history

[ivory ridge]

unrelated to our unicorn but when you arent the oldest ship in the world so you have to make up another title

[tough quail]

it's just an american fullback

[manic latch]

Swept wing= F-14?

[strong plank]

it's an aardvark

[ivory ridge]

vark vark vark vark

[tough quail]

there we go regal got it

[glass trail]

wtf does that even mean

[tough quail]

aardvarks are based

[spring briar]

[maiden citrus]

yeah they are

they look a bit funny but they are cool

[strong plank]

the side by side cockpit does seem a little weird to me

[tough quail]

tandem cockpits are cool and good

[strong plank]

then again I've never seen one up close so

[tough quail]

get cozy with your lad in flight

[strong plank]

fight over the middle armrest on the way to Libya

[glass trail]

wait did they just attach a battleship gun that cant turn to the bottom of the bridge

[glass trail]

i was commenting on how that couldnt be a tomcat cus it had a single tail

[manic latch]

Always hated smol intakes

[strong plank]

anyway B21 is

[manic latch]

It feels suffocating

[solid mango]

How about

No intakes

[glass trail]

wait

[manic latch]

Rocket?

[solid mango]

[strong plank]

man this reminds me

[glass trail]

gliders???

[solid mango]

Yes

[tough quail]

tandem gang smash that motherfuckin like button

[ivory ridge]

It's not tuesday but it's Thursday here so just imagine the correct day

[maiden citrus]

yeah I was making fun of it lookin kinda goofy

[manic latch]

Ducks

[ivory ridge]

Tornado my beloved

[strong plank]

at the end of the summer I got to go to a Northrop Grumman briefing on low observability as part of the internship I was doing

[glass trail]

ngl sukhois are pretty nice looking

[strong plank]

and one of the dudes doing it was one of their LO engineers

someone asked

[tough quail]

alright watching things with my ladyfriend i will be back in soon

[strong plank]

"so in terms of stealth, what's the one part of the plane you wish you could remove?"

[manic latch]

Except su-17. Never liked that one

[strong plank]

man just goes "the engine"

[frigid karma]

[glass trail]

LMAO

understandable

[solid mango]

Undsrstandable

[frigid karma]

Tell the coddled Air Force fatass to pedal his way there

[glass trail]

turns out engines are loud

[frigid karma]

I like it

[manic latch]

It's not about being loud. But engines make heat

[solid mango]

Add silencers

[strong plank]

well no cuz with stealth you have to really work to hide stuff

[frigid karma]

That’s the point yes

[strong plank]

like how the F-22 and F-35's intakes are set up

[ivory ridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/684722676371423267/1027918607658786866/A2BA0994-9558-4983-AF00-E61D423C0ABF.mov

[solid mango]

Oh yes

[manic latch]

B-2 is best since engines aren't at back at all. Hidden above frame

[glass trail]

oh yeah harriers

💀

[maiden citrus]

thunderscreech, when plane is so loud it is stealth

[strong plank]

the B2 is aesthetic and I wish we built more

[manic latch]

Turboprop based

[maiden citrus]

shatter enemy equipment

no read plane location

[glass trail]

exactly

[maiden citrus]

sound fill entire sky

where plane at?

can't tell

[glass trail]

why stealth if you can break their anti-stealth

[manic latch]

https://tenor.com/view/spirit-gif-20726051

[strong plank]

ngl it took me the longest time to learn that the harrier was british

[solid mango]

trangle

[manic latch]

Bruh

[strong plank]

ok ok like

[glass trail]

sea harrier seems like a very us thing tbh

[strong plank]

a good 90% of the stuff the US fields is stuff they make

so I just never questioned it

[glass trail]

who woulda thunk the british developed vtol

[maiden citrus]

because the good harrier is us

[manic latch]

US doesn't call the planes by names more than they do for their models.

Hell does Harrier even have model name

AV-8

Damn I forgot

[glass trail]

when the uhm uh

[strong plank]

I remember reading those cross-section books in elementary school

[ivory ridge]

Did someone say Harrier
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/515583624083406848/1023465079246700544/t8i91hk01m391.png

[strong plank]

our library had one for the harrier and one for the apache

[maiden citrus]

Because of budgetary constraints, the UK abandoned the project in 1975. Following the UK's withdrawal, McDonnell Douglas extensively redesigned the earlier AV-8A Harrier to create the AV-8B.

[glass trail]

harrier -> loud, slow, super hot, epitome of not stealth

[maiden citrus]

[ivory ridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/515583624083406848/1023465078898561044/k5yz6wyh8hg91.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/515583624083406848/1023465079708078080/O0bNKKa.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/515583624083406848/1023465080060387438/9uh3ppjwvtl81.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/515583624083406848/1023467109977706506/9cixo013lnv71.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/515583624083406848/1023467111533789255/s5thxgnwdyw71.jpg

[solid mango]

Bye everyone i hab class

[frigid karma]

bye

[glass trail]

harrier is nice

[tough quail]

yos

[frigid karma]

[ivory ridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/515583624083406848/984280337817428008/9vrln34jbg491.jpg

discord pls

oh nvm im just lagging

[manic latch]

I don't like it

[ivory ridge]

did i ask

[manic latch]

Bro it looks weird

[glass trail]

when you get mad cus youre wrong

[manic latch]

There is no symmetry

[frigid karma]

ahaha

the salt

[strong plank]

all callsigns check in

[glass trail]

NOOOO

[frigid karma]

pissjug97 weapons hot

[ivory ridge]

it's mirrored tho

[glass trail]

what in gods name is that

[ivory ridge]

it's just the middle one being a bit off

[maiden citrus]

it's what they took from us

[ivory ridge]

the planes are the same on both sides

[ivory ridge]

🇩🇪 Tornado
🇺🇸 Harrier
🇩🇪 Eurofighter
🇫🇮 (?) F-18
🇸🇪 Gripen
🇩🇪 A400M

[glass trail]

typhoon is collective

[strong plank]

anyone have that recent pic of the aggressor F16s

[glass trail]

and the harrier is originally bri ish

[frigid karma]

isn't that a really old video game

[ivory ridge]

ok but that's a list of the

actual owner

of the plane

[ivory ridge]

not who made it or who designed it

[frigid karma]

published by bethesda, actually

[strong plank]

lol

[glass trail]

thats NASTY

[strong plank]

no so the

[ivory ridge]

The pic is not recent, i think

it's just linked in the article

[strong plank]

the F-22s usually stationed in Alaska are in Europe rn

[ivory ridge]

[strong plank]

so the aggressor squadron's filling in for em rn

[maiden citrus]

a harrier equivalent but initial testing it didn't perform as well as it should so it got canned

[strong plank]

there was a pic of them in the hangar all armed and everything

[ivory ridge]

i will never not post this
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/515583624083406848/1027436044305575976/1657113371452.mp4

[frigid karma]

air force conspiracy

they need a reason to exist

[ivory ridge]

this is recent but not from that deployment, it's an exercise

[shrewd pecan]

the trend of every 90s Navy aviation program failing so they need to turn to obese hornet

[ivory ridge]

Editor's Note: The Tweet with the pictures of the armed 18th Aggressor Squadron F-16Cs has since been deleted.

lol

[fierce sparrow]

[strong plank]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-memoji-gif-23490017

[frigid karma]

Us in 2022: curses, the documents with plymouth on them were ruined to water damage

[maiden citrus]

everyone could use a hornet

[frigid karma]

People in 2122: curses, the tweet containing the rare agressor f-16 was deleted

[strong plank]

THE SACRED TEXTS

[shrewd pecan]

wasn't there pictures of a aggressor F-35 or F-22 recently?

