history

[shrewd pecan]

now I love the 16s

but there worse than my tomcat

[tribal mortar]

Well if you know how to play it

[manic latch]

Did Spon snitch

[tough quail]

if you know how to play all three the 16s going to get rolled by either of the other two

[shut wren]

Rip me lol

[tribal mortar]

True

[shrewd pecan]

I mean

I can take on MIG-29s fine in my A and my ADF

the tomcat just has the endless missiles

alongside F&F capability with the 54s

[tough quail]

and mig-23s can dunk all over tomcats too

[shrewd pecan]

literally Iran-Iraq war levels of shit where your the only one with true BVRs in the tomcat

[tribal mortar]

Yeah

[tough quail]

not really a good argument there

[tribal mortar]

Yeah

But it also depends on the player too. Whether or not they are good at the game or not

[shrewd pecan]

its usually down to player

[tribal mortar]

Yeah

[shrewd pecan]

but generally put the F-14s just better with what your capable with

most of its players are brain dead which makes it seem not as good

[tribal mortar]

Yeah

[shrewd pecan]

tho considering its like the only aircraft that I'm positive in in terms of air to air kills

[tribal mortar]

On a side note, i do not recall making my name this lol.

[tribal mortar]

Yeah, I believe your correct

[shrewd pecan]

not sure about the MIG-29 since I don't have one

[shut wren]

I have a 0.65kills per death in my Mig

[shrewd pecan]

tho overall I tend to have more issues with MIG-23s than MIG-29s

even then that's just down to them either catching me off guard or me putting myself into a bad spot

[tribal mortar]

Yeah

[shrewd pecan]

F-16 also seems pretty evenly match to the MIG-23

anyway

before we piss off teah even more

[humble mulch]

[tribal mortar]

Lol

[shrewd pecan]

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-highest-scoring-f14-tomcat-pilot-ever-was-iranian-2021-3

[humble mulch]

based Iranian tomcats

[shrewd pecan]

gods greatest shitbox of a plane https://theaviationgeekclub.com/former-iriaf-f-14-pilot-explains-how-he-was-able-to-score-16-aerial-kills-in-the-tomcat-eight-with-the-aim-54-phoenix-missile-two-with-the-m61a-vulcan-gun-and-one-with-the-mim-23-hawk-missile/

[shut wren]

Stupid Ideas:We get a Tu-4 and we strap a Il-28 Below it and After Tu-4 has to Return Il-28 Starts and Drops to finish mission

[tough quail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/910690876169281587/1078341189171957800/caption-6.gif

[shrewd pecan]

"According to Tom Cooper and Farzad Bishop, during the Iran–Iraq War AIM-54s fired by IRIAF Tomcats achieved 78 victories against Iraqi MiG-21/23/25s, Tu-22s, Su-20/22s, Mirage F 1s, Super Étendards, and even two AM-39 Exocets and a C-601. This includes two occasions where one AIM-54 was responsible for the downing of two Iraqi aircraft, as well as an incident on January 7, 1981 where a Phoenix fired at a four-ship of MiG-23s downed three and damaged the fourth.[4]"

[shut wren]

I forgot Mig-25s were a thing

[shrewd pecan]

"Based on research by Tom Cooper and Farzad Bishop, Iran claimed their F-14s shot down at least 160 Iraqi aircraft during the Iran–Iraq War, including 58 MiG-23s (15 of these are confirmed according to Cooper), 33 Mirage F1s, 23 MiG-21s, 23 Su-20s/22s, nine MiG-25s (one of these are confirmed according to Iraqi sources), five Tu-22s, two MiG-27s, one Mil Mi-24, one Dassault Mirage 5, one B-6D, one Aérospatiale Super Frelon, and two unidentified aircraft. "

so this plane with shitty engines

maintenance requirements worse than the average BMW

in foreign service managed kills on everything from MIG-25s to Mirage F1s

and only around 7 got shot down

[shut wren]

US superior tech

[shrewd pecan]

makes me wonder how the Iraqi mirage-2000s would of managed if they actually went with the 2000 over the 29

[manic latch]

Don't they have most F4 kills

[shut wren]

No Idea

[shrewd pecan]

no

[manic latch]

Who did

[shrewd pecan]

probably the 21

[shut wren]

let me see

[shrewd pecan]

I don't think the 25 ever fought the F-4

[shut wren]

"A total of 445 Air Force Phantom fighter-bombers were lost, 370 in combat and 193 of those over North Vietnam (33 to MiGs, 30 to SAMs, and 307 to AAA)."

[shrewd pecan]

ah I forgot Iran had them

main killer of F-4s was AAA and SAMs

[manic latch]

On 17 January 1987, an Iraqi MiG-25PDS shot down an Iranian F-14A with an R-40 missile

[shut wren]

^

[shrewd pecan]

tho over Iran-Iraq

yeah MIG-25s vs F-4Es

[desert agate]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1629233229201911811?s=20

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

#RIP songwriter Tom Whitlock who passed away on Saturday at the age of 68. Whitlock co-wrote 'Danger Zone" for the opening scene of TOP GUN. He also co-wrote the film's ballad “Take My Breath Away” which earned him an Academy Award for best original song.

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Twitter · Feb 24, 2023, 9:34 PM

[shrewd pecan]

damn

[tough quail]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-gif-8977961

[shut wren]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-police-gif-23079424

[shrewd pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-burt-lancaster-run-silent-run-deep-saluting-hero-gif-26186351

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1629571812248911873

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

#OTD 1933, USS Ranger was launched. Ranger was the first U.S. ship to be designed and built from the keel up as a carrier. She was one of only three U.S. carriers commissioned before 1941 to survive WWII. Deemed too slow for the Pacific Theater, she served mostly in the Atlantic.

Twitter · Feb 25, 2023, 7:59 PM

[manic latch]

Drach says she was the worst carrier US built for her time

It was because of weight limitation but I forgot where it came from

Either budget or a naval treaty

[desert agate]

naval treaty

kinda

she was a smaller carrier intended basically as a testbed

[manic latch]

Ye US navy determines a carrier is obsolete if below 20k tons then they launch Ranger which means she was already obsolete as launched by US standards

[alpine onyx]

She be fine

Tho hinged funnels are sketchy

[manic latch]

Not enough speed
Not enough elevators?
Forget rest of problems

[alpine onyx]

Should have three elevators, though the aftmost one is in a very unfortunate position

[maiden citrus]

difference in speed is less than 3 knots, ranger is a fine carrier and better than many that took part in ww2

[alpine onyx]

And speed is, eh, I guess? If you end up with a battleship escort you'll have to drop to those 28ish knots anyway unless you are fine with breaking formation

Unless the BB is North Carolina, then it's 25kn

And if my memory isn't all crap NC did end up being next to some of the fleet carriers during deployments

[maiden citrus]

correct, nc took part in a lot of pacific battles

also yeah, 3 elevators

ranger isn't bad she's just kinda mediocre

[alpine onyx]

She does look bad next to a Yorktown, but eh, those were laid down around the time Ranger was commissioned

[manic latch]

What bout

Lex vs Ranger

[maiden citrus]

yorktowns were also very good

as for lex vs ranger, lex is twice ranger's size

[alpine onyx]

I'll have to look for BPs to back this, but at first glance their usable hangar floor area seems to be around the same

Which is kinda shocking

But also not

[maiden citrus]

they carry around the same amount of ready planes

(both wings being pretty capable)

[alpine onyx]

As an absolute unit Lexington is superior, no surprise

But I think it was quite clear that they had to downsize their carriers significantly

Ranger at half the displacement delivers most of the aviation side, with some cuts in armament and speed, but brings the open hangar onto the table which would become a trademark of USN CVs

Consider that a W

[subtle prawn]

https://www.burlingtontoday.com/local-news/second-world-war-veteran-douglas-ross-rickard-dies-at-105-6597008

[rapid junco]

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHHV0fa3yI4

[sharp lotus]

Anyone know which SU2 is the Su2 prototype?

