history

[frigid karma]

Maybe it’s expected to work in tandem with future sixth generation ngad

[tough quail]

maybe

[frigid karma]

And thus is dubbed sixth gen

[shut wren]

[frigid karma]

Typically I’ve only heard the term x th generation “fighter”

[tough quail]

like dont get me wrong the thing is obviously gr8, just like the b-2 was

but man

slow the role down there

[frigid karma]

Not aircraft

[shut wren]

[tough quail]

yeah same

which is why it blindsided me

[frigid karma]

Horse, you play wt air?

[shut wren]

Realistic or arcade?

[frigid karma]

Anyways, I brought this up bc hornet 2’s mascot has planes with these

[shut wren]

Cool

[frigid karma]

I should check which CVs in AL match

[tough quail]

occasionally

[shut wren]

You tank main or air main?

[tough quail]

i did end up buying froggo, because

Im me

usually tonks

[shut wren]

Which country do you main in

[shut wren]

What’s the froggo haven’t heard that nickname

[tough quail]

su-25, frogfoot

mostly stick with the soviets, then the french, then the brits

[shut wren]

I see

Soviet main too

I have the Mig-17AS

And IS-6

I’m trying to grind the IS tanks and finish bringing the rest of my air tree up to 8.0

[spring briar]

does this count as history?

[shut wren]

How’s the Mig-9 late?

[tough quail]

haven't played it yet tbh, im waaay higher in tonks - i just got the premium su-25 to burn through the air tree. fortunately i've actually gone positive instead of eating shit like most premium players

finished most of the tank tree though

[shut wren]

Rush the La-5s they are too good

And the I-185s

Shvaks rip everything

[tough quail]

Aye

im up to the t-80u/t-90a atm, and trying to unlazy myself to get the bvm

[shut wren]

At the T-34-85s atm

I’m working on Spaags and China tree

[tough quail]

[shut wren]

The PE-8 is a bias machine bruh

I tried taking it down with a La-5 and mf took All 340 rounds

[rapid junco]

Well
Got myself a new myself new mission
Try to convince the Brazilian Naval Attaché at England and/or Brazilian Ambassador at London to be present at Armistice day homage

Context

[ivory ridge]

good luck

[spring briar]

Pls save Sao Paulo

[frigid karma]

Kidnap her

[maiden citrus]

confirmed the NX class is gen 6

[delicate beacon]

No reply within the first workday

Is it going to be the same as Visje from Netherlandsnavy

[rapid junco]

I'm afraid i can do nothing

She'll have the same fate of her Dreadnought predecessor
Although, in a forced manner

[rapid junco]

Further context https://sussexhistory.net/2018/09/05/a-brazilian-war-grave-in-sussex/

I even commented in there
I'm surprised how common two misconceptions happen

1. The "13 officers" list
   And 2)How often people use the picture of Lieutenant Fileto to portrait Lieutenant Possolo

[frigid karma]

NX?

The Nintendo switch is a 6th generation fighter?

[shut wren]

[Insert image of stealth flying nintendo Switches]

[subtle prawn]

https://news.usni.org/2023/01/31/navy-destroyer-modernization-program-could-cost-17b-take-up-to-2-years-per-hull

[lime belfry]

damn Hornet chan design in carrier con looks.... relatively good

gonna tell my buddy there to check that out

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/thef35/status/1619002294539894784

F-35 Lightning II (@thef35)

F-35s, as far as the eyes can see 👀

Likes

12072

Retweets

1001

Twitter · Jan 27, 2023, 4:00 PM

[strong plank]

This is『Requiem』

[manic latch]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/feb/01/royal-navy-orders-investigation-into-nuclear-submarine-repaired-with-glue

[frigid karma]

The bolt heads originally came off due to over-tightening. But, rather than replacing the damaged shafts, staff at the defence contractor Babcock implemented a quick fix and glued them back on.

👀

guess he just got back from sniffing it

[subtle prawn]

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/new-anti-ship-land-attack-missiles-fitted-to-british-frigate/

[junior trench]

lol

they're not

the only thing has been done is removing the old Harpoon racks

the UK orders for NSM are so late compared to other customers they might not seem them until 2030

[manic latch]

So they won't retire Harpoons this year?

[junior trench]

they're removing the harpoon racks

[manic latch]

Vietnam War traps

[tough quail]

ALL of your flesh

you are now a skellington

[native dew]

Hello

[zealous vine]

KGV or Nelson looks-wise

[manic latch]

KGV of course

[zealous vine]

[delicate beacon]

KGV from afar.
Nelson is dope when you're on the bridge or close to the guns though

[maiden citrus]

nelson

it's charming

[rapid junco]

He ended up using the pictures i sent him

[eternal veldt]

Forecastle, you mean.

[delicate beacon]

I think that's included in close to the guns

[eternal veldt]

eh, fair enough

The unique appearance of Nelson and Rodney was never equalled in any other contemporary capital
ship – British or foreign. Many thought them extremely ugly, and they received derisory nicknames:
‘Rodol’ and ‘Nelsol’ (after oil tankers); ‘the pair of boots’ – the right and left boots of the Second
Battle Squadron – ‘the ugly sisters’ or ‘the Cherry Tree class’ (i.e., cut-down versions from
Washington Naval Treaty). Yet they were generally conceded to be the most impressive-looking
British battleships of their day, with a menacing appearance of fighting efficiency seldom, if ever,
equalled in any other battleship. One of her officers said of her, ‘I challenge anyone to stand on her
fo’c’s’le and not feel a definite tingle of pride and fear’ – certainly a general feeling that was
promulgated by the media.

[cinder escarp]

Also in general a better design than KGV. Shame about the shells and never getting a super refit.

[delicate beacon]

The Nelsons were true "battleships" that complemented Hood well.
KGV are just more all around.

[cinder escarp]

It's just outside of say her gun battery, KGV was such a conservative design

It's very much "we haven't worked on a battleship design in a long time and we want no funnies"

[cinder escarp]

It's very funny that the RN studies leading up to N3, G3, and ultimately Nelsol were extremely innovative and far thinking in design and concepts. But KGV nearly 20 years later is very conservative. (Admittedly, the 1920s and most of the 30s were very hard on the RN's design department. Huge staff losses to the point they couldn't even design more than one new big gun at a time.)

[alpine onyx]

KGV all the way

And someone tell Nelson to not wear that short skirt, someone might slip a shell under there

[frigid karma]

https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/general-news/waterline-winter-2023/

@maiden citrus wv44 finally

[lavish fable]

Tromp came first and it got nerfed to sh**

[frigid karma]

Tromp calls air strikes

Hybrid DDs LAUNCH planes

Directly

Also tromp is fairly decent

[lavish fable]

Trust me as someone who's played it... it's not...

