NationalTootsieRollDay

Twitter · Feb 23, 2024, 5:17 PM

[subtle prawn]

https://fxtwitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1761059022503862680

[runic ermine]

True heroes

[steel rapids]

Ending that bloody battle for 1 island

[steel rapids]

Bro got premium skin

[junior trench]

That wasn't the end at all

Not even close

[runic ermine]

Still an offensive in Manchuria

[junior trench]

Non sequitur

[desert agate]

What in gods name are you talking about

[rapid junco]

What about this?

[desert agate]

vark my beloved

‘We did a 3 ship flyby before the 1990 Adelaide GP. After landing at Edinburgh we were choppered back to the track and went to the Fosters corporate box to watch the remainder of the race. We were then lucky enough to be invited into the McLaren pits to meet Ayrton. […] He was an aviation nut, so an invitation was offered to give him a ride the next day with our UK exchange pilot, who I think used to race in Europe. Ayrton was kind enough to invite us all to the McLaren party that night at the Hilton (I think). A great night was had by all, gee those F1 types know how to party!! A very eventful joyride was given the next day!!’

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1761245451850858898

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute) on X

#OTD in 1946, Gen. Tomoyuki Yamashita was executed for war atrocities committed by his troops in the occupied Philippines. His conviction set the precedent for command responsibility in which a commander can be held accountable before the law for crimes committed by subordinates.

Twitter · Feb 24, 2024, 4:23 AM

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1761218839759716783

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute) on X

#OTD in 1945, Sheriff Warren Hyde of Utah chased down a Japanese balloon bomb that then took him on a wild ride. He grabbed hold and rode the balloon for almost an hour as it dragged him through barbed wire and reached heights of 30 ft before he was able to tie it down. #balloon

Twitter · Feb 24, 2024, 2:37 AM

[steel rapids]

Nice

[fiery sable]

Poltava ship crew

Guess who is that? Kaga or Akagi or Amagi?

[alpine onyx]

I'd guess Akagi. Amagi is right out, she never got to that stage

Akagi's lower flight deck had a rounded tip, whereas Kaga's had a flat ending. This looks rounded, hence the guess

Also the belt shape, it's nothing like Kaga's

[manic latch]

Abrams for beginners

[runic ermine]

In terms of an engagement. The Soviets do an offensive in Manchuria

[solid mango]

Abrum

[autumn sorrel]

Lets not reignite that conversation, you already fail at it last time

[runic ermine]

I'm just saying it was going to happen

[shrewd pecan]

just needs CATTB in it

"Thicc abrum"

everytime I look up shit about this tank man

I learn something new

now I have to figure out what the fuck VIDS is on it

OH

IT HAS A RWR

laser warning receiver combined with a radar warning receiver that is uhhh

incredible

[fiery sable]

Soviet Navy legend Tashkent

The rise of Tashkent in 1944

[frozen kestrel]

Do you guys think these two things light up?

[steel rapids]

Do you have a t72b3 version of this?

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJyNk43xh9c

[ivory ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfdIdnTuo7w

[frozen kestrel]

Quick question because I forgot: The dark grey stripe is the waterline, right guys?

[wintry moat]

Yes

[desert agate]

they do not

the holes are for crew to put poles in to manually wind the anchors in the event of a mechanical failure

[frozen kestrel]

I meant the green and red stripe things, but I suppose those could just be painted on

[desert agate]

yes, i know what you're talking about

those are capstans

they do not light up

they are painted so the crew knows which anchor they are looking at

red = port green = starboard

[frozen kestrel]

Ah

[frozen kestrel]

The RAL color system is sending my friends and I into the five stages of grief, because apparently RAL #8013 doesn't fucking exist (According to the RAL database)

Is the red accurate or did I get it wrong? (This is Bismarck's bow)

[fiery sable]

Murmansk

https://tenor.com/view/seseren-gif-26518129

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1761523496926978460

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute) on X

In 1978, Phantoms from No. 892 Naval Air Squadron returned to HMS Ark Royal after being "zapped" during a visit to NAS Oceana in Virginia. The planes had been marked as belonging to the "Colonial Navy" with interwar U.S. insignia replacing Royal Navy roundels.
#SeaStorySaturday

Twitter · Feb 24, 2024, 10:48 PM

[manic latch]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M69_incendiary

Kind of a dark bomb

It was specially designed for civilian targets

"It was tested against typical German and Japanese residential structures at Japanese Village and German Village, constructed at Dugway Proving Ground, Utah, in 1943"

These bombs were very effective in setting fire to Japanese civilian structures in mass firebombing raids starting in February 1945 against Kobe

If nukes didn't existed, then likely these would be the main bombs to burn Japan down till surrender

[runic ermine]

Also the planned invasion. Operation Downfall
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Downfall

[manic latch]

Downfall on deez

[runic ermine]

https://youtu.be/xctI6-OWwGA?si=t0pZzmaKTInmXdqD

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1761759717171323263

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute) on X

#OTD 1933, USS Ranger was launched. Ranger was the first U.S. ship to be designed and built from the keel up as a carrier. She was one of only three U.S. carriers commissioned before 1941 to survive WWII. Deemed too slow for the Pacific Theater, she served mostly in the Atlantic.

Twitter · Feb 25, 2024, 2:27 PM

[narrow rover]

Those three funnels are weird

[steel rapids]

What started the development of Napalm

[steel rapids]

Great even more death and injured

[runic ermine]

https://youtube.com/shorts/-g0dJMftYcs?si=5JoVYcWdjmo0wGqc

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1761903979695403252

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute) on X

U.S. Naval Institute Archives Photo of the Week
 
60 years ago, Muhammad Ali became the world heavyweight champion.
 
Caption: Ali stands in front of an A-6E Intruder aircraft. (Credit: Official U.S. Navy Photograph).
 
Email us at [e-mail] for research assistance today!

Twitter · Feb 26, 2024, 12:00 AM

[desert agate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slWC58J_Ytk&ab_channel=ABCNews(Australia)

[runic ermine]

What are those?

[shrewd pecan]

A-50 AWACs aircraft

[manic latch]

A-50s from Soviet Era

Soviets began to take interest on Awacs in mid 80s

But collapse prevented chance of mass production of it

So less than 50 was build till 92

Well there was Tu-126 but only 12 existed

[ivory ridge]

https://twitter.com/NichoConcu/status/1762111607876792479?t=1kbgbddSVOgMjWwV7SYBKg&s=19

A-129 Mangusta (@NichoConcu) on X

Both Fenice prototypes flying side by side.
Photo creds @RID_Difesa

Twitter · Feb 26, 2024, 1:45 PM

Frens

https://youtu.be/sOt-SpA-TNw?si=lP29eHWEfLbsLl3B

[digital mantle]

What are ALL Light/Standard/Armored Aircraft Carriers, in-game, that would have historically had JU-87 D-4 (and its many variants) in their hangars/on their flight decks during and after WWII?

As many of y’all know how I can be a stickler for giving my ships load outs that align with their IRL counterparts and factions. I constructed the JU-87 D-4 in the gear lab and I wanted to know if there were other Shipgirls from a different faction (excluding METAs and collab-event ships) that Germany would have issued/gifted/loaned out their planes to—for a lack of a better term.

I know Graf Zeppelin, Peter Strasser, August von Parseval would be obvious candidates as well as Zeppy, Weser, Jade, and Elbe would have if they could use them if the game allowed it, but I wanted to consider other ships as well. I thought CVs/CVLs from Dragon Empry, Sardegna Empire, Northern Parliament, Vichya Dominion and even the Iris Libre would have had one, but I want expert opinions here rather than just assumptions or going about it “willy-nilly”.