[spring briar]

F-22 vs 110 gun ship of the line

[strong plank]

oh yeah

[manic latch]

F'35 had J-20 camo

[shrewd pecan]

man

[strong plank]

kek

[shrewd pecan]

we should really just adopt the aggressor camos

[manic latch]

Ooh

[shrewd pecan]

they look so much nicer

[ivory ridge]

the aggressors dont have f-22s iirc, just the early versions of the F-35s

[frigid karma]

what is that?

[manic latch]

Do it do it do it do it

[unborn wyvern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAUOPHqx5Gs

[frigid karma]

a train?

[shrewd pecan]

I prefer the one with light grey combined with the dark grey more

[maiden citrus]

trick question the latter was a nuclear submarine all along

[frigid karma]

what the hell is a nuclear sub going to do against an f-22

[shrewd pecan]

depends on the nuclear sub

some of them have the ability to launch SAMs

[tough quail]

that first one of these is mmmmmmmmm

delicious

[shrewd pecan]

red text on black also looks good

[spring briar]

Set of a nuke in its tube
That’ll take care of the F22 as well

[manic latch]

Proximity fuse nuclear warhead

[spring briar]

[shrewd pecan]

I mean

[frigid karma]

ok what range would the fuze have to be on that

2 kilometers?

[manic latch]

It's a nuke. How fast blast expands

Hmm

[frigid karma]

idt the sub commander can just pilot it around with a joystick

the locations is presumably fixed

[ivory ridge]

Is this nsfw

[shrewd pecan]

it wasn't proxy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIR-2_Genie

but its close enough

[tough quail]

very lewd

[manic latch]

Damn

[tough quail]

UNGUIDED

[unborn wyvern]

air-to-air rocket
I want whatever those guys were on

[tough quail]

AIR TO AIR

NUCLEAR

ROCKETS

[frigid karma]

but a sub can't launch that

it's air-to-air

and also too based for combat

[maiden citrus]

implying the sub can't fly

[frigid karma]

implying the f-22 can't swim

[shrewd pecan]

the trident can

[ivory ridge]

the bomber gap
the bomber gap is real

[frigid karma]

that f-35 which fell in the ocean? it was simply the first trial of the amphibious f35

[manic latch]

Which one

[strong plank]

the navy's prototype antisubmarine F35

[ivory ridge]

what is this creature

[unborn wyvern]

"Sir! the gunsight on theses planes are terrible! how the hell are we supposed to take out a soviet bomber?"

"OH DON'T WORRY PILOT. YOU WON'T MISS"

[shrewd pecan]

shame that none of the NATF aircraft didn't even make it to the mock up stage

[ivory ridge]

oh god it's still in service

[shrewd pecan]

she's gained a hump

[maiden citrus]

'we don't need to aim, have you seen the blast radius'

[spring briar]

U2 my beloved flying fridge

[manic latch]

What's making the foam tho. The drag?

[spring briar]

Yes

The plane was moving at the speed of the carrier also the engine

Is hot

You know

[manic latch]

Ooh

[spring briar]

[ivory ridge]

taking a bubbly bath

[manic latch]

That's cool ngl

[ivory ridge]

she deserves it

[tough quail]

give your f-35 a good scrub

[frigid karma]

Project Orion was a study of a spacecraft intended to be directly propelled by a series of explosions of atomic bombs behind the craft (nuclear pulse propulsion). - Wikipedia

[maiden citrus]

'oh no I fudged it, it's gonna-'
-massive explosion-
'oh'

[shrewd pecan]

o god AIM-152

[frigid karma]

ah, america

[shrewd pecan]

185 KM spamraam

[frigid karma]

nukes on anything larger than a revolver

[shrewd pecan]

that needed a radar guidance pod (for one of the proposals)

[manic latch]

Cheapest US weapon be like

[strong plank]

yall seen the cruise missile revolver

[ivory ridge]

unrelated but TIL the term Jacuzzi comes from a company that makes Hot Tubs and the founders were Italian

[maiden citrus]

yeh

it's a kleenix situation

[shrewd pecan]

the most expensive missile on the most expensive plane

[unborn wyvern]

USAF pilots watching the Tu-95 spiral out of control and into the ocean from just the shockwave from their F-89 shitbucket's Portable sun

[spring briar]

I find it commendable that the US has not accidentally nuked some poor Dutch farm while doing a military exercise in the cold war seeing as how they put nukes on everything with a processor

[manic latch]

Exactly

[frigid karma]

why dutch

specifically

[strong plank]

actually the vietnam war PBRs were propelled by jacuzzi

[ivory ridge]

he hates the dutch

[maiden citrus]

when you get told to fire your rocket and it turns out the rocket was made by stark industries and made an explosion 1,000x bigger than expected

[frigid karma]

why not germany?

[spring briar]

I should’ve said your house Qwerty

[strong plank]

the
the cruise missile revolver

[shrewd pecan]

JASSM MAXING!

[frigid karma]

https://tenor.com/view/i-live-in-your-walls-i-know-where-you-live-meme-cat-caption-gif-25921313

[shrewd pecan]

I'M GONNA JASSMMMMMMMMMM

[spring briar]

Russian roulette with that

Who goes first

[frigid karma]

cruise missile revolver ocelot

[strong plank]

man

my IR professor was explaining cruise missiles in class today

[ivory ridge]

I dont remember what mald stands for but is funny

[frigid karma]

mad + bald

mald

[spring briar]

I do not

[unborn wyvern]

man if that happened in real life the US DOD would be Pissed

THAT WEAPON IS NOT WITHIN DESIGNATED PERAMATERS AND POOLICE THAT MOOSTACHE

[manic latch]

Tfw from Soviet history in ww2 to cruise missiles

[ivory ridge]

No the uh, missile

[strong plank]

showed a video to demonstrate, and it showed a tomahawk hitting a sumner

[ivory ridge]

Which i just posted

[frigid karma]

oh

Miniature Air-Launched Decoy

[shrewd pecan]

I mean

[spring briar]

Matsushimaaaa

[shrewd pecan]

it does what its intended to do

make AA crews MALD

[frigid karma]

not necessarily

it's a decoy

[manic latch]

....Tomahawk? You sure it wasn't Harpoon?

