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tough quail
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just saying they both have ups and downs

spring briar
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he kinda made up for it

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kinda

tough quail
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at the same time the US shit itself with tanks they had fantastic artillery doctrine and while the UK shat themselves with tanks they were shitting out the best automatic weapons in the west

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spring briar
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listen

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germany started their WAR economy

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in 1935

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the western allies only in 1939

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the us only in 42

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the soviets only in 41

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it matters

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tough quail
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remember that the only reason barbarossa worked at all was because romania and finland carried germany on their backs by

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well

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having their countries exist

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brens and later stens when everyone realized FUCK

spring briar
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(sweden being a bitch until 1942)

tough quail
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SMGS ARE EXPENSIVE

spring briar
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(never forgive sweden)

tough quail
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also yeah i know brens are czech originally but the brits did the work to simplify and mass produce the mk2, they get credit for that

spring briar
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Czechoslovak ZGB 33
my beloved

manic latch
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All this desire and projects for 155mm gun ruined by Zumwalt nightmare Sadge

spring briar
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(also you should really say Czechoslovak because they were one country back then and I like being factual)

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(only fact can destroy wehrbs!)

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(fact and HIMARS)

tough quail
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being easy to make is an incredible positive

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thompsons are not ideal service weapons from top to bottom

strong plank
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the skeletonized smg

spring briar
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M3 grease gun > thompson

tough quail
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and grease guns, while being overall a better design than a sten

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is cursed with fuckawful .45ACP

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you could say that's a copout to prop up the british, but the british made the correct call of

spring briar
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.45 ACP didn't have enough stopping power to stop the great depression

tough quail
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using an actually good pistol round

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spring briar
tough quail
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russia was born depressed

strong plank
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Yeah was about to say

tough quail
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you would probably know more about it than me tbh

strong plank
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“Wait this is unusual for y’all?”

spring briar
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(it's a great pistol round)

manic latch
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Russia: Great Depression? More like Monday

tough quail
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excellente

spring briar
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Qwerty

tough quail
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theres one way he can direct this that's correct

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lets see if he lands it

frigid karma
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you think .45 ACP wanted to stop the depression

tough quail
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he didnt

frigid karma
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where'd you think thompson sold his stock after the great war

spring briar
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but it does have enough stopping power to stop my depression

frigid karma
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potentially

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anyways

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so at 1919

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thompson needs to sell some SMGs

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but stinky wilson wanted people to stop fighting

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frigid karma
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the solution? mafias

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and thompson planned the great depression to sell more thompsons and consequently, 45 acp

strong plank
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Man now I I want to go shooting over winter break

frigid karma
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thank you for coming to my ted talk

tough quail
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the correct answer is that the great depression was solved by .45ACP getting buried in nazi skulls

spring briar
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.45-70 govt

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vs

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💀

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who win

strong plank
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Despite being an American I’ve never fired a 1911 before, I really ought to fix that

frigid karma
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i haven't either

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but i live in california

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so i've got an excuse

spring briar
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you will find it to be somewhere between the excitement of finding a penny and getting your kneecaps removed

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frigid karma
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18

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krem

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but

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never had the opportunity

tough quail
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i do plan on getting a 1911 at some point as much as i shit on .45

strong plank
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California laws are like

tough quail
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because something being bad doesnt stop it from being the shit

manic latch
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Wait

You can buy a gun but can't drink Alcohol????

spring briar
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get a 1911 variant in 357 magnum

frigid karma
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If 9mm is better why does 45>9

spring briar
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DO IT

tough quail
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based

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strong plank
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My dad picked up a 1911 at the local gun show this summer

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wait I never posted the sagger picture here did I

frigid karma
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its 45 acp

tough quail
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im mad i didnt get the goofy texas 1911 they did for the fundraiser

spring briar
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it's .45 ACP

frigid karma
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the what

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ok fine .45

tough quail
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literally everyone alive calls it point 45

manic latch
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Desert Eagle fans when their arm shatters and their ear bleed while missing the target for 300 meter

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strong plank
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POV you are at an American gun show

frigid karma
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i always heard it called a forty-five acp Thinkpitz

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frigid karma
tough quail
spring briar
frigid karma
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you just keep it around for the bling

strong plank
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The documentation was legit too

manic latch
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Desert Eagles are like bulldogs

tough quail
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im surprised kremlin didnt pick up on that actually

manic latch
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Except it's more safe

tough quail
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disappoint

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frigid karma
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i mean no

tough quail
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pps' deserve love too pensive_cowboy

frigid karma
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bulldogs are bred killing machines

spring briar
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pps-43?

