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shut wren
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Lets end this discussion here

strong plank
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Also caught a brief glimpse at a railway gun

shut wren
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where tf did they take yall

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Area 51 or someshit?

ivory ridge
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he literally said where they went NERD

shut wren
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I see

strong plank
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Fort Lee is where a lot of stuff from Aberdeen, Picatinny, and Redstone was moved to

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It was cool seeing how maintenance personnel are trained

shrewd pecan
shut wren
orchid notch
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AH-1z

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I think

shrewd pecan
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Super cobra

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oh

shrewd pecan
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Not the viper

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AH-1W

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whats the difference

orchid notch
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Oh yeah the viper is white

strong plank
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Stryker mortar carriers

orchid notch
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That’s cool

shut wren
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Some cool shit

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Time to steal it

orchid notch
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Never seen a Stryker in real life

shrewd pecan
orchid notch
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WTF

shut wren
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Never realized the apache was wide

orchid notch
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I’m confused

strong plank
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That’s not an Apache

orchid notch
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What is the difference

spiral cedar
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Not all attack helos are Apaches

strong plank
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Apache is a specific attack helicopter

orchid notch
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From the Ah-1z and the ah-1W

shrewd pecan
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Main visual difference is the gunners FLIR

strong plank
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The Apache is the AH-64

spiral cedar
shrewd pecan
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We should all be in awe of that man

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True goals

strong plank
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Weakest air crewman in the corps

shrewd pecan
shut wren
orchid notch
shrewd pecan
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Apaches a big girl

orchid notch
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Yeah

shrewd pecan
lavish fable
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Longer too and carries a 30mm? Iirc on the nose over a 20mm gatling

orchid notch
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Jewish AH-64

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And cobra

shrewd pecan
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Cobra has the 20 MM while the Apache is rocking the 30 MM

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Army also actually has the budget to smack longbow radars on their helicopters

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so added F&F capability with the radar guided hellfires

lavish fable
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AGM 114s yeah?

shrewd pecan
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yeah, earlier apaches alongside the viper are stuck with the laser guided ones

ivory ridge
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talking about helos

shrewd pecan
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While the AH-64D and beyond can use the radar guided versions as long as they have the longbow radar mounted

lavish fable
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Ah that's neat

ivory ridge
tough quail
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friend

shrewd pecan
shut wren
ivory ridge
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rumours are that the AW249 will be called "Fenice"

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but we still arent sure

shrewd pecan
strong plank
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The Comanche looks a little goofy

spiral cedar
strong plank
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Got some JLTV pics

tough quail
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its incredibly goofy

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but funny

lavish fable
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I mean it'll hopefully be better than the hmmwv

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Because we all know that thing is amazing

shut wren
strong plank
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It’s more a replacement for the MRAP than for the humvee

strong plank
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It’ll probably eventually phase it out

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But for now that’s how the army sees it

strong plank
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I asked if they had any MGS but they’ve already handed them off to another unit

manic latch
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Wait

strong plank
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not yet

manic latch
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Oh long progress

strong plank
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It’ll most likely phase out the humvee eventually

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But they’re expensive and the army’s prioritizing which units they give them to

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So rn they’re more of an MRAP replacement

lavish fable
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Ah... I thought the JLTVs were going the replace the humvees... but as you said they're more for MRAP replacement

frigid karma
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So

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When we getting drones from C-130s

shut wren
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Soon™️

strong plank
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Didn’t see any Bradleys or Abrams which is a little sad

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there was one out front tho

lavish fable
ivory ridge
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it means Phoenix

strong plank
manic latch
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Told you

tough quail
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can you put phoenixes on it

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either the f-14 or the kornet type

manic latch
tough quail
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preferably both

lavish fable
shut wren
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Yall know how AIM-9s are AAMs

manic latch
strong plank
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Got some other photos of humvees and opened-up JLTVs

shut wren
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is it possible to strap em to a ground launcher and yeet it at planes

tough quail
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i want to die

strong plank
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The maintenance bays were huge

tough quail
shut wren
ivory ridge
strong plank
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Something something manpads alignment chart

tough quail
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goofy iris-t truck

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or the MICA one

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think the frenchies are the top of the food chain atm

shut wren
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Alright what if we strap a SAM on to a plane and shoot at shit it with

tough quail
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that's called a fighter jet

strong plank
ivory ridge
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what

shut wren
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Would it be better

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cuz like

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bigger range and boom

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or some shit

ivory ridge
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they

tough quail
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they have the same missiles usually

ivory ridge
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use the same missile

shut wren
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oh

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ok

tough quail
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unless you want to strap like

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fucking stingers under a jet

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in which case i want to beat you to death

ivory ridge
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MICA is used on the rafales and mirages

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IRIS-T is used on the typhoon

tough quail
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i guess there was the funny of the soviets wanting to strap like

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full ass SA-6s to mig-23s for a minute

chilly osprey
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And then the British CAMM is also basically an upgraded ASRAAM

shrewd pecan
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Navy did test throwing ERAM on a super hornet

tough quail
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but it just sounds like you're trying to make the worlds dumbest f-14

chilly osprey
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Or you have, as an older example, Sea Sparrow and air-launched Sparrow, and Aspide did the same thing

strong plank
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What was that one aircraft with the comically overkill weapons bay?

