Alaska class being overly expensive for what they offer, what a surprise
#history
alpine onyx
cinder escarp
This the fate of most cattlebruisers
It turns out paying battleship cost for less than a battleship is sorta goofy
manic latch
Did you know Stalingrad class was also considered for a missile cruiser refit like Alaska did
But also cancelled for how expensive it was like Alaska
delicate beacon
Good bote
cinder escarp
Alaska class bad
Unfortunately, there are few battlecruisers worth their cost.
It is the primary reason they were a niche thing.
Once you are within say, 10% of the costs of a BB, it's hard to justify even say a 5% loss in combat capability to a true BB in terms of planning.
spring briar
Unfortunately, there are few battlecruisers worth their cost.
1944
cinder escarp
They could have finished the final batch of Iowa-dess instead of building the Alaskas 
manic latch
They could have finished the final batch of Iowa-dess instead of building the Al...
I respect Alaska
Stalingrad exists because of her
Or well, %80 existed before Khrushchev made her target practice 
spring briar
night heart
spring briar
unborn wyvern
I think it's an LCS. Getting closer
unborn wyvern
spring briar
@tough quail T-34 with a 122 mm
tough quail
ah yes the nightmare wagon
spring briar
We need a bigger muzzlebreak
delicate beacon
Only the Triple turrets of Tre Kronor were of Dutch specifications 
spiral cedar
if the USN made those original 16"/50 Mark 2/3 guns and gave them to the Lexingtons/1920 SoDaks as intended, and assuming they went to the 2240 lb 16" Mark 5 AP shell as did the Colorados, then if the muzzle energy increase follows the same gain as the 16"/50 Mark 7 vs. the 16"/45 Mark 6 (just over 18%, likely a slight overestimate since the heavier shell will stay in the barrel slightly longer to be pushed by the propellant gasses longer), the muzzle velocity will rise from 2525 fps on the Colorados to 2740 fps on the Lex/1920 SoDak guns
strong plank
Netflix is making a documentary about the Pepsi Harrier incident
spring briar
strong plank
richy you know about the incident right
back in the 90s Pepsi ran this promotion where buying Pepsi products would get you points, and if you got enough you could redeem them for prizes, mostly small stuff
as a joke, they ran a commercial saying that if you got 7mil points you could get a Harrier Jet
well someone found a loophole and tried, and it went to court
delicate beacon
It wasn't really a loophole.
They did use a trick though, you were allowed to buy the rewards with less then the full points by paying more.
Which was still waaaaay cheaper than a harrier.
strong plank
yeah it came out to like $700k
delicate beacon
Richiiiiiiie
delicate beacon
Are you collecting shell drawings?
spring briar
Always
delicate beacon
And are you attempting to turn all of them in your scale?
delicate beacon
Well I could always use more images for my book.
And photos from random other books or some swede with a camera in their archives aren't that professional nor do I have the rights to those.
delicate beacon
Help, its bedtime and I find nice hooks for information
glass trail
Netflix is making a documentary about the Pepsi Harrier incident
the one where they were gonna give a free harrier?
oh yeah
that one
đ
thorny jewel
The Lexington-class was supposed to be build as battlecruiser, however due to the washington naval treaty which limited the use of naval guns, their construction were converted to aircraft carrier instead and becoming the successor of USS Langley (CV-1)
strong plank
the treaty didn't limit the use of naval guns
ivory ridge
well they did but that wasnt the reason the lexis were converted
strong plank
well sorta
limited the size and caliber of guns but not really their use
what was more important were the restrictions on tonnage and warship construction
delicate beacon
It indirectly limited their availability by limiting the size and amount of platforms that could carry them.
ivory ridge
frankly i dont even know what limited their use would mean here so i just thought they meant limited the gun size but whatever
strong plank
I read 'limited their use' as like
limited how many were in use
my brain is still in nuclear mode
strong plank
when have we ever said no to that question
ivory ridge
valid trout
no idea
tough quail
there's plenty of American ones, Germany not so much
tribal mortar
Brooklyn classes
valid trout
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669133963864047626/1036416558832046130/un...
what guns are those anyway
ivory ridge
Littorio
valid trout
are ok
tribal mortar
Carrier Nelson 
valid trout
hmm
thorny jewel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KRI_Nanggala_(402)
She was sunk during Torpedo Exercise
delicate beacon
stiff mauve
somber knoll
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KRI_Nanggala_(402)
She was sunk during Torpedo Ex...
sunk during torp exercise but her commander ordered to dive beyond maximum depth rather than surfacing
bruh moment
maiden citrus
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/373291983751348227/1032334603064725564/...
delicious
dapper parcel
that machinery arrangement tho
delicate beacon
Hmm the 12cm Fullautos from Swedish CBS designs look more akin the Dutch No. 9 than the semi autos of the DDs.