[frigid karma]

Maybe it’s not for you then

[lavish fable]

Airstrikes are kinda poo now, guns are okay but there's better gun botes

[frigid karma]

And anyways tromp is not the first hybrid dd

[lavish fable]

Okay sure, shouldn't need hybrid DDs though, guess there's too many people complaining about getting shot as a CV for bad positioning

Same with hybrid BBs

[tough quail]

it's not about "needing" them, it's just variety

[cinder escarp]

They're gonna put every gibbs and cox soviet napkinwaffe in the game at some point

[tough quail]

as god intended

[frigid karma]

We already have one

[alpine onyx]

It wasn't a question of if, but when

People been asking for catapult Fletcher for ages

[tough quail]

like me, because it's based

also Illinois kinda-buffs

[lavish fable]

Illinois has literally become an Annapolis at T9 for money

[tough quail]

slight difference between a 9s reload and a 5.5s reload

[manic latch]

Say

It says first hybrid destroyer

So there will be more

[lavish fable]

Makes up for being practically not cit'able

[tough quail]

yeah

if she had the regular Des Moines reload she'd need to be like

t13

[lavish fable]

Yeah.. wg making the game more potato proof by the day. The new pan america cruisers have a equipment reload booster which means you can cut your radar reload down by 80% for 30 seconds more or less meaning a 40 second-ish radar then possibly another one in 30 seconds because idk people complaining about not being able to kill a dd in 40 seconds with he

[frigid karma]

Illinois is just overweight Buffalo

Not exactly op or shit

[lavish fable]

I've seen 4 team mates try to take one down they failed and got focused down by other ships

This ship is literally the American version of a Russian BB where you can only burn it down

[tough quail]

... Russian BBs are easier to cit tho

iirc Illinois just has the usual Iowa hull with some hp lopped off in the latest update

[humble mulch]

[lavish fable]

Yeah.. harder to kill if you can't cit.. Russian BBs you mostly burn down seems it'll be the same for Illinois

[frigid karma]

Oi no more wows in here

[tough quail]

eh teas stinky

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1620843917041373187

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

#OTD in 2003, the Space Shuttle Columbia broke apart during re-entry. The crew consisting of three U.S. Navy officers, two U.S. Air Force officers, one Israeli Air Force officer and one civilian mission specialist all perished in the disaster.

Twitter · Feb 1, 2023, 5:57 PM

[tough quail]

france has lots of friends krembles

its everyone not in nato

[manic latch]

Based

[spring briar]

Who is fren?

[manic latch]

Whoever allowed to buy French weapons

Which is kinda alot Frens

[spring briar]

Wtf you talking about

[manic latch]

Rich

[tough quail]

france exports to everyone under the sun

[manic latch]

Exactly

[tough quail]

hell top gun pokes fun at it

fucking migs carrying exocets lmao

[spring briar]

What does it have to do with friends

[lone bloom]

Didn’t a British company just sell their jet technology to the ussr at some point?

Was it for the Hunter? Or am I misremembering

[manic latch]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Nene

55 of this baby

Or was it 40

Anyway

[manic latch]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klimov_VK-1

It became this

Which China as it says also license build

[lone bloom]

Didn’t Russians take me262s as well?

[frigid karma]

“What fool will sell us his secrets”

[lone bloom]

Im pretty sure that the British jets were better than the Nazi ones

[manic latch]

Everyone did on Allies

This engine is much better of course

Most powerful of its time

[lone bloom]

True lol

What was the service life like on the British jet engines? I know the Nazi ones were really short

Which is one of the reasons they weren’t that good

[frigid karma]

There’s wasn’t that good either

Jet technology is in its infancy

[lone bloom]

In fact, I believe the reason the 262 had the engines on the wings like that was so they could be easily replaced

Yeah that’s true

[tough quail]

its just the british had actual money and more competence

instead of like

building jet engines out of wood and silly string

[manic latch]

In the US it was built under licence as the Pratt & Whitney J42, and it powered the Grumman F9F Panther.

[lone bloom]

The Germans only had scrap metal and meth yeah lol

[manic latch]

So you can learn from that I guess

[desert agate]

other than the abhorrent engine life the ME262 had some exceptional flight characteristics that went on to influence other later jet developments

[lone bloom]

Well, they were able to produce them on a (somewhat) large scale, as opposed to the British

So there is that

[tough quail]

aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines smh

[desert agate]

problem with the 262 is twofold firstly it couldnt be produced in significant enough numbers in germanys wartime economy and secondly it was german and they lost

[manic latch]

German Me-262 jet fighters aboard an aircraft carrier. They're on the deck of the HMS Reaper on their way to the US to be evaluated. An Arado Ar-234 was on  it

[lone bloom]

Cool picture

[tough quail]

surprise italian

[desert agate]

italian jumpscare

[lone bloom]

When did the US develop the p80? During or after the war?

[manic latch]

Flew in 1944

[desert agate]

it saw combat in italy

[tough quail]

p-80s are bizarre

[lone bloom]

I had no idea it saw combat during the war

[tough quail]

they're the fune american jet but literally nobody talks about them

[lone bloom]

Well the Sabre came out pretty soon after, didn’t it?

[shrewd pecan]

I mean the P-80 did serve in WW2

[lone bloom]

On what scale, though? It was nowhere near as common as the mustang, for example

[desert agate]

remember what they took from you

[lone bloom]

Think of iconic airplanes, the mustang is up there at the top

[shrewd pecan]

Before World War II ended, however, two American pre-production Lockheed YP-80A Shooting Star fighter jets saw limited service in Italy with the USAAF on reconnaissance, in February and March 1945.[16] Because of delays in delivery of production aircraft, the Shooting Star saw no actual combat during the conflict.[17]

[lone bloom]

The hell is this?

[desert agate]

CA-24

or the Hawker P.1081

[tough quail]

its based is what it is

[desert agate]

was the RAAFs attempt to find a replacement for the Mustang that could be built by CAC

and while they were waiting on the CA-23 to come about

only for Korea to cause RAAF to shit themselves and realise they needed jets now not in a few years

which eventually led to the CA-27 or Avon Sabre

[tough quail]

[lone bloom]

I’ve never heard of this thing, looks cool though

[desert agate]

oh and the prototype crashed which didnt help the development process

[lone bloom]

Yeah that wouldn’t be helpful

[desert agate]

underside

[lone bloom]

Are those the air intakes where the wing meets the fuselage?

[tough quail]

the proportions are gr8

[desert agate]

yeah

[lone bloom]

She is a very pretty airplane

[tough quail]

i r8 8/8

good job aussies

[tough quail]

it it kind of reminds me of a like

late ww2 intruder

[desert agate]

was developed by the Brits with CAC basically outlining the specifications and were planning to build it themselves

[lone bloom]

Reminds me a bit of the Hunter, probably for good reason

It does look like an intruder

[tough quail]

is it just me

[lone bloom]

I see it

[desert agate]

a lot of the experience gained from the program would go on to influence the Hunter program

[spring briar]

you did not just say that

even ironically

[lone bloom]

A big enough engine means you don’t have to care about physics wdym

[desert agate]

we also lost this

[tough quail]

it's an enzo ferrari quote

[desert agate]

in a certified australian industry moment

almost made one of the first operational supersonic fighters

would have been highly capable and advanced for the time

cancelled because idfk

[tough quail]

pain

[desert agate]

"we changed our policy on indigenous aircraft development"
why
"because we changed our policy on aircraft acquisition"
why
"because we changed our policy on indigenous aircraft development"

[lone bloom]

Infinite recursion

[cinder escarp]

You can't mention hawker programs with out the P.1121

[desert agate]

it truly is an australian industry moment

[thorn trail]

what plane is this

[cinder escarp]

Also the even greater P.1154

[desert agate]

good sir

please read

[tough quail]

i love you knife planes

[thorn trail]

Oh sorry. Please andastand brain is dead now

[desert agate]

no stress

[cinder escarp]

P.1121 died because "lol who needs manned aircraft"

And the P.1154 primarily died due to RAF-FAA fighting

[desert agate]

we're developing our own planes again

which is nice

maybe mq-28 will lead to us not making a shit decision and yet again losing all of our industry experienced personnel

and maybe we'll go on to develop something manned

or we'll just yet again repeat the cycle of developing something cool building it and then abandoning the industry to lose all of the experience and investment

[frigid karma]

Is there any underlying doctrine to it

[desert agate]

such an amazing team of economic and industrial policymakers

[frigid karma]

Or is it just brain rot

[desert agate]

the underlying doctrine is government making shitty decisions

[frigid karma]

Brain rot

[desert agate]

for some reason we're still stuck in that mindset that we're too poor and small to effectively defend ourselves and develop the industry to give us the means to defend ourselves

[lone bloom]

[desert agate]

even though we did it 80 years ago

[lone bloom]

Are you referring to Australia?