chilly osprey
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Short-range SAMs also being used as AAMs is very common (or, really, it's very common for AAMs to be developed into SAMs).

tough quail
shut wren
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What if

tough quail
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here we go

strong plank
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Like it had launchers in the doors

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I want to say 1950s

shut wren
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we shove Fighter Jets inside VLS and those ICBM tubes

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but like

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make the VLS big asf

strong plank
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It was an early US jet

ivory ridge
shrewd pecan
tough quail
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a drone is fine

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on a full ass fighter i want die

shut wren
shrewd pecan
tough quail
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me

manic latch
shut wren
ivory ridge
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RATO but more extreme

tough quail
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vls t-54s when

shut wren
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What if

shrewd pecan
tough quail
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a pox upon you

ivory ridge
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Begone Mike sparks

manic latch
tough quail
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i will personally destroy your crops

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that said i kinda wanna fill this out now

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hmm

shrewd pecan
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They see peak performance and they want it to be destroyed

shut wren
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We put a ICBM launch tube with the missile inside

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we strap it on to a C-130

shrewd pecan
shut wren
shrewd pecan
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Your gone kid your gone, UN world police are gonna get you now

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Anywho actual history related pic

shrewd pecan
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Still crazy to me that Long Beach was made around the same time as the Cleveland and Baltimore retrofits

shut wren
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What if

tough quail
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here we go

shut wren
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we use one of those space shuttle boosters or the Liquid fuel orange tank as bombs

lavish fable
strong plank
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God what was this aircraft called

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I am going insane

strong plank
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It was some 50s/60s aircraft that had rockets incorporated into the weapons bay doors

shrewd pecan
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Wasn’t that the English electric lightening

shut wren
lavish fable
shut wren
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What if

shut wren
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We put a space shuttle fully loaded with fuel

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Strap it on a bomber

tough quail
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long boye

shut wren
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And we launch it at a ship as a weapon

manic latch
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What if I launch you into moon

shut wren
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What if I send you back to gulag

tough quail
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just learn how thermobarics work like a normal person

shut wren
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I’m not normal

strong plank
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God I cannot find this shit I know it was posted on warplaneporn

manic latch
strong plank
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I don’t know all I saw was the weapons bay

manic latch
strong plank
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That’s the bitch

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Yes

ivory ridge
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bruh

frigid karma
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Why are there so many A-10s, tato

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Ah I see

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We should give away our entire a-10 fleet to Israel

shut wren
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Great for commiting warcrimes!

frigid karma
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killing civilians isn’t a downside for this particular client

tough quail
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or better yet, friendly fire

shut wren
frigid karma
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That Palestinian child throwing rocks at the tank

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That poses a lethal threat to A-10s

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Rank I Palestine SPAA too op

shut wren
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💀

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Man can sink ships by throwing rocks at em

tough quail
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true

shut wren
frigid karma
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Uptier Palestinian boy to Rank VII please

orchid notch
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No Rank VIII

shut wren
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Please No Im already being shitted on enough by Mig-29s and F-16s

frigid karma
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Speaking of top tier

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What was all that fuss over pantsir?

shut wren
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Multi Lock

frigid karma
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I heard the cone was way too big

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Oh multi lock

orchid notch
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18km range

shut wren
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and Thats all I know

orchid notch
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With 32G overload

shut wren
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Nice to know we getting something nice

frigid karma
jagged monolith
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pantsir had poor product reviews

shut wren
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CAS mfs finally meeting their match

orchid notch
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It also can shoot its missiles on the move

shut wren
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Snail Logic:Lets make a OP tree even More OP

jagged monolith
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2/5 vulnerable to electronic attack -Libya

orchid notch
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Also the F-16 and Mig-29 are getting better flight models

shut wren
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Please put all the 4th gens and the Tomcat in different matches bruh

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and the F-16 mfs

orchid notch
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Yeah it’s annoying fighting them

shut wren
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What do you mean

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you are the F-16

orchid notch
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Not when I’m grinding Russia

tough quail
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the pantsir is hilarious from top to bottom pretty much

shut wren
shrewd pecan
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still surprised the tomcats 11.7

orchid notch
shrewd pecan
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truly my greatest fighter

tough quail
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especially given there's like

shut wren
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you are about to suffer

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alot

tough quail
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maybe two SPAAs that can top it in the world atm

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not sure why they added that so early

shrewd pecan
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the multitrack thing just seems

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not too useful for jets

shut wren
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Im scared what the F-14 late would look like

orchid notch
tough quail
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it's just another bonus

shut wren
shrewd pecan
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its aspect doesn't seem too good

shut wren
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I forgot you had that

shrewd pecan
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for anti helicopter

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oh its gonna own

orchid notch
tough quail
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its going to out perform basically anything

shut wren
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I play it alot

tough quail
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until they shove in the goofy iris-t trucks at least

orchid notch
shrewd pecan
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probably gonna be the top dog SPAA

shut wren
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Alright what if

tough quail
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might give it a run for its money but wont really be as good vs helos

shrewd pecan
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I'm just expecting it to perform like the Tunguska

tough quail
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its just a super ultra tunguska, yeah

shut wren
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we Get one of those Tunguska turrets and put more guns on it

shrewd pecan
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👁️ I'm gonna have to get off my Mavericks faster for that thing

shut wren
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and put more of em

frigid karma
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Do fighters count as spaa

shrewd pecan
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no

frigid karma
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They are self propelled