Time to dig deeper
Aaaaand the source runs dry
manic latch
Aaaaand the source runs dry
cinder escarp
12cm fullauto, real TAK120 hours
delicate beacon
Based Dutch Battlecruiser secondaries
cinder escarp
Considering the swedes actually also made a 155mm Fullauto, the madmen
(and both the 15.5 and 12cm guns are literal autocannnons, recoil driven. It's not a semi-auto with externally powered autoloader)
delicate beacon
Time to dig for the 12cm akan from 1940ish
zealous vine
Can dive bomber AP bombs even over-penetrate
delicate beacon
In theory. Though I assume they're fit with a delayed impact fuze.
zealous vine
I see
Has there ever been a disorienting-purposed device on the scale of plane payloads or artillery bombardment
(I mean, normal explosions do disorient infantry a lot by themselves, but is there one that is less physically impacting, and just nearly purely for causing mass-blindness, and tinnitus)
humble mulch
I believe those types of things are banned as iirc they are more modern weapons.
Larger shells can do the tinnitus thing and give far more shell shock iirc, like battleship shells but Iâm also unaware of any devices with that purpose or in the same scale
zealous vine
They're banned because they're more modern??
manic latch
delicate beacon
They're banned because they cause permanent suffering without huge tactical advantage.
Its hard to make a flasbang that works at 50m but doesn't wreck someone at 5.
humble mulch
More modern weapons systems have more strict rules to them
And stuff like that requires more to make them iâd assume
zealous vine
They're banned because they cause permanent suffering without huge tactical adva...
Understandable on the permanent part..
But tactically..if you can break the people, why break their equipment/logistics
Ain't got people, ain't got no enemy to use guns
manic latch
humble mulch
Cause stuff like that generally speaking isnât ok
And is literally walking towards committing a war crime
zealous vine
Its hard to make a flasbang that works at 50m but doesn't wreck someone at 5.
Well, 5m seems more like a side effect.
If I got hit by a flying metal object, I'd probably get injured too.. moreso getting point-blank flashed
delicate beacon
If you could do it safely it's probably permitted. Unless there's a treaty that basically said "we just give up"
zealous vine
And is literally walking towards committing a war crime
Alright alright..
manic latch
Yeah there is a reason Napalm or Chemical weapons are not well liked
They are more effective on people than machines
delicate beacon
Probably
zealous vine
Oh who am I kidding.. of course
humble mulch
Also why chemical warfare got on the ban list rather fast after ww1
delicate beacon
Sadly
manic latch
<:RenownThumbsUp:468866533490425857>
I'm sure you know this one
zealous vine
Sadly
delicate beacon
Unless you're doing some questionable expirementation (like Kremlin just linked) this isn't a good torture method. At least not to get people to talk.
zealous vine
I'm sure you know this one
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_PX
Ah yes, their plans to send fleets of I-13s across the entire globe just to eradicate a continent
delicate beacon
"please tell us what you remember whilst we make you forget everything"
manic latch
Ah yes, their plans to send fleets of I-13s across the entire globe just to erad...
You know what
It's a good plot starter for a ww2 zombie game
Japan use this bio weapons and zombies appear etc
Tho would be too similar to cod aw
delicate beacon
I remember a 50s zombie game pitch where you play as Housewives 
The idea was the virus was bound to the Y chromosome.
zealous vine
Funny idea: anti-aircraft flashbangs
manic latch
Fireworks?
zealous vine
Damn..
frigid karma
humble mulch
@manic latch I had a weird question, do you have any information at all on the Soviet 114th AT Regiment?
manic latch
<@688903088819404825> I had a weird question, do you have any information at all...
Oh God finding info about that thing is very hard indeed
Here is this but
humble mulch
Oh thank fuck
manic latch
Well I doubt it has much useful info at all
Just dates of is existence and couple of soldiers who served
frigid karma
Iâm so incredibly bored
spring briar
manic latch
Iâm so incredibly bored
Drink beer
spring briar
No
humble mulch
Interesting still better then nothing for me
frigid karma
Start a revolution
spring briar
humble mulch
Supposedly that Regiment was added to the Romanian 4th army
In 44/45 when they invaded the Czech
manic latch
Damn discord hates different alphabet
humble mulch
Yeah they do
But yeah wanted to know wtf was actually in this Regiment cause all I know is they existed. Wanted to see what they were equipped with and how much they helped the 4th Romanian army
delicate beacon
spring briar
Cute innit
delicate beacon
Very.
twin geode
mine is abduldeesaurus
spring briar
The FAL is based
spring briar
Belgian quality
twin geode
delicate beacon
Belgian 12,7mms were on Da Rooter
twin geode
sharpshooters
delicate beacon
Tirailleurs
twin geode
light infantry uniforms being green was an instance of camoflague being used
uniforms worn back then were bright and colorful u could see them distances away
twin geode
which went wrong once cause the 60th regiment of foot got confused for an american unit and shot at by friendly fire
frigid karma
blackpowder is cringe
twin geode
good guy
frigid karma
"yes i woud like to blind me and every one in a 10 foot radius because i fired"
spiral cedar
US Naval guns used black powder primers sewn into the nitrocellulose bagged charges, so they are technically rifles that use black powder
spiral cedar
frigid karma
twin geode
this went wrong when Madras soldiers thought the cartidges were madd out of pork and cow skins
made
frigid karma
ik, but i had to take a dig at it nonetheless
wasn't it pig / cow grease
not skin?
twin geode
i forgor
they were religious so
but it wasnt actually proven
just a rumor among the ranks
spring briar
Yeah biting the cartridge is no longer done in modern blackpowder shooting
Toxic n stuff
desert agate
the bush war is a forgotten war
good
twin geode
you brit?