tough quail
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ye

spring briar
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better than ppsh-41

frigid karma
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they literally latch onto anything and will not let go until you claw their brains out

spring briar
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much lighter

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very easy to construct

tough quail
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they're generally better yeah

frigid karma
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desert eagle is like a chihuahua

spring briar
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very reliable

frigid karma
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looks scary but will probably die to anything bigger

strong plank
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I also saw the fabled AR-57

tough quail
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i just like ppshes a little more

spring briar
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lower cyclic rate so lower ammo consumption

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tough quail
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ye

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no except like

strong plank
spring briar
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lower consumption = more bullets for everyone

frigid karma
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a pistol

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is meant to kill people

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while keeping yourself safe

spring briar
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pps-43 probably was the best submachine gun in WW2 in all honesty

frigid karma
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a deagle is just Ehhssex at that

tough quail
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it is, absolutely

spring briar
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for its intended role ofc

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if only T-34 could be that little bit more like the PPS

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it would've been glorious

tough quail
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out of the ones in actual large scale production i'd probably say it goes like

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uhhh

frigid karma
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easier to cut corners with a tank than with a gun

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spring briar
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it's also a tank

frigid karma
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you know

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i'm surprised the dp-27 isn't more common

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why isn't it one of those "iconic" ww2 guns

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you know

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mp40, lewis, garand, ppsh, etc.

spring briar
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me after learning about Pavlov's house in Stalingrad

frigid karma
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it just shows up quite rarely in FPS games

spring briar
strong plank
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Anyway I want to go to a local range next time I’m on break

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be fun to shoot the SA85m my dad’s got

spring briar
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SA85
do you mean FAL

tough quail
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pps-43 > ppsh-41 > the finnish one whose name escapes me > ppd > 9mm grease gun > mp40 > sten > grease gun > thompson

with the mas-38 and sterling, and italian SMGs being a ? because i dont quite know as much about them

tough quail
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slap owen in with the ppsh probably

strong plank
frigid karma
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suomi kp-31

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hey horse

spring briar
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the mas-38 and italian smg were both very good and cherished by both sides

frigid karma
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where do you rank type 100

spring briar
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type 100 is japanese so bottom tier

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tough quail
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yeah it's probably at the bottom

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as far as im aware that thing is uh

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really really janky

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but i havent looked super deep into it

spring briar
frigid karma
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weird that it kicks ass in bfv then

spring briar
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in fact I know it isn't real

frigid karma
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along with this thing

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funny czech guns always win out

tough quail
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bfv doesnt come with mechanical faults

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that said i COULD be wrong

spring briar
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remember than Hungarian "smg" that was basically an AR and completely destroyed whoever got hit by it?

frigid karma
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i do know there was a meme going around

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showing a supposed brazilian cartel .50 cal smg

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very real

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# spring briar I heavily doubt this claim

"Per OKW loss reports[3], Heer losses around Paris (was declared an 'open city' on June 10th, taken on June 14th, 1940) could be roughly estimated as ~1000-2000. It could be plausible, that Heer lost around 1000 in attempts to storm Pavlov's house"

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So big if

spring briar
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oh

manic latch
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Not impossible but big if

spring briar
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just the push on paris

manic latch
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Ye

spring briar
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which was already completely open and undefended

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k

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spring briar
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but that's like saying the germans lost more men on 1 day in stalingrad than they lost trying to take belgium

tough quail
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i cant believe its quicker to go through an empty field than the most horrific urban combat slog in the history of warfare

spring briar
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6th army be like

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dies

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humble mulch
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I made a model of Pavlov’s house if you wanna see

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spring briar
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show

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NOW

humble mulch
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I doubt you could actually lose that many men to it

strong plank
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what the dogs doing

tough quail
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oh yeah ive seen it already

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its pretty good

spring briar
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Romanians getting forgotten for their contribution to stalingrad

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I'm sure tea knows of it too

humble mulch
tough quail
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didnt they hilariously team up the exact same german and romanian armies for the defense of, well, romania

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to get goobed the exact same way

frigid karma
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Depends on what they meant by storming the house

spring briar
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noice

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Like

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The block around the house maybe

humble mulch
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Some of my Romanians with my buddies German and Soviet models

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Well

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German command was

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Pretty fucking stupid

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So no they meant literally go inside
And clear it

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spring briar
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wehraboos disregarding Axis allies when listing casualty numbers
all the fucking time

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I hate it

humble mulch
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Same

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Also

spring briar
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like 200k romanians were at stalingrad alone iirc

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or was it 400k

humble mulch
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Romanian had a million men in the army

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manic latch
humble mulch
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3 times

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And they lost about 450k men iirc in the whole operation Uranus

spring briar
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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humble mulch
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That's KIA/POW/ missing

spring briar
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Fall Blau

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more like

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Fail blau

humble mulch
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The biggest meme tho

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Which I love

frigid karma
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What were the casualty rates of Manila again?