[wary osprey]

Not sure

[zealous vine]

Can someone remind me what this type of deck is called?

[deep apex]

Long

[eternal veldt]

Non-flush deck

But serious answer: raised deck section is called the Shelter deck

[tough quail]

iirc it is a flush deck, and structurally the raise is

well

superstructure

[zealous vine]

interesting.. thanks

[desert agate]

https://twitter.com/OnthisdayRN/status/1629717897814867970?s=20

On This Day RN (@OnthisdayRN)

#OnThisDay 70 years ago the First Lord of the Admiralty, presented the @RoyalNavy strength to @UKParliament
Manpower: 151,000
1 x Battleship
5 x Carriers
11 x Cruisers
62 x escorts
37 x submarines
48 x Minesweepers
332 x in reserve
13 x Frigates in build
95 x Sweepers in build

Twitter · Feb 26, 2023, 5:40 AM

https://twitter.com/CAF_Australia/status/1629744589501501442?s=20

Air Marshal Rob Chipman (@CAF_Australia)

Honoured to reopen the #RAAFMuseum, Point Cook this evening after 2-years of renovations. Watch history come alive in the new ‘Strike Experience’. Doors open to the public on Thu, 13 Apr 2023. #ThenNowAlways #AusAirForce #militaryaviation

Twitter · Feb 26, 2023, 7:26 AM

[hearty fulcrum]

Cool

[desert agate]

last time i was at Point Cook the P-3s were being retired I got to see them mothballed on the flight line

[frigid karma]

@remote monolith the two halves of this channel, combined

[remote monolith]

zased

[shrewd pecan]

so true

[remote monolith]

speaking of dinos https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/record-breaking-footprint-found-englands-dinosaur-coast-rcna70948

[silver crest]

i find it hilarious that the Anschluss vote has the "Ja" vote much bigger and more central than the "Nein" vote

[alpine onyx]

Wait until you see DDR votes

On top of that the instruction that anything that is not a cross in one of the two circles is to be counted as an invalid vote. And any invalid vote is to be counted according to presumed will, which naturally is a yes.

TL of the vote: "I am in favor of German unity and a fair peace treaty. As such, I hereby vote in favor of the following list of candidates for the third German congress"

[silver crest]

[ivory ridge]

[chilly osprey]

Oh, him

He talks a lot of shit

But once you get serious with the facts he deletes his comments and runs

https://www.reddit.com/r/WarshipPorn/comments/zizzzq/an_updated_canadian_surface_combatant/izzueii?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3

The comment he made to respond to that, which deleted immediately after posting so the only thing I got was the reddit notification

[eternal veldt]

At least his username is accurate

A hazard, but a rollover

[ivory ridge]

Ignoring the weird guy, i recognize Moderni_Centurio

He's the Oto simp

[chilly osprey]

lol

[delicate beacon]

It's your alt?

[jagged monolith]

italians

[ivory ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/get-real-girls-und-panzer-gif-20333800

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1629913124051513348

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

Commander W.B. Parham of the Gato-class submarine USS Gabilan (SS-252) became known as "head life guard on Tokyo Beach" after his sub rescued a total of 17 aviators who had crashed into the sea off the coast of Japan in 1945. #SubSunday

Twitter · Feb 26, 2023, 6:35 PM

[manic latch]

Nelson please let me die edition

[shrewd pecan]

Now this is the reality I want to be in

[manic latch]

Mine

[glass trail]

what the fu-

[shut wren]

Missile carrier

[delicate beacon]

Gun

[frigid karma]

holy shit sharpe is a good show

full series is on youtube

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1630021705958580225

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

There are many "Shellbacks", "Blue Noses" and "Golden Dragons" but perhaps the rarest Navy certificate is the "Grand Order of Muskies". It can only be earned by submariners who have submerged in all 5 Great Lakes. The crew of USS Corsair accomplished the feat in 1959. #SubSunday

Twitter · Feb 27, 2023, 1:47 AM

[shut wren]

The Great Lakes are connected?

[humble mulch]

Yeah

they go out to the Atlantic as well

Few Uboats got into them during the war

[shut wren]

Any photos

[dusty kraken]

damn imagine uboating all the way to the US and ending up in Chicago

[maiden citrus]

be uboat
you sail to lake erie
wait till nighttime to induce panic
you wake up at dusk on top of the water, floating
mrw sub is gone
can't have shit in detroit

[frigid karma]

wasn't it just uc97

and she was a pow then

[manic latch]

Maka would be proud

[maiden citrus]

tru

[dapper parcel]

Yes, but through a series of locks. You don't simply sail up there without someone actively allowing you in

[ivory ridge]

Man, remember this guy i found on reddit?

These are the in the same thread

And then he said this to himself

I think he wasnt joking when he told me he had issues

[frigid karma]

Bro sounds like emden

[delicate beacon]

@ivory ridge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbvwG2DT4VA
1:09:20
Enjoy

[ivory ridge]

I'm scared

[delicate beacon]

I have no idea what Drach said there, haven't watched it myself.

But call me if you need an ambulance or a murder weapon.

[ivory ridge]

He's just quoting reports from the time for now

Ok it wasnt bad

Not worse than usual at least

He just quoted reports from the RN and sailors and then talked about how they changed their tactics around it

[ivory ridge]

https://www.rid.it/shownews/5533

More FREMMs

(Or well, they are working on a fremm 2.0 design)

[manic latch]

Yikes

[chilly osprey]

DUAL
BAND
RADAR

That matches the rumors we'd heard about the FREMM-EVO to date

And Credendino did say that procuring 3-6 more ASW FREMM was the navy's highest priority for new major platforms.

[ivory ridge]

now give them 32 cells

[chilly osprey]

That actually seems likely

Since they want to put the deep strike cruise missiles on them

Though unfortunately that might also mean they don't really get an increase in the number of SAMs carried

Also, just watched that Drach clip

I would note, the user specifically asked about the fire of the battleships

And then pretty much all the comments from Cape Spartivento he mentions are where the British are specifically talking about the fire of the cruisers...

[ivory ridge]

[chilly osprey]

I haven't seen anything to confirm the GPe have 32 VLS

[chilly osprey]

Ex;

[frigid karma]

where is this from btw?

[spiral cedar]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_for_The_Hague

[delicate beacon]

Rekt

[chilly osprey]

Robert C. Stern's Big Gun Battles

[spiral cedar]

That book’s pretty fun

[ivory ridge]

poomers

[strong plank]

you can't park that there mate

[chilly osprey]

I believe they enforce their own parking rules

[ivory ridge]

the Italian Puma is like

the only 6x6 vehicle that i like aesthetically

probably because it's not too tall like most other

[chilly osprey]

Mmm

[slender meadow]

I discovered why American Fast Battleships are depicted as bunny girls in game

[frigid karma]

Why?