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They have the ability to shoot planes down

shrewd pecan
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does me sprinting towards a Boeing 747 with a shovel and ill intent count as SPAA?

frigid karma
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It’s not spaaa just spaa, the artillery part isn’t necessary

jagged monolith
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Pantsir vs competent EA has never ended particularly well for the former

shrewd pecan
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classified

frigid karma
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If not you can’t call it aa

shut wren
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Assume it is

jagged monolith
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but then again the operators are who they are

shut wren
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what if

jagged monolith
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but then again original manufacturer
but then again they are better but not by that much

tough quail
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what if you didnt finish this train of thought

frigid karma
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The world would be a better place

shut wren
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we rip the wings off a F-16 and we put it on a Pantsir and We launch it at targets

jagged monolith
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It disintegrates

shut wren
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as aa

tough quail
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please spare my brain cells

tough quail
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anyway CAS go die like it deserves

orchid notch
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Just think

shut wren
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What if

shrewd pecan
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gods greatest CAS

shut wren
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we get a Huge BB shell and stuff more boom inside

frigid karma
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Bring back tunnel warfare

jagged monolith
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air defense delet

shut wren
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and rocket motor

jagged monolith
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ARMs for everyone

shut wren
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and shoot it at bombers

shut wren
orchid notch
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A

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cool

ivory ridge
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when Japan gets a plane they never used nor actually exists but italy isnt allowed its F-16 block 10s because they werent air worthy

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at least they actually fucking existed

shut wren
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Gaijin moment

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Maybe they just hate Pizzas

frigid karma
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Hey hey, wows copyrighted that

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They should sue

shrewd pecan
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I am a aggressor camo enjoyer

shut wren
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It looks like a Su-57 style camo

tough quail
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arm goobers when they just get yeeted by infrareds instead

shut wren
tough quail
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...

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what do you think "aggressor" means

shut wren
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No idea

orchid notch
shut wren
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What if

shrewd pecan
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anyway

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in terms of the aggressors

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outside of war thunder

jagged monolith
shut wren
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We strap a F-16 to a Bigger bomber and launch it as a air launch platform

jagged monolith
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Anyway glory to missile defense

shrewd pecan
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aggressor squadrons are essentially the squadrons pilots train against

jagged monolith
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aircraft defense is for weaklings who can’t swat SEAD out of the sky

shrewd pecan
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they get special camo schemes to match "near peer opponents" aircraft

shut wren
shrewd pecan
shut wren
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So they basically dress up other planes to look like russian ones

shrewd pecan
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Russian or Chinese

shrewd pecan
shut wren
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Post pics of chinese ones

orchid notch
jagged monolith
shrewd pecan
shut wren
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Didnt Know we became aliens

shrewd pecan
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the Su-57 scheme is probably the best one

delicate beacon
shrewd pecan
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alongside Alaska's

tough quail
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russian plane liveries and their boat paint schemes usually look pretty good

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tank camos a bit hit or miss

shut wren
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They got tank camo?

shrewd pecan
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Aussies like the best ground camo for my opinion

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in terms of aircraft

shut wren
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I though that shit was green

shrewd pecan
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toss up between Japan or aggressor schemes for fixed wing

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aussies again for helis

shut wren
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Bob semple tank when

tough quail
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normie alert

shrewd pecan
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ADF shit in general just looks incredible tbh

tough quail
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yeah pretty good

shrewd pecan
shut wren
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Gaijin please more 4th gens for USSR

shut wren
shrewd pecan
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because australia

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I bet they got all the cool ship camos n shit

tough quail
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also yeah they do have funny camos

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just hard to top the shade of green they've been using

shut wren
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Would be cool if those mfs dont pop in battle

tough quail
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other tanks just turn into a sealed furnace instead if the turret doesnt fly off

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its not really a big difference

shut wren
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I mean

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More mfs need the abrams design

shrewd pecan
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abrams still has the most sensible ammo placement

tough quail
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tell that to literally every tank designer out of the us

shrewd pecan
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tho the K-2PL

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looks like its gonna have pretty decent ammo storage as well

shut wren
tough quail
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probably just not worth whatever perceived tradeoffs there are to other countries

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because even upcoming designs afaik dont do it

shrewd pecan
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its down to general design

shut wren
tough quail
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like even the projected mbt projects dont do it afaik

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(and its also a really bad idea on the neo abrams)

shrewd pecan
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from the looks of it

shut wren
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What if

shrewd pecan
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most new tanks are doing away with hull ammo storage in entirely

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in terms of design trade offs

shut wren
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We replace the crew with robots n shit

shrewd pecan
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idk its just down to how to design the tank

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abrams has fuel storage up front

tough quail
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which new tanks

shrewd pecan
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over ammo

tough quail
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because the ones i know of all have hull ammo

shrewd pecan
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panther

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EMBT

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newer K2 variants are gonna be removing ammo from the crew compartment all together

tough quail
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...doesn't the panther autoloader only have like 20 rounds

shrewd pecan
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yup

shut wren
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Thoughs on the M3 Halftrack?

ivory ridge
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130mm moment

tough quail
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yeah on any deployment the crews are going to carry ammo in the hull

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thats kinda uh

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not enough

ivory ridge
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just half than usual

tough quail
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actually it really did just click with me why nobody does it