[junior trench]

none of them

Ju 87 D-4 wasn't carrier capable

oh

nvm

looks like Germany was weird and didn't use T with any sort of consistency

and in that case

only Germany would use them

Japan has planes of significantly better performance

as does Italy

so does France even if we're assuming they're able to continue prewar projects

the Soviets have their own torpedo bomber conversion program as well

of debateably better performance

[manic latch]

There is also specially designed one as PT-1

How WG model it

[desert agate]

Germany had no capability, nor willingness to donate large numbers of aircraft to foreign states, particularly not their navies
Even those who could hypothetically operate them, had superior equipment already in service
the only nations that might have seen use out of a German torpedo bomber would have been Romania and Finland, and neither of those had carriers, restricting the plane to land based operations exclusively, and even Romania is a poor pick given the Stukas poor range compared to contemporary aircraft

[desert agate]

what Chinese carrier hypothetically existed to carry a Stuka conversion?
Same with Russia and France

Italy at least has carrier programs ongoing, even if those carriers were among the worst designs of their era

but again, Italy has their own aircraft, it has no need for a German conversion

[digital mantle]

I’m just trying to figure out what equipment to give my Shipgirls when the historically accurate equipment is not present in-game for one reason or another. For example, a lot of USS Langley’s planes are not available in-game, so I try to put T3/Rare-level planes in her load out or how there are not enough Iris Orthodoxy/Sardegna Empire planes that fill out their equipment slots so that they are all are given equipment belonging to their respective factions and countries of origin.
Another example would be Dragon Empry’s Hai Tien and Hai Chi, they don’t have their exact equipment in game which irritates me to no end. Some if not all of Dragon Empry’s ships borrow equipment from other factions like Royal Navy, Northern Parliament, Sakura Empire, and Iris Orthodoxy, but they don’t have their own equipment outside of the 9 that they have.

Seriously, where the heck do I even get the Aichi AB-3!?
Was that from an event? Is that just equipment for only mob ships of Ning Hai?

[desert agate]

id guess it was probably an event store item but i havent played in a while

[digital mantle]

Y’all get what I’m saying, right?
Like, I could care less about whether or not people would use the equipment or if they were any good, but still…

[desert agate]

China, Japan, the USSR, France, none of these countries would use any German planes on their carriers

German planes would make poor substitutes

imo your best substitutes for Italian planes would be Allied, F4F, F6F, etc, thanks to the 1943 Armastice signing over the Regia Marinas major ports, and effectively the entire fleet onto the Allied side

there is no historical substitute for Chinese planes because China had no carriers and until 1944 it was very difficult to get substantial supplies into China

the Soviets, again Allied planes through Lend Lease are your best bet

French planes should also be substituted as Allied, as when France was under German occupation, the French fleet was more or less disarmed, and the remains of the French fleet after Tuolon operated with the Allies

[manic latch]

Soviets would likely get F4U for carriers ye

Or F4F

Or F6F like France

[steel rapids]

Wtf how

[manic latch]

?

Its not Alien tech wtf

[steel rapids]

How the Soviet got that💀

[rapid junco]

Argentina operated F4Us on their carrier

We operated Avengers on a carrier

Albeit for training
We never catapulted them

[desert agate]

lend lease

[grave ravine]

The US was by far the largest exporter of aircraft in the world in the 30s and 40s

[desert agate]

i would note that the Soviets received spitfires, hurricanes, p-63s, and many more planes during the war

[steel rapids]

Well i know they got maltida, valentine, sherman, churchill and p63 but for some reason they have f4U

Oh and they have the American half track as well

[manic latch]

Bruh this is fake skin mod lmao

I used as AU example

Soviets didn't had F4U since they didn't need such plane

They had P39s instead mostly

They also had P47s but...i think They didn't like it

I don't know why

It stayed as background city Protector

[runic ermine]

I still find it funny that they barried planes in order to avoid paying for them

[manic latch]

Wouldn't say that

They used A-20s alot

It had kinda high losses

[runic ermine]

Mainly Hurricanes

[grave ravine]

Soviet evaluators had low speed maneuverability brain rot

[manic latch]

That explains

[steel rapids]

Fucking troll

[ornate wind]

*They had no need for a carrier-capable aircraft like the F4U because they had no carriers

[rapid junco]

He just did a bad choice of words
Don't think he had the intent of trolling, i guess

[ornate wind]

That being said, wouldn’t the more rugged carrier capable airframe and ability to take off of a short runway have been appreciated by the Soviet Union? The plane served pretty well for the marines after all

[grave ravine]

I mean they probably would have used F4U as a land based plane if given the chance, but the USMC had first dibs and I don't believe it was ever offered

And the Soviets were quite happy to just keep taking more P-63s

[steel rapids]

Its cheap Ivan lets just buy more

[unkempt sedge]

USSR didn't like the P-47's they got because they were made for high altitude fighting. Same goes for the Spitfires they recieved. They considered it a good plane, but not suited to their needs. All air to air combat on the eastern front was at low altitude hence P-39's did well their as that environment played to it's strengths.

Ironically the P-47 WAS designed by a Russian (white Russian).

[manic latch]

Uhh no

Wait

French*used F4U

But did they used on land or on carrier they later got

[grave ravine]

Carriers postwar

RNZAF got F4U solely for land based work during the war though

[unkempt sedge]

No way we would have given the USSR Corsairs, especially the F4U-4.

If anything they would have gotten Hellcat's or FM-2's.

[manic latch]

You give P-47 but not F4U?

Would be curious

[unkempt sedge]

The P-47's were suprisingly an exception. Domestic U.S. politics last I remember did prevent us from giving the latter model P-51's (C & D). I would assume the same for the latter model Corsairs (F4U-4 and the F4U-5, but I don't think the latter made it to mass production) to those "evil communists."

The reason being I think is (especially in the case of the F4U-5) was the advanced supercharging system it had ( Pratt & Whitney R-2800-32E).

Weirdly enough, the P-47's given to USSR had an advanced supercharging system of their own hence, why I was suprised we gave them to the USSR to begin with.

If USSR DID get Corsairs. They would be probably early "birdcage" versions or F4U-1A's.

[autumn sorrel]

High Altitude fighter while most aerial engagement in the Eastern Front are low altitude

[autumn sorrel]

LaGG, MiG and La can do it just fine

[autumn sorrel]

Imagine, Polikarpov leave Soviet Union before he got napped by Stalin. Soviet prob gonna have harder time to come up with an effective fighter desgin. Lavochkin prob can fill in the gap but I imagine Yakovlev gonna fuck Lavochkin over like how he fucked Polikarpov.

[unkempt sedge]

In the end MiG fucked Yakovlev over.

[autumn sorrel]

And had Polikarpov accepted Sikorski invitation, I can imagine US get some really good shit

[autumn sorrel]

Rightfully so, he is good aircraft designer but a shitty bootlicker

[steel rapids]

That's why Stuka is op

[autumn sorrel]

Are you intentionally being stupid?

[steel rapids]

Nope i just came to this conversation

[unkempt sedge]

Then Sukhoi came out of nowhere and fucked MiG. The rest is history.

IMO Yaks are overrated anyway. The La-5 and 7 were the best Soviet fighter of WW2.

[steel rapids]

I always miss the fun stuff

[autumn sorrel]

Well, you can't sleep on your laurel forever. I am still of opinion that Polikarpov is way obscure for how important he was for the Soviet aviation industry.

[autumn sorrel]

Lets face it, Yaks only got build bc Yakovlev suck Stalin ball so hard that he got priority on the production line and resource. Stalin suck shit when it come to military procurement. His only criteria is how much loyalty you show, not how competent you are.