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5 and 20 k

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Ok

humble mulch
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Is the lascar Pocket

frigid karma
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The sky high death rate was from the civilians

humble mulch
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The 40k man encriclement

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Who was told to stay

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Most got captured and only like 200 made it out iirc

manic latch
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Who was the nation that Italy ended up killing thousands of and nobody remembers it some reason

humble mulch
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But Lascar

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The Commander

manic latch
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Oh yeah

humble mulch
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Became the Commander of the Tuldar Divsion

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The Soviet Romanian division

spring briar
humble mulch
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The dude was so pissed at the Germans

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He threw away his honor

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And led them when no other Romanian officer woukd

spring briar
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Latvians fighting Latvians in Latvia

tough quail
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based

spring briar
humble mulch
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Thankfully Romanian would swap sides and thr Tuldar division became the central division in the new Romanian 4th army

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So they never had to fight against their country men

manic latch
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Vichy France never fought with Free France right?

spring briar
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they did

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multiple times

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remember Bougainville vs savorgnan de brazza

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Oh

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that's two ships of the same class

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bougainville was vichy
savorgnan de brazza was free french

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savorgnan de brazza won

tough quail
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petain destroyed

spring briar
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Savorgnan de Brazza shot down a German bomber in March and was then transferred to the Indian Ocean where she rescued the survivors of a torpedoed merchant ship in July. 
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Soviets testing Sonar and Torpedos with Trawlers Prayge

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She would be perfect amogus tho ngl

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During the Battle of Libreville on 9 November, she sank her sister ship, Bougainville. The latter had opened fire first, but with one-third of her crew deployed as a landing party on the Ogooué River, her rate of fire was vastly inferior to that of Savorgnan de Brazza and the Free French ship set Bougainville on fire and sank her in twenty minutes with heavy loss of life.[19]
spring briar
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bougainville even had a valid reason why she sank
bougainville class based

manic latch
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Bofors 120mm

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Godspeed Lad. Godspeed

spring briar
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rapid fire towed artillery...

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tough quail
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supreme dunking

spring briar
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Europe was defended

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tough quail
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AA is just artillery for the sky

frigid karma
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Yes that’s what aaa means

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Congrats

spring briar
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@tough quail my brother of the cross I beg of you to watch this

spring briar
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tfw European casualties high

humble mulch
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Spain will be ours again Richy

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And so will France

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Hey Richy

humble mulch
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How’s the suez this time of year

spring briar
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I will never forgive egypt, britain and the US

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NEVER

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Wasn’t Kruschev the one who threatened to glass Europe for the canal

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Britain was right there huffing the finest imperial copium with you that they’ll be relevant

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“It’s - it’s ok, the Northumbria will show them”

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fucking cracks

tough quail
spring briar
ivory ridge
spring briar
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oh no

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anyways

frigid karma
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Eh, we nabbed the saudis

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Good enough at the time

spring briar
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the Suez crisis played out as a medieval feudal war tbh

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in terms of tf is going on

frigid karma
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Not really?

spring briar
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yes really

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Medieval feudal wars are ten billion parties fucking each other’s wives

spring briar
frigid karma
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Suez was just a “hey you wanna fuck over the old colonials”

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“Da”

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🇫🇷 🤝 🇬🇧

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the sun will rise on us again brother

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oh well
the US never participated in the crusades

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that's only for a select few nations

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damn now I wanna see how US knights would look like

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I love it

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probably not a surprise that france, britain and germany are the best teams usually

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but the US design is neat

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The Anti-Lebanon Mountains (Arabic: جبال لبنان الشرقية, romanized: Jibāl Lubnān ash-Sharqiyyah, lit. 'Eastern Mountains of Lebanon'; Lebanese Arabic: جبال الشرقية, Jbel esh-Shar'iyyeh, "Eastern Mountains") are a southwest–northeast-trending mountain range that forms most of the border between Syria and Lebanon. The border is largely defined alon...

ivory ridge
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Brb renaming the alps

spring briar
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Anti-Tirol mountains

frigid karma
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Hey

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Is it our fault literally no one feels like paying 2 percent

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Besides Greece

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Based on actual knights?

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The police

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Thugs with weaponry and few consequences

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Meant to protect property not people

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Seems close enough to me

humble mulch
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Can be summoned up under a higher state or federal power

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humble mulch
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Lines up quite well

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Usually have body armor

delicate beacon
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Supplied with military grade equipment

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Pussies out when actual threat happens

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They’re literally knights jfc

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Going outside tomorrow UniHappy

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I shall find them secrets UniFlox

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delicate beacon
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No, I haven't committed war crimes yet.