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the crews dont give a fuck

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surplus ammo has literally always outweighed safety to tank crews

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most pens will kill everyone inside anyway so might as well have more rounds to actually fight with

shut wren
shut wren
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So basically "YOLO"

tough quail
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yes really

shrewd pecan
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even on the T-72s and shit unless its something fully penetrating the UFP

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its either the driver or turret crew that dies

tough quail
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your turret crew will have a smidge of issue leaving without feet most likely

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and if it goes through the turret front the ammo will kill everyone anyway

shrewd pecan
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if the ammos hit the tanks and its crew done for yeah that's a given

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tho if the tanks penetrated it doesn't always mean everyones dead unless there just that unlucky

shut wren
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Could the MG gunner survive If they hop out in time?

tough quail
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the neo abrams tech demo is a very weird mix of traits

shrewd pecan
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what MG gunner?

tough quail
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where the ammo should probably be entirely hull stored

shrewd pecan
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abrams x seems to have a bustlerack

tough quail
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because the turret is too thin to take direct hits from the front

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and is still connected to the crew compartment

shrewd pecan
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in general I'm not really

tough quail
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so you're basically defenseless

shrewd pecan
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convinced with abrams X being a good concept

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since it doesn't even have the low profile turret as a benefit of a crewless turret

shut wren
tough quail
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its got the worse traits of western and soviet tank design

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rolled together into something uniquely awful

shrewd pecan
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it has a few technologies on it that should probably be slapped on a M1A3 or a future abrams replacement

shut wren
shrewd pecan
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beyond that I don't think crewless turret is the way to go for US tanks

tough quail
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it basically cant protect itself given it doesnt have adequate turret armor and you cant hull down a... turret

jagged monolith
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Look at it, it’s got a Divert and Attitude Control System, lethality enhancer with hit to kill, and dual pulse for improved energy control options!

tough quail
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and the blowout panels wont work from a frontal pen + the turret still feeds into the crew compartment

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so everyone dies

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its effectively gods dumbest light tank

shrewd pecan
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we could of had it all

tough quail
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also someone thought it was a good idea

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to replace the turbine with something dramatically worse

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an american 5tdf

shrewd pecan
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I would of personally just

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developed a better more efficient turbine

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but I'm in the minority in that regard

tough quail
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im all for a diesel obviously

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they just picked

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the worst kind of diesel possible

jagged monolith
tough quail
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the US should not be trying to reproduce kharkovite nightmare engines

shrewd pecan
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honestly if there gonna fully move away from diesel I'd just make the jump to hybrid tanks

tough quail
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america using a normal engine challenge

shrewd pecan
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shut up

shut wren
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Alright No more brain cell destruction

shrewd pecan
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shame CATTB got dropped

jagged monolith
shrewd pecan
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really was just the best M1A3 proposal

shrewd pecan
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autoloaded Abrams with a three man crew, new gas turbine, improved armor and roof protection intended to protect against TOW-2Bs and other top down attack missiles

tough quail
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waaaaay better than the GD monstrosity

shrewd pecan
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prototyped weighed in at around 70 tons

jagged monolith
shrewd pecan
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tho I imagine that could be easily reduced to current abrams standard weight ranges with newer technologies

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that and finally throwing the XM360 gun into a tank

shrewd pecan
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shave off a ton and get a better gun with one easy trick

jagged monolith
shut wren
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This man gone overboard

shrewd pecan
shut wren
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Bocci don’t know howda fly

shrewd pecan
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the better abrams X

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actually low profile turret

shut wren
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Over sized thumbtack/those push tacks

manic latch
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Should have picked OSA instead

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All reliant on Missile like Tor

spiral cedar
jagged monolith
manic latch
jagged monolith
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It fhacking sucks

unborn wyvern
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Wargame Red Dragon isn't a simulator 🙄

shut wren
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What if

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we Use missiles to deilver packages

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Like

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strap a amazon package to a AGM or guided bomb

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and take the boom out of course

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like

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put a parachute on it

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and launch it

junior trench
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a HEAT jet or dart that passes through a frontal armor array isn't intact enough to punch through the bulkhead in front of the ammo rack

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it doesn't take much armor to reduce the coherency of a KEP or HEAT jet

shut wren
jagged monolith
shut wren
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For the Amazon Prime PREMIUM mfs

jagged monolith
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Your brain comes up with obviously uneconomical ideas

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we must treat your ailments with focused radiation

shut wren
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Its capable of not doing that

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I just choose to turn off the fail safes

strong plank
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didn't work

shut wren
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I wanna see

strong plank
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the pentomic division's flaw was that dispersion of forces and resupply of said forces were incompatible, so an idea they toyed with was using rockets to deliver supplies

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don't know how far it got

tough quail
shut wren
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What if

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we make all the nuclear spent fuel Into weapons ammo

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I know we already doing it

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but with more types

jagged monolith
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spent fuel is a bitch and is exponentially more dangerous coming out of the reactor than it was going in

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the deenriched uranium is however piling up so you might be able to go somewhere with that if you need a nice dense heavy metal.

shut wren
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Last what if of the day

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what if

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We take one of those Nice heavy metals

frigid karma
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no

shut wren
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make it into a Round

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and drop it from High alts to destroy shit

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like bunkers n tanks

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buildings n shit

strong plank
jagged monolith
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this is called bunker busting munitions and the US has been making them for ages

shut wren
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we can use spent fuel for it

jagged monolith
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how about no

shut wren
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hmmm

strong plank
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50s and 60s were really strange

shut wren
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We could do some shit with it

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Like rail gun ammo or some shit

jagged monolith
shut wren
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Basically

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We load this shit on to a Missile and we spread radioactive shit all over the enemy mfs

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alright I'll stop

jagged monolith
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Yea ok

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No more brain cell damage today

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yall can come out

subtle prawn
cinder gale
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So from my understanding the next event is Italian re run but by history there are really no more ships to add from this faction.? If my research is correct except pr planned ones anyone got some history on Italian ships left that would be worth adding.?