[manic latch]

Leaves

[maiden citrus]

"I've discovered the secret of type III riggings, all you have to do is-"

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1630336132184408064

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

MoH recipient Captain David McCampbell is the U.S. Navy's Ace of Aces, having scored 34 confirmed aerial victories while flying an F6F Hellcat during WWII. He set the U.S. single-mission aerial combat record by shooting down 9 planes during the Battle of Leyte Gulf. #MoHMonday

Twitter · Feb 27, 2023, 10:36 PM

[wary saddle]

Bro was about to reveal the secrets of the universe and then said "nah better not"

[frigid karma]

nsa found him

😔

[shut wren]

"Man found self unalived due to 14 bullet wounds to the back of the spine"

[slender meadow]

Put a picture of admiral Willis Lee and Hugh Hefner together and you’ll learn

[thorn trail]

[frigid karma]

He’s saying Lee looks like the founder of playboy

[spiral cedar]

Does he

This is Ping Pong Playboy Lee

One PT boat Skipper skeptically replied to other torpedo boats in his flotilla.  ‘I say he’s a phony.  Let’s slip the bum a pickle.’  Lee quickly responded with a long, loud string of rabbit profanity before adding.  ‘This is Ping Pong Playboy Lee!  Get the hell out of my way!!’  The PT Boats backed down as Guadalcanal’s reply came over the radio.  ‘This is Cactus.  We recognize you.  Proceed.’```

[frigid karma]

Ah

He told me to put a picture of them together, and to me they didn’t look all that similar

[spiral cedar]

What is it

[shut wren]

I assume Cat girl with AAMs or some shit

[frigid karma]

paveway

[subtle prawn]

https://news.usni.org/2023/02/27/uss-chancellorsville-to-be-renamed-after-former-slave-who-stole-confederate-ship

[slender meadow]

That’s very very very bad luck!!

[frigid karma]

why

Smalls was a gigachad

[slender meadow]

It’s very very bad luck to change a ships name without decommissioning her

[spiral cedar]

They’re going to do that in 2026

So don’t worry

[slender meadow]

But you have no idea how much a bad idea is to change a ships name while it’s still in commissioned

[maiden citrus]

I'll walk under a ladder to present the new name

[frigid karma]

only for the british

and PoW is actively trying to kill herself anyways, so how well is that superstition working out?

[slender meadow]

Well PoW is usually self sabotaging herself all the time including that time against Bismarck

[frigid karma]

that's fair

[chilly osprey]

Smalls is so based he's actually stole a second confederate ship 161 years after he stole his first

[frigid karma]

it miffs me that there's not enough stuff on greek and polynesian sea mythology in AL

[slender meadow]

We need Aussie ships. They were based during the allied counteroffensive against Japan

[frigid karma]

manjuu would rather give us anglo-french ships than anglo-australians

[deep apex]

Manjuu likes moneyyy
Not historyyy

[frigid karma]

they'd get more moneyyy if they pulled their heads out of their asssses and gave us an L2D

[lavish fable]

lol

[lavish fable]

don't give them ideas! XD

[eternal veldt]

Ship renaming is actually quite common, bad luck or not

[lavish fable]

We only have one Essex class that was initially named BHR that got renamed yeah?

[eternal veldt]

A couple Essexs got different names but were rechristened pre-launch

The superstition is that it is a bad omen for a ship to be renamed after it was launched

Similarly, if a champagne bottle didnt break on first hit, it is also considered to be bad luck

Or god forbid, the launch itself failing

As has famously happened to the Cruiser Trento due to sabotage

[desert agate]

RAN never

Shropshire and vampire both in game and not RAN

Even though RAN really deserves to be an independent faction

Given it wasn't the RN trying to hold off the Japanese in 1942

[glass trail]

that one ship whose bottle refused to break 9 times 💀

[junior trench]

Nextington launched herself

and her luck seemed fine

[frigid karma]

As did formidable

[eternal veldt]

Launching herself is still a successful launch

[dapper parcel]

To the point that there's special frangible bottle made for christening now

[eternal veldt]

Even Shinano is technically a successful launch, as fucked as it was

[eternal veldt]

Curent Illinois' bottle needed 3 smashes to break, if I recall. Do with that info as you will.

[frigid karma]

They really need to put some HE filling in those bottles

Doubles as armor test

[dapper parcel]

Do they smash her with rubber on?

[desert agate]

https://twitter.com/scotty_thomo/status/1630448634537074688?s=20
https://twitter.com/scotty_thomo/status/1630448834584387584?s=20
https://twitter.com/scotty_thomo/status/1630449066189668352?s=20
https://twitter.com/scotty_thomo/status/1630449459393081344?s=20
https://twitter.com/scotty_thomo/status/1630449680172855298?s=20

Scott Thompson (@scotty_thomo)

Pictured, are two #WW2 veterans getting reacquainted in the #WhiteHouse #USA🇺🇸
The man on the right is of course, President #JohnFKennedy🇺🇸 the man on the left, Lt. Arthur “Reg” Evans DSC, of the infamous #CoastWatchers🇦🇺 & the man who saved #JFK during the #SWW
1/

Twitter · Feb 28, 2023, 6:03 AM

Scott Thompson (@scotty_thomo)

Getting denied for the Navy at the outbreak of the war, Reg enlisted in the #Australian🇦🇺 2/9 Field REGT & served in the Middle East as a WO2
He transferred to the #RAN after returning to Australia in 1942
He was then chosen to join the coastwatchers, an intelligence agency
2/

Twitter · Feb 28, 2023, 6:04 AM

Scott Thompson (@scotty_thomo)

based in the Pacific Islands. Reg was stationed on #Vanuatu🇻🇺 & the #SolomonIslands🇸🇧 before the war & this local knowledge was felt useful for the work the CW's would undertake
In Aug 1943, he was on Kolombangara Island, when one evening a commotion on the water caught his
3/

Twitter · Feb 28, 2023, 6:05 AM

Scott Thompson (@scotty_thomo)

attention but little was revealed in the darkness
After a message came through from HQ “PT boat 109 lost in action in Blackett Strait. Crew of 12. Request any information". The scouts that were sent out came back with nil info
After relocating Islands, scouts found the lost
4/

Twitter · Feb 28, 2023, 6:06 AM

Scott Thompson (@scotty_thomo)

#Americans🇺🇸 the commander of which scratched a message on a coconut 🥥 husk “Nauro Isl. Commander … Native knows pos’it … He can pilot … 11 alive … need small boat … Kennedy.”
After sending the scouts back with details of his location, they returned with Lt. Kennedy who
5/

Twitter · Feb 28, 2023, 6:07 AM

https://twitter.com/scotty_thomo/status/1630449865280094208?s=20
https://twitter.com/scotty_thomo/status/1630450074097680386?s=20
https://twitter.com/scotty_thomo/status/1630450293556260864?s=20

Scott Thompson (@scotty_thomo)

was hiding under palm leaves in the bottom of the canoe. A relieved Lt. Kennedy was beaming & thoughts remained firmly with getting he & his men rescued, which they arranged & did so later that evening. Reg said of the President "he was a nice bloke." Evans was awarded the
6/

Twitter · Feb 28, 2023, 6:08 AM

Scott Thompson (@scotty_thomo)

Distinguished Service Cross in 1945 for his bravery service on recon ops, discharging from the Navy in 1946: never hearing of or knowing of Lt. Kennedy's fate
In 1961 when #JFK was elected, Reg recognising the president, sent a congratulatory card to the White House, the new
7/

Twitter · Feb 28, 2023, 6:09 AM

Scott Thompson (@scotty_thomo)

President recognising the name & had the handwriting matched.
Reg Evans was invited to the White House & met his old ally, after meeting PT boat veterans in New York city prior
Reg died in 1989, his family donating his private wartime collection to the #AWM a year later
8/

Twitter · Feb 28, 2023, 6:10 AM

[maiden citrus]

epic

[frigid karma]

You’ve got a hole in your fuselage!