[frigid karma]

He’s Aussie

[desert agate]

and the swedes 1/3rd our population and can have a proper industry

and we're fucking rich

[lone bloom]

What does Australia export? I have no idea

[desert agate]

in terms of military equipment or in general?

[lone bloom]

I have no idea what y’all’s economy is based on

In general

[frigid karma]

Coal

[desert agate]

minerals

[desert agate]

wrong

[frigid karma]

Don’t you guys export a lot of coal

[desert agate]

coal makes up a very small amount of our exports after the Chinese thing

[frigid karma]

Especially to China, which hurt them when they cut it off

[desert agate]

Australia is the worlds largest exporter of iron ore

[frigid karma]

Oh yeah that’s what you meant

[desert agate]

coal these days is mainly for the domestic market

and india

[frigid karma]

I meant Aussie exported a lot of coal to China, which China cut off and then promptly suffered a billion shutdowns

[desert agate]

china is trying to buy back our coal but coal mines are shutting down

[frigid karma]

👀

[desert agate]

because we're moving with the markets

[tough quail]

please sell me iron so i can powerlevel blacksmithing

[desert agate]

in any case

[spiral cedar]

100 iron daggers time

[lone bloom]

Coal is on the way out and has been lol, yet people keep trying to “save” it or whatever

[desert agate]

if theres something you own made out of steel, chances are it came out of the ground in WA

like your car

[frigid karma]

Preexisting interests

[lone bloom]

I mean, yeah

[desert agate]

if your car was made in china, japan or korea, it's australian metals

we're basically the start of every supply chain

[lone bloom]

That’s cool, I had no idea

[desert agate]

we also export a lot of wool to places with textile industries

[lone bloom]

So the supply chain issues are YOUR fault? Smh

[desert agate]

and Asia gets a huge chunk of its meat and grain from us

[tough quail]

thanks australia nsx's are cool

[desert agate]

The top exports of Australia are Iron Ore ($79.6B), Coal Briquettes ($36.4B), Petroleum Gas ($26.8B), Gold ($17.7B), and Frozen Bovine Meat ($4B), exporting mostly to China ($102B), Japan ($31.8B), South Korea ($17.2B), United States ($11.6B), and India ($11.3B).

In 2020, Australia was the world's biggest exporter of Iron Ore ($79.6B), Coal Briquettes ($36.4B), Aluminium Oxide ($3.59B), Sheep and Goat Meat ($2.7B), and Wool ($1.58B)

[desert agate]

blame god
or climate change
depends on who you blame for the bushfires and floods

[lone bloom]

Lol

[desert agate]

global grain crisis due to reasons
Australia having an excellent grain season due to high rains
ports are at maximum capacity so exports cant be increased
extra grain gets washed away by the floods

[lone bloom]

Oh wait, was it Australia that was totally on fire at the start of 2020?

[desert agate]

yeah

[lone bloom]

God

I hope you guys are holding up okay over there

I wanna visit someday, man, it seems like a cool country

[desert agate]

some places are better off than others right now

we're in summer and la nina has finally fucked off so the floodings gone

in most of the country at least

far north WA is having a fun time right now

thanks to the high rainfall and the la nina that hung around too long a lot of the excess biomass naturally produced by the ecosystem was washed away so theres not been a huge risk of fires on the east coast

this summer has been pretty tame nation wide and it seems like 2023 shouldn't have too many crippling natural disasters

[lone bloom]

What’s La Niña?

[desert agate]

basically an antarctic low pressure system that controls our rain cycle

recent one hung around for way too long and caused devastating flooding

[lone bloom]

Here’s hoping things don’t go poorly lol

[desert agate]

whole thing was caused by the tongan volcano

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZtRKbTdQVw&ab_channel=OzGeographics

this guy explains it pretty well

anyway im off

[lone bloom]

Later! Thanks for sharing all that stuff lol

I learned about Australia and also cool airplanes

[desert agate]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAC_CA-15

last plane

fat mustang

that wasnt a mustang

just kinda looked like one

[lone bloom]

Fat mustang

[shrewd pecan]

I mean

the aussies do make two of my favorite MRAPs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushmaster_Protected_Mobility_Vehicle

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawkei

I don't know why the Aussies excel at making things look cool

its probably their camo

[tough quail]

oh that second one looks fucking rad

[subtle prawn]

https://old.reddit.com/r/WarshipPorn/comments/10q8evw/a_196_scale_model_of_the_g3_battlecruiser_the_uk/

[deep apex]

Still hits decades later

I was always embarrassed by the words sacred, glorious, and sacrifice...The sacrifices were like the stockyards at Chicago if nothing was done with the meat except to bury it.
There were many words you could not stand to hear...Abstract words such as glory, honor, courage, or hallow were obscene...

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavyLookout/status/1620354435556728832

Navy Lookout (@NavyLookout)

Umoe Mandal🇳🇴 contracted by @BAES_Maritime to build a further 5 lightweight composite masts for 2nd batch of Type 26 frigates.

Contract covers manufacture of the mast structure, including sponsons, doors, hatches & internal outfitting, plus some bulwarks and life raft platforms

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Twitter · Jan 31, 2023, 9:32 AM

[tough quail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552788046161117184/1070469689202966538/20230201_142400.jpg

suspicious foxhound loves you

[strong plank]

it looks like it was stung by a bee

[shut wren]

Honestly that seems like a good static fortification

[frigid karma]

funny you would mention that

[shut wren]

[frigid karma]

The superstructure of the planned, but never built Strike Cruiser (CSGN) sits on the roof of the Vice Admiral James H. Doyle, Jr. Combat System Engineering Development Site (CSEDS), formerly USS Rancocas (LS-1) [1920x1536]

imagine they just built a shipgirl head and then funding went out

[shut wren]

So they put the head on a building

[frigid karma]

so they just plop it on a building for her to enjoy the view

kmore or less

[shut wren]

So what if they build the body(rest of the Ship) and funding ran out

tf would they do

[frigid karma]

Combine them

And send her to work her debt off at a fast food chain

[shut wren]

Nah but its two different systems

Would that work

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1620869388013543424

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

In 1945, two sailors who were angry about being ordered to scrape and paint USS LSM-51 decided to write "FOR SALE" on the side. It wasn't until another ship signaled "How much do you want for it?" that the confused captain discovered the unauthorized ad. #WarshipWednesday

Likes

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Twitter · Feb 1, 2023, 7:39 PM

[sullen canyon]

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ_9ZfU9Vv0

[frigid karma]

darpas liberty lifter

spoilering because nsfw

[frigid karma]

https://vxtwitter.com/rgpoulussen/status/1619947428949688320?t=0V06RMEc2CY2iy2iSuzsVw&s=19

dive bombers hate this one simple trick

[glass trail]

i-

[manic latch]

Godspeed

https://news.usni.org/2023/01/31/navy-destroyer-modernization-program-could-cost-17b-take-up-to-2-years-per-hull

[frigid karma]

More than a Cv?