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Italian modern battleships are exhausted

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But the entire Duilio class is not yet added, as is the carrier Sparviero

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The Giuseppe Miraglia may also be added as a CVL, since AL does not like to distinct between AV and CV

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And there's still a massive ton of smaller vessels, from cruisers to destroyers alike

deep apex
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They also are missing 2 heavy cruisers

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And they have like

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Actually

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No they don't have any light cruisers

eternal veldt
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The entire fucking Conglomerate of the Condottieris?

deep apex
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Start with the Raimondo Montecuccolis

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WAIT

eternal veldt
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Giussanos, as crap as they are, are viable

deep apex
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I forgot about Abruzzi and Garibaldi

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They are condottieris

eternal veldt
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Put Duca D'Aosta as Russian and watch Undefined have a mental meltdown here

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Oh and I forgot, Dante Aligheri and the Francesco Carraciolos are all fair game

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As...iffy as the latter's design may seem in hindsight

strong plank
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yeah Italy's still got shit tons of ships left doesn't it

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That said, first time for everything

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Does Royal fortune count as a war reparations ship? It’s assumed she’s a combination of all 4 RFs, which means she would’ve been a captured ship

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Point is, if it fits the faction, it goes.

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You have ships like the an shans too if you count any form of sale

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Imagine

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...USS Prinz Eugen

alpine onyx
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now with less gun, less AA, less hydrophone, and a crew that didn't read the unwritten handbook

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plus, crippled engines

alpine onyx
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that is the last point

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how to know you are supposed to run the engines to a different spec when the datasheet says otherwise

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anyway I'm finally glad I have Anatomy of Hiryu in there

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Hello, I am new. Does anyone else study FUTHARK?

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here, not to my knowledge

tribal mortar
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Especially late futhorc and anglo-saxon runes

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the topic of discussion usually spans from 300-65mya to post-1900

remote monolith
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accurate

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indeed, a large time span, but one which doesn't contain old norse

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apologies

tribal mortar
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A-okay, ty

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I have a very specific knowledge of history, sorry Wotspite

remote monolith
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its fine, anyone is welcome here

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if you have any interesting stuff about futhark runes go ahead and post it here

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ty!
I dont have a topic atm, but i would like to recommend my fav YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQWSwUbnofw

Well it had to happen. I just had to find a history movie I hated even more than The Patriot! But you know what's funny, you'd think that casting probably THE most French actor you could possibly think of to play the most famous Italian explorer in history would piss me off. But no.....it doesn't

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ah

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the man who described the actual dying words of soldiers as melodramatic, cliche, and overused

tribal mortar
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which vid is that?

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We Were Soldiers

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the one where the movie is nearly one for one of the book of compiled accounts by the people there

tribal mortar
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right then, i like his vids on mel gibson movies but i understand that his other vids aren't par

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it's a Mel Gibson movie

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where like, no liberties were taken

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amusingly

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him and Trey the Explainer are good

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do you have any recs for historically accurate reviewers?

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Trey the Explainer when he does make content

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is pretty good

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most I can really say for him is that his twitter gets uhhhhh

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interesting at times let's just say that

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Is there a sketch of Yamato without the bow indentation?

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What do you mean bow indentation? The raised forecastle section next to Turret B?

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CleveStare Trey's twitter...

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Yo, there ever been conflicts involving USN and Italian ships?

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even in battles inside the med like torch the US landings were mostly aided by british warships

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and the landings were mostly unopposed by the navy being so late in the war

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Interesting

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That dip on the deck that starts right where the superfiring 6inch is

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Which, yah, is the raised forecastle

eternal veldt
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The raised forecastle was for weight saving, as I recall.

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Pre-Armistice there were some close encounters between American and Italian surface forces, but no pitched fights

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The only clash between 'major' units is on 3 August 1943, when an American destroyer (USS Buck, a Sims-class) sunk the submarine Argento off the northeast coast of Pantelleria

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Otherwise, it was mainly USAAC/AAF doing the work in the Med against the RM rather than the USN

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Post-Armistice there were more clashes between the RSI navy and USN (albeit these were mostly MTB actions)

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Probably the closest we came to a direct clash between major US and Italian warships;

Thinking Oliva had come close to success, Supermarina launched a follow-up raid with Garibaldi and Duca d’Aosta, under Rear Admiral Giuseppe Fioravanzo’s command. These ships departed Genoa on 6 August and staged through La Maddalena the next day. However, as they approached Palermo at 0200 on 8 August, a radar-equipped German aircraft warned of enemy warships near the target. Supermarina ordered Fioravanzo to continue, assessing the sighting as four merchant vessels, but Fioravanzo had already turned away. Had he continued he would have run into the U.S. light cruisers Philadelphia and Savannah and destroyers Bristol and Ludlow. The Regia Marina’s new chief of staff, Admiral Raffaele De Courten, who was half-German and had been the naval attaché in Berlin, sacked Fioravanzo and continued to mount cruiser sweeps from Taranto, mainly to lay mines.