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Just Amsterdam.

ivory ridge
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open Twitter post about the new turkish helicopter
spam of comments "iTs tUrKiYe nOt tUrKey"

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manic latch
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I do sense irony tho

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They don't like Turkey word since

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It's a bird

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But they call India "hindistan"

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manic latch
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Since Hindi is turkey

unborn wyvern
ivory ridge
spring briar
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Ismail ahmad kanabal

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Let us traverse to the mosque together

delicate beacon
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spring briar
strong plank
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It’s an M45/M50 quad mount (usually uses 50cals) that someone’s stuck 4 M134 miniguns to

cinder escarp
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I felt like blessing you all with a cursed image

spring briar
rugged jetty
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Interesting an M60A2 turret on a M48

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Kinda similar to what the ROCA did with the CM12

tough quail
cinder escarp
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As far as monolithic steel that M48 starship is about as good as its possible to get in terms of armor design, in terms of frontal protection per ton.

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It's just a shame it has a gun launcher instead of any of the other guns they did the math on for the starship mount

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(They also actually installed a 105mm M68 in the mounting once)

tough quail
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i love he, horrible gun launcher or no

cinder escarp
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They did the math on installing the XM150 (from MBT-70), 105mm M68, the Bri'ish 120mm L11, and the hilarious T123E6.

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Installing the M68 required honestly little work

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And as we know, it worked just fine - they tested it in Sheridan. (The mount & gun are shared between starship and sheridan)

cinder escarp
tough quail
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why is everything marred with disappointment and pain

cinder escarp
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I mean, the M60 was also to have the T123E6 as well which is a hilarious gonne

subtle prawn
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#OTD in 1944, the U.S. Navy defeated the massive Japanese Imperial Navy's Center Force at the Battle off Samar despite the battleship Yamato alone displacing more long tons than the combined 6 carrier escorts, 3 destroyers and 4 destroyer escorts of task force Taffy 3.

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#OTD in 1944, U.S. Navy aircraft sank the Zuikaku, the last surviving Japanese carrier that had participated in the attack on Pearl Harbor. With the Zuikaku listing heavily to port just before rolling over and sinking, the crew salutes the Japanese naval ensign as it is lowered.

maiden citrus
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samar day

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I’ll get the Turkey

unborn wyvern
cinder escarp
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Yeah, that's a M48 hulled starshit

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ok so

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these are traditional halloween costumes in wales

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imagine pow or rf wearing this

pliant bay
strong plank
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wait wait that makes sense

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is that what ancient magus bride is based off of

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maybe

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you basically take a horse skull

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decorate it have someone hold it on a stick

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then hide the person behind a cloak so it looks a horse skull abomination is chasing you

subtle prawn
somber knoll
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now

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NJerseyStare Vs NagatoStare

frigid karma
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I mean if you’re given the choice between engaging enemy bb with bb or just skullfucking them with plane spam

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The 2nd option saves more lives, even if it’s less flashy

somber knoll
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true.

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and besides, he will have more carriers to sink more center force ship.

keen zealot
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Object 327, T-72 with massive 152mm Cannon

spring briar
stiff mauve
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I must go.
My people books need me

ivory ridge
spring briar
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the audio quality is so good

past fiber
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France bad

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Germany Stronk

desert agate
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Number of world wars won by France: 2
Number of world wars won by Germany: 0

spring briar
eternal veldt
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Germany so strong, it gets partitioned into 4 zones

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and a wall built in between Berlin

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get fucked

spring briar
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just ignore him guys

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kek

eternal veldt
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but bashing wehrbs is fun

spring briar
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true

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but he's a special kind of wehrb

eternal veldt
spring briar
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do you know what "the new order" is in hoi4?

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hoi4

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I've heard enough

remote monolith
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eternal veldt
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oi riche

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you've heard of Britain stealing names

unborn wyvern
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mhm

eternal veldt
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French built, not captured, Britbong name

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Murmberland

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HMS Brunswick was a 74-gun third rate ship-of-the-line of the Royal Navy, launched on 30 April 1790 at Deptford. She was first commissioned in the following month under Sir Hyde Parker for the Spanish Armament but was not called into action. When the Russian Armament was resolved without conflict in August 1791, Brunswick took up service as a gu...

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Still get captured in the end I guess MurmWat

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Murmswick

eternal veldt
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2 on 1, not too uncommon sadly

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Ardent vs 2 Angry dutchmen MurmWat

spring briar
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I mean the name

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Brunswick

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we fought them a bunch in the 7 years war

eternal veldt
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thought you were about to talk about Vengeur

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There's a couple Royal Oaks as well - one famously got burnt by De Ruyter

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another Northumberland

spring briar
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excuse me what

exotic lark
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What

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what

alpine onyx
eternal veldt
delicate beacon
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Info get

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Also a headache

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Also found the info about Dutch armour you wanted earlier Richie

manic latch
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@tough quail Marshal Ustinov's visit to US. 1991 PepeShy

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Flag ceremony by US sailors

tough quail
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swell

delicate beacon
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Oh yeah

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the most poggers information

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Anton Bussemaker suggested buying the New York and Texas Battleships from the USN.