desert agate
no
twin geode
but will be in all our hearts
frigid karma
you are technically british
desert agate
it was an imperialist remnant state that existed solely to profit a white minority on the back of the abuse of the original inhabitants of the land
twin geode
rhodesia didnt even follow apartheid completely
desert agate
the fact that it no longer exists is for all intents and purposes a good thing
Rhodesia was so racist even South Africa told them to cool it
twin geode
Rhodesian African Rifles
twin geode
selous scouts had black people serving in them
twin geode
yup
frigid karma
didn't stop them from being discriminated on
also guess what
those units suffered much higher casualty rates and service times
spring briar
selous scouts had black people serving in them
That is also the âconfederacy wasnt racistâ argument
Which it still was
desert agate
okay and some jews helped the nazis that doesnt change the fact that the state itself was racist corrupt and built upon oppression at its core
manic latch
america had black units in ww1
Union had them in civil war too
frigid karma
fail to see how this is relevant
spring briar
Union had them in civil war too
Krem you mean the confederacy
frigid karma
"wow look guys!!!"
spring briar
frigid karma
"our nation put black people into uniform and sent them off to active combat!"
how nice of them
manic latch
Krem you mean the confederacy
I think they weren't a "unit" on that side
spring briar
twin geode
mugabe death squads targetted black rhodesian soldiers specifically
desert agate
the bush war vets i know and have spoken to are employing their services and skills in the favour of nations that do not engage in what is for all intents and purposes the systematic genocide of a native people
frigid karma
allowing black people to serve means shit if you don't give them basic human rights
twin geode
on some image the black soldiers faces are blurred out for their safety
desert agate
mugabe death squads targetted black rhodesian soldiers specifically
collaborators have always been the targets of resistance operations this isnt new
manic latch
Can we all stop talking about this now pls
Yeah let's speak of history of romantic love 
desert agate
recognising that some people are useful doesnt discount the states racial policies at large
manic latch
twin geode
ok i have no more argument
spring briar
spiral cedar
The long-overdue Confederate implementation of the concept of black soldiers became something of a joke. Two companies of mixed free blacks and slaves (apparently medics) were assembled and put on exhibition in Richmond. A week before Richmond fell, these blacks paraded and went through the manual of arms, without arms, before thousands of onlookers. At least one such review was canceled because black soldiers had not been issued uniforms, equipment, or arms.
Bruce Levine explains the significance of this desperate end-of-war effort to arm blacks: âThe whole sorry episode provides a fitting coda for our examination of modern claims that thousands and thousands of black troops loyally fought in Confederate armies. This strikingly unsuccessful last-ditch effort constituted the sole exception to the Confederacyâs steadfast refusal to employ African American soldiers. As General Ewellâs long-term aide-de-camp, Major George Campbell Brown, later affirmed, the handful of black soldiers mustered in the southern capital in March of 1865 constituted âthe first and only black troops used on our side.ââ Black soldiery in the Confederacy began late and ended with a whimper.
In contrast, the Union used 180,000 black soldiers and 20,000 black sailors to achieve victory. Black Union soldiers fought in forty major engagements and about four hundred and fifty other firefights. Sixteen blacks received medals of honor.
No black units fought for the Confederacy. The proposal to arm and liberate slaves failed âbecause of opposition by both blinkered masters and clear-eyed slavesâslaves who had their eyes on a much bigger prize than the one that Jefferson Davis was belatedly and grudgingly offering.â Protection of slavery had trumped the military needs of the Confederacy and demonstrated the extent to which slavery and white supremacy were the primary foundations of that would-be nation.
manic latch
>>> The long-overdue Confederate implementation of the concept of black soldiers...
Yeah
manic latch
I just want to get watched by my love
twin geode
who
twin geode
im lost
spring briar
Yeah dont worry about it
twin geode
i got forced to join
twin geode
idk what im doing
twin geode
HMS Surpise
delicate beacon
Not to be confused with HrMs Cerberus
desert agate
what happened to my HMAS Cerberus?
spiral cedar
Not to be confused with Operation Cerberus
desert agate
to be confused with HMVS Cerberus (theyre the same ship)
not to be confused with HMAS Cerberus (naval base)
such a creative navy
unlimited possibility for names
and yet we keep using the same ones
over and over
delicate beacon
De Ruyter nr 10 my beloved.
desert agate
i mean you've had 400 years to have 10 De Ruyters
we had 5 Sydneys in the last century
at this rate in 400 years we'll be at 20 ships to have the name Sydney
delicate beacon
HMAS Sydney ||harbour||
delicate beacon
Space Battleship De Ruyter
desert agate
would be a banger
desert agate
manic latch
desert agate
love you too riche some homo
spring briar
manic latch
I only love one person
But I like Rich
desert agate
anyway i do gotta sleep cya nerds
manic latch
Peter the Great was familiar with New Holland through his connections with the Dutch, and the Empire in the 18th century tried several times, unsuccessfully, to reach the Australian continent
desert agate
russia and australia have some weird historical relationships
manic latch
russia and australia have some weird historical relationships
It's full ups and downs ye
First you have this
As Australia was engaged in a gold rush in the 1840s and 1850s, in conjunction with the Crimean War between the UK and Russia, paranoia of a Russian invasion gripped the Colony, and Russophobia increased. In 1855, the Colony built fortifications around Admiralty House and completed Fort Denison on Pinchgut Island, as the emergence of the Pacific Ocean Fleet of the Imperial Russian Navy furthered the fear of a Russian invasion of the Colonies, and rumours spread that the Russians had invaded the Port of Melbourne.