[manic latch]

Skysharks are real

[maiden citrus]

forbidden flying hot dog

[lavish fable]

that seems... uhh not idea

[shrewd pecan]

if only it did the same thing with tanks

[dapper parcel]

Imagine requiring both truss member intact to retain structural strength

[manic latch]

Wish there was AMX-13 T-34 too

Someone made a model neat

[delicate beacon]

[delicate beacon]

*checks the interesting archive entrees again*

Reply to my email pls

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/RH_BAES_Land/status/1630498237684613121

RBSL (@RH_BAES_Land)

Happy #TankTuesday

ICYMI: #Challenger3 Demonstrator Turret Structure Delivered to #Telford!

@Pearson_Eng_Ltd and Responsive #Engineering employees reached a major milestone with the delivery of the first-off demonstrator turret to #RBSL.

Read more: https://t.co/nVFjQdAwlD

Twitter · Feb 28, 2023, 9:20 AM

[manic latch]

Sitting there for 32 years

[delicate beacon]

Friedmans Naval AA chapter 11 note 12 is

[remote monolith]

so apparently once the forces there realized they have no chance at resupplying or actually fighting an Allied attack Rabaul turned into a sort of self sufficient fishing and farming community?:

I read that since most of the soldiers there used to be farmers and fishermen they just start a small community and teached their skills to other soldiers while passing the time

[desert agate]

https://fxtwitter.com/MilAvHistory/status/1630579932806914049?s=20

[rapid junco]

Like that?

[frigid karma]

Maka becomes the embodiment of aa when she realized plane fuselages look like hot dog wieners

[manic latch]

Yo Rich

Duguay-Trouin is added to WT

Test server that is

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1630584217208750083

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

#RIP Pearl Harbor survivor Jack Holder who passed away Friday at the age of 101. In 1941, the Texan was on duty at Ford Island Naval Base as a member of PBY Squadron VP-26 when the attack began. He later flew 100 missions and was awarded two Distinguished Flying Cross Medals.

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Twitter · Feb 28, 2023, 3:02 PM

[shut wren]

Tf do u mean

[rapid junco]

@ivory ridge

[slate hatch]

Smol tanks lol

[tough quail]

friend shaped

[shut wren]

I’m fascinated with tanklettes

[desert agate]

tankette

is smol
smol gun
tracked
smol crew

tankette

[slate hatch]

“The worst tank ever” - Random history Youtube video

Makes sense cause of their size and gun

[shut wren]

Love em

[slate hatch]

I myself like the very overrated Tigers and Shermans.

[frigid karma]

What gun

20mm?

Adorable

[desert agate]

2pdr

40mm

[delicate beacon]

Not bad for a tankette

[frigid karma]

That’s 40mm?

I’m blind lol

[desert agate]

you can tell its an australian 2pdr because it has a stepped barrel

british canadian and american 2pdrs used a smooth barrel

[slate hatch]

Maybe they are trying to compensate for something 🤔

[desert agate]

not 100% sure as to why but I believe it's to do with Australia having a nickel shortage in WW2

other countries used nickel in their military grade steel but Australia couldn't so was forced to develop military grade steel without nickel

[slate hatch]

Wow… i never knew about a nickel shortage in ww2

[desert agate]

at the time the vast nickel deposits of WA were entirely unknown

so Australia imported it from overseas which was halted by the war

[slate hatch]

Wow

https://tenor.com/view/the-more-you-know-gif-26317296

[desert agate]

it also was believed up until the late 50s that Australia was very poor in iron ore

[slate hatch]

Dang

Are they though?

[desert agate]

Australia is today the worlds largest exporter of iron ore

and Australian ore has a higher % of iron than any other

[slate hatch]

Incredible

[frigid karma]

Was WA just not really settled a lot?

[desert agate]

yes but also unexplored

[frigid karma]

I have very little knowledge of Australian population distributions

[desert agate]

the technology to actually exploit resources in the area didnt exist either

[slate hatch]

I dont live near it so i dont know much about it

[desert agate]

air conditioning, water pipelines, refridgeration, all required to sustain mines out in the most isolated regions of WA

didnt exist in Australia in commercially viable amounts until the late 40s

Lang Hancock took a plane ride in the Pilbara in 1952 and a storm forced him to low altitude leading to him accidentally finding the worlds largest iron ore deposit

[frigid karma]

Just

[desert agate]

wasn't until the early 60s that it was able to be exploited properly but from there Australian ore would fuel the Korean, Japanese and Chinese economic miracles

[frigid karma]

Sitting on the surface?

[desert agate]

yep

[frigid karma]

[desert agate]

the sand and rocks out there are red for a reason

[frigid karma]

Damn, then really no one must go there

[desert agate]

at the time no one did really

aboriginals, missionaries and a few settlers mainly those trying to escape the law

the area wasnt economically viable, it's too far away for even pastoralists and the scrub has low nutritional value

but yeah all that red is because of a high iron content

[slate hatch]

Red

Fun

[desert agate]

no one went out there and everyone was mostly fine with it
the mid-late 1800s saw WA far too poor to bother with exploring the harsh interior to any serious degree, the late 1800s-early 1900s saw WA invest its time into gold mining which brought a lot of wealth and the period during and just after WW1 saw far too much societal turmoil

some small scale mining started in the interwar years but little further exploration it wasnt until after WW2 that an opportunity properly arose

and there was still the problem that because the government thought there wasn't much iron in Australia, all iron deposits were legally property of the government, explored or otherwise which left little incentive to look for it

took Hancock nearly a decade to start mining his massive iron ore deposit mostly just wrangling with the commonwealth

[tough quail]

on one hand, cool and based f-14

on the other

lol asiatic hordes cope

[shrewd pecan]

To be fair with the scale of Warsaw pact militaries

Being the focus of government investment they were very much a horde

[tough quail]

it's the implication of "oh they have a lot of stuff but its all shit"

that said f-14s are a legit hilarious leap in capability so fair shout

due to its fucking

machine spirit radar

[shrewd pecan]

I mean you had the Soviet units with actual equipment

Then you had most of the Warsaw pact whos primary equipment was BTR-60s, BMP-1s and T-55s

[tough quail]

iirc the soviets pretty much 1:1 out produced the west in contemporary ifvs and mbts, the infinite t-55s are just icing

[shrewd pecan]

yeah but the T-55 was the primary tank of almost every eastern pact army

For both of the major ones in Poland and east Germany

It was thousands upon thousands of T-55s with only a few hundred T-72s

[spring briar]

so noone's gonna comment?

[tough quail]

no its scary

[spring briar]

history chat too jaded

@manic latch

Imperator Alexander II

[manic latch]

Super based

[tough quail]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-us-air-force-is-finally-getting-rid-of-its-a-10s-and-its-focus-may-be-straying-from-the-warthog-s-unique-mission/ar-AA182cmB?ocid=winpstoreapp&cvid=162f8761644b4659818e7ef233f9acdb&ei=10

THE EVIL IS DEFEATED

[manic latch]

Didn't Lockheed Martin replaced Wunderwaffe of Germany

[tough quail]

what

[manic latch]

Now their products are being seen as wonder weapons

Grumman was based to ngl

They did always make solid Carrier planes

[spring briar]

not based, based is not a cool word anymore
the new word is
woob

[manic latch]

Crispy critters

[strong plank]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-lets-goo-lest-gooooooooooooooooo-gif-19416648

[spring briar]

rotund turret

(twelve apostles)

[slate hatch]

[strong plank]

A-10 retired

rip bozo

[spring briar]

Russian navy moment: tightening the straps on your hat

mood

[tough quail]

to be fair in this case its warranted

isnt really a comparable thing to le tomcats turbofucker radar for a hot minute

[manic latch]

Thing is I see Martin getting it alot

While Northrop and Boeing is much less hyped

[spring briar]

me and the bois on Imperator Pavel I

[tough quail]

im gonna be real w/ you im not into jets enough to remember who makes which

i remember it for russian and japanese stuff because its just literally in the designations

[tough quail]

i love the t-posing lad

[manic latch]

Northrop is famous for its bombed like B-2 and B-21. Also the unfortunate YF-23

[strong plank]

Boeing's a bit more lowkey I guess?