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@🌭

manic latch
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Me: Who?

Check internet

Dutch

delicate beacon
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He's the reason we know Ship a day Helfrich. Bussemaker went on a very short rampage on the Japanese.

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Then got sunk by a mine.

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Because the mine detection equipment was removed under British command cirSlain

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queen bison
spring briar
delicate beacon
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I am uploading 2gb to my drive right now.

spring briar
delicate beacon
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Chroommolybdeenstaal van Krupp

spring briar
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so homogeneous

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could still be KC though

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reee

delicate beacon
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I still only have surface level understanding of armourproduction so dont mind me

spring briar
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chromium steel probably implies homogeneous armor steel

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also

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want to see the weirdest .50 cal bullet ever?

delicate beacon
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Is it a miniature 38cm shell? Glowow

spring briar
delicate beacon
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Sir

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That's a harpoon for whaling

spring briar
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no

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it was meant to be fired from a barrel with 4 large rifled slits

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god knows why

strong plank
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for uh

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what purpose

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like what was it meant to kill

spring briar
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no clue

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engine blocks?

spring briar
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ok so

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France produced Paixhan guns and Russia was quick to invest

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putting them on ships of the line

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with funny results

manic latch
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Noice

spring briar
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basically the Paixhan gun uses fuzed projectiles with a sabot

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the sabot increases range and accuracy

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spring briar
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and the fuze ignites when the gun is fired
the projectile then inbeds itself in the hull of a wooden ship (or penetrates completely)

tough quail
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spicy

spring briar
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and then after a short time it goes off

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and explodes causing massive splinter damage

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and fires

tough quail
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that's cool as hell

spring briar
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what I'm insinuating

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is that there was a short period from 1840-1865 where europe could have completely shifted the balance of power

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creating a global catastrophe

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the Paixhan later evolved into the US Dahlgren gun

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used in the late US civil war

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and beyond

delicate beacon
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Almost there cirBlech

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Last book now

spring briar
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yee

delicate beacon
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Which is the biggest one WarZoom

spring briar
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testing guns as part of a public exhibition

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bad idea

tough quail
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YIKES

manic latch
spring briar
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tally ho

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Woolwich gun

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broken woolwich gun

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(HMS Thunderer in question)

spiral cedar
spring briar
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the US was still very young at this stage

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so it's understandable that such accidents happened

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@tough quail

tough quail
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my beloved

spring briar
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my guy looking suave

spring briar
delicate beacon
spring briar
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hi sang

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you're the only one left

delicate beacon
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I can't believe everyone is dead gone TorricelliSad

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Hmm

spring briar
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I wonder where Maka is

delicate beacon
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So DZP 28cms were... actually 28cm

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Just like the 24cms

spring briar
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wat

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not 28.3

delicate beacon
spring briar
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you're shitting me

delicate beacon
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Am afraid not

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Were the Achterladers actually this too

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Yup

spiral cedar
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What be those formulae

spring briar
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I see the de marre formula

spiral cedar
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dM being deMarre sure

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KG Thinkpitz

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Krupp something?

spring briar
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d.M = decimeter

spiral cedar
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I see

spring briar
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K.G. is kg

delicate beacon
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K.G. is Kutveel Gram

spiral cedar
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They measure caliber in decimeters

spring briar
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seemingly

delicate beacon
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I think I have a few formulae around

spring briar
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probably to keep the exponents in the formula nice and simple

delicate beacon
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Delpher storing

Op dit ogenblik ondervinden we technische problemen waardoor het zoeken trager of niet werkt. We proberen dit zo snel mogelijk op te lossen.