But Then you have this
Seven years after the conclusion of the Crimean War, the Russian corvette, and flagship of the Russian Pacific squadron, Bogatyr visited Melbourne and Sydney in 1863. The corvette visited the cities on a navigational drill under the Commander of the Russian Pacific Fleet Rear Admiral Andrey Alexandrovich Popov, and the ship and crew were welcomed with warmth. Popov paid Governor of Victoria Henry Barkly and Governor of New South Wales John Young protocol visits, and they in turn visited the Russian ship. The Russians opened the ship for public visitation in Melbourne, and more than 8,000 Australians visited the ship over a period of several days. The goodwill visit was a success, but Bogatyr's appearance in Melbourne did put the city on a war footing, as noted in The Argus which reported that the ship managed to approach Melbourne unnoticed, ostensibly due to the lack of naval forces in Port Phillip Bay.
spring briar
russia and australia have some weird historical relationships
Try not to involve China
manic latch
HMAS Norman in October 1941 visited Arkhangelsk bringing a British trade delegation from Iceland; marking the beginning of the Lend-Lease program in support of the Soviet Union
manic latch
The relations between China and Russia go back to the 17th-century, when the Qing dynasty tried to drive Russian settlers out of Manchuria, ended by the signing of the Treaty of Nerchinsk.
spring briar
Indeed
Every time something happens on a border region in Qing Russia usually sent troops in it
manic latch
Hmm
Say if Majors were united
Like the top 10 countries with military
United in same ideal etc
What would they develop their weapons against
I guess it will be either against their own weapons. Dunno like new fighter that your best radar would have hard time seeing
Or focus on anti terrorism weapons?
delicate beacon
subtle prawn
The US Navyâs night fighter programme known as Project Affirm began in April 1942 at the naval air station at Quonset Point in Rhode Island with the aim of experimenting, developing, and evaluating all information relative to night fighting equipment and tactics.
The Vought Corsair was chosen as the best available aircraft. The F4U-2 is an experimental night fighter version of the F4U-1. It is modified with the addition of an air interception radar placed in a radome on the starboard wing. The exhaust stubs have also been modified to hide as much of the exhaust flame as possible for night-time operations. A total of 34 examples will be completed.
VF(N)-75 was established as the first night fighter squadron of the US Navy in April 1943. In August part of the squadron was sent to the Pacific and based in the Solomons as a shore-based rather than carrier-based unit. Today, it is Lieutenant Hugh D. O'Neil who scores the historic kill.
Project Affirm continues back in the United States, training pilots to fly and fight at night. Pilots have to adjust to being deprived of their sight, trusting in their instruments to guide them. Instruction is provided in special radar-equipped Douglas SBD Dauntless dive bombers. This allows instructors to provide one-on-one training on interception. After this, trainees move on to their own aircraft. Carrier training is performed on an escort carrier. All in all, 29 weeks are needed to produce a carrier-qualified night fighter pilot.
Picture: U.S. Navy Vought F4U-2 Corsair night fighters from Night Fighting Squadron VFN-101 aboard the aircraft carrier USS Intrepid. 1944.
Source: U.S. Navy.```
eternal veldt
Copenhagen
The Danish had a couple interesting ships of the line going for them too
cinder escarp
And yes, that massive spanish loss is trafalgar
eternal veldt
some rather..interesting stern galleries
Also, a bit of a different tangent, we have this one:
privately builds a heavily armed warship of the day
claims that it is only a "merchantman" that doesn't need the protection of a convoy
existence is enough to piss off Spain and to get the British guarantee that she will never be used militarily
gets seized then sold to the admiralty as a fourth rate ship of the line
HMS Mordaunt
delicate beacon
over 90% of the fleet tonnage lost
Jeez, thats even more than the Dutch during ww2
eternal veldt
Actually, good lord, look at Spain
from the apex of 203 to 3 by 1850
just over 50 years
cinder escarp
Yes, the spanish entirely implode starting with Trafalgar (although decline had started before that, that's when things just go straight to hell with no stop)
eternal veldt
Peninsular War definitely complicated things
I remember famous ships like Santa Ana getting burnt down in the later stages
cinder escarp
Goes from a legitimate naval superpower, to being able to be completely humiliated by the Dutch or Danes
remote monolith
the Dutch punch significantly above their weight for a long time
kicking out Spain from the seven provinces then joining the big players in colonial ambitions
spring briar
keen zealot
General dynamics DIVAD proposal, literally a GAU-8 mounted on a tank
manic latch
General dynamics DIVAD proposal, literally a GAU-8 mounted on a tank
China will grow larger
delicate beacon
Put it on a naval mount as CIWS!
manic latch
Put it on a naval mount as CIWS!