[manic latch]

F-15 was bo right

And 18

[strong plank]

f-15 is mcdonnell-douglas

[manic latch]

Ah wait

15E is Boeing

[tough quail]

maxdunalds

[manic latch]

Strike eagle

[strong plank]

Boeing does more like

tankers, awacs, transports

[manic latch]

B-52

Also Apache

[tough quail]

also yeah it takes about 8 years for the soviets to get a comparable superfucker radar plane going so

fair usn W

[spring briar]

funniest funnel placement

[manic latch]

Chad Navarin

[tough quail]

fairchild rolls "worst CAS ever"

asked to leave active us service

[spring briar]

Nikolai I

built by the Franco-Russian works in Saint Petersburg

[tough quail]

yaes

[strong plank]

gradual snail-paced divestment of the A-10 and its consequences

[spring briar]

this picture is so 1890's

[tough quail]

lmfao i keep forgetting A-10s enter service like

in the late 70s

[strong plank]

it's bc congress doesn't want to lose jobs for their states

so you get this like

"ok we'll retire 2 dozen this year"

[tough quail]

tfw the navy puts in a better ground pounder 14 years earlier

intruder stay winning

[spring briar]

what. the. fuck. is. this.

cutieeeeeee

looks like a philly cheesesteak

oh wait it was built in philly

[tough quail]

excellent

[spring briar]

yo

this is a picture from 1895

from the battle of Yalu river

[tough quail]

👀

[spring briar]

Unebi

ordered from France by Japan

but sank in a storm before reaching Japan

[slate hatch]

Did you know

[deep apex]

Yes I did

[slate hatch]

Norway savage confirmed

Very Savage 10/10

[frigid karma]

Praise the crop duster

[slate hatch]

Wonder who created Fanta

[tough quail]

crop duster always win

[spring briar]

What about Henri IV

[tough quail]

i enjoy

[frigid karma]

HIV

[spring briar]

hey it's

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmkMb44rNCo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQn4w9brgyA

[spring briar]

hey historical commentator, can you please tell me what's on this picture?

thank you historical commentator

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8csYNXtJgbc

[tough quail]

they shot it

[strong plank]

Didn’t the rebel alliance build one of those on Hoth

[shut wren]

IIRC The Nazi's before WW2 when Coca cola Pulled out

[slate hatch]

Fanta make Panzer go vvvvrrrrrtttt

[rapid junco]

The Brazilian Army had a more complicated name for them (the CV-35)

Instead of tankettes
They called them "Auto metralhadora de reconhecimento"

The best translation i got is
"Self Propelled reconnaissance machine gun"

[shut wren]

[echo fjord]

Is this a good place to ask about historical elements mixed into character design in AzurLane?

[spiral cedar]

Yes

[frigid karma]

That was more a thing of the past

Modern shipgirl designs imo look way too much like magical girls than the ship, and rigging attention has gone down

[shut wren]

They all look the same

[tough quail]

dont let the mald dissuade you

[shut wren]

[eternal veldt]

Some people still give decent attention to shipgirls' riggings

Others, less so

Carriers are especially victims because when in doubt, use printed toilet paper scrolls as flight deck

It's foolproof and effective, at the cost of "mecha"

[frigid karma]

What was your view on yt2’s rigging, again?

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/RoyalCanNavy/status/1630718689937879040
https://twitter.com/RoyalCanNavy/status/1630718694681718785

Royal Canadian Navy (@RoyalCanNavy)

Happiest of birthdays to our @Australian_Navy shipmates! ⚓🇦🇺🎂

Can barely tell you're over 100 years old... what's your secret?

Twitter · Feb 28, 2023, 11:56 PM

Royal Canadian Navy (@RoyalCanNavy)

From front to back: #HMASAnzac, #HMCSCalgary, Japanese AKEBONO and #HMASSirius conduct manoeuvers during a pass exercise during #OpPROJECTION in the Indian Ocean, 8 April, 2021

Twitter · Feb 28, 2023, 11:56 PM

[echo fjord]

Ok then, here's my question. Can anyone point out any historical detail about Argus? She do be a hidden UR

I just wonder if there's anything besides em...''Top heavy''

[frigid karma]

Hidden UR in terms of what

[echo fjord]

She just looks good, plus a few people started to joke she's a ''hidden ur''

[frigid karma]

I mean she looks good but I wouldn’t say she’s best design of this event

As for hidden UR, it must be pretty well hidden because it sure ain’t her stats or skills

AFAIK she doesn’t have any visual historical details but references her namesake

[eternal veldt]

Bad, when you consider that SCB-27A/C never removed the wooden flight decks, and then or later only received steel beam braces.

More importantly, the signature deck edge elevator is...incredibly small.

[deep apex]

I've never cared for rigging personally

[echo fjord]

It's not that ''hidden ur'' is an actual feature. People just joke she could be UR

[echo fjord]

Ah I see

[delicate beacon]

Heretic

[eternal veldt]

When AL literally emphasizes on badonkers, its not too surprising

Including the damn cow

[deep apex]

As much as I'm here for history

I'm also here for booba

[maiden citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[deep apex]

mostly booba

Anyway

[frigid karma]

booba riggings

[frigid karma]

this looks like ai art

[slate hatch]

I myself prefer personalities over looks

[lavish fable]

[frigid karma]

handlebar mustache drone

aussie F4UB

[shut wren]

It look like it gotta Cockpit

[rapid junco]

Ngl
That could be used by some clickbaity defence channels

Just i saw one using a Jadgtiger on a thumbnail about the
"Brazilian thermobaric bomb"
Or something on that sort

[frigid karma]

I mean that is a real drone

[rapid junco]

I know i know

I didn't know in fact

I just said the aesthetics of the image reminds me of some of those channels

[frigid karma]

been trying to find info on the IKV 103's 105mm, but cant find anything

anyone got some pointers?

[hearty fulcrum]

Ace combat 7 looking ass

[desert agate]

Avalon has been spicy this year

[desert agate]

Last Avalon was all about integration and communication this Avalon is all about unmanned capabilities

[frigid karma]

and that's how shikikan got his job

[maiden citrus]

true

I had a pokemon oc first, now it all makes sense

[frigid karma]

maka starting gangs to drive out enemy pokemon go teams

[scarlet ledge]

vietnamese officers inspect a tiran-5sh in israel

[lavish fable]

Aw hell yeah!

[manic latch]

https://www.varesenews.it/2023/03/leonardo-firma-con-laustralia-dalle-linee-di-vergiate-due-elicotteri-aw139-a-toll-helicopters/1557776/

2 more AW-139 for Australia

[desert agate]

excuse me what

ooh right the trainer helicopters

theres one at RAAF Pearce I've seen flying around a fair bit

forgot we contract out our trainer helis

[slate hatch]

More like

“Ever wanted a ship Waifu?”

[desert agate]

https://twitter.com/WestApproaches/status/1630945256559525893?s=20

Western Approaches HQ (@WestApproaches)

This looks like a Grumman Martlet with the very British addition of an umbrella.