[junior trench]

... it's every IIA

I would expect it to be expensive

[shrewd pecan]

its bringing them up to speed with the flight IIIs

SPY-6 on nearly every burke is gonna be great to see

[junior trench]

SPY-6 and even funnier EW

and the EW is already allegedly hilarious

[shrewd pecan]

👁️ the new EW system I will deem as the elf ears

Burkes = elves

that's about 46 ships getting the retrofit

[jagged monolith]

Setting standards.

[jagged monolith]

Interestingly the Flt. IIIs, due to SWaP-C considerations, will not feature the new SEWIP. Instead they will have AN/SPY-6 with 37 RMAs.

Which is a vast improvement compared to the 20something on the older Burkes.

[maiden citrus]

finally a defensive system straight from my mind

[manic latch]

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/china-launches-second-possible-type-093b-hull

[manic latch]

Finally found this picture

Size difference of M48A5T2 and T-90A

[shut wren]

Damn I though It was last year they launched the subs

[manic latch]

https://news.usni.org/2023/02/01/navy-planning-for-december-2025-hypersonic-missile-test-off-uss-zumwalt

[desert agate]

https://twitter.com/ryankakiuchan/status/1620976312331673600?t=l39FiKaUYj3bcxDUp86GNA&s=19

Ryan Chan 陳家翹 (@ryankakiuchan)

DARPA selects General Atomics and Aurora Flight Sciences to develop designs for Liberty Lifter Seaplane Wing-in-Ground Effect full-scale demonstrator. It will be a large flying boat similar in size and capacity to the C-17 Globemaster III.
https://t.co/7sSpYyY58l

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Twitter · Feb 2, 2023, 2:44 AM

[delicate beacon]

tfw still no email response

[manic latch]

It was me Sang

[delicate beacon]

[manic latch]

I blocked your email account through Dutch naval archives so you couldn't draw more Dutch blueprints

[ivory ridge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/430896709812486154/1046163136702599198/live_soppy_reaction.gif

[delicate beacon]

All I did is ask some stuff about their lists of ordnances

[manic latch]

China’s 7th Type 055 Destroyer ‘Anshan’

[glass trail]

what are the ships in the background

[chilly osprey]

?

That's Zunyi

Anshan is 103

[strange steppe]

imagine going to bomb some dude and you get blasted in the face by the raw power of the sun

[desert agate]

the flamethrower wont stop a divebombing attack

[frigid karma]

Then make it bigger

[manic latch]

https://tenor.com/view/jtd-id-it-b-loaf-x-how-justin-timberlake-ruined-my-life-laying-down-lying-down-gif-21573317

Fuck

[tight violet]

The second one looks nicer

I hope that version wins

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/delfoarse/status/1621101698981953536

M1A2 SEPv3 Abrams (@delfoarse)

Hyundai Rotem K2 Tank road map for Polish and ROK Army

Comapny-proposed version fitted with 7 road wheels seems to be diminished after discussion with polish MOD while technological transfer and codevelopment of next generation platform remains.

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Twitter · Feb 2, 2023, 11:02 AM

https://twitter.com/RyszardJonski/status/1621237454417141764

Junsupreme (@RyszardJonski)

According to 🇰🇷Military Review 23/02, published by AckDog blogger - Hanwha Aerospace, after the export success of the K9 and K239 to 🇵🇱, has focused on designing the K-NIFV/Korean Next-Generation Infantry Fighting Vehicle/in order to reduce technological dependence of 🇰🇷IFVs.

Twitter · Feb 2, 2023, 8:01 PM

[tough quail]

still six road wheels

back to being shit

smh

[jagged monolith]

oh god they discovered milreview

You need to filter that particular source sometimes.

[frigid karma]

Tabloid?

[jagged monolith]

Not quite; they were right about a lot of things nobody else anticipated. But they're straight up weird.

That thing has been running for ages and back then they ate a lot of flak for being overly optimistic.

Well, who's laughing now.

[vast zinc]

Who wants to know a fun fact about why blitzkrieg was so successful

[spiral cedar]

https://youtu.be/LCNw2e-Zehw

[frigid karma]

blitzkrieg is when you hold w

[vast zinc]

I was going to say they gave their soldiers some meth

[frigid karma]

everyone had meth in ww2

[spiral cedar]

Not really

Everyone used amphetamines

Methamphetamines are another story

[shut wren]

you hold w until you die

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qej9DX28-xw

[strong plank]

wow what a totally niche and original fact nobody has ever heard of before

[frigid karma]

can you chill a little

[tough quail]

https://tenor.com/view/confusion-chicken-gif-11299790

[frigid karma]

he's new here

[kindred reef]

you know, german tanks may have been among the worst in the war but they sure did look cool

[frigid karma]

it's unoriginal to you, sure

german tanks are certainly the worst relative to how they're jerked off

[kindred reef]

no i mean they die easily

i think people watch fury and think that tigers just cannot die

[tough quail]

they're definitely not flimsy on introduction

[frigid karma]

tigers don't die easily either, they're quite well protected against 75s

the only problem is, fury is a 76

[kindred reef]

yeah but a sherman firefly could sneeze on them and they could just explode

[frigid karma]

you can argue the film 'corrects' for this by then pitting the sherman against 10 trillion germans with panzerfausts

and the sherman just doesn't die

[tough quail]

goes both ways tbf

a firefly and a tiger will pretty much impale the other

just depends who shoots first

[frigid karma]

it's just usually

[kindred reef]

shermans are fairly well protected

[frigid karma]

m8 a sherman cannot tank an 88

[ivory ridge]

wait wait wait

[frigid karma]

but the sherman isn't taking an 88

[ivory ridge]

wasnt the whole 75 vs 76 thing like

[frigid karma]

because the tiger is broken down

[ivory ridge]

not a thing

[strong plank]

fury fucks up the gun too iirc

as in like

[frigid karma]

fury pretends the 76 cant pen a tiger at close ranges

[kindred reef]

what about angled?

[frigid karma]

pepega what

its an 88

[strong plank]

"hm yes fury's an easy 8, let's still make them circle around and hit the tiger from behind"

[frigid karma]

the fury bounces a tiger's 88 at point blank range too from the side

37mm of pittsburgh steel

[strong plank]

also the easy 8 must have been exponentially more accurate because Fury's the only tank to actually hit shit period

[tough quail]

it was very much a thing irt armor pen

[frigid karma]

the entire film is just stupid

[strong plank]

except for that one group of germans hiding in a basement

[tough quail]

it usually doesn't matter because you usually use HE and 75s are great for that

[kindred reef]

what about sherman jumbo could it bounce an 88?

[frigid karma]

that scene is stupid too

[tough quail]

armor pen wise the 75 is fuck awful

[kindred reef]

i remember them being well armored

[frigid karma]

"oh hans that tank commander is putting his head out of a turret"

"no, shoot the old guy"

"we need to look edgy"

[ivory ridge]

oh it had more propellant

[tough quail]

a jumbo can bounce ab 88 yes

[ivory ridge]

alright

[frigid karma]

and now it has to fight somua SMs

[kindred reef]

wasn't it the germans who stuck their heads out while traveling?