[frigid karma]

so they should be going "yes! we downed something"

[maiden citrus]

it's more a 'we know, but the weapon is classified' sort of meme, like vt fuses

[shrewd pecan]

it has a radar jammer

[frigid karma]

ahh

nvm

[shrewd pecan]

combined with the ability to mimic the radar signature of other aircraft

[strong plank]

ill find the vid when I have time

[shrewd pecan]

shame the warthunder A-6 leak that showed the thing with shrikes didn't come true

[ivory ridge]

Nukes dont count

[frigid karma]

antimatter bombs

why use EMP to disable electronics of weapon

when you can delete weapon from existence

[maiden citrus]

'I will launch a nuke to emp!'

'alright well that's nuclear war and detected the millisecond the silo door opens so see ya'

[frigid karma]

b-b-but it was in call of duty

that scene was hype as fuck though

[ivory ridge]

You know what else is in call of duty

[frigid karma]

your mom

[ivory ridge]

competent russians

[manic latch]

Had to bring that up huh Undef

[maiden citrus]

people actually have played cod?

for the story no less?

[ivory ridge]

Correct

[frigid karma]

i mean you and like 2 guys kill 300 russians storming a fast food restaurant

so

[manic latch]

Bro there is a mission of cold war where you literally storm KGB HQ with 4 guys

[strong plank]

Imagine the psychological uses for mald

[ivory ridge]

Ok but they Conquer europe in a week and get to the east coast

[frigid karma]

and then you kill 10 billion of them

alone

so it kinda balances it out

[frigid karma]

oh and they rappel down from helicopters in the middle of the line of fire

[manic latch]

Then 1 guy stops it. It's like Doom really.

[frigid karma]

[manic latch]

I bet Chinese will come in future cods as big enemy too

[maiden citrus]

defend the hot dog place

[manic latch]

Or maybe not given market

[frigid karma]

not unless cn stops buying games

[shrewd pecan]

probably not

[ivory ridge]

They can't

[frigid karma]

it'll be nk

or mexicans

[strong plank]

RAMIREZ DEFEND THE BURGER TOWN

[ivory ridge]

They had to reskin china to NK

[frigid karma]

which was what the newest cod did

[maiden citrus]

one would hope but you know

[manic latch]

But. In BF-4 it was China

[frigid karma]

it's actually pretty fucking hype though

[frigid karma]

it sold uh

0 copies there

[manic latch]

Oof

[maiden citrus]

and

[shrewd pecan]

Battlefield doesn’t really have a presence in the Chinese market

[maiden citrus]

?

[spring briar]

Undy why did Italy put a single 10” and a twin 8” gun on an armoured cruiser hull

[shrewd pecan]

Vs COD that does

[ivory ridge]

[spring briar]

And then export it

[frigid karma]

man

[spring briar]

Succesfully

[ivory ridge]

Garibaldi class?

[maiden citrus]

oh no our call of duty that is about killing nazis sold very poorly in 1940s germany

[frigid karma]

you get to fight cartels, iranians and mexican army in the newest game

[ivory ridge]

Sold to Argentina, spain, japan and somewhere else i forgor

[spring briar]

To the Japonesese and some south americans iirc?

[frigid karma]

wackiest plot i'd ever seen, but it's cool

i just want waw remastered though

that black cats mission

[maiden citrus]

that does sound like a cod plot I would expect

[manic latch]

Why not go simple way of uhh

Rogue nations or terrorists

[spring briar]

Its cute tho

[manic latch]

Worked for topgun

[frigid karma]

that's exactly what they did

hell

[junior trench]

"rogue" nations with Su-57s

lol

[frigid karma]

every time russia was the villain it's always a rogue general

[junior trench]

then again

[manic latch]

And F-14

[ivory ridge]

Ok just those

[junior trench]

Russia is a rogue nation

so it fits

[manic latch]

Russia has F-14

[junior trench]

but they're actually all like that under orders irl

[frigid karma]

also

maverick kinda just pussied around the iran name

cod just went

[ivory ridge]

Even with the old rules that they dont follow anymore japan could've gotten theirs in AL

[frigid karma]

"here's a missile"

"blow up general ghorbrani of iran"

[junior trench]

BF3 you're straight up invading Iran

[maiden citrus]

can't wait till we get uss olympia in al

[spring briar]

What was the idea with the single 254 anyways

[strong plank]

Are any of the CoDs worth playing

[ivory ridge]

Why are you asking me i don't know anything about that era of warships

[strong plank]

I’ve actually never played one

[ivory ridge]

[spring briar]

Ok

[junior trench]

all the CoDs before regenerating health were fun

[frigid karma]

the newest one is pretty good actually

and mw19

don't touch the ones in between

[ivory ridge]

Ask phoenix maybe he knows

[junior trench]

health regen is blegh

[frigid karma]

waw is also a decent one

[junior trench]

make me dread wondering where the next medkit is

[frigid karma]

cod ww2 is also underrated

[junior trench]

not this "if I hide the bullet holes close"

[frigid karma]

cleve

if you hide in cod waw the bullet holes will not close

the japanese have like 40 grenades per man in veteran

there's a mission where you can die from a grenade while in a plane i shit you not

some dude in a pt boat just yells kobe and can lob a grenade into your seat

[spring briar]

Maybe if you hide for long enough you can get a live skin bridge graft

(Do not look up skin grafting WW2)

[shrewd pecan]

I am extremely tempted to do that now

[frigid karma]

don't

i've seen them before

ww1 actually looks less brutal than ww2 grafting lmao

[shrewd pecan]

👁️ I have dared ventured into the DSR-50 page on pixiv I fear no god

[frigid karma]

do it

then

[spring briar]

It’s quite amazing that they pioneered that in WW2

[frigid karma]

btw waw does not allow you to do any sort of hiding

[shrewd pecan]

that's honestly not that bad

[frigid karma]

they will grenade your ass to kingdom come

[shrewd pecan]

interesting tho

[spring briar]

Using live skin to keep blood circulation to wounds or amputated parts

[shrewd pecan]

yeah

[spring briar]

Very cool

But I can only imagine the despair of having to sit for a month with your thumb attached to your nose

Or your ear to your lip

[shrewd pecan]

yeah doesn't really seem

[spring briar]

Ayo the new airpods looking wack

[shrewd pecan]

the most pleasant

[frigid karma]

at least you can lie down with your thumb attached to your nose

some chinese punishments put a board around your neck

good luck sleeping

[spring briar]

Chinese

Europe banned cruel punishment in the 1700s iirc

Or even 1600s

[shrewd pecan]

shame that AIM-152 got thrown on the post war chopping block

[spring briar]

Missiles turn me off ngl
It’s weird

[shrewd pecan]

unlike the uhhhhh GD/Westinghouse design

the Hughes/Raytheon one was rather interesting

ramjet propelled missile with greater range than the Phoenix

in a package the size of a AMRAAM

[spring briar]

But is it a dynamite gun shell?