Twitter · Mar 1, 2023, 2:57 PM

[manic latch]

@spring briar

What ship is at background

....I think it's a Des Moines

Smol but cute radar on top of turret
Ladders between barrels
Door at side of turret

[shrewd pecan]

It has the Iowa state flag on it by the looks of it as well

[manic latch]

Oh yeah and "the rings" under barrels for shell ejection

[shrewd pecan]

Tho I could be wrong

[manic latch]

Weird thing is this guy is coming as French captain irrc. So it's weird they use Des Moines and background

[shrewd pecan]

Just looks like it has some type of symbol in the middle of the flag

oh there meant to be the French background?

ok it’s probably just the French flag then

[manic latch]

Yeah Pre order bonus

I wonder if Des Moines and Duguay Trouin ever met

[shut wren]

Bozos be spending 30 on a boat

[desert agate]

I bought Haruna

I regret nothing

[shut wren]

What is that

[frigid karma]

A gaijin abomination

[thorn trail]

One question: Why do some pics of British BBs and BCs have this cover on top of their decks

[desert agate]

It's not exclusively a British thing all nations did it

Its basically a sun shade for the crew

It allows the crew to go about their duties on deck without being turned pink from the sun

[thorn trail]

Oh since I've mostly seen it on British capital ships

These are removed in battle sorties right?

[desert agate]

USS Colorado here

[desert agate]

Yeah usually they aren't put up at all in war time unless there's very little likelihood of action

[thorn trail]

Wait I wonder why in the pic of Repulse the entire front deck is covered including the turret while in here the sunshade is interrupted by the lower turret

[desert agate]

It's just how they did it I suppose

The Brits probably wanted their crews doing more more on more deck space

While the Americans didn't need as much space for the crews

Colorado A turret is probably a lot taller than on Repulse too

So that might make it harder to physically put the shades up

[thorn trail]

Wait speaking of turrets, what battleship had physically the tallest turrets?

[frigid karma]

Probably Yamato

[manic latch]

You mean like

Turret's height or also counting ship's deck height?

[thorn trail]

turret height only

[manic latch]

No barbette or with?

[thorn trail]

not including barbette

[manic latch]

Hmm

[manic latch]

I say Virginia class

[thorn trail]

oh the one with 8in guns on top of the 12in

[manic latch]

Yep

The superposed turret

[spring briar]

Weird

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1630955701181767680

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

King Neptune was a pig used to promote the sale of war bonds to fund the construction of the Iowa-class battleship USS Illinois. Wearing a blue Navy blanket, the pig was repeatedly "auctioned" to raise $19 million. WWII ended before the Illinois was completed. #NationalPigDay

Twitter · Mar 1, 2023, 3:38 PM

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/saudi-british-defence-ministers-sign-agreement-riyadhs-participation-fcas-spa-2023-03-01/

[tribal mortar]

implacable's first attack skill, does it refer to a ww2 general who said "may god have mercy on their soul for i wont"?

[frigid karma]

It’s kind of just a general threat

[subtle prawn]

Kind of a meme as well

[tribal mortar]

wait what

[ivory ridge]

What the hell is that JP name even

[tribal mortar]

try the chinese one

nvm

now i want to know if that name for the skill is a history refers or not

[frigid karma]

No

It’s a meme reference

[tribal mortar]

oh

[ivory ridge]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_God_Forgive_You..._But_I_Won%27t

[tribal mortar]

okay that makes alot more sence

[frigid karma]

Possibly true but manjuu hates Italy too much for this to be possible

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1034644687878881340/1061709461984641236/1990ABA8-B834-43BB-BB1E-9FF14E7FFA9A-1.gif

[ivory ridge]

That's why it's on a br*tish ship

[manic latch]

Rolls-Royce has begun testing F130 engines for the United States Air Force B-52 fleet at the NASA Stennis Space Center

[tough quail]

A-10s are kill

you fuckers are next

[frigid karma]

Good luck retiring the ones already on Mars

[shrewd pecan]

sorry

B-52 forever

[shrewd pecan]

A-10s belong in a Museum!

[manic latch]

Shouldnt be complaining about furry when literally called hog

[shrewd pecan]

that or as drones

[frigid karma]

Suicide bombers, perhaps?

The enemy can’t resist shooting at them

[shrewd pecan]

its a A-10 but you aren't risking pilots

[frigid karma]

Well

What about the civilians

[ivory ridge]

A what

[strong plank]

I think you mean

[manic latch]

So what actually point of drone turned planes

China also has some

[shrewd pecan]

many things

ranging from target practice

[strong plank]

Target practice

[shrewd pecan]

to actual combat use

[frigid karma]

I mean we’ve had plane to drones for a really

Long time

[shrewd pecan]

using them as loyal wingmen could be a interesting use

[manic latch]

First one was B-17 right

[manic latch]

Drone F-22

[strong plank]

I mean target drones go back to ww2

[manic latch]

No this B-17 was for kamikaze irrc

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Aphrodite

Here it is

Radio-controlled aircraft as guided missiles

The plan called for B-17E/Fs that had been taken out of operational service (various nicknames existed such as "robot", "baby", "drone" or "weary Willy") to be loaded to capacity with explosives, and flown by radio control into bomb-resistant fortifications such as German U-boat pens and V-weapon sites

[frigid karma]

Weren’t there drones before ww2?

[manic latch]

The Aerial Target, a British radio-controlled aircraft from the First World War. Its remote control components, which were designed by Dr Archibald Low, are part of IWM's collection (see AIR 567 to AIR 571). It became the first drone to fly under control when it was tested in March 1917.

Damn there was

[frigid karma]

In what is perhaps the best-known example of the state of Britain's pre-war anti-aircraft capability, in a 1937 firing exercise, a radio-controlled Queen Bee drone, a converted Tiger Moth, was able to fly straight and level at 85 knots around the entire Mediterranean Fleet for over an hour without being hit by a single shell.

[tough quail]

stop it

taking the guy out of it doesn't make it less of a useless waste of money

[shrewd pecan]

in terms of a battlefield asset

[shrewd pecan]

AAAAAA

[tough quail]

dude or not it's bloated SAM bait

cease

[shrewd pecan]

its better than something like a MQ-9 for the strike load

horse that is literally

every drone

that isn't the top secret ones

[tough quail]

most drones dont cost as much to keep hobbled together like huge ancient A-10s

[shrewd pecan]

I mean its going to have more significant operating cost but you also get more strike capability than the other drones for that cost

I'm just in the mindset if the things going to stay the drone A-10 is the most practical way of doing that

since you aren't risking the far more expensive pilots in the 70s titanium death tub

all you'd need is the enlist weapon systems operator and the pilot from there

👁️ was honestly surprised to learn drone camera operators were enlisted

[tough quail]

slam them into the nearest convenient landfill and use the money and man hours on producing good drones and CAS

[shrewd pecan]

I mean that's what's likely happening

we're probably eventually gonna see what's going on with the MQ-10 avengers as well

[strong plank]

Counterpoint horse

as drones they can be used for riskier missions

meaning there’s a higher chance they don’t come back

[frigid karma]

Is the a-10’s spirit so vengeful it will haunt you after death if you scrap it

And you have to yolo it into the nearest asm to purge it

[shrewd pecan]

asm?

it can only be killed by anti ship missiles

neptunes newest hunt!