[frigid karma]

because tigers cannot aim for the mg port

im talking about that scene from fury

[tough quail]

everyone did

[ivory ridge]

looks for stuff about 75 vs 76 online

i dont

see why this should be there

[tough quail]

you can't see a fucking thing inside a ww2 tank

[frigid karma]

they decide to have the germans gun down a random guy giving directions rather than you konw

the tank commander

[strong plank]

your internet knows you too well unde

[frigid karma]

chokolade must have been hitting extra hard that day

[kindred reef]

lmao

[frigid karma]

it's just a shitty film overall, saving private ryan was way better for the 'war sux' theme

[ivory ridge]

we have enough war sucks movies

how about more war is cool ones

[strong plank]

enough talk of defense spending

lets talk offense spending

[ivory ridge]

[frigid karma]

https://www.metaflix.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Slim-Pickens-Riding-Bomb-in-Dr.-Strangelove-Movie.jpg

[ivory ridge]

where is that one meme about germany

[frigid karma]

enough about our horrific past

let's discuss our horrific future

[ivory ridge]

yeah that

[frigid karma]

Please welcome the J-8B to the club!

[ivory ridge]

this was 3 days ago

[strong plank]

those were declassified iirc

[frigid karma]

i thought they weren't

[kindred reef]

it's only fun when they are classified

[strong plank]

y'all wanna see me summon Horse

oof, no takers?

[shut wren]

Somebody getting shot

[frigid karma]

undie speedrunning gaining political favor with the current italian political administration

[deep apex]

Tbf, there was a German veteran who said he saw a guy jump up from the side of the road with a panzerfaust against a Sherman tank, and he said he didn't know how, but he missed.

[shut wren]

thats what happens when you recruit old fucks

[deep apex]

No I think he said it was someone his age at the time

[frigid karma]

yeah but spoon have you watched the scene

[deep apex]

Yes

Many times

[shut wren]

lets talk about how tf did a KV-1 bounce 5 Kv-2 shells

[frigid karma]

[kindred reef]

snail issue

[frigid karma]

even if those were AP, the spalling of the repeated impacts would've turned the crew inside into liquid

[shut wren]

HE

you're insane for using AP for big gun

[tough quail]

coward

[shut wren]

Lmao in war thunder your crew can get pulverized by a 2000kg and still be knocked out

[ivory ridge]

omw to convince the mod to build more destroyers and a CATOBAR carrier

[strong plank]

"so I finally watched Black Hawk Down over break and the M14 kinda fucks ngl"

[frigid karma]

never watched black hawk down

how historically accurate is it

[shut wren]

shit

I was so close to getting the J-8 info

[strong plank]

the movie added some elements

like the weird rivalry between the deltas and the normal rangers

good movie tho

[tough quail]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-anime-omg-wtf-cant-unsee-gif-5159766

[shut wren]

Guys

did they declassifyed the F-4E phantom

[tough quail]

proooobably?

[strong plank]

well it was retired in 1996

[shut wren]

I found a little something from 1979

[tough quail]

[ivory ridge]

https://twitter.com/bad_histories/status/1620877509243076608?t=SFCK4S8j2Dv2AZvBSAnvug&s=19

Bad History Takes (@bad_histories)

Mhm. It's such a mystery why Poland hates Russia. It's not like Poland has been invaded and partitioned by Russia multiple times or anything like that. That would earn Russia the lasting enmity of Poland, so of course Russia would never do that. I guess the world will never know.

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Twitter · Feb 1, 2023, 8:11 PM

[shut wren]

damn they still locking stuff up from 1959

[kindred reef]

sad

[shut wren]

Damn all this stuff locked up

I cant be a real wart player

sad

[tough quail]

https://tenor.com/view/confusion-chicken-gif-11299790

[shut wren]

we wart mfs supposed to leak shit

[jagged monolith]

What in the name of the Lord?

[tight violet]

This boat looks cute
pic from war thunder tho

[kindred reef]

V-990 better

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1621310952489590785

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

Since "Chinese Spy Balloon" is trending: In 1945, the crew of USS New York spotted a sphere that they thought might be a Japanese balloon weapon. The captain ordered it shot down but none of the guns could score a hit. Finally, a navigator realized they were attacking Venus.

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Twitter · Feb 3, 2023, 12:53 AM

[timber linden]

Yet they are kissing the germans asses who have also done the same thing

[ivory ridge]

[tough quail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/169946730173825024/1064389228458418176/well_fuck.gif

[shrewd pecan]

[timber linden]

And they are kissing the asses of france and britian who betrayed them in the 30s and the 40s.

[ivory ridge]

[frigid karma]

[shrewd pecan]

man knows nothing of recent German-Polish history

[frigid karma]

They went to war over that but ok

[shrewd pecan]

🤨

[frigid karma]

Sounds like a troll tbh

[shrewd pecan]

[timber linden]

I dont know if thier lips on the ass of sweden but...why not. Finish the trifecta

[frigid karma]

Kaga my good friend have you heard like

Any form of political rhetoric from polish politicians

[shrewd pecan]

glory to the Korean-Polish hyper defense industry!
K2PL for all!

[frigid karma]

For the past 80 years

[shrewd pecan]

down with Rheinmetall!

[frigid karma]

You’re wasting your breath, the pumas already fucked their reputation

[desert agate]

almost as if shit that happened in the 1940s isn't majorly relevant to modern geopolitical alliances

[shrewd pecan]

you gotta love it when Germany and Rheinmetall fuck over their main export customers

[desert agate]

Poland doesn't hate Russia for what Russia did to it centuries ago Poland hates Russia for what Russia did to it 30 years ago

[shrewd pecan]

also expecting the US and Britain to fight a war against the Soviets after fighting the deadliest war europe has even seen

is rather dumb

unless your entire argument is they should of fought alongside the Nazis against the Soviets

which is just

a bad argument

[timber linden]

I mean the germans were expecting it

[desert agate]

The Germans expected a lot of things

[timber linden]

Why george... uhmmm.....mysteriously died in the car accident

[desert agate]

They expected to win the war for example

[shrewd pecan]

Yeah we're gonna hand the entirety of Eastern Europe to the worse thing that ever happened to Europe

over the Soviets

what a good argument

[tough quail]

patton got got because he deserved it

[timber linden]

Should have let the british bomb the soviets first then invade

[tough quail]

actual scum

[desert agate]

Yeah I don't see how that's going to do much

[tough quail]

good luck convincing literally anyone to go along with that

[timber linden]

Patton was litterly top three commanders in the allies

[desert agate]

You're not even going to dent Soviet industry

[tough quail]

we'll get those lancasters over the urals trust me

[desert agate]

If Patton was Assassinated he deserved it

[spiral cedar]

Patton wasn’t even top 3 commanders named George

[desert agate]

If it was an accident then good riddance

[tough quail]

my man thought he could 1v1 the soviet union but couldn't win a 1v1 with a windshield

[desert agate]

Patton is like Macarthur in that the only reason he held any relevance was corruption and gaming the system

[frigid karma]

Twas a shame Eisenhower is associated with those two walking turds when they were gunning down the bonus army

[tough quail]

even macarthur was just a negligent ass

[desert agate]

In an ideal world he never would have gotten overly high in the chain of command

[tough quail]

patton was an actual, genuine sociopath

[timber linden]

Some here might believe this

[desert agate]

So true!

[tough quail]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-anime-omg-wtf-cant-unsee-gif-5159766

[shrewd pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/exhausted-tiresome-its-all-so-tiresome-gif-15502639

[spiral cedar]

Coming from the renowned expert on Pearl Harbor, I see

[remote monolith]

what on earth is going on

[desert agate]

Also r word slur is banned here

[timber linden]

Oh chirst, forgot to censor it

[ivory ridge]

R||iben||

[frigid karma]

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/world/poland-demands-1-3-trillion-in-world-war-ii-reparations-from-germany

Mm yas

Kissing indeed

[jagged monolith]

What in the name of Yan Hui?