[shrewd pecan]

ok now you have my interest

[strong plank]

Man I love watching military tech promos from the 80s

[spring briar]

[strong plank]

They always have the best music

[spring briar]

Used on a class of 3 US ships

[shrewd pecan]

https://youtu.be/xqDgn-qXr0E 👁️

[frigid karma]

just think of them as smart HE

[spring briar]

Dynamite compresses air in a seperate tube which then launches the projectile

Its basically an air rifle

But big

[shrewd pecan]

interesting

[spring briar]

Big nerf gun

The ballistics where

Uh

Yeah

[chilly osprey]

Oh I see Richy discovered the wormhole that is the Garibaldi-class

[spring briar]

I knew of them but only now just kinda

Like

Why

[chilly osprey]

So this is kind of the era for the RM when the alternative to answering an open ended question was '254mm gun' instead of 'yes'

They put them on cruisers half the size of the Garibaldi-class

But the general ethos of the Garibaldi-class was 'make a cruiser that can fight like a battleship'

Hence the addition of 254mm and 203mm guns on top of the 152mm or 152mm + 120mm guns

Keep in mind, they were built in the era when gun range was very low, as in several thousand yards, and thus a single heavy gun in a turret wasn't exactly the dumbest thing in the world

They also built quite a lot of these things before they finally got any for themselves. Hence why they skipped out on the entire first generation that uses 152mm and 120mm QF guns

[spring briar]

The dynamite cruisers had three guns each but they were fixed forwards seen here in the pictures above and beneath the deck

[shrewd pecan]

seems awkward to aim

[spring briar]

Oh they have some with two 10”

Neat

[spring briar]

Very

[shrewd pecan]

can't imagine they were too good at hitting anything

[chilly osprey]

Yeah. There were also some that had 2x2 203mm

[spring briar]

Closer to russian ACRs

[shrewd pecan]

especially with the guns looking like they lack elevation controls as well

[spring briar]

Mhm

[shrewd pecan]

what were they exactly intended to hit?

[spring briar]

Shore bombardment

The advantage of those guns

Is that the shells arrived silently

No muzzle flash

No gun blast noise

Just the shell hitting

[chilly osprey]

But, basically the Garibaldi-class were sort of an answer to 'we can't afford enough cruisers, nor enough fast battleships, so what if we make it so that our ACRs are able or overwhelm other cruisers while still being faster than any battleships that aren't ours'

Which of course lead to ships with rather limited heavy armament, but enough of a heavy armament and enough armor to still make them able to bully other cruisers.

[spring briar]

So they had a huge psychological effect of the spanish

[spring briar]

Very cute and chubby acr’s

Would buy the 2x2 203mm version

[chilly osprey]

Yeah that's actually also my preferred layout

[shrewd pecan]

how far could those things fling shells?

[spring briar]

Like 2 miles

Maybe a bit further

[shrewd pecan]

suppose that wouldn't be the worse for the time

[spring briar]

[spring briar]

The US had an issue with HE shells at that time (late 1880’s) so they needed a gun that put far less pressure on the shells in order to carry an HE charge

They kinda fixed the issues the moment they got into service so

From 1894 to 1901, the Army purchased and installed several coastal artillery batteries of 15 inch (381 mm) dynamite guns as part of the coast defense modernization program initiated by the Endicott Board. These could throw an explosive projectile from 2,000 to 5,000 yards (1,800 to 4,600 m) depending on the weight of the projectile, from 500 to 50 pounds (227 to 23 kg). Compressed air at 2,500 psi (17 MPa) was supplied by a steam-driven compressor. In addition to the guns and their ammunition, the steam boiler, compressor, and other equipment necessary to operate the guns weighed over 200 tons. Among other locations, three guns were installed as Battery Dynamite at Fort Winfield Scott, near the Presidio of San Francisco. In 1904 the batteries were decommissioned, and the guns dismounted and scrapped. A bolt circle for a 15-inch dynamite gun remains near the southwest tip of Fisher's Island, New York on the former site of Fort H. G. Wright.

[chilly osprey]

And of course after these come the Pisa/San Giorgio-class

[spring briar]

Yeah I definitely prefer the 2x2 203 option

More dynamite gun fun

[maiden citrus]

wave motion gun

[spring briar]

[spiral cedar]

That was a weird thing

Oh they left

or got banned

[manic latch]

what I miss

[spiral cedar]

The angry person here got even angrier in #off-topic , started sending death threats, and then vanished

[manic latch]

Atomic gone nuclear meltdown

I see

[spiral cedar]

Who could have predicted

[shrewd pecan]

?

[manic latch]

The A-10 simp

Gone insane in off topic

Dunno what he did here again

[shrewd pecan]

probably either a attention seeker or a edgy teen

tho I might as well scroll up and see what they said

[spiral cedar]

starts here

@shrewd pecan

[shrewd pecan]

Estonian nationalist

[cinder escarp]

A-10 simps are all insane

https://tenor.com/bF7kp.gif

[spiral cedar]

British, apparently

[shrewd pecan]

👁️ Estonia's most modern aircraft is a L-39 that they have two of how the fuck are they going to operate 100 A-10s

[maiden citrus]

a-10 drones

[strong plank]

Also like

[maiden citrus]

[strong plank]

If they were being sold they would’ve announced the hell out of it

[cinder escarp]

Converting the A-10 to a drone makes a lot of sense but that project went nowhere

[strong plank]

you know, as deterrence

[shrewd pecan]

surprised they didn't go with it

[cinder escarp]

It was actually built and tested

[shrewd pecan]

like that honestly seems like the best way of keeping that SAM bait in service

[manic latch]

refuses to upgrade engines

spends budget to drone version

[shrewd pecan]

I mean if I were to do anything to that thing I'd find a way to fix the pilot work overload issues

and I don't think its possible to smack a WSO in the A-10

[cinder escarp]

Two seat capability was designed in from the start

[shrewd pecan]

god damn

a more sensible A-10

a 2nd brother for eating a Igla with

[cinder escarp]

It was also to carry a really basic radar and IR system

[manic latch]

Say

Is prop more resistant than jet

[frigid karma]

ye, i saw

it was hilarious

i told him to go back to history and fight like a man

[spiral cedar]

Didn't there use to be a list of pinned channel rules

[frigid karma]

i feel like sending death threats is uh

kinda implied to be a dick move

[spiral cedar]

Because I vaguely recall a rule about sourcing

ah, "please attempt to use sources"

Dunno what happens if you don't tho

[frigid karma]

tea bangs your mom

😔

[humble mulch]

Yeeee gets counted as trolling and etc

I got to make rules and I absolutely hated when Manie would do that

[shrewd pecan]

my source? I made it the fuck up

[frigid karma]

so did he get banned or leave of his own will?

because i didn't see a mod bang him

*ban

[ivory ridge]

Bang 😳

[humble mulch]

Berci left right at ban when we went to ban him

Like he got the warn and then left

[shrewd pecan]

what about the A-10 Estonian superpower dude?