[frigid karma]

Titanium bathtub moment

[tough quail]

as long as they die im good

nothing drives me up the wall like the US with its infinite superpower moner and r&d constantly bodging ancient garbage together with duct tape upgraded and pretending its actually good

[shrewd pecan]

I mean

[manic latch]

They know they would accidently create another money black hole as a potential replacement

[shrewd pecan]

that is literally what everyone is doing right now

you have China still maintaining its J-7 fleet

[strong plank]

use 'em as drones for wild weasel missions

[shrewd pecan]

and you have plenty of ancient Su-27s, MIG-29s and other shit sitting around world wide

[strong plank]

no need to use a drone that mimics a plane

if you use a drone that is a plane

[shrewd pecan]

🤨 like I agree the A-10s is a waste of the budget

but we aren't the only ones holding onto legacy aircraft in large numbers

[manic latch]

A-10 engine upgrade proposal was refused in 2000s

[shrewd pecan]

probably because it wasn't worth it

when all it needed to be was a bomb truck for the GWOT

and now the GWOT is massively phasing down

[manic latch]

Pilot always complained about its power tho

[tough quail]

see theres a slight difference in that mig-29s werent like

[shrewd pecan]

like if I can say anything about the a-10 it got the job done

[tough quail]

borderline obsolescent on introduction

and got dramatically more extensive upgrades

iirc a-10s cant even carry hellfires

which is comedy

[shrewd pecan]

why would it?

when it has mavericks

hellfires don't really work well on aircraft that aren't gonna be either circling or hovering near the target

since they need either a constant laze or radar guidance

vs the lastest mavericks which are just F&F

[manic latch]

F16 also use mavs

[tough quail]

havent there been fire and forget hellfires for a while now

[manic latch]

Isn't hell fire always laser

[shrewd pecan]

the radar ones still need a radar lock from the AH-64Ds radar

[tough quail]

goofy

[ivory ridge]

long🅱️ow

[manic latch]

Yeah it's never fire and forget

US always surprises me

[ivory ridge]

i meant they are currently testing uber spikes

with insane ranges

[manic latch]

They can afford doing amazing upgrades but they usually dont

[shrewd pecan]

tho

once the missiles fire

they have their own radar seeker

[strong plank]

I mean the A-10s retirement now makes sense

[manic latch]

Was that called SARH

[shrewd pecan]

the longbow hellfires

are active radar homing

they just need

[strong plank]

there's not just the higher costs

[shrewd pecan]

a initial radar lock like the AMRAAM or any other ARH

[strong plank]

but it also makes sense with the type of battlefield the pentagon's trying to prepare for

[shrewd pecan]

and uhhhh

the A-10 does not have a radar

[manic latch]

Long range or islands?

[strong plank]

islands and greater distribution of forces

[shrewd pecan]

vs the Maverick which has a similar guidance system to the javelin for the most recent variants

[strong plank]

if you've got forces operating off of smaller, more austere outposts in the pacific

it's a little hard to see where something like the A-10 would fit in

[shrewd pecan]

tho JAGM is gonna be collapsing both missiles into one

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1631039985468989440

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

USS Saratoga is probably the only warship to have a pink head. The startling pink bathroom was the result of crewmen applying a coat of white paint before the red primer was dry. Navy regs authorized light pastel colors, so the head was left pink for a few years #WarshipWednesday

Twitter · Mar 1, 2023, 9:13 PM

[manic latch]

Was that a mofo AL reference

[tough quail]

it never really fit in to begin with tbh

it slots into this weird niche between something like a strike eagle and Just An Actual Helicopter™️ that

only sort of exists

and wasn't good at it

[shrewd pecan]

eh I just remembered

[tough quail]

(which makes sense as it literally exists as chair force cope to helicopters being good)

[shrewd pecan]

there was that dumb Su-25 upgrade with R-77s

tho the SU-25 actually has a radar

[tough quail]

it do

[manic latch]

Su-25T also had Vikhr

[shrewd pecan]

if I had a time machine

[manic latch]

Su-25KM can use R-73

[shrewd pecan]

the entire KA-50 and Vikhr design teams would be dead purely for its existence in warthunder

[manic latch]

Mi-28 team: Thank you

[shrewd pecan]

the Mi-28 can stay

[shut wren]

the FBI be like:shit we almost got him

[manic latch]

[shrewd pecan]

anyways

yeah Su-25 can use the VIkhr

in terms of the A-10 I don't really see the point in hellfire on it

when it has not only laser guided mavericks alongside the F&F ones

[shut wren]

Catch me up what we talking bout

[tough quail]

i honestly just keep forgetting it doesnt have a radar

[shrewd pecan]

combined with the wide options of paveways and other laser guided bombs

[tough quail]

because it astounds me how mid it is compared to a froggo

and even frogs are

jank

[shrewd pecan]

both are just

[manic latch]

Su-25SM likely will be strongest

[shrewd pecan]

leftovers that belong in scrap yards or museums

that somehow keep getting pressed into frontline service

[tough quail]

just do the flanker/eagle thing and just make jet

wide

and put more bomb

[shut wren]

Who comes up with these nicknames for the shit we give to the Planes and choppas

[shrewd pecan]

just to become fighter/SAM bait

[shut wren]

like grach

or

warthoug

[shrewd pecan]

that or the occassional Su-25 v Su-25 dogfight we keep getting

[manic latch]

Nato or Soviet/Russians

Or it's owners

[shut wren]

In WT or?

[shrewd pecan]

🤨 I swear the Su-25 at this point is the aircraft that has the most kills against itself

[manic latch]

Sigh

[shrewd pecan]

irl

I'm not talking about war thunder

[shut wren]

mb

[shrewd pecan]

I mentioned it once purely for my hatred of the KA-50 platform

[shut wren]

Remind me to buy it later

[shrewd pecan]

MPAT on the way

anywho

[manic latch]

There is a Su-25 replacement program but

Like why

Shouldn't Su-34 just replace 24 and 25

[shut wren]

They cant build enough of em because ya know

[tough quail]

there's a bunch of russian dudes absolutely obsessed with making a clean break and replacing anything soviet

its goofy

[shrewd pecan]

Su-25 and A-10 mission set should honestly just

go to dedicated drone replacements

[strong plank]

nah

cropduster of doom

[shrewd pecan]

Su-24 should just go to the chopping block

[manic latch]

Bro predator does cost 40 million $ how did you make that drone so expensive

[shrewd pecan]

that's the cost

for a entire station

and like

4 drones

[shut wren]

We strap a ton of tech n shit on it

[shrewd pecan]

every time I check the USAF's price on this shit

its for a drone station

[manic latch]

I can buy 1 F35 for for 8 drones?

[shrewd pecan]

and 3 drones

[strong plank]

they're big drones

[shut wren]

But they big boi drones

[tough quail]

you know su-25s

literally arent in production

[shut wren]

Ja they stop building em

[ivory ridge]

but they also havent upgraded many

[shrewd pecan]

https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/104470/mq-9-reaper/

[manic latch]

[shrewd pecan]

also MQ-9 price is going up since it isn't being used just to point a fancy camera at shit that much anymore

[shut wren]

I though the MQ-9 was a missile

[shrewd pecan]

there strapping jammers, new sensors

all types of shit on it

[manic latch]

2000s was it's golden age

[shrewd pecan]

as a multimission platform

[manic latch]

Or was it 2010s

[shrewd pecan]

2010s since it didn't show up until 2009

[manic latch]

Yeah mb

[shrewd pecan]

in terms of peer on peer conflict

MQ-9 and MQ-1Cs are mainly gonna be jamming/intelligence/communication node platforms

you aren't gonna be seeing many of the GWOT hellfire strikes

since there extremely vulnerable

[shut wren]

What the hell si a "GWOT"

[shrewd pecan]

GLOBAL

WAR

ON

TERROR

[shut wren]

mb

[shrewd pecan]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_MQ-20_Avenger

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_Mojave

in terms of the combat drones

there's new ones on the block

including the new Hellfire bus

[shut wren]

It just looks like they strapped a air intake on it

the MQ 20

[shrewd pecan]

its a low RCS drone with a internal bomb bay that we know there doing something with

just unsure what it is

[shut wren]

[spiral cedar]

https://kk-kz.facebook.com/64229656925/videos/641891520317187/?__so__=permalink

(I don’t know why the language setting is weird)

[subtle prawn]

https://news.usni.org/2023/03/01/virginia-attack-boat-ssn-808-to-be-named-for-former-navy-secretary-john-dalton

[ivory ridge]

https://twitter.com/vodk_anon/status/1630941819386077184?t=CyigohTyoxotgw_yxn7xzA&s=19

Vodka 🧊 (@vodk_anon)

Land-based Destroyer

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Twitter · Mar 1, 2023, 2:43 PM

[shrewd pecan]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1631075489669341184

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

It's #NationalPigDay! Dating back to the early 60s, a prank played by carriers in the Mediterranean was to surprise their relieving carrier by releasing greased pigs on the flight deck. This 1986 video is of a helicopter from USS America dropping off pigs on USS John F. Kennedy.