[ivory ridge]

Yeah like

[frigid karma]

Much kissing of the ass here

[jagged monolith]

What is happening here?

[tough quail]

im so torn on who to back here

on one hand, germany is germany

on the other hand

polish no-gay zones

[frigid karma]

When I go to sleep with my nonexistent gf I demand 1.3 trillion dollars

[shrewd pecan]

Polands doing things I wish they did years ago but with the worse government possible

[tough quail]

this is hard

[subtle prawn]

The usual

[frigid karma]

I mean yes it is posturing purely for elections but like

1.3t, really?

[shrewd pecan]

I've had a Polish friend call his government "the Piss dictatorship"

[frigid karma]

1.2 I understand but 1.3, damn

[tough quail]

i mean the shit that went on under german occupation is

1.3t is not covering it

[frigid karma]

But also

It’s 80 years ago

[shrewd pecan]

idk its good Polands inserting itself as a power in the EU, standing up against Germany and stepping up its arms industry game

tho at the same time its under PISS

[tough quail]

can i get me some mmmmmmm

polish nurses

👁️

[desert agate]

Germany already paid reparations when their manpower rebuilt Poland

[frigid karma]

Wonder how much money the flood was worth

[tough quail]

yeah the bad part is that

[frigid karma]

[tough quail]

poland is also a draconian shithole

and the EU should dismantle them

not let them become a "power"

[jagged monolith]

The Poles must learn from Germany if they want to give them the finger, not cry like a petulant child. You learn from them all you can and then cry like a petulant child so people have to take you seeiously, We would know, we did it with Japan.

[shrewd pecan]

pis

[frigid karma]

More like

Pls

[shrewd pecan]

considering no one in the EU is willing to actually represent Eastern Europe

[lime belfry]

Well it just their goverment agenda dont just generalize every Poles like that

[frigid karma]

Wish fox was here

[shrewd pecan]

no they should insert themselves as a power

especially considering how badly the main powers in the EU failed initially with the most recent current event

[tough quail]

yeah but if your domestic situation is as terrible as polands

you should not be representing anything

[shrewd pecan]

I mean there the only ones really able to establish themselves in such a position

[jagged monolith]

Poland needs to grow economy

[shrewd pecan]

their government is ass I agree

[jagged monolith]

Not spend money on 1000 black panthers of duda

[ivory ridge]

Take some of Hungary too just in case

[spiral cedar]

Y’all gonna get the mods angry

[shrewd pecan]

probably

https://tenor.com/view/fighterjet-f111-afterburner-speed-fly-gif-16340388

[tough quail]

i should note i definitely mean all of this towards poland in the 80s

trust

[frigid karma]

Jaba

[shrewd pecan]

anyway lemme go find that F-111 crap I was reading earlier

[frigid karma]

All else being equal, who would you oath first in azur Welkin

[lime belfry]

So... why are u guys shitting on the Poles all of a sudden

[frigid karma]

(Plongirl game spinoff)

[spiral cedar]

What’s an Azur Welkin

[desert agate]

i love the pig

[tough quail]

yaes

[frigid karma]

Rumored azur lane plane spinoff

[spiral cedar]

SBD ig

Without knowing anything I can say nothing

[frigid karma]

Going for enty’s daughter too

Damn

[lime belfry]

Sounds hot. Where my Meteor waifu at

Better be ur

[ivory ridge]

https://fxtwitter.com/Der_Parrot/status/1619060778979717126?t=-aw5ula16gNGPOWbno2aKA&s=19

[tough quail]

lmfao

[shrewd pecan]

god

why do all of the American swept wings

have to look so good

[desert agate]

he says posting an RAAF pig

[shrewd pecan]

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/4595/flying-the-iconic-swing-wing-f-111-aardvark-at-the-height-of-the-cold-war

[ivory ridge]

Why does Throat singing metal sound good
https://fxtwitter.com/Der_Parrot/status/1619121022476890114?t=JZaEbyJnYqDkK4fe51R18Q&s=19

[ivory ridge]

Vark vark vark vark

[tough quail]

tandem seaters my beloveds

aardvarks are the shit

[desert agate]

pigs are peak

[jagged monolith]

Zengzi is dim-witted.
Analects has some ????? moments
Like where Confucius takes a minute to diss four of his students

[desert agate]

oh

speaking of F-111s

https://www.defence.gov.au/news-events/news/2023-02-03/navy-divers-safeguard-popular-site

[jagged monolith]

I'm not sure why and I don't think anyone else is either

[desert agate]

a mk82 was found in Jervis Bay

unexploded

more than likely dropped by an F-111 since it had been there for 40 years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we1lORLVINU&ab_channel=RoyalAustralianNavy

[shrewd pecan]

gifts from the pig

[desert agate]

indeed

we have been blessed

[shrewd pecan]

https://youtu.be/Bn_tiJ4UTmQ

[maiden citrus]

oh hey I know the perfect place to put this hypothetical into work on

[frigid karma]

confucius is pretty nutty

any ancient literature has these moments tbh

you think we can talk about ze balloon in here, or too much politics

[deep apex]

Latter

[strong plank]

what genuine mental illness did I miss

[jagged monolith]

Chinese classics are really fucked up, really interesting, or both.

[frigid karma]

Usual white name bad take troll

[jagged monolith]

Joseon dynasty needed some economists yo

[maiden citrus]

the usual

[jagged monolith]

I admire the ideals of Joseon but there ain't shit in the five classics about how to manage economies, and virtue is no substitute for knowledge!

[strong plank]

poland can do a little funny now and then, as a treat

[jagged monolith]

https://eh.net/encyclopedia/the-economic-history-of-korea/

The first part is of interest here.

In the mid-nineteenth century paddy land productivity in Korea was about half of that in Japan.
Japan is much warmer and wetter, so no suprise here.

Per capita output rose faster than one percent per year from 1911-38.
Even North Korea did better than that with the exception of the Ardous March.

[fiery sparrow]

A

I hear

someone are talking bout joseon

[jagged monolith]

What.

[fiery sparrow]

nothing

[jagged monolith]

who are you?

[jagged monolith]

Credit where credit is due though, Japan greatly increased output in Korea. However the main aim of this increase in output was not to the benefit of Koreans.

The Rice Production Enhancement Plan fixed Korea’s broken agricultural practices and greatly enhanced production. However per capita caloric input (which wasn’t good even before) stagnated and/or declined, while the practices of the Japanese and Collaborator Landlords became increasingly extractive, as well as landless serfs becoming a majority of the farming population.

[frigid karma]

Korea cannot into good neighbors

[jagged monolith]

I must economy

anyway.

Japan invested in Korea heavily; railway were constructed and factories built. An example of one is the Heungnam Fertilizer Factory.

This factory was the largest explosives and fertilizer factory in Joseon at the time.

It was a marvel of city planning and rapid development with an annual capacity of more than 40,000 tons, producing not just fertilizer but all sorts of industrial goods.

Or rather, it still is.

Where did the factory’s output go? It did not go into Korean farms. Often it did not even go into Japanese farms. It went into the machine of war. The factory was used as a vital industrial lynchpin for the Japanese invasion of China. It is enblematic of all the investments made into Korea by Japan; to feed the machine of War.

[glass trail]

poetic

[jagged monolith]

A detour but a relevant one nonetheless; I would like to honor this man. A lone laborer who had the courage to stand fight against his masters who worked him and his fellows day and night in the Heungnam Fertilizer Factory.