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REEEEE

spring briar
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f

spring briar
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clearly we need more empirical formulas

delicate beacon
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*ding*

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That's the sound of the microwave google folder being done

spring briar
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oh mon dieu

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differential equations

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I can use the method of lines for this one luckily

delicate beacon
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Artevelde

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(not in the pic, but in text)

spring briar
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ok this friggin ballistics book is actually a lesson on differential calculus

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NOOOOO

delicate beacon
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Yeah I remember picking up a ballistic book a month ago

frigid karma
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Jaba cackling

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Learn to math Richy

delicate beacon
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after skimming through I was like "wait... this is just calculus I've had this before"

frigid karma
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I took ballistics fascinating subject

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Things go up

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Things go down

spiral cedar
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I took ballistics in school. Fascinating subject. Math goes in, math comes out.

spring briar
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you know it's bad when the book has a chapter called "new finding as Gavres, 1844"

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and it has this advanced math in it

manic latch
spiral cedar
# spring briar you know it's bad when the book has a chapter called "new finding as Gavres, 184...
spring briar
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left table: speed of projectile
right table: penetration (in meters)

spiral cedar
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Two data points

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More than enough to extrapolate anything that moves

spring briar
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the penetration is in wood

spiral cedar
frigid karma
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I’m gonna graaaaaaaph

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Oh, in wood

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I was wondering what penned 1.3m of armor

spring briar
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1844 falls into the era of early french usage of the Paixhan guns

frigid karma
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With 478m/s

spring briar
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just sayin

spiral cedar
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Something something Newton penetration formula

spring briar
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as you can see

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the paixhan gun projectile didn't penetrate all the way
but had an explosive charge

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which would detonate the shell and destroy the wood it was lodged in

spiral cedar
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Ah, so holing limit basically

spring briar
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causing huge structural damage and splinter fragmentation

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yes

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ofc, ships were not 2m thick

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usually only around 1 meter

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but as they would be shooting from a longer distance or at an angle they might still get lodged in

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but often just penetrate and detonate inside like a modern shell

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The Russians had used these paixhan guns against the ottomans at sinop to devestating effect

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and a while after the crimea war (britain, france and the ottomans vs russia) broke out
France knew well that Russia had been the first after themselves to implement the paixhan
so they needed something that would protect their ships
hence france built those floating ironclad batteries

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because the paixhan still used round projectiles with a sabot

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the iron armor would completely stop the shells and shatter them

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thus winning the alliance a great victory at Kinburn

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and from this point onwards the big armor vs gun race was really started

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pallister shot would easily go through the wrought iron armor
so compound armor was made
etc

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you know the drill

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the race is still going on

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but the shell is of course winning as it should

delicate beacon
spring briar
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maybe I was too harsh on you

spring briar
#
A little known outcome from WWI was the development of chemotherapy for cancer treatment. The use of poison gases demonstrated that synthetic molecules killed normal cells. It took some time, but eventually molecules were produced that could kill cancer cells more than normal cells to the benefit of patients with cancer. There were many side effects related to these treatments, but in today’s world, specificity for the malignant cells is increasing marvelously.
maiden citrus
spring briar
strong plank
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guess what y'all

spring briar
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What’s a B-21

strong plank
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are you joking or serious

maiden citrus
#

it's the dragon ball fighter z of B

frigid karma
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🐝

delicate beacon
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Probably another vitamin

manic latch
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But new tech smh

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Likely will replace all US bombers in future

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But if B-52 outlived B-2

frigid karma
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First of all it stated it’s meant to complement

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And secondly a shit ton of it is classified

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So its true capabilities can’t be simply described as a “smaller b-2 bomber”

manic latch
strong plank
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it's basically the next US long range strategic bomber

manic latch
frigid karma
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B-21 may replace them, but I wouldn’t count on it

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Not when we still have stuff like a-10s lying around

strong plank
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the B-52 will probably still be around

frigid karma
strong plank
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given its role is different

frigid karma
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And b-52 will last just as long as the 1911 or m2

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With how many bombs it drops

manic latch
strong plank
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the B-52's good for when you've already got air superiority

manic latch
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Ain't that all bombers tho

strong plank
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bc it can carry a shit ton

manic latch
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Oh that way

strong plank
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whereas the B-21's being designed around performing long range strikes into contested airspace

static delta
strong plank
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and will also probably take the Spirit's place in the nuclear triad

static delta
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B-52 are unreliable as hell

frigid karma
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A-10 is not kept around for any reason besides smoothbrains in congress

manic latch
glass trail
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a10 just cus brrrt

frigid karma
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B-52 is kept around because it has the best raw bombing capabilities

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A-10 is a fucking piece of shit

static delta
frigid karma
#

that dies to any form of aa in the late 20th century

static delta
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Engine issues

frigid karma
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B-52 is also a big ugly fat fucker

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but it can at least do its job well

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A-10 needs the pilot

strong plank
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anyway the Pentagon's already planning on re-engining its B-52 fleet so they're not going anywhere

frigid karma
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to use his own fucking eyes to aim a massive 30mm death ray

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can't go wrong

static delta
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The a-10 did it's job

frigid karma
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at what

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killing british soldiers?