[humble mulch]

I believe he just left

[frigid karma]

estonia btfo'd by serbia and romania

https://tenor.com/view/romania-army-gif-25595359

[eternal veldt]

Glad to see both channels going full nuclear over these past hours

[frigid karma]

say silver

have you seen the new cannon stats

[eternal veldt]

No.

[frigid karma]

oh boy

she fires faster than baguette gun

has better range

and deals more damage per individual shot

[spring briar]

[frigid karma]

are u ok richie

[spring briar]

Yes

[frigid karma]

enjoy yourself

[spring briar]

Why?

[covert timber]

Don't search up USS DD 666

[frigid karma]

black

i know

she's a fun ship in wows

[covert timber]

It keeps me up at night knowing that DD 666 is named black

[spiral cedar]

How many 100 ton guns are still around

[spring briar]

1 at Malta
1 at Gibraltar

iirc

[brittle ridge]

I can't believe that Romanians can even steal a spotlight

They are too powerful

[manic latch]

Damn

B-21 will be revealed before H-20 then

Or is it

[junior trench]

Knowing the ChiComs they'll want to know the exact day to just barely preempt it because that's what gives them a stiffie

[tender monolith]

I've been away for a while, anything interesting happen?

[delicate beacon]

I returned

[spring briar]

welcome back

[alpine onyx]

Cannibalism

[spring briar]

[delicate beacon]

Richie and or Jaba.
Can any of you make a writeup about armour at some point.
It's kinda hard for me to keep track of wrought, steel, composite, nickle, chromium, harvey, krupp, cemented, krupp cemented, face hardened, ducal, homgenous, class-A, B and STS.

[spring briar]

I'm pretty sure navweaps can help here

reading the entire armor page

and read this pdf

[delicate beacon]

DMed you the pics I took yday.

Lots of tables from 1908/1910

[spring briar]

[ivory ridge]

https://twitter.com/CiroNappi6/status/1585549549736714241?t=dNazDLd5-1xg_4UCWfr91w&s=19

Ciro Nappi (@CiroNappi6)

The last delivery of M346s for Turkmenistan Air Force has been carried out in the late September 2022.

Twitter · Oct 27, 2022, 8:30 AM

Tfw russian-like camo but it's a m346 and not a yak-130

[tepid mulch]

You've had the single engine YF-17 / Hornet

and the single engine MiG-29

Get ready for the single engine delta wing canard Flanker

[fierce sparrow]

https://youtu.be/eRuB1r1wr5I

[unborn wyvern]

Man history is fun because even thought it's public its still the same

clueless person wanders in
Asks question or makes statement
gets full length essay as an answer or dogpiled by everybody
they leave or stick around saying nothing
regulars continue like nothing happened

[spring briar]

[delicate beacon]

"Stalin granaat"
thanks google.

[strong plank]

browsing Reddit
ww2 meme
scroll down to see comments
guy unironically defending soviet invasion of Poland

[spring briar]

wat

[strong plank]

Reddit moment

[manic latch]

Ain't Poland destined to be invaded before ww2

If Soviets and Germans didn't made a secret deal. Germany would invade completely instead this time

[tough quail]

the implication is more that he's defending that its okay for the soviets to invade poland

[manic latch]

Oh

[fierce sparrow]

. . .

Some guy on reddit

[delicate beacon]

Richie

Why is it called Smokeless Gunpowder Macaroni?

[frigid karma]

Ok

Macaroni in the olden days meant the modern day equivalent of gucci

Hence the phrase “stuck a feather in his cap and called it macaroni” as a mocking term

Not sure if this is relevant

[strong plank]

Wasn’t macaroni a hairstyle used by aristocrats

[frigid karma]

Yes

[spring briar]

because it is extruded in the shape of macaroni pasta

[delicate beacon]

It looked more like spaghetti to me

[spring briar]

like this

well

doesn't really matter

it's done in such shapes to control the burn rate of the propellant

[strong plank]

Is that chalk on the right

[delicate beacon]

It's the forbidden candy.

Yummy Liquorice

[subtle prawn]

https://youtu.be/iRoWMThY61Q

[spring briar]

no
it's most likely silica

or alumina

[delicate beacon]

I need pictures, pictures of spiderman blokjesbuskruit and prismatisch buskruit

[spring briar]

probably alumina

I have pictures

[delicate beacon]

[spring briar]

and prismatic

[strong plank]

coob

[spring briar]

enjoy Sang

[delicate beacon]

[spring briar]

the shell master's job here is done

[frigid karma]

Cant believe they made the cube from AL real

[strong plank]

the all-secondary build battleship

would this make her the world's heaviest-armored Atlanta

[spring briar]

it would make her the world's least heavily armed Wyoming class

dinner time on a french ironclad

[delicate beacon]

Nice hotelroom

[spring briar]

1672

[delicate beacon]

1940

[spring briar]

yes
1940 for both of us

[cinder escarp]

It's most likely "Swedish Additive" - Titanium Dioxide and wax. It was commonly blended into the fill for cartridges or issued in small addition bags for bag guns, and served to massively reduce bore erosion.

The brilliant white coloration is typical of titanium dioxide

[spring briar]

It’s alumina

Extruded alumina catalyst carrier to be exact

I was just using the picture of extruded catalyst supports to give an example of how propellant would be extruded

[manic latch]

Looks edible

[subtle prawn]

https://twitter.com/ronkainen7k15/status/1585620410997313537

Ronkainen (@ronkainen7k15)

As a partner on BAE team in the OMFV program, Elbit America introduces their 50mm UT50 Infantry Fighting Vehicle Turret (IFVT) demonstrator.
The turret includes Iron Fist APS to counter incoming threats and a 360° vision system that provides the crew with greater SA capability.

Likes

159

▶ Play video

Twitter · Oct 27, 2022, 1:12 PM

[spring briar]

Mefo bills were issued to last for six months initially, but with the provision for indefinite ninety-day extensions. To further entice investors, Mefo bills carried an annual interest rate of 4%, which was higher than that of other trade bills at the time.

To make sure that the bills were never exchanged for Reichsmarks, which would lead to inflation, the ninety-day maturation period for the bills kept being extended until the actual maturation period became five years by 1939

@unkempt jungle

mislead investors
fund your war effort in secret
lose the war
???
profit!

[cinder escarp]

https://tenor.com/bEhW8.gif

[spring briar]

Sowwy

[delicate beacon]

Working on book progresses steadily. Urge to throw it into NavWeaps' face is increasing.