He fought for the rights of the workers in the factory in opposition to the circling overlords within seeking profit. He fought for an independent Korea and for the rights of the people working within the industries of the occupation, headed a labor union and organized strikes.

His name was Isogaya Sueji, and he had the courage to do what was right when it would be going against his country. It is not so hard for a Korean to be a Korean independence activist, but it takes exceptional bravery and virtue for a Japanese to be one. This is why he is worth remembering; when Koreans would not fight for Korea, he, a Japanese, roused them to action.

[tribal mortar]

some wild shit right here

[shrewd pecan]

meh

if you want anything eye catching about her

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPK-1_Vikhr

its probably the nuclear anti submarine missiles

[jagged monolith]

Leo2A7NO.

[eternal veldt]

@alpine onyx Gneisenau and a torp hit damage, if interested

[jagged monolith]

K2NO was always a long shot. Oh well.

[eternal veldt]

Also daily chomker is becoming a thing, can't help it

YC-159 and Empress of Australia next to Tennessee

[alpine onyx]

The bow torpedo hit?

[eternal veldt]

I believe so. Not much context other than torpedo hit.

[alpine onyx]

I think I saw that photo before for the bow hit

Other than there there's only the weird aft shaft hit when she was in port

[maiden citrus]

chomker

[eternal veldt]

And another original colour picture, very pog

[maiden citrus]

superb

[subtle prawn]

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/norway-to-buy-54-leopard-2-to-replace-its-aging-tank-force-1.1878930

https://twitter.com/Forsvaret_no/status/1621448729831038976

Norwegian Armed Forces | Forsvaret (@Forsvaret_no)

#Norway has decided to procure 54 new, modern #Leopard 2A7 battle tanks, with a possibility of an additional 18 tanks. The first new tanks are expected to be delivered in 2026. This will significantly strengthen the Norwegian Armed Forces and the @NorwegianArmy. #WeAreNATO

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Twitter · Feb 3, 2023, 10:01 AM

[subtle prawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qg3F7lKXSw

[manic latch]

Man where did Abrams went wrong

Why most of Europe usually buys Leo2s instead Abrams

I understand why not Chal 2 and Leclerc since Leclerc is...not being produced since 2008 or smh

[junior trench]

Because Germany sold most of their Leo 2s in the 90s

And now it's just sunk cost

Despite Germany also not making new tanks

[manic latch]

Leo2s much cheaper than Abrams?

Damn

[junior trench]

Not anymore

[manic latch]

Oh

[subtle prawn]

In the 90s and early 2000s, they were

[junior trench]

Because Germany was dumping them

While the US actually, you know, still valued their stock

So you'd be ordering actual new builds/refits

[manic latch]

[junior trench]

This order alone would, afaik, increase the number of extant Leopard 2A7s by 25-50%

Correction

More than 50%

But Norway is also at the back of the line

For reference it took 5 years for Germany to deliver 62 tanks to Qatar

Hungary is still waiting for any of their 2A7s to show up after signing their contract in 2018

Because 2019 to 2022 was occupied upgrading a grand total of 44 Danish tank

[tough quail]

there's something genuinely hilarious about waiting three years for one tank

[humble mulch]

Goddamn

[chilly osprey]

Oh, don't forget - it wasn't just Germany. The Dutch had bought 445 of them, and dumped almost all of them after the Cold War

The German wiki page actually has some useful tables for the number of Leopard 2's actually new-built for orders;

[maiden citrus]

that's the kind of wait I'd expect if I asked you to build me a stuart

as in you personally

[chilly osprey]

Of the 445 Dutch Leo 2's;

• 114 sold to Austria in 1996
• 80 sold to Canada in 2007
• 20 sold to Germany in 2007
• 16 'gifted' to Germany in 2017
• 57 sold to Norward in 2000/01
• 38 sold to Portugal in 2007

Totalling 325 - which leaves 120 unaccounted for

[tough quail]

i can do better than that maka

i wont let you down

[maiden citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/war-thunder-spinning-spin-stuart-gif-25520275

horse 2 months in, delivering my stuart, it is well painted with racing stripes and the insignia 'horse racer' on the side

[manic latch]

Mig-31

[sleek sapphire]

is the first cv ever been build in the history hosho?

[desert agate]

Hosho was the first purpose built aircraft carrier to be completed

the first aircraft carrier would be HMS Argus

[jagged monolith]

Oh hello spon

can’t sleep?

[sleek sapphire]

OHHHHHH i see

interesting

[desert agate]

eh

only just after midnight

had a fucked shift so im just unwinding for a bit

[jagged monolith]

Timezones, timezones.

[desert agate]

they arent my favourite things

[jagged monolith]

How’s the new IFV thing going?

[desert agate]

its on hold due to the defence review

[jagged monolith]

Oh boy.

Well, Redback was a fun science project and it was a good way to work out what we wanted. You should really just get bradleys.

[manic latch]

Why Bradleys

[jagged monolith]

cheap

save money

[desert agate]

bradley isnt an option

[jagged monolith]

why tho

[desert agate]

weight

[jagged monolith]

K21 PIP will probably have a lot of Redback’s influences, so it was worth it.

[desert agate]

its heavier than both the Korean and German offerings

[jagged monolith]

It really needs it, thing is getting long in the tooth. No ATGM?!

[desert agate]

and we're having enough trouble trying to figure out how we'll deploy the LAND400 IFVs as is

Redback is getting ATGMs

2 Spikes

[jagged monolith]

Yes. I am well aware.

K21 pointedly does not.

Because it has gone without upgrades for over a decade and a half.

[desert agate]

in any case Bradley isnt even an option for LAND400

[jagged monolith]

This is deeply frustrating to me.

[desert agate]

its either Hanwa or Rheinmetall

Australia wants domestic manufacturing and the US wasn't willing to offer that hence why it never proceeded to the final stages of the program

[jagged monolith]

Hyungung and Shingung both need major upgrades anyways.

So might as well do that alongside K21 if at all possible.

[tough quail]

in the year of our lord 2023 you really do not want to be buying bradleys when there are actual modern options available

[jagged monolith]

It is not as if a K21 derivative is much more modern if not for the modernizations.

Which a Bradley can also be.

[tribal mortar]

like the sdkfz 251 hanomag

[tough quail]

that involves actually bothering to upgrade it

[desert agate]

LAND400 has a lot of problems and the Defence Strategic Policy Review is designed to find inefficiencies in ADF procurement and strategic policy

[jagged monolith]

Things are more modern if you modernize it. Who would have considered?

[desert agate]

either LAND400 will be cancelled and it'll be M113s for another decade or it'll select a winner and ADF will be capable of peer combat again

[manic latch]

M113 and it's consequences

[desert agate]

2RAR is not in fact the be all end all of Australian Defence Force strategy

[tough quail]

aerogavin aerogavin aerogavin

[jagged monolith]

Shingung is more important than Hyungung in need of modernizatioj.

[manic latch]

Samsung

[tough quail]

china will fear the skies

[desert agate]

if we do go forward with LAND400 there will be significant issues with overseas deployment of IFV assets with 2RAR however

[jagged monolith]

With all love for my country Shingung unironically sucks and we should not even be trying to peddle this embarassment to anyone.