Isn't CIWS already a mount..
tough quail
General dynamics DIVAD proposal, literally a GAU-8 mounted on a tank
also known as the worst thing since cancer in armored warfare
delicate beacon
alpine onyx
delicate beacon
desert agate
who is that in the middle?
alpine onyx
Should be Exeter
spring briar
subtle prawn
manic latch
spring briar
subtle prawn
frigid karma
Bonk
rugged jetty
thats some nice naval camo
spiral cedar
ivory ridge
manic fractal
cinder escarp
Type 90 protoype
spring briar
https://vxtwitter.com/rgpoulussen/status/1197431038890463232
As a fully commissioned warship Courbet was brought up to Loch Striven to serve as a target ship for the Marine Aircraft Experimental Establishment based at RAF Helensburgh.
It stood in for the German battleship Tirpitz during Highball bouncing bomb trials because it was of a similar size. âDambusterâ pilots of 617 Squadron and MAEE pilots then bounced inert Highball bombs at Courbet in preparation for an attack on Tirpitz in Norway.
Rhu-based boffins were aboard Courbet to take recordings and score the hits by Mosquito and Wellington (left) as they battered the warship after bouncing Highballs over protective nets.
The recent 75th anniversary of D-Day is an opportunity to trace what happened to Courbet after the vessel left its mooring in the Gareloch.
Whitehall and the Free French authorities had plans for Courbet, which was turned into a âGooseberryâ, a block ship for Sword beach landings during the D-Day landings. Minus its engines and boilers it was fitted with some extra AA anti-aircraft guns.
Courbet was towed by the tugs Growler and Samsonia to Sword Beach as an obstruction to waves during troops landings. It also supplied covering fire manned by Free French sailors and British Army gunners.
Flying the Free French flag and a holed Cross of Lorraine she attracted the attention of the Luftwaffe besides the German batteries.
The German bombers thought that they had sunk the old battleship but it had been partly scuttled to form a permanent defence structure.
Courbet continued to give return fire throughout the landings, still proudly flying its battle-scarred French flag.
The enemy midget submarine Marder attacked and thought it had sunk Courbet during the nights of August 15-17, but it remained off Sword beach throughout the landings.
Still in the Highball target markings from Loch Striven, the vessel was eventually scrapped early in the 1950s.
naive crag
https://cnc.fandom.com/wiki/Gatling_tank_(Generals_1)
ayooo its C&C i play c&c 3 and 2 yuris revenge
manic latch
Zhuhai Airshow 2022
An Unknown 6x6 Wheeled VSHORAD System based on the HMV3 SX2220 Chassis
spring briar
please do not post such images
manic latch
What the fuck
manic latch
Is that a fletcher with German aa mounts for guns
strong plank
The gun layout made me think fletcher
rugged jetty
That's a type 1936 class destroyer with AA guns for main armaments
maiden citrus
germany can into dp
rugged jetty
Not really with 105mm guns
maiden citrus
it looks goofy
rugged jetty
Seems like a good idea on paper, in reality not so much
spring briar
delicate beacon
Why no Isaac Sweers or Jacob van Heemskerck 
spring briar
because God is dead and we killed him
spring briar
I'm sorry sanglune
the people clearly wanted another german premium fake ship
shrewd pecan
the German simps pay big money
manic latch
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1037361475888623716/1037387301023666216...
Manjuu looking at its next PR
tough quail
Based
spring briar
I'll play the fuck out of it
tough quail
Hell yeah
spring briar
Trento eater
ivory ridge
spring briar
manic latch
shoot him down now
chilly osprey
By Trento eater I assume we're talking about the 17,500-ton design, not Dupleix...?
spring briar
I eat Trentos whenever I please
ivory ridge
manic latch
I eat Trentos whenever I please
That's the spirit
Trento should be a ship Rich can't consume 
desert agate
excellent and rare footage of Melbourne
honestly id never even seen it until today
looks like someone dug it out of an archive
winter quiver
lol the legendary naval history channel reacts to AL
https://youtu.be/9pGzDAfOgU0
delicate beacon
"legendary"
desert agate
drach do be kinda hit or miss
delicate beacon
like italian shells?
desert agate
also animarchy is an irregular user of this channel
delicate beacon
Unde
spring briar
eugen as thumbnail
not gonna watch
delicate beacon
He's here? 
spring briar
if it were anyone else I'd have watched
delicate beacon
Richie, I watched the first half hour or so
desert agate
hes popped in on occasion
ivory ridge
like italian shells?
delicate beacon
I'll give you a tldw: blablablablablablablablablablabla
delicate beacon
https://tenor.com/view/i-live-in-your-walls-i-know-where-you-live-meme-cat-capti...