[cinder escarp]

But yeah, alumina and TiO2 look very similar

[spring briar]

Mhm

[strong plank]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WarshipPorn/comments/yf3dm4/1915_design_for_battleship_with_10x15_in/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[spring briar]

Ah the ferrati

[ivory ridge]

Ferretti, Not Ferrati

Ferrati is the one obsessed with quads

Ferretti the one the one with the uquints

[spring briar]

[frigid karma]

what about ferrari

[chilly osprey]

Oh nice those are actually high quality

The images, I mean

I have not had the pleasure of driving a Ferrari 😦

[ivory ridge]

[chilly osprey]

Colonel Ferretti

1915

'Surely this is the same guy as the head of MARICOMINAV at the time'

lmao

[chilly osprey]

(to be clear - if we were to look at regular naval ranks, we're looking at a guy who is described as a Captain, and confusing him for someone who, at the time, would have already been a Vice Admiral for two years)

[manic fractal]

us navy food from ww2

it right?

[maiden citrus]

looks good

[rugged jetty]

It looks bloody good for wartime food

[desert agate]

US Navy crews were fed really well

[maiden citrus]

can confirm eat 10 hot dogs a day

also have been to nc and seen the menus

[desert agate]

I recall stories of the RAAF Black Cat pilots, when they called into USN tenders would steal and trade as much steak as they could

often for alcohol

because unlike USN personnel, RAAF crews had alcohol available at home base and since they were flying to and from these tenders regularly they would be able to make deliveries for these crews who often didnt return to port for months on end

[maiden citrus]

I'd like 2 numbers 9s

a number 9 large

[keen zealot]

Object-775 Light Tank prototype

[shrewd pecan]

the many attempts at Soviet missile tanks with pancake turrets

[stiff flicker]

Any have damm good f4u or f2y pic?

[spring briar]

Puyi dead

[mystic wadi]

Nah, but I have a shitty pic of a P-38 and and F-35 mid flight from an airshow

[subtle prawn]

Sir Dudley had a naval career of over half a century. He joined the Royal Navy in 1891 as a cadet. In 1916, he commanded the battleship HMS Colossus at the battle of Jutland during the Great War. He became First Sea Lord in 1939. He presided over one the worst days in Royal Navy history when HMS Prince of Wales and HMS Repulse were sunk by the Japanese Air Force on 10 December 1941. He also ordered the dispersal of Arctic Convoy PQ17 in July 1942. Left without protection, 24 of 35 merchant ships were sunk and 153 men lost. However, under his watch, the Royal Navy has turned the tide on the German U-boats.

At his funeral, his coffin was draped in a Union Flag and carried on a gun carriage in a procession from the Admiralty to Westminster Abbey for the funeral service. All three services were represented. There were 350 seamen, 150 Royal Marines, 100 soldiers and 100 RAF men. Notably, there were 50 women from the Women’s Royal Naval Service (WRNS). Also in the procession were the Prime Minister, Winston Churchill, the Chiefs of staff, and senior officers from the United States, the USSR, China, and other Commonwealth and Allied nations. 

Picture: Admiral of the Fleet Sir Dudley Pound pictured during the war, date unknown. 
Source: IWM, A 20791```

[unborn wyvern]

Reminds me of the time when USS Princeton hit a mine in the gulf war and when HMCS Athabaskan arrived to assist with minesweeping and damage control they passed along two cases of beer because US Ships were (and still are) dry

[solid mango]

not sure how it works so uhhh, guess I'll just ask, are all shell types of the 5" 38 capable of using both reduced and full propellant charges?

[thorny plaza]

[somber knoll]

he lives on in our game as the Pound cat

[manic latch]

LEEEEETS FOCKING GOOOOO

I wonder if it can even reload less than 5 mins

The reload time of the Sturmtiger in War Thunder will be the longest in the game (40 sec. with an aced crew), but sufficient for an active gameplay

Makes sense I guess

[verbal brook]

Any kind of advice for building ship models? What to expect, what I would need? Where to buy a USS Cleveland model? Any kind of images for size comparison?

[humble mulch]

This is the Pit-pitroad 1/700 scale model, they recently made an updated kit in 2018 and here's a general review of it http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/cl/cl-55/700-pr/cleveland.html.

There is a normal kit with just plastic and then another with PE, (photo etch) used to get higher detail like railing cranes etc but isn't something I'd suggest a new peoples to go into

You'd want Hobbyist tools, plastic cutters, exacto knife, and then model glue, like Tamiya model cement (avoid stuff like super glue)

The kits usually come with general paint guides and color codes but it's US naval camo so you should be able to fine the correct colors for all the paints you need. And then of course brushes you want some in many sizes

1/700 is the normal scale for ship models, and are about 8-12 inches for cruisers and stuff like that, compared to 1/350 which is much bigger

[strong plank]

Ok but if this is your first time

I can’t say I recommend 1/700 for a cruiser

[humble mulch]

My first ship model was a Fujimi 1/700 Tone and I enjoyed it a lot, 1/350s tend to also have much higher price points

May want tweezers for sure tho if you are doing 1/700

[strong plank]

Fair, but there are some ones you can get in weird scales

[verbal brook]

Lots of good info already, I appreciate it

[strong plank]

The Arizona I did is like

1/426

Revell moment

[humble mulch]

Oh yeah see thats a company thing

If it's not Japanese, Arizona, or another big name US cv it might be harder to find a good kit

1/700 just has a lot more companies making ships so you can still get most of your stuff in the correct scale

There's also those like micro kits at 1/1200 which are like 5 parts that snap together

My 1/700 Shoho from Fujimi with a bunch of 1/200 planes I 3d printed

[verbal brook]

I wanted something that would require effort and time, but rewarding as well. I've built Gundams before, but never needed to paint them or do anything more.

And I figured why not go a little deeper by trying to build my favorite ship

[strong plank]

l’Arizona

[humble mulch]

Very pretty

[verbal brook]

1/700m

?*

[strong plank]

1/426

Revell is weird

[verbal brook]

Ahhh, it looks nice. I was wanting something around that size, from what I can see in the photo!

Is that too much? How much does something like that cost?

[strong plank]

It was pretty cheap, like $30

[humble mulch]

The Cleveland model I mentioned is like $50

About the same as Gundam kits I think?

[strong plank]

If you get something like a battleship or carrier in 1/700 scale it’ll be around the same size

I’ve got a 1/700 Essex back home that I need to paint next break

Plus a 1/350 Alaska

That one’s gonna be fun

[humble mulch]

My 1/700 Tone, Suzuki, and Jean Bart

I have a 1/700 Howe but I need more fucking 20mm guns for her so she's just sitting on my shelf

And I have a 1/350 Yamashio and Shimakaze I have waiting

[strong plank]

I wanna do something either French or Italian after my current backlog

Maybe a Dunkerque

[verbal brook]

I've been reading the Cleveland link you sent me. Trying to accurately judge the sizes is... boggling me atm though

[humble mulch]

Oh it's probably smaller then my tone

About 10" I think?