[unkempt sedge]

Oh, I am not disagreeing with you. Polikarpov did play a VERY important development role for the Soviet Aviation industry. Same with Kalinin too.

The I-16 was one of the most innovative fighters when it came out.

[autumn sorrel]

Well, Soviet have a tendency to execute desginers for weapon failure, even if it isn't theirs fault.

Remind me that Soviet literally delay their research and development into recoilless rifle bc they executed all designers and engineers

[steel rapids]

Well atleast we know those things exist

[autumn sorrel]

Its wonder how they still manage to have a functional technology development system when you will get shot if your engine fail to start

[steel rapids]

Replace them with other, if the others failed push them to Gulag and replace another one until it success

[autumn sorrel]

Then what the point of innovation and pushing boundary when the smallest mistake will get you kill

Strange to think that Soviet either flip flop between kill people for the smallest mistake or developing an engine for nearly 40 yrs

[steel rapids]

[unkempt sedge]

I may have said that Yaks are ovrrated, but they were far from bad.

Heck one Yak-9 in Korea shot down an F-80C.

But, yeah Yakolev was a bootlicker for sure.

[steel rapids]

Skill issues

[autumn sorrel]

Early Yaks was meh, it was through constant combat exp and feedback that Yakovlev finally fix his shit together

[steel rapids]

Skill

[autumn sorrel]

Had it been Polikarpov then it only need months, hell, even weeks to fix

[unkempt sedge]

I would argue the MiG-3 was a better plane than the Yak-1.

[autumn sorrel]

Yak-1 is just a sporting plane that build for speed and happened to have gun on it. Impressive stat but in combat, meh

[manic latch]

I do think Stalin saw IL-2 as most important

[unkempt sedge]

That being said. The Brewster F3A Corsair quality control story would even make Yakolev blush.

You could not get worse than that.

[steel rapids]

A ground attack aircraft what do you expect

[heady sail]

The mig-3 had serious stability issues and a plethora of other problems if I remember correctly, tho.

[autumn sorrel]

I mean, it kinda is. CAS was the deciding factor in the Eastern Front when the weight of Soviet Artillery is insufficient

[manic latch]

Every aircraft can do ground attack tho. Problem of Soviets was they never get true air superiority

[unkempt sedge]

There is a reason I consider the il-2 to be the A-10 thunderbolt of it's time compared to the P-47.

[manic latch]

A-10 is more of Skyraider, after all she was kind of her replacement too

[steel rapids]

They have ground superiority but navy and air uhmm

[manic latch]

RN handled Navy anyway

[heady sail]

The A-10 is some useless reformer phantasy that somehow managed to materialize into reality and still refuses to die.

[manic latch]

Unless German ships can walk on land, they never posed big threat to Soviet Union

But kinda did to RN

[steel rapids]

But for some reason sailor were going to the battlefield on foot

[manic latch]

1. RN means Royal Navy
2. Because they were more important on battlefield

Unless Tirpitz decided to enter Leningrad by passing through minefield

[heady sail]

Eh, I would say that's mostly on the Soviet Navy being kinda inexistent.

[autumn sorrel]

Except IL-2 was able to hold itself if get into dogfight and are able to fly back to base after taking a beating

[heady sail]

Never going to happen, she was much more important as a fleet in being.

[manic latch]

Tho it's unknown if Leningrad would survive without the navy's aid. Or Sevastopol's defense without the navy

[manic latch]

Yup

[steel rapids]

Luckily the RN cover Leningrad's ass

[manic latch]

No it's actually German's fault. They mostly mined the Leningrad's entrance. Which in result they can't enter either

Tried the siege option

[heady sail]

Leningrad survived because they didn't siege the city properly and left some routes open. They kinda wanted to make the city surrender by starving them. They never really attempted any proper attacks that I know of.
They were really wicked.

[manic latch]

[steel rapids]

Cant believe that Leningrad hold out so long

[manic latch]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_of_Life

Lake being frozen was vital

[steel rapids]

I think there was a movie about this

I dont remember the name of it tho

[steel rapids]

In the movie instead of the lake frozen, the lake was normal the Soviet have to drive a ship while getting attack by bf109

[runic ermine]

Well it wasn't always frozen

[steel rapids]

Well yeah

I would want to watch that again

[grave ravine]

The Germans tried to cut the route across Lake Ladoga off, but they never managed.

[fierce sparrow]

https://vxtwitter.com/MilAvHistory/status/1762202129643569288

[heady sail]

Yeah, also the Regia Marina, together with the Finnish navy, operated in lake Ladoga.

[manic latch]

Don't show him B-36

https://tenor.com/view/buttons-alien-mad-angry-shouting-gif-15125878

[fierce sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/368244534578118658/1086722679190593758/BurningMurmory.gif

[unkempt sedge]

Have fun figuring that all out

A flight engineer is never without work.

Six turning, four burning

https://youtu.be/9FJVxtTNjJk?si=Nm7hD0jY2qBYOa5o

[steel rapids]

Also The Germans really wanted the Finnish to siege the city but the Fins refused so that's why it failed

[subtle prawn]

https://fxtwitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1762280807488422340

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1762295396963954915

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute) on X

After serving aboard USS Enterprise, Naval aviator ENS James H. Howard resigned his commission in 1941 to join the Flying Tigers, achieving ace status. When the group disbanded, he was commissioned a captain in the U.S. Army Air Forces and scored another six victories, making him…

Twitter · Feb 27, 2024, 1:55 AM

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haSW1VPFXaM

[desert agate]

ive been on both of those planes

only a single location in the world where both Concorde and TU-144 are on displayer, Sinnsheim in Germany

[thorny patio]

You know what would be cool? Adding SSN-571 Nautilus... The first nuclear powered sub.

I mean it would never, considering it was commissioned way after ww2, but it would be cool

[minor wadi]

Is this other she mentioned, HMS Victory?

[wintry moat]

Yes

[pallid grove]

I'm watching a video on one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard of: Rocketdyne Tripropellant-powered rockets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX-0Xw6kkrc It's a rocket developed during the 1960s that used a combination of liquid lithium, flouride, and hydrogen for fuel...

[fiery sable]

New Jersey shoot

[fiery sable]

King George V crashed into a destroyer.

battleship Ostfriesland

[solid mango]

Wot dis

[runic ermine]

Yes

[eternal veldt]

This likely also had to do with early translations.

As there is no way to distinct between Victory (noun) and Victorious (adjective) in Chinese independently without it sounding extremely clunky.

[frozen kestrel]

Just an entire fucken Honda dealership on the carrier deck, apparently

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aCmr_Jerjc

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1762535856491884627

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute) on X

It's International #PolarBearDay! In 2003, USS Connecticut (SSN-22) had partly surfaced in an ice pack when a polar bear began to lick the exposed rudder to determine if it was worth eating. The bear eventually decided he was not in the mood for a sub and wandered off.

Twitter · Feb 27, 2024, 5:51 PM

[frozen kestrel]

Found some footage of Nevada sinking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCgSLNNpiTY

[fierce sparrow]

https://twitter.com/ConeOfArc/status/1762601215710408934

ConeOfArc (@ConeOfArc) on X

Everybody gangster until the combat Beetle rolls up

Twitter · Feb 27, 2024, 10:10 PM

Berlin Brigade camo... On a Beetle...

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/368244534578118658/1086722679190593758/BurningMurmory.gif

[steel rapids]

Wtf is that thing

[desert agate]

Centaur, Perseus, and a number of others all commissioned post-war

[thorny patio]

So what your saying is... ussn571 nauti is possible?