glass trail
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a10 is about the equivalent of "frick everything in this general direction"

strong plank
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if it's job were killing friendly british troops I'd agree with you

static delta
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It never killed British

frigid karma
strong plank
#

CAP

frigid karma
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because

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oh god

static delta
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And it's about to be used for estonia

frigid karma
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we have a-10 simps

glass trail
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turns out your troops can be in that general direction

strong plank
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first of all

static delta
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With the Russia conflict

strong plank
frigid karma
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don't you go there

glass trail
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a10 radar is a set of binoculars

static delta
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It's been proven

frigid karma
#

it's against server rules, first of all

maiden citrus
strong plank
# static delta It never killed British

The 190th Fighter Squadron, Blues and Royals friendly fire incident was a friendly fire incident involving two United States Air Force (USAF) Air National Guard 190th Fighter Squadron A-10, and vehicles from the United Kingdom's D Squadron, The Blues and Royals of the Household Cavalry, and took place on 28 March 2003 during the invasion of Iraq...

static delta
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I was just saying it's going to the estonia airforce doesn't mean it could be part of the russian thing

maiden citrus
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it's always so stupid to see counterwank go so far that it's the unreasonable side

glass trail
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"never ask the blues and royals what happened in march 2003"

static delta
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Plus it's due to the survivability rate of the a-10 its self is the reason why Estonia brought 100 of them

strong plank
#

I'm gonna call cap

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what's your source

static delta
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An actual Estonia ex military person?

frigid karma
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along with civlian deaths

glass trail
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the terms used in that phrase gave me brain damage

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"ex military person"

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💀

static delta
#

Yeah, he left the military

maiden citrus
spring briar
glass trail
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what if, estonian veteran

frigid karma
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that doesn't change the fact that it's the highest

static delta
#

He's not a vet-

frigid karma
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and there's a problem with that

maiden citrus
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something will always be the highest

static delta
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He's like what on his 20s or something

maiden citrus
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that's how lists work

spring briar
#

@delicate beacon 1672

frigid karma
#

i know how lists work

spring briar
maiden citrus
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the question is is the number unreasonable

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and the answer is no

frigid karma
static delta
#

That sounds kinda stupid

frigid karma
#

Since 2001, the A-10 has been involved in four friendly fire incidents that killed 10 U.S. troops. The next highest is the B-1B bomber, which killed five soldiers last year in one incident. Friendly fire deaths are exceptionally rare. There have been 45 total friendly fire incidents out of about 140,000 missions flown by the Air Force, Navy and Marines.

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when a single plane is 10% of all incidents

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that's not good

ivory ridge
#

open chat
see 2 new names
immediately see the world russia

great

static delta
#

Still Estonia is buying them for survivability

glass trail
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well, excluding vietnam war, when friendly fire incidents were super common among battalions and their commanding officers

maiden citrus
#

turns out the plane often closest to the front has the most accidents

solid mango
static delta
#

If you all think it's shit, think about the titanium used on that thing

frigid karma
#

oh dear lord

strong plank
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yeah I'm seeing zero sources saying estonia's buying any so you got lied to dude

glass trail
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and think about the way its designed

frigid karma
#

ThE tItaNiUm bAtHtUb

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i need alcohol

glass trail
#

the a10 is quite literally a gun with wings

maiden citrus
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this is like saying microwaves are too dangerous because two people put their head in one

static delta
#

Yk fuck you all

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I'm starting to get real pissed off

glass trail
solid mango
frigid karma
manic latch
#

Sanest A-10 fan

strong plank
#

makes outrageous claim
gets called out for it
"fuck you all"

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Estonia's not buying A10s

frigid karma
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nor is the a-10 a good platform

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it's

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shit

ivory ridge
strong plank
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first of all A10 production lines have been closed for years

frigid karma
#

should i post the lazerpig a10 vid for him?

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or is he too far gone

static delta
frigid karma
#

what

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why

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why would this year not have posts on estonian a-10s

solid mango
frigid karma
#

fair

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no posts on the sales because [current event]?
then there should be even more reason to publicize estonia getting american weapons systems

dapper parcel
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Is there even any new A10 airframe still built anywhere in the last, like, 30 years?

frigid karma
#

lol no

strong plank
#

no

frigid karma
#

because the air force knows its dogwater

strong plank
#

the last ones built were in the mid 1980s

manic latch
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Didn't only US build A-10s

tough quail
#

oh god why are we talking about A-10s

strong plank
#

horse

frigid karma
strong plank
#

this is the one time I will ask this

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help us

ivory ridge
#

Produced 1972–1984

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close to 40

tough quail
#

what's the context here

maiden citrus
#

someone claims a country is buying a-10s

strong plank
#

this guy thinks estonia is buying 100 A10s because of its survivability

manic latch
tough quail
#

....