I'm going to charge rent to you.
desert agate
which reminds me as an aussie botelover myself i should flick him a DM
spring briar
drach when
when he needs to make a video on a topic:
defend the topic with your life
slander the middle sized european navies
germany bad
winter quiver
drach do be kinda hit or miss
Well for me it's either him or battle 360
Both are good
desert agate
w-who?
winter quiver
Battle 360 is pretty old but it was pretty good when it came to naval history at its time
delicate beacon
strong plank
battle 360 was that history channel show wasn't it
winter quiver
yes
desert agate
id rather watch infographics show tbh
oh i did find a neat little naval history channel recently tho
strong plank
Operations Room has treated me well so far
delicate beacon
Operations Room is great
delicate beacon
His quality seems to be going down though
humble mulch
I feel thereâs much better quality you can go too then battle 360
Tho I did watch that growing up
strong plank
wdym you don't like the gamecube graphics
winter quiver
Operations Room has treated me well so far
He's the one covered Operation Desert, and the event where Scharnhorst and Gneisenau escape the English channel right?
strong plank
he's covered a lot
humble mulch
Channel dash yeah
strong plank
scharn and gneis should be gold
desert agate
retrofits when?
delicate beacon
desert agate
oh wait never
delicate beacon
me when I keep finding shitty German guns in the archive
strong plank
they got metas
winter quiver
We get MEta
desert agate
kongou retros when
spring briar
Good history channels on youtube:
PBS eons @remote monolith
The Great War
history of china
those three
that's pretty much it
desert agate
world war 2 in real time is good
maiden citrus
pbs eons is based af
spring briar
isn't that The Great War?
desert agate
the front is good if you like that low level stuff
spring briar
but in his ww2 series?
desert agate
isn't that The Great War?
diff channels same people
strong plank
I've given up on Dark ___
desert agate
dark is trash
spring briar
dark?
desert agate
hm? whats up with milhist visualised?
spring briar
hyperfocus
strong plank
open history video
text to speech
desert agate
before going on to history
frigid karma
Milhist cited his sources
humble mulch
Like I just hit play and paint while it plays
strong plank
Milhist's stuff on [current event] has been pretty decent
frigid karma
So better than 90% of the genre
desert agate
yeah sometimes hyperfocus is good if you want someone else to drag out some sources for you
frigid karma
Whatâs wrong with milhist
humble mulch
Yeah he cites which is my main reason for watching
Cause itâs not made up and I could go check it
strong plank
I will confess I do occasionally watch T&P
frigid karma
Who
desert agate
i still like to use his video on how britain was never really on the brink of losing the battle of britain to dunk on wehrbs
strong plank
Task and Purpose
manic latch
I will confess I do occasionally watch T&P
I like his enthusiasm
winter quiver
Dark Seas is kinda lame tbh. I prefer his first channel Dark Docs which is actually more fitting for him considering his style's atmosphere. Since Dark likes to make things... well dark, his Docs channel is better than his Dark Seas channel which is about Naval History.
I'm not gonna listen to a dramatic video about the Yamato construction like it was some government conspiracy.
strong plank
he actually got to fire some of them
spring briar
mhv is alright
just not in the same tier as pbs eons or history of china
he tends to hyperfocus on a topic
without looking at the context
which is a issue
desert agate
oh also hypohistericalhistory
is excellent
goes into a lot of detail about battles in the South Pacific as well as discussing a lot of modern naval doctrine and how it all actually works
rapid junco
I mean the IWM has some stuff
Welp, that's an option
I'll be specific on what i want
desert agate
he also discussed a lot of Australian stuff so I do like his content by default
but then the front discusses a lot of australian stuff and i dont like him
k*ngs and generals
humble mulch
Tik history is alright
desert agate
god that channel
rapid junco
I'm searching for info/operations performed by squadrons 237 and 238
humble mulch
He cites
desert agate
Tik history is alright
that man thinks hitler was a socialist and downplays the holocaust
hes not alright
hes borderline dangerous
rapid junco
I only watched their Thomas Cochrane episode
Just because i personally like Thomas Cochrane
desert agate
kings and generals is a really bad channel and regularly gets details very wrong
rapid junco
but then the front discusses a lot of australian stuff and i dont like him
I only discoovered his channel on his video about Brazil in WW2
And i like some of the videos and dislike some others
rapid junco
kings and generals is a really bad channel and regularly gets details very wrong
Yeah
Like
On Thomas Cochrane's episode
humble mulch
He for sure has hot takes
rapid junco
They called Jose de San Martin a "Chilean General"
desert agate
I only discoovered his channel on his video about Brazil in WW2
And i like some ...
hes pretty low brow which i mean is fine for some people but i like more detail in my videos
rapid junco
And he was argentine
desert agate
lmfao
humble mulch
But like he still presents shit in a decent manner and cites pretty well
spring briar
PBS eons teaching me about a sea cucumber but having me hooked as if it were the best movie of the year
humble mulch
I just
rapid junco
hes pretty low brow which i mean is fine for some people but i like more detail ...
Yeah
Like, on his video about minor allied powers
humble mulch
Donât touch shit dealing with the Holocaust on YouTube or Hitler in general
Cause thatâs never gonna be a good idea
desert agate
But like he still presents shit in a decent manner and cites pretty well
yes but given the shitness of his takes its impossible to determine what he says that isnt clouded by his trashy opinions
so hes kind of discredited
also hi pretz
rapid junco
He proceeded to mention the 1st fighter Squadron's data
As what the whole FAB and MB did on the Atlantic...
humble mulch
Hi pretz
chilly flower
I will vouch for these two till the day I die
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmpahmxWXajV0-tuMMzSzAg
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCynGrIaI5vsJQgHJAIp9oSg
Two of the best aviation channels out there, hands down
humble mulch
chilly flower
also yes I am alive again hello
desert agate
hes back
strong plank
thoughts on Armor Cast?
desert agate
military aviation history is a solid channel
humble mulch
Also donât I watch anything of tik hists thatâs like a take of any kind
Like his battle for Stalingrad video is quite good
desert agate
thoughts on Armor Cast?
armour is spelt wrong 0/10
spring briar
I will vouch for these two till the day I die
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC...
why is his name
bismarck
why
rapid junco
And also
The Front
On his first "Brazil in WW2" video
He said something on the end that actually pissed me a little
desert agate
nah jk im not huge on modern armoured warfare so cant really comment on him
maiden citrus
PBS eons teaching me about a sea cucumber but having me hooked as if it were the...
like I said, pbs eons (and its sister channels) are based
rapid junco
He said something on the end that actually pissed me a little
Which was
"i think their peformance in Italy kind of makes off for the self sinking of the cruiser Bahia.."