[desert agate]

probably not but maybe

[subtle prawn]

You never know with them

[desert agate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODxoKrokpdk&ab_channel=AustralianMilitaryAviationHistory

@ivory ridge

[ivory ridge]

Plon

I forgot that Australia used them

I only ever remember Argentina cuz Falklands and South Africa because of the Impala

And Brazil cuz they had a lot

[desert agate]

theres a bunch of them on RAAF Pearce

as both gate guards and parade guards

I know the former pilot of A7-027

or well knew

i havent spoken to him in a number of years

[ivory ridge]

This is the one I've seen last summer in the open air museum in Rimini

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WGobyZVw58

[ivory ridge]

https://twitter.com/NichoConcu/status/1762846410343424448?t=zG1UVQwRONRvVufHSmph9w&s=19

A-129 Mangusta (@NichoConcu) on X

Sad news, Aircraft carrier C551 'Giuseppe Garibaldi' from the 1st of October 2024, will be taken out of service to be disarmed. It has been serving Italy since the 1980's and took part in Operation Enduring Freedom and also was present during the conflicts in Libya and Kosovo.

Twitter · Feb 28, 2024, 2:25 PM

[signal wave]

o7

[runic ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/darthvader-nooooo-funny-starwars-no-gif-4920019

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dK8EfQ4P6U

[manic latch]

https://www.flightglobal.com/helicopters/leonardo-plans-aw609-demonstrations-for-italian-military-and-government-agencies/157135.article

[regal musk]

Ok. Speculation time. This was taken aboard the KGV circa 1941- this is from a personal photograph collection. I speculate the plume is from the Bismarck during the battle of the Atlantic, but we really aren’t sure.

Photo is from a family member who served aboard the ship

[manic latch]

You have a family member who served on KGV and you are a Bismarck fan?

Interesting conundrum

[regal musk]

I’m really autistic about the bismarck

Idk its just really fascinating

Dont get me wrong KGV is too

[manic latch]

Nah don't worry

I am a Soyuz fanatic myself

[regal musk]

Hell yeah

I’m curious to see if anyone else thinks that this photo may depict the barrage against the bismarck too

or if it depicts any other battle KGV was involved in

[manic latch]

Hmm @alpine onyx

[earnest nimbus]

[regal musk]

My speculation comes from an area on the photo where along the waterline, it looks like there’s the camoflague of the bismarck

You’d have to zoom in a bit to see

Rambling over, Any input is welcome

[winged patrol]

ship position and wind direction cold fit for the battle against bismarck

[regal musk]

Big agree there

[winged patrol]

also the ship on the far right would be rodney

[regal musk]

Ye was about to say it was likely her

[winged patrol]

camo seems to match too

[regal musk]

Yee

Far left or right?

[winged patrol]

oh yeah right

[regal musk]

Ye

Idk if this is from the same battle, but you can see some artillery water pillars

Sorry for the weird angle

I can get better photos if i see my nan soon

[rapid junco]

We even donated some to Argentina during the Falklands war

[runic ermine]

Would it be weird if I said that I understand what you mean by that

[regal musk]

Nah not at all

[unkempt sedge]

One Typhoon is getting restored in Canada (RB396) and now we have a Hawker Tempest V restoration. Can't wait to see when it is finished. The best part is it will have a running Napier Sabre.

https://youtu.be/e-38hE3Yd_M?si=HUTOHw4tfo8NSsHN

https://youtu.be/LVm7jCRARD0?si=nGsBQM80-t_DWcl0

What it will probably sound like. (This is apparently a recording of Typhoons instead of Tempests.)
https://youtu.be/msd2wDiV7wU?si=_pFhKwxhro0yhp2Z

[runic ermine]

NIce

[unkempt sedge]

https://youtu.be/KrdfbrwcuM8?si=2e-SsM-LsDeLQ3uQ

[pallid grove]

Seeing the only numbers-matching Zero left in existence is quite an interesting experience; I recommend anyone with plans to visit SoCal and has an interest in historic aircraft try to make it to Planes of Fame air museum in Chino

[unkempt sedge]

Speaking of that Zero........

https://youtu.be/JoLK-I_paAo?si=iXtbfZMDXposffh6

https://youtu.be/S30Nn-mmyk0?si=0rYSDQyf-ywnKdPX

[pallid grove]

They also have an Ohka, Bf-109G and Suisei

[unkempt sedge]

The Suisei is the most interesting one. It's the latter D4Y3 with the Mitsubishi Kinsei 62 unlike the early models which used a lisenced V12 DB-601

Some rare footage of D4Y's except these are the earlier inline powered ones....

https://youtu.be/MaMEtNfunbo?si=h6yMkvKOYFkcCe5d

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1762951555907531144

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute) on X

The Daring-class destroyer HMS Dragon is the only Royal Navy ship to be adorned with a dragon on each side of her bow. The Welsh dragons were removed when the bow was repainted during a refit in 2011, but a campaign raised the funds to restore them in 2016.
#WarshipWednesday

Twitter · Feb 28, 2024, 9:22 PM

https://fxtwitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1762886144075702639

[desert agate]

given that battle with Bismarck was KGVs only major action of 1941, and the only action in which she fought alongside Rodney, I would say that it's more likely than not that the picture is of that battle

[regal musk]

I totally agree with that

[shrewd pecan]

love how it only has left channel audio

[frozen kestrel]

Quick question, how many bags of propellant does an Iowa use each time it fires one of its main guns? (One singular barrel)

[autumn sorrel]

I once saw a doc show they use 4-5 bag

[zealous vine]

I read about the object 775, and a source said that the driver was in a rotating cylinder to keep him parallel to the hull. I doubt such can be possible, but if anyone has a schematic, could you show me how it'd work?

[manic latch]

Same as MBT-70 i guess

How it works

[unkempt sedge]

https://youtu.be/e9QhH9P86rQ?si=xUpR0WGsto1EZewT

[fierce sparrow]

https://twitter.com/ron_eisele/status/1763212987010068719

Ron Eisele (@ron_eisele) on X

Victor

Twitter · Feb 29, 2024, 2:41 PM

[manic latch]

Victor

You have fatigue cracks on your frame Victor

I'm not going to use you for nuclear deterrent missions Victor

[ripe seal]

Guys, I have a school project very soon. Can someone chek my work on Gangut battleship?

It is in russian, but i can translate it if you wish.

[manic latch]

You feel like a person that already has great information on Gangut

[ripe seal]

So, do you want to see it?

[manic latch]

Why not

[ripe seal]

These are the illustrations.

And this is the project.

@manic latch What do you think?
Do you need help with translation?

[manic latch]

Nah

Are you fine with English sources?

I have few that you can use on this topic

[ripe seal]

Yep, I would be glad to use them.

[manic latch]

Send it to ya via dm

Anyway

Project 94

Likely precursorish of Chapayev class

9 152mm guns

[heady sail]

You can really see that it was based on the Montecuccoli.

[ripe seal]

😍

[unkempt sedge]

Nothing wrong with that. Soviet ships with Italian lines are 👌

[manic latch]

@tough quail @shrewd pecan Flight of Mig 1.44

[shrewd pecan]

the ugly mig

[heady sail]

Yeah, nothing wrong with that ofc.
Ansaldo engineers were really involved with the Soviet Navy.

[tough quail]

ugly

if there was ever a wrong opinion

[manic latch]

Kaganovich's Triple 180mm @tough quail

[tough quail]

I like the cute little fence between barrels

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShxsKwVclA4

[spring briar]

Soviet La Galissonniere

[zealous vine]

ooOOHH

I stupidly thought the driver was held in the same place in the whole tank and facing the hull direction.

And not rotating along with the turret but still facing the same way.