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However, it is known that the Shinano sub-class may eliminate that slope, or make it more gentle, according to one source.

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Nice

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Im just gonna ask here since I've pretty much accidentally trapped myself between drawing Cleveland and Making Cleveland in Simpleplanes at the same time, anyone got Cleve-class BPs I can use that doesn't have a late war bridge? all I have rn are either very low detail, out of scale, or has post Mobile (CL-63) bridge MurmWat

subtle prawn
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pepega

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"invented racial segregation"

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it's probably a response

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to a similarly deranged take

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but doing the opposite

chilly osprey
# junior trench didn't the RM surrender/intern into USN custody rather than RN custody as often ...

I don't know if I would explicitly describe it as a 'fuck you' move, but it was absolutely the case that the Americans generally treated it as a cease-fire while the British treated it as a surrender - which was generally in line with how the RM was reacting to the armistice terms, even though the armistice itself was a surrender.

Italian surface units that encountered British units would recieve requests for surrender and to haul down their flag, allow borders, etc, while the Americans were generally more inclined to go 'cool, would you like some powdered eggs and coffee?'

It's worth keeping in mind that, up to the armistice, while the RN had beaten the RM in battles, the core of the navy's fighting power still existed and they did not really believe the RN had managed to beat them yet - and were preparing for a last ditch action off Salerno the night the armistice was being announced. After the armistice was announced, the Italian Admiralty ordered their ships- against the terms of the armistice - to seek refuge in ports that were under Italian control, safe from the Germans but also not under Allied control. For many Italian ships, the next 24-48 hours was spent trying to figure out which ports had or hadn't fallen to the Germans, and especially for the smaller ships, fighting their way out of ports or otherwise immediately ending up in action with German ships, aircraft, and land-based batteries. Very understandably, after that experience of already being at war with the Germans, few were really inclined to entertain most of the British demands for immediate surrender and disarmament.

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This attitude, alongside American support, ultimately lead to the signing of a modification to the armistice that effectively wrote out the requirement of surrender, and allowed them to fight alongside Allied forces (though, of course, this was only staving off the inevitable and the bill came anyways after the war when the permament peace treaty was drawn up and signed in 1947).

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It's worth noting, most Italian admirals who had to make decisions in the heat of the moment did not have access to the text of the armistice and did not know the exact terms by which Italian ships were expected to surrender or demilitarize. For the most part, they were either doing what was in the best interests of whatever forces were under their command, and based on what they assumed any armistice or cease fire would ask of them to do.

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I'd like whatever we can get

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In the best timeframe

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And that can ideally be built here

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It doesn't matter if it's British American or a combination of the two so long as we have subs

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Dutton has a point about interoperability but him pretending that he wanted American subs from the start is just him bullshitting as usual

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And the two LdSdd Abruzzis were mentioned to be a part of that force

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Largest vessel to be launched with bananas

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There’s more?

subtle prawn
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Do you happen to have the date of the raid ZG3 was supposed to partake in?

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Oh

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Wait

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Hang on, was this in August 1942?

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If so, that would have been in support of the action against the Operation Pedestal convoy... but 8a Division (and Hermes) would have been in the Eastern Med at the time, covering convoys. They may have called for the raid force to be ready if the British had tried to send a convoy from Alexandria, as had been done in June (Operation Vigorous), but this time the British effort came through the Western Mediterranean only.

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I should check my Hermes post, it was mentioned there

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A force to intercept potential British forces attacking Egypt

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If you know the date or at least month I might be able to find the specific operation

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@manic latch Petr Velikiy

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The Royal Australian Air Force will reactivate a squadron for the three MQ-4C Triton unmanned aerial vehicles it will start operating in 2024, Australian Defense officials announced Friday. Australian Deputy Prime Minister and Defense Minister Richard Marles and Chief of the RAAF Air Marshal Robert Chipman announced the reformation of the squadr...

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what if

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we strap 2 of those on a good turret stand

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and use it as AA

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what if

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we did quirky and unconventional thing for no benefit

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updoots to the left

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These are the shells petr velikiy’s 305mm gun uses

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Both cast iron with lead sheathes

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More boom less shells

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You can see the shells here as well

shut wren
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Cool

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What if bradley turret on Humvee

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@tough quail @manic latch

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baby oh baby

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Look at those cute lead sheathed shells

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(Three in front)

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thats adorable

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All the angles

manic latch
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I love last gen blackpowder guns

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Aint those the mfs they put on sailboats before steam ones

spring briar
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that cannon looks nsfw

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i will now proceed to hang myself on the conveniently located noose next to it

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@manic latch

shut wren
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Back when Russia bought guns from Krupp

manic latch
tough quail
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NO DEALS WITH FASCISTS

shut wren
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aint kurpps the mfs who build the gustav

spring briar
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So before they went mad

spring briar
tough quail
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were they ever not

strong plank
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when the fish start talking shit

tough quail
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true

shut wren
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Depth charges

spring briar
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Which do you choose to be

shut wren
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Oh shit forgot we dont use em anymore

shut wren
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I mean

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the first one

strong plank
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it's all asroc's now

delicate beacon
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I spot kabooms

shut wren
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How do Gunpods work

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like

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their insides

delicate beacon
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Pretty much the same as every other gun?

spring briar
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@manic latch

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Police officers inspecting my room

delicate beacon
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Richieeeeeeeeeeeee

spring briar
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Sang

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Sang I have found the holy grail

manic latch
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I am dazed, possibly sick, stressed from life and trying to beat autism and agoraphobia by messaging lots of archives and planning travel. So how about you?