Almost giggling
desert agate
armoured carriers has a youtube channel as well thats pretty good so long as you acknowledge that they do have a bias
frigid karma
why is his name
bismarck
Still mad about â71?
desert agate
frigid karma
humble mulch
Lazy pig isnât to liked here right
spring briar
no
why would I
humble mulch
Cause heâs got some takes
frigid karma
Lazerpig
desert agate
ugh lazerpig
frigid karma
You mean?
frigid karma
Drunk mostly
chilly flower
I will vouch for these two till the day I die
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC...
also while both can be somewhat clickbaity for some vids it's mostly just because of Youtube's shit, and still covers the topic in question well
desert agate
he has some opinions
humble mulch
Every time I watch something of his I feel I have to go actually read in depth on everything he said
frigid karma
Fun to watch for a laugh
desert agate
too many people think he's a bible
humble mulch
Yeah
desert agate
and will say that hes some sort of divine all knowing god
when no
hes a drunkard on the internet saying vaguely correct things most of the time
strong plank
imo he falls more into the entertainment category
frigid karma
Thatâs what his fanbase is like
desert agate
i was in his discord for the grand total of about 6 hours
that was more than enough for me
frigid karma
Hate the fans, not the man
humble mulch
Or is he too drunk
frigid karma
Heâs pretty funny and thatâs all I really care
desert agate
absolute hell on earth with some of the worst takes i have ever seen come from anyone that isnt named maine
frigid karma
And he doesnât try to play himself off as a credible person either
maiden citrus
most of his videos I've seen have been true but not sourced much
humble mulch
Ah thatâs still not good
frigid karma
The French tank video had me in tears
humble mulch
Iâm scared to watch that one
desert agate
he also plagiarised from spookston
frigid karma
Really now?
desert agate
yes
frigid karma
Where
desert agate
in his reformers video
frigid karma
Ic
desert agate
he ripped a good chunk of that video from spooks
frigid karma
The Bradley vid?
desert agate
and also directly used a screenshot from spookstons video
without saying where he got it from
frigid karma
Hmm, thatâs certainly not good
desert agate
in context it almost seemed like he took the sc himself
desert agate
but yeah im not a huge fan of lazerpig
i mean ill watch him
hes funny
but hes not educational
frigid karma
He never claimed to be either
ivory ridge
You can always steal content from furries
strong plank
yeah he's more in the entertainment category
ivory ridge
it's always morally correct
desert agate
me stealing from undefined (his pfp is an animal that makes him a furry)
maiden citrus
true
maiden citrus
untrue
desert agate
your pasta wives are mine now
desert agate
wtf qwerty said something funny
humble mulch
desert agate
christmas miracle that one
strong plank
must be someone's alt
frigid karma
Thank you, thank you
manic latch
Hit stole crippling depression
Yeah I used to be happy once as well
cinder escarp
Lazerpig
In my circle of relatively knowledgeable armor autists, we use force each other to watch those as punishment rituals.
frigid karma
In my circle of relatively knowledgeable armor autists, we use force each other ...
Youâve got to admit though, he can be pretty funny
maiden citrus
considering the takes you've circled, I can see why you would think that
cinder escarp
I cringe too hard to laugh most of the time, it's up there with Matsimus and Task & Purpose. Thankfully, I get the option to go take a nap and not think about them for longer.
spring briar
Matsimus does not proclaim to be an expert though
manic latch
Red Effect
delicate beacon
manic latch
You know
I refit a fucking gangut with 9 406mm in that game
frigid karma
having a versailles treaty debate with a german
Annex his Rhineland
desert agate
can i repost this elsewhere?
spring briar
the Brandenburg class and its consequences
chilly osprey
can i repost this elsewhere?
I would prefer not since the other participant's name isn't blocked in the image I posted. Which I should have done, tbh
frigid karma
UA:D the historical simulator
chilly osprey
Though if you cover up their name I don't mind. I'd prefer not to name-and-shame.
chilly osprey
Thanks
spring briar
it's just dumb that UAD gives all german pre dreads a third gun slot on the middle line just because the brandenburg class existed
spiral cedar
spring briar
Forbin next to Tourville in Alexandria
manic latch
https://youtu.be/eAjud8wGaNY
Soviets: Just build us a very good BB (So we can use its technology)
US: How bout this?
Soviets: Lord in Heaven
subtle prawn
Rereleasing ships with a different flag is nothing new for WoWS
frigid karma
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669133963864047626/1037497441479569498/un...