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what

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lol

frigid karma
solid mango
#

Then denies the existence of friendly fires

strong plank
#

my brother in christ

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you can literally find the audio for the incident

tough quail
#

that warrior wasnt real

manic latch
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British never existed itswhatitis

static delta
#

I'm fuckin British

glass trail
#

yeah what are the british

static delta
#

Idiot

frigid karma
#

Ok and

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What does that have to do with your point

manic latch
static delta
#

OKAY YK WHAT FUCK OFF

solid mango
ivory ridge
#

"Im british so i know all of the history of every british person that ever existed"

glass trail
#

makes sense

frigid karma
#

Or him

tough quail
#

the british group consciousness

frigid karma
#

I don’t discriminate

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No

ivory ridge
#

I knew it the brits were secretely an hivemind

frigid karma
#

They copied from us Chinese

strong plank
#

I want to post the link to the subtitled audio recording but I'm not sure if it's appropriate

maiden citrus
frigid karma
#

Only a hivemind could do that

glass trail
#

the queen is dead though

manic latch
#

Cmon England eats mic

tough quail
#

anyway the A-10 is just the rare case of the US making a bad plane, theres no real need for a huge debate

static delta
glass trail
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im not

frigid karma
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We bloody will

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And we already have

glass trail
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i merely stated a historical fact

ivory ridge
tough quail
#

it was outdated for CAS when it went into service in a peer vs peer scenario but it was generally fine enough for the third world garbage it was bombing so it stayed in service forever anyway because the cold war didnt go hot

frigid karma
#

The first meme of her death was like 2 minutes after

tough quail
frigid karma
#

The a10 is just popularized because it’s loud, slow and big

strong plank
#

two scimitars and 2 spartans from what I'm reading

maiden citrus
#

the world has moved on to so much automation that the a-10 is not worth it as a platform

frigid karma
#

Thus perfect for movies and media

strong plank
#

the A10's also popular bc of how it dives in to attack

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thus the troops see what's helping them

frigid karma
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And its presence in the Middle East has made servicemen defend it even when it’s not the best option

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The old

ivory ridge
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the a10 is popular because brrr

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that's it

solid mango
#

Yes

frigid karma
#

“My Springfield served me faithfully in ww1, why do I need a garand”

tough quail
#

its an interesting bit of engineering with a hilarious gun that just didnt really work out

frigid karma
#

Hmm

tough quail
#

it's russian peer is a bit better because it's not as hyper specialized

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so it gets a little more use

frigid karma
#

Do we have an equivalent of sprocket or dreadnoughts

frigid karma
#

But like

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For planes

static delta
#

How do I leave clubs, I'm getting out of this fucking hell hole

tough quail
maiden citrus
#

opinions on if it were good for its time or the purpose it was designed for I'll fight

if it is good now, uh, it's very outdated

frigid karma
glass trail
#

💀

frigid karma
solid mango
#

Lol BacheLaugh

dapper parcel
#

The concept of CAS itself is quite questionable due to the massive increase of SHORAD threat
anywhere other than COIN

glass trail
#

leaves the server

frigid karma
#

Have you just been lurking

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For the last 3 minutes?

strong plank
#

my guy you brought this on yourself

static delta
#

I'm very close to really cursing my head off rn

manic latch
frigid karma
#

Dude

glass trail
#

no youre atomic sniper

frigid karma
#

Horse here

glass trail
#

youre also wrong

tough quail
#

what up

frigid karma
#

He has 13.7% of the servers fuck uses

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You have a while to go

glass trail
#

why 13.7

maiden citrus
#

horse posting fuck 10,000 times in bot spam inbetween the lines to go higher

glass trail
#

is that arbitrary or did you actually go and calculate it

spring briar
#

Russian 12” canister shot

tough quail
#

he's overshooting it

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it was 2.7% last i checked

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which is still uh

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a lot

tough quail
manic latch
spring briar
#

Better than A-10

glass trail
solid mango
#

Yes

glass trail
#

we like grapes

tough quail
#

based airborne 12" gun

strong plank
#

anyway what were we talking about before

spring briar
#

Can also mow down coastal infantry

ivory ridge
strong plank
#

oh yeah

spring briar
#

And decembrists

glass trail
#

LMAO

manic latch
strong plank
#

so yeah anyway

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the B-52's gonna be around for a while yet

maiden citrus
frigid karma
#

Until they find a bigger plane

tough quail
#

anyway fuck the A-10 talk about good planes instead

strong plank
#

it's not like its really facing challenges in its intended role anyway

glass trail
#

that looks weird tbh

maiden citrus
#

that f-14 looks deformed

#

is it ok

tough quail
#

yes

strong plank
#

that tomcat's been stung by a bee

glass trail
#

f14 has two tails no?

spring briar
#

IJN Itsukushima

glass trail
#

why the single tail