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Shells

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🐚 naroNom

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But I'm working hard on developping my first book for printing UniFlox

shut wren
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what if

spring briar
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we strap cannon shells on planes and drop em like bombs

spring briar
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Blessed late 19th century shells

delicate beacon
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Hmm

shut wren
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19th century shells are something different

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dem curves

tough quail
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disregard depth charges acquire these spicy boys

shut wren
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Dem torps can fly

delicate beacon
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pews

spring briar
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Early 2Oth century shells

delicate beacon
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Yes but they're Krupp early 20th century shells

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So they're basically late 19th

ivory ridge
delicate beacon
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With copper gas check

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Like this

tough quail
delicate beacon
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Didn't Krupp get its original stuff through espionage from the English?

spring briar
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I don’t really care

delicate beacon
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Wonder where the 28cms were from again

spring briar
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I mostly care about Russian and French shells at this time

delicate beacon
spring briar
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28 cm most likely from krupp

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They exported those things to everyone

delicate beacon
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I think someone wrote a book about them

shut wren
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so krupp basically build all the big boi guns

spring briar
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No

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wow this author sucks

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he doesnt know

spring briar
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Krupp was good at guns around the 9-12 inch caliber

shut wren
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They made one really big one for the Paris expo in 1867

tough quail
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tfw the cold war happens so we didnt get weird amx-13/t-54 hybrid export tanks

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why live

delicate beacon
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brb having to read an article this size...
Spread over 5 newspapers.

spring briar
tough quail
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if the cold war doesn't happen who are you building AMX-13s against

delicate beacon
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F R E N

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exactly

delicate beacon
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the africans?

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yes

shut wren
spring briar
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When it’s cold outside

manic latch
shut wren
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w-what

shrewd pecan
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????

spring briar
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That’s a RML

shut wren
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I have no idea what you're talking about

spring briar
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RML = rifled muzzle loader

shut wren
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tf does it do

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I'm so depressed. Life keeps kicking me in the shins. I finaly found the BUSTER mount blueprints but have no way to access them. naroDespair

delicate beacon
tough quail
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fascinating

shrewd pecan
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france

spring briar
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Right the army did a big training in the south east iirc

shut wren
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what are they?

delicate beacon
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?

shut wren
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the blueprints

manic latch
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Buster mount blueprints..

delicate beacon
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Buster mount blueprints are... buster mount blueprints.

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Unless you mean where.

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To which the answer is Tyne and Wear archives

shut wren
shrewd pecan
spring briar
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@manic latch

manic latch
subtle prawn
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I mean why wouldn't they if they had it?

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Kinda feels "obviously" answer

maiden citrus
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because 1 it undoes historical revisionism to have it plainly admitted
2 it's somehow even more terrifying if those in evil had gotten such a thing

manic latch
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They were planning bio virus attack yeah

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Nothing would stop them for atomic bomb

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Operation PX, also known as Operation Cherry Blossoms at Night, was a planned Japanese military attack on civilians in the United States using biological weapons, devised during World War II. The proposal was for Imperial Japanese Navy submarines to launch seaplanes that would deliver weaponized bubonic plague, developed by Unit 731 of the Imper...

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'how many random people can we kill'

spring briar
maiden citrus
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what a cutie

scarlet ledge
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But if japan hsd a nuke wouldn’t they just figure out a way to drop it on america asap anyways

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I mean anyone would’ve done that to whatever country they thought was the biggest threat

shut wren
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No bombers?

maiden citrus
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knowing japan it would've been for maximum civllian casualties like the cherry blossoms operation, and plus, not really, the one country that developed them on allies still debated on using them and even then didn't use them on other enemies when they could have

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Honorable

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Much honor

maiden citrus
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probably, just we're assuming they have it and the capability (they had neither)

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God I want George takei as a wows commander

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“You are made of stupid”

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“Your destiny is failure”

shut wren
tough quail
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instructions unclear, nukes vladivostok

shut wren
eternal veldt
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I forgot if it was Cunningham that wrote the opposite: Malta now has an entire Italian fleet at harbour

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Ah no, Cunningham wrote the first. Thanks again for this excerpt.

Probably one of the best excerpts describing the even;

After this meeting Cunningham sent his oft-quoted signal to the Admiralty, “Be pleased to inform their Lordships that the Italian Battle fleet now lays at anchor under the guns of the fortress of Malta.” These famous words disguised the fact that the British did not have physical control over the former enemy fleet. The Americans especially appreciated the irony. When Admiral di Pollone’s Squadretta unexpectedly arrived at Palermo from the island of Elba, at 1000 on 12 September, the American commander there felt like signaling, “Be pleased to inform Their Lordships that Palermo lies under the guns of an Italian Fleet.” The British lack of control was further indicated by a letter Cunningham sent to Admiral Willis on 14 September in which he worried, “[the Italian Fleet] is alright at the moment but I smell trouble coming. I am quite convinced that all the ships are prepared to scuttle should things not be to their liking.”