[desert agate]

It is possible that ADF will requisition some Tasman Strait ferries in order to deploy IFVs overseas

because as it stands theres not many other viable options

we cant build/buy new ships, our shipyards are full and buying new ships is going to be very difficult to justify given the almost new Canberra class LHDs
we're going to have a very difficult time finding landing craft that can deploy the new IFVs while still maintaining our current deployment efficiency

ADF acquisition policy is fun

[deep apex]

https://youtu.be/bl9mjGzsbII

[manic latch]

Third Objective

[shrewd pecan]

One of the main causes of gulf war syndrome is believed to be the release of nerve agents in the air after the bombing of Iraqi chemical weapon facilities

[shrewd pecan]

Iraqs WMD programs during 91 where very much active

[frigid karma]

The gulf war is what actually prompted the Iraqis to destroy their wmds

So not sure what kremlin is on about

Unless he thinks desert storm = Iraq war

[cinder escarp]

we sold it to them

[shrewd pecan]

Us and the French

primarily the French

[frigid karma]

Israel was selling WMDs to Iraq?!

[shrewd pecan]

no but they secretly collaborated with Iran to destroy their nuclear weapons program

[frigid karma]

Yea ik, I was making a joke off your name

[spiral cedar]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4487829/

[spiral cedar]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1621562611769688068?

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

In 1954, a TV station aired a film distributed by the USN titled "This Is Your Navy". Unfortunately, the film had been mislabeled and was actually the extremely graphic hygiene film "USS VD: Ship of Shame". One shocked viewer said she would never watch TV again. #FunFactFriday

Twitter · Feb 3, 2023, 5:33 PM

[frigid karma]

Fun excerpt from said vid

“And you, did you use a rubber?”
“No doc, she said she was married”

[spiral cedar]

Average Shikikan

“Well I gave her an oath ring, doc”

[frigid karma]

“I feel like I need a tetanus shot just from looking at her, sir!”

Bonus points if you get the reference

[spiral cedar]

“I feel like I need a penicillin shot just from looking at her, sir!”

[frigid karma]

@spiral cedar

Quora moment

[spiral cedar]

50 Hood gangsters with 8 x 15"/42 Mark I

[frigid karma]

Basically the plot of black hawk down

[frigid karma]

This guy is showing up more and more on my feed https://youtube.com/@h0ser

How accurate is his stuff tho?

[sullen canyon]

Is one of those Hood Gangsters, THE HMS Hood?

[subtle prawn]

https://news.usni.org/2023/02/03/french-navy-to-set-sail-for-round-the-world-deployment

[gentle viper]

F-106 Delta Dagger of the 102nd Fighter Interceptor wing "Bear Chasers" (now designated as the 102nd Intelligence Wing) Firing one of the most unique Weapons in the Cold War, The MB-1 Genie (Later redesignated as the AIR-2A Genie), the Only Nuclear air to air Rocket to ever be in service.
The MB-1 Was Designed for the interception of Big soviet bomber formation after the discovery that the soviets had developed a Nuclear bomb of their own.

The MB-1 had a 1.5 kt W25 Warhead

[gentle viper]

*The Delta Dart of this Picture (F-106A-80-CO Serial Number 57-2470) Was sent to the Pima Air & Space Museum in '91 and later ( Around January '94) Returned to service as a Target Drone (QF-106A). It was destroyed by an AMRAAM in February of 1994

[frigid karma]

@remote monolith

https://youtube.com/watch?v=xdCqhPkhV3E

Are the vocals supposed to be from SEA culture?

Doesn’t sound like any SEA language to me, but the region is probably what the music is based on

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1621530280715603968

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

Donnie Dunagan was the youngest U.S. Marine drill instructor. He served three tours in Vietnam and was wounded several times, retiring as a Major in 1977. Throughout his career he managed to keep secret that he had been to voice of Bambi in the 1942 Disney film. #FunFactFriday

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260

Twitter · Feb 3, 2023, 3:25 PM

https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1621576663292170243

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

In 1945, Sheriff Warren Hyde of Utah chased down a Japanese balloon bomb that then took him on a wild ride. He grabbed hold and rode the balloon for almost an hour as it dragged him through barbed wire and reached heights of 30 ft before he was able to tie it down. #FunFactFriday

Likes

327

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129

Twitter · Feb 3, 2023, 6:29 PM

[subtle prawn]

https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2023/february/asked-answered

[rapid junco]

Speaking of aviation
Found the symbol of the 2nd Scout and Bombing Division of the Brazilian Naval Aviation
Literary a pilot using a binoculars and holding a bomb

Kind of sums up the unit's name

[spiral cedar]

A clear statement of purpose, indeed

[ivory ridge]

lol

[rapid junco]

This one is mayyybe
The one of the 1st Division (same kind of unit)

I first thought it was an alligator with a pilot helmet

But its a black cat sitting on something...

I've been searching too much about the use of the Fairey Gordons (aircraft that the Scout & Bombing units used here)
And then mr Rudnei Dias da Cunha send me some scanned pages of the book Aeronaves Militares Brasileiras 1916-2015 (Brazilian Military Aircraft 1916-2015)
And from there i found those two symbols

Another
"Interesting" thing
Was the exercises with the fleet's ships with smokescreen
They (just like many others i think) used Titanium tetrachloride
Which is, well, toxic

Which required the crew of the aircraft to wear gas masks, rubber gloves and leather aprons

[dapper parcel]

There are thousands of languages there, you can pick obscure one and practically none are the wiser

[remote monolith]

pretty much

the SEA isn't nearly as monogamous as the united states, you cross 200 km here and you find yourself with people speaking completely alien languages

sometime the same language even has regional differences radical enough that they can count as separate languages themselves like a mini version of Afrikaan

[subtle prawn]

I saw that one

[eternal veldt]

Bad image

Sao Paulo is scuttled

But that's Oriskany

[rapid junco]

Yeah...

Well

That's a better fate than being scrapped anyways

Although i really wanted her as a museum

[eternal veldt]

Eh, museum ships are stupidly expensive

[rapid junco]

Mr Emerson Miura was trying to work on that

Anyways...

I now hope i can preserve Parnaíba in the future

[frigid karma]

Fair enough

[spiral cedar]

https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1wBzzaI_vK1RkSmRyq6xwupXaS.jpg

Anyone know the context of this poster?

[jagged monolith]

Diaalect continuum. A lack of political unity causes this.

[frigid karma]

I was just looking for some insights as to what the vocals are

Howard, does it at least sound similar to any sea-specific music you’ve heard?

[jagged monolith]

It is bitterly amusing indeed many languages have been kept better than that of the three Kingdoms of Korea, when they were centralized bureaucracies who wrote things down. Then again, they were burned, raided, burned again, looted, and then exploded.

Also they all spoke basically the same language anyway from what histories say.

Enough ranting about my country, how did languages go in SEA?

[eternal veldt]

Just put French, English, German, Latin into a blender and create a new language for the music

-Nier

[maiden citrus]

it is time

[deep apex]

New Mexico class my beloved

[autumn sorrel]

It ranges from minor spelling differences to outright “WTF did you just said?”.

[manic latch]

Sorry for the late response but it's "Defend the Caucasus!" Poster from 1942. For the battle of Caucasus

[frigid karma]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-mad-angry-pointing-gun-gun-gif-17815350

@rapid junco https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/03/climate/brazil-aircraft-carrier-sao-paulo.html

they sank her

[remote monolith]

3000 miles ohgodohfuck they made it into the core

[eternal veldt]

If you can't scrap her, melt her down

[dusty kraken]

They're planning to send to idk Indonesia through digging a hole into the earth and send it there

[manic latch]

Bro she is toxic to scrap

That's the reason Turkey denied it

[solid mango]

What would it look like if we un-CLG'd Topeka but kept the fore superstructure