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Twitter · Mar 1, 2023, 11:34 PM

[strong plank]

I see your aegis ashore and I raise you, aegis aroof

[fervent quiver]

Any Sabaton fans

[frigid karma]

by lindemann only

🥱

[spiral cedar]

Anyone who's looked at the German sources knows that the second image there is wrong

[frigid karma]

there's a strange fascination with wehraboos wanting to portray bismarck as a male

[scarlet ledge]

L of incredible proportions

[shut wren]

Excuse me what

[scarlet ledge]

🤭

oopsy

[shut wren]

Literally skill issue

Train pilots more

[fervent quiver]

Forgot to mention 292 days till the end of the battle of Verdun

[desert agate]

Far too slow for that

[shrewd pecan]

I wasn't referring to the A-10

I was referring to the prospect of using crap like the F-16 for it

[desert agate]

Oh

My b

I just woke up I'm tired aight

[shrewd pecan]

its ok

[frigid karma]

anyone got info on ikv 103's 105mm?

cant find shit

[shrewd pecan]

probably my favorite engagement of the Arab Israeli wars

Israelis had drones flying over Syrian airbases so they knew whenever they'd take off

from there once Syrian aircraft flew passed a certain line Israeli E-2s would vector F-16s and F-15s on the Syrians to shoot them down while F-4s and other aircraft did the SEAD work

[desert agate]

https://twitter.com/SubBrief/status/1630937868523778048?s=20

SubBrief (@SubBrief)

Congress confirms the wildly expensive and useless LCS program was PSYOP to get China to waste Trillions building their own. Well played, Navy. Well played. #5head

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Twitter · Mar 1, 2023, 2:27 PM

[cinder escarp]

we aren't sending our best

(That trimaran was an IDEX 2017 proposal for export customers)

[manic latch]

Speaking of odd missile placements

Say why "gear pylons" of Japan's proposed F-16 failed

You know the pylons that's attached to gear bay

[shrewd pecan]

No idea

Probably clearance issues

[manic latch]

Ok what about

Why there is no above wing pylons?

I think British tried it before

[scarlet ledge]

the KV-4 proposals are fucking awesome

they look like the tanks a 7 year old would draw

wish they had one of these in kubinka

there's so much goofy shit i wish the soviets had built

Obj. 277 is slick as hell

apparently got 19.82hp/ton and a max speed of 55kmh

[dapper parcel]

Incomprehensive mumbles in French

Above wing airflow is much more critical

[manic latch]

Ah the super T-10

[manic latch]

[manic latch]

Spon and Tato gonna love this

[shrewd pecan]

saw it before

instrument flying in a nuclear conflict

[remote monolith]

@maiden citrus https://twitter.com/AppleTVPlus/status/1631167516583120898?t=AGFGW5ZLUOdNzHpha1Epaw&s=19

Apple TV+ (@AppleTVPlus)

New dinosaurs. New habitats. New season. #PrehistoricPlanet returns May 22.

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Twitter · Mar 2, 2023, 5:40 AM

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[maiden citrus]

season 2 pogger

[slate hatch]

WHAT?!

[ivory ridge]

it's latin

[strong plank]

cum is latin for ‘with’

[slate hatch]

cum

[tough quail]

haha semen round

[manic latch]

Do you love the Object 490

War thunder is massively lucky Soviets never build it but as wooden scale model

that didn't stop Coelian but

Unique looking beauty

152mm autoloader gun, 2000hp engine that makes it go very fast, and uhh 2000mm of RHAe to 4500mm of RHAe. As frontal armor

[manic latch]

crew is at all the way back

[tough quail]

yeah im aware of the funny turbo wedge

[shut wren]

CAS people be like

[manic latch]

If they wish to be revenge killed by Pantsir

[shut wren]

Gonna take a while after it’s added for people to get it

[shrewd pecan]

no

they'll get it almost immediately with how quickly people grind WT

beyond that meh

CAS pilots will adapt like they always do

also beyond the multi track capability pantsir doesn't really seem all that special ingame

[slate hatch]

I grind

But slow sadly

[shrewd pecan]

there's plenty of people who will no fly the game for like a few days and get the newest thing almost immediately

[slate hatch]

I cant

[shrewd pecan]

good

[slate hatch]

Its not

Im fighting people with better stuff than me 24/7

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1631355665460387847
https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1631355667142303762

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

#OTD in 1991, four different generations of aircraft carriers from Battle Force Zulu steamed in formation after the cease-fire that ended Operation Desert Storm: USS Midway (CV-41), USS Ranger (CV-61), USS America (CV-66) and USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN-71).

Twitter · Mar 2, 2023, 6:07 PM

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

Of the four carriers, only USS Theodore Roosevelt remains in service. USS America was scuttled as part of a weapons test, USS Ranger was scrapped, and USS Midway is now a museum.

Twitter · Mar 2, 2023, 6:07 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fLBK-hGmcs

[shut wren]

Buy it with GE

I mean

You can use GE to boost research

And buy it

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1631337317045608466

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

#OTD in 1990, THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER premiered. The film was based on the Tom Clancy novel published by @USNIBooks. The Naval Institute had never published original fiction but decided to take a chance on the unknown Clancy who was working as an insurance agent at the time.

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Twitter · Mar 2, 2023, 4:54 PM

[tribal mortar]

have the steelbook

[spiral cedar]

@chilly osprey You have the source for this lying around? Or know where to find it

https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/163946-what-are-the-advantages-of-the-clevelandfargo-classes-over-previous-classes/

[chilly osprey]

You can disregard that

It was based off an assumption made on the HP ratings of the motors for the ammunition hoists in the Brooklyn versus Cleveland-class, but I've had some discussions since then on the topic and there's really no evidence to support that there was a real difference in delivery rate going from the 15 HP motors to the 20 HP motors.

I wish I could point you in the direction of those conversations, but, it was on reddit, and their search function is ass

[spiral cedar]

Alright

[subtle prawn]

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/cruise-missiles-could-get-added-to-mq-9s-arsenal

[delicate beacon]

Where do I find someone willing to go Tyne and Wear archives.

[shrewd pecan]

Anti poaching

[shut wren]

Sooo

Poaching the poachers?

[shrewd pecan]

yes

[subtle sandal]

Yes

[strong plank]

Saw some Strykers today

[shrewd pecan]

my air defense friend is currently getting qualified on the Stryker SHORADs

[strong plank]

nice

[shut wren]

It looks like a BTR

[strong plank]

Myself and some classmates got a tour of the Ordnance school at Fort Lee, and they took us into the Stryker and wheeled vehicle bays

Didn’t get to see the armor collection though, which is a little sad

[shut wren]

Lucky

all our school gets is Police when some dumbass says some dumbshit online

[strong plank]

College students