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It is indeed ironic

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They went to Malta alright

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Just...not as conquerors as they've liked.

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I should find that photo of KGV leading an Italian line again. Buried it somewhere and forgot.

chilly osprey
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KGV lead Da Zara's force in, iirc (Duilio, Doria, Cadorna, Scipione Africano)

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As originally completed in the 1920s, the Model C and Model D mountings used pusher hoists for the powder charges that effectively created a continuous powder train between the gun breeches and the magazines. These powder hoists were replaced by bucket hoists in 1930s which gave improved protection from flash. Shell hoists remained pusher types. Flashtight doors were fitted to all shell and powder hoists at both the lower and upper ends. Revolving flash tight scuttles were fitted between the magazines and powder handling rooms. These changes did slow down the supply rate of ammunition to four charges per minute. However, the new arrangements proved their worth when a flareback wrecked Turret No. 2 on Ashigara in the summer of 1935. Although 41 men were killed or injured, the flash did not penetrate down into the magazines and the ship was saved.

manic latch
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Tho New York also had many ports for ship construction right

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Tho it's hard to reach nvm

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Japan would pick smh like California?

shut wren
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High population density location(s) in the west coast

shut wren
strong plank
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Philadelphia was a big ship construction hub

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Norfolk too

delicate beacon
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It feels weird writing about a person with the same last name as I.

shut wren
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?

subtle prawn
delicate beacon
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God it's this late already

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I've been transcribing for too long

jagged monolith
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A sword of a great hero, Mo Jeon Gu is not forgotten yet!

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GSDF BullDog

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Manhattan 1919

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Man it was beautiful

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subtle prawn
jagged monolith
desert agate
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tough quail
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rip

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DAPA keeps records and popularizes exports on ourend

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If you really need reference, consider navsource.

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or, if you're really desperate, I can get you the WoWS model.

solid mango
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Already hab the WoWs model ManjuuNom

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But thx anyways Glowow

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Oh yeah and even some modelling images are helpful

manic latch
spring briar
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30mm AP shell with solid rocket engines

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?

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context?

subtle prawn
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My beloved

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delicate beacon
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Adjusted maine

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Yesterday was the 93rd anniversary of the first flight of the Fairey Gordon UniHappy
Below, a Fairey Gordon of the 4th S&BD (Brazilian Naval Aviation) flies on the side of school ship "Almirante Saldanha", during her arrival in Brazil in 1934

spring briar
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Cute bote

rapid junco
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Indeed

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It's the same ship btw

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She went from this

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To that

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In 1957 she was converted into an oceanographic ship

delicate beacon
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Sorry not sorry

maiden citrus
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be not afraid

delicate beacon
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Still less scary than his Dreadnought design.

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Fortunately he stopped designing surface battleships after that.

shut wren
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what if

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we stack BB turrets

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on the BB

halcyon owl
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carrier landings are hard jfc

tough quail
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that after the immediately preceding images paints a very grim picture

frigid karma
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the dive bombing part is surprisingly easy

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:3

tough quail
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anyways the amount of times i have crashed into yorktown's ass this afternoon is embarassing

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i have newfound respect for ranger's planes who have to land on a runway blocked by a giant pair of tits

thorn trail
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Is there a picture of majority or all the Essex class carriers deployed together?

subtle prawn
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The Famous "Murder's Row" is as good as it gets

thorn trail
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Is there any historical reason for the skill of Bataan that's related to Hellcats?

scarlet ledge
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Got a photo with an F-22 demo team pilot lol

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Oh man i love interacting with us military personnel

scarlet ledge
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The airshow haul

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Not pictured are the various pins

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dapper parcel
manic latch
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AL? Not so much

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manic latch
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2nd pic goes hard

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Hughes’s battles with Wilson on German New Guinea became the stuff of folklore. In one of their meetings on the topic, Wilson challenged Hughes as to whether Australia and New Zealand were presenting an ultimatum to the conference.

Hughes, who was deaf, and especially so when it suited him, fiddled with his hearing aid, and asked for the question to be repeated. When it was, he replied:

That’s about the size of it, Mr President. That puts it very well.

When Wilson asked Hughes whether he expected the five million Australians he represented to be set against the twelve hundred million represented by the conference, Hughes responded, ‘I speak for sixty thousand dead For how many do you speak?

Finally, when the British Prime Minister David Lloyd George tried to mediate by asking Hughes if Australia would grant free access for missionaries in any New Guinea mandate, Hughes replied: ‘I understand that these poor people are very short of food and for some time past they have not had enough missionaries.’ Wilson did not see the joke.

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今日のJMU呉事業所
護衛艦「かが」改修工事で
ビニールハウスの一部の撤去が始まったという
ことで、何か変化あれば見に行くことにしている
ので見に行ってきた。
隣のドックではコンテナ船?の建造も始まった。
大きさからしてWAN HAIのコンテナ船かな?

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4th?

chilly osprey
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Looks like a container ship about to start assembly

subtle prawn
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@spring briar

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Gripen C and Mirage 2000
Santa Cruz Airbase

spring briar
shrewd pecan
rapid junco
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excellent

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They had a short life on the FAB
Compared to the Mirage III