Rawr x3
frigid karma
Itâs HE with normal AP
spring briar
But why
frigid karma
Yueyang with one more turret
But why wouldnât I just play a Wooster
If the reload is twice as bad
Kek
ivory ridge
Italian supership waiting room
spring briar
Population: 2
ivory ridge
no
delicate beacon
Explains why half the blueprints were in French.
spring briar
I see
spring briar
Show
spring briar
subtle prawn
tough quail
rheinmetal
spiral cedar
Inhale
Exhale
Used 1.25 instead of 1.5
frigid karma
Inhale
Exhale
<:NAGAFUCK:919396503028654180>
Used 1.25 instead of 1.5
how do you mess that up?
spiral cedar
SoDak has 1.25, Iowa has 1.5
spiral cedar
Outer hull thickness
junior trench
weird
considering even the prewar cruisers have double course 0.75" hulls
double course 1.5" would be an absolute meme though
spiral cedar
It only makes a 3-4 fps and ~0.05 deg difference anyway
(except for decapping purposes but I did that right the first time)
tough quail
thats so goofy
spiral cedar
Bizzare
tough quail
man i hate it when i go to buy my imported japanese battleship and the crew scrubbed the chyanthemum off before it was taken
frigid karma
man i hate it when i go to buy my imported japanese battleship and the crew scru...
you bought the chinese bootleg version
typical westerner
can't tell chinese and japanese people apart đ
tough quail
no it's just that finding a good arisaka makes me want to fucking hang myself
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
spiral cedar
@maiden citrus @jagged monolith @spring briar @tough quail @eternal veldt @junior trench @ivory ridge
Iowa's immune zone against her own guns, using her 1943 shells and her 1944+ shells. RC = reduced charge to give her the same MV as the 16"/45 Mark 6 gun for better deck pen
maiden citrus
interesting
spiral cedar
I should probably note that decapping is the dominant cause of the shape of the belt curve past 65 deg TA, but if you want to know what it looks like if the cap is never knocked off, just look at the various South Dakota IZs I've done
zealous zephyr
200 now <:sanderp:754868116483473479>
cope
alpine onyx
"untold" and Midway in the same sentence
With how some worship that battle as the sole turning point of the Pacific war, like the second coming of Trafalgar, yeah, sure, untold
spiral cedar
jets
Ah yes, the IJA
No, the DB bombs would have been just fine for anti-shipping
alpine onyx
Next video to be titled "The untold truth of HMS Warspite, how a single warship defeated half of the Kriegsmarine and Regia Marina"
spiral cedar
Ah yes, dispersing the Japanese (Army) aircraft carriersâŚ.????
One blob = dispersed apparently
spiral cedar
no
alpine onyx
better that way, would be even less useful than Houshou for flight ops
spiral cedar
Battleship Yamamoto
Also, they call sailors âsoldiersâ
Also
âMajor General Spruanceâ
spiral cedar
frigid karma
BRUH
text to speech immediately
the comments are hilarious, but the like;dislike ratio is 473;5
what
spiral cedar
alpine onyx
Internet doesn't care about the historical accuracy
frigid karma
no the comments are universally bashing the shit out of him
there is not a single one that is remotely positive about the video
that's a lot of Tones
spiral cedar
Tons of Tones
alpine onyx
The more the merrier
spiral cedar
there is not a single one that is remotely positive about the video
Not sure how to categorize this one
frigid karma
aka jee
spiral cedar
frigid karma
also interesting how uh
he entirely ignores the island itself when talking about the force lineup
like ok i know the midway-based bombers actually ended up doing fuck all because glide bombing lol
but still
you should've brought them up
did you know the US fleet and IJN fleet were actually sailing 500 meters parallel from each other on their way to midway
no one noticed each other because they didn't have their morning coffee yet
spiral cedar
Ships of the line did not sail in such tight formation
frigid karma
Ships of the line did not sail in such tight formation
they're not ships of the line though
spiral cedar
frigid karma
musashi didn't even have much aa at that time right
exotic lark
spiral cedar
Musashi wasnât even commissioned until August, 2 months later
spiral cedar
Youâre forgetting the 18.1â guns 
frigid karma
*ammo
spiral cedar
Who knows, maybe they could have friendly fired another Zero
frigid karma
"oh monkey paw, please make our 18 inch ammo be responsible for downing at least one american plane"
the monkey paw curls
alpine onyx
What would be an overwhelmingly disappointing equal to Musashi's AA? A New Mexico that did not get the uber modernization?
frigid karma
hood rocket
alpine onyx
HMS Hood, good idea
frigid karma
Tone and Chikuma
alpine onyx
need another coffee
frigid karma
is every cruiser a tone
alpine onyx
With some artistic liberty you can claim that Mogami and Tone are like, tots the same
spiral cedar
Are those dive bombers level bombing
frigid karma
yep
spiral cedar
Genius
frigid karma
torpedos also act like skip bomb
spiral cedar
They never expected them to use dive bombers and level bombers
frigid karma
hornet's run would've worked if her torpedo bombers dived
what's the arming distance? 600 meters?
just fly upwards and drop them from that high
alpine onyx
It works like that in Battlestations, can just dive bomb with torpedo bombers, drop the fish onto the deck and cause flooding