[strong plank]

I got my dad a model that he hasn’t started yet

[verbal brook]

Very good information, I appreciate it. And thank you for the link! When I start building it, I'll ask for more help (if needed)

[strong plank]

1/700 Akagi, pre-refit

[humble mulch]

Oh that's gonna look good

The funny triple deck

Adorable

I manly do tanks and army figures now tho

[strong plank]

My backlog(minus the F-117, I’ve done that already)

[humble mulch]

Currently painting some DAK troops

I have Yorktown, Soryu, Hiryu, and then Nagato for my 1/700 backlog

Also have a 1/72 Lancaster and 1/48 Hiryu Bomber plane

Bro photo etch is built different

[strong plank]

The Alaska has photo etch, thank god it’s 1/350

[humble mulch]

I plan on getting full photo etch kits for my 1/350 girls but they ain't cheap

Might save them for when I have kids and drag them into the hobby

Very nice

[desert agate]

Beer is sold on US warships but it's only on special occasions and it's only like 1 can

[unborn wyvern]

Yeah they have drinks when they do steel beach stuff. It was more of a goodwill gesture

[manic latch]

https://theaviationgeekclub.com/low-thrust-not-enough-thrust-engines-that-dont-generate-enough-thrust-former-a-10-pilot-explains-why-the-engines-are-the-biggest-weakness-of-the-warthog/amp/

[tough quail]

I never could have guessed

[frigid karma]

TFW a crop duster replaces you

[desert agate]

source: quora

[frigid karma]

they put guns in spoon 3

bottom text

[spiral cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586217571053731850/1035689865540546651/unknown.png

[tribal mortar]

Who dat

[spiral cedar]

Fubukis

I believe of the Ayanami subclass

[delicate beacon]

Needs to be visited by Dutch flying boats.

[humble mulch]

Almost done with my Dak, will send photos soon

[strong plank]

your what now

[spiral cedar]

Afrika Korps

[strong plank]

ah

definitely didn't think he meant a daki

[humble mulch]

German Afrika Korps, or Dak was Germanys expeditionary force to North Africa. One funny thing to note is their tropical green unifrom, which doesn't at all match the terrain of North Africa, was designed by the Tropical Institute of the University of Hamburg, and would fade fast light brown or tan color more commonly seen. Their uniforms also included very little leather, due to concerns of it cracking, and was replaced by cotton fabrics. This uniform was well liked and had shorts tho they weren't allowed to be worn near the Frontline, and was later accepted into use in Southern Europe and used until the end of the war.

The men I painted have early Olive green unifroms as they are ment to represent reinforcement troops.

[spiral cedar]

Oo, nice terrain

[manic latch]

Oh damn

Would be cool camo for PUMA in WT

[frigid karma]

Regal, tea doesn’t make dakis

He is the daki

[manic latch]

Designer: Should we cover the iron cross?

Designer 2: Nah

[frigid karma]

[ivory ridge]

Yeah man go and hide your only IFF source that will work out well in urban enviroment

trust

[eternal veldt]

As Jaba said, they're type II Fubukis/Ayanamis. However, a major identifying point is the number painted on the hull - 20 - which implies these ships are of Destroyer Division 20(Desdiv 20). As these numbers were removed at the onset of WW2, this is a prewar photo of 3 members of either Yugiri, Sagiri, Asagiri, and Amagiri.

[tribal mortar]

Sub class?

[eternal veldt]

There are three sub classes of the Fubuki class, otherwise known as "Special Type Destroyers".

Type I consists of ships up to Isonami, with Uranami being slightly modified (second silhouette). Type II is Ayanami and Type III is Akatsuki.

[tribal mortar]

I see

[eternal veldt]

Uranami is something like a mix between Fubuki and Ayanami.

Engine cowlings of Type II, but bridge and Type 3 Model A armament as Type I.

[strong plank]

whatever you do, don't look up the name of the USAF effort to capture nazi aircraft tech after the war

[ivory ridge]

[eternal veldt]

Eh? Lusty?

Lusty just means strong and healthy, you're thinking of lustful

[strong plank]

[rugged jetty]

Operation paperclip?

[somber knoll]

Paperclip is a bit more general stuff.

[manic latch]

@humble mulch I realized smh

Romania may have the longest hit by destroyer if Wikipedia and claim is correct

[humble mulch]

[manic latch]

I'm sure you know the engagement of Tirpitz (German 280mm battery), Regia Maria and Marasti vs Kharkov and Moskva

Regia and Marasi opened fire from 14 miles (23km) at 04.12. Kharkov was hit in 04.20

[humble mulch]

Yeah that's the only large naval engagement there

[manic latch]

So if Regia did hit Kharkov. That's like +20km hit

[humble mulch]

Italian engineering at its finest

[manic latch]

Not bad for 120mm ye

Not bad at all

Or it could be the German 280mm there

Oh well

[humble mulch]

German gun would have been firing from much longer

[manic latch]

Ye

[delicate beacon]

20km is quite long range for a 12cm no

[humble mulch]

And from what I know they didn't have the best range finders even for the 20s

[delicate beacon]

12cm No 10 only has 20,5km range

[manic latch]

Well. In the end Kharkov survived. But Moskva got hit by Romanian mine

[humble mulch]

Get got

And I'm not sure what 120mm they had

Or if they produced different shells for them

[manic latch]

Undef or Phoenix may know

Regele Ferdinand class

Fun fact

They were the most modern Axis ships ever in black sea during ww2

[humble mulch]

Not surprised about this

But they are 120mm Bofors

So yeah I think they'd be making there own shells so idk what the actual range they could get would get with them

They did have the Siemens fire control system and range finders but I'd have to check 3rd Axis 4th Ally to see if it gives any info on the model they got

[delicate beacon]

The prewar 120mm Bofors data I got only has 19,5km range

[humble mulch]

Also fun thing about Regina Maria, she participated in the fleet coronation review for King George VI in 1937, and is named after the Queen of Romania

[delicate beacon]

For both 120mm L50 24kg 900mps and L46 20,5kg 800mps

Latter is probably an error

[humble mulch]

Interesting, I'll check my book in a bit to see if it has anything on it

So according to 3rd Axis 4th Ally the dds got the hit

When the Germany battery opened fire the soviets disengaged and then went into the minefield

Tho they don't give any further details on the guns or shells used

Regia Maria, strongest Axis ship in the Black Sea

[manic latch]

[manic latch]

Some reason Kommuna decided just to watch.