[spring briar]

@manic latch

[subtle prawn]

https://fxtwitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1763345894085145075

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1763253069872025621

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute) on X

Because they thought a "leap year boat" would be lucky, the skipper and crew of USS Cavalla (SS-244) successfully campaigned to have the submarine commissioned on 29 February 1944. On her first patrol, the Cavalla sank the Japanese aircraft carrier Shōkaku.
#LeapYearDay

Twitter · Feb 29, 2024, 5:21 PM

[desert agate]

flat fuck

[shrewd pecan]

US Army opfor training

[manic latch]

https://tenor.com/view/action-drama-show-me-your-war-face-yelling-training-gif-3298937

Warface scream is another example that we actually get from Apes

Tho we lost the more dangerous looking sharp and long canines

[steel rapids]

Bro totally losing his sanity

[fierce sparrow]

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ83P7W45eg

[manic latch]

Yooo @shrewd pecan

The Origins of Aegis: Eli T. Reich, Wayne Meyer, and the Creation of a Revolutionary Naval Weapons System https://a.co/d/hT5nEaX

Its gonna be out on May 15

[visual rover]

https://www.defensie.nl/actueel/nieuws/2024/03/01/nederlandse-industrie-nauw-betrokken-bij-miljardenproject-vervanging-lc-fregatten

[humble jewel]

Laffey decided to sleep mid-race

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n59SIJNaNao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u7GwX1PM1c

[manic latch]

Hey I read this before

[gloomy current]

@hybrid sparrow

earn your dough

[frozen kestrel]

Anyone got some images of a Polish radio from the 20s/30s?

[subtle prawn]

https://fxtwitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1763598742056313166

[raw anvil]

does anyone know what ships sailed with Grey Ghost at the start of the war in TF8?

cant find shit about it but I know that it was at least 1 destroyer and 1 atlanta class

[rapid junco]

https://youtu.be/eunZWytIVt4?si=jfxVBQsK4FOhSv4a

[raw anvil]

Aint one of the Kraut subs running a modified drone ?

its interesting how the concept has been played with in every era of sailing and flight

[naive crag]

(better list) Dec '41

[subtle prawn]

https://fxtwitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1763709988491477285

[signal wave]

Oh lord

[solid mango]

She eeby neeby sleeby

[humble jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-laffey-sleepy-gif-20102457

[fierce sparrow]

https://youtu.be/vJEBE1VXbP0?si=tCSXsvrEEvMWEngJ

[pallid grove]

Anyone know if the "experimental bomber" in D3 of the event is based on any IRL planes?

[raw anvil]

damn i was miles off, cheers bro

[raw anvil]

"satans kittens" what the fuck?

[narrow rover]

Why that's a cool name

[manic latch]

Man

I hate the name of armor so much

It's like a food or a cartoon character

CHOBHAM

[manic latch]

A pilot batch of T-34 tanks with spaced armour was due today in 1943. This armour completely protected against 75 mm HEAT and 50 mm APCR rounds, but by the time they reached the battlefield the primary German weapons were high velocity 75 and 88 mm guns.

[runic ermine]

If I named a battle in history does that officalily make me a Historian?

[manic latch]

No

You need master's degree in historian section

[steel rapids]

That looks like a t34E

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1764067316776440174

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute) on X

#OTD in 1991, four different generations of aircraft carriers from Battle Force Zulu steamed in formation after the cease-fire that ended Operation Desert Storm: USS Midway (CV-41), USS Ranger (CV-61), USS America (CV-66) and USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN-71).

Twitter · Mar 2, 2024, 11:16 PM

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1764085297153765501

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute) on X

#OTD in 1951, the U.S. Navy launched its first "hunter-killer" submarine USS K-1 (SSK-1) to counter the rapidly growing number of advanced Soviet subs. Jimmy Carter was a member of the crew. Later renamed USS Barracuda, the sub had a huge bow-mounted sonar array.

Twitter · Mar 3, 2024, 12:28 AM

[mental tapir]

Seems to look like the F7U Cutlass, maybe?

Also similar: de Havilland DH. 108 Swallow and Northrop X-4 Bantham

(tbh I'm going by the wiki page for tailless aircraft)

[fierce sparrow]

https://fxtwitter.com/FWD_Publishing/status/1763574415361520105
https://fxtwitter.com/FWD_Publishing/status/1763576219075854392

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnrPOAOTmMw

[pallid grove]

Thanks, looks like it's probably the F7U since it was used on the Lexington

[steel rapids]

Pure german engineer

[humble jewel]

aahhh yes... German abominations

[narrow rover]

Sussiest looking shit

[rapid junco]

Man, reminds me how the Oberons had a huge sonar on the bow as well

[subtle prawn]

https://fxtwitter.com/AirCrash_/status/1764218133047292263

[desert agate]

https://fxtwitter.com/TheBaseLeg/status/1764478549166047256

[fierce sparrow]

https://twitter.com/BlokeOnTheRange/status/1764211806904447163

Bloke on the Range (@BlokeOnTheRange) on X

With the help of this graphic, I will educate those across the pond as to how a STEN should be held... 😁

Twitter · Mar 3, 2024, 8:50 AM

[steel rapids]

Every fucking fps game hold it wrong except bf5 and enlisted

[runic ermine]

Only the Suppressed Sten is held by the magazine in enlisted in reference to commandos sometimes doing it

[steel rapids]

Bruh

[steel rapids]

Which campaign have that again? Tunisia or Pacific i forgot

[runic ermine]

SAS event squad

[runic ermine]

Also trees now

[runic ermine]

Sten Mk II

[runic ermine]

Sten Mk II (S)

[steel rapids]

Bruh

[humble jewel]

Capsized Amagi

[steel rapids]

Noooooo

[runic ermine]

Its historically accurate tho

[steel rapids]

But rarely having someone holding a Sten like that

[runic ermine]

It is rare

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1764495790360117436

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute) on X

#OTD in 1969, General Minoru Genda made a controversial appearance at a U.S. Naval Institute event. Genda, who had played a major role in planning the attack on Pearl Harbor, stated that the Japanese would have dropped the atomic bomb on the U.S. if they had it in 1945.

Twitter · Mar 4, 2024, 3:39 AM

[manic latch]

So the nation who was planning to use bio virus bombs on US cities would use nuclear bombs if they had it

Wooow

[frozen kestrel]

Talkin' mad shit for someone on the losing side

[maiden citrus]

whoda thunk

[unkempt sedge]

https://youtu.be/nOF4MMokuzM?si=HQDAd5U2Lz1bwRiv

[runic ermine]

Also the same nation that killed 30 million people and denied it

[frozen kestrel]

Just decided to do some research on Admrial Hipper and... oh...

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1764875679105962223

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute) on X

#OTD in 1942, Japan launched a second attack on Pearl Harbor. Codenamed Operation K, two Kawanishi H8K "Emily" flying boats attempted to disrupt repair and salvage operations by bombing Hawaii. The attack was unsuccessful, causing little damage and no casualties.

Twitter · Mar 5, 2024, 4:48 AM

[shy grail]

Unfortunate, but necessary, given what happened to Abokir, Cressy and Hogue in the WW1

[manic latch]

There were lot of cases warships being attacked while trying to help out sunken crew

Laconia incident is one for ww2 Germany

[narrow rover]

One sane commander thankfully told Ishii to suck it
I think Minoru here is more like: I would have done the same but without looking at the context I'm unsure

[narrow rover]

Not sure if it's adequate to call it a maritime 'disaster'
More like combat loss
Deaths exceeding 7000 from one boat isn't exactly rare in WW2

In postwar China there were likely ones in excess of 9000 from one ship that are more fitting of the term 'disaster' but sadly no one ever bothered to write those down in detail.

[manic latch]

Sinking of Armenia is also called Disaster tho. It killed 5k-7k
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_hospital_ship_Armenia

[narrow rover]

That also happened.

Really you're not supposed to shoot those but good luck telling the Germans or Soviets or Japanese that

[manic latch]

Ummm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Awa_Maru

US and RF also sank hospital ships

[narrow rover]

Well, hard to see from above innit?
Hard to compare those two. The US and Allies at least adhered to the laws of war, meanwhile the Germans had rules of their own (the Führer had just signed the commisar order) and the Japanese just didn't care.

[manic latch]

Above? Nah Maru was sunk by submarine lol

USS Queenfish

Royal Navy mostly sink it by planes tho true

Usually Italian

[shy grail]

The British and Americans (mostly British) managed to damage every single Italian Hospital ship, and sunk like half of them

Most tragicomedic is right after the Battle of Cape Matapan, where the RN signals to the RM to go pick up their survivors, because the RN less than 2 weeks before that had just sunk the hospital ship Po, so the Italians would naturally be suspicious about picking up survivors in case another one of their hospital ships got sunk again

[desert agate]

speaking of hospital ships, the IJN Submarine I-177 sank the AHS Centaur in May of 1943 killing nearly 300 personnel off the coast of Queensland while she was en route to Papua New Guinea
The captain of the I-777 would face 8 years imprisonment after the Tokyo trials

[desert agate]

the majority of Japanese hospital ships did not sail in accordance with red cross guidelines, leading to multiple cases of accidental sinkings of hospital ships and notably the Awa Maru was carrying considerable contraband, making her a legitimate target

I'd also note that Queenfish's commander was court martialled for sinking the Awa Maru, no Japanese commander was tried by their own government for sinking a hospital ship

[thorny patio]

Not a naval history joke but it's funny if you understand the context

XD

[narrow rover]

How many people did the Toyko Trials actually try BTW?

[narrow rover]

I mean if they cared enough to try their own commanders basically everyone in the China front would have been put in Jail
Though just how much of that brutality was actually ordered by a higher up is disputed.

[desert agate]

26 defendents
Nakagawa was tried in the Nagasaki trials which tried lesser war criminals, I got the two trials mixed up

[manic latch]

@tough quail ATOM IFV with 57mm gun
It was a collab vehicle between Russia and France, established on the basis of the French Véhicule blindé de combat d'infanterie (VBCI) IFV

[runic ermine]

seems in character

Also Hipper in game does call her original commander an idiot

[manic latch]

He valued her safety

[alpine onyx]

To not use a high value ship (late war heavy cruisers were considered high value) to pick up survivors with an acute submarine threat in the area is cruel, but sensible

Had they stopped and picked up survivors, and the submarine would sink a torpedo into Hipper as a follow up strike, the commander might as well throw himself into the boiler because he'll be done for

and nowadays we'd ask ourselves how someone could be so careless to throw his ship and crew away like that

[manic latch]

I think there should be a regulation for warships doing reduce too

Or should have been

Flag half raised, Guns at max elevation, all spotlights open

Which would mean "I'm doing rescue operation"

But you are at full mercy on your enemy

[alpine onyx]

after the Laconia incident...

unlikely Hipper would've stopped

[manic latch]

Naturally

I wouldn't stop if i was on Soyuz either

Hell I wouldn't want for Soyuz to stop to save me if it would mean she would be in danger

[fierce sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szYi__o7ST8

[narrow rover]

If I'm a Russian battleship trying to fight the Germans I'd stay in port as much as possible.

[manic latch]

Why

Gangut classes fought to their best

Main danger came from sky as seen by Marat (Or most BBs), but that didn't stopped her

She continued firing

[autumn sorrel]

57mm is such a beautiful caliber

[junior trench]

cope caliber

[manic latch]

https://www.twz.com/28310/need-a-50mm-cannon-for-your-bradley-fighting-vehicle-replacement-design-just-ask-the-army

Honestly 57 sounds cooler than 50

But 50 is cool still

[autumn sorrel]

40mm Bofors > 50mm

[narrow rover]

Exactly why I'd be staying in port at least until the army has the upper hand. The Germans are going to 'marat' the Soyuz if it somehow existed before 1941.

[manic latch]

Oh yeah that's the good part of it

Enemy is in your bombardment range while being in port

So easier repairs or resupply and sinking doesn't result in a loss because ports aren't deep

You know how Yamato tried to pull something similar by ramming into an island

[subtle prawn]

https://fxtwitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1765066814340661438

[subtle prawn]

https://fxtwitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1765118019141853566

[subtle prawn]

https://fxtwitter.com/OnDisasters/status/1764805076399366619
https://fxtwitter.com/OnDisasters/status/1764435369582362880

[narrow rover]

I'm more surprised anyone survived that

[eternal veldt]

The main issue of staying in port is that you are using naval control over your trading and supply routes on the sea.

The role of the battleship is to safeguard or to contest it - granted the enemy has air superiority.

Otherwise you end up with only a fleet-in-being that ends up being slowly choked to death - as in the case of Tirpitz.

[rapid junco]

I think i get it kek
Even though the Peninsular War isn't my strong point, but it is a point interest since it is Iberian history anyways

[thorny patio]

"the idiot who ruined an empire"

[rapid junco]

But i know who the guy is
Ferdinand VII, right?

[thorny patio]

Yep

El jackal

[rapid junco]

John VI got more lucky and went out of Portugal after that

[thorny patio]

Well John wasn't a total despot either XD

total be the operative word here

Napoleon said of Ferdinand that it would have been better to keep him on the throne in hindsight

[rapid junco]

I only went to study Peninsular War because its what kind of kickstarted the independence movements in Latin America
Being from a LATAM country myself

[thorny patio]

El Ray Felon seems to be the black sheep of the bourbons in Spain

Fun fact, Bolivar had met Ferdinand

Did not go well

XD

[rapid junco]

Well
You know our first emperor was the son of John VI?
And John VI was married with Ferndinand's sister

[thorny patio]

Yeah carlota joaquina

Who seems to be a bit of a conniver

[thorny patio]

Idea for next ghost ship waifu

XD

[wintry moat]

I can hear the song already

[raw rain]

She looks like she's good at doing splits

[visual rover]

Goalkeeper 30mm CIWS (Close in weapon system) from Netherlands🇳🇱
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goalkeeper_CIWS

[fierce sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/368244534578118658/1086722679190593758/BurningMurmory.gif

[ivory ridge]

Not as cursed a the UAE platform

Which can also be armed with the same bmp turret

The only version i somewhat like

[median osprey]

https://youtu.be/k-5eW_setbw?si=s0INOm52IdjAq-Qv

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ9p2fGKTs4

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU9vl7pZeWA

[manic latch]

@tough quail Tupolev

[tough quail]

thats where you're wrong boyo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bofors_57_mm_gun

i guess the us just wanted to have a slightly smaller gun again like the og bradley

[tough quail]

yaes

[manic latch]

Plot twist

US army is scared of Navy's calibers

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/T249_Vigilante

replacing 40mm Bofors

Army: Hmmms I choose 37mm

[tough quail]

i can almost believe that

[manic latch]

Abrams on her way to get 4 different armor upgrades with every variant

[manic latch]

Tashkent

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFeb6MvTd_Y

[subtle prawn]

https://fxtwitter.com/LockheedMartin/status/1765445563774795807

[shy grail]

The blade are going to hit each other in resting position lmao

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1765418237389414608

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute) on X

#OTD in 1944, Willy Hitler joined the fight against his uncle Adolf by enlisting in the U.S. Navy. Initially rejected, he received permission to serve after writing to FDR and getting cleared by the FBI. He later changed his name and lived quietly in NY until his death in 1987.

Twitter · Mar 6, 2024, 4:44 PM

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1765451219869261923

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute) on X

It's #NationalDentistDay. When Hideki Tojo was imprisoned in Occupied Japan, a Navy dentist fitted him for dentures into which "Remember Pearl Harbor" had been drilled in Morse code. When news of the prank got out, the dentist quickly removed the message to avoid a court-martial.

Twitter · Mar 6, 2024, 6:55 PM

[fierce sparrow]

[steel rapids]

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1765545266638168497

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute) on X

Opportunities to cruise aboard a battleship are rare, so two tickets to ride the museum ship USS New Jersey from Paulsboro to a dry dock at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard on March 27 are being auctioned on eBay. Bidding has already reached $4,150.
#WarshipWednesday

Twitter · Mar 7, 2024, 1:09 AM

[fierce sparrow]

https://fxtwitter.com/RyszardJonski/status/1765285069902491751

[somber knoll]

is this for her upcoming repair voyage?

[subtle prawn]

Yes

https://www.battleshipnewjersey.org/event/cruise-aboard-the-battleship-new-jersey-as-she-enters-dry-dock/

[fierce sparrow]

thx... Fallout 4

[subtle prawn]

https://fxtwitter.com/Picofguns/status/1755335211334746175

[runic ermine]

I just died inside

[frozen kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-gun-gif-27116588

[fierce sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37yx-CZ7bEo

[autumn sorrel]

It is a Luger, it deserve it

[frozen kestrel]

Quick question: If I'm navigating the Bundesarchiv, where should I look for things like turret designs?

[alpine onyx]

RM 24 Marinewaffenamt

Rarely you will find a turret under the individual ship's blueprints (like the turret armor of the Scharnhorst class), but most of the time it's under rm 24

[frozen kestrel]

Thanks. I actually do need to find Scharnhorst and Gneisenau's, but after I find Admiral Hippers turret

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1765575705394290836

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute) on X

#OTD in 1836, Davy Crockett died at the Alamo. His descendant Lt. Davy Crockett was a U.S. Navy Hellcat pilot during WWII. After being shot down and captured in France in 1944, Crockett was taken to Toulon where the German commander surrendered the arsenal and 500 men to him.

Twitter · Mar 7, 2024, 3:10 AM

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1765772877683446089

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute) on X

#OTD in 1778, Captain John Barry led 27 men in row boats to capture two British supply ships and an armed schooner in the Delaware River. The Americans also took 116 prisoners. Barry sent a captured jar of pickled oysters and a large wheel of cheese to George Washington.

Twitter · Mar 7, 2024, 4:13 PM

[rapid junco]

I thought Hellcats were flown mostly and almost only in the Pacific

@spring briar Brazilian Military Mission in France

[spring briar]

What year?

[rapid junco]

1918

Unfortunately i wasn't able to identify everyone in there
Apart from like 3 guys
I know the whole 24 members of that mission are there (and i know their names, but not their faces)
Including the commander, General Napoleão Felipe Aché

But i should point out to a certain Major in there
Major Firmino Antonio Borba

He's the grandfather of Carlos Borba
Which was a Navy WWII veteran
And the son of Firmino, Antonio Bonifácio (father of Carlos)
Is a veteran of both World wars
Having served in the Medical Mission during WWI
And being appointed commander of the FEB's Health Battalion

So its a whole line of fighters eh

[spring briar]

If you got any brazilian ship pics make sure to share

[rapid junco]

I think i have from Rio Branco iirc

Don't know if that would interest ya

[maiden citrus]

Pretty cute

[rapid junco]

A former ship of the Canadian Customs Preventive Services named "Margareth"
Which was requisitioned by RCAN during WWI

And returned to the Customs in 1919
In 1932 she was bought by Paulista Rebels and renamed Ruth
Captured by Governmental forces and renamed "Rio Branco"

[spring briar]

Got smth for you
Interesting brazilian navy artillery lore

[rapid junco]

Served as a hydrographic survey vessel until 1942
When with Brazil's entry in WWII, she was converted to an ASW corvette (that first pic is her during Wartime)
Returning to hydrographic services in 1949
Until she was retired in 1957

[rapid junco]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-happy-excited-hitori-bocchi-no-marumaru-seikatsu-hitori-bocchi-gif-14397692

[spring briar]

Also that fucking name

[frozen kestrel]

I could not find the turret designs

[spring briar]

Duarte Huet De Bacellar Pinto Guedes

[rapid junco]

Kek

[spring briar]

What a baller name

[rapid junco]

This one is just long
Garcia D´Avila Pires de Carvalho e Albuquerque

[spring briar]

Cool names

[rapid junco]

This guy

Last commander of Bahia
On that very day...

[subtle prawn]

https://fxtwitter.com/OnDisasters/status/1765880636810625442

[desert agate]

i remember this search vividly

it was coordinated out of RAAF Pearce which isn't far from where I live

RAAF Pearce is a very busy base, but March 2014 was something else entirely

[shy grail]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/08/mh370-australia-search-support-10-year-anniversary-malaysia-airlines-flight Australia trying to help again apparently

[narrow rover]

They found a lost ship from like 1910 during the 1st search

[humble jewel]

https://twitter.com/COMUKCSG/status/1764696249612083592?t=_U974SYxfvFO8g3PCX-AsQ&s=19

UK Carrier Strike Group (@COMUKCSG) on X

An awe-inspiring Arctic scene for the #SteadfastDefender24 Carrier Strike Group.

Whilst continuing with @NATO exercises in the High North, our ships were treated to some incredible displays of the aurora borealis.

For many onboard, a once-in-a-lifetime moment.

#NorthernLights

Twitter · Mar 4, 2024, 4:55 PM

Wish I could see some ngl. Photographer's dream

[steel rapids]

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4aX3bwwPHc

[subtle prawn]

https://fxtwitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1766176119600906689

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua3z73uko_A

[tropic prism]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UBS_Mayu We need more museum ships in the game

[rapid junco]

Ada Rogato with her Focke Wulf Fw44
Happy International Women's Day

[signal wave]

What a goofy setup

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1766276870239084549

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute) on X

#OTD in 1944, Japanese forces assaulted U.S. airfields during the Bougainville counterattack. This TBF Avenger took nearly 400 shrapnel hits but was patched up and ready to fly the next day. The counterattack was ultimately repulsed by Allied forces.

Twitter · Mar 9, 2024, 1:36 AM

[solid mango]

"Eh just tape it"

[frozen kestrel]

So, I've decided that, just for shits and giggles, I'm going to design my own Royal Navy battleship (Late 80's period, because of story reasons). Since the story takes place in the eighties, what sort of armaments, radars, and other equipment would likely be added to it?

[heavy bay]

with what money

[frozen kestrel]

Well, it's fictional, so I don't really have to worry about money. Just keeping it... accurate, I guess is the word.

[heavy bay]

By battleship, do you mean heavily armored capital ship, or just a large capital ship in general? By the 1980s, the many industries required to build a heavily armored battleship from scratch are pretty much gone

[frozen kestrel]

What shipbuilders were even left by then?

[narrow rover]

None

[heavy bay]

The UK still had military shipyards, but warship armor and battleship cannon manufacturing are really specialized (and expensive) industries that no one really maintained after navies stopped building battleships after ww2

[frozen kestrel]

well fuck...

guess I'll just, not do that then...

Looks like this little side project's just going to be a pain in my ass.

[heavy bay]

You could just make it an AU, ig. Maybe the brits had a bit more money than irl and were able to keep a fast battleship or two around, and then gave it an Iowa ish refit in the 80s or something

[frozen kestrel]

Well, it is sort of an AU, since in that universe, there's a sixth member of the King George V-class (aaaaand it's the only one that got preserved...)

[shy grail]

Lmao I've never seen this poster

Looks pretty old actually, 1985?

[subtle prawn]

Would be a better idea to just make it either Vanguard, a Lion-class, or a post-war design battleship since a ship that has seen intense usage in WW2 with more worn out equipment would be more expensive to maintain as opposed to a new build battleship

[narrow rover]

There are ways
Composites

Or just
5 RHA plates welded togeter

Are they good? Hell no.

[fickle coral]

The devs made a mistake regarding the Colossus class (Perseus and Theseus). In-game they have medium armor like the heavy cruisers whereas it should be light. Wikipedia mentions Colossus class was unarmored

[alpine onyx]

The armor designations are arbitrary, so not really a mistake if they never tried being accurate

[shy grail]

Like how all battleship have heavy armour, when the Gangut class have much less armour than HMS Hood

Only battlecruiser with heavy armour is Prinz Rupprecht, because she is a WoWs ship with a 15 in belt

[alpine onyx]

Aegir with heavy armor while Scharnhorst has medium armor

[shy grail]

Yeah lmao

[alpine onyx]

Because 180 > 320mm

[shy grail]

Actually nvm all the German WW1 battlecruiser designs have heavy armour for some reason

And Brunhilde as well, despite err... 7.5 in belt armour?

[manic latch]

Historical actually

Germans preferred armor in ww1

So it's heavy related to time

[maiden citrus]

sturdily built with good subdivision etc too compared to their opponents of british bcs

german bcs just unironically had better hulls in general

[manic latch]

British losing 3 BC with 0 armor

[shy grail]

Only 2 of them tbh

Queen Mary would be fine if not for Beatty shenanigens

[maiden citrus]

iirc german bc hulls on average were lighter than british bc hulls despite having better ruggidness

[shy grail]

Except for hull form efficiency, yeah

British design are faster for a certain engine power on similar displacement

Tiger is pretty good already, then G3 is a massive upgrade

[maiden citrus]

I still don't think g3 would have made paper speeds based on size and engine power

[shy grail]

Also small tube boilers are a thing

[maiden citrus]

had a discussion about that once here at some point

[shy grail]

So more optimal speed lmao

Transorm hull form has different power to speed curve just saying

[maiden citrus]

g3 has single digit feet of hull form size difference to iowa and wants to go 32 knots on

uh

50,000 less horsepower

20 years earlier

very x to doubt

probably end up like QE and not hit paper speed

[shy grail]

Because Germans shell were infinitely superior mainly, so the Germans armoured their ships as if the enemies had the same quality of shell

[shy grail]

Iowa is very unoptimised

[maiden citrus]

for speed?

uh

[shy grail]

KGV is faster than North Carolina with paravenes out despite having 10k less SHP

Iowa even more so due to Panama canal restricting her hull form efficiency

HMS Vanguard gets 31.5 kts on 136000 SHP

[maiden citrus]

speed difference between kgv and nc is minimal, and their dimensions are larger between those two than iowa and g3

[shy grail]

Should be looking at that instead

Also transorm stern design as well

[maiden citrus]

vanguard only hit above 31 knots at higher than regular engine power and probably typical british testing parameters

[shy grail]

6000 SHP only

3000 ton difference but 25 k more horsepower

[maiden citrus]

(and commisioned after both these ships, point being g3 wants to hit iowa speed with minimal hull differences 20 years earlier)

[shy grail]

Vanguard design is from 1939 bruh, same design time as Iowa

And small tube boiler is still underestimated at the time

[shy grail]

Iowa stern nowhere near as transorm as G3, and higher block coefficient

[maiden citrus]

original design maybe, but was still receiving building revisions into the time iowas were already sailing around doing trials

engine tech in the 1910s and even 1920s time period was just pretty eh, fast designs tended to sacrifice a lot to get there

[shy grail]

Her hull form didn't change

[narrow rover]

Iowa is probably the best battleship ever constructed

Performance wise

Only thing comparable is Yammy

[spring briar]

Have a Richie

[maiden citrus]

it is friend

[shy grail]

Vanguard for systems, Yamato for armament

[spring briar]

Vanguard yeah right

[maiden citrus]

many of vanguard's design choices didn't work properly even in peace time

yamato technically loses to iowa in a shootout in facehard parsings (let alone in aa or secondary departments)

[shy grail]

Fire control system, AA system (literally Mk 37)

[maiden citrus]

vanguard was the first british bb to approach us fcs yeah

[narrow rover]

Systems wise VG is the last battleship ever built so of course she is comparable

[spring briar]

JB has newer systems

[narrow rover]

We never got to see the ultimate BB showdown :(((((((

[maiden citrus]

she's doing her bartest

[narrow rover]

Iowa vs Yammy 1v1

Never got to see it

[shy grail]

Later yeah, Vanguard covers the 10 year gap between them

[shy grail]

Halsey why

Did Jean Bart fix the DP 6 in issues?

[narrow rover]

If only the US gave Nagato to the USSR

[maiden citrus]

iirc no and some were replaced with 3.9'' mounts

[frozen kestrel]

I feel like Nagato would've been even worse off with the Soviets

[shy grail]

Well talking about 1955 of course

[spring briar]

No

No need for it

[shy grail]

Still there in 1955

[spring briar]

Nor money tbh

[shy grail]

Ah rip

[spring briar]

Mainly focussed on AA, mgfc and radars

And bulges

[shy grail]

Imagine the TDS after bulging, had the best TDS already

[narrow rover]

And the US really hated the Soviets at that point for causing a mess in Manchuria

[spring briar]

Yeah after bulging it was rather spectacularly thick

[maiden citrus]

yeah my mistake I'm remembering construction

[spring briar]

Look at her

Many hotdog consumed

[maiden citrus]

in original design I believe she had even more

[shy grail]

8 m + wow

[maiden citrus]

thicc

[spring briar]

Jean Bart retro/deux should have juicy thighs

[maiden citrus]

true

[shy grail]

Also got the hull spike thing

[narrow rover]

Ironically Yammy probably has the worst TD per displacement

[maiden citrus]

probably

[shy grail]

100% void lmao

[narrow rover]

Weight saving brain rot design

Lmao

[shy grail]

Counterflooding IIRC actually

[shy grail]

But what if you have no TDS, is it infinite or nil

[maiden citrus]

depends, world of warships physics or real life

lol

[spring briar]

Maka ❤️

Thx

[maiden citrus]

a beautiful bote 4 u

[spring briar]

I will post Idaho for you

[maiden citrus]

fancy

[spring briar]

My favourite

Standard

[maiden citrus]

[spring briar]

Shes so nice

[shy grail]

Algerie

[spring briar]

I have a soft spot for all the modernized standards

Omg algerie

[maiden citrus]

I like em chunky

[shy grail]

Hefty 5.5 in deck as well

[spring briar]

Yeah

Real nice

We love em thick decks

FranAm decks

[maiden citrus]

what a cutie

[spring briar]

Love our DD swarms

[solid mango]

DD videos!

So much sploinky

[spring briar]

[wintry moat]

The standards have a certain granduer to them

[runic ermine]

Which destoryer is that

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/pinstripedline/status/1766234062820094111

Sir Humphrey (@pinstripedline) on X

The Battleship Texas foundation posted this magnificent shot on social media of the Texas this week, hours before she was put back in the water. Over 100 years on, she still looks the part!

Twitter · Mar 8, 2024, 10:46 PM

[spring briar]

Sabretache

[manic latch]

22x2 37mm V-11
8x4 45mm SM-20
6x2 100mm SM-5-1

But she wouldn't made it past to 60s

Khrushchev BB hater

[manic latch]

Best summary, for example his opinion on Sverdlovs