[humble mulch]

Sadly I can't read Romanian nor do I have any other naval sources for them at the moment and I don't wanna look at forums

[ivory ridge]

Regina Maria

not regia

it means Queen mary

[manic latch]

Grammar Mussolini

[ivory ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/sunakook-cat-pooping-mad-kitten-gif-26396234

[humble mulch]

Yeah only messed up on the second one I think

[spring briar]

[humble mulch]

[manic latch]

Me when NP girl stern

[spring briar]

So true

[humble mulch]

@manic latch found something interesting from an author on Hungarian ww2 books on the Romanian ww2 forum

At 03:58, two ships were spotted by destroyer REGINA MARIA, but they were believed to be friendly destroyers at Midia. The two ships heading south-west at high speed opened fire. The first two salvos fell in the waters of Constanta harbor, framing minelayer CAROL (three shells in starboard stern, two shells in port stern). The Soviet destroyers fired 350 shells of 130-mm, at distances up to 24000 meters (over three salvos per minute). It was aimed the Palas railroad station, where an ammunition train has been hit and several fuel tanks were ignited.

At 03:59 AM destroyer MARASTI turned north and armed the 120-mm guns. At 04:12 AM destroyer MARASTI opened fire, starting from 14800 meters, closing to 11400 meters. The first salvo caused the windows of navigation cabin to shatter. Destroyer REGINA MARIA also opened fire.

At 04:15 AM the Soviet destroyers launched smoke screens and headed open sea.

At 04:19 AM destroyer MARASTI ceased fire at a distance of 16000 meters after having fired 19 shells. At 04:22 AM destroyer REGINA MARIA ceased fire at a distance of 18000 meters, after having fired 23 shells.

At 04:22 AM “Tirpitz” coastal battery opened fire, one shot followed after one minute by three salvos of three shots each, firing 53 shells.

The Soviet destroyer MOSKVA suffered a great explosion and broke in two parts, sinking between 04:23 and 04:25. The cause of explosion was the collision with a mine, because the established location of the Soviet destroyer at the moment of the explosion was exactly on the mine barrage in Tuzla area. The mine explosion ignited the ammunition store at the stern.

HARKOV continued the escaping route. A nearby hit damaged the tubes of two steam tanks, causing his speed to drop to 6 knots. Two mechanics (Petr Grebennikov and Petr Kairov), dressed in asbestus suits, emerged for repairs, and at 07:14 the ship recovered its 26 knots.

The supporting task force also approached the Romanian coast. A mine exploded in the shield of SOOBRAZITELNII, causing light damage to the bow of cruiser VOROSHILOV. The cruiser turned away after sending the destroyers SOOBRAZITELNII and SMISHLENII to provide AA support for the retreating HARKOV.```

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Those ranges are consistent with what Vincent O'Hara gives in his book on the KM's surface actions (which also covers this action).

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what's the book called

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The German Fleet at War 1939-1945

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Soob gonna Soob

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https://youtu.be/hJcDVbH5q3k

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https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1586390138975711237

U.S. Naval Institute (@NavalInstitute)

In 1978, the WWII-era 3"/50 caliber gun on the USCGC Cherokee was in desperate need of a new trigger but parts were scarce. The gunner's mate happened to spot guns with the rare triggers on exhibit outside of a museum, so he got permission to take the parts. #SeaStorySaturday

Twitter · Oct 29, 2022, 4:10 PM

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https://twitter.com/get_tanked/status/1585172666373222401

𝘛𝘈𝘕𝘒𝘚 ⌖ (@get_tanked)

Leclerc Ares Prototype
MBT - France

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Twitter · Oct 26, 2022, 7:33 AM

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elp

I'm trying to find an image I'm sure to have seen and now I'm turning over the entire forum

Ooooh

Accidentally found the time and place of the SEM-30 trials

there you were.

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FIJENOORD

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Looks like the museum doesn’t really care about the WWII weapons it has in his museum, he just like oh well, it’s old anyway, so take it kid.

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its spare parts for a in service at the time weapon system that aren't needed for display purposes

🤨 I don't think a missing trigger is gonna impact the value of a 3 inch gun on display

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Depends if its a working piece or not.
But doubt that you actually do much with working naval artillery as a museum.

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I mean its different if its a functional piece

tho most museums aren't working with that type of thing

its also rather routine for museum aircraft to be stripped of potentially useful spare parts when requested

again as long as the thing remains mostly in tact for display purposes it doesn't really matter

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Just wait until you hear about what happened to USS Alabama when they needed spare parts for the Iowa Class Refit

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It was 1978, at that point that gun was still in service in several navies

It's the equivalent of a nation taking like

Parts from a museum t72

If needed why not, there are still plenty around

The gun was given because it wasn't old, not because it was

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Oh, looks like I have mistaken it.

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Oh, so it was reserved in the museum?

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Probably, but if any navy on that time needs the gun, they are gonna see that there is a missing trigger, they are gonna be like I just bought a piece of weapon that I can’t even use, looks like I have to put back the trigger myself

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Is that a AA weapon on the back?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_offshore_patrol_vessel_Paolo_Thaon_di_Revel

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Leonardo 76/62 Sovraponte

3" dual purpose gun

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also uh

the museum would probably tell them they gave the trigger away

not really that big of a deal

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military use comes before museum use

the same thing happened with the Canadians around the gulf war

there was a bunch of 40mm bofors guns they grabbed from storage sometimes in museums to put aboard ships

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Oh it’s a AA weapon, that’s big to be honest.

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Oh yeah.

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The museum lost a deal lol

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?

why would they give a shit about a trigger

it's not like they stole the barrel away

if anything they can write an additional little blurb that said "the trigger of this gun was proudly donated by the museum for service in the coast guard"

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they do that all the time

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To get some ripoff deals from kind people I guess?

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also

https://tenor.com/view/discord-reply-discord-reply-off-discord-reply-gif-22150762

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I see that comin

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you've pinged me like 10 times

please stop

[shy sequoia]

Oh sorry, didn’t mean to, just a habit to reply which message is said.

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also not sure why you keep pushing this point

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we used a manually operated 40mm bofors on some of our modern ships until 2014, there is stories of the navy coming by museums and taking parts

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how is this a ripoff

the trigger is not a particularly large part of the gun

most visitors probably won't notice

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True, maybe let’s put this topic aside then.

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i mean it just seems like a weird thing to stir outrage about

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Yeah.

How do you get roles anyway?

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no clue I'm just here for the boats

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40mm Bofors trigger mechanism is pretty much enclosed in a box you'd never realize it's missing unless you're disassembling the gun
or trying to fire it for that matter...

Unless by trigger they meant the whole pedal linkages

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https://youtu.be/l5arYlXSVQA

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Lol

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Check pins in #bot-spam

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Ok, thank you!

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Did you know that 2 ships of Alaska-class Large cruiser was intended to be Retrofitted to CBG (Guided-Missile Large cruiser), but that Kai project was cancelled due to how expensive Alaska